Dodgers Seek Series Win In Philadelphia
The Dodgers have lost all five playoff games in Philadelphia in the last two years, and they were swept in four games here in 2008, but the Dodgers have won three-game series in the city of brotherly love in 2005, 2006, 2007, and 2009, so the city hasn't been all that bad to them.
If the Dodgers have any designs on making a playoff run, they should probably win a game started by Clayton Kershaw against Joe Blanton. The Phillies are still without Chase Utley and Ryan Howard, but Shane Victorino is back tonight, as he has been activated from the disabled list. The Dodgers are 2-5 in rubber games of three-game series on the road this season.
Notes
- The Dodgers have scored double-digit runs nine times this season, and have averaged 3.22 runs per game in the next game out, including last night's shutout loss. They have been shutout 13 times, and in the games immediately following the previous 12 shutouts, they have averaged 3.83 runs per game.
- Andre Ethier is hitting .361/.439/.639 with eight runs scored and seven RBI in nine games this month.
- Jamey Carroll is second on the Dodgers with 41 walks (the injured Russell Martin leads the club with 48 free passes), and his 13.8% walk rate is the highest of his career.
- The Dodgers are tied with the Giants for the National League lead in quality starts since the All-Star break with 17 (the NL average during that time is 13.4 per team)
- In the upcoming four-game series with the Braves this weekend, the Dodgers will again miss Chipper Jones, who is out for the season with a torn ACL, writes David O'Brien of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. Jones also missed all four games when the Braves were at Dodger Stadium in June, and missed the final three games in Los Angeles last season.
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The Dodgers’ spending in this draft could be historically low. They have signed eight of their top 10 picks and spent about $1.3 million on them, according to Baseball America. The Dodgers aren’t expected to sign their two unsigned top-10 picks, Lee and sixth-rounder Kevin Gausman.
The New York Mets had the lowest draft budget of any team last year, spending a total of $3.1 million, including $1.9 million on their top 10 picks. The Mets didn’t have a first-round pick.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-dodgers-fyi-20100812,0,5264569.story
Lineup
per Dylan Hernandez:
Podsednik LF
Theriot 2B
Ethier RF
Loney 1B
Belliard 3B
Kemp CF
Carroll SS
Ausmus C
Kershaw P
That is so god awful.
The fact that Torre prefers Theriot in the 2 spot over Carroll due to his speed advantage is very demoralizing.
very minimal difference in terms of runs/wins
by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Most important part of a lineup is getting the right eight guys in it.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s not what it’s designed to do. wOBA is linear weights scaled to league average OBP, no park factors.
I’d really like it to if we’re gonna use it as the offensive stat of record though.
by regfairfield on Aug 12, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, that's my point to. If we keep on using wOBA to what we want to do, it needs more context that its's missing.
But we use it throughout the year, no matter what, park factors in OPS+ don’t come out until the year is over.
by Michael White on Aug 12, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
They use the last years which is way better than nothing.
by regfairfield on Aug 12, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Right
Fangraphs does convert it to adjusted runs created (wRC+), which is adjusted.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Baseball 101
lineup construction doesn’t matter a whole lot. It matters, just not a whole lot.
Theriot vs Carroll, 2 vs 7 hole = doesn’t matter
Ethier batting third vs Ethier batting 8th? = Yeah, that matters over the long haul.
Meh. I'll stick with common sense.
Carroll played most of his career at 2nd, Theriot at SS. Works for me.
Good point there
I’ve been wondering the same thing.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Same reason you just shove Ross Gload in the three spot. Either baseball players are gigantic babies, or managers are lazy as hell.
by regfairfield on Aug 12, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
this
maybe you gain a small fraction of a run per game. I’m not going to sweat it. Niether should you. :)
vr, Xei
ha ha
Eric seemed to like the Brit’s, I’ll take a Parisian or Nordic. Safe to say German accents do nothing for anyone. Right?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Agree on all points. Parisian and Nordic are also great.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2010 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Fish Called Wanda
Greatest movie involving accents and the woman who love them?
