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MiLB Dodgers 8/16/10 - Dodgers add an infusion of talent

Update: Make no make mistake this is big news. Some have questioned why Dodgers fans have reacted to this news with so much exuberance. To me it speaks to the heart of what really worry's Dodger fans. The future, and with the financial landscape littered with mines, many of us doubted the Dodgers even had the money to compete for this kind of talent until the mines have been removed,. The fact that they were able to make this deal has to give hope to those of us who were worried that our infrastructure would begin to resemble the American banking system,  so while the player himself may not make any impact for a number of years, just the fact the Dodgers made a serious investment in their infrastructure is very important today. This was a big day for Dodger fans and should be celebrated.


The big news was the record breaking bonus that Zach Lee got but the Dodgers were busy all day:

Earlier today, the Dodgers signed 11th-round selection Joc Pederson and 26th-round pick Scott Schebler to give them a total of 30 of their 50 selections from the 2010 First-Year Player Draft,

This draft now has serious potential,  and should stop all those reports that the Dodgers are dead last in spending money on amateur talent.  Much has already been written about Zach Lee so here is some information about Pederson and Schebler.

MLB Player Profile Joc Pederson - wait about 15 seconds for his video to start

Player Profile Joc Pederson

"He's out there hitting 500 balls a day during the summer," Paly Athletic Director and football coach Earl Hansen said. "He works, he earns it. It's not magic."

Pederson won the Mercury News Prep Baseball Player of the Year award. In addition, he was named co-MVP in the Santa Clara Valley Athletic League De Anza Division, and "Athlete of the Year" by The Viking.

This is not the first Paly baseball player to earn a Major League selection. Pederson's father Stu also played for the Los Angeles Dodgers for a short stint in 1985...


Player Profile Scott Schebler

From www.mackmets.blogspot.com

Scott Schebler:


7-21 from: - link  - OF, Scott Schebler, Wichita St, 6'2 210, L/R, this kid runs well for his size and is a FA currently but also committed to Wichita State for 2011. Arm is solid, glove is ok, doesn't get great breaks on balls hit in the gap but makes up for it in his quickness afoot, has a bit of a loop in his bat, not always though, he feels for the pitch at times. Reminds me some of former ML Gary Varsho (Cubs for one of the clubs he played for). May steal a base or two along the way, ran 6.8, 60 in workout.

Star-divide

AAA – Isotopes win 5 - 4 overcoming a horrific start from Haeger who walked five in two innings. Jon Link picked up the win by hurling two excellent relief innings, striking out four of the seven batters he faced. Not much has been written about Justin Sellers but the 23 year old SS is making his mark on this team. He clubbed his 10th home run and is now sporting an OPS of 1.190 since the all-star break. Sellers spent 2009 in AA but found himself back in A to start 2010. However when Hu broke his nose they jumped Sellers from A to AAA and he has responded by being the best hitter on the Isotopes since the All-Star game. As a SS.

 

AA –  Bastardo was demoted to AA after sucking in AAA, and hurled a solid 8 - 2 victory. This is probably where he belongs. Phil fave Javier Solano threw another inning of shutout relief work.  Matt Wallach slugged his 1st AA home run and has actually been doing just fine in AA with a .874 OPS since being promoted several weeks ago. The hitting star was Elian Herrera who had four hits (3 doubles) while playing 3rd base. I believe playing 3rd base is a new winkle for Herrera who has mostly been an outfielder.  The vaunted outfield went hit-less with Trayvon striking out four times, and walking once, so he never put the bat on the ball in five at bats. 

 

High A – No Game

 

A – Great Lakes was shutout 4 - 0, while being held to only three hits. Matt MaGill gave up only three hits in his six innings while striking out 7 but he also walked six. 

 

Rookie Ogden – Raptors were crushed 9 -1 with Antonio Castillo taking the beating. If anyone needs to be removed from the Raptor rotation it is Antonio, he is getting crushed on a regular basis.

 

Rookie Arizona – Dodgers win 6 - 4 with Hunt slugging his 2nd home run in two days.  JJ Baldwin had three hits as he continues his renaissance. 19 year old Gustavo Gomez picked up the win but the real pitching was done by  20 year old Andres Santiago who struck out five of the seven batters he faced.

 

DSL – Off day

Albuquerque Isotopes Box Score

Chattanooga Lookouts Box Score

Inland Empire 66ers Box Score

Great Lakes Loons Box Score

Ogden Raptors Box Score

Arizona Dodgers Box Score

http://firstinning.com/daily/la

http://www.minorleaguesplits.com/dodgers-recap.html

http://www.minorleaguesplits.com/milb-recap.html

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8.1 IP, 2 BB, 10 K for Solano in AA

by pdotmac1 on Aug 17, 2010 8:02 AM PDT reply actions  

He's been hit hard

twice in seven games, but is showing excellent control and the k rate is still great even with the jump in competition. As a 20 year old, that is impressive even if he does not have top of the line velocity. Getting advanced hitters out at 20 even in relief is a nice skill to possess.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

plus, the Lookouts broadcaster had so much to say about him that he must be a solid prospect.

by pdotmac1 on Aug 17, 2010 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

ha

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by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jim Callis on his blog
Zach Lee, rhp, Dodgers (No. 28): When Los Angeles selected the supposedly unsignable Louisiana State quarterback recruit, there were some industry insiders that the Dodgers would punt the pick to avoid spending money. Instead, they signed him for $5.25 million, tying Machado for the sixth-highest ever among high schoolers, and blowing away MLB’s slot recommendation of $1,134,000. The club will spread the bonus over five years under MLB provisions for two-sport athletes.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/draft/?p=2892

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by underdog on Aug 17, 2010 8:03 AM PDT reply actions  

Just curious, Kensai:

why do you think Zach Lee only projects as a #2/3 right now? If we’re talking upside, ceiling that is, everything I read from scouts, from Logan White and from others make it sound as if he can project to a #1 starter. 3 above average pitches with a great arm, as a high schooler? Now of course he may only end up a #2 or a #3 or could bust entirely. I like playing it safe and not overhyping him so don’t mind if that’s where he tracks, but just from what I’ve read in the past day and seen of him, a high ceiling as #1 seems not unreasonable.

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by underdog on Aug 17, 2010 8:07 AM PDT reply actions  

Because he's 18 years old

let us see how he actually performs against men, see how his arm holds up with steady rotational use. We have already seen that Martin seems to fade very fast as the season progresses and he’s got a powerful arm. I would guess that if Lee can maintain his velocity, continue to throw his offspeed pitches effectively, and not fade as innings pile up, then he has that potential but until we see what his arm can do, how could you expect him to be a number one?

Pitching in high school or off the mound for scouts is a different animal then pitching competitively hitter after hitter. He may breeze through Rookie or A ball but we really won’t know until he hits AA. JMO

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but

Why does that mean that his projection is only 2/3? Projection is based on what you see in those scout shows. What he projects at as a draft pick has nothing to do with his lack of performance, since no draft pick had any performance and analysts were hurling projections around at that point anyway.

by Penarol1916 on Aug 17, 2010 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

They did that with Aaron Miller and Ethan Martin too, if I remember correctly.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

What 18 year old

has a projection as a number one? I haven’t seen that being bandied about for 18 year olds. At least not by those who have any sense about what it takes to be a number one.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey Phil

What does it take to be, number 1?

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

mine

is a rhyme from elementary school. But thanks for explaining, I don’t listen to Nelly, but I’ve probably heard that song a lot. It was on the credits of some movie, i used to work in a theater.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2010 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

May have been the Chipmunks movie?

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

For me

someone who over at least a three year period been one of the ten best pitchers in the league.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://s0.ilike.com/play%23Nelly:%25231:12584:s131384.11752.11405442.1.1.25%252Cstd_61de5591c7c61f5e548e6e0ef5468728&sa=X&ei=7bRqTOfzH8P48Aa77tWFAg&ved=0CBYQ0wQoADAA&usg=AFQjCNHmZaULgvZicBCai2iN4a7-F_roVA

in related news, I’m in direct competition with Phil for longest link.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

But mine work:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ya I don’t know what happened there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9mFZq-JMfs

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Shelby Miller, or they say

Matt Kemp - Bringer of drought, puncher of babies faces(ugly ones killed on site), not Larry Bowa's GUY

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 17, 2010 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because he sits low 90s right now. His slider is excellent, but the only pitcher that had #1 stuff coming out of HS in recent memory is Kershaw.

An example of a #1 coming out of the draft is Strasburg. Do people realize what a #1 is? Cliff Lee, Roy Halladay, CC Sabathia, Josh Johnson, etc.

by Chad Moriyama on Aug 17, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

As long as Kershaw is here

There is no way he will be a number 1 :D

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 17, 2010 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Right now?

