Return Of Juan Castro Game Chat
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2010 10:29 AM PDT
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PrintLos Angeles Dodgers at Atlanta Braves, Aug 15, 2010 10:35 AM PDT
Here are the lineups
| Dodgers | Braves | |||
| LF | Podsednik |
2B | Infante | |
| 2B | Theriot | RF | Ankiel | |
| RF | Ethier | SS | Gonzalez |
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| 1B | Loney | 1B | McCann | |
| CF | Kemp | C | Glaus | |
| 3B | Belliard |
LF | Hinske | |
| SS | Castro | 3B | Conrad | |
| C | Ausmus | RF | Cabrera | |
| P | Padilla | P | Jurrjens |
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This is freaking hilarious. I’m reading Joe Posnanksi’s newest blog post about “heart and hustle” in baseball. Apparently there is a Heart and Hustle award every year and each team gets a nominee. And of course, the nominee for the Dodgers is none other than……Matt Kemp!
http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2010/08/14/youve-gotta-have-heart/
Straight on camera, so its a lot easier to tell on tv balls and strikes.
by UCLADodger32 on Aug 15, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Who called for the bunt
the coach or did he bunt on his own? I’d be curious to know, because managerial wise that is rather ridiculous to be playing for one run this early, esp when the guy is already in scoring position. Oh well.
The braves hat
Is actually worse than the jersey
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If they were looking to move Broxton in the winter, would the other team take on all $7M?
I’m trying to figure out how to offer Lilly arb and still keep payroll ~100M. Non-tendering Martin is a big factor here.
If they trade Broxton there will be plenty of suitors that will gladly pay $7m
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
the payroll doesn't have to be under $100 million.
Its obvious that the Dodgers have the revenue to sustain a 100 million plus payroll if they choose to.
If you’re charging 14 million to yourself, and been paying over $100 million on payroll until 2008, I think you can do that.
My point is (and you know this)
We all know the Dodger (self imposed) budget will be around $100 million or so.
Any forecasting otherwise is wishcasting.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Except we know at least this year the team won't be competitive with a sub-100 million payroll.
The whole Dodgers business model is to build a team that can make the playoffs. If they can’t do that, and the team isn’t built for that in 2011, why should people visit the team?
They need to renegotiate their rent with the landlords first.
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Greg Giraldo: Midlife Vices is probably going to get more of my attention today than anyone wearing blue outside of Padilla.
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I recorded that last night
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from the Philly fans
Go Dodgers!!!!!
Hey Dez, it's 2am do you know where your mother is?
by sowhatifitisasportste on Aug 15, 2010 10:49 AM PDT reply actions
You’re not still mad about the NLCS are you?
Hey Dez, it's 2am do you know where your mother is?
by sowhatifitisasportste on Aug 15, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
No
Just don’t want to hear from you
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Series
This says 6-2. You’re not still mad about having a longer WS drought than the Red Sox?
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Is that really a question?
I don’t hate (nice) Philly fans…but I hate every single one of their players…fuck Ruiz…you made a brave move coming in here, lol.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
In reality
Ruiz probably a nice guy. Can not say same for phillies fans I have seen.
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Remember that douchebag from TBLA night?
He did nothing besides wear a Phillies jersey, but he would quite obviously a douche bag.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
No
Last week a braves fan came in here wishing us luck and he fucked it all up. Go back to hating us, we’ll go back to hating you, and the world will continue to spin in the appropriate direction.
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a while back
a red sox fan wished us luck during the last game with the yankees and we choked the game away.
Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?
Mostly Vin
After tomorrow, there are only two Vinless trips left – to Milwaukee and Houston, and they’re both just 3 days each. Otherwise, it’s all at home or NL West, with Vin, including 12 games vs. the Rockies. That might be interesting.
by berkowit28 on Aug 15, 2010 10:51 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Wow
dylanohernandez
Rival agents think #Dodgers will offer Zach Lee somewhere in the neighborhood of $3 million…
dylanohernandez
… at least one of them thinks that might be enough to get it done. Take that for what it’s worth.