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depends
on who the German accent is coming out of. Heidi Klum comes to mind.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I've never heard her talk
but yes, in that case who cares what comes out of her mouth.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
you don't really listen
you just kinda drift away at the noise, like listening to a seashell
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
he also sucks this year
that might have something to do with it
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
Does anyone have a guess as to where I could figure out the Dodger's record vs Left handed starters?
I used the Play Index on Baseball-Reference.com
They are 15-21 in games started by LHP against them
44-34 against RHP starters
by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
you should publish your theory in Scientific America!
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 12, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
tough crowd
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
well it would be more like 30% right?
What is the % of left handed starters in MLB I wonder.
Gosh darn it you are always on my back about junk
I am not laying claim to anything. It’s just that I hardly hear Dodger fans complain about Ethier and Loney starting against lefties, when it probably should be avoided at all times.
Its been brought up a few times, Loney does tend to get his off days against lefties as I recall, and yeah, you aren’t the only one who has said it.
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
Who has been receiving the starts in his place though?
Ronnie Beliard? The Dodgers need to invest in a real platoon.
That sounds like something a team with money would do.
by regfairfield on Aug 12, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
you’re on a short list of people with that suggestion.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd be on that list
but with different folks then Lindsey or Mitchell. I’d be benching Andre against LHP before I bench James. Most RH hitting 1st baseman are fairly crappy fielders and are really DH in NL clothing. While RH hitting Right Fielders for some reason are good fielders.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
if you wouldn’t want Lindsey or Mitchell, then you really wouldn’t be on that list.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Well
James Loney is hitting .230 .269 .325 against left handers this year.
Mitchell is at .417 .481 .757 at AAA against left handers
and Lindsey is at .431 .477 .725 at AAA against left handers.
How Could I not want that?
because
someone will show you their MLE pretty soon.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Mitchell’s MLE against lefties is like a .920 OPS. It owns, but it’s also the only time Mitchell as done anything nearly like that.
by regfairfield on Aug 12, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
It would still be better than Loney though.
Fine trade for Gaby Sanchez then. Marlins have Logan Morrison on the way. Sanchez destroys left handers and is way below average against right handers. Also cheap. Though I don’t know which prospects it would take to get him.
I doubt many here would disagree that the team would benefit were Loney to sit against LHP, but Lindsey and Mitchell aren’t really the answers.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Jay Gibbons has a history in the major leagues
Mitchell is still developing
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
Uh
thats not nitpicking. Sorry just because we do not lay down at your feet and worship your wisdom, does not make it nitpicking.
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
You dumb
seriously read that comment to yourself.
Jay Gibbons is a bad baseball player. People well tell you you’re wrong when you want to use bad baseball players.
by regfairfield on Aug 12, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
But why did you bring him up? Because he had a good 9 plate appearances?
by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Why do you think Lindsey and Mitchell are not real answers?
I’m guessing because you don’t think AAA stats (PCL in particular) are worth anything in MLB. Gibbons has not proven that he can sustain value, but he has shown that in a snap shot he can provide an upgrade. He provides an upgrade on GA, I think Lindsey could provide an upgrade on Loney. Where is the beef?
The beef is that I don’t think Mitchell nor Lindsey would be upgrades over Loney.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't understand why.
Did a AAA slugger call you names in high school or something? lol JK
I'll take this
regarding Lindsey. Instead of us doing your legwork, show us ONE major league who was in the AAA at age 32 who has never had an at bat and who had any type of a useful career. And then we will discuss Mr. Lindsey.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Damn you Andres Torres for giving us a counter to this.
by regfairfield on Aug 12, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I would be more willing to consider Lindsey than Mitchell FWIW
by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Give me a sec to research that.
Off the top of my head there was that guy on the Braves this year that hit a grand slam in his first at bat…I think.
Anyways, I would challenge you to find a case in which a 32 year old AAA slugger of Lindsey’s caliber was given a fair chance but failed to produce at the MLB level.
The lack of success is directly related to the number of chances of course.
Have you met Mitch Jones
Someone said as we shook hands….