He throws 89.90 with good control and 3 above average pitches.

Hiroki Kuroda is a #2/#3 and he throws 92-94 with great control and 3 above average pitches.

If anything, i’m being generous.

If the velocity doesn’t change, he’s a #2/#3 upside. If he gains velocity, obviously it changes.

by Chad Moriyama on Aug 17, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously though

“Ace” is overused, and to think you can’t win without one is a flawed argument. But, this thinking that somehow being just a pretty good major league baseball player isn’t good enough is even worse. If Zach Lee turns into the next Chad Billingsley #2 starter, I’ll be fucking THRILLED.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right.

I’m just trying to get them to realize what a true #1 is from a scouting perspective. It’s an exceptional talent. There’s isn’t even always one in every draft out of high school.

by Chad Moriyama on Aug 17, 2010 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Count me in as one of the biggest doubters of this draft pick

I felt they punted, and never intended to sign him. Not only did they get it done, they got it done with an amazing bonus. Given how the Dodgers have performed the last two years, I have to admit that when they say they have an amateur budget, and it is separate, they must be telling the truth.

I was dumbfounded to wake up this morning and see the size of the bonus. Logan White must really have wanted this kid, maybe more then any player he’s ever drafted based on what he did to sign him.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 8:09 AM PDT reply actions  

it really was a shocking result.

I thought he would sign, but for something like low $3 million or something, thinking Lee soured on the idea of football after a few weeks of practice.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2010 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I honestly thought there was zero chance we would sign him.

I’m still shocked.

by pdotmac1 on Aug 17, 2010 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

When there were talks of him having to possibly redshift, I thought we had a chance. I also expected the number to be in the low to mid three million range.

by prosellis on Aug 17, 2010 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know this was way upthread

but I didn’t want it to get lost. This is a great comment by Phil and it’s exactly right.

Until last night, one could reasonably think that the Dodgers were being disingenuous when it came to their public comments about investing in the farm system. With yesterday’s news, that can no longer be true. They had a chance to get a real talent in this year’s thin draft, but it required overpaying. The Dodgers went in with eyes open, made an offer Lee couldn’t refuse, and he didn’t refuse it.

I was critical that had Lee not signed, the “well, we tried” responses would have rang hollow. Well, I think we can agree that had Lee turned down $5.25M, then I would have believed the “well, we tried” to be genuine.

If I may take my exuberance at this signing and add some irrationality… perhaps it is even an indicator that everything we’ve been led to believe about this coming offseason — that the Dodgers will be skimpy — is not true. I’ve been a bear for ‘11 by assuming that the Dodgers will not have the money to buy the missing pieces, but if the Lee signing — and I know, I know, I’m probably being foolish by even suggesting this possibility — is a sign that the Dodgers just might have some money to spend, maybe ’11 might not be so bad after all.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

is that the gin talking?

seriously, I want some optimism for next year as well. IhopeIhopeIhope.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Look, I'm still skeptical

It’s still wait-and-see. And I won’t be surprised if the Opening Day 2011 team is much worse than the Opening Day 2010 team.

I’m just saying it’s hard to tell if the waters are calming because the Dodgers are going to spend their way out of the hurricane… or if we’re in the eye of the storm.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2010 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m just saying I’m right there with you hoping this is a sign of good things to come.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

If we're in the eye of this tornado

there’s nowhere to go but up!

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

There is more reason for optimism about the offseason, I agree.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree, but I personally feel this is a down free agent market and could get us a hefty haul for Ethier out of the Crawford/Werth Sweepstakes losers.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

if one of Messrs. Russell, Sands, or Robinson were ready to slip right in, I’d agree.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think that matters. Sign vets to 1 year deals and trade Ethier for good AA infielders and bring up the Chatanooga team for 2012. Unless we are somehow able to get 3 good starting pitchers for about 10mil total, I don’t see us competing next year and would much rather build for 2012. Hopefully at some point in that time we are able to reconcile with Matty and sign Kemp, Kershaw and Bills long term.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m more concerned about signing three starting pitchers, and having enough money to do so.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

I suppose its possible

that Ned hasn’t been lying about payroll restrictions and they really were simply making what they thought were the best moves in terms of bettering the team in the most efficient way possible. If thats the case, I don’t know that I feel any better at all.

by prosellis on Aug 17, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not that any cares too much

but the DSL actually had a double header, in which they threw another no-hitter in the first game. It was only a 7 inning game, but still they are putting up some pretty solid pitching number. Then they turned around and got 1 hit in the 2nd game

by Brandon Lennox on Aug 17, 2010 8:23 AM PDT reply actions  

I think plenty care

they seem to notice when I don’t write about them, so they must be interested.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also nice to see Hunt

playing and hitting for Arizona.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 8:32 AM PDT reply actions  

Actual email I received with the subject "You're an Idiot"
To want a kid to forego college to play pro baseball is really stupid. Then again, if you went to school in CA you don’t have much of a brain. And when you don’t win the BCS game you don’t win the National Championship. Try using less mind altering drugs, you moron

by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2010 8:32 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

well Mr. Eric Stephen

your secret is out now. It is obvious to everyone that it was YOU who convinced Zach Lee to sign with the Dodgers and not play at LSU. Kudos on the facade sir, kudos indeed.

(golf clap)

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2010 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

How did he do it?

Eric Stephen really does have a lot of power as a blogger and he uses it.

I wonder if once he got Lee to sign he told LSU to go fuck themselves…

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 17, 2010 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

he just old Lee

if you sign with the Dodgers, you will be eternally Awesoke

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

especially when he is traded for Delino DeShields Jr.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

But we’ll give them a washed up Aaron Miller as well so they don’t feel bad.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

when he comes back from the DL and wins 2 games after a breakout rookie years some people were saying was a fluke

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

And strikes out 20 while walking 2 in his first 3 outings and becomes a franchise icon for the Astros after being a stud at Baylor. Baylor renamed to Aaron Miller University.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

He told them to

Geaux fuck themselves.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Aug 17, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

To try to address his point as though he made a serious and intelligent one, getting used to the idea of kids skipping college is probably a pretty foreign concept to somebody who is probably only a LSU football fan. It is so common place in baseball and used to be commonplace in basketball that we don’t think about it anymore, but if you are only a football fan it would probably take some getting used to.

Additionally, you have to question the age of the emailer. Does he/she appreciate how much money $5.25MM is? Lee is certainly not getting used here and the issue of NCAA basketball and football players getting used by the schools without seeing a cut of the profits should be a much bigger issue. The baseball system is much more fair (allowing 18+ year old adults make their own decisions on earning a living) in my opinion and basketball should move towards it.

by Michael White on Aug 17, 2010 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree that the NBA should have a similar system. no point in forcing the uber elite players to go to college.

by pdotmac1 on Aug 17, 2010 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

i think

it’s a maturity thing. They want those players to learn more about teamwork and etc. rather than come into the NBA with a gigantic ego and not mesh well with the team, killing the investment.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2010 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

If the teams want that so badly they can not draft them. Instead these players are being forced to attend college instead of playing in the NBA.

by Michael White on Aug 17, 2010 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is just stuff I’ve heard people say. Like KAJ was talking about a lot of the young stars coming up and just generally behaving like idiots, and he felt a college atmosphere would have helped them in being mature players.

I know next to nothing about Bball, so don’t shoot the messenger.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2010 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

That policy is also killing college basketball. How can you possibly build a sustainable program when you only get your best players for one year? Let those top tier kids go immediately into the pros and let the mid level kids stick a few years at a college program. College basketball would lose a lot of highlight generators, but the overall quality and competitiveness for each program would be higher.

by prosellis on Aug 17, 2010 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Has sure taken the steam out of the top colleges

but it has allowed the Gonzaga’s of the world to compete with the one and done crowd.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Gonzaga is a perfect example of what having players stick around for multiple years allows you to build. On the other hand we have 2009-10 UCLA, UNC, etc….

by prosellis on Aug 17, 2010 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I heard there is a movement to require High School kids to wait two years instead of one.

by Xeifrank on Aug 17, 2010 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m sure that movement is coming from the NCAA who is aghast that they lost the Kobes and Lebrons of the world and all the revenue they would have brought to the NCAA.

The “maturity” factor, while reasonable on a base level, was mostly a cover to get high profile players to go to college so the NCAA would stop bitching about losing revenue by these players just bypassing them and going straight to the NBA, IMO.

