Dodgers Squeezed Out Of Wild Game By Bowa Constrictor
by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2010 10:52 PM PDT
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PrintDown 3-2 with Reed Johnson on first base with two outs in the bottom of the 10th inning, Scott Podsednik lofted a pop fly single just out of the reach of a diving Dexter Fowler, who recovered to throw to Troy Tulowitzki, who delivered a seed to home plate and Johnson was out by about 20 feet.
Maybe someone should yell at third base coach Larry Bowa for a change. Look, there were a lot of reasons for the loss tonight, but it might be nice for the chronic blamer to get some of his own medicine.
The Dodgers scored their first run with the benefit of two wild pitches from Jason Hammel in the first inning.
The Rockies scored their last run with the benefit of three wild pitches from Octavio Dotel in the 10th inning.
Dotel became the second Los Angeles Dodger reliever ever to have three walks and three wild pitches in the same game, joining Fred Norman, who turned the trick (with four wild pitches) against the Cubs on August 14, 1970.
WP - Rafael Betancourt (3-1): 2 batters, 2 strikeouts
LP - Octavio Dotel (2-3): 1 IP, 1 run, 3 walks, 3 wild pitches, 2 strikeouts
Sv - Huston Street (9): 1 IP, 2 hits, 1 strikeout
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Nice headline comes out of this one at least ;-)
So will Matt Kemp be allowed to call Bowa out for his lack of thought and effort?
If nothing else, it’ll be good to see a coach take the firing squad for once. Lack of offense is again the culprit overall but the utter stupidity of that final move is piece de resistance. Very sad.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I bet he defers the blame to johnson
“If Reed were a professional veteran, he would have known that I don’t know what Im doing at third base. I wave my arms around all the time, even between innings”
-Larry Bowa
“If i don’t wave my arms around constantly, my temper will explode and Matt Kemp will be benched for three games for no reason”
by Taylor Maricle on Aug 18, 2010 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
We can't keep inventing ways to lose
This is getting hilarious now
I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.
Good.
Finally, hating on someone who deserves it.
by Taylor Maricle on Aug 18, 2010 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions
"That’s certainly what I would have done"
I’m sorry, what?
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by angelofdeath on Aug 18, 2010 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Of course he would say that. You can’t spell Joe Torre without PR.
Well you can but you get it…nevermind.
This is super cool
Behind-the-scenes, War Room footage on the Zach Lee pick.
There’s a chance that we could’ve taken Noah Syndergaard (who went 38th) if Lee somehow was gone.
missed the entire game
whats this news about Bowa?
Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?
He sent Reed Johnson from first on a bloop to CF
that briefly squirted away from Fowler. Johnson was thrown out by a country mile to end the game.
Larry Bowa was trying to get loose like Broxton in the bullpen. Reed Johnson’s confusion costs Dodgers game.
by Alex41592 on Aug 18, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Johnson is a gritty veteran
Maybe if an inexperienced player like Kemp, Loney, or Ethier had been out, then the Dodger brass would say that Bowa was trying to put up a stop sign.
by The Dude Abides on Aug 18, 2010 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuck Torre for saying that about Bowa (and his idiotic full count squeeze with the pitcher on deck). I’m so tired of his act and cannot wait for him to get out of town. And Bowa can screw himself, as well. The level on ineptitude from the owner to the GM to the coaching staff in this organization is startling.
Winning is fun
however, this losing is getting ugly
by 68elcamino427 on Aug 18, 2010 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm beginning to think 2009 was the anomaly season...
2005 – bad
2006- average
2007- average
2008- average
2009 – good
2010 – average
Dodgers did get hot in 2008 to make the playoffs and eventually the NLCS, but really its not like this team has been a juggernaut.
Anomalies only count for individual players.
The team has changed almost completely since 2005.
by Taylor Maricle on Aug 18, 2010 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions
2006 was average? In what universe is 88-74 average?