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Aug 12, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
How many abs did he get? Like 10?
Poor example
Phil Hiatt springs to mind
check his minor league numbers, then check his major league numbers after he broke all those minor league records.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I would be more willing to consider Lindsey than Mitchell FWIW
by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
that'll teach you
for being a witty whippersnapper
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 12, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
No, but your point is that you want to fill the bench with players who’s one asset is the ability to hit left handed pitching. This sounds great until things like injuries happen and your platoon guys need to play every day.
If you put too many one tool players on a bench, no matter where they come from, you’re just asking to get screwed at some point.
by regfairfield on Aug 12, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
much better to fill the bench with Carroll, GA, Ausmus, Belliard(leffy killer), Reed Johnson (lefty Killer).
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Johnson and Belliard at least can play defense.
by regfairfield on Aug 12, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I heard Mitchell was ok defensively, at least no worse then Belliard.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I have my doubts
He must have been moved off of 3rd for two years for a reason. This is the most he’s played 3rd since he was in A Ball.
Either that or the Dodger minor league’s are run idiots and that is possible.
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Belly is pretty much
limited to playing 2nd base defense. Joke at 1st base, not so hot at 3rd base. So really he’s a 2nd baseman.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Yeah....no
First of all, how would having Mitchell on the bench change the quality of a Loney injury replacement? Mtichell would probably replace Loney anyways. Or someone comparable.
Second, a bench of Hu, Ellis, Mitchell, Blake, and Hoffman would be by far the most flexible bench the Dodgers have had in years.
Assuming you mean Carroll instead of Blake, that’s no better than what we have now.
by regfairfield on Aug 12, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Here is the sort of roster I would want, it is vary roster flexible
Vs. Righties
Furcal
Carroll
Ethier
Beltre( just an example)
Loney
Kemp
Paul
Martin
Bench:
Ellis(backup catcher)
Hu(middle infielder)
Hoffman(right handed platoon partner with Paul/backup centerfielder)
Mitchell(right handed Loney platoon partner/ backup corner infielder)
Hm I wrote more, that's weird
Blake( right handed platoon partner with Ethier in left/ backup at 1st, 3rd, and the corner outfield)
Against a left handed starter, Loney, Ethier, and Paul swap with Mitchell, Blake, and Hoffman respectively.
You have put some work
into this. Instead of letting it get buried in a comment section, create a fanpost so it can have a life of it’s own.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Quit that shit. If you make a suggestion, expect people to analyze the entire suggestion.
by Michael White on Aug 12, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
The point is that we need to platoon Loney
The guy is as bad at hitting lefties as they come. Yes I would be quite confident that Lindsey and Mitchell would be able to handle left handed mlb pitching better than Loney. Is the fact that Mitchell plays at AAA a very strong counter argument? No, because it fails to address the fact that almost anyone hits lefties better than loney
I think
Ethier was worse against them last year, not sure about this year.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
No, because it fails to address the fact that almost anyone hits lefties better than loney
James Loney, career against LHP: .266/.328/.390
2010 MLB against LHP: .258/.330/.399
by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Eric Eric Eric
is that LH 1st baseman?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I’m sorry, I thought you said “almost anyone.”
Also, that search takes way too long for me to do right now.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Uncle Google my ass
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
by Ivdown on Aug 12, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ryan Howard
I win!
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
I don’t understand, now you do want to debate the merits of Mitchell being the platoon partner, because when nolander questioned it you told him to back off
by Michael White on Aug 12, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm weighing my hands right now
one hand: 9 PA
other hand: 3 years out of baseball
by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Sometimes it is
but I’m board with giving Russell Mitchell at shot against LHP in a platoon at 3rd base with DeWitt….
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
At my age that is the only kind of blows
I can get in before my ass is kicked.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
!!!!
But no one ever listens to 4Down..