On a sidenote to the maturity arguement: since when does college offer LESS of an opportunity for an immature person to “grow up”. College is like a insulated bubble for every vice known to man, woman and child.

by SV Narine on Aug 18, 2010 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

They don’t have to go to college, right? Just be 19 years old or one year removed from High School (or something close to that). They are free to go play pro ball overseas. Personally, i think the High School+1 rule is unfair. With the rule, the NBA gains a slightly more polished player and the NCAA a cash cow for attendance and ratings. If the NCAA really wants to retain star basketball players the fairest way to do so is to setup some kind of payment system. This opens up a can of worms, but it likely can be done. Sure, the star NCAA player who decides to play one year in college (instead of going overseas) before going pro does get some hidden monetary benefit. One being the free education, but you also have to question whether or not this athelete is truly a student in the sense that he is likely one and done. The second thing he gets is the marketing exposure from playing on national tv etc…

by Xeifrank on Aug 17, 2010 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Basketball doesn't have a great framework for nurturing 18 year olds

as I understand it.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 17, 2010 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

If you get out of school with a 4-year degree

and get a job that pays $166,666 per year, in 30 years you make $5M in earnings. Now, I realize that that is just simple linear math, but it gives a little perspective to how big Zach Lee’s bonus is.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Aug 17, 2010 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting stuff you find

when you google something based on a comment.

http://thrasherswheat.org/jammin/lynyrd.htm

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

He makes a lot of fair points :)

by robotmadeofnails on Aug 17, 2010 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

the assumption

that everyone in CA is on drugs was pretty funny.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2010 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I assumed that when I moved back here in 1970

and I’ve seen nothing in 40 years to change my mind.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

i was just about to say

we’re not exactly proving anyone wrong.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2010 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

and that no one in Louisiana has ever done anything besides good ol’ fashioned upstanding citizens.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Parsecs

has always sounded more like it should be a measure of distance, not time to me. I don’t know why.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 17, 2010 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

hm...

that could make sense, if they are saying he was able to go so close to the wormholes that he only had to travel 12 parsecs

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 17, 2010 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

well

I think in the movie, Han meant it as a measure of time, but it actually is a measure of distance. It’s become kind of a joke, i think they even mentioned it in that Family Guy spoof.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2010 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Parsecs are indeed a measure of distance. One parsec is a little more than three lightyears.

by prosellis on Aug 17, 2010 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

I love that this spurred this discussion.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

From November to February I’m a total astronomy nerd.

by prosellis on Aug 17, 2010 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

From

a US gov’t report:

The number of reported methamphetamine laboratory seizures in the Southeast Region [Louisiana/Arkansas to the Atlantic Ocean, not including Florida] declined approximately 65 percent from 2004 (2,123) through 2007 (733); however, 2008 seizures reached 720 by the end of October and are on pace to surpass the 2007 total by year’s end
However, laboratory seizures from January through October 2008 totaled 155 and are on pace to surpass the 2007 total by year’s end—the first indication of a stabilization in production levels in the [Southwest – Texas/Oklahoma to Southern California (includes San Berdoo and San Luis Obispo counties, but not Kern)] region since 2004.
It’s just one stat, but it doesn’t seem like any one region has the high moral ground on drug users.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Aug 17, 2010 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

OTC Drugs

Just curious what the % of the population took zero OTC drugs compared to today, by age group.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Could be worse

could be Tennessee

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 17, 2010 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or Indiana

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

If you sort your email by subject

i’m sure you’d find quite a few more You’re an Idiot’s

by Greg Stephen on Aug 17, 2010 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ha

Sibling love, one of the great components of the family unit.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sweet. Which podunk little shithole town in Louisiana is that guy from, anyway?

I guess you better start looking into the witness protection program just in case these nutcases get serious.

by KellyStephen on Aug 17, 2010 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, all these idiotic CA colleges, what morons!

This guy is a real genius.

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 17, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Zachariah or Zachary

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 9:07 AM PDT reply actions  

I have to say

the only thing I am not a fan of with the Lee signing is that it’s Zach and not Zack.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2010 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wish they signed Zack Morris instead.

by delias man on Aug 17, 2010 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Zack Morris has more game than Zach Lee, but Morris is way too old to be a prospect at this point.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Zach Lee...

…strikes me as a Casey Kelly clone. Drafted late in the first round in 2008, the Red Sox considered him the most polished HS pitcher in the draft, but he was a quarterback recruit and had to be bought out of his football scholarship for $3 million. 89-92 FB that can reach 94, breaking ball with plus potential, above average change-up, plus command, smooth, athletic delivery. He dominated in low A in 2009, and did well when promoted to high A the same year. Now he is 20 and in Double A and has a ERA over 5.00, so some of the luster has come off him.

by CanuckDodger on Aug 17, 2010 9:09 AM PDT reply actions  

Good Pull

hopefully with a better result. Wasn’t there also talk of Kelly being a hitter and not a pitcher?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

There was a clause in his contract that made it so he could play (SS i think it was) and pitch in the first season at least

by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 17, 2010 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

I say ++ on the draft

If for no other reason than they weren’t punting it and were willing to invest 5mil towards the future rather than to some burned out veteran trying to save a lost season.

by EephusBlue on Aug 17, 2010 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

A solid "A"

Given the Dodgers draft position, landing the kind of talent they did is really astonishing.

by prosellis on Aug 17, 2010 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Great Draft, No Doubt...

… at least from the vantage point of the present. We will see how the selected players develop.

by CanuckDodger on Aug 17, 2010 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kelly was dominating with really low strike out rates though. Lee’s stuff has to be more overpowering than that, right?

by regfairfield on Aug 17, 2010 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

White said Lee's FB Sits "89-90" and Reaches 95

So no, Lee is not more overpowering than Kelly. But we don’t know if Lee will or won’t add velocity, like Withrow did. The positive with Lee is that he combines a good (but not great) arm with much more polish than we are used to getting in our HS pitchers. That basically describes Zack Greinke coming out of the 2002 draft.

by CanuckDodger on Aug 17, 2010 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

ha, I could live with that.

Forget all the scouting reports, I’m more impressed with how badly Logan White wanted this guy.

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by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

God dammit.

Is it just me or is polish a hell of a lot easier to develop than five MPH on your fastball.

by regfairfield on Aug 17, 2010 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Depends.

some of these scrawny ass 18 year olds with no man muscle can certainly develop added velocity.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

True, but I gotta imagine Lee’s a pretty big dude if he’s a highly recruited football player.

by regfairfield on Aug 17, 2010 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Perfect size

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by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Who wants to add muscle to a pitchers frame?

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by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not linebacker muscle, but added strength in your legs and core certainly helps when you’re able to exercise for a living instead of after 3rd period spanish.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I heard

that they feel if he just concentrates on baseball, he’d be able to add velocity.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2010 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Reg, I May Have Answer Your Post Different Last Year ...

…but now, after getting really tired of seeing guys with GREAT arms like Withrow, Martin, and Elbert suck this year, I am wanting some polish on my HS arms. Maybe White is feeling the same frustration I am with the the HS first-rounders I just mentioned.

by CanuckDodger on Aug 17, 2010 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed, there’s definitely a downside to just throwing, but guys that are getting through the minors with their approach rather than just overpowering seem like they’re more likely to struggle as they advance. It’s why I’m not a huge fan of Webster yet. Hopefully I’m wrong though.

by regfairfield on Aug 17, 2010 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with this

And I’m also concerned that Webster is blowing people away from his “great” stuff.

by Julio Nievas on Aug 17, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Deferring the money like this does mean that Lee can’t just skip town for football now, right?

Also, did we spend more in the draft this year than the last two years combined?

by regfairfield on Aug 17, 2010 9:16 AM PDT reply actions  

Speaking of quitting and people being clueless as to what happened

any updates anywhere on Elbert?

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

He is set to teach a Fall JC Class

on how to fuck up your career in one easy step after working for six years to get where you wanted to be.

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by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

are you joking

http://www.dingersblog.com

by dingers on Aug 17, 2010 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

No, it’s the final course in any two year degree. This way students are properly equipped for the future.

by prosellis on Aug 17, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

2008 and 2009 Drafts Combined...

We spent 8.4 million, so the answer is no.

by CanuckDodger on Aug 17, 2010 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

What are we upto with this draft class?

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by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I Think We Are Under 8 Million Now....

