Dodger Offense Continues Its Summer Vacation
by Eric Stephen on Aug 1, 2010 7:54 PM PDT
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Back in 1995, I remember watching Tim Harris of the 49ers on NFL Films (at least I think it was Tim Harris; maybe it was Ken Norton, Jr.) laugh about beating an improved Rams team for the umpteenth time in a row, saying into the camera, "Same old sorry ass Rams." Well, that's how I feel about the Dodgers right now.
No matter how many new players are in the lineup, the offense still sucks. Ryan Theriot and his .320 on-base percentage made his Dodger debut tonight, batting second, naturally. He fit right in with the rest of the lineup, who scored no runs tonight, losing to the Giants 2-0 to complete a series sweep and crippling their already-thin playoff chances.
Clayton Kershaw pitched well, allowing only two runs in seven innings in his first start since last Sunday, after serving his five game suspension for hitting Aaron Rowand last month. The only runs Kershaw gave up tonight also had to do with Rowand. With two outs in the sixth inning of a scoreless tie, and Pat Burrell on second base, Kershaw fell behind Rowand 2-0. Joe Torre elected to intentionally walk Rowand, the man with a .296 on-base percentage, to face Edgar Renteria. The shortstop made them pay by crushing a ball to center field for a sun triple, one that easily scored both runners.
Notes
- Since the All-Star break, the Dodgers have scored 36 runs in 17 games, an average of 2.12 runs per game. They have scored two or less runs in 12 of those 17 games.
- Octavio Dotel made his Dodger debut as well tonight, pitching a scoreless eighth inning.
- Matt Cain got his first ever win against the Dodgers in his career, in his 15th start against them
- Reed Johnson began his rehab assignment with Inland Empire tonight, collecting a double in three at-bats as the designated hitter and leadoff man. The 66ers are off Monday, but Johnson will play one more game with them, on Tuesday.
- The Dodgers open a four game series with San Diego at home tomorrow night, with Hiroki Kuroda facing Clayton Richard. Hopefully Andre Ethier will be back.
WP - Matt Cain (9-8): 7 2/3 IP, 4 hits, 1 walk, 7 strikeouts
LP - Clayton Kershaw (10-6): 7 IP, 6 hits, 2 runs, 4 walks (3 intentional), 6 strikeouts
Sv - Brian Wilson (31): 1 IP, 1 walk, 2 strikeouts
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we are not that bad though
we are too good for such a low draft pick…
this sucks
ok is there any chance we make the play offs realistically?
Realistically? No.
Miraculously? Barely.
People don't think it be like this, but it do.
So glad
this team was a buyer at the deadline.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Aug 1, 2010 7:57 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Only positive is
Manny will sail straight through waivers.
The Dodges can and should get something for him.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
Owings was a former top 100 prospect, as of 2007 I think
So at least it wasn’t just some nobody.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
mccourts hope someone claims him
so thy dont have to pay the rest of his contract
Well if the Kenny Williams pulls a Kenny Willams 2009 like with Alex Rios, do you think we just let him go and have them pay the rest of his salary?
I like Cetera.
Eight back. 4th place in division.
6 1/2 back. 5th place in wild card.
Playing for draft pick!
Given the available budget and the current nucleus, how long will it take this team to rebuild?
People don't think it be like this, but it do.
Considering we are better off than most at 2 SP spots, CF, RF, 1B, SS, and 3 strong late innings RP…probably not as long as you’d think. We may even be more in line with a reload than a rebuild.
I like Cetera.
Looking it another way:
They need to upgrade at 3B, 2B, C, and one OF spot. Plus 3 starting pitchers are free agents at the end of the year, right?
That’s seven solid players to replace in a single winter?
People don't think it be like this, but it do.
But who would you upgrade with at C? Russ has been struggling but the number of good and available catchers is so small it’s ridiculous. Carlos Santana would have been nice, but he’s gone and not an option. The only real issue I have with Russ is how much money he makes. His production is on par with (sadly) what all but the top catchers are doing. If you take out the McCanns, Mauers, and Poseys, there really isn’t a better option. Unles syou want to sign John Buck, which, have fun with that.
I like Cetera.