Damnit, now I’m calling myself 4Down.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
we listen
but most people here tell you to go back to the kids table and finish your peas
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
where an evil genius
is waiting to make up more nicknames for you : p
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 12, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I still haven’t seen any good ones with my super-lame middle name, so I’m kinda dissapointed with you, Ms. Evil Genius :P
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Oh I already forgot it
what was it Melvin? Merkin?
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 12, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
OMG
You should think about joining supergroup The Melvins! You’re already a Melvin, it’s perfect.
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 12, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm really not sure what you are talking about, lol
Is this some kind of nerdy reference? I’m only kind of a nerd :P
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Dude, you aren't familiar with the Melvins?!
Track down “Gluey Porch Treatments”, “Bullhead”, and “A Senile Animal”! STAT!
Josie
you need to promise to be good.
Seriously, promise me you’ll be good. ;)
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll be good!
Am I normally not —
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 12, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes
I’ll be so good.
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 12, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
(now we just need someone to ask what the hell I’m making you say.)
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
He made me promise to be good!
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 12, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
BTW
did I tell you I finished them all?
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah
I think I said something about the books defining 20 somethings of this generation, but will never be given the reverence of a Great Gatsby
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 12, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
of course not
there are pictures.
Comics as a medium probably won’t ever be really taken seriously.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Maus was taken seriously
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Aug 12, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Dude
isn’t there a rule about using the Holocaust in arguments?
But yes Maus did get a lot of literary respect
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 12, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
there should be
but most comic books probably aren’t seen as a medium like a novel would be. Same for animation. Some ideas would be so great done as animation, but because the attitude is “cartoons are for kids” it’s never really thought of.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
There are the beginnings of
an academic push. For example, I found Scott Pilgrim while browsing Cal’s graphic novel section in the main library, which has your Dark Knight Returns and your Ghost Worlds
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 12, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Never read Ghost World
But looooooved the movie. In my top 10 of the decade.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Aug 12, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually, that was what Fitzgerald originally considered calling the book: The Freaking Great Gatsby. But Zelda got him drunk, and Hemingway talked him out of it.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Aug 12, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Am I normally not —
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 12, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
they're both good
(gives him a sticker of grapes that says “Grape Job.”)
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
BTW
If it was supposed to Roman Numbers, why isn’t the “V” capitalized? Wouldnt’ that make it more clear?
by Michael White on Aug 12, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Parsing 4Down's username
is not recommended.
That way madness lies.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Aug 12, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
IVdown
Damn straight, look how easy that is.
Simple solution. Ban Ivdown, create new identity with no baggage of his past.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Hmm. I am looking for my first oppurtunity to use the ban.
by Michael White on Aug 12, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I fear
the slippery slope leading to all the prattling kids being banned : )
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 12, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
We wouldn't have to create new threads every four hours
Hey is Maddz flying today with super feline?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
she
was getting on the plane a few hours ago, apparently she had to take the cat out of the kennel when walking through security, freaked the cat out.
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 12, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Hope she used a sedative
all my cats would have tried to shred me.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
The kitty is flying sober
hense the freaking
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 12, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I couldn't post my last comment for some reason
and then I read this comment, I’m sure you can see where my mind wandered :P
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Cheaper to do a platoon
with a Lacy/Lowenstien then spending the money on a Andre. I always thought teams who went platoon were the one’s without money.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
That’s for two average/crappy guys. Platooning Dre would be more like Pujols/crappy and other guy.
by regfairfield on Aug 12, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
It is for players not good enough to start every day
if they where good enough to start every day they wouldn’t need a platoon.
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
Well yeah, but making the Ethier/whoever platoon costs a hell of a lot more than Gomes/Dickserson.
by regfairfield on Aug 12, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
that's true.
I would propose a Ethier/Blake platoon in left, a Paul/Hoffman platoon in right, and a Loney/Mitchell platoon at 1st. Though if we could trade for Gaby Sanchez he would be the perfect Loney platoon partner.
I would expect
bad things from Blake in left
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
Worse than Manny?
Left is easier to play and less important than 3rd in any case. The defense would be improved as a whole.
not easier to play for someone who is old and can’t run
by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Blake would still do less damage in left than he would if we keep him at third
I am not optimistic about his ability to stick there next year. He is already a negative now.