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Also, 2009 was great, there is no denying that at all
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I found video of Larry Bowa sending Reed Johnson home
by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2010 11:09 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
That’s what you see when you look in his ear?
by 68elcamino427 on Aug 18, 2010 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions
12 games back in the West.
8 games back in the Wild Card.
No more if they go on a run they have a chance crap. It’s over people. Shoot the damn rabid dog already.
Man, I don't remember Dotel doing anything like that in Pittsburgh.
What happened?
Also, thanks for JMac and Lambo.
How long until Billingsley is headlining that rotation
Oh god, I feel uneasy even joking about that :/
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
LOL...we don't believe the first line in your comment
by The Dude Abides on Aug 18, 2010 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Just looked through his game logs.
Had three really bad outings against the Brewers. I missed all three because in Iowa, they blackout the Brewers.
by IAPiratesFan on Aug 18, 2010 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Thing about the James McDonald deal is the Dodgers will need 3 starters for next year. I’m really surprised they gave up on him given the needs for 2011..
Just beyond idiotic to buy at the deadline this year.
I’m not. Ned panicked at the deadline and they had already given up on JMac. From Ned’s perspective, he was trading a failed starter prospect and current unreliable reliever along with an iffy outfield minor leaguer for an upgrade in the pen. Now, he is probably the only person in the entire baseball community who saw it that way, but unfortunately for us, he gets to make the decisions. Dont even bother with the fact that JMac is under team control, had already put up numbers in the pen comparable, if not better than Dotel, etc.
by UCLADodger32 on Aug 18, 2010 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Happiest man in LA tonight: DoteLOL
Thanks, Larry
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Jeff Kent will visit the clubhouse so he can yell at Kemp for moving the trashcan.
by Tripon on Aug 18, 2010 11:11 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
You're serious? That's fucking depressingly sad
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Better things he could have done with those. I just hope he isn’t lumping the fans in with the coaches/staff. I think the consensus is that we all like him and want him to succeed.
Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.
Who did that?
That seems like a fighting move, imo.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I get that, but it’s gotta hurt knowing you spent all that time doing something nice for someone only for a third party to trash them. I assumed they were in the trash because either someone else put them there in anger or the people expected to get them no longer wanted them.
Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.
0.45%
is what I have the Dodgers chances of winning the NL West if I simulate out the rest of the season for all the NL West teams.
there is still HOPE!!!!
Torre still believes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?
When do we get to the negative part of the equation?
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by angelofdeath on Aug 18, 2010 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions
TWHS
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by angelofdeath on Aug 18, 2010 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions
bring back Juan Pierre and put him in CF!
Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?
Pods played in CF today?
ah didnt catch that.
Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?
It was stated by someone before, but I do miss Bhsportsguy.
I need someone to fight for management. When everyone agrees here that Ned sucks, its sort of boring.
What are you talking about?
Ned has done a wonderful job putting together contender after contender year in and year out
I see what you did there
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by angelofdeath on Aug 18, 2010 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Ned got us Blake!
We won that deal because Santana got injured, obviously the exact same thing would have happened if he were a dodger. ’Twas his destiny.
by Taylor Maricle on Aug 18, 2010 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I never thought I’d miss Glenn Hoffman.
"A baseball game is nothing but a great slow contraption for getting you to pay attention to the cadence of a summer day."
If you're blaming Kemp for not hitting sliders, than blame everyone else for not being able to hit fastballs.
by Tripon on Aug 18, 2010 11:18 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Seems like Manny will rehab for 2-3 days, so yeah, I would guess Saturday or Sunday.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2010 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions
ok, who would have more range in left today,
Manny or Troy Glaus?
by 68elcamino427 on Aug 18, 2010 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions
If Manny wants to play for someone next year, I’ll expect him to be extra motivated and locked in even though the team is out of it.
If he comes back and does nothing, his career might be over unless his ego and stomach a low salaried contract as a DH.
don’t you feel Manny wants to DH now?
by 68elcamino427 on Aug 18, 2010 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions
SO lets say by some miracle
Manny does get shipped off to CHi town…..do the white sox have anything useful?
