It Don't Mean A Thing If They Ain't Got That (East Coast) Swing
The Dodgers set out today on a seven-game Eastern Division road trip that takes them to Philadelphia for three games and Atlanta for four. Extended travel accompanied with a three-hour time change makes for additional challenges, so one might expect it to be a little more difficult to win games in such situations. So how have the Dodgers fared in recent years when spending six or more consecutive games in the eastern time zone?
| Year | Dates | Cities | W-L Record |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2010 | June 15-20 | Cincinnati, Boston | 2-4 |
| 2010 | April 20-28 | Cincinnati, Washington, New York | 2-7 |
| 2010 | April 5-11 | Pittsburgh, Florida | 2-4 |
| 2010 | Total | 6-15 | |
| 2009 | Sept 22-28 | Washington, Pittsburgh | 3-4 |
| 2009 | May 12-17 | Philadelphia, Florida | 4-2 |
| 2009 | Total | 7-6 | |
| 2008 | Aug 22-28 | Philadelphia, Washington | 0-7 |
| 2008 | Jun 13-19 | Detroit, Cincinnati | 3-3 |
| 2008 | Total | 3-10 | |
| 2007 | Aug 21-26 | Philadelphia, New York | 3-3 |
| 2007 | June 19-24 | Toronto, Tampa Bay | 3-3 |
| 2007 | May 29 - June 4 | Washington, Pittsburgh | 5-2 |
| 2007 | May 4-10 | Atlanta, Florida | 3-4 |
| 2007 | Total | 14-12 | |
The answer is: not so well. In the last eleven such stretches spanning the last four seasons, the Dodgers have emerged with a winning record exactly twice, and one of those winning trips featured two of the worst teams in the National League that year, the Nationals and the Pirates.
That is not a heartwarming notion for a team that needs to win games at a high rate in order to have a shot at being in any playoff race this season, a team that cannot accept a losing road trip right now.
The Dodgers do catch Philadelphia in a fortunate spot in the rotation, facing only Roy Oswalt of the big three starters, and the Phillies also have injury issues - something that has dogged them all season as Phil mentioned in his team preview - but somehow that team manages to be only two games behind the Dodgers other foe this trip, the Atlanta Braves, headed into Monday's action. All Atlanta has done is tie for the most wins in the National League this season to date.
Meanwhile the Padres host the Pirates and travel to San Francisco, the Giants have the Cubs at home before San Diego invades the phone booth, and the Rockies are in New York before coming home to face the Brewers.
Does this trip make or break the season for the Dodgers? When the team trails three others in the division, is out of the lead by seven games, is five behind in the wild card and is trailing four other teams in that race, every series is the most important series of the year. A 4-3 trip might be treading water, but five or more wins on this trip might be an extremely tall order.
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Aah, that wonderful
Aug. 2008 trip. They set the bar pretty low with that one. It’ll be tough to match.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
And that trip had the Nats in it
This one has the first-place Braves instead. And all the trips this year have been two-win trips. I don’t want to be pessimistic but….
Hey, two sweeps gets them to 13-15 on the season for these kinds of games!
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
OT: Boyfriend bails on foul ball, girlfriend stuck on arm
What a loser. Sideline reporter: “Next time … don’t go the other way like a little chicken”. LOL. Video from mlb.com.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
This guy is a freakin douche
look how he is wearing his hat, for one thing. For another what a chicken shit. That chick is way too good looking for someone that douchey.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
by Ivdown on Aug 10, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
+10
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 10, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
I did this at a AAA game once. I was sitting right behind the third base dugout, and a player ripped a line drive foul. It was the hardest hit ball I have seen in person. I was at the game with my mother-in-law, and I had told her I would protect her. This ball was a good two rows in front, but I just went into survival mode and ducked. I never heard the end of it. I am still amazed that the ball did not hit someone, and if it had squared a little kid in the head, the end result would have been death.
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 10, 2010 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I hate that guys facial hair, the way he wears his hat, and everything else I could possibly pass judgement on based on that vieo. That girl deserved to be hit for dating that d’bag.
My co worker called him a d’bag, classic
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 10, 2010 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
um
Deserves to be hit? Really? Classy.
Leading the league in OMGs || Proud owner of a Chad Billingsley Real Doll
serious
the guys a douche so let’s hate the girl? deflect much?
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 10, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes
I meant that absolutely sincerely. There was no exaggeration there. None at all. Back here at the cave, we regularly club women as a pre-sexual display of our dominance.
You were being facetious
but it still shows traces of nice guy syndrome. you were one sentence away from saying girls only fall for assholes.
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 10, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
my only real contention
is that it wasn’t clearly conveyed that you were trying to be ironic. Because you were echoing the rest of the statements made by everyone else.
Leading the league in OMGs || Proud owner of a Chad Billingsley Real Doll
You mean they don't?
How can this be! My entire perception of women and relationships is based on made-for-tv lifetime original movies! I can’t think any other way.
"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
I disagree on nice guy syndrome
I don’t think being irritated that girls validate morons like him is the same thing.
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
oh man
so we can analyze that dude and that chick from all the way over here BUT CHAD DOES NOT HAVE MENTAL ISSUES GOD DAMMIT
:)
Leading the league in OMGs || Proud owner of a Chad Billingsley Real Doll
Says the woman who invites me to a real doll tea party on facebook?
"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
I told you
Chad gets mad if i hang out with other guys, so you only have to wear the floral bonnet for 30 minutes. Stop whining.