I would be willing to go with two platoon catchers, and use the $4-5 extra million to upgrade in other areas.
1B?
"UC Davis??? hahahahaha" - Aaron Rodgers
by atomsareenough on Aug 1, 2010 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions
if kershaw had any heart
We would have won today. Bills must have stolen it
by nolander on Aug 1, 2010 8:01 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
All I can think is
“Not like this. Not like this.”
by Eric Stephen on Aug 1, 2010 8:01 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
that you liked??
so you dont like them anymore?
Johnson ends his rehab Tuesday, so I would have to think if he’s OK after that, he could be activated Wednesday.
Manny is working out in AZ through tomorrow, but will likely have to do a rehab, so we are talking at least a week for him.
So when Reed comes back
They will option Paul to AAA.
When Manny comes back, they DFA GA?
We already have a light hitting backup LH OFer now in Pods.
Seem right?
I think they will DFA Ausmus and play with one catcher so they can keep GA. :)
I have to think if they keep Manny (and I think they will) they will have to make a decision on GA once Manny is back.
But watch, someone like Belliard will get hurt, and they will put him on the DL, and GA slides into September when rosters expand.
I think what disappoints me the most is not that the season will likely end without a playoff appearance, its that we had an opportunity to cut some dead weight and maybe bring in a few interesting young players, but instead we brought in more veterans. Now we are forced to play out the season with the likes of Pods, Theriot, and GA. Ugh!
Traded the young guys for Torre’s old guys
by 68elcamino427 on Aug 1, 2010 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I think I agree with this.
I’m disappointed that the year will end without a playoff appearance, but mostly because of my now-famous and tired bearishness on the next few years. Last year’s team won 91 games, but it was with Manny suspended for fifty. Sure, the Dodgers lost Wolf and O-Dog — they’d be a little worse — but high-80s wins and a contending team was not an unreasonable expectation. It hasn’t worked out that way, and that’s a bitter disappointment to me.
But you’re right — even more disappointing is the team’s failure to correctly gauge where they were at the deadline, the chances of a postseason visit, and the challenges for the future. I realize that the prospects that were given up were role players and not tomorrow’s next wave of great Dodger talent, but they shouldn’t have been giving up ANYONE.
That’s why I was advocating standing pat. They were still sorta-kinda in it two days ago. If they’d won yesterday and today — two winnable games — things would look a lot better. So it was hard to advocate an everything-must-go sale. By standing pat, they could forge a middle ground between trying for today and protecting tomorrow.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
I think it's your fault with all your bearish on 2011 talk
The players obvious read that and just gave up. Thanks a lot!
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Last year's team
Won 95 games. And they had the best run differential in the NL.
by bhsportsguy on Aug 1, 2010 8:56 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
My Giants fan friend
was nice enough to forward me a text that I sent her about 3 weeks ago saying that the Dodgers would be on tv in october while the Giants watched from home…and now I’m even more sad :(
She said she had to go through 6 years of watching losers play before now, and I’m really afraid of getting into the cycle that the Giants did for much of the 2000s. The Dodgers need an owner who can spend money. They need to draft overslot players in later rounds who no one goes after because of price, much like the Redsox do. This will jumpstart the farm system I bet.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
I know this is the part where I get to say
Unless you want to go through some really bad years, the chances of getting an impact draft pick, especially an offensive player are really slim.
by bhsportsguy on Aug 1, 2010 8:51 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
The way to do it is to overpay in later rounds for picks who won't sign for slot
That’s the only way to jump start this system without having to go through a few years in a row with top 10 picks.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
thats a good point, I just think the poor bastard will fight tooth and nail to hang on to this team
and that wont help us in the draft any time soon
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
just came back from a restaurant
jesus christ. I am already starting to look forward to next year. Hopefully by then our offense can score runs.
Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?
It's like I'm a hungry dog and this comment is a leg of lamb
I just wanna scream NEXT YEAR WILL BE EVEN WORSE over and over again until the gin I’m drinking foams at my mouth.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
You never know
This team could surprise you.
by bhsportsguy on Aug 1, 2010 8:48 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Of course
That’s baseball.