…and $4 million of that is deferred to pay off Lee over the next four years. So if you count what the Dodgers are paying this year, we aren’t doing anything out of the ordinary i way of spending.

by CanuckDodger on Aug 17, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tweet last night from Andy Seiler
@AndySeiler Surprise spenders are the Dodgers, coming in right around $7.5 million. Most of that is a 5 year Zach Lee deal, but still impressive.

by Julio Nievas on Aug 17, 2010 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

DeWitt with another home run

yesterday

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by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 9:23 AM PDT reply actions  

second half of the year at Wrigley > any other time of the year to hit at Dodger Stadium. Not surprised.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

New top 10: 7 pitchers, 3 position players

Sands
Rubby
Lee
Withrow
Trayvon
Gordon
Jansen
Webster
Martin
Miller

Our top 10 HAS to rank up in the top 15 now, right?

by Julio Nievas on Aug 17, 2010 9:26 AM PDT reply actions  

Don’t like Withrow over Trayvon, but otherwise, good list.

by silverwidow on Aug 17, 2010 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is my top 10 right now

1. Trayvon
2. Lee
3. Rubby
4. Sands
5. Jansen
6. Withrow
7. Gordon
8. Webster
9. Miller
10. Martin

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 17, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mine

1. Zach Lee
2. Trayvon Robinson
3. Jerry Sands
4. Rubby De La Rosa
5. Jonathan Garcia

by silverwidow on Aug 17, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Question: putting an 18-year-old who’s never thrown a professional pitch #1… is that more a reflection of Lee’s outstanding talent, or a reflection on the prospects in the system, or both?

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Both.

If Withrow had simply a “good” year, he’d still be #1. But his implosion has been a huge concern.

by silverwidow on Aug 17, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is odd. . .has it ever happened before this?
Unsigned Diamondbacks draft pick RHP Barret Loux will be granted free agency on September 1.

The D’Backs selected Loux sixth overall in this June’s first-year player draft, but backed out on signing him after a physical revealed a labrum tear and elbow issues. He will be free to sign with any major league club once September hits and should draw a large amount of interest. The 21-year-old right-hander out of Texas A&M is known for having great command of four pitches and projects as a front-line starter.

by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 17, 2010 9:28 AM PDT reply actions  

N Y Y

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Was he a senior? If he has no eligibility left and doesn’t signa pro contract, then yeah it should stand to reason that he’d be a free agent.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

and it’s not like Hochevar a few years back with the Dodgers…the D-backs declined to sign him, not the other way around

by bucknellbruin on Aug 17, 2010 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

they signed him

but he failed the physical with elbow and shoulder problems. So they can not sign him. I bet he talked to an agent and therefore lost eligibility or something

by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Aug 17, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m sure they could still sign him. They’d just probably want to renegotiate some smaller deal that is backloaded with club out clauses.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

sorry

i meant before he becomes a FA on Sept 1

by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Aug 17, 2010 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Diamondbacks had to back out because with the injury they will get a better player (safer) next year with the 7th pick. They could still sign Loux as a free agent and come out of this with him and getting a compensation pick next year.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

hard to imagine the D-Backs ponying up the money for Loux, though

http://www.dingersblog.com

by dingers on Aug 17, 2010 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why

they had it budgeted, now he will be much cheaper.

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by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wouldn’t the money they budgeted for him just roll over to next year’s #7 pick?

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Especially since at this point they’ll end up back near the top again.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Dbacks could end up having a tremendous draft next year because of not signing him. Number 7 overall plus however they finish this year…wow.

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 17, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

this is why I was kinda OK with not signing Lee

http://www.dingersblog.com

by dingers on Aug 17, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

its not the same with the 30th pick tho

plus next years pick would have to be signable as it gets because we would lose the pick if he doesnt sign

by matthewmafa on Aug 17, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

They could easily trade off some of their soon to be expensive underperforming talent if they need to save money.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Casey Blake cleared waivers right?

I know of at least two teams looking for a 3rd baseman. though if they want one who is underperforming the way Casey is…….

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Isn’t he doing well against lefties? Could be an interesting platoon option for someone like the Cardinals. His next year’s salary is probably the main sticking point in any trade talks.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Casey Blake vs RHP since July 1

.120/.204/.174 in 103 PA
31 K & 5 IF popouts
.164 BABIP

by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

even giving him the benefit of the doubt

bumping his BABIP to .295 by giving him 8 more hits (19 instead of 11), plus adding 2 more doubles…

his numbers are still bad: .207/.282/.283

by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

So, safe to say

this team really needs a left hand hitting 3rd baseman. I wonder where we can find such a beast? Maybe the Cubs?

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by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

A-ram

is a righty. Or do they have one in the minors?

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

scratch that

just realized what you were saying.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

It was my understanding

that they wanted to sign him, but when the injury was disclosed they didn’t want to blow the compensation pick. In this scenario they can sign Loux as a free agent, get the compensation pick at # 7. and still have the normal number one from sucking in 2010.

For a team rebuilding this is a fast way to get it done.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow

Are they going to have any type A guys not resign? They could wind up with a lot of picks in the first round.

by prosellis on Aug 17, 2010 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

The draft is way more helpful for teams than players, any free agent player can bargain with 30 teams, and not just 1. Additionally, marginal talents in the international amateur FA pool are signing more now than ever because teams are willing to throw the money at them.

You’re also competing against 29 other teams who only need money to sign him, regardless of his injuries. It’d be pretty shocking to me if Loux came out of this worse than if he signed with the D-Backs.

http://www.dingersblog.com

by dingers on Aug 17, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

They are also signing for more because teams think they are 16 and can grow them into baseball robots.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

although apparently i’m an idiot and loux was drafted way above where he should’ve been?

http://www.dingersblog.com

by dingers on Aug 17, 2010 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought they were still having budget problems, my bad

http://www.dingersblog.com

by dingers on Aug 17, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jeff Passan at Yahoo Sports had the following story a few weeks ago:

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-louxdiamondbacks080310

I feel sad for the kid, but here’s an interesting paragraph:

In the Diamondbacks’ eyes, Loux is damaged goods. Their medical staff’s customary MRI on Loux’s arm turned up two red flags. The first: Loux has a tear in his labrum, a shoulder injury that has ended careers. The second: Loux’s elbow, which had bone chips taken out in 2009, showed signs of eventually needing Tommy John surgery.

by KellyStephen on Aug 17, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dang

can he get them done at the same time and only rehab once? Next thing you know they’re going to find he has bone spurs in his wrist and arthiritis in his fingers.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow

I don’t think he’s going to be a big FA with that report.

by Julio Nievas on Aug 17, 2010 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hope he graduated from A&M with a useful degree.

by prosellis on Aug 17, 2010 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

that sucks

http://www.dingersblog.com

by dingers on Aug 17, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Someone mentioned that it’s because the DBacks chose not to sign him, not him refusing to sign.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lee will be 19 next month

Will he go the Tyler Matzek way and start in Great Lakes?

by Julio Nievas on Aug 17, 2010 9:42 AM PDT reply actions  

Easy next year

Gould was the only top draft pick to not pitch in A ball the year after he was drafted.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

For the Dodgers

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hope the Dodgers take this into account
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 17, 2010 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

His delivery is almost a carbon copy of Rick Porcello’s.

by silverwidow on Aug 17, 2010 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dan (Baltimore): Zach Lee appears to be a top-5 talent based on bonus size, does his talent merit the money?


Jim Callis: Remember, bonuses are based on talent and leverage. Lee had more leverage than just about any player in this draft, because he’s a gifted pitcher who was also a top quarterback. You could make a case that Lee was the second-best high school pitcher in this draft behind Jameson Taillon. If money weren’t a factor, I bet he would have gone 10-15 picks higher in the draft.

by Julio Nievas on Aug 17, 2010 9:49 AM PDT reply actions  

Last night I was reading something that said Lee didn’t have the stuff that Tailon did, but that his mechanics and control were better. Basically called it a toss up between the two. I forget where I was reading this, I will attempt to find.

by prosellis on Aug 17, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

What if Derek Jeter bought the Dodgers in 4 years?

Just sayin’

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 9:50 AM PDT reply actions  

he would have the greatest intangibles

of any owner in the history of baseball.

That said, Derek will still be playing in four years.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Player/Owner? Doesn’t baseball have something that forbids that.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would go looking for a very short bridge while carrying a very long rope.

by prosellis on Aug 17, 2010 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

The women who are stars of the Marvel Comics universe are featured in a new series called Girl Comics. Marvel plans to publish three issues of Girl Comics, an anthology written and drawn by women, as part of its Women of Marvel celebration, a yearlong campaign. The first issue was released in March and featured She-Hulk arm-wrestling with Iron Man on the cover.

For some reason my brain quickly conjured up RockNJosie arm wrestling Eric Stephen.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 9:58 AM PDT reply actions  

Somewhere in the blogosphere,

hundreds of readers printed this screenshot and went directly to the bathroom in the basement of their parents house

by Greg Stephen on Aug 17, 2010 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

hahaha

Great episode

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 17, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I did not! My parents don’t have a basement!

by KellyStephen on Aug 17, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Lookouts announcer says he can hit 100 mph.

by silverwidow on Aug 17, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

that’s about all he said.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also

FWIW the Lookouts website lists Will Savage as tomorrow’s starting pitcher, so unless the website is wrong (a distinct possibility) they could be skipping RDLR.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Found

An awesome scorecard app for the iPhone/iPod. iscore by ESPN. I am pretty pumped about this for scoring games at DS and for possibly scoring for our softball team.

by robotmadeofnails on Aug 17, 2010 10:56 AM PDT reply actions  

Nope….$9.99

If you want all the MLB rosters it is $20 bucks for a year.