Leading the league in OMGs || Proud owner of a Chad Billingsley Real Doll
maybe
he’s funny. Maybe he remembers her birthday. Maybe they’ve known each other since kids, and know the real person inside each other.
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 10, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
all we know is
she will NEVER, let him forget that. evereverevereverevereverevereverevereverevereverever………
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 10, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I was discussing this with k3vo just now
and my comment was infinitely less appropriate.
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Awesome video
That guy is out of his league with her anyway.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 10, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
I like how she was mocking his cowering.
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 10, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of a gal being out of a guy's league
check out this gal’s clever way of quitting her job.
(Assuming it’s legit; not 100% sure but pretty funny nonetheless. And frankly, she is kinda hot. But I wouldn’t be the douchey coworker that that guy was.)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
LOL
but not for the reason you want. :-)
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I commented below, saw Tripon's link too late
Never mind! as Gilda Radner would say. ;-)
Damn that girl’s hot. Obviously fakeroo…
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I'll just slink back to the woods now...
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
bad underdog
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
just remember, if something is chasing you, split up
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 10, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Or if someone plays the banjo...
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
or if you find
weird sticks in trees, or piles of rocks
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 10, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
It depends on if you can outrun the person with you
if you can, stick with them.
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
Let your girlfriend get hit or mess up your beer pong arm.
A tough choice for Brosideon King of the Brocean.
by regfairfield on Aug 10, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions 7 recs
Sersiously one of my favorite phrases
OF ALL TIME.
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
recommended
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 10, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
At some point they need a7-3 stretch
According to my calculations the Dodgers will need between 93-95 wins to get into the playoffs. In order to do that with their present record, they need to almost play 700 in the last 50 games. Hence they could go 4-3 over this road trip, but than have to really get hot. So lets go 5-2 now.
Met's cant be this crazy
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/08/beltran-trying-to-rebuild-value.html
Beltran’s first 90 plate appearances and 180 innings in center field have gone so poorly that David Waldstein of the New York Times says the Mets would let him go for nothing if a team claims him off waivers this month.
seriously?
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 10, 2010 8:56 AM PDT reply actions
Last season (injury shortened) Beltran had a wOBA of .398 in 357 plate appearances. The year before in a full year his wOBA was .380.
He only has 90 PAs this season and his BABIP is .222. If/when the BABIP normalizes he should get his wOBA up to around .340 per ZIPS.
Not sure what his contract is like, but I’ve always loved Beltran.
by Michael White on Aug 10, 2010 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions
I think i saw something
that next year is the last year in his contract, and he’s owed like $18 mil. Not sure how much is left this year.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 10, 2010 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions
From
Cot’s (emphasis mine):
7 years/$119M (2005-11)
* signed by NY Mets as a free agent 1/05
* $11M signing bonus
o $5M at signing 1/05, $2M 6/15/05, $2M 1/15/06, $2M 1/15/07
* 05:$10M, 06:$12M, 07:$12M, 08:$18.5M, 09:$18.5M, 10:$18.5M, 11:$18.5M
* full no-trade clause
* $22M ($5.5M annually from 2008-11 salaries) deferred at 1.72% compounded interest
* club agreed to not offer arbitration after 2011 season
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
A full no-trade clause prevents a DFA?
by Michael White on Aug 10, 2010 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Nor a claim off waivers
but I doubt the Mets just let him go. They would want something.
I actually find the whole story non-credible.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
hence my "seriously?"
i mean, it’s still Carlos Beltran. It’s not like he’s been ineffective for years now.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 10, 2010 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions
oh
i thought it was just last year he was hurt.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 10, 2010 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions
I still don't see a team giving up on a Carlos Beltran
after 90 PAs and 180 innings in the field after such a major surgery. Ridiculous.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
i know
with the mets FO already in bad with the fans, just can’t see them doing that.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 10, 2010 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions
I do too.
We’d be going ballistic if somebody wrote this about Kemp or something.
by Michael White on Aug 10, 2010 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Mets fans aren't too happy either
from what I saw on MLBTR they were complaining that it would leave them with Francoeur starthing in RF.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 10, 2010 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions
I did like this line though in the NYT
Pagan practically worships Beltran …
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Doesn't prevent a DFA
but the Mets would be on the hook for the entire salary.
For them to rid themselves of the salary, they need to place him on waivers, which would require his consent.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 10, 2010 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions
At Starbucks this morning
and I saw an older gentleman, probably in his late 50s, and he is wearing a “Dodger” cap…
1) that is black
2) that has a red LA logo
3) that has the logo off to the left side of the front, and tilted at an angle
4) that has the New Era logo on the side
But, since I am now tolerant of other hat choices (basically I’m like Ghandi), I will not comment on this gentleman’s chapeau choice.
Tea and orange juice. Internet was out at the apartment (Charter = dead to me) so came to Starbucks to get some blogging in.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 10, 2010 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions
We switched to Charter, so far I love it.
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 10, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions
I will switch it to early 60s then. Bottom line is, the dude was not in the “alternate” cap demographic.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 10, 2010 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm just getting a little sensitive with 50 starting to stare me in the face
Phil is over 50, would you call him “an older gentleman” to his face? Well, don’t focus on the gentleman part. ;-)
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Eric just calls me that "old hairless fuck with the 150 truck"
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Neither one of you looked that old ;)
I imagined Phil as the old guy who when the ball goes into his backyard it’s gone forever, so I was surprised to see him much less grumpy than I had anticipated at the TBLA game :P
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
That's nice of you
And you looked less mopey in person too! ;-)
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Remind him of the beatdown he'll get from non-douches
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I had a dream last night…
That the Dodgers made a trade with the White Sox. As part of the transaction, however, the Dodgers traded Eric Stephen to Chicago and he would then be forced to run the White Sox blog. I’m not kidding…that was my dream
That is
awesoke. I wonder how well Uncle Google would play on the south side though,
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
It has been a while since I wrote about Pierre and Andruw. Might be a nice refresher!
by Eric Stephen on Aug 10, 2010 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions
plus
you’d get to do interviews with the always entertaining Ozzie Guillen.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 10, 2010 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions
But how are the Chisox on blogger access?