Also this: maybe it’s just a down year for Kemp on his tireless and relentless march toward becoming a superstar. That alone would go a long, long way toward making me look foolish.
Dear Matt: I love looking foolish, so don’t be afraid to put me in my place. Crow is my favorite dish.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
postgame recap template for you eric
(dodger sp) went (x) strong innings and deserved better, as (mediocre veteran) came through the big hit in the late innings, which was all the offense the (opponent team name) would need on this night, as the impotent dodger lineup was able to muster only (integer less than 6) hits and (0 or 1) runs.
the dodgers dropped their (nth in a row and/or nth out of x) to fall further out of the race. incredibly, ned colletti said after the game that he would not hesitate to (throw away useful player x for replacement level veteran “help”) to aid the team’s “playoff push.”
joe torre (describe inexplicable managerial move here), though it did not matter on this night when all he had available were two and maybe three players who deserve to be in a major league starting lineup.
blake dewitt had three hits for the cubs and ryan theriot looks like a retarded hobbit.
the dodgers will be back in action —-sday, and you should no longer give a fuck.
by lchristmas on Aug 1, 2010 8:43 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 8 recs
That makes it one if he most impressive things of all time
by nolander on Aug 1, 2010 9:31 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Just two, refresh and you will see green
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Went into this season with the best outfield in baseball, and the best bullpen in baseball.
If you had told me that going into August we’d have the most solid 1-5 pitching staff in baseball, and arguably the best SS in baseball, I’d have not believed you, but if I did I would assume we’d have won close to 70 games right now.
But we currently have a below average outfield and bullpen, and absolutely no offense to speak of outside of Furcal. Really sad to see all these great starts by Kershaw and Bills wasted.
Sad, sad, sad time to be a Dodger fan. MUST win this upcoming series to have any hope at all. A sweep could put us right back into it, but will probably just be a tease.
A long time forgotten … The dreams … they just fell … by the road
by 68elcamino427 on Aug 1, 2010 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions
we still have yet to score more than 5 runs in a game since the All Star break. With the Padres coming to town, that 5+ run drought is likely to continue.
Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?
Or we could explode and score 30 runs. Baseball has a real funny sense of humor.
But, we’re still done. : )
Right now baseball seems to like laughing at the Dodgers’ misery a whole lot. I don’t think it’s very funny.
"UC Davis??? hahahahaha" - Aaron Rodgers
by atomsareenough on Aug 1, 2010 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions
And yet I remember early in the season it seemed we could score 7 or 8 runs and still not feel secure because our pitching was so bad. It’s a funny game. And by funny I mean cruel.
"A baseball game is nothing but a great slow contraption for getting you to pay attention to the cadence of a summer day."
did a caller just say they wanted juan pierre in CF?
Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?
Juan Pierre is leading off for your N.L Central leading White Sox.
And having the worst year of his career. Which is really impressive.
In all seroiusness
I was hoping that he’d have his usual .300/200 hits/100 runs season. He had a verrrrry outside chance at 3,000 hits, and if he were to make it, that would be the most hilarious thing ever, watching the Juan Pierre HOF debate.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
Ha. Right, I remember the JP 3,000 hit race was your raison d’être
by Michael White on Aug 1, 2010 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions
and i remember telling you he wouldn't even get to 2500 and I stand by that.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Oh sure
I realized that he wasn’t actually going to do it. Tiny chance.
But come on! How can you not root for such a thing!
The Omar Moreno of this blog
All I can think is
this is what it was like to be a Giants fan the past 4 years. I definitely took it for granted, and now it hurts.
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 1, 2010 9:20 PM PDT reply actions
Goddammit!
(Irrational post with lots of cussing, including rant about not having an ace, a real closer, or a guy with enough “heart” to carry a team)
wonder what attendance will be like for the next couple games..
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Aug 1, 2010 9:22 PM PDT reply actions
indeed
the awful mccourt press and the stench of ‘loser’ on this team is a potent brew..
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Aug 1, 2010 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions
The home weekend dates in Sept will not be good….with the team out of it for the 1st time in a long time..and competing against college football.
For the Dodgers to fix the impending collapse (meaning 2011 – 2013)….need 1 of these things to happen.