Just offer 4.5 mill to give up football and come to the Dodgers for good
Get this shit done.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
A lot of these moves are easy for me to make because it's not my money :)
Why can’t we just sign Cliff Lee and Adrian Beltre in the offseason for that matter :D
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
What do you guys think our chances are of giving Kershaw the same deal as Romero, Lester, Gallardo? 30.1 over 5.
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Billingsley is too far along on his service time for that. Kershaw’s deal would have to start at Romero’s and move north. Same service time class, but CK is better.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Ya, you’d basically take off what, the first year of CK’s deal and add another of the last years. so probably like a 44/5?
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No
he’s in the same service class as Romero (Romero will have 2 years exactly after 2010, Kershaw will have 2 years, 105 days). On a 5-year deal, the first year is the same, and just bump up the remaining 4 years slightly
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
No I meant for a Billingsley deal. You take off the first two years of the 30/5 and add on two of the 13mil deals on the end. Would give him roughly 55/5 with 3 FA years covered.
But of course, we should always avoid the 55/5 deal anyway, so the point is moot.
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My question would be, why hasn’t this occurred to Ned Colletti?
And the answer is that Colletti and the rest of the front office must have flown a similar offer already and been rebuffed because Dave Stewart is going to kick the Dodgers’ ass.
He may not have been green lighted to make such a deal. Or he doesn’t trust a 22/25 year old, or pitchers are risky and he doesn’t want to guarantee anything he doesn’t have to, or…
Though, if Frank wanted some good PR, signing either of these guys to long term deals would kind of get the casual fan back.
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No it wouldn’t.
The casual fan would require the team to trade for Miguel Cabrera or something.
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Probably true
and extensions really don’t get the national media attention either. They mostly just get announced.
We’d need like a Manny figure who can perform decently well and be recognizable.
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That’s what I was thinking. The only good PR is to make a superstar signing.
Not that it would happen anyway, but are any superstars free agents next year?
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Carl Crawford, maybe. Carlos Pena or Adam Dunn seem like the kind of guys a fan would rally around. Chicks still dig the long ball.
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I meant after this year, but yes, those are the kind of signings that would get the casual fan fired up.
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
But with Theriot here, Cora can’t wear his #13!
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Off the top of my head, 2011 free agents with name recognition:
Victor Martinez, Lance Berkman (option), Adam Dunn, Derek Jeter, Adrian Beltre (reaching), Crawford, Werth, Cliff Lee and then a slew of pitchers who are rehabbing but still name guys :Webb, Bedard, Duchscherer, Sheets, Harden, Javier Vazquez (refuses to play on the better coast).
Just not really anything there we could go after. We lucked into Manny because his team hated him.
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Casual fans may want this guy most:
Mariano Rivera anyone?
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If I knew that Castro would start for us, I would have started Jurgens. Damn
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 15, 2010 11:02 AM PDT reply actions
Mint. So I was telling people at dinner last night you rant. They enjoyed.
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i don't know what that is
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when people go places, they “check in” (Via GPS or something) and all their friends/followers can see where they are.
Is that the one where you are the "mayor"
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Great
I think like Collins
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Trivia on PT today: last time 5 NL pitchers had ERAs under 2.50
I’m guessing 1985.
I know Gooden was 1.53, Tudor was 1.93-ish, and Orel was 2.03. There had to be 2 others. Hell, Fernando might have been 2.40-ish that season.
Guerrero should have won MVP in 1985, yes.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
There were 6 in 1985!
including 3 Dodgers!
Doc 1.53
Tudor 1.93
Orel 2.03
Reuschel 2.27
Welch 2.31
Fernando 2.45
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
The answer is 1992
Swift, Tewksbury, Maddux, Schilling, El Presidente
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Also happened in 1988
7 pitchers, including Orel and part-time Dodger Tudor
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Well. One day closer to torre’s decision now.
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I saw some stats earlier about the dreadful hitting of the replacement catchers...
But how have the two fill-ins been calling games? I’ve heard of a stat called “Catcher ERA” before and I know there are too many factors to make it a reliable stat, but do we have any way to compare how these two have called games compared to Russ?
DeWitt makes that play.
Delwyn Young makes that play.