None, I imagine.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
You'd get to meet and talk with the Hawk
that is awesoke.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Speaking of internet needs
Anyone know of a sports bar with wifi near LAX?
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Unfortunately
WiFi in the airport is not free. And the parking rates suck.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
is there a Buffalo Wild Wings near LAX? I know they offer wifi.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 10, 2010 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Closest is Del Amo Mall in Torrance
Which is a little far for a 4 PM start. Shoot.
Maybe one of the local hotels has free wifi in their bar.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
And if I were Nate
I could scout for cougar businesswomen on travel.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I work near LAX
looking for a place to sneak out and watch the game tonight, and if they have free WiFi, I can comment on here too.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
you could sit in my breakroom that has basic cable, bring your own beer on the down low and I can give you the wifi password.
@soyboquense
that would be ...
… odd, wouldn’t it? Or awesoke. I’m not sure which.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
You make it sound less appealing
than the bar at the Hacienda Hotel.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
The bar at the Sheraton
is really nice, though kind swanky and I’m not sure on the TV sitch. A coworker took me out for drinks there once, course I’m young enough to be his daughter. Awkward.
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 10, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Awkward indeed
I have treated younger co-workers on my team to happy hour to congratulate them, but as a (co-ed) group. Much more appropriate.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Plus, you didn’t send out invitations to the “pants party.”
Made all the difference in the world.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 10, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
This was
for a consulting firm working on the LAX Development project. We had a bunch of fly ins for special projects, they’d all get put in the Sheraton, and they’d buy young secretaries booze. Great system to work if you can handle two drinks and leave politely.
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 10, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Douchebags
all of ’em.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
aww look at you, getting all fatherly : )
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 10, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
My daughter is 20
so, yeah.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
They recently
did a What Would You Do? on ABC news seeing if people would stop a guy from taking a drunk girl he didn’t know out of a bar.
He never succeeded, except for the time he was sitting next to another 20 something, who encouraged him.
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 10, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
And we used to say
“Never trust anyone over 30.”
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I like that place
Haven’t checked which ones guarantee WiFi access in the bar yet though.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
From Yahoo Finance:
Stocks have started to grind their way higher. Weakness remains widespread, though.
love
stocks that grind, and have grit.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 10, 2010 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions
In today's world
those are Jamey Carroll / Scott Podsednik markets.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
For Connector
Regarding Furcal, I don’t think the Dodgers know if he will be ready for today. On Sunday, Torre said they were planning to have Furcal ready to play Tuesday, but when asked if he was ready, Torre kept saying “we hope so.” It basically comes down to how Furcal feels today and responds to warmups.
this is why I didnt balk at the idea of trading Furcal at the deadline. it was the epitome of sell high. his back is always going to be a problem.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Aug 10, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Don't suppose...
there are any other Philly-based TBLAers who are going to the game tonight? I’ll be in section 146.
Surprise surprise, Tony LaRussa is upset that someone is playing the game the wrong way:
http://bit.ly/cEINM2
.385/.556/.577 since the AA AS Break
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=477054
He’s an OBP machine right now.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Wanna get depressed?
Further proof that nobody watches baseball in Southern California, courtesy of DRaysBay:
The “average rating” represents the percentage of households in the market area that are viewing the game each night, meaning 5.52% of the Tampa-St. Pete market is tuning in for Rays’ games each evening. This ranks the Rays seventh in all of baseball. Even if you decide to look at the total number of households in the market watching the Rays play, at nearly 100,000 televisions per evenings, the Rays rank eleventh in all of baseball. That puts the Rays ahead of many teams with much, much larger markets. Heck, the Rays are even ahead of the Dodgers (99K households to 92K) despite the fact that there are 12.8 million people in the Los Angeles metropolitan area and only 2.75 million in the Tampa-St. Pete area.
That doesn’t depress me.
Why does it depress you?
by Michael White on Aug 10, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
I may have oversold it.
Just more that the TV network in 2014 won’t be the cash cow many believe it will be, since nobody will be watching.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 10, 2010 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
I think the network will allow Frank/Dodgers to expand their market size.
Frank would be able to expand into Las Vegas (historical LA market) and Taiwan/Japan. The YES network is rolling in cash thanks to Matsui and Japan.
by Michael White on Aug 10, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
In all seriousness, LA has the largest over the air tv watchers in the country, so most of the people cannot even watch the games on FSN
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 10, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
that's what I was thinking
FSN is not the most accessible channel
Leading the league in OMGs || Proud owner of a Chad Billingsley Real Doll
But would a Dodger network be more accessible? It would be on the same tier as FSN, presumably. Although, as Mike pointed out, perhaps in more markets is where the extra scrilla comes in.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 10, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
we wouldn't at all be limited by region
DTV in Albuquerque, Las Vegas, in San Francisco where all the ex-Pat Dodger fans are. Lot’s of untapped markets.
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 10, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Would other major-league teams have a say in the domestic markets?