#1. McCourts take payroll up to 120 mils again.
or
#2. Dodgers need a new GM.
When all you need to do is add a few veterans and spend money—> Ned’s fine.
If you need to completely rebuild on a budget, be creative, move salary and get prospects —→ I dont think he’s the guy to do it.
I disagree.
Matt Kemp could hit better than he did in 2009 and play good defense. That would be a good start.
Andre Ethier could have fewer slumpy months and more great months and not be such a suck against lefties.
James Loney could finally become Mark Grace.
Russell Martin could…
My point here is that what’s really disappointing about this season is that it’s the Dodger core that’s let the team down. That was Phil’s argument when I was bearish early on — the team had too much talent to be all that sucky next year. If they can play up to that talent level, then I’ll be wrong and Phil will be right.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
I think in a discussion earlier this year
I said all we had to do in order for the Dodgers to win the NL West was to have players perform up to potential. I disagree with that now. I don’t think Martin is a reasonable MLB hitter, Loney is only acceptable if every other position player is getting on base or crushing the ball, Ethier is exceptional only when he is batting in front of a guy who is legitimately feared, and Kemp is a guy with tons of talent but an inability to exploit that talent on a regular basis.
Take that for what it is worth. I have had an exceptional amount of alcohol and am slowly realizing that I have a number of tickets to essentially meaningless games in which a number of players I could give less than a shit about are playing.
Even in your inebriated state
what you’re getting at is a valid point: what is the true level of the core. At the beginning of this year, we looked for improvements from Kemp and Loney, bounce back from Martin, and, hopefully, more of the same from Ethier.
If it turns out that none of the core is anything special…. that is a bitter pill to swallow.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
The weird thing is we were crushing the ball at the beginning…so what happened?
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 1, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Once again I’ll say it, money doesn’t matter nearly as much as what you do with it. There are more teams with lower payrolls and better records than higher payrolls and better records.
"A baseball game is nothing but a great slow contraption for getting you to pay attention to the cadence of a summer day."
Instead of watching the Dodger bats flail
we went to dinner/movie. Red Robin/Salt, excellent choices. My wife loves Angelina Jolie as much as I do. Did not expect another shut out, thought we’d score one run since Pod is in the lineup and Ned said he’d be a huge upgrade over Paul.
Eric is going to earn his money these next two months. Easy writing about a good team, not so much writing about a piece of crap offense. We are the Giants that we made fun of in April. Nothing hurts worse then that realization.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I still like their starting five more than ours. The painful part is admitting that their offense is better than ours.
If you had told me in April
that Sandoval was going to suck and yet the Giants were going to kick our offense’s ass I’d said you are fucking crazy. Huff is a pretty good argument about how strong the AL East pitching is compared to the NL West. Really makes me wonder what any of the so called NL West pitchers would do if they pitched in the AL East and faced those offenses on a regular basis.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Dodgers streaks of 5 runs or fewer, last 20 years
1992: 23 games (52 runs, 2.26/gm, 6-17), Aug 12 to Sep 5
1992: 22 games (48 runs, 2.18/gm, 6-16), Sep 19 to Apr 11, 1993
2003: 20 games (64 runs, 3.20/gm, 12-8), May 25 to Jun 17
2003: 17 games (50 runs, 2.94/gm, 6-11), Apr 1 to Apr 19
2010: 17 games (36 runs, 2.12/gm, 5-12), current streak
Will this team end with a better record than the 2003 team?
by Michael White on Aug 1, 2010 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Nah
I expect they get hot, but it will be to little to late. No way they end up below .500.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Over, big Sept run when Sands joins the team:)
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Sept callups don't start the arb clock, right?
If so, I heartily endorse calling up Sands for a cup of coffee and taste of the show.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
Then why in the name of everything holy
would we start the arb clock on the one minor league hitter who at this point in 2010 looks like he might be able to be a special player?
