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Dodgers Blow Seven-Run Eighth-Inning Lead, Lose To Phillies

The Dodgers bullpen got the necessary signatures required to submit another candidate for worst loss of the season, turning a 9-2 lead in the eighth inning into a stunning, soul-crushing 10-9 loss in Philadelphia. The tying and winning runs were driven in by none other than noted Dodger killer Carlos Ruiz, who is hitting .354/.466/.542 against them in his career.

Clayton Kershaw allowed just two runs in his 6 2/3 innings of work. He didn't walk any of the first 26 batters he faced, but back-to-back walks to Shane Victorino and Jimmy Rollins with two outs in the seventh inning brought the hook from Joe Torre. In his last 18 starts, Kershaw has walked 3.01 and struck out 9.10 batters per nine innings.

The Dodgers came out of the gates early today, scoring three runs in the first inning off Blanton, taking advantage with four hits and two walks. The Phillies crept closer with single runs in the second and fourth innings, but the Dodgers tacked on another run in the fifth thanks in part to a magnificent slide by Ryan Theriot. He was on third base with one out when Ronnie Belliard lined a ball to left fielder Raul Ibanez. The Tilde made a strong throw home but Theriot was able to maneuver his way around Carlos Ruiz and touch home plate with his hand in drive-by, or slide-by fashion.

The Dodgers added three runs in the top of the eighth inning, to pad their lead to a comfortable 9-2 cushion. But that's when things got interesting.

Ronald Belisario started the eighth inning, his second appearance since be activated from the restricted list. However, he did not retire a single batter, giving up three singles up the middle and a booming double to Ben Francisco, with a comical balk mixed in between. With Jayson Werth on first base, Belisario faked to third base before wheeling and faking to first. However, since nobody was on third base, MLB Rule 8.05 (d) came into play:

If there is a runner, or runners, it is a balk when --

The pitcher, while touching his plate, throws, or feints a throw to an unoccupied base, except for the purpose of making a play;

After four straight hits, Belisario was lifted in favor of Kenley Jansen, making his first ever appearance in the middle of an inning. Jansen got one out, on a tremendous diving stab by Casey Blake, then allowed another single up the middle to drive home the inherited run. George Sherrill was brought in, and retired both lefties he faced -- Domonic Brown and Ibanez -- with a walk to Rollins sandwiched in between.

The Dodgers still held a 9-6 lead going into the ninth inning, but Jonathan Broxton was terrible in the ninth inning, throwing only 10 of his 22 pitches for strikes. He hit Placido Polanco to begin the frame, then walked Mike Sweeney. After the walk to Sweeney, Torre visited the mound, imploring Broxton to "trust his stuff," but the pep talk didn't work, as Broxton walked Jayson Werth, too.

Ben Francisco followed with what should have been a double play ball, but it went right through the legs of Casey Blake, allowing two runs to score. Broxton then allowed the game-ending double to Ruiz, sealing the Dodgers fate.

Notes

  • Scott Podsednik had two more hits and a walk tonight, and ended up reaching base eight times in 16 plate appearances in the series, with seven hits and a walk.
  • Kemp now leads the club with 19 home runs and is second to James Loney with 67 runs batted in
  • The ninth inning tonight featured Broxton unable to record an out, and Danys Baez facing the minimum three batters
  • No, this isn't the worst late lead over the Phillies ever blown by the Dodgers. On August 21, 1990, the Dodgers held an 11-1 lead in the eighth inning, but lost 12-11

Hiroki Kuroda faces Tim Hudson to open the four-game wraparound series in Atlanta

WP - Danys Baez (3-3):  1 IP, 1 hit

LP - Jonathan Broxton (4-4): 0 IP, 1 hit, 4 runs (3 earned), 2 walks, 1 HBP

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are you fucking kidding me?

I still cant believe it.

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Aug 12, 2010 8:04 PM PDT reply actions  

I was fuming, but just laughing bitterly now

LOLgers

I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.

by angelofdeath on Aug 12, 2010 8:05 PM PDT reply actions  

if you aren’t laughing bitterly all the time, don’t post on tbla

(joking)

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by dingers on Aug 12, 2010 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

how long did that 8th inning last??

6 hours??

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Aug 12, 2010 8:07 PM PDT reply actions  

I could've spent my time better

Watching flies fuck

I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.

by angelofdeath on Aug 12, 2010 8:08 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

or paint dry

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Aug 12, 2010 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Season like this

someone has to get fired. Thems the breaks. Torre’s gonna get the “MLB respects the hell out of you” treatment and walk off into the sunset, so who do the Dodgers place the blame on and thus sack?

How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?

by Josie Becker on Aug 12, 2010 8:09 PM PDT reply actions  

The rest of the coaching staff

or……………………………………………………………………………………………………..Ned?

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Aug 12, 2010 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kemp

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Aug 12, 2010 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kudos to Kemp, he stepped it up tonight

when he got up at third base, he completely avoided Bowa

So Fire Bowa

by 68elcamino427 on Aug 12, 2010 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm in shock right now

Absolute shock.

I’m glad I didn’t watch, I’d have blown my god damn brain out.

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 12, 2010 8:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah

I just noticed that

I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.

by angelofdeath on Aug 12, 2010 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are right

I had Kershaw as the winning pitcher as a placeholder :(

Fixing…

by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2010 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mark Timmons

over at LA Dodger Talk is spot on…Broxton SUCKS!!!! He should lose his job.
It doesn’t help that Blake blew a DP grounder, but still.
Lets see what Jansen can do…..season is over.