Don’t think Giants’ ownership would take kindly to Dodger broadcasts in their market.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
WGN mate
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 10, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
I am not sure how one would go about getting another superstation (like WGN and TBS), but that’s not what YES is, for instance.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 10, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
The Dodgers would have to make the argument. I think its an easy sell to include Las Vegas, but the further north and south you go in California might get dicey.
I know the Yanks are pretty liberal and they hammer parts of Connecticut and Vermont which would otherwise be considered Red Sox territory.
by Michael White on Aug 10, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
The Yanks get the whole state of New York which seems like an easier sell than LAD getting the whole state of CA. Though the Yanks are stealing market share from Indians, Pirates and Blue Jays which are closer stadiums for parts of the state. But since those markets are small anyway and not occupied by 1 particular team, its not a good comp for the Dodgers moving into SF or SD proper.
by Michael White on Aug 10, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Is it really?
FSN is where the popular Lakers are carried as well, though only the home games. I’m pretty sure it’s in the first tier above stripped-down basic in my cable market, West Valley Time Warner.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
I know we watch a lot of the games on KCAL in this household.
Leading the league in OMGs || Proud owner of a Chad Billingsley Real Doll
When the game is on KCAL
it is only on KCAL though, so I watch a lot of KCAL games too.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
I haven’t paid a lot of attention to the channel the Lakers are on because they are, invariably, on in my house. My dad is a die hard Lakers fan. :)
Leading the league in OMGs || Proud owner of a Chad Billingsley Real Doll
Did I mention how awesoke your dad was?
by Eric Stephen on Aug 10, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Almost invariably
KCAL on the road; FSN at home.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
.313/.368/.650 25/80 9 2B 6 HR 11 RBI 9 Runs since the AA AS Break
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=457726
:)
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
http://mashable.com/2010/08/10/girl-quits-job-farmville-boss/#view-as-one-page
Girl quits her job outing her boss on his online activities. The boss was right about one thing though, she’s really is a HOFA.
Maybe that's how the boss
pronounced it.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
It's funny now
and maybe she’ll get enough exposure to get a different kind of job, but I would never hire her as an assistant after that.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
This will help
91311 will be calling
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 10, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
It's the sexual harrassment that should be the focus
not how she quit the job.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
On the serious
this boss deserved to be taken down a peg, I don’t quite agree with the theatrics but it’s not like he was a model professional. Homegirl has a nice apartment too, think she’ll be just fine
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 10, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes and no. There is an adult way of handling this type of thing, and although I think it is funny, I am with Dave. Any employer would see a lack of maturity here and would think twice about hiring her.
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 10, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
On the other hand, the guy totally deserved it. Two wrongs make a right.
by regfairfield on Aug 10, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Yup
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 10, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
I mean context is king here, and we are trusting everything she says. I agree, if he said it, he should be sitting with the Houston guy down the line in Left Field. But I would love to see her computer statistics too for comparisons sake.
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 10, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Why?
She was not the kingpin telling his minions to stop using the internet while he was doing it. Her usage has no bearing on the situation.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 10, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Hypocrisy…if she is going to call it out.
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 10, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
If she was the person who
brought in the software and mandated everyone stop using the internet for personal use, then yes, that would be hypocrisy, but in this case she was simply the admin of a tool her boss brought in. I don’t see the hypocrisy at all.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 10, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
I never saw a mandate in the photos, just that he wanted to be able to “spy”
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 10, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
if you buy “spy” software it is usually to enforce the company policy of restricted personal internet use.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 10, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
and admins aren’t exactly expected to like run the company or whatever
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 10, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
I sit here on TBLA among other websites all day. for me to call out my boss for sitting on fantasy baskettball websites all day, it would be hypocrisy. I can call him out for a million other things, just not that.
@soyboquense
If your boss
fired someone for inappropriate time wastage, you could call him out without being a hypocrite. I think in her sitch, it was just an extra charge piled on top of the whole sexual harassment thing, like a cop charging a felon with a misdemeanor to add time.
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 10, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Don't agree at all
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 10, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
I respect your opinion here, just disagree. But I still think it is funny
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 10, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree with the first part
but that doesn’t make the second part disappear.
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by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm impressed she had the gonads
to see it through. Most of us would simply fantasize about quitting like that. She saw it through, that is a skill you don’t find very often. You may call it immature, I call it stick-to-it-ness. She is my hero. I bow while applauding. I’m in awe.
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by Phil Gurnee on Aug 10, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Well yeah
most of us fantasize about doing that because it’s a completely inappropriate way of leaving a job. Trust me, I had this fantasy of walking to HR and telling her that I knew all the shit she was talking about me and end the tirade with my bra size (this woman actually was speculating about how I must be wearing a padded bra) But I don’t understand the people in the work place who feel that they deserve to have internet access to do whatever they want. Yeah, it sucks if the boss is able to do what s/he wants but…that person is the boss.
The HPOA thing is completely inexcusable and while calling him out on that is funny, I would have just sued the pants off him. Less amusing to me, but more awesome.
It’s also possible she never intended for this to get leaked to the public. If it is real. :)
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She had to know it could end up everywhere if she is sending it to everyone by email.
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 10, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
she'd
have to have a rudimentary understanding of how email works to expect those pictures to not leave office hard drives in this day and age.
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by Josie Becker on Aug 10, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
+10
I did assume that the boss in the case was a middle manager, but maybe he runs the whole, small outfit.