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2010 11:22 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Y'know
if sports announcers were scientists, we’d have daily news breaks about the tide once again rolling out. Off course a pitching explosion follows an offensive explosion. In five years time we’ll probably have another offensive explosion. It happens in every sport, every few years or so, amen.
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 15, 2010 11:24 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Imagine someone in regular shoes running onto an ice rink.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Didn’t cut the ball off and it rolled to the wall. Triple.
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Might drive a man to become a serial killer
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Man, on Gameday it’s completely in the zone, too. Oh well, at least he K’d.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
With each loss, Ned Colletti looks like a bigger fool.
Or does he get a pass because he ‘went’ for it?
Yes I would. But then I think the guy is trying to cover his own ass than actually trying to improve the team.
Nothing is going to change about that between now and the end of the season. Your complaints have been registered. It’s just getting old and stale.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Better to pretend that this team is fine. It isn’t.
Saying the truth is not okay to be spoken out loud is wrong.
Jesus Christ
Nobody is pretending the team is fine. We all know the deal. We just stopped whining about it like a fucking child.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh shit!
he just threw the glove down. Fight! Fight!
/childish
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by Josie Becker on Aug 15, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't think
anyone on here is pretending that all is well.
We know that we are in trouble and thankfully we have you to remind us……every hour of every day.
Did your hands hurt after nailing yourself to the cross?
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think there’s a church song with those lyrics
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by Josie Becker on Aug 15, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t get this reference. I’d be more like the Roman soldier driving the spear into Jesus’ gut.
BTW, Ned Colletti is obviously Jesus.
Watched Major League 2 yesterday. Can’t wait for Colletti to walk into Torre’s office announcing that he activated himself.
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
you don’t know much about religion, do you?
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by Josie Becker on Aug 15, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Its an Evangelion reference. I was reffing the Spear of Longinus.
The Holy Lance (also known as the Spear of Destiny, Holy Spear, Lance of Longinus, Spear of Longinus or Spear of Christ) is the name given to the lance that pierced Jesus’s side as he hung on the cross in John’s account of the Crucifixion.
No, I get it
I’m just wondering…nevermind, someone bring me some pizza and beer
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by Josie Becker on Aug 15, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Pass from who?
From the people who matter, yes he will get a pass.
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Unfortunately
the hardware store was all out of tar
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by Josie Becker on Aug 15, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Stupid married people
all those checks are bouncers
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Why do baseball announcers keep talking about how much ‘energy’ that Pods/Theriot have brought to the club?
This is asinine.
he said after Labor Day, and that he wouldn’t announce anything until after the Dodgers are eliminated or (haha) make the playoffs.
And he’s gone.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I know it’s crazy, but I kind of want him to stay. I think you can analyze the heck out of Colleti’s moves, but if we’re blaming this season on Torre, we have to then assume that they made the NLCS the last two years despite him, that they’d be world series winners with a replacement manager. He wants to get out fine, but I don’t think it’s the move that turns this team around
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by Josie Becker on Aug 15, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I think it will be Torre’s choice to leave IMO.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Really believe the Dodgers are seriously considering paying a manager a muti-million dollar contract?
Torre is the highest paid manager in the MLB?
Bringing him in was a tremendous PR move.
by 68elcamino427 on Aug 15, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
How are we measuring tremendous?
Good will for about a week and a half?
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
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by Josie Becker on Aug 15, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
And even then
if we had lost to the Celtics this year, would Lakers fans even wanted him back? Or would they be talking about how great Byron Scott has been.
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He still
looks odd on the Laker sideline to me. Conversely, every time I see Pat Riley I wonder why he won’t come home anymore, after saying he was going to go buy milk. Don’t you still love us? Is it my fault?
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by Josie Becker on Aug 15, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Even Pat Riley’s act wore thin, though. Every once in a while, the players just tune the dude out.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
But...but...
Magic, Kareem, domination of the 80s! For all Phil Jackson has done for Kobe and the Lakers, these rings just don’t feel the same. But maybe that’s just growing up
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by Josie Becker on Aug 15, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, growing up is part of it. I loved those 1980s teams to death.
I didn’t feel much when the Lakers won last year, but this year stirred up all the old emotions. I’m sure 2008 had something to do with that.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Pat Riley just pulled off the best off-season in basketball history for his team.