I have enough free time here that I will enter in the Dodger roster myself, and then just add teams as I go.

by robotmadeofnails on Aug 17, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ha.

I rarely pay for apps, but I have a $10 gift card that I have been holding onto. You can do spray charts, pitch location, and people can track a game live on the internet.

by robotmadeofnails on Aug 17, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Let me know how it works

I might eventually get it. I always wanted an app like that.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just make sure

there is a quick macro button for “blown save”.

by Xeifrank on Aug 17, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

for what? You do not appear to be scorecard guy.

by delias man on Aug 17, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mostly because I don’t like lugging stuff around to the stadium.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is also one of those really cool apps you could have a dad use for Little League, especially if he has an iPad.

by robotmadeofnails on Aug 17, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lee

I’m thrilled that we signed Lee, but signing several young international players seems smarter.

by Duranimal on Aug 17, 2010 11:06 AM PDT reply actions  

i’ll just say I share the desire. the yanks are sure to throw quite a deal his way though.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d rather have Crawford for cheaper annual value and not 33 years old.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ramirez (calf) will be reevaluated on Tuesday and is likely to begin a minor league rehab assignment this week, the Dodgers’ official site reports. Ramirez has missed nearly six weeks now with the injury, but he appears closing in on a return. It remains to be seen whether the Dodgers will consider dealing him prior to the waiver deadline this month.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 11:10 AM PDT reply actions  

would he even clear waivers in time?

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sure he would

If he starts a rehab assignment Wednesday, even giving him a week means he can be activated by the 25th, giving him plenty of time to clear waivers.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

awesoke, if we trade him, I hope it’s to the Rays. And I hope he resigns there and plays well, just to stick it in Peter Gammons craw.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Man, I hope we deal him. Getting even a decent prospect back would be nice.

by OB12 on Aug 17, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I dunno, would rather have a draft pick compensation in next year’s draft than a PTBNL

http://www.dingersblog.com

by dingers on Aug 17, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

no way,

really???

http://www.dingersblog.com

by dingers on Aug 17, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

He might not reach type A anyway. He missed a lot of games.

by Tripon on Aug 17, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

… in both seasons. (Type is based on two seasons of performance.)

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Aug 17, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh, right, the option vestment.

i need a cup of coffee

http://www.dingersblog.com

by dingers on Aug 17, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

plus the fact that the Dodgers would never, ever, ever, ever offer him arb this winter.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

What we don't want to pay him 20+million again?

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 17, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tampa badly needs him

and Sonnanstine would be a cheap enough price.

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by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would support that deal.

by OB12 on Aug 17, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

If they did

they would have Manny and the Dodgers would save ~$3.6 million, so no.

Manny will not be claimed.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Question

I know Manny has a full no trade clause. Does that have any affect on the claiming process?

by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 17, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sure

if someone claims him, he can ask for more money to waive his no trade clause.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

So even if Boston claims him

and the Dodgers decide to let him go. . . does he still have to ok it?

by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 17, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes. If its a full NTR.

by Tripon on Aug 17, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yep

The Red Sox would never claim him, but if that exact scenario went down it would be the greatest day in history because there would be either a lot of hypocrites or a ton of awkward moments in Boston. :)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

He has to waive it to go somewhere else.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

far as I heard

if it’s to an AL team, he’d be open to it.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't the Red Sox

block it though?

Wouldn’t that be a headline: “REDSOX CLAIM MANNY RAMIREZ”

by Julio Nievas on Aug 17, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought we claimed him because we didn’t want him to go to the Giants? Or am I wrong?

by Julio Nievas on Aug 17, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

My point is that

if someone were to claim Manny, the Dodgers would let him go, and that team would be on the hook for the remainder of his salary.

In Dunn’s case, the Nats actually wanted to keep him and will try to sign him this winter, or get draft picks, so they pulled him back. That is not the case with Manny.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

If Manny is dealt we would both end up right based

on what we said in April.
1. Phil – Manny will not end 2010 on the Dodgers
2. Eric – Manny would only end 2010 on another team if the Dodgers had so many things go wrong they were no longer in contention. (my words, the exact wording may vary depending on how many beers you have dranken/drunken/drank/drunk)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

double checking

the team picking him up would pay a portion of the deferred money, not the rest of it, right?

http://www.dingersblog.com

by dingers on Aug 17, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Eric answers all TBLA salary questions

unless Dave or Mike is hanging around. Phil simply nods in agreement in an all knowing way.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

TBLA salary questions are easy to answer, since we can do the calculations using our fingers.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

The salary

is the joy of conversing with the Stephen clan and assorted other crack pots.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not a crackpot, but they have called me mad

and why? Because I dared to dream of a nuclear powered superman, with freeway on-ramps for arms!! And a heard as black as coal!!!!!

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

They would only be responsible for paying the salary he earns during the time he is with them. If in September/October it would be ~$3.6 million ($20m / 183 × 33).

For the Dodgers, Manny’s 2010 salary is paid out as follows:

2011: $5m
2012: $10m
2013: $5m

So if they were to dump all $3.6 million, from their standpoint they would save:

2011: $900k
2012: $1.8m
2013: $900k

Every little bit adds up.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

cool

thanks :)

http://www.dingersblog.com

by dingers on Aug 17, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I take this back

Chances are higher. I’m excited that he could go to the Rays.

by Julio Nievas on Aug 17, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would think that they would have a decent chance at resigning for something similar to what Vlad got last winter, since his home is in Florida.

by OB12 on Aug 17, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

who cares if manny comes back.

by delias man on Aug 17, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Because once Manny is activated

he can be waived, and then dealt.

If the Dodgers can somehow find someone to take on his entire salary from say September 1 on (33 days of the 183-day season), they would save roughly $3.6 million (in 2011-2013). Even saving a portion of that makes it worth it.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

I completely understand that.

But I doubt they are dumping him. Wake me when it happens. Ned was quoted to say he does not believe in that anyways. And even if they did find someone, it is not going to be for the whole 3.6 mil. When was the last time somebody got some serious salary dumped on them anyways in a waiver claim? Randy Myers 12 years ago?

by delias man on Aug 17, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nobody out there is as dumb as THAT GM.

by delias man on Aug 17, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

He gave us a pitcher

for the next season. I thought anyway.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

for the following year

for a month anyway. I thought at the time it was a decent move.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I won’t say I was pro-Loaiza, but I can say I wasn’t anti-Loaiza.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

In Manny’s case, the Dodgers in their minds have LF “covered” for the rest of this year anyway with Scotty Pods, so the loss wouldn’t be that great.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Right

Ned can stick to his convictions and move Manny. A win win for everyone.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, at least that one 10 foot circle in LF is covered.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Trade implications

Not that the Dodgers would trade Zach Lee. But with his option of quitting and returning to football, the Dodgers pretty much have to keep him. In that sense, he’s worth less than Dee Gordon.

by Tripon on Aug 17, 2010 11:15 AM PDT reply actions  

It’s possible, but you think he would do that?

by Julio Nievas on Aug 17, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I dont' understand this sentence

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s implying that Lee will go back to football if he gets traded. Thus, his trade value sinks.

I don’t buy any of it.

by silverwidow on Aug 17, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Like he'd only want to play for the Dodgers?

He’s a Dodger because we gave him 5.28 Million not because he gives a shit about our team.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

If he gets traded to the Pirates or the Royals, do you see him sticking with baseball?

by Tripon on Aug 17, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why would we trade him to the Pirates or Royals?

Are wez gettin Granick???

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 17, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

They might do it

And when I say “they might do it,” I am implying an affair between Granick and Lee. Let’s face it: they’re both hot dudes. Why would they resist each other?

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, we traded Lambo and McDonald for Dotel, both top prospects at one time.

by Tripon on Aug 17, 2010 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

You don't know what lifts his luggage, as Dan Savage might say.

Maybe he’d find Lee irresistible.

They might do it!

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eh, it’ll just be like a player returning from a Mormon mission. He’d just be Ben Olsen.

by Tripon on Aug 17, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Homer: Oh great! Mormons!

Kang: Actually we are Quantum Presbyhtarins

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jesus…we just signed the guy and you want to talk about trading him????

by KellyStephen on Aug 17, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's mad that the Dodgers actually did sign him

So he’s got to be douchey anyway to get everyone’s spirits down, lol.

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 17, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, just go back to Disneland.

by Tripon on Aug 17, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nevar!