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by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm fairly positive
this will lead to bigger roads in her life then in roadblocks. JMO
I don’t think she can sue simply for him telling someone on the phone she is a HPOA. That would generate a warning from the HR department if they had one but the company looks small so they don’t have one. A lawsuit would need repeated sexual harassment, or degrading behavior.
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by Phil Gurnee on Aug 10, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m litigious, so you’re probably right, but that doesn’t mean I wouldn’t have filed a claim with the department of labor.
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You and Frank McCourt!
:-P
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by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
:)
My awesoke father is an attorney.
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Remind me
never to hire you! :-P
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by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
hey
I’m awesome and I only recently started talking to my father about what is and is not appropriate in the workplace. As it turns out, a lot of the bs I put up with other the past year was borderline illegal/harassment. LOL?
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You're beyond awesome, you're awesoke!
Don’t put up with any of that crap next time. Make HR earn their keep.
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by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
If there’s one thing dudes who work in video games know, it’s social skills with women.
by regfairfield on Aug 10, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
In the engineering dept we don't have these harassament problems
Most of the guys are too intimidated to speak to the women at all.
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by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
While secretly seething
about how the woman simply don’t appreciate them?
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
Who knew two Aerospace companies could be so different?
by regfairfield on Aug 10, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I was exaggerating of course
but your company used to be known as the all old dudes company!
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Assuming he did say it, how long does she stay on the phone during transfers? Or does he answer the transfer by saying, “hello, thanks for being transferred by my HOPA”
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 10, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
I imagine it's her job to stay on the line
long enough to ensure the conversation starts.
Boss: “Boss man here”
Other Guy: “Who you got answering the phones these days?”
B: “My HPOA assistant”
{click}
Could be, I guess.
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by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
that does seem quite old-school, doesn’t it?
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by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Any system I've ever had. You always make sure the transfer
has worked.
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by Phil Gurnee on Aug 10, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Mine
you hit transfer, the extention, and then transfer again and it automatically transferred.
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Mine
I hit transfer, make sure the person they want to talk to is available, then hang up. We don’t blind transfer, we want to make sure they get a human being.
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by Phil Gurnee on Aug 10, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
We can get the human being to make sure they are there, but then I hit transfer to connect the two and I lose them.
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 10, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
For mine there are 4 "Park" sections
and each person in the office can pick up any of the park lines, or you can press transfer while on the phone with whoever and send them to the person they were calling for and the phone just hangs up at that point.
Both of these ways ensure no one will hear what the manager is saying.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
I started this with
maybe she’ll get enough exposure to get a different kind of job, but I would never hire her as an assistant after that.
So I guess I agree with you, but in the same line of work, any company with an HR dept would probably advise “no offer”.
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by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
That was Awesoke
She is HOPA – takes the library look to the perfect level
She is quite the actress
Pulled off a brilliant send off, maybe the best I’ve ever seen
Can handle the complexities of monitoring software
I like the dress code for the office
I’d hire her.
But I wouldn’t give her the codes to the monitoring software:)
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by Phil Gurnee on Aug 10, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Yea, giving her the codes was pretty idiotic. He should not even have the codes, it should be monitored by IT where he can request reports.
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 10, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
He
probably just saw Michael Scott do it and wanted to make sure no one was excluding him in evitations
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 10, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Exactly
My brother is that IT guy at a company. Nothing pisses him off more than having to service a PC and find out that what’s wrong is some application some douche downloaded off the net w/out permission.
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by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Pretty sure its from Chive
which is a wanna be onion
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
I'm old enough to answer that question.
I assume you mean before the internet?
We basically fantasized about the HOPA:)
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by Phil Gurnee on Aug 10, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Or read the
newspaper.
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by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Newspapers!
I knew there was a piece of media I forgot about. Are they still around?
And where can I get a Cool a Coo?
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by Josie Becker on Aug 10, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Niiiiiice call back!
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by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
They were made locally
by a factory in Pico Rivera. I think.
I feel sorry for anyone who never had a cool-a-coo at a Dodger game. Best baseball snack ever. EVER
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by Phil Gurnee on Aug 10, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Just not the same
without some guy with a button and mustache yelling “Cool-A-Coo”
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 10, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
I wrote that when
10 people used to read us.
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by Phil Gurnee on Aug 10, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
everybody's gotta start somewhere
I don’t even have a real blog : )
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by Josie Becker on Aug 10, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Can you get one?
I saw that Houston Dynamo has their own blog now.
by Michael White on Aug 10, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Ima
gonna give it two months, see if I don’t burn out, then request one from SBN
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by Josie Becker on Aug 10, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
I am going to claim that I once had a comment on that article
but…… :)
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by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
You paid the price for your uppity attitude
On a sad note, deleting your comments pretty much removed most of the comments of the previous administration.
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by Phil Gurnee on Aug 10, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
D Young used
to be an uppity frog?
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by Josie Becker on Aug 10, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
So much so I had to ban him.
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by Phil Gurnee on Aug 10, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I wasn't worth the effort of the
“Go Fuck Yourself” though!
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by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
was it a judicious use
of the banhammer? Or did you get all Super Smash Brothers back in the day?
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It was a “oh crap, I didn’t mean to press that button” move. :)
by Eric Stephen on Aug 10, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I wish I had a great story to go with the ban but
it simply Mr. Dickhead hitting the wrong button while trying to promote him to writer. So I got to give Dave the good and bad news gig.
The good news is that your now a TBLA writer, the bad news is that your 20,000 comments were deleted when I accidentally banned you.
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by Phil Gurnee on Aug 10, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
hahahahahaha
that is fantastic
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At least that is the story they told me
It is hilarious.