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by Ray Guilfoyle on Aug 12, 2010 8:10 PM PDT reply actions  

I disagree with your opening line

by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2010 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

But the headline is too long

Eric is a class act otherwise the headline is “Fuck My Life”.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Aug 12, 2010 8:10 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

When is the last time the Dodgers were up by as many as 7 runs in the 8th inning and lost? Was it all the way back to the 1990 phillies game?

by Joey Joe on Aug 12, 2010 8:12 PM PDT reply actions  

I know this is overreaction

But trade Broxton. He’s still got a crap load of value, get what we can for him now prospects wise and get him out of here. He’s gonna be too much in 2 seasons to keep anyway, trade him now while his value is still as high as it is (it goes down if we wait till next trade deadline, which we really wouldn’t do anyway).

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 12, 2010 8:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Brox is too big to clear waivers

by megaballs on Aug 12, 2010 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Would have been a good idea at this trade deadline...

along with a few other players… but no, we needed Pods, Lilly, Theriot, and Dotel!

My twitter = @neufaustcan

by uclatroy on Aug 12, 2010 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

The offseason is when it could be done. He could bring in a lot.

by Alex41592 on Aug 12, 2010 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think a trade to Atlanta makes a lot of sense.

by Alex41592 on Aug 12, 2010 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Billy Wagner is having a great year though.
They may bring him back again if he isnt already signed for next year.

by Joey Joe on Aug 12, 2010 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it’s a club option for 2011 but he’ll be 40.

by Alex41592 on Aug 12, 2010 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Billy Wagner insists he’s retiring after this year, no matter how well he’s pitching.

People don't think it be like this, but it do.

by MartinGreen on Aug 12, 2010 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

obviously, something is wrong with Broxton
having a real hard time
will he be looking at a big raise at this rate?

by 68elcamino427 on Aug 12, 2010 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Btw

I was thinking this offseason, not now (though I made no indication of it).

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 12, 2010 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I said this in the last thread. You cant do it now, but its possible during the winter. He’s going to start getting expensive, and its clear he aint Mariano. Get what you can for him (hopefully a good offensive prospect) and let Jansen and Kuo take the 9th inning. Obviously it will hurt the pen, but if done right, should help the team.

by UCLADodger32 on Aug 12, 2010 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Average teams should always practice the ‘sell the closer’ method.

by Joey Joe on Aug 12, 2010 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

And unfortunately, that be us right now.

by UCLADodger32 on Aug 12, 2010 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would still gamble on him for the first half of next season. I don’t see the Dodgers seriously contending next year, but if Broxton can have a strong first half he could land a serious haul at the trade deadline.

by prosellis on Aug 12, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

This team isn't going to win this or next year

Trade him for prospects.

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 12, 2010 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm thinking he has more than two years in him

Oh yeah, Mccourt is a cheap bastard, I get you, we should trade for a prospect that we’ll use to get back CAsey Blake to play for a 1/3 of a season. RIGHT ON!!!!

by Cool Dudes on Aug 12, 2010 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

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by Ray Guilfoyle on Aug 12, 2010 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

If they do, they wait till the offseason

If you think about it, we have 4 guys who could close… Broxton, Kuo, Belisario and Jansen. However, Kuo can’t be a closer, and what do we really have with Belisario? Do we hand Jansen the closing job already? I doubt it… look for the trade deadline, if at all

by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Aug 12, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't be so pissed...

if this team didn’t decide that they were ****ing buyers at the deadline.

My twitter = @neufaustcan

by uclatroy on Aug 12, 2010 8:13 PM PDT reply actions  

they didn’t buy much

by 68elcamino427 on Aug 12, 2010 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

… but spent more than it was worth, like rookie tourists in Tijuana.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Aug 12, 2010 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

All

rec’d

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Aug 12, 2010 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its games like these

where I feel bad for McCourt. He’ll get a ton of blame this offseason, but its the players that really underperformed this year

by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 12, 2010 8:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Sorry but Mccourt doesn't get a pass

Dipshit started the year without 5 starters and a full bullpen and no bench.

Tried to do it on the cheap and failed. Fuckwad (Mccourt).

by Cool Dudes on Aug 12, 2010 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Im not saying McCourt doesnt deserve some blame

because he does. . whether its offering Wolf arbitration or offering all these deferred payments. However, I dont blame the Dodgers for trying to go in house for the 5th starter position. It’s not McCourt’s fault McDonald and Elbert did not step up and take the roll. It’s not his fault Sherrill has fell of the face of the planet from his last years success. McCourt committed 4.5 million or so to Sherrill, and hes proved hes not worth half of that. This team has atleast 5 WTF loses. . otherwise wed be right in the thick of the wildcard race

by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 12, 2010 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I disagree this team is +11 runs for the YEAR (2/3 done)

With the performance to date, we are where we should be: average. Granted, I don’t think this team with a healthy Manny is average, but every year some of your pitchers are going to not be as good as next year, you just don’t know who, so you need to start with a full stock, and then let the kids fill in the gaps.

by Cool Dudes on Aug 12, 2010 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

this is a .500 team
it is what it is

by 68elcamino427 on Aug 12, 2010 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Broxton

LOL FAT

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by angelofdeath on Aug 12, 2010 8:14 PM PDT reply actions  

This is the end, beautiful friend, of our elaborate plan, the end

We are so close to burning down the house we’ve built the last few years
Torre quits at year end
Martin DFA
Manny gone
Kemp tradebait?
Billz,Brox,Ethier, Loney all getting closer to FA

by megaballs on Aug 12, 2010 8:19 PM PDT reply actions  

I'll say it again

Dodgers don’t have any problems money can’t fix.

They have a fine core, just need the $$$ to fill in the holes.