I dont think Manny
Has anything to prove. What could he possibly do in the last month of the season to make a team say “Wow.. we really need Manny next year..” I personally hope he gets the Bonds and Dye treatment.
Possible TBLA reader calling in right now; mentioned the post ASB numbers (not that here is the only place to get that info)
Full list
LA Dodger relievers to have 3 wild pitches in a game
Octavio Dotel (tonight)
Cory Wade (‘09)
Rich Rodas (’83)
Fred Norman (4; ‘70)
Gene Snyder (’59)
Normally I would say try the veal, but I did earlier. Stay away!
by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2010 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
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by angelofdeath on Aug 18, 2010 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions
what would you guys rather watch?
brett favre circus or the dodgers
I’d rather watch the Dodgers go 0-162 than Brett Favre
by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2010 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions
That is a good assessment. I am the same way. Don’t necessarily root for him, but respect the game.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2010 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I used to like Favre, the person, now I think he’s a meglomaniacal media whore.
"A baseball game is nothing but a great slow contraption for getting you to pay attention to the cadence of a summer day."
is he a media whore
is the media the whore? Honestly, I think the guy wants to retire but keeps getting pressured into it by the NFL and the media. If the Vikings had said ’we’ll give you this huge contract and you don’t have to go to camp’ he would have committed to playing a month ago.
Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.
I have hated him
ever since I saw him throw for 700 yards on a Monday night game at OAK. He was like Curly Neal that night.. Around the back 40 yard passes, no look 70 yard bombs. through the leg screen passes. Worst football game I ever attended.
Dodgers
It’s a little funny now
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by angelofdeath on Aug 18, 2010 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m tiried of all the Joe and Bowa bashing all year. It’s not the coaches job to hit, pitch and field it’s all on the players. Or was it bowa and Torre who told Kemp to swing at that slider that was way off the plate it’s all on the players they have to be held accountable
by Dodgermanramon on Aug 18, 2010 11:31 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I agree that the coaches have little impact on what happens in the field.
But I do think when Bowa fucks up, he should be called out for it since he’s usually the one calling out the players.
I don’t feel Bowa fucked up by sending Johnson on that play for two reasons one the Dodgers are having a hard ass time scoring runs and that might be your best chance to score a run that inning. Second in order for Johnson not to score Colorado would have to make a perfect play which they did. Bowa ripping Kemp in the paper it’s ok with mr because Kemp is cocky and uncoachable sometimes as a coach you have to find ways to get your players attention when all else fails
by Dodgermanramon on Aug 18, 2010 11:54 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Johnson was out by a mile (wasn’t in the screen when Olivo caught the ball). It didn’t take a perfect play to get him at all.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2010 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions
So what if the relay was off line or one hoped to olivio and he scores It looks like an easy play to make but players don’t always make the easy plays
by Dodgermanramon on Aug 19, 2010 12:02 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Or did you want Ryan Theriot coming up to the plate with a chance to tie or win the game ? The same players everyone has been bashing and what not since he got to LA
by Dodgermanramon on Aug 19, 2010 12:04 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
If it was GA hitting, I'd still give him the chance
Not end the game on a fucking TOOTBLAN…
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by angelofdeath on Aug 19, 2010 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions
That what you say not that his not on the team and you saw the out come of the game but if GA was on deck and Bowa doesn’t send Johnson you guys would have been bashing Bowa for not sending the runner. Bowa was fucked if he did fucked if he didnt
by Dodgermanramon on Aug 19, 2010 12:12 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
He was out by a fucking mile
And if GA didn’t get the hit, we’d be bashing Torre instead…
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by angelofdeath on Aug 19, 2010 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions
So if that’s the case why isn’t everyone bashing Kemp for not getting on or advancing Johnson so that he would have scored on the single by Podsednik
by Dodgermanramon on Aug 19, 2010 12:19 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Because we don't need to
The Dodger coaching staff is doing it for us…
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by angelofdeath on Aug 19, 2010 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think so I feel like most people here are pinning the blame for these season on Joe and his coaching staff when the blame should be on the players
by Dodgermanramon on Aug 19, 2010 12:26 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes some of the blame goes to the players
But when a manager keeps playing a player who sucks, keeps pitching a guy who struggling, when a fill-in manager doesn’t know what a fucking mound visit is and the third base coach keeps screwing us around the bases, some of the blame goes to the coaches as well… The coaches pretty much leave the players to hang out to dry in the media, what about when the coaches screw up? Oh yeah, they cover their ass
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by angelofdeath on Aug 19, 2010 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Which player are you talking about what pitcher also. As far as the mattingly incident it’s one of those rules that if the umps call that move a second visit then on most double plays in the majors the runners going to second should be safe cause the fielders don’t tag the bag they kick the dirt around it. What times has bowa fucked up on sending a player? What other player besides Kemp has been hung out to dry in the media? Plus he deserved all of that and some
by Dodgermanramon on Aug 19, 2010 12:47 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
What times has Bowa fucked up?