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 17, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Last night

Felt like making up for all the walk-offs by Andre last year. Last year it felt like we were doing it all the time, now it feels like we are losing that way all the time.

by robotmadeofnails on Aug 17, 2010 11:36 AM PDT reply actions  

Kuo is here to break our hearts

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

But still

he’d be lying if he said it wasn’t easy.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

the easy way

is not the Dodger way.

I remember Vinny saying something like that last year. I think it was down the stretch when the Dodgers were trying to clinch the Div. Where it seemed like everything was going wrong, Vinny said something like “You didn’t think it was going to be easy did you? After watching this team for so long?” Heh

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kuo’s heart will never be broken because he doesn’t have one. They replaced his heart with a spare elbow.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think there needs to be some sort of investigation of the LAPD for this, and not Obama. That was outrageous yesterday.

by delias man on Aug 17, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just laugh

at the conservative media, who got all pissed at the liberal media for getting on Bush for everything, and then they turn around and bash Obama for anything and everything.

Hypocrisy, fuck yeah.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

your not a politician or pundit if you do not have the hypcrisy bone

and unfortunately that bone exists in everyone, not just conservatives.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

For Phil

from Eephus Blue, on Twitter:

This is directed at Phil, and I dont know if he reads these, but wow he hit the nail on the head RE: the impact of Z Lee signing

by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2010 11:45 AM PDT reply actions  

I've been twittered?

Does that mean I’ve hit the big time and can leave these digs behind?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Totally. you're big time now

Went the Twitter route because i figured the compliment would be lost in all the messages on here.

by EephusBlue on Aug 17, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well thanks

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@hansonscott: Just filed exclusively to NFL Network: Brett Favre is on a jet heading north. More details soon on NFLN.

by Julio Nievas on Aug 17, 2010 11:51 AM PDT reply actions  

Do it Brett, do it until they drag your battered and broken body

off the frozen tundra. Go out on your shield. Again

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

…And continue to agonize sports fans who are tired of your stories crowding the sports world.

by Julio Nievas on Aug 17, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'll just laugh AGAIN

when he blows their season with a stupid pick or two. Did it with the Packers against the Giants, did it in several games with the jets to bork them from the playoffs, and against last year.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 17, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ugh, I hate football and I hate Brett Favre even more than football.

by OB12 on Aug 17, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

haha i love it

Farve watch has become part of the fabric of our modern reality

by EephusBlue on Aug 17, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Too bad Richard Seymour does not get a chance to rip his head off this year.

by delias man on Aug 17, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rich Eisen

hilarious:

As Favre was taxiing down runway, flight attendant pulled the emergency slide upset that it’s taken him this long to decide if he’s back

by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

unrelated to anything of value

But this threadless shirt made Velma kinda hot

by EephusBlue on Aug 17, 2010 11:55 AM PDT reply actions  

One of the great crimes of Scooby-Doo

is the way they drew Velma. I’m sorry, Daphne’s hot and all, but she’s an airhead. Velma had brains. Why not make her every nerd boy’s fantasy? I wanted to want Velma, and I blame the artists that I didn’t.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

The new Scooby Doo cartoon, Mystery Incorporated

is basically a reboot, and one things they changed was give Velma boobs.

by Tripon on Aug 17, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Clipper Clown Sterling
Clippers owner Donald Sterling doesn’t sound too impressed with his team’s offseason additions, saying, “If I really called the shots we wouldn’t have signed Gomes and what’s the other guy’s name?”

Sterling didn’t stop there. “They told me if we built a new practice facility we’d attract all the top players in the game,” he said. “I guess I should have doubled the size of this place. I swear to you, I never heard of these guys.” This confirms the image of Sterling as a massively out-of-touch NBA owner…and for the record, the “other guy” is named Randy Foye.

by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 17, 2010 11:58 AM PDT reply actions  

Do you have a link for that?

I would like to skewer the shit out of that on SBN LA

by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yikes
“We had a chance to trade him for a No. 1 pick,” Sterling says while still trying to make the point he doesn’t call the Clippers’ shots. “My people didn’t want to do that. I would have.”

Speaking of DeAndre Jordan. Don’t let Mr. White see that.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha

I don’t blame him being unimpressed.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

this is why

all the clipper fans here chuckle when McCourt is called “teh worst owner evar!!!”

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 11:59 AM PDT reply actions  

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

what tha what?!?

That is a pretty damn good ’shop job

by EephusBlue on Aug 17, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Gordon right on point here
Eric Gordon said that playing with Baron Davis has been “good,” before adding, “We just need to get him motivated to really play.”

“As long as he stays motivated we know what he can do to help us,” said Gordon

by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 17, 2010 12:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Kind of pathetic if you ask me

then again Gordon was not exactly inspiring last year either.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is

Baron really only showed up for the big games. . . the Lakers, Cavs, Celtics, and games against the Warriors

by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 17, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bills is up to a 3.0 WAR :)

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=5842&position=P

Would anyone like to know something disturbing?

http://www.fangraphs.com/winss.aspx?team=Dodgers&pos=all&stats=bat&qual=0&type=6&season=2010&month=0

Jamey Carroll is 3rd on the team in WAR for position players.

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 17, 2010 12:04 PM PDT reply actions  

hot damn

whatta signing! best FA signing EVER!

by EephusBlue on Aug 17, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jamey Carroll is 3rd on the team in WAR for position players.

Yet another sentence that could be introduced with, “If you’d told me that in April, I’d have assumed that a lot had gone wrong.”

And, in fact, a lot has gone wrong.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

not a lot

just about everything that went right last year has gone wrong this year.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

seriously

I am amazed at how bad things have been for the Dodgers. AND how right they are for the Padres. This team was never synchronized

by EephusBlue on Aug 17, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Things that have gone right

Kershaw is an ace.
Billingsley righted the ship.
Kuo and Broxton both showed how brilliant they can be (even if of late they’ve been NSG)
Furcal, before he got hurt, was putting up the best season at SS the Dodgers have ever seen.
Carroll and Johnson gave the bench everything we could have asked for.
Padilla, after getting hurt, has been great.

Is that it? Everything else has gone wrong, yes?

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

DeWitt did a more then adequate job of handling 2nd base for a guy who had played the position sparingly
Ely was kind of awesome for a month
If you are going to use the SSS of Furcal then Andre was just about the best hitter in baseball until he hurt his pinky

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

i think this

is a good assessment. I am VERY happy that Billz is pitching well again. he’s been my favorite pitcher and I hated seeing him get dogged the way he did. I think him and Kersh are doing great, and I hope they get locked up. Think about it, they keep it up, and Lee is able to live up to White’s expectations. There’s a 1-2-3 combo for ya.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

You have Cliff Lee ranked last?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mike of MSTI did

Likely because of current level of development

by EephusBlue on Aug 17, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

You missed my joke

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

re-read Phil’s 3rd word :)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know, everyone said we should get Lee

Lee Lee Lee.

Mccourt went out at the draft and got us one :D

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 17, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did Logan White say that Zach Lee

could be a Roy Halladay as far as build etc?

by EephusBlue on Aug 17, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I believe he did, yes

And someone also compared him to Nolan Ryan, but people seem to be jumping the gun with those comps, though they should obviously be taken lightly.

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 17, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

NOOOOO

He MUST be the next Nolan Halladay! Let their powers combine!

by EephusBlue on Aug 17, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thats the downside of the draft

I get all excited about what could be, then have to wait several years. Which makes Kershaw so much more amazing. He came on so fast. Now I expect EVERYONE to get up here by 21.

by EephusBlue on Aug 17, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

so does everyone else

that’s why when a guy is 25 in AAA, he’s “organizational depth”

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

and to commerate, Tenacious D

Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee,
Lee Lee Lee Lee Lee Lee Lee Lee Lee,
We’re talkin’ fuckin’ Lee.
I had a friend named Lee,
He cast a spell a spell on me.
If me and Lee and KG could be three,
Flyin’ free Tenaciously,
Skinny-dippin’ in a sea of Lee,
I’d propose on bended knee
To Lee Lee Lee, Lee Lee Lee,
Lee Lee,
Lee Lee Lee, Lee Lee Lee,
Lee Lee,
Le-Lut-Le-Le-Le-Lee Lee Lee,
Le-Lut-Le-Le-Le-Lee Lee,
If me, and Lee, and KG, (that’s me)
Could be free, (could be three)
Plant a tree, (plant a tree)
Just for Lee, (just for Lee)
Just for Lee, (Lee)
Just for Lee!
Lee, Lee, Lee: [“Psycho” Knife Song style, 16X]
Leeee, Leeee, Leeee:
LEE!

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bills is my second favorite Dodger pitcher, and I’m rooting for him to succeed so much. He and Kershaw as a 1-2 punch has the potential for 10-12 WAR between the two over the next 2-5 years (if they get extensions like they should).