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by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
The comment counter didn't reset however
so the 14,297 comments is an accurate number, just don’t try to find the first 10,000!
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by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not really allowed
to have the home run bat in SSB anymore. There have been a few…incidents…..of ownage.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 10, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
They did work manually
that a PC automated
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
Oh damn, I posted this above too before seeing you'd already done it
So funny… she is indeed pretty hot. Suspiciously so. Wonder if it’s even real.
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I thought you were joking with your post. Classic
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 10, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Have you seen this Chive link about this hot girl who...
;-)
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I'll go back to listening to Comedy Death Ray podcasts and working...
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Top Five: Russell Martin Games As A Dodger
http://losangeles.sbnation.com/2010/8/10/1610474/dodgers-russell-martin-top-five
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OT for Josie
bought all the Scott Pilgrim books yesterday. already read 3.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 10, 2010 11:21 AM PDT reply actions
aren’t they flipping fantastic!?! I just picked up 6 last night, and….yeah : )
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by Josie Becker on Aug 10, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
yes
they are. In reading them, I can see how Micheal Cera will play nervous Scott, but I really want to see him as confindent/badass Scott.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 10, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
We'll find out
if he’s an actor or not with this movie. Cause I’ve seen his interviews. I’m just not convinced he has ever had sex ever.
what’s your favorite line from the first three?
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by Josie Becker on Aug 10, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
I might need to go back and look
but I like when Matthew Patel shows up in book 1
Wallace:Watch out! It’s that one guy!!
Scott: Okay! Thank you Wallace!
I like the dynamic those two have.
I also like in the beginning of book 2 where Wallace tells him he can’t come home because he had a date, and Scott basically curses him out like a 10-year old.
“You suck, Surprising no one!!!”
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 10, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Great scene
I love how Scott keeps cursing him out while getting smaller.
I also love the Ramona song: Ramona, Ramona, Ramona, Ramona, Ramona and then it goes duh dun duh Ramona
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 10, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Sounds like a rip off of the Cheers scene
Where Woody sings the Kelly song.
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by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
I also liked
how Scott employed Envy’s “weakness” in book 3.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 10, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I really
want to visit some of these places in Toronto. Honest Ned’s looks like Walmart on small business, which is scary to think about
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 10, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
uh.........people?
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/08/dodgers-interested-in-jose-guillen.html
I thought they wanted guys with good makeup?
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 10, 2010 11:39 AM PDT reply actions
The funny thing is that this would make two things happen that the guys on Dodger Talk said were unlikely on Sunday (see DFA Anderson)
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 10, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Saturday they said GA would not be DFAed for Gibbons
I laughed on Sunday when it happened.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Exactly. They were mocking the guy on the phone for it, and then it happened.
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 10, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, to be fair, Suchon specifically had asked Torre several times throughout the year about GA and Gibbons are one of the many replacements in AAA, and Torre gave no indication that anything would happen.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 10, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I do recall Mr. Stephen being very adamant
that GA would not be released.
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by Phil Gurnee on Aug 10, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I was listening to that and when he said Gibbons or Mitchell should be brought up
I said he was a smart guy, then they started basically laughing at his face, and I thought it was actually pretty messed up. Glad to see he got the last laugh.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
They took a chance
on Padilla last year when he might fill a need. Good makeup is certainly prefered, but ….
At blogger night, Ned did say that when he met with Padilla he make it clear the leash was very, very short. (Not his words, but that is the gist of it.)
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by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
i was just thinking of that
“Look d’bag, you’ve basically got yourself thrown out of every other team. We’ll give you a shot, you fuck up, you’re gone.”
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 10, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
And there's no way
the Dodgers do it until after he clears and can be had for the minimum.
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by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
The Lakers Schedule is out!
The Lakers Schedule is out!
(said in a Steve Martin, The Jerk tone of voice).
This is how 710 ESPN radio was acting this morning. I quickly turned the radio to FM.
I really
don’t get this. It’s not like basketball has a tailgate culture, and you get to see every team at home no matter what. So the big deal is?
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 10, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
For a lot of people
the NBA season is too long anyway, so people like to pick and choose games to watch.
I put something up on SBN LA about it FWIW
by Eric Stephen on Aug 10, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
The L.A. sports radio scene has been dominated by Lakers coverage since forever.
To the point where when 570 AM lost the Lakers game, they still proclaimed themselves the ’true Lakers station."
I know me and my buddies are planning on making 1 road trip this year, so we’ve been looking forward to the schedule coming out.
by Michael White on Aug 10, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
You must be going to Portland
so you just needed to know the candidate dates?
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by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Nah. Portland is one of the cities that we would consider, but I’m not necessarily partial to it since I get up there to visit the in-laws on holidays.
There are only a few cities that will work for a weekend trip, and the Clippers aren’t the hottest ticket in town, so the weekend games are fairly limited, but looking over the schedule we’ll have a few options.
by Michael White on Aug 10, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
… all with the same husband.
/rimshot
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by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I like to travel to games
but never considered traveling to a NBA game. I think you are going too far.
My first game http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/LAN/LAN198604280.shtml
I’ve never travelled for anything but NBA games. Not counting baseball games where I happen to be out of town in that city anyway.
by Michael White on Aug 10, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I would go to Oklahoma City.
I’m in that BBQ craze right now, plus they’re a team I’m going to be watching a lot this year. They’re so good and young.
by Julio Nievas on Aug 10, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Mychal Thompson should be banned from sports radio.