The Omar Moreno of this blog
Kind of funny we'd even be worried
about the Arb clock on Sands. As much fun as we’ve had with his season, he’s still not a top 50 prospect. At least not in anyone’s eyes but our own.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Yup not even on the radar in spring 2008.
http://www.baseballhq.com/members/minors/08sf.shtml
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
one good year
and then career derailed by heart disease by age 26?
seriously, one of the most frustrating things about this year is that panda is sucking ass, the derosa (and sanchez to a lesser extent) signing was a massive failure, as anyone could have predicted, and those damn bleeps are STILL winning – damn aubrey huff and andres torres…
by lchristmas on Aug 1, 2010 10:43 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
In terms of run differential...
Dodgers play 16 games vs teams they are better than.
They play 41 games vs teams they are worse than.
It’ll be an accomplishment to finish above .500
Piazza was a Sept callup
Sands could be that guy and then destroy in 2011. That is my story and I’m sticking to it.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Broxton has some work to do to get back on the Fab list
his July has been nothing to write home about. If we are talking about current production anyway.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
2011
I hate to be Debbie Downer but I’m with Humma, next year does not look good. Mostly because we’re going to have the same offense as we have now. I hope I’m wrong but I see this as our opening day lineup next year:
LF Podsednik
SS Furcal
CF Kemp
RF Ethier
1B Loney
3B Blake
2B Theriot
C Martin
Yeah I think we’re stuck with this nightmare. Also, since he mostly gets a pass, way too many people defend Loney around here. Sub .800 OPS 1B are something the Pirates do, and his defense isn’t THAT great. I think our big off season moves will be re-signing Padilla and Kuroda to deals that are a year too long (IE 3 year deals for both that make them deadweight in 2013).
Looking at where we could upgrade next year it would be replacing Manny, but looks like Podsednik is everything Ned dreams about at night, and he will he all too happy to repeat the Juan Pierre mistake for a lot less money.
I think Paul is much more likely to be starting than Pods. I hope Theriot isn’t here but I didn’t want DeWitt starting next year either. And third base is a bigger problem than first.
"A baseball game is nothing but a great slow contraption for getting you to pay attention to the cadence of a summer day."
If Paul is more likely to start than Podsednick, then that trade becomes particularly stupid. Why would you trade for someone who is not as good as what you already have? Third base may indeed be a bigger problem than first, but I would suggest LF is an even bigger problem than that. And second may have also risen above that considering we will be starting an at-best replacement level player for 3-4 times the money we had invested in the position.
Rotoworld fail
Casey Blake struck out all three times he was up Sunday night in the loss to the Giants.
Blake has turned into a major liability against right-handers these last couple of months, and one wonders if the Dodgers might not be better off giving Ronnie Belliard a look at third. Blake simply isn’t getting the job done.
Have they SEEN Belliard’s numbers lately?
Well really
Have they SEEN (insert Dodger here) numbers lately?
I don't judge any player
on a part time basis but that said, Belliard is not an answer for Blake against RHP. We had a left handed 3rd baseman once….
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
3 for four today with a double and an RBI
by 68elcamino427 on Aug 1, 2010 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm tempted to call you an asshole...
…but that would be misdirected anger.
Ha Ha
we all have plenty of that going right now.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
After August 1
2010: 54-51, 4th place, 6.5 games out of playoff spot (8 out of division)
2009: 64-40, 1st place, 7 games up
2008: 54-55, 2nd place, 3 games out of playoff spot (and division)
2007: 58-49, 2nd place, leading wild card by 0.5 game (1 game out of division)
2006: 51-55, tied for 3rd place, 4 games out of playoff spot (and division)
2005: 47-58, 3rd place, 4 games out of playoff spot (and division)
2004: 61-43, 1st place, 3.5 games up
2003: 54-54, tied for 3rd place, 7 games out of a playoff spot (10.5 out of division)
Haven’t been this far out after August 1 since 2003.
Didn't we go on a tear in 2003 at one point before falling short?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
That was the last Fox year
and 2003 was the year I paid the least attention to the team. Just remember the great bullpen, anemic offense.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Dodgers were still in it...
I remember a couple of crushing losses.
Lost a couple of back-back extra inning games vs the Marlins (who won the WS that year).
Also, who can forget Paul Quantrill vs Steve Finley?
Waitaminute
2006: 51-55, tied for 3rd place, 4 games out of playoff spot (and division)
….and they tied the Padres, 88-74, and made the playoffs as the wild card.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
Blake
He is a bigger problem than Loney but he’s also guaranteed his money next year and that contract isn’t going anywhere unless we do a contract swap.