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 17, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kuroda stayed healthy.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Aug 17, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

1.5 WAR for those who refuse to click links

I don’t know who those people would be, though, lol.

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 17, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Dodgers top 3 starting pitcher's WARs are

Kershaw – 3.4
Billinsgley 3.0
Kuroda – 2.7

Hot damn that is awesome. I was looking through a few days ago to see the top 3 for a lot of teams, and the Dodgers are just about the most balanced 1-3 in baseball. There are a handful of teams that have a really great 1 and 2 pitcher, but I don’t think there were more than 2 or 3 other teams with a 3rd pitcher at 2.7 WAR or higher.

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 17, 2010 12:07 PM PDT reply actions  

My friend Maria posted a status of R.I.P. Bobby

and I was like, whaaa? It was very confusing for a minute, especially when I asked her who Bobby was and she said “you…oh wait, Bobby Thompson”

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 17, 2010 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I posted that on Twitter with the line “Ralph Branca won the war.”

by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

If Ralph dies today

like Jefferson / Adams that would be freaky. To bad he couldn’t wait until the anniversary of the home run.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man you are one sick bastard.

Excellent!

by KellyStephen on Aug 17, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sure Vin

will give him a few words during tonights game.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Today is Clipper gold day
The Clippers had a chance to trade DeAndre Jordan for a first-round draft pick, according to owner Donald Sterling, but they declined.

“My people didn’t want to do that,” said Sterling. “I would have.” This vote of no-confidence in Jordan probably doesn’t mean much, as Sterling was trying to emphasize that he doesn’t make all the decisions in LA-LA land. Jordan is poised for solid minutes backing up the Clippers frontcourt and could be a fantasy force if Chris Kaman gets injured.

by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 17, 2010 12:14 PM PDT reply actions  

I put that up under your original post

but the TJ article was full of funny nuggets.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

— Dave Stewart, the agent for Dodgers center fielder Matt Kemp, might simply have been defending his territory when he spoke out on behalf of his embattled client last week. Stewart nearly lost Kemp to Scott Boras last off-season, according to a major-league source.

Kemp, at times, appears a scapegoat for the Dodgers’ troubles, but his inattentive play and resistance to instruction are legitimate concerns. Stewart, one of the game’s fiercest competitors in his pitching days, likely would not have tolerated some of Kemp’s actions.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/how-bankrupt-texas-rangers-ruled-trade-deadline-081710

Fucking Kemp, can’t make up for Scotty pods shitty fielding.

by Tripon on Aug 17, 2010 12:19 PM PDT reply actions  

haha I like that little editorial pot shot at Stewart in the last sentence

http://www.dingersblog.com

by dingers on Aug 17, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

why was he not right behind Pods when he overran that ball….lazzzzzzzyyyyyyyy.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Must be lunch time? It died in here

by EephusBlue on Aug 17, 2010 12:37 PM PDT reply actions  

So i just found out on my paychecks for my taxes

I am claiming 2 dependents and it says I am married…I’m a little lost on why it’s like that, as I am pretty sure I put 0 and single when I started working here.

I can’t wait to start getting screwed by federal taxes starting next paycheck.

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 17, 2010 12:41 PM PDT reply actions  

ha

I remember when i was for some reason listed as having a dependent. I ended up not getting a refund and having to pay more at the end of the year.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

That sounds lame!

I just asked my boss to change it to 0 dependents…I really hope that doesn’t screw me when i get my return, I haven’t given ANY federal taxes this year.

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 17, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I haven’t given ANY federal taxes this year.

Way to go, McCourt

by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do you think they will realize I’ve been milking my charity for spending money?

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 17, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

are you charging rent to yourself?

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Doesn’t everyone?

Charge yourself rent —> ? —> Profit

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 17, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha!

When you get your return…..that is funny

by keithc13 on Aug 17, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

lame! :(

I didn’t get one last year either :(

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 17, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do the same thing

I refuse to let the fed take money from me in advance without me collecting interest on it. They take out a 0% loan from taxpayers every year and I won’t let them take it from me. I just make sure I save more than I am required to pay in taxes then write one big check at the end of the year. At least this way I’m getting a couple % on my money before paying it out.

Would not recommend following my strategy if you are not a good saver.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am NOT a good saver, haha

If I was I would use your method, though.

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 17, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Isn't there a penalty if on April 15

the check you write is too much? I forget the details, but I’m pretty sure of this. The IRS loves to get their money.

I never want a refund either, but I don’t pay a penalty either. I try to send a three-digit check to the IRS every April 15.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Aug 17, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not a CPA, but...

Start socking away some extra money, chief.

by Real DL on Aug 17, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

gdamnit!

Glad I realized it now and not in December or something.

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 17, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can’t you contact the IRS and start making estimated payments to avoid a lump sum balance when you file?

by prosellis on Aug 17, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

You can have additional $ withheld by your employers

There should be a box on the W-4 to add $X per week to the withholding.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Aug 17, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

What if we only signed Zach Lee this year because they plan on going after a certain Type-A free agent and knew they would be losing next year’s pick anyway.

With that in mind, where do we stand as far as 2011 draft position and would it be protected?

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 12:59 PM PDT reply actions  

We stand at #15.

Yes, protected…right now.

by silverwidow on Aug 17, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh shit really?

well something to be happy about….err….well no not really

by EephusBlue on Aug 17, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah i was wondering this too

how does draft pick protection work? Is it the top 10 are protected? No way we get such low pick

by EephusBlue on Aug 17, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

so we are right on the edge.

On the walk into work i mused that we should just sell and call up AAA arms to see what they can do. and then realized we really dont have anyone in AAA that would be worth seeing

by EephusBlue on Aug 17, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Count me in the group that wants to see us lose every game the rest of the way out without anyone getting hurt. Much like I wanted us to be sellers at the deadline, there is no point in winning games after it’s clear you can’t win enough to squeek in the playoffs.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

well i dont want to cheer for them to lose

but if they do suck so bad, the silver lining is the draft pick is protected. We are at the stage of the season where we have to look for every little positive thing.

by EephusBlue on Aug 17, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ya, I can’t bring myself to ROOT for a loss, but I’m no longer upset by losses. I want to see us win every game all the time without exception, but losing just won’t evoke any bitterness from me at this point.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

The approach I am trying for

Take each game as an individual contest, separate from the season as a whole. That said, its a lot harder to say this than to do it. I still find I get angry at times. A lot of the frustration is that i know these turkeys can play better than they are.

by EephusBlue on Aug 17, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

re is no point in winning games after it’s clear you can’t win enough to squeek in the playoffs.

I understand your point, and I certainly want the Dodgers to get the best pick they reasonably can, but I don’t know that I agree entirely with this.

The Dodgers are, first and foremost and maybe only, entertainment. The players promise to play their best and put on a good show for the paying customers. We can apply more to it because it is sport, but I don’t know if that’s right.

The paying customers who come to Dodger Stadium want to see the Dodgers win. Even if a championship is not to be, they can maybe win this one game, while I’m here, in the crowd, having a good time.

I wish that for those fans.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

If nothing else, those fans are the ones paying for the draft picks. The Dodgers gain nothing from me commenting on a blog. I have also resigned to not attend anymore games this year because I feel everytime I go I am not seeing a quality product. It is especially frustrating to see more and more opponents fans proudly wear their team’s gear into LA with that smug ass look on their faces.

None of this is me being upset, bitter, emo, whatever. It’s just saying I want us to be able to sign Type-A’s should we magically be able to and still have a first round pick.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

However

even with the exuberance of a post-Lee-signing world, are there really any Type As people think we will sign? I guess I just see them targeting a series of lower level types. Then again, maybe a Hudson falls into their lap again.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

AH! damnit

you’re right about choosing not to attend games as the product on field is shoddy. I agree with you that its a bitter taste when you pay good money (especially in these times) to watch something poor. But Ive had these reds tix a while now :( This is the first series I will see this season (and maybe last, unless Sands is called up in Sept. in which case i want to see him play)

by EephusBlue on Aug 17, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m still going to games because there are still players I enjoy watching. And not to justify this year’s performance, but we’re still not the Pirates, Royals, Mariners, etc…

by prosellis on Aug 17, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

There are plenty of good reasons to still go to DS.

You are going to get a good starting pitcher no matter what from the Dodgers. At least you know the game will be close. Billingsley and Kershaw are worth the price of admission alone.

by delias man on Aug 17, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Plus

It’s baseball.

If you went to games in 2005 — and I did — you can go to games now.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I for one

am excited to go to tonight’s game

by delias man on Aug 17, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Please don’t let me trump your excitement for any present or future games you may attend. I’ve been frustrateed with attending games since I bought front row tickets to see Billingsley dominate Rodrigo Lopez in April only to see one of the worst played games I’ve seen.