He'd do even less damage on the bench
which is where I think he ends up by June. Dodgers piece together a third baseman with pipe cleaners, wax, and the used pages of 4Down’s coloring book.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Aug 12, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes
but platooning takes money out of the mouths of players and so is frowned upon by agents. Is there any baseball reason why Ryan Howard plays against LHP? Or Andre?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 12, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Nobody is going to pay big money for someone they think can’t play against a certain hand.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes
but platooning takes money out of the mouths of players and so is frowned upon by agents. Is there any baseball reason why Ryan Howard plays against LHP? Or Andre?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Andre more then James
and it has been talked about here just not as much as how Kemp it always being disrespected which seems to be the topic of the day every day. Never seen a .315 OBP get disrespected so much. The shame.
Players are babies and once established hard for pussy managers to do the complete platoon thing. Weaver didn’t care but he did it with players who knew their roles not with guys who think they are stars.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
To the probably annoyance of some
I’m a stickler for how people say things, not what they say. For example, my dad, every 8 days or so, regales us with his plan for a 1 v 8 style CFB playoff.
Except it’s not his plan, he’s just repeating something some ESPN pundit said, over and over again. It gets annoying. Same rule apply here.
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 12, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd rather the moderators decide what is annoying but that is just me
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Just curious what you mean
What mess did I create? Or do you mean TBLA?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Absent something huge, you ain’t getting banned.
You’re grandfathered in…
by Michael White on Aug 12, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
because he had a beer with us? or did he?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
We all only had one beer
I’m as lightweight as they come. I just couldn’t remember if you had actually had one or not.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
You guys gotta
start drinking a fifth of gin every time the Dodgers lose. Builds the tolerance I tell you what.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Aug 12, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I drink alone, yeah, with nobody else.
I drink alone, yeah, with nobody else.
Yeah, you know when I drink alone, I prefer to be by myself.
Now, every morning, just before breakfast,
I don’t want no coffee or tea.
Just me and my good buddy Weiser.
That’s all I ever need.
Cause I drink alone, yeah, with nobody else.
I drink alone, yeah, with nobody else.
Yeah, you know when I drink alone, I prefer to be by myself.
Now, the other night I lay sleeping,
And I woke from a terrible dream.
So I called up my pal, Jack Daniels,
And his partner Jimmy Beam.
And we drank alone, yeah, with nobody else.
We drank alone, yeah, with nobody else.
Yeah, you know when I drink alone, I prefer to be by myself.
Well, the other night I got invited to a party,
But I stayed home instead.
Just me and my pal Johnny Walker,
And his brothers Black and Red.
And we drank alone, yeah, with nobody else.
We drank alone, yeah, with nobody else.
Yeah, you know when I drink alone, I prefer to be by myself.
Well, my whole family done give up on me,
And it makes me feel so bad.
The only one who’ll hang out with me
Is my dear old Granddad.
And we drink alone, yeah, with nobody else.
We drink alone, yeah, with nobody else.
Yeah, you know when I drink alone, I prefer to be by myself.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 12, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's right
I do ALL my drinking at home alone.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Aug 12, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
He bought what he thought was steak but it ended up being ground beef. He didn’t hit the three-sausage jackpot like I did.
I should probably rework that last sentence.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
We scored on our snack
I felt sorry for him, I would have eaten it myself but the bratwurst filled me up.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I bet it did
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
You did nothing wrong so don't sweat it.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I'm just uppity
no need to heed anything I say really
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 12, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
for reals?
will they have to make it up later?
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
the current 25 man has a salary of about 61 million. current production equals that.
My first game http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/LAN/LAN198604280.shtml
I wish our 61 Million production equaled the Tampa Bay 61 Million production
then again, they have their own troubles. Offense is also less then impressive since Zobrist came back to earth and Longoria is a mere mortal.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
+1
Considering Zobrist was really close to being put in the 4A class. That Young/Garza trade is fucking sick.
Why is James Loney not batting 3rd?!