You didn’t watch the Dodgers in June, did you?
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by angelofdeath on Aug 19, 2010 12:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Jesus, you really didn't watch
When Matt Kemp gets caught stealing, I’m ok with that… But when Russell Martin is out on second base on a base hit because he tried to go to third (thanks Larry), that’s Bowa’s fault…
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by angelofdeath on Aug 19, 2010 12:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Are you talking about the game against the Angels ?
by Dodgermanramon on Aug 19, 2010 12:55 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Not just that
What about trying to send Manny from first to third on a single… Everybody with a freaking brain knows Manny goes station to station
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by angelofdeath on Aug 19, 2010 12:56 AM PDT up reply actions
If your talking about the Angels game when Kemp gets picked off then someone bloops a single to right and Martin gets thrown out at second before reed Johnson scores if that the one you are talking about how is bowa to blame for Martin getting thrown out at second when he had no business rounding second that was all on Martin
by Dodgermanramon on Aug 19, 2010 1:01 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
The point is
If you’re gonna call out your players if they screw up, be sure as hell to call your coaches out when they screw up…
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by angelofdeath on Aug 19, 2010 1:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Bowa had nothing to do with Kemp and Martin screwing up. Kemp gets called out cause he deserves it. He is uncoachable that’s why he gets picked off when his on second and the coaches have gone over scouting reports on Fuentes pick off move. He thinks he’s the shit and doesn’t have to listen to anyone. Don’t get me wrong I think his a good player but he has the tools to be a great player if he put in the work and commitment to the game
by Dodgermanramon on Aug 19, 2010 1:15 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Uncoachable?
That’s a little harsh after just a season of struggling… And yes, Bowa may not have screwed up there but he did tonight… But the manager covered his ass on a play that wasn’t even close…
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by angelofdeath on Aug 19, 2010 1:19 AM PDT up reply actions
From conversations i have had with a MLB writer that covers the Dodgers
by Dodgermanramon on Aug 19, 2010 9:18 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh and that Manny play
Lead to him getting injured… So thanks Larry
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by angelofdeath on Aug 19, 2010 1:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Manny didn’t get hurt cause of that. He got hurt and that’s a big if he got hurt cause I think his playing around or should I say manny being manny cause of the roids that he isn’t on anymore
by Dodgermanramon on Aug 19, 2010 1:19 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Be that as it may
It’s still a terrible idea to send Manny from first to third on a single…
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by angelofdeath on Aug 19, 2010 1:21 AM PDT up reply actions
As for the player and the pitcher
C’mon, you don’t even have to think hard for that
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by angelofdeath on Aug 19, 2010 12:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Refresh my memory with bowa. As far as the player I believe you are talking about GA. Pitcher I have a few clues.
by Dodgermanramon on Aug 19, 2010 12:54 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Joe Torre cannot manage a pitching staff for shit
All of the coaches and our GM bash the guy who should be our franchise star, what the hell do you think that does to a player? I don’t think it makes him try harder when ALL of this is piled on him…remember Andruw Jones? He got his ass booed hard in 2008, and he didn’t improve one bit that season at all.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
So what are they supposed to do when that franchise player is cocky and uncoachble and doesn’t want to listen to what you are trying to get across to him
by Dodgermanramon on Aug 19, 2010 1:22 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Who says Kemp is uncoachable
You are just believing what the coaches are spewing. Just because Larry Bowa says so? What about Kemp’s side of the story? And be real. If Bowa were your coach and he is yelling at you all the time and talking trash in the media, would you really want to listen to what he has to say? Its a natural reflex to tune sucha person out.