Pray for messy divorce ending quickly with team selling to someone who actually want to run a major market MLB team and doesn’t mind spending some money to make some money.

by Cool Dudes on Aug 12, 2010 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

At the end of this year, they’re going to need at last six quality free agent signings. Even if there was money to spend, that’s a lot of quality guys to find all at once:

1) OF
2) 3B
3) 3 starting pitchers
4) Catcher

The problem is more than money, and it’s going to take more than one winter to fix it.

People don't think it be like this, but it do.

by MartinGreen on Aug 12, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well they can always sign the guys on the roster right now

but yeah, OF and 3B are a problem, but that’s only two guys if they sign there players already on the roster.

by Cool Dudes on Aug 12, 2010 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Casey Blake is a good #7/8 hitter, but from a position that almost mandates high offensive production, he just doesn’t cut it if you have to hit him any higher in the lineup. My pint/opinion being, Casey Blake is a non-issue if you can use your pieces to upgrade elsewhere.

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by G.Scott on Aug 12, 2010 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

right now Casey Blake is a bench player

unless you’ve got Mauer at catcher and Uggla at 2nd to make up for it… unfortunately another year of Ryan Theriot and talking Brad Ausmus out of retirement is not going to do the trick

by lchristmas on Aug 13, 2010 6:23 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Bring on Fight Songs

 and Gameday and all of that stuff!

by keithc13 on Aug 12, 2010 8:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Four months ago, you called me mad.... mad!... for thinking the team would be in the wilderness next year.

If there are any of you optimists left, please talk me off the ledge. Please tell me that next year won’t be as bad as all that. Right now, it’s lookin pretty bad.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 12, 2010 8:21 PM PDT reply actions  

It’s all over just jump already.

by Alex41592 on Aug 12, 2010 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

GERONIMO!!

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splat.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 12, 2010 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

My only theory for next year not being as bad is that the Padres/Giants cant possibly be as good next year.

Now, the Dodgers wont be either…but I think next year maybe 85 wins will get the division.

by Joey Joe on Aug 12, 2010 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wasn't everyone pissed we didn't get any starting pitching and didn't try to restock the farm by at least risking keeping decent baseball players like Wolf and Hudson?

Maybe too much optimism in the young guys, but among realist, I think we all knew it was a long shot to win the whole thing, I just think a lot of us thought they would at least compete for NL West championship. I think we can now see, (without Manny at least) that the Dodgers Pythag percentage this year is true.

by Cool Dudes on Aug 12, 2010 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

To be clear

I thought this year’s team would be good enough to compete — maybe make it, maybe not — but be in the thick of things. It was next year’s team, the ’11 and ’12 clubs, that I got grief for.

And I’m saying now, please, somebody convince me I’m wrong.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 12, 2010 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’re brilliant.

by Alex41592 on Aug 12, 2010 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry, didn’t mean to come off like that. I’ll back off.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 12, 2010 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

No sarcasm. Humma is brilliant. This is a problem that will destroy us all.

You have to hide it by speaking like this.

Wat the hek Bracksten! You cluz lik a ful! Has the dan curtezy to luz 6 to 3!

by Alex41592 on Aug 12, 2010 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's times like these that I think of Frankie Carbone

when Tommy shoots Spider.

Nice Fucking game. Nice fucking game.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Aug 12, 2010 8:22 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Great scene.

“I thought you said I’m alright Spida.”

by keithc13 on Aug 12, 2010 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sin City is on

one of the movie channels. The hell is this movie about?

How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?

by Josie Becker on Aug 12, 2010 8:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Which one???

I love this movie.

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 12, 2010 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

HDNet Movies

How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?

by Josie Becker on Aug 12, 2010 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmm

Not sure I have that channel. Do you have Dish?

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 12, 2010 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm all Dished out

tons of options, all of them premium

basic Dish sucks donkey ball

How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?

by Josie Becker on Aug 12, 2010 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like it

No problems for me.

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 12, 2010 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

BBC America, Fox Soccer Channel, Bravo, AMC are all outside of the basic package. WTF mate!

How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?

by Josie Becker on Aug 12, 2010 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Watch it

It’s a great movie. Tarantino’s amazing.

by Connector on Aug 12, 2010 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

First fucking call on Dodger Talk is STILL HARPING ABOUT BUNTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2010 8:23 PM PDT reply actions  

WTF?

Someone needs to fucking hit this person.

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 12, 2010 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Broxton tried to but missed location.

by Alex41592 on Aug 12, 2010 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

someone is gonna somehow blame Kemp for the loss

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Aug 12, 2010 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

i dont understand how sane people can listen to that show. It’s like the Dodgers.com message boards through your radio.

by UCLADodger32 on Aug 12, 2010 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

What a difference a year makes

Last year, the bullpen was light’s out. With the same guys, too. Broxton was unhittable. Belisario was dependable. So was Troncoso. And Kuo…thank God he hasn’t changed.

by Connector on Aug 12, 2010 8:24 PM PDT reply actions  

or maybe it's 2008

whichever year it was, the bullpen was invincible then

by Connector on Aug 12, 2010 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

2009

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Aug 12, 2010 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is like the Yankee game

We do everything right except close the fucking game!!!

I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.

by angelofdeath on Aug 12, 2010 8:24 PM PDT reply actions  

That was Kershaw's start too

I thought the bullpen had stopped fucking with Kershaw, but I think he slept with one of their wives so they decided to get back at him just like last year by blowing every game they can for him, lol.