Smarter
and they had a ton of drafts with high picks because they sucked for so long. I would be curious to see what Logan White could have done with those picks. Other then that I would agree about them being smarter.
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
I dont think White would want that pick every year. He loves finding that diamond in the rough in the mid first round.
Why is James Loney not batting 3rd?!
Its possible that is his strength
but who is to say he couldn’t find some diamond’s in the rough at the top of the 2nd eh?
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
I fear
That we will be losing White’s services in the near future unless we get a new owner. There is no way he can be happy about no being able to sign picks and being on the cheapest draft budget of all time.
That’s his job.
Having enough money to sign the “unsignable” would mean anybody could do it.
by Michael White on Aug 12, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Dude come on. You’re really going to make that argument? There’s a big difference between having money to “sign the unsignable” vs. being on the tightest budget of all time (as someone posted in the first post of this thread)
Maybe you’re right though. Maybe he sees it as a challenge.
I’ll absolutely make that argument. He’s the head of scouting for an MLB team. If he whines about his lack of a budget I could care less. There’s only so many baseball teams out there.
by Michael White on Aug 12, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Its not like I would expect him to just quit and retire, but he’s one of the most respected scouts/assistant GM’s in the game. If he gets an offer to go somewhere where the FO isn’t dysfunctional and doesn’t tell him to punt picks, then I wouldn’t be surprised to see him take it.
That’s a lot of “if’s”.
Okay, if all that happens, and if the McCourts don’t sell the team, then I wouldn’t be suprised to see him take it either.
And I’ll get over it.
by Michael White on Aug 12, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Its one “if”. Right now there are 29 other baseball teams committing more money to scouting and player development.
If we don’t get a new owner, If he gets an offer, if the FO isn’t dysfunctional and IF the team doesn’t tell him to punt picks than you wouldn’t be surprised to see him take it.
by Michael White on Aug 12, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Using that method
I think you should count the full season salary (i.e. Lilly $12m, Dotel $3.25m, Theriot $2.6m, etc)
by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
A-gon
bunted his way out of the shift yesterday.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Danica McKellar(Wonder Years) is voicing a character on the new Young Justice cartoon. A Martian girl named Ms. Martian.

pretty cool!
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 12, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm assuming he will be the "leader"
which has typically been Dick
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
from the positioning
looks more like Conner Kent/Superboy.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Interesting
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
I bet he dies
and Robin takes over leadership. Just wait
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
I have a hard time
picturing Jon Weisman reading comic books.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I don't know Jon Weisman well enough to say either way
but I think the world of comic book nerds and baseball stat nerds probably has a fairly large intersection(cross demographic?)
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
by nolander on Aug 12, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I do know Jon, which is why I can make that comment.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
So what about us comic book readers
makes you say that?
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
I've read his writing and comments
for six years and don’t recall him using any comic book references.
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Its always Robin/Nightwing
Superboy will probably be like the co-leader, but when it comes to coming up with plans and shit it will be Robin
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
Wow, he developed "Gargoyles"
Easily one of my favorite cartoons growing up.
by Julio Nievas on Aug 12, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey at least your brother knows someone is watching
though I don’t think Tripon is the demographic they are looking to reach
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
No, I'm going to teach the demographic they want to reach.
Actually, the kids I’m looking to teach will still probably too old. More like I’m teaching the kids who have little siblings that they want to reach.
They didn't want to make another show called Teen Titans?
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
Is speedy going to be the go to
for the eventual drug special episode?
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
by nolander on Aug 12, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'd really like to trade Kemp for Mike Stanton right now
That’d be sweet, lol.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Dodgers could have drafted Mike Stanton if they wanted to. He dropped to the 2nd round when the Dodgers have a late first round, (Chris Withrow) and supplemental pick. (James Adkins). Also, they gave up a first rounder for signing Jason Schimdt.
when
is the last time the Dodgers drafted and signed a hitter in the first round?