I hope the next game and any next games after that is the best baseball game you’ve ever seen.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

You will not break me.

by delias man on Aug 17, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

A fan is a fan is a Fan.

Exactly right about the players. Even though TEAM is not successful there are still some bright spots on the team. I just hope that when I go to the next game I get to SEE some bright performances. Last year I went to six games(and I live 3 hours away). All but one of those games was a WIN.

This year I’ve been to.. let me check… oh that’s right ONE. And that was a crappy loss to the Angels.

It does make you pause to think about spending your disposable income on the next 2010 Dodger game (or Fed tax money if you are ivdown) but you still have to go because you are a fan. I’m going to see them play the Rockies in September. Of course, by then, it may be even less meaningful as far as the record but still, I love Dodgers. Plus, I need one more Dodger Dog to help make it through till 2011.

by RawhideBlue on Aug 17, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am rather stoked to see padilla pitch

 if for nothing else than to see him throw the Eephus

by EephusBlue on Aug 17, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I see this Lee signing(great for talent of system,etc) as more of the same…namely defered payments, shell games with money, an eye towards PR…I’d love to get one OF(Kemp) and Billz signed long-term then trading the other OF (Ethier) to add more talent to the farm.
The last thing we’ll see IMO is a big time type A free agent coming here. Ned’s probably looking for ways to trim payroll right now…

by megaballs on Aug 17, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Technically

the Dodgers and Angels are tied at 15 & 16, with a 60-59 record. If that ends up the case at the end of the season, a coin flip would determine which “LA” team has a protected pick.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I gotta think with our upcoming schedule that we’ll push for #14 or 13.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought it went by last year’s record to break ties? The Angels were better.

by silverwidow on Aug 17, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good catch. You are right

by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Padres GM not happy about getting Hochevared

from a producer at 1090 radio:

Hoyer "We had a verbal agreement and usually those things stand up. We had the rug pulled out from us by the family. "

Link to radio interview.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2010 12:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Dodger Nation weeps for your loss, Jed.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

sad trombone

http://www.dingersblog.com

by dingers on Aug 17, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

On 1090

I personally listen to 1090 sports radio all the time because they focus on sports…I can’t listen to Hartman, Petros, etc here on LA radio.
Am I wrong? Anyone else?

by megaballs on Aug 17, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Would

Kevin Towers let himself get screwed like that? No, he would just draft Matt Bush instead.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Aug 17, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Breaking news

Lou Gehrig may not have had Lou Gehrig’s Disease. I mean, he certainly had Lou Gehrig’s disease, but he may not have had Lou Gehrig’s Disease.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/18/sports/18gehrig.html?_r=1&src=me&ref=homepage

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2010 1:11 PM PDT reply actions  

The answer is all in the capitalization.

Lou Gehrig’s Disease is the common name for ALS.
Lou Gehrig’s disease is the disease Lou Gehrig had that led to his untimely death.

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by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm still extremely confused

What did Lou Gehrig have?

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 17, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

To clarify:

Lou Gehrig had the disease he had but not the one they think he had that people who have call his.

by prosellis on Aug 17, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

What disease

is currently affecting the Didgers?

by RawhideBlue on Aug 17, 2010 1:18 PM PDT reply actions  

or Dodgers? I haven’t been commented in a long time and I blew the first one!

by RawhideBlue on Aug 17, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Apathetic Littleball Suckage.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of the Dodgers offense

I never thought this would happen. 2010 offenses:

Padres: 4.42 runs per game
Dodgers: 4.36 runs per game
Giants: 4.35 runs per game

by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2010 1:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Aaaaaand.....

Suck it, Bobby Thompson.

by prosellis on Aug 17, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I’m not PC like at all, but this still seems wrong.

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 17, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

On the day Heath Ledger died I said

“What’s the difference between Heath Ledger and Heath Ledger jokes? Heath Ledger jokes will get old”.

Agreed, suck it Thomson.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, see you in hell

From heaven :P

If they even exist, haha.

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 17, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I, for some reason, don’t think Bobby Thompson even wants Dodger fans mourning his death. He would expect nothing less of us, its a testament to his legacy.

by prosellis on Aug 17, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

wow we are averaging 4.36 runs a game?!? feels like 0.2

by EephusBlue on Aug 17, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

3.10 since the break (31 games)
4.05 since first Cincy series (104 games)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bob Timmermann at LA Observed

on the crabby LA Dodgers. I, not surprisingly, like this paragraph:

Bowa, who thought Jim Edmonds didn’t try hard enough when he was on the Angels, and thought Scott Rolen didn’t apply himself well enough when he was on the Phillies, has come across as one of the least happy and most unreasonable of any member of the Dodgers coaching staff since Leo Durocher worked under Walter Alston. Bowa’s continued employment by the Dodgers (or by any team) is a tribute to the sport’s time-honored tradition of hiring hard-ass coaches to do the dirty work of managers. It has been difficult to see what sort of tangible benefit the Dodgers get from employing Bowa. Aside from runners being told when to try to score from second on a single.
In tonight’s game thread, we should images of Lucy Van Pelt for luck.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Aug 17, 2010 1:28 PM PDT reply actions  

That is an outstanding paragraph.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love this line

“It has been difficult to see what sort of tangible benefit the Dodgers get from employing Bowa. Aside from runners being told when to try to score from second on a single.”

by EephusBlue on Aug 17, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here's an idea

Mngmt has problems with Kemp, yet we pay to watch Kemp.
Use the lost 2010 season and Torre’s retirement to clean house on the managmnt side.
Lose Bowa. Keep Kemp.
Maybe get someone who gets along with Kemp.
I wonder if Shpunt would approve

by megaballs on Aug 17, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m okay with cleaning managerial house, but I don’t think the next staff should be hired based on how well they get along with Matt Kemp. I don’t like all the heat Kemp has taken, but it is possible he is a complete ass that will always struggle with management.

by prosellis on Aug 17, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

The bat girls should be Rihanna and Anna Benson. Any “management” beyond that will be left up to the players themselves.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lucy Van Pelt

After a TOOTBLAN or a Kemp CS/defensive miscue: You blockhead!

And then, after they lose: Of all the Los Angeles Dodgers in the world, you’re the Los Angeles Dodgerest!

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I fully expect the Dodgers to turn it around this weekend

against cincy. in 2006 the first series i attended was against cincy and they went on their streak to win the wild card. I fully expect the same thing to happen.

by EephusBlue on Aug 17, 2010 1:29 PM PDT reply actions  

I think there is probably some really witty response to this, but I’m just kind of dumbstruck. What the… How the…. Who…. Oh God.

by prosellis on Aug 17, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Clearly the guy should have used a coke bottle instead of water.

All I know is I will be looking at every water bottle (which is a clear substance by the way!!!) I drink from here on out.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can I change the winnings you made off the GA bet to a water bottle from a Dodger Dog?

by Tripon on Aug 17, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I might not drink anything that isn’t still sealed.

by prosellis on Aug 17, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

im not an expert

but since when does that make you sick?

by delias man on Aug 17, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

So you’re confirming that you’ve never gotten sick from ingesting that substance?

by KellyStephen on Aug 17, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

right

because I never have. But I know many who have and do not claim to get sick from it.

by delias man on Aug 17, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Must have been a married woman who drank the tainted water.

by KellyStephen on Aug 17, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

How did he get into that little hole?

by KellyStephen on Aug 17, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Random musing

A high first rounder draft pick is worth more in Football and Basketball than in Baseball. But a late first rounder is worth more than in Football or Basketball.

by Tripon on Aug 17, 2010 1:49 PM PDT reply actions  

First rounders, no matter where picked, are expected to make an impact on the team immediatly

90+percent of the time.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 17, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also,

a “late rounder” in football is the 3rd-7th round, and basketball it’s the 2nd round only, whereas in baseball a “late rounder” is really anything after round 7 or so.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eric,

I downloaded the app, and it is pretty cool.

by robotmadeofnails on Aug 17, 2010 2:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Arizona Rookie League

I saw the game last night and while I was impressed with Baldwin’s athleticism and defense (he made 2 big league plays in center including a diving catch on a sinking liner) all is not as great as the box score might lead one to believe. 3 hits are 3 hits, but the first two were cue shots off the end of the bat that went about 20 feet each.

He seems to have all the tools, but he does a whole lot of nonsense with his feet and arms/hands which makes his swing long and slower than it should be. The coaches want him to spread his legs out more and not have a Strawberry-inspired leg kick. If he listens and can get over the uncomfortable new swing feel, he should progress very quickly.

by Scioscia14 on Aug 17, 2010 3:01 PM PDT reply actions  

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