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 12, 2010 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

why wasn’t Monk in the game with a 7 run lead? isn’t that the textbook definition of the mop up/ blow out guy? why are we bringing in a guy who’s just coming back from battling his demons?

by raj m on Aug 12, 2010 8:25 PM PDT reply actions  

That’s the same rationale for using Belisario

by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2010 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, ideally that’s exactly when you would want to use Belisario.

by Alex41592 on Aug 12, 2010 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Dotel was warming the bus up

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Aug 12, 2010 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Torre wanted to help Bellisario return to form

cant blame him for that with a 7 run lead but he definitely left him in too long.

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Aug 12, 2010 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

MLB Network is showing the August 1990 game now

by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2010 8:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Tommy on the Slim-Fast then.

by Alex41592 on Aug 12, 2010 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember those were the days of not always televised games, and I got updates via Headline Sports at 20 and 50 past the hour.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2010 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

on your beeper?

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Aug 12, 2010 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha!

Nope. I was visiting my cousin, and I remember being stunned at the score updates.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2010 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

that’s how I “watched” this game from the 8th inning on.

by Michael White on Aug 12, 2010 8:30 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

This

listening to the silky smooth Van Earl Wright

by keithc13 on Aug 12, 2010 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

good thing I dont have cable

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Aug 12, 2010 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was at that game. I remember it clearly.

I was 8 years old. My Dad and I actually left in the 8th inning, assuming the game was over. I fell asleep in the car. Woke up the next morning and looked at the LA times to check out the final boxscore of what I thought was a great Dodgers victory that I attended.

I think it was the first WTF moment of my life. I remember thinking, I’m never leaving a game early again. Maybe if I had stayed, they wouldn’t have blown it.

by BFDC on Aug 13, 2010 7:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Some positive

Preston MAttingly just stole his 6th base, Just ignore the fact hes 22, in the AZL Rookie League, a former first round pick, and hitting .218 and we are good

by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 12, 2010 8:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Thank god Baldwin is hitting finally

otherwise I would advise drafting players whose fathers named Don Mattingly or James Baldwin and anyone else associated with them

by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 12, 2010 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

beli showed in 1st game back with the homer that he’s still tinkering. Monk at least we know what we get. and for Brox i’m convinced he’s going the jock route of having an injury of some sort and trying to play through it. that slider is wicked yet he throws that fastball that is flatter than lara flynn boyle.

by raj m on Aug 12, 2010 8:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh look some preseason football

Oh shit it’s the Cowboys

I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.

by angelofdeath on Aug 12, 2010 8:29 PM PDT reply actions  

How bout them Cowboys!

by keithc13 on Aug 12, 2010 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Um, no

I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.

by angelofdeath on Aug 12, 2010 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

um, double no

How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?

by Josie Becker on Aug 12, 2010 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

One more kick in the gonads to go

Zach Lee…“we tried but he wanted to play ball in College…”

The Dodgers’ spending in this draft could be historically low. They have signed eight of their top 10 picks and spent about $1.3 million on them, according to Baseball America. The Dodgers aren’t expected to sign their two unsigned top-10 picks, Lee and sixth-rounder Kevin Gausman.

The New York Mets had the lowest draft budget of any team last year, spending a total of $3.1 million, including $1.9 million on their top 10 picks. The Mets didn’t have a first-round pick. LA Times today

This town and their 3-4million tix sold, with Tommy loving the team until his last breath, with Vinny close to retirement…this town deserves way more than hamstrung payroll from a low class, overlevereged,flaunt your money with six mansions and STILL stay at swanky hotel, can’t keep his own wife, shnpunt, pitching a scheme to double ticket prices and cut payroll over several years…

GET LOST MCCOURT…SELL THIS TEAM

by megaballs on Aug 12, 2010 8:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Just ventin’…I think McCourt from his Baltimore days to present is a schmuck and his leveraged deal to get wealthy off of the team rather than being wealthy and then owning a team for breakeven …just being content with the ultimate capital gain…I believe his sudden payroll constraints of 2008 to present wasted the core’s best years, not to mention Vinny’s…pisses me off
thanks for listenin’

by megaballs on Aug 12, 2010 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I agree

But all these deferred contracts shouldnt be hurting us too much right now. Over the next couple of years. . will they? Hell yah, but hopefully he is gone by then

by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 12, 2010 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

No Sarcasm

The guy has no dick. He’s a peacock without a dick. It just don’t make no sense!

by Cool Dudes on Aug 12, 2010 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is there any labor rule that says you at least have to make an offer to a guy?

People don't think it be like this, but it do.

by MartinGreen on Aug 12, 2010 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

also is there some advanced metric for “pressure.” i mean a game in which the closer comes in, say brox vs the pirates on the road with a 1 run game vs brox vs the phillies on the road with a 1 run lead. stat wise they’re the same situation but “pressure” wise they’re markedly different. i feel like joe morgan saying this last statement. i didn’t think that was even possible, but dodger losses will do that to you.

by raj m on Aug 12, 2010 8:31 PM PDT reply actions  

No

But I’m sure his home/away splits tell dividends

by Cool Dudes on Aug 12, 2010 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

So does that make Casey Blake the new Jose Offerman?

by StolenMonkey86 on Aug 12, 2010 8:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Billy Buckner

How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?

by Josie Becker on Aug 12, 2010 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

heh

yes
wonder if he was not wearing a cup because he didn’t start?
he sure pulled up when that ball hopped

by 68elcamino427 on Aug 12, 2010 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

My dad had to talk me off the ledge a little while ago

He had given up on this team 3 weeks ago and I said he was crazy for it.

Why must the universe make me pay like this?

Also, I would have given anything for it not to have been Ruiz to do that…I would have preferred Rollins for God’s sake.