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Pat Riley seemed to me like the luckies GM of all time
DWade sounded like he put this idea in their heads 2 years ago.
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I pretty much agree. I’m more in the coaches don’t matter (much) camp, but I don’t blame him and don’t think a new coach is the magic pill.
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m in the camp that at least Larry Bowa has to go, but I don’t think Torre will fire him. So if that what it takes to get rid of Bowa, fine.
Bowa’s rep was well established before he came to the Dodgers.
by 68elcamino427 on Aug 15, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
And his act has worn thin with the current group. One of Torre faults is that he doesn’t recognize players who are overworked and outlived their usefulness. This applies to coaches as well. The Dodgers may have needed Larry Bowa acting like a crazy fucker, but that day has gone.
Bowa really brings nothing
to the table other than acting like a dick for Torre.
I hate that we run his old, dumb ass out there daily and wonder why he acts like a dick.
It’s probably bc he is a dick.
Changes I'd like to see immediately
The ‘THINK BLUE’ sign on the hill is replaced with one that says
‘BLUE LAND’
this would also be emblazoned on the fron of the owner’s suite.
by 68elcamino427 on Aug 15, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
what if they hire the Blue Man Group and change their name to the Blue Land Group, and they act as security guards outside the suite?
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
But this isn’t like finding a new position player. The replacement level doesn’t apply because you should be able to find an equally qualified manager out there. I realize if you count things like World Series titles, playoff appearances and wins you won’t find a more “qualified” manager, and I hope they don’t go find a Bobby Valentine who will just clash with the modern athlete, but a Mike Scioscia type (I’ve heard Tim Wallach is similar) who can work with players rather than let his coaches handle it, would be a nice change.
Besides, the game management couldn’t get much worse.
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you think
(honest question) Mike Scioscia could be had in the coup of the century?
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by Josie Becker on Aug 15, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
He signed a 59 year deal down there
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Honest question, do we really want him?
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Tim Wallach will fit in nicely with the new budget
by 68elcamino427 on Aug 15, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
It’ll be cool for a week. He’ll screw up and he’ll fall in line.
Then you’ll complain how coaches should do their job and coach. Managers getting too involved.
The sun will rise and baseball managers will continue to suck.
I was referring to the manager talking to players, actually.
Still don’t get why Torre doesn’t do that.
I understood. He delegates to his coaches. The Braves are doing just fine with Bobby Cox who no doubt does the same thing. That’s just one example.
By talking I would assume you mean coaching. Since I would think Torre speaks to his players.
I don’t know about that. It doesn’t seem he talks about the important stuff. It took Kemp 3 days to actually ask about being benched in June, and the whole Orlando Hudson issue last year.
If you’re pulling that, I think you should at least be proactive with the player and tell him why he’s being benched.
Agree completely
Torre’s rep as a great communicator, from what I can tell, comes solely from his communications with the media.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
No.
That guy just signed a 20 year deal or some crap. I also don’t think he’d want to come in with all this turmoil. All of the franchise’s bad juju would be put on him to fix and no one who doesn’t actually get to play deserves that burden.
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Rick Monday with a dig at Melky Cabrera.
Steiner mentioned that they haven’t seen Cabrera in RF in a long time and Monday came back with “and we still haven’t seen him play RF.”
Rim Shot
ESPN2
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by Josie Becker on Aug 15, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Is it
the full squad out there?
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by Josie Becker on Aug 15, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
There is still one cut left to be made
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Looks like I missed the whole damn game.
Oops.
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Is there
another major tournament before the London Olympics?
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by Josie Becker on Aug 15, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I’d so much rather trade Ethier.
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Fastball up at the letters. Gun had the pitch at 96, which is like 3-4 mph harder than Jair sits. Just got on Kemp too quickly.
by UCLADodger32 on Aug 15, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
They do it again
Left on 2nd and 3rd.
by berkowit28 on Aug 15, 2010 11:44 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
they never draw, even when they are good. Its a shame because they have a good team and organization.
by UCLADodger32 on Aug 15, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I really want the Twins to make the World Series…so it can be played in snow, and 0 degree wind chill temps.