How is he uncoachable? Because he's had a bad year?
What was the case last year? Was he uncoachable then? Didn’t seem like it when he put up a 5.1 WAR year.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I have seen nothing on this board that even hints at “most people” pinning the blame on the coaching staff.
If anything we can all agree that the core underperformed and Manny got injured.
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 19, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes, I would rather have Theriot at the plate than send Johnson on a no chance play.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 19, 2010 12:10 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
So are you here on Ned's payroll for a new PR move through blog comments?
You are defending an idiotic play to send Johnson, and it shouldn’t be defended at all.
I love how you dump on Kemp…guess what, this is his first bad season since 2006, offseasons happen, him getting all the blame he has gotten is asinine.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I’m not on Ned’s payroll I’m defending Bowa cause I agree with him taking the gamble and sending Johnson on that play. As far as kemp I ain’t bashing him I don’t bash or boo Dodgers players coaches mangers cause I like to think of my self as a loyal and true fan I’m just stating the reasons why Bowa has ripped kemp in the media
by Dodgermanramon on Aug 19, 2010 1:27 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
You called him uncoachable and cocky
sounds like bashing to me
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
well to be fair
Kemp isnt going around calling out Bowa in the media for windmilling people home when they really shouldnt. If Bowa werent so openly critical, i dont think there would be such a backlash
GA, Giving JMac one start before giving up on him, the Ortizes
Using Sherril in all the wrong situations. It goes on and on. Not to mention watching Torre overuse broxton till his arm just about fell off. Wake up bro.
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
Ah fuckit
Get em tomorrow. I’ll be there on Friday for the first time this season watching Padilla throw my namesake. And maybe on Sat to watch Billz make the reds look silly. I look forward to watching dont stop believing guy….as thats all thats likely to be entertaining.
only Deuce was there tonight. Really got the crowd going though. I’d rather watch that kid do his thing that the DSB guy anyday.
Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.
Torre needs a new script.
But, by keeping Kemp out of the lineup until he begged forgiveness, the old-school manager and his old-school coaching staff played by old-school rules that no longer fly. If Kemp had sinned for the Angels, Mike Scioscia would have summoned him to the office, immediately after the game or before the next one, read him the riot act and moved on.
Scioscia also checks in with his players during batting practice. On the day Kemp snapped, Torre never set foot on the field during batting practice. He held court with the media, then visited with some Hollywood friends.
Torre says he holds informal meetings with players all the time, on the field and in the clubhouse. He tries to minimize closed-door meetings, he says, because he does not want players to get that uneasy feeling of getting called into the principal’s office.
He says he has absolutely not given up on Kemp.
“The one thing I look at in thinking about how high an upside is, is how the player plays under pressure,” Torre said. "To me, Matt plays better under pressure.
http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jul/17/sports/la-sp-0718-shaikin-20100718/2
I guess Torre delegates alot of responsibilty..
"The one thing I look at in thinking about how high an upside is, is how the player plays under pressure," Torre said. “To me, Matt plays better under pressure.”
Yeah Id say so. Looks like he delegates his eyes too. How has Matty done, since dealing with the pressure of his GM calling him out?
Its alright, Kemp delegates his frustration to his agent..
Its alright, Kemp delegates his frustration to his agent..
First, his agent’s JOB is to be his advocate. Second, it was reported that a lot of Dave Stewart acting out was because of Dave Stewart, not Matt Kemp. Where was Stewart when Billingsley was having a rough second half last year and getting blasted by the media? Oh, right, Billingsley didn’t get blasted by coaches except to perpetuate the “mental fortitude” BS via Torre.
Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.
I know that its Stewarts job..
But the whole thing frustrates me. I dont think Stewart would make the “Maybe a trade will work for both sides” comments without Kemps saying it was ok. Billingsley was brought up however, when the incident occured with Colletti and Kemp. Stewart said he would take Collettis words into consideration when doing Chads next contract as well. Im sure it will all blow over eventually, but its been a huge distraction, and Im really sick of it. Im not blaming Kemp, Stewart, Colletti or Torre.. but those 4 need to pull it together. Its really not doing any good for the team.
But
Dave Stewart doesn’t have a responsibility to the team, directly, only a responsibility to his clients, Kemp and Billingsley in this case.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Aug 20, 2010 12:43 AM PDT up reply actions
But if Stewart keeps spouting his mouth off..
and against his players will (which I feel it hasnt been), youd think he’d have a hard time finding clients to represent. Bills is a totally seperate case. While some questioned his mental fortitude, nobody said it was from a lack of hustle, or not putting it all on the field. I thought the whole Billingsley thing was totally blown out of porportion, and was more of a media thing anyway. That kid had a whole boatload of responsibilty dumped on him. Joe STILL seems to have a problem with him though, saying, whenever the chance comes up, that Bills has been fun to watch, but Kershaw will be something “special”. Nobody ever seems to mention that if Chad had a little run support, what kind of season he would be having. Especially lately.
Did I mention that Bills is my favorite guy on the staff? if Stewart pops off about Chad again, I may hunt him down and punch him in the face. Stew knows this, there shouldnt be any more trouble:)
What, Martin broke up with his hot girlfriend?
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
I can only hope she broke up with him
Because if he did, that’s Bowa-esque
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by angelofdeath on Aug 18, 2010 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions
just let him live his life
ay, ay, ay…
Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?
Nobody told Bowa he is bad at coaching? What?
“They made two good plays,” Bowa said. “If he makes it, it’s a good play. If he doesn’t, it’s a bad play. I take the blame for it. I don’t think you guys [the media] have talked to me [about getting a runner thrown out] in three years, so I must be doing all right.”
Torre said Bowa’s decision was the right one.
“That was the only play for us,” Torre said. “They had to make perfect throws, especially the relay. When Bo sent Reed, that is exactly what I would have done. Unfortunately, they made a perfect throw to the plate.”
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/mlb/columns/story?id=5475886
Good to know
That we only throw our players making millions under the bus and not our replaceable coaches.
Zach Lee better be the second coming of Jesus to make up for this shitty year.
albert
someone said he was past his prime today???
he is .10 percentage points away from winning the NL triple crown… joey votto .324 albert .314
wainright
amizingly he is only 10 Ks behind the leader to win the Triple crown for pitchers…. Wins, ERA and Strikeouts
wow ted lily yes ted lilly is 5th in the nl in WHIP
the same NL that has like 11 pitchers with era under 3 and amazing stats
um seriously, except for about Lily, is Albert and Wainwright really fucking relevant to the Dodgers at all? LOL. like I don’t know the reason why you posted those informations at all, btw, at least spell the player’s name right.
they are having amazing years
just wanted to note that….
"at least spell the player's name right"
“Lily”
“those informations”
LOL
by lchristmas on Aug 19, 2010 6:15 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I like the image youve selected..
So much that its tattooed on my arm. Mike Ness needs to write a song about the Dodgers season.
classic
i’ve always said that if/when I get a tattoo that will be the one
he already wrote that song, “ball and chain” – I feel like we’re at the end sitting in the “dingy hotel room”
Dodgers 2010, “born to lose and destined to fail”
by lchristmas on Aug 19, 2010 8:16 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Bowa has a tattoo of a Bowa Constrictor
I saw it in the shower after a game. The tail is near his belly button. The head is, well, below that…
Who cares if it's not Dodgers
People talk about Firefly, Futurama, the Food Network, Paul Newman, and whatever the hell else. You should ask Eric to use his power as a blogger and see what happens.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Bowa
Sending Johnson was the wrong move for the simple fact that if he was out IT ENDS THE FUCKING GAME AND WE LOSE. Gambling is fine. Playing Russian Roulette with a loaded gun is not. I get the whole our offense blows bit but you can’t gamble with your final out like that.