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 12, 2010 8:32 PM PDT reply actions  

They might be able to move him

for something now. He has been okay for a couple of weeks now, especially against LHers.

by keithc13 on Aug 12, 2010 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

While they're at it

Move Furcal too… Before he blows his back again

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by angelofdeath on Aug 12, 2010 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep, cleared yesterday (Wednesday), announced today (Thursday).

by elsid on Aug 12, 2010 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Depends on how much contract they eat. Also, didn’t help when the two runs scored the other night on Dotel’s watch. Line score of that game looks horrible, even though he didn’t really pitch that bad. Moved the ERA from 6.33 to 7.00 — now down to 6.83.

by elsid on Aug 12, 2010 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

So, Im optimistic

and the season is done IMO. Sorry guys.

Question, is Gausman pitching anywhere for summer? A guy at minorleagueball.com wanted to know….

by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Aug 12, 2010 8:38 PM PDT reply actions  

California Penial League

by keithc13 on Aug 12, 2010 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah he is

and he was getting dominated when i last chceked

by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 12, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

What do people see in Gausman

He had like a mid 4’s ERA in highschool, and a 5.69 ERA in his summer league. Sure he can hit high 90’s but he cant control it for shit

by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 12, 2010 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

he is a classic pick for us

Great FB, i think he has some kind of breaking pitch. We try to teach him control.

to everyone else, thanks

by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Aug 12, 2010 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I retract my statement because 85% of his pitches were

95-98 MPH, and hes got a 6 foot 4 frame, but youd think hed have some success, especially in high school

by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 12, 2010 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

youd think

but with young guys, it is usually more what they have no results… although I do agree that he shouldve done well in high school with what he reportedly has

by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Aug 12, 2010 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

the dodgers are his illegitimate son

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Aug 12, 2010 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

lmao

http://www.dingersblog.com

by dingers on Aug 12, 2010 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm too depressed tonight..

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK THE FAT BROXTON…
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK THE FAT BELISARIO AND HIS STUPID BALK
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK THE BEARD
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK RUIZ
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK LYONS AND COLLINS
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK THE MC COURTS…

Ok, now I can sleep well…

Louise Bourgoin: The hottest French actress I've ever seen <3

by Jojo93160 on Aug 12, 2010 8:41 PM PDT reply actions  

fixed
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK LYONS AND COLLINS THE PHILLIES

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Aug 12, 2010 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lyons is a former Phily...

And he’s not funny…

Louise Bourgoin: The hottest French actress I've ever seen <3

by Jojo93160 on Aug 12, 2010 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, this game was just the final shred of hope withering. the only thing that really bothers me is that it was against the phillies.

really, can we never face them again?

http://www.dingersblog.com

by dingers on Aug 12, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Aug 12, 2010 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Getting swept by the Braves would help this. Lets get it done boys!

by Alex41592 on Aug 12, 2010 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

after watching the last two NLCS

that makes this loss a million times worse.

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Aug 12, 2010 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

And Frank puts his kids on the payroll for $250k yet doesn’t pay any income taxes…atleast the doughboy got paid whil his wife got….nevermind

by megaballs on Aug 12, 2010 8:43 PM PDT reply actions  

I agree with the idea of pulling Broxton

after the two walks. He clearly didnt have his stuff again. Torre has to bring in someone else. In that Blue Jays- Red Sox game, Francona pulled Papelbon and put Bard in when he didnt have his stuff.

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Aug 12, 2010 8:47 PM PDT reply actions  

We can put Kuo as a closer now...

Louise Bourgoin: The hottest French actress I've ever seen <3

by Jojo93160 on Aug 12, 2010 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Blown saves the theme in the system tonight

Ames blew a two run lead in the 9th for the Loons

In a year that has been so improbable, the impossible has happened

by JB 8 on Aug 12, 2010 8:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Blown saves happen over the year, especially on the road

Its just last year, we blew the save and still won, and were in first place all year.

This year we just screwed the pooch in the very first week of the season and then got killed when everyone did not stay healthy, sane, and not on crack all year.

by Cool Dudes on Aug 12, 2010 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Broxton dropped the ball again. Russia blows people! Dodgertalk talking bunts!

by Alex41592 on Aug 12, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

We're mind fucking ourselves into thinking we're still in this

Not working

I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.

by angelofdeath on Aug 12, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know

but I am wearing Nikes and a weird jump suit and eric just gave me some kool aid to drink

by keithc13 on Aug 12, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was there in 1990!!

I still remember that game! i was only 6 years old and my dad took me as he still does on a regular basis, he still hasn’t forgiven the Dodgers for that game. He constantly brings that game up. Its burned in my memory forever

by DodgerEric on Aug 12, 2010 8:56 PM PDT reply actions  

great memories, I assume

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Aug 12, 2010 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh man

that must have been terrible. My brothers probably would have left early :)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2010 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Without looking, is that the game

where the downfall started with Tim Crews?

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by David Young on Aug 12, 2010 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was a big part of it

but the first 6 runs of the 9th were charged to Dave (who?) Walsh

by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2010 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Life’s been bad to him so far

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by David Young on Aug 12, 2010 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder if he ever had

bases are loaded and Casey’s at bat?

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by David Young on Aug 12, 2010 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow

The Raiders really took that preseason game seriously…

I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.

by angelofdeath on Aug 12, 2010 9:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Headline
Dodgers Blow Seven-Run Eighth-Inning Lead, Lose To Phillies

Fixed.

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by David Young on Aug 12, 2010 9:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Broxton no longer closer?

Torre on whether Broxton is still the #Dodgers’ closer: “Let the smoke clear here before you get me to say something I didn’t think about.”

http://twitter.com/dylanohernandez

by Alex41592 on Aug 12, 2010 9:14 PM PDT reply actions  

The man needs a rest

the both of them

Take a vacation now Joe
This crew is giving you all they’ve got
That’s all there is …

by 68elcamino427 on Aug 12, 2010 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

The lead stretched to 7, and he pitched last night. Perhaps with 2 pitches today, he might (might!) be available tomorrow too.