He compares EVERYTHING to the 80’s Lakers. EVERYTHING.
by Julio Nievas on Aug 10, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
That would be a fun thread
as the team chances for post season dwindle I think game thread themes could be the way to go.
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by Phil Gurnee on Aug 10, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
If posters don't follow the theme
they will get the David Young Treatment
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by Phil Gurnee on Aug 10, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
whats wrong wtih signing him for the minimum?
by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 10, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Because there's no where to put him. He's hasn't been productive at all. He can't play D, and he sucks.
Define unpproductive in relation to our current team
35 XBH,
You think Hoffman could do better? Do we have a better right handed pinch hitter available? Carroll, Ellis?
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by Phil Gurnee on Aug 10, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Can we stop trying to convert players who traditionally have started for their careers into bench players?
Saying we need a better Right handed PH, and then point to Guillen is fool hardy. He’s not going to accept a bench role for any team.
You basically want to sign a guy who had a 90 OPS+ over the past three season as a LF/DH!.
This is not a guy who will produce for you.
B-Ref also has Guillen at a -0.8 WAR over his last season, and 4.6 WAR in 14 seasons total.
Guillen is simply not a good player, and hasn’t been for his whole career.
maybe
it’s another Giant blocking move, or they’ll run up the price and trade for him. mwa hahahahaha.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 10, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
How many pinch hitters are good players?
How many 4th / 5th outfielders, back up 1st baseman who serve as the “power” for the bench are “good” players?
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by Phil Gurnee on Aug 10, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Most pinch hitters
come from the regulars who are no longer regulars. Who would you like to make pinch hitters from? Prospects who should be playing every day?
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by Phil Gurnee on Aug 10, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Delwyn Young.
Even if most bench players are made from regular starters. I still don’t think Guillen is one of them. The guy frankly should be out of baseball 5 years ago, his agent just sound a stupid GM time after time.
Well duh
I’d rather have Dunn than just about anyone out there (available). It’s just not gonna happen, because it would make me happy if it did, and that’s not allowed.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
but
it would also make me happy, and that is very much allowed.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 10, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Is that how things normally go for you? It all depends on if your power of getting what you want outweighs my power of rarely getting what I want. A battle of good and evil, if you will ;)
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
not really
i just like to delude myself.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 10, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
The best part
About this thread is that I have been singing the song “Don’t mean a thing…” in my head because of the title
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 10, 2010 11:53 AM PDT reply actions
Thank you
and glad to be of service.
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by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
WTF is this WTF?

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You can deep fry anything at the fair
Deep Fried Butter!
http://www.boingboing.net/2010/08/09/more-on-indiana-stat.html
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
I think
this offends me and everything I stand for
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my friend
Dana and I were going over the physics of this. It’s a butter flour mixture, but not enough to make it dough, that gets deep fried. They have it at the OC fair, for the curious.
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 10, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Fried Orange County Fair Food - everything is fair game
http://foodfrenzy.ocregister.com/2010/07/15/deep-fried-and-oversized-at-2010-oc-fair/21507/
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by Phil Gurnee on Aug 10, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
From the article
linked in the linked article above (follow that?):
But that’s not what it is. Blake Reas freezes the butter and covers it in cinnamon before cutting it into cubes and frying it in something that’s been at the fair for years: funnel cake batter.
He’s also added a secret twist he wouldn’t disclose to the original Texas recipe.
“It almost comes out tasting like a cinnamon roll,” he said.
…
“It’s almost like a really soft doughnut,” Edwards said. “It’s really like different than I expected.”
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by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe I can finally post

Deep Fried Coke
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by Josie Becker on Aug 10, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Evidently you can do anything with funnel cake batter
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by Phil Gurnee on Aug 10, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
But then it is really just coke flavored funnel cake
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 10, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
can't
put that on a poster : )
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 10, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
you need to watch more Modern Marvels
My first game http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/LAN/LAN198604280.shtml
we’ve had our top scientists on this for awhile
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 10, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
A couple weekends I had carnitas
cooked in a recipe that included coca-cola. It was ok, but regular carnitas are better.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Heart disease isn’t a medical problem! it is a way of life!
"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
Here we go
Deep Fried Pecan pie.
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by Josie Becker on Aug 10, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll be making my trip next weekend
I had my eye on the honey glazed krispy kreme sandwich, but maybe I’ll have to change my target…
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
Have
both!
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by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll have to wash it down
with some fried coke…
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
Wooo Hooo
Just to clarify for future use, what is the appropriate number of O’s for an over the top Woo Hoo
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by Phil Gurnee on Aug 10, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
hedging?
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by Phil Gurnee on Aug 10, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Does 2 make it over the top though?
I like Phil’s use of three.
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by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Are you telling me to kill myself in a polite way?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 10, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Redd Foxx's most useful advice
You gotta wash yo’ ass.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Holy Crap
The game is on KCAL tonight!
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 10, 2010 12:14 PM PDT reply actions
At 4 freakin' P.M.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Funnel Cake
is mine. I’m like Homer when I even start to think about going to the fair.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 10, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
"See Marge, I told you they could deep fry my shirt."
“I didn’t say they couldn’t, I said YOU shouldn’t.”
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 10, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
The Corn Dogs at Disneyland are serious
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 10, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Those gigantic corn dogs?