I disagree
I’d send the runner as long as he has what I estimate to be a 50% (maybe even lower) chance of scoring. That is a better gamble than the 30-40% chance that the next guy up won’t get out.
I strongly believe 3b coaches don’t gamble enough sending runners, especially in final out situations. I still think Bowa screwed up last night though, just because I think Reed’s chances of scoring were much lower.
by CarolinaDodger on Aug 19, 2010 5:45 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree with this
This sums up my thought. I just didn’t think there was as much of a chance of Johnson scoring on that play.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 19, 2010 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions
rubby scheduled to pitch today!!!!!!
so is gould
dream scenario
Summer of 2011, a sunny softball field in a land far, far away
Torre: “Quit crying honey, everybody gets thrown out sometimes”
Daughter- “why did Uncle Bowa send me from first base on ground ball to the pitcher”
Torre: “He’s gritty, He’s a gamer. He knows the right way to play the game”
Daughter-“Why did he cuss me out and tell the local sports reporter I’m uncoachable?”
Torre- He’s gritty, He’s a gamer. He Knows the right way to play the game"
Daughter- " You’re not going to bench me for the rest of my childhood like he said
Torre- He’s gritty. He’s a gamer. He knows how the right way to play the game"
Daughter- W-a-a-h, I wish Uncle Zimmer was still alive"
Went to bed before the 10th
and woke up to this. Wow.
Just… wow.
The Dodgers have a lot of problems.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
lucky you
I woke up for the tenth.
I shoulda stood in bed.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 19, 2010 7:39 AM PDT up reply actions
knew i was gonna get called on that
that line is meant to be spoken, not read. oh well.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 19, 2010 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions
it was either that or asking if you sleep standing up.
Also in the running “what are you, a fucking vampire?”
Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.
I only found out about the play because my friend IMs me and says
You just got fucked hard by your 3b coach.
I saw that and just knew the Dodgers had found another inventive way to lose.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Rumor is that Larry Bowa is getting his glass eye cleaned so he won’t make any more base coaching errors again.
is that why Kemp is getting blasted?
he told Bowa his glass eye looks like shit?
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 19, 2010 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions
VILLIANS!!!!
IT’S THE WAVING OF HIS DAMN ARM!!!!!!!
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 19, 2010 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions
I got what I wanted out of this game
Had great seats, almost caught about 3 foul balls and two from Ethier after warming up (some idiot rockies fan teen girl got one sitting directly behind me), the game was entertaining, and we maintained our pace for a good draft pick. Hiroki looked strong early, then started throwing way too many balls out of the strike zone and I was surprised he was brought back out for the 7th.
In a low point of the game, two asshole Dodger fans sitting next to us for talking trash to OTHER DODGER FANS sitting in the front row (we were about in row 6 or 7) because she was wearing a black hat with a B on it. “Boston sucks! UCLA sucks!” and so on. The girl’s friend turned around and said “It’s a Brooklyn hat” and they proceeded with “We’re not in Brooklyn. This is LA trick! How many titles in Brooklyn? How many in LA? I hear crickets!” It was such bullshit that I felt embarrassed for any Rockies fans who may have been from out of town. Have we really gotten to a point where we talk trash to our own fans?
Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.
I wonder where die hard Dodger fans might have gotten the idea
that only certain hats are kosher to wear, and that anything else is an abomination of epic proportions?
I get the hat thing, but talking trash about Brooklyn?
Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.
simple really
the guy was an asshole.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 19, 2010 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions
You don't hear me defending Dodger fans
I’ve stopped going to games because the irritation of the fan behavior lessens my enjoyment of watching the game. The one advantage of being in the press box is that you are isolated from the morons who ruin what should be an enjoyable time for most fans.