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Adkins really blows
especially since Stanton was a local kid.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
On DodgerTalk after Stanton hit a homer in Dodgers Stadium
A woman claimed that a local Dodger scout actually brought Stanton to work out in Dodger Stadium. I have no idea what they saw in Adkins made him the pick over a player like Stanton.
I want a freaking first round hitter, that’s pretty much what I’ve been craving for years now.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Let me tell you about this “Blake DeWitt”
by regfairfield on Aug 12, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Ask him for a 1st round college hitter
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
fuck that noise. We had our chance.
Kemp at least can play shitty Defense in CF and steal a base every 3 weeks..
Stanton just hits monster HRs and Ks
Why is James Loney not batting 3rd?!
After struggling when he first came up, Stanton has put up an OPS over 1.000 the last month with a terrific k:bb ratio. Unfortunately, Kemp needs to put up a month like that for his year to look decent.
by UCLADodger32 on Aug 12, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
.366 wOBA so far
I love Kemp…but Stanton…if I could take any prospect from the start of this year (including strasburg), I’d take Stanton.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Me too. They’re both special, but I think Heyward will be the one of the 3 best players in baseball in the next few years.
by UCLADodger32 on Aug 12, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
The thing is
both teams should be really proud of their scouting departments.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
The Braves have had an amazing system for a while. Just imagine if they still had Feliz and Andrus instead of a half year (or however long it was) of Tex.
I sort of feel like the Marlins are in a league of their own in terms of scouting and development. For them to keep producing stars and stay competitive with that payroll is mind blowing.
by UCLADodger32 on Aug 12, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
The top 5 - 7 guys in the Braves system
are looking really good too. They look poised for another long run at the top.
It just never stops
Freeman, Minor next year.
They gave away everything for Teixeira and they didn’t miss a beat. Still think they made a terrible trade with Escobar for Gonzalez. I suspect their scouting director hates Wren as much as Logan (just projecting) hates Ned.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
When in doubt, I go with the local kid.
by Michael White on Aug 12, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I would take Travis Snyder over Kemp too.
If were talking about trading a RF for a CF
Why is James Loney not batting 3rd?!
You do know that Kemp had a 6 win season last year, correct? Snider is a DH.
by UCLADodger32 on Aug 12, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
5.8 or 6 on BRef, dont remember. Whatever it was, it will be better than any season Snider has in his career.
by UCLADodger32 on Aug 12, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Snider is good
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=2830&position=OF
But he’s got no real plate discipline. I’ll take Kemp over him right now.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
I know its a SSS
But he takes more walks than Matt and Ks the same.
Why is James Loney not batting 3rd?!
in 110 games? That's quite the sample size you've got there.
Also with a .329 OBP career.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
As Ucla said he's a DH
he’s going to have to be one hell of a hitter to make up for it. And while he might become that guy, he’s not someone I’d be trading Kemp for. Then again I hate DH’s so I’m biased.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I think he'd likely be next on my list
But something about Stanton intrigues me.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Lakers signed Devin Ebanks today
He won’t see much time and will probably be in the D-league. Hopefully Caracter will sign soon and the roster will be set
by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 12, 2010 1:38 PM PDT reply actions
Cubs tack on a run, 3-1 Cubbies now
… as Matt Cain just gave up a 2 out double to the pitcher Randy Wells. Cubs still batting.
That was partially result of Dave Flemming jinxing it
by saying Hill can’t hit (so he gets a hit) and then basically “no biggie, pitcher’s up” (pitcher gets an RBI hit).
ThenBurrell hits another frickin home run and makes it 3-2.
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Platoon Talk
where nitpicking meets the right end of the page
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I can't comment
I’ve never seen Platoon. Wall Street, sure. And Born on the Fourth of July. Lots of Ohis movies. But never Platoon.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Aug 12, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Raining in Philly btw, as per Dylan H
Not sure if it’s supposed to clear by game time.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Well
I have bogged down the hell out of this thread. Till 4 o’clock fellers
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
Pat Burrell carrying the Giants
Grand slam 7-3 Giants.
by Alex41592 on Aug 12, 2010 2:32 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
9 home runs since joining them June 5
more than any Dodger (Furcal 8, Kemp & Ethier 7)
by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Tampa Bay says fuck him and the ride he came in on
he gives Craig some nasty ammunition about the quality of AL East pitching and NL pitching.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Ya think the thread
boggs down, the more we go right sided?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
[witty comment about needing more left handed threads]
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
I stop reading once the paragraphs get too small.. too weird.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Aug 12, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Cubs attempting to come back
7-5 Giants. Top 8. Cubs have runners at 2nd and 3rd with nobody out.