So do I
in theory…
but the first time I saw a game in Phoenix I thanked my lucky stars there was a dome there. It was an oven outside.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
This
I have been to probably 10 games in Phx and there is no way I’d go out there in that friggin heat
I could write a dissertation about things wrong without that stadium
The roof is not one of them
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You eat in the bar
right beside it?
Shitty food.
The only thing it has going for it is AC and cold beer
I would go eat elsewhere before the game. I assumed i am getting jacked at that place
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And its full of douche bag dodger fans
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I don't look like those guys
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Well played
You are gonna get a lot of DB dodger fans at Diamondback games. There are a lot of Dodger fans in the Valley.
I contend that retractable roofs aren’t domes. Domes were built in the 70s and have been hated ever since and contain some form of astroturf. Retractable Roofs are the greatest addition to sport since the three point line
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by Josie Becker on Aug 15, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Don't you mean
Since the All Star Game started to mean something?
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Actually
it’s the greatest thing since folk realized that diamonds and rectangles are different shapes. Multipurpose my ass.
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by Josie Becker on Aug 15, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Strange
Pods wears glasses in the field but not at the plate. Gibbons the same, I think.
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Juan Castro and Brad Ausmus
must really scare the shit out of Bob Cox.
Did he make the defense go out there or did he just send the CF, SS, 1B, P, and C out there?
I think he just tossed the umpire a glove.
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Not having a good minor league system (for depth purposes) really gets exposed when you have injuries.
This train wreck could be seen coming (little investment in draft, declining big league payroll, corp of older players getting more expensive). This might be a 2-3 yr down cycle of late 90s proportions.
Is Davey Johnson available?
Mediocore >>>>>>>>>> Bad
But, doubt it matters much.
Thats like saying we’re happy to be running out Pods instead of XPaul.
Probably doesnt matter much.
Walking Ankiel does qualify as The Grabowski Principle…
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Looked like this
http://www.noob.us/humor/baseball-player-fakes-being-hit-by-pitch/
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Padilla pops Gonzalez
He knows his time is near. Lets pop someone before they get me out of here.
Plus Gonzalez is a douche
after that guy got his whitewalls, he went to Weaver for some new brakes.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Weaver has to retire after this year, right? Can’t see the Dodgers wanting him back, he’s in mid 30s, and trying to stage another comeback might not be worth it.
For what he does, and at the price he does it
he’s very good.
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I doubt he will be back with the Dodgers at least.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Has Padilla ever been hit while batting?
I’m surprised a team just doesnt throw at him instead of a teammate.
I still contend the idea of plunking the pitcher makes no sense. Plunk a guy who stands a chance to get on base anyway
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Isn't
hitting a pitcher with a pitch like throwing a brick at a quarterback
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by Josie Becker on Aug 15, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Once this year
and once more thrown at.
But teams don’t go after the pitcher because they are too easy an out to waste.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
They don't hit the pitcher
because it only helps the other team.
Hit ARod or Teixeira instead of Burnett
Exactly. Plus, as Padilla knows, hitting the clean up guy instead of the pitcher still works to turn the team upside down if it happens too frequently.
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Logically that makes sense..
But if the goal is to make the opposing pitcher stop throwing at your hitters…wouldnt hitting them send more of a message than a teammate?
I dont think Padilla cares if his teammates get hit…which is why he had so many problems in Texas.
If Padilla has to be worried about getting drilled in his AB…maybe he stop throwing inside as much.
I think they should hit ARod
then when he gets to first, pickoff and hit him again.
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withrow sucking today again
2 hits 3 walks 1 HBP in 2 IP
I wanna punch that douche
who yelled at yeah at an obvious Sac Fly ball. Really, up 4-0 and you’re pumped at a Sac Fly?
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
I would get excited for a run
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Painful rectal itch doesn’t feel this bad
by KellyStephen on Aug 15, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Now for some good news.