Just a question for the board. When did it become acceptable to use the word “moron” and “idiot” and how long before “retard” falls into that category since at one time they all referred to mentally handicapped individuals?
The one advantage of being in the press box is that you are isolated from the morons who ruin what should be an enjoyable time for most fans.
But depending on the day, you have to sit near the morons who make the casual fans think the way they do about baseball.
Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.
Since I was the one who first questioned it, I was taught in school that the word “retard” was offensive while the others were more accepted as put downs. That’s not to say that my teachers would have been happy if I called a classmate an idiot, but the type of punishment would have been very different.
by Michael White on Aug 19, 2010 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Did you go to a private school?
Or did you go to Royal or Simi High?
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
oh, missed your last question. Retard had its day in the sun and it was so anti-PC that it fell out of favor. Was probably the only word in my childhood that someone was scolding for saying besides the n word. Moron and Idiot seem to be more used to classify behavior than actual mental capacity, and personally as a 23 soon 24 year old, I never knew moron and idiot referred to mentally challenged people until you mentioned it just now.
Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.
Wow, those 2 Dodger fans make me want to just give up on life in general
How are people that dumb able to remember to breathe?
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I agree with DodgerRamon
I’d have sent him. Sure it would only have taken a good play to get him so the great throw made it look worse then what a simple good throw would have been but given the circumstances:
1. Theriot was the next hitter.
2. The Dodgers can’t hit with runners in scoring position
3. I’d have sent him and hoped for a bad throw because this team simply can’t score unless luck intervenes.
I’m not one to defend Bowa being on our coaching staff, but as a 3rd base coach I’ve had hardly anything to quibble about when you consider the number of decisions they make on a yearly basis.
I suspect that if Larry Bowa had been defending Matt Kemp all year that the up in arms folk would simply have said we had to take a chance because we suck at scoring. Instead since he’s the focal point of the Matt Kemp bashing, it was a good time to take a swing at him for making a mistake. In the end we now know what Larry thinks of the chances of Theriot to get a hit. Since Joe said he agreed, then Joe must have the same opinion.
Maybe it would have been better to let Pod try to score on a wild pitch but I don’t think anyone here really thinks Theriot was going to drive in the that run.
I was down the 1B line, about even with where Podsednik’s blooper landed, and just a couple of observations:
1) I thought Fowler was going to get to it, but with two outs, I think Reed Johnson must have gotten a bad jump off contact to only be where he was when it landed. Wouldn’t surprise me to see him job to second and then try to bust it home.
2) The ball didn’t kick more than a few feet away from Fowler, but I also thought that based on how he was laying down that Bowa probably only saw it come out of his glove and couldn’t see exactly where the ball went. Once Fowler began to scrambkle looking to see where it went, that only made the decision to keep sending him easier.
3) It was a big risk, but my first reaction when the ball dropped was something along the lines of ‘YOU GOTTA SCORE!’. Bowa made the right move, it just didn’t work out. I’m with Phil. The guy makes so many decisions that this is really the first one I have to complain about. I just wish we could find someone with his 3B coach ability without his mouth.
Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.
I have to be honest
I never root for the Dodgers to lose, but I wouldn’t mind seeing the Reds take 2 of 3 in the upcoming series. There is a lot to like about that Reds team and I certainly want to see them take the Central. Plus I’m an Ohio guy and it is good to hear people talking about the Reds in August.
I’m rooting for the Reds to win the NL Central… after this weekend.
by Michael White on Aug 19, 2010 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Minor League report is up. Good news and bad news. I think the bad news trumps the good news.
http://www.truebluela.com/2010/8/19/1631435/milb-dodger-recap-8-18-10-teen
Dodgers continue to un-impress
season has long been over. +/- they should end up at .500 at years end.
by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Aug 19, 2010 9:19 AM PDT reply actions
You talkin' bout me? YOU TALKIN' ABOUT ME?!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
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