Although he always seems to be the guy who, if he’s warmed up, might as well use him.

But again, it was a 7-run lead. Good time to use Belisario IMO; it just didn’t work out.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2010 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because the Dodgers scored three more runs

to make it a seven run lead with two innings to go.

And maybe made Kuo available for tomorrow, not that that matters anymore.

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by David Young on Aug 12, 2010 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good things don’t happen when to Broxton when Joe Blanton starts.

Stairs game, Rollins game and tonight.

by Alex41592 on Aug 12, 2010 9:17 PM PDT reply actions  

oof.

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by David Young on Aug 12, 2010 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

we cant defeat Joe Blanton

lol

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Aug 12, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

How's this for pessimism

The Dodgers’ elimination number is 40.

by StolenMonkey86 on Aug 12, 2010 9:30 PM PDT reply actions  

We all die alone

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 12, 2010 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Dodgers plan was to compete with a near $100 million payroll.

Its just unfortunate, the GM decided to eat least 15 million of that each year with deferred compensation.

by Tripon on Aug 12, 2010 9:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Why are you trying to make this night worse?

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 12, 2010 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

worse?

Jersey Shore is the saving grace tonight

by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 12, 2010 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jersey Shore proves Idiocracy right

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 12, 2010 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Could it get any worse

After that shit? Hell, I’ll watch that crap

I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.

by angelofdeath on Aug 12, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Ronald Belisario was in rehab for an illegal substance.

Then he should have been put on the DL, and then do a normal rehab assignment.

Having him be put on the restricted list, out of baseball for a month, do a quick rehab assignment in the minors, activated and treated his appearance today as a rehab game does not scream every game counts.

by Tripon on Aug 12, 2010 9:40 PM PDT reply actions  

I have some hope with Torre leaving

but that still leaves Ned in charge. Do we really trust NED to pick a good replacement??

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 12, 2010 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

sky is falling and all that

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 12, 2010 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's the Dodger office punitive mind set again

Because Belisario gave them trouble over the off-season/spring training (late), and now here he was with something else, they weren’t going to put him on the DL where they’d have to pay him. Oh no, he screwed them, so he deserved no special treatment (sorry for gthe pun). On the restricted list, he could take care of his own problems. He may have wanted that, to, though since he’s foreign and already in trouble once with INS – he may have been afraid that a frank admission of substance abuse would get him a one-way deportation. By not getting the DL, he also didn’t get rehab (nothing to rehab from) in a minor leagye team.

by berkowit28 on Aug 12, 2010 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Belisario worked out and threw in the bullpen for 2 weeks, and he pitched in 2 rehab games.

Pitching him up 7 in the 8th inning is the absolute perfect time to use him. It just didn’t work out.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2010 11:43 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Don't confuse the tirade with

your damn facts!

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Aug 13, 2010 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

But Wait a Minute

Did we cover how Matt Kemp blew the game tonight?

Did you realize that Matt Kemp only went 3 for 5, and even left a man on base? And where was he to back up Casey Blake on that ball through his legs? Is he going to try to make that whiny excuse that if anyone from the outfield should back up Blake it’s the left fielder? And where was the V-energy for Broxton? Clearly he wasn’t playing hard enough.

by StolenMonkey86 on Aug 12, 2010 9:48 PM PDT reply actions  

If Matt Kemp had actually hustled in CF on Ruiz's double

he could have pulled a Shawn Green and thrown out BOTH runners at home.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Aug 13, 2010 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Off topic

Casey McGehee of the Brewers went four-for-four for the second straight night, and has hits in nine consecutive at-bats, dating back to Tuesday.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2010 9:53 PM PDT reply actions  

fuck everything

i’m vacationing in Newport, so I’m going to try not to allow this to hurt so bad, but that just sucked

William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.

by Ollie on Aug 12, 2010 10:00 PM PDT reply actions  

The good news is, you’ll have your choice of seats at next week’s games.

People don't think it be like this, but it do.

by MartinGreen on Aug 12, 2010 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

sooooo

rubby best fastball and sands best defensive 1b?

what was all that crap from klaw and goldstein about his atrocious defense?

by npurcell on Aug 12, 2010 10:13 PM PDT reply actions  

I think we all know who to blame...

Matt Kemp. Because he should have known that ball was going to go through Casey Blake’s legs and he should have been ritght there to make the play.

by vadodger on Aug 12, 2010 10:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Your comment is about 1/2 an hour

too late. :-)

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by David Young on Aug 13, 2010 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Has Broxton had less save opportunities at this point compared to last year? It seems like his use has been so inconsistent. I wonder if he is just off because of this or if he is overworked.

by robotmadeofnails on Aug 12, 2010 10:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Last year at this time he was 25 of 29 save opportunities, 49 games total, 51.2 IP
This year he is at 21 out of 26, 47 games, 46.1 IP

by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I recorded the 9th and was going to watch it…but I checked here first.

by robotmadeofnails on Aug 12, 2010 10:45 PM PDT reply actions  

I was at dinner when Belisario was pitching

and going pitch by pitch on my phone. I stopped watching as soon as Jansen came in, and said ‘holy fuck, they really are going to blow this game’. Unfortunately, I was right…

by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Aug 12, 2010 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't it be sort of like the proverbial train wreck?

You don’t want to look but you can’t help it?