Still debating
10:25 Dinner For Schmucks, or sleep at a reasonable hour?
My pillow is awfully inviting.
Joeyjoe
Your manic hatred of Loney’s game is irrational. He may not be Pujols and hit a bunch of home runs, but he is the least of the Dodgers’ problems. He is a good fielder leading the team in rbi, about the only guy on the team who gets occasional clutch hits. With a stupid GM, The “Bonfire of the Vanities” owner, a manager who gets stuck on stupid, crap veterans purchased with useful prospects, your diagnosis of the team’s woes is lame.
RBI's
Seriously? This is a blog that has a bit of a saber slant to it and sabermetrics as spent the last 20 years pointing out that RBI’s and BA are basically garbage stats to use to judge a hitter, yet those are the two stats that make him look good so that’s how everyone defends him. Loney is a second division starting 1B but that’s okay because that’s where we are now. He should be traded to some sad sack team like the Orioles to let them waste their time seeing if he will ever have even average power for a 1B.
Even those of us who use sabremetrics still like Loney
and to make an argument against him when history has plenty of 1st baseman who got better from age 26 on ignores the fact of what he is and still what he can be. I tend to agree that Loney is the least of the Dodger problems, so if you have a problem with that, fine, but don’t diss our readers because they don’t cowtow to your beliefs.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
He’s still better than average in a lot of other categories: OBP, BB rate, K rate. I’m not going to call him a premiere first baseman, but I can deal with him at that corner a lot longer than I can Blake at the other. Or Martin behind the plate. Or Podsednick/Paul/Anderson in left. Loney might not be great, but I still don’t think he is anywhere near the biggest problem.
Amen. RBI may or not be a relevant stat to some people, but when your starting catcher has 24 of them w/less than 60 games left in the year, that’s not a good sign. And certainly not a sign that the problem is your first baseman.
by KellyStephen on Aug 1, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
If you think Loney is the problem with this team, you have no clue as to what you are talking about.
by KellyStephen on Aug 1, 2010 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know the actual words in Japanese, but I am aligned with the groundskeepers from “Major League” at the beginning of the season. The translation: “These guys are shitty.”
Today’s left fielder?
Today’s second baseman?
Today’s right fielder?
Today’s third baseman (ouch, that hurts)
that’s only 1/2 the postiion players – wtf?
by 68elcamino427 on Aug 1, 2010 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
how about catcher and....
(ouch, this hurts): center fielder
manager
general manager
assistant bench coach
owner
bench
farm system
short-term outlook
long-term outlook
by lchristmas on Aug 1, 2010 10:36 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Loney
is the least of our problems only because well we have a lot of problems. Yeah Loney is better than Theriot and Podsednik are at their positions but that only underscores the point that those are horrible fucking decisions. Sure he could get better. The Pirates are still waiting for Laroche and Millege, well half their damn roster to live up to the promise they once showed at some point.
Yeah Loney works out fine last year when the offense is solid 1-8. When he’s suddenly our second best hitter like he is now is when we are in a lot of trouble.
I hope your not comparing Loney to LaRoche or Milledge?
because if you are, simply stop.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
After Milledge was traded for Schneider and Church
Didn’t zips do a projection of his career that showed him with a HOF career?
Having trouble finding that page.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Aug 1, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Loney
I live with the fact that realistically, Loney isn’t going anywhere and that he isn’t the worst player to have around and that sadly, he’s better than half the crap Colletti will consider starting position players. Sure, we can also wish upon a star that he turns out like Adrian Gonzalez but while that’s possible, it’s not very likely.
I’m not saying he’s worthless crap, but it’s getting about time we let someone else find out if he will ever put it all together instead going down with the ship with him. He’s not cheap anymore either. Again, I realize the budget just isn’t there to do any better, but Loney is a guy who barring a torrid hot streak starting any day now is going to finish his first 3 full seasons having never cracked a .800 OPS and that is 100% unacceptable for a 1B on a team that wants to get anywhere.