Disabled Dodgers shortstop Rafael Furcal has made enough recent improvement from a lower back strain that he might join Manny Ramirez on a Minor League rehab assignment this week. Furcal, who is eligible to be activated from the 15-day disabled list on Wednesday, had a thorough workout Saturday — including batting practice in the cage — and felt well enough Sunday, when the Dodgers did not take BP on the field, to run aggressively in the outfield under the direction of trainer Stan Conte.
Time to take Padilla out was earlier
Though I guess Monk won’t mind not having inherited runners.
by berkowit28 on Aug 15, 2010 12:13 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
The new manager
They need a manager and a coaching staff that is in tune with both the players and the manager must also be able to deal with Upper Management. In fairness to Torre he has worked well with Upper Management in most cases, but his coaches, especially this year don’t seem to be meshing well with the players.
I am in the Wallach camp. After hearing Leo Mazonie on radio yesterday, I would love to see him as our pitching coach.
So, we need to hire our new coaching staff
based upon whether or not they will coddle Matt Kemp. Great! :)
No, those are not the only 2 options.
Both suggestions are killing ants with sledgehammers.
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Everyone knows magnifying glasses are the way to go.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not expecting Larry Bowa to change and suddenly act like he’s riding a unicorn and his favorite show is “My Little Ponies.”
Anyway, not sure why the Coaching staff should be extended. What makes this staff so much better than anyone else in MLB? If you could get fired after winning the manager of the year award, or making the playoffs, you can get fired for anything.
Sometimes, its best to make a change for the sake of change.
if the team is not sold, expect most of the high priced players to be moved?
by 68elcamino427 on Aug 15, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
i’m readyfor the next shoe to be dropped
by 68elcamino427 on Aug 15, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Who needs em
Raffy and Manny are still two of the best in the game, but what does it matter when you’re playing 60 games a year with replacement level players in their position.
Google before you Tweet. It's the new Think before you Speak.
The coaching staff will need to be able to extract the maximium number of wins from a 25 man roster that is filled with players being paid at or near the league miminum.
So an experienced minor league manager would make sense?
by 68elcamino427 on Aug 15, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm of the opinion
that managers don’t make much difference. They are all flawed, only a few less more so than others.
You are probably correct.
So then it makes sense for the Dodgers to pay MLB Manager minimum wage
(about $400,000 per?)
by 68elcamino427 on Aug 15, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
The counter argument is that the Dodgers wouldn’t use the savings they made on the coaching staff and use it on payroll or acquiring more draftee signings. They’d just pocket it.
Possibly, but who cares?
If Xei is right and coaches don’t matter (and I agree) then spending just to spend is meaningless.
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree.
I wasn’t disagreeing with the idea to replace the coaches, I was disagreeing with the notion that either Kemp had to go or the coaching staff had to go.
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Eh, I think this is the farthest Kemp can go with this coaching staff. Even if you think he’s a prima donna, the fact that its escalated into the public sphere should be worrisome.
Also, that it’s only one player is partly because they gotten rid of players who might have problems, with Stults, Hudson, Abreu and the like.
Correct me if I'm wrong
but I’ve heard shots about him in the public from coaches, front office, but I’ve never heard him say anything publicly about them.
I’m gonna go ahead and assume the coaches are the primadonnas.
Google before you Tweet. It's the new Think before you Speak.
I think the coaches need to get the fuck over it, but at this point, we have to believe with the smoke there is fire, right? There is obviously something about Kemp that rub the coaches the wrong way. This stuff isn’t just coming out of nowhere.
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Then again, should we care if Larry Bowa acts like a dick because of something Kemp did?
I used to think Scheafer was above all of this, but apparently not.
Should we care? I don’t know. I really don’t care about this stuff. Kemp and Stewart can want out, but it doesn’t matter and Torre and Bowa can cry but Colletti isn’t going to move Kemp.
They all need to act like professionals and keep it in-house.
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Kemp hasn’t gone public, but telling a coach to fuck off is never good.
Dave Stewart was Bowa to Kemp’s Torre in this scenario, going public twice.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Was Dave Stewart like that when he played?
Google before you Tweet. It's the new Think before you Speak.
when he wasn’t picking up “Lucille,” yes.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
So then is there anything to suggest Dave Stewart may just be sticking his nose where it doesn’t belong. I’ve always admired agents like the Hendricks Brothers. Guys you know are big in the game but who are only mentioned in public when it is appropriate (at least to my knowledge).