My first game http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/LAN/LAN198604280.shtml
For me? Yes, the cart right at the top of Main Street
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 10, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I dont think they sell standard ones anymore
My first game http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/LAN/LAN198604280.shtml
I just mean at a fair. I have never had the Disneyland ones.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 10, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I am saying that the fairs do not sell standard ones anymore
My first game http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/LAN/LAN198604280.shtml
Well, then I guess I will be nostalgic then.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 10, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I like the Indian Fry bread too
pretty much like funnel cake
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
Ooh, that's good too
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I've never been to any of the local fairs
I’ve been to the Western Washington State Fair and the Del Norte County Fair though. The former was a large event and fun, the latter a like I expect a small population county fair to be, and it was fun too.
Funnel cake definitely rocks.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow
you have lived here this long and never took your daughter to the Ventura, Orange, or LA County fairs? And you call yourself a father?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 10, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Srsly
who doesn’t want to go look at baby goats and piglets? COME ON.
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
Loved
the 4-H showings at the Del Norte County Fair.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Nope
but we did take her the above fairs.
Really should go to the Ventura one, which is the closest. Does the Oxnard Strawberry Festival count as a reasonable substitute?
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I say yes
it had the food without the animals.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 10, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
The eating was the best part
This was quite a few years back – Robert Cray played. He was pretty good.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Ventura is cool because you can take the train
and it limits your loved one from buying to much crap.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 10, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
and ride the train home drunk?
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Building your own strawberry shortcake
got my wife drunk with power.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 10, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Marriage wasn't enough to do that?
;-)
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
this made me laugh
really hard
Leading the league in OMGs || Proud owner of a Chad Billingsley Real Doll
My daughter got three blue ribbons
for her paintings at the Ventura Fair this year. Sorry, just some fatherly bragging. :)
How dare you not list the Antelope Valley Fair!!
DFA JAMES LONEY
by NotJoeTorre on Aug 10, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Corn Dogs, Funnel Cake, Candied Apples
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
I like caramel apples better
than candied.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
caramel apples aren't considered candied?
TIL
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
+10001.0239
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 10, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Strawberry Funnel Cake
Can’t so no to the fried batter.
by Julio Nievas on Aug 10, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Knott's Berry Farm
Funnel Cake with Boysenberry Jam. I’ll stop worlds for that. Didn’t talk to my best friend for a whole five mins when I found out she didn’t like funnel cake.
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 10, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Anything fried. Like fried Oreos
DFA JAMES LONEY
by NotJoeTorre on Aug 10, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
They must eat deep-fried butter
@dylanohernandez Lot of @hankschulman look-alikes wandering the streets of Philadelphia…
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I love the digs both of these writers toss at each other..
by Julio Nievas on Aug 10, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Serious ?
I have the second interview. What are good answers for “what is your greatest weakness?”
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 10, 2010 12:25 PM PDT reply actions
TBLA posting? No, but seriously
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 10, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Talk about something you did poorly
but realized it and improved.
But, you shouldn’t get that question. It’s really a stupid question, no one nowadays should care about that. Tell me why you would bring value to my institution.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
Which brings me to one of my favorite stories
This is back in the early 80’s. A friend left her job to move to California and asked her boss for a letter of recommendation. He wrote this glowing letter praising her for her efficiency, industriousness, etc. Then ended it with “And she’s got great tits”.
She drags that letter out about once a year for laughs.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
by mleadman on Aug 10, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
man
letters of rec were different back then. All mine were sealed twice and if I ask to be able to see them, apparently I’m like a weirdo or something
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 10, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I work too hard and care too much
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 10, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Kissing the ass of an interviewer.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Aug 10, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
funnel cake
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 10, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I just said
that I tend to get TOO focused on a task, and need to be careful to know when to pull back and reevaluate what I’m doing. Not sure if this applies to non software engineering disciplines as well.
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
Working TOO hard :)
But that is a tough one. I’m not ever sure what to say.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
I just got the #6 overall pick. Meh. At least I’m guaranteed Andre Johnson, but I wanted a surefire RB (there’s a huge dropoff after 5 IMO).
Doing that already? I would do it after the preseason games, avoiding injuries..
by Julio Nievas on Aug 10, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
No, draft starts on 8/30. We just did the order.
by silverwidow on Aug 10, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
we have bigger issues 8/30
My first game http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/LAN/LAN198604280.shtml
That sucks.
My issue is deciding what to do if the short RB from UCLA is still on the board. :)
by silverwidow on Aug 10, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Phillies lineup
Rollins SS
Polanco 3B
Gload 1B
Ibañez LF
Werth CF
Brown RF
Ruiz C
Valdez 2B
Kendrick P
it's the Phillies
they’re all douchbags
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 10, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t like to mock lineups when I know what’s coming…
by Eric Stephen on Aug 10, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
That is the worst Phillie lineup we have seen in years. No Victorino, Howard, or Utley.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 10, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
FUCK CARLOS RUIZ
Why is James Loney not batting 3rd?!
by NotJoeTorre on Aug 10, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
is the 1b named Gload
or is it a nickname like G-Load?
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
Belisario back
per Dylan H:
Ronald Belisario officially reinstated from the restricted list by the #Dodgers.
Can your teachers bet against you:)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100810/ap_on_hi_te/us_gambling_on_grades
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Dodgers acquire Jose Guillen
to have a death match with Pods. Winner gets the starting LF gig next season. All proceeds from said death match to be distributed amongst Jamie and the McCourt sons.
They need to go 5-2 at the very least
But I think they will go 4-3
by Eric Stephen on Aug 10, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
David's work tells me
1 – 6 is likely.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 10, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
At miller park or in New York?
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 10, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Duff Gardens
Why is James Loney not batting 3rd?!
by NotJoeTorre on Aug 10, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
now I want to know the scientific effects of keeping fish in beer
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 10, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions

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