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Aug 13, 2010 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Man, this really kills me to say it

But I think this year is done AND we have to hope that Torre and most of the FO is gone. McCourt may be forced to sell the team as early as this offseason. Maybe we get something like the Rangers and get a solid baseball mind. Put Ng as GM and give White the highest scouting position he can have… hell, make a new position. Cut ties to Torre… yes, even Donnie. That KILLS me to say. But Donnie and Torre arent good for this team. Too big an age difference to help. Sport this lineup going into next year:

Furcal-SS
Robinson/Paul/possible FA for one yr if Robinson/Sands aren’t ready(doubt Sands will be, but possibly Robinson will be)-RF
Andre-LF
Kemp-CF
Loney-1B
Blake-3B
Martin-C(many wont like it, but if he comes back healthy, his defense/OBP will be worth the 7m)
DeJesus?-2B(do we have anyone else?)
Pitcher

Rotation:
Kershaw
Billz
Kuroda(try 2 years if he wants to come back)
Padilla(gotta resign him, right? He has been great since he got here last year)
Um… do we have anyone in the system? lol

A pen that includes Broxton, Jansen, Kuo, Belisario, Lindblom

Thats 19 players when counting the 5th starter and one guy for RF. So we have 6 spots for… a 5 man bench and a long man in the pen.

We have a solid core, we got hit with untimely injuries, a bad stretch, and a clubhouse separation lead by the GM….

So, while I cant drink, here’s to the hope McCourt has to sell…

by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Aug 12, 2010 10:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Doesn't Logan White already have

the highest scouting position he can have?

Assistant GM, Amateur and International Scouting
    Logan White

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by David Young on Aug 13, 2010 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

He already reports to Colletti

There is no higher position in scouting in the Dodger org.

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by David Young on Aug 13, 2010 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

reporting live from Philadelphia

Just got back from the game. Went to a casino after the game to help me out, and that didn’t help too much either, as the TVs were all blaring with recaps of the game.

I’ll stick to the facts as much as possible, as I’m in no mood to defend my half-baked opinions right now. Plus, I’m sure everyone will give every opinion imaginable anyway, so here’s some lighter stuff that may or may not be of interest to everyone…

…For those that care about the performance of Ethier the person (or Dodgers in general), he was very cordial with fans before the game. Not only did he sign stuff, but he spent time talking, as well. (Of course, no pictures, though.)

…James Loney was goofing around with the Phily Phinatic after the National Anthem, then signing stuff for fans literally seconds before the game started (after the national anthem). I darted down the steps (I was gonna use another word there, before I found a metpahor), and frantically asked him to sign my ticket. I was going to have him sign over Shane Victorino’s face, but he (politely) said he had to go, and wasn’t kidding, as the game was literally about it start. Had he seen my endless defense of him on this site over the past year or so, perhaps he would’ve reconsidered!

…very few Dodger fans were around, but there were enough of us to give nods and friendly finger-points anytime something good happened.

….many Philly fans left after the Kemp homerun, allowing me a much better view of the rest of the game (yay?). I said to my Philly phriends, half jokingly, the game wasn’t over with the Dodger bullpen. I kind of expected them to make it interesting, but not that interesting.

…my friend told me that she saw Casey Blake and Matt Kemp at the Bruce Springsteen concert last year during the NLCS. I believe her 100%, as she didn’t even know Casey Blake’s name, and certainly wouldn’t have known that they were buddies.

…speaking of Blake, I defended him endlessly after the play in the 8th, saying what a steady presence he was in the Dodger infield. This gave those around me extra enjoyment after what happened in the 9th.

…I was sitting down for the final play, so all I know is that He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named (there are, like, 3 of those guys on the Phillies, at least) hit the ball of the top of the wall, and the game was over.

The only opinion I’ll add is that with all that’s gone on off the field, I still believe the future isn’t as bleak as it seems, so long as the front office starts to do what’s right for the long-term. As for the short-term, I think we all pretty much accepted reality a few weeks ago.

G’night…

by sarcastro9 on Aug 12, 2010 10:59 PM PDT reply actions  

oh yeah, one other thing

I tried calling the Suicide Hotline Dodgertalk after the game, but the lines were all busy. My friends all thought it was funny that I knew the number by heart. I can’t say I blame them.

by sarcastro9 on Aug 12, 2010 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

This was a great line
I darted down the steps (I was gonna use another word there, before I found a metpahor)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2010 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

thanks, glad you thought so

I had to find some humor in the situation!

by sarcastro9 on Aug 13, 2010 7:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

what an awful game to have attended

on the road. Yeesh.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Aug 13, 2010 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good news for fans of the EPL

who have Direct TV. FSC is finally in HD. As is GOL TV if your preference is Serie A, The Bundesliga, or La Liga.

by keithc13 on Aug 12, 2010 11:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Well

That really got out of hand fast

I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.

by angelofdeath on Aug 12, 2010 11:19 PM PDT reply actions  

I saw that. Carlos Ruiz killed a guy. Did you throw a trident?

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 12, 2010 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

There were horses, the whole place was on fire, I saw the Phillies in hell…

I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.

by angelofdeath on Aug 12, 2010 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

So I read Plaschke's article

And he managed to blame Kemp for not scoring a 10th run.

Shouldn’t have broken my rule.

Also, Dave Stewart is rightfully pissed.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2010 11:41 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Fuck Bill Platchske

Only a brain-dead person could blame Kemp for this, and it’s only right that good old Bill did it.

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 12, 2010 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bill Plaschke and Bill Simmons

Two fucking peas in the same fucking pod

I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.

by angelofdeath on Aug 12, 2010 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

If I wasn't from LA, I might enjoy simmons actually

but Plaschke is just garbage…although I’m starting to think he’s a genius, if you think about it, we talk about him more than any other journalist

William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.

by Ollie on Aug 13, 2010 12:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Simmons is much better than Plaschke.

by dsm9412 on Aug 13, 2010 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

His conclusion isn't bad though, other than the "best baseball minds" pandering:
But to trade him now would be a premature surrender on his awesome potential, and Colletti knows it.