Google before you Tweet. It's the new Think before you Speak.
I think Kemp knows what is going on RE: Stewart.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think it is
In the end, they will sign here because of money, or they won’t.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t agree with your first sentence. He was an MVP candidate last year, but why would this year be the true indicator of how far he can go with the current coaching staff?
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Because its a lot easier to coach when things are going well. When things aren’t, and the player is not responding to you, it should be used as a knock against you.
Other things like Russell Martin regressing, Ethier can’t playing defense, treating veterans like Blake and GA much differently than Kemp. In the end, it adds up to something.
Yes, blaming Ethier’s defense on the coaching staff might be incredulous, but considering how much the staff has gotten on Kemp for his misplays but won’t do the same for Ethier is to me a coaching failure since if anyone needs help with his fielding, its Ethier.
Is OPS+ adjusted for your position as well?
Google before you Tweet. It's the new Think before you Speak.
If the Dodgers get shut out
It would be their 15th of the season, a total they haven’t reached since 1992. Since coming to L.A., the high (or low) mark in this is 23 by the 1968 team.
For a full season in L.A., the mark for fewest times shut out for the Dodgers is 3 by the 1958 team.
The 1965 team, notorious for is anemic offense, was shut out just six times. The 1966 team was shut out 17 times.
In 1908, Brooklyn was shut out 24 times. And the 1953 Dodgers were shut out just once.
by Bob Timmermann on Aug 15, 2010 12:24 PM PDT reply actions
Yikes.
But, nice to see you around, Bob.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Once the Dodgers get to 16 times shut out, they will tie the mark of the 1987 squad. That was the team that started the season with the Black Mike Ramsey experiment.
by Bob Timmermann on Aug 15, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
That will be cool. He has really had a nice year.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
If a player gets a September call up does it contribute to their service time?
Google before you Tweet. It's the new Think before you Speak.
Every day spent on an active roster is a day of service time.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Ya, I can’t find it either.
I’m interested in the Curry vs. Gordon line since that’s the last cut (even though those 2 are the only shooters in the backcourt but whatevs)
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd rather have
Curry for hsi range, but they are the 13th guy so its whatever for sure.
You ready for BB tonight?
Yup. I broke down and asked my wife (who searches for the spoilers) who won HOH.
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d rather have Gordon because he’s a shooter who can play D and because I’m a homer.
I don’t understand how they can go into this tournament with a half dozen PG’s and all of them are terrible shooters.
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
They prolly don't care
about shooters. They need Defensive replacements and guys that can spell Billups or Paul. They aren’t playing anyway.
I looked up who won HOH too. It should be a fun week.
You knew the HOH competition would be designed for that result.
Having shooters in international play is a good thing. It’s not like they have LBJ or Melo on this squad.
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Is JoJo
a basketball fan?
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 15, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
jerry sands 2-2 single and double
dee gordon 0-0 2 BB 3 Steals.
Withrow 4 Ks in 3 innings at leasst
Sands is kicking absolute ass lately
With how bad the offense started off the year in AA, they’ve now got Gordon, Trayvon, Sands, and Russell, and I think it’s 4 legit prospects (I’ve still got hope for Russell).
Keep it up, guys!
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
I'm convinced that
this is how Gibby spent the 80s
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
I’ve been asking myself the same question for like ten mins. But it’s the 80s! Everyone is genderqueer, right?
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 15, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Ha!
I can’t tell if that was a shot or a compliment! :)
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice line drive single by Matt
The first pitch of that at bat looked like it could have been mashed for a HR, though.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Larry Bowa thought Kemp should have hit a double just because Kemp has more talent than he had.
by Bob Timmermann on Aug 15, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, it does. It’s just like a walk. The only non-AB thing that hurts you in OBP is a sac fly.
Catcher’s interference calls are specifically not counted in the numerator or denominator.
by Bob Timmermann on Aug 15, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
SF = HIDP?
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 15, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
If it were socially acceptable, I would drape myself in velvet
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 15, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Stranded again?