Just found out
4 of the 5 guys in the hiring process were pulling for me yesterday. Booooooooo
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 12, 2010 3:24 PM PDT reply actions
You needed five?
I’ve skipped a few threads, did I miss how you came out?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Yea, apparently the one counted. It was for a help desk level 1/2 position. I have been trying to get my foot in the door for IT vocation, and this looked like my best opportunity to date. The 2 interviews went great. They apparently talked about it half the day and went with the other choice. It is actually my buddies job and he just told me that the 4 actual IT people involved thought I was the best choice. It is nice to hear, but it still sucks.
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 12, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Damn, hard to please five
sorry about that.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
me too, but thanks. I am hoping to get some good feedback from the supervisor of the job so I can know what my next best step should be.
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 12, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Tempting…but I am not as attractive as her.
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 12, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
He would have to be I think. He was in on the 2nd interview…my boss had called him to tell him she thought I was awesome, and he sat in the whole interview without asking a single question. Makes me think he already made his mind up before meeting with me in that setting
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 12, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Sounds like he had someone else in mind
find out if the new hire had some connection with him.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
at this point I just want to move on, but that would be interesting. I thought I had the connection ha!
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 12, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100812/ap_on_sp_ba_ne/bbn_mets_rodriguez_assault
Dang, that little episode could cost him $125,000, if the union does not step in. Hope it was worth it, has to be an interesting backdrop for him to go off like that.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
literally my least favorite save celebration
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 12, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Eh
Im John Lackey takes the cake.
Why is James Loney not batting 3rd?!
by NotJoeTorre on Aug 12, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
If that was the case, The Dodgers would be in 1st.
“Maybe it’s a distraction we need,” Francoeur said. “Not to say it’s a good thing. But maybe at the end of the day we can turn it into a positive. I know for him, it’s between him and his family.”
Why is James Loney not batting 3rd?!
Is there a way to post jpegs from your hardrive
or just links to image locations on the web?
upload it to somewhere like imgur
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
is it natural to want to look in a toilet stall that has been posted as “out of order”
My first game http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/LAN/LAN198604280.shtml
come on
do i look like those guys?
My first game http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/LAN/LAN198604280.shtml
You werent at the bar after….
My first game http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/LAN/LAN198604280.shtml
That bar in that neighborhood is the perfect storm for you.
by Michael White on Aug 12, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
i was uncomfortable for many reasons
My first game http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/LAN/LAN198604280.shtml
The worse waitress I've been waited on
but the girls had plenty of quality about them.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
You seemed pretty happy
about being kinda blocked in there near the end of the night.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Sorry about that
I think that was the picante dog I had earlier
by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
men eating sausages
darkness
phony accent on waitress
only german beers
hipsters
My first game http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/LAN/LAN198604280.shtml
by delias man on Aug 12, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ha! I told Phil the accent was phony too!
by Michael White on Aug 12, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Sausage is great. No reason to shy away from this fact.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s pretty spectacular. .815 OPS for a 20 year old SS.
by UCLADodger32 on Aug 12, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
7-7 Cubs and SF 8^. Castro with RBI single to tie it up
by Dodgermanramon on Aug 12, 2010 3:31 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
FUCKudome
7-7 going to the bottom of the 8th
I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.
That bullpens suck, and I hate them
It’s the “Xeifrank Irrational Theorem of Baseball”
XITB. Pronounced shit-b.
LOLribe
Marshall just made him look like a punk
I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.
Ouch
Nasty curve by Marshall… Going to the 9th
I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.

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