What percentage of 1B fail to crack a .800 OPS in their first 3 seasons go on to stardom versus ones who well stay around that level the rest of their careers?
Again I realize he isn’t chopped liver but at some point we need better or we’re going to have more years like this one, or 2008 without the rest of the division being shit which is basically what this year is shaping up to be.
Little late with this but
If you are elected to the baseball hall of fame 28 years earlier and are still doing what got you there better than ever, you might be a legend.
by kinbote on Aug 1, 2010 10:35 PM PDT reply actions 5 recs
sorry what is this in reference to, I just starting browsing through the thread
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
August 1, 1982
Vincent Edward Scully was inducted into the HOF
by Eric Stephen on Aug 1, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
ah wow sorry i missed that
that is a point comment kin
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
Unless the Dodgers win 5 games in a row, they will be no better than they were the last time there was a TBLA night.
Okay, they could go 4-1 but a lot of teams would have to lose too.
Dodgers will be farthest they have ever been for a TBLA or DT sanctioned or unsanctioned gathering at Dodger Stadium since 2006.
In 2006 – one game out, won, San Diego lost, moved into tie for NL West
2007 – otherwise known as release day for HPADH, Dodger tied with San Diego, the Dodgers won, San Diego lost, moved into sole possession of first place.
2008 – unsanctioned gathering after DT Picnic – Tied going into game, Dodgers lost to Brewers (1st appearance of DSB), Arizona won, had one game lead of division.
2009 – Dodgers never lost possession of first place, in May gathering for Jon’s booksigning, July at Manny’s return and of course at TBLA night on the NL West Clincher.
2010 First TBLA night, Dodgers entered game 6 games behind Padres, Dodgers won, Padres lost, 5 games back division, 4.5 games back of Wild Card
Well
Every time I’m ready to give up on the team (like I am now) like back in 2006 and 2008 we go on some ridiculous tear. In fact, it usually happens the day after I post this image somewhere:
Maybe this is where we peel off a 10 game win streak and the Dodgers say just kidding to all of us who think they couldn’t hit water in Atlantis
NFL owners wants to change the structure
which is interesting since the players don’t have a lot of rights as it stands now.
supposedly the players cant survive a lockout because they dont save any money
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Aug 1, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
If all goes as planned, in about a year and a half major league baseball can post a big sign saying “Sport With Longest Tenure Since Work Stoppage” :)
by Eric Stephen on Aug 1, 2010 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
So wait
NBA is almost certainly going into lockout, and now there might be no NFL nxt year… Is it wrong to watch hockey now?
If the eyes are the windows to the soul, then these sunglasses are the curtains telling you to keep the fuck out!!!
by angelofdeath on Aug 1, 2010 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I really got into hockey liek 3 years ago because of my roomate
its awesome, and the kings have a great up and coming squad, jump on the bandwagon now!
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
the team is young and exciting, and got a little playoff experience
im looking forward to the upcoming year
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
You should think about ending that drought
They’re like, good and stuff… With or without Ilya Kovalchuk…
If the eyes are the windows to the soul, then these sunglasses are the curtains telling you to keep the fuck out!!!
by angelofdeath on Aug 1, 2010 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Kopatar is pretty good. I’m blanking on any other players on that team besides him, but he would be a good player to build around.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Drew Doughty is pretty good... To make the Canadian Olympic hockey team at 20 is pretty impressive...
Oh and their GM is good… Unlike you know, us…
If the eyes are the windows to the soul, then these sunglasses are the curtains telling you to keep the fuck out!!!
by angelofdeath on Aug 1, 2010 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Well
What a week… from hell…
If the eyes are the windows to the soul, then these sunglasses are the curtains telling you to keep the fuck out!!!
And, ya' know
even if you were sitting in a garage huffing paint thinner, it probably was still the better decision.
Eh, you guys know what I think. Don't think the team was good enough to win before the trading deadline, and now they're in such a hole that it's almost impossible to get out of.
Putting Scotty Pods, and Theriot in the leadoff and 2nd spot means no runs? Who knew?
I thought grittiness and gamerness counted for some runs
Somebody lied to me
If the eyes are the windows to the soul, then these sunglasses are the curtains telling you to keep the fuck out!!!
by angelofdeath on Aug 1, 2010 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuckin A!