“No, I have no plans to trade him,” said Colletti. “He’s got a chance to be one of the best players in the history of the franchise.”

Colletti backed Schaefer and Bowa, who are considered two of the best baseball minds in the game. But he also allowed for the chance that Kemp is the sort of player who responds better to a different tone of voice.

“Our coaching staff only wants the best for the kid,” Colletti said. “Are they too hard on him? That’s a matter of opinion. But if there’s a miscommunication, we’re all adults here, let’s put everybody in a room and work it out.”

Good idea. Work it out. Don’t change the standout coaching staff to suit the needs of one player. But if you think Matt Kemp is worth it — and he probably is — don’t be afraid to add another credible clubhouse presence who can relate to him.

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by David Young on Aug 13, 2010 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I agree

by Eric Stephen on Aug 13, 2010 5:56 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

yup

I knew that column would hit a nerve or two (or three), but he does manage to draw some pretty good conclusions. And honestly, I don’t blame him for pointing out that Kemp didn’t make it to second base, as I was wondering the same thing at the time. But to imply that it somehow balances out all the good he did during the game was very Plashkesque. With no Manny to kick around anymore, guess he’s setting his sites back on Kemp.

by sarcastro9 on Aug 13, 2010 7:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

and for the record

I don’t want an “us versus them” situation with the coaching staff and Kemp, but if it’s already reached that point, I’m 100% in Kemp’s corner. This isn’t like the LeBron situation, where you had the entire franchise kowtow to a single player, only for him to leave it in ruins. Actually, it’s pretty much the opposite- this is about supporting a guy who is supposed to be your franchise player, so he can actually get there. It doesn’t seem like they’re doing that right now, and what may have started out as well-intentioned tough love just seems to be turning petty and nasty.

by sarcastro9 on Aug 13, 2010 7:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

no this is more like a Grady Little situation

except it may not have divided the clubhouse because one of the most respected veterans, Casey Blake, is on Kemp’s side

by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Aug 13, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Isn’t this year Casey Blake’s last year of contract? or one more? Cause only person I can think that is close to Kemp in the clubhouse is Casey lol.

by LAD17 on Aug 13, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Blake is signed through 2011, with a 2012 club option

by Eric Stephen on Aug 13, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry guys

I’m actually gonna cheer for Braves now so Phillies can fuckin lose the division and lose wild card to Reds.

by LAD17 on Aug 13, 2010 12:03 AM PDT reply actions  

not fun, not fun at all.

Why is James Loney not batting 3rd?!

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 13, 2010 12:36 AM PDT reply actions  

4th place and 9 games out of first

6.5 games out of the wild card but in 5th place there. Are the playoff odds under 1% yet?

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Aug 13, 2010 12:44 AM PDT reply actions  

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2012 Dodgers Payroll

Italics denote estimates
Pos No Player 2012 Salary
C 17 Ellis $500,000 team control
1B 7 Loney $6,375,000
2B 14 Ellis $2,500,000
3B 5 Uribe $8,000,000
SS 9 Gordon $485,000 team control
LF 21 Rivera $4,000,000
CF 27 Kemp $10,000,000
RF 16 Ethier $10,950,000

IF/OF 6 Hairston $2,250,000
OF 10 Gwynn $850,000
2B/3B 3 Kennedy $800,000
C 18 Treanor $850,000
IF 12 Sellers $485,000 team control

SP 22 Kershaw $8,500,000 arb
SP 58 Billingsley $9,000,000
SP 29 Lilly $12,000,000
SP 37 Capuano $3,000,000
SP 44
Harang $3,000,000

CL 54 Guerra $485,000 team control
RHP 74
Jansen $500,000 team control
RHP 55 Guerrier $4,750,000
RHP Coffey $1,000,000
RHP 66 MacDougal $650,000
LHP 57 Elbert $485,000 team control
RHP 36
Hawksworth $500,000 team control

TJ 41 De La Rosa $485,000 team control



Manny $8,087,432 deferred


Andruw $3,375,000 deferred


Pierre $3,050,000 deferred
Furcal $3,000,000 deferred
Kuroda $2,000,000 deferred
Garland $1,500,000 option buyout
Blake $1,250,000 option buyout

Totals
$114,662,432

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Players on 40-man roster used as roster
fillers until moves are made.

Current 40-man roster count: 40
(not including Belisario)

2012 Non-Roster Invitees

No Player Age*
63 Jose Ascanio rhp
27
61 Alberto Castillo lhp
36
60 Matt Chico lhp
29
35 John Grabow lhp
33
59 Angel Guzman rhp
30
47 Wil Ledezma lhp
31
72 Shane Lindsay rhp
27
62 Fernando Nieve rhp 29
73 Scott Rice lhp 30
70 Will Savage rhp
27
71 Ryan Tucker rhp
25

30 Josh Bard c 34
82 Griff Erickson c 24
81 Matt Wallachc 26
67 Jeff Baisley 3b/1b 29
62 Luis Cruz ss/2b 28
33 Josh Fields 3b 29
64 Lance Zawadzki if 27
56 Cory Sullivan of 32

*Age on June 30, 2012

NRI count: 19

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Manager

Eric___ned___reporters_2011_trade_deadline_small Eric Stephen

Editors

100_1427_small Phil Gurnee

Dgy_small David Young

Hanauma_bay_small Chad Moriyama

2501_small Michael White

Raptors_small Brandon Lennox