Or who will pinch hit? Carroll? Blake?Stranded?
by berkowit28 on Aug 15, 2010 12:45 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I love how on ball 4 he looked back and threw his bat over slower than the last time
That was funny.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Ausmus has 3 grandslams in his career
I find it hard to imagine that he has 3 homeruns in his career.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Who's the ump today?
This one calls Haw! for strikes. Or occasionally How! as for the ball 4 he called strike. Or How. Why can’t they just shout Strike?
by berkowit28 on Aug 15, 2010 12:48 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I am strangely disappointed that we arent gonna get shutout today
Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?
all of Bob’s work, for nothing!
Nothing!!!
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Just and cut paste for the next time. I’m sure this team isn’t going to hold on 14.
by Bob Timmermann on Aug 15, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
On the radio earlier this year, Blake talked about how he has always struggled with confidence and that’s often led to underperformance on his part.
So, how come he isn’t psychoanalyzed like Kemp?
by Bob Timmermann on Aug 15, 2010 12:51 PM PDT reply actions
Because he’s a player of little consequence. Kemp is a member of the “core” who will hopefully still be here for the turnaround.
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
So if you’re older and not very good, the coaching staff essentially sticks you out on an ice floe?
by Bob Timmermann on Aug 15, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
That's what
they did to The Rocket in Rookie of the Year
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 15, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Why don’t the coaches analyze him? Because he’s gritty and embodies everything they love. Or so I’d imagine.
As to why the media ignores Blake its because nobody cares about Casey Blake. He’s a nobody. Why bother discussing him?
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Blake had just as good a season in 2009 as Kemp did, and an even worse 2010 season. He matters as much as Kemp does on this team.
This team doesn’t matter. At least not anymore.
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
He's still signed through 2011 and has an option for 2012
They’re not going to cut him, and I doubt they can trade him.
5-tools
players seem to get more scrutiny – everyone is always waiting for them to realize their potential. This year reminds me of Mondesi ca. 1999.
So eventually Kemp is going to run for mayor someplace in Oklahoma?
by Bob Timmermann on Aug 15, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
At least Kemp hasn't said this.
“I’m tired of all this. I told my agent to get me the fuck out of here as soon as possible. I can’t take this anymore. I’ve had to deal with this all year. I told them to trade me because I don’t want to fucking be here. Fuck Torre and fuck Colletti, they try to put all of our problems on me. They’re trying to say that all this shit is my fault. That’s the way they feel. Fine. Just get me out of here. Fuck Torre. Fuck Colletti. Fuck both of them.”
Belisario again in 8th?
Or quit while he’s ahead?
by berkowit28 on Aug 15, 2010 1:04 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
the A’s vs Twins game is getting interesting.
Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?
He had played every inning of every game since joining the club. This is his 17th game with LA.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s pretty much a lock that he’s starting 2011 as the LF, isn’t it?
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I think he can get more than $2 million next year from a team.
I just worry that team is the Dodgers.
We can only hope Trayvon comes up in September
and lights it up. Even if he did, I bet they would still try to resign pods though.
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
I think the Dodgers will end up re-signing him, yes.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I wanted Burrell 2 years ago and the Dodgers definitely didn’t. No chance they sign him after this season.
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Remember the homer he hit against the Rockies to clinch a playoff spot? Hit the top of the bullpen overhang between the LF wall and LF pavilion. I happened to be sitting down the line in the loge and saw it land clearly. I want to say Jose Lima started that game. I also remember Jose Lima staying on the field after the game and celebrating with the crowd.
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/6146430/
Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.
Ross was 13 for 83 after the Lo Duca trade.
by Bob Timmermann on Aug 15, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
There ain’t no MLB Network and there never was!
by Bob Timmermann on Aug 15, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m never seeing the MLB network unless I move to a neighborhood with Verizion FIOS. Since Chas Carey left DirecTV, I might rethink them.
by Bob Timmermann on Aug 15, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Twins announcers
are talking about his elbow. It was sore and he got lifted in his last start.
No chance he was getting to 110 pitches.
There ought to be a limit – like having lost by 10 runs or more – when PT changes the name of the show to Dodgers Dead.
by berkowit28 on Aug 15, 2010 1:44 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
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