Quit yer bitching. Sure we suck right now, but there is plenty of ball left to be played. We are not done yet. Sure we can continue to stumble. But until then let’s try a little optimisim. It ain’t over till it’s over. Let’s not get there in the 3rd and leave in the 7th. This thread reads like MCC before they started winning. Cock, balls! Go Dodgers!!
by Skunkburner on Aug 1, 2010 11:18 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
You can tell that Bowa's dipped into the crazy pool one too many times and the players are tuning him out
One thing I’m going to be glad for is that Bowa’s time with the Dodgers is probably ending. Definitively time to move on.
After seeing him at Camelback this year
Bowa kind of won me over. He was the only coach that had something to say to every position player during drills. Its probably super annoying when its your boss, but as a fan looking on, Bowa appeared to be working twice as hard as any other coach.
I respect Bowa as well
heard him on PMS the other day and he gave a real honest and straightforward interview talking about expectations and what not
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
I don't know about you,
But I agree with Bowa. It’s a long season, but for the $ they are making, shit for the love of the game, they should be busting thier ass day in and day out. If they get beat, at least they can say they gave it everything they had. Then come back the next day and do it all over again.
by Skunkburner on Aug 1, 2010 11:50 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I know clubhouse attitude is often times regarded as unimportant
especially in a game like baseball that’s very numbers oriented, but reading this doesn’t come as a surprise. Players to me have looked lacking in energy and focus. I know losing will amplify the feeling that players arent trying and what not, but I cant help but feel like some players are lacking a sense of urgency. I only say this because I wholeheartedly believe this team is as, or more talented than any in the NL west and right now the play is not acceptable.
Guys that are slumping need to make it a point to do whatever they can at the plate, whether its taking pitches and fighting off pitches, or hustling out of the batters box on every ground ball. I just feel like someone needs to light a fire under these guys’ asses, and I have no problem with Bowa saying that, even if they don’t listen, that, to me, is still part of being a coach
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
I can’t say I totally disagree with Bowa.
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 2, 2010 12:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm late to the party here
But I also kinda agree with Bowa. I don’t like seeing my favorite player called out, but he’s right about Kemp. A big part of his game is his speed — that’s why we thought that super-high BABIP was sustainable. Kemp does need to be busting out of the batter’s box, because he can.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
Missed the last 6 innings of the game, and I can say i’m glad i did. Went to Gloria’s on Venice (their carne adobado is fucking amazing) and didnt have to watch this sorry excuse for an offense try to produce. Right now, the focus just has to be on next year because obviously this team will not make the playoffs unless a miracle happens. Kemp needs to follow his own advice in that Simers article and spend every available minute in the cage, watching tape, etc. Ethier needs to take constant BP against lefties. Russell Martin needs to…welll, he should be looking for a good real estate agent to sell whatever property he has in L.A.
Its really depressing so come to the realization that after the last 2 awesome years, we wont be participating in the playoffs and that we dont have a ton to look forward to in the coming year. Sure, we still have some talent (i’m looking at you Fookie, Kersh, Bills, Kuo, Brox, Jansen, Kemp, Ethier), but there are just so many damn holes for next year that just wont be filled with playoff level talent. Without the money to fill those holes, next year could very well be a repeat of this one, with a 3rd or 4th place finish in the division.
The Giants won the last
Two games because Pat Burrell got hits off Clayton and Jonathan.
by bhsportsguy on Aug 2, 2010 12:50 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Who you rag on...you can rag on everyone
It is easy to rag on Casey Blake this year and today’s performance wasn’t great. But he did account for the only run yesterday and is in double digits in HR’s. He will end up between 15-18, maybe 20 if he ever gets hot again.
Next year the last year of his contract he will make 6million, if the Dodgers had been smart they could have brought DeWitt back to his normal position and have him platoon with Blake, or if they had any 3rd base depth in the organization they could be grooming that person. Of course now they have neither…But the point is if you make Casey a super utility player next year and instead of hitting 15-18, he hits you 10-12 and plays some 3rd, and occasionally subs for Loney, he would be very valuable…..Maybe we bring back Beltre!
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