Comparing WAR for Matt Kemp
Many people have expressed disappointment with Matt Kemp this season. They say he heavily regressed defensively and offensively, they even might claim that he's at replacement level and there have been calls for his replacement both in and out of the organization. A lot of it I believe is fueled by fangraphs and UZR which helps feed into the perception bias that Kemp has regressed to a replacement level player in 2010. I decided to check out two systems that use WAR to see if there agreement or disagreement on Kemp.
Fangraphs:
2006: -0.4
2007: 1.7
2008: 3.2
2009: 5.1
2010: 0.5
B-Ref(WAR uses baseballprojection.com and Sean Smith as their source)
2006: -0.6
2007: 1.3
2008: 3.0
2009: 5.8
2010: 2.0
The biggest difference is that Sean Smith’s system still sees Kemp’s defense as a positive, ranking him +2 for this year compared that to fangraphs who thinks that Kemp is the worst CF in the majors this year at -15.3 UZR.
One system ranks Kemp has having an average year, while the other thinks he’s near replacement level. Just goes to shows you the disagreements between systems, and putting too much stock into one set of numbers.
I personally am inclined to Sean Smith’s system since it doesn’t show the heavy defensive regression that fangraphs and UZR shows. Nobody goes from average to the worst fielder in the league with no tangible explanation.
Obviously Matt Kemp isn't having as good of a year in 2009. But he's still pretty damn valuable in the sense that he's been an average player for the Dodgers, and in essence not replaceable by any normal means.
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To me, the real way to do it is to use all three advanced metrics, regress them, take a three year sample and then apply it to continuously to linking years.
It’s the only way WAR is somewhat relevant, because otherwise, you’re just taking a snapshot that, by their own admission, isn’t worth much, because the defensive portion of the metric isn’t even 1/2 stabilized yet.
Kemp is not a Gold Glove center fielder, and he’s not above average this year like he was last year, but he’s below average at worst overall, if you use the method I proposed.
All in all though, while I used to defend these defensive metrics to the death, if you feel yourself a talent evaluator, I could go with a scout that sees him everyday over metrics at this point, that’s how little faith I have in them after seeing the charting errors Colin Wyers pointed out.
Are the metrics still better than some random douchecanoe saying “omg but Loney’s defense rules” or “omg but Manny’s defense suks”, absolutely. But would I quibble if you said Kemp was an above average defender if he was actually a below average defender by the numbers?
Not anymore.
Tripon, you bored?
Nice to see all the fanposts, especially since they are not as jaded as your comments. Instead of cringing when I see your name I now look forward to what you have to say.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Don't worry, Phil still has me to rain on his parade.
by Chad Moriyama on Aug 1, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
You never should have fled from your roots
your old web site would be more applicable now then ever.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I wouldn’t have if it didn’t put a glass ceiling on my site. :o
by Chad Moriyama on Aug 2, 2010 6:22 AM PDT up reply actions
You know what's really crazy? Jamie Moyer is at $82 million in salary.
Shows what happened if you get chance after chance.

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