Dodgers Week 17 In Review: It's Over
by Eric Stephen on Aug 2, 2010 6:01 AM PDT
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PrintThe Dodgers had their chance to make a push last week, facing the leaders in both the division and wild card races. However, they reverted to deadball era tactics, with no offense to speak of, losing five of six to the Padres and Giants, effectively putting a nail in the coffin of the 2010 Dodgers season.
As it stands now, the Dodgers are six and a half games out of the wild card, with four teams ahead of them, with 57 games to play. Barring a miracle, this season is over.
Dodger Batter of the Week: Brad Ausmus had one hit in two at-bats, plus a walk, so he easily wins the award. Rafael Furcal was easily the best hitting regular, and he hit .190/.320/.381. I was tempted to give this award to Ronnie Belliard, who didn't even come to the plate this week once.
Dodger Pitcher of the Week: Chad Billingsley made two starts, and didn't allow a run, so he wins. The pitching was wonderful this week, but when you can't score you can't win.
Week 17 Record: 1-5
11 runs scored (1.83 per game)
19 runs allowed (3.17 per game)
.269 pythagorean winning percentage
Season Record: 54-51
459 runs scored (4.37 per game)
454 runs allowed (4.32 per game)
.505 pythagorean winning percentage (53-52)
Transactions:
- Wednesday: The Dodgers acquired outfielder Scott Podsednik from the Royals for minor leaguers Lucas May (who was on the Dodgers 40-man roster) and Elisaul Pimentel.
- Wednesday: After reliever Justin Miller cleared waivers, he was outrighted to Triple A Albuquerque.
- Thursday: To make room for Podsednik on the active roster, the Dodgers designated reliever Jack Taschner for assignment.
- Saturday: The Dodgers acquired starting pitcher Ted Lilly, infielder Ryan Theriot, and $2.5 million cash from the Cubs for Blake DeWitt and minor league pitchers Brett Wallach and Kyle Smit.
- Saturday: The Dodgers acquired reliever Octavio Dotel and $500,000 cash from the Pirates for James McDonald and minor league outfielder Andrew Lambo.
- Sunday: To make room for Lilly on the active roster, reliever Travis Schlichting was optioned to Triple A Albuquerque.
Game Results:
- Tuesday: Dodgers 2, Padres 0
- Wednesday: Padres 6, Dodgers 1
- Thursday: Padres 3, Dodgers 2
- Friday: Giants 6, Dodgers 5
- Saturday: Giants 2, Dodgers 1
- Sunday: Giants 2, Dodgers 0
Upcoming Week: The Dodgers come back to Dodger Stadium for seven games against the Padres and Nationals.
| Mon | Tue | Wed | Thu | Fri | Sat | Sun |
| 2 vs SD 7:10pm |
3 vs SD 7:10pm |
4 vs SD 7:10pm |
5 vs SD 7:10pm |
6 vs Was 7:10pm |
7 vs Was 7:10pm TBLA Night |
8 vs Was 1:10pm |
Previous Weeks in Review: Wk 1 | Wk 2 | Wk 3 | Wk 4 | Wk 5 | Wk 6 | Wk 7 | Wk 8 | Wk 9 | Wk 10 | Wk 11 | Wk 12 | Wk 13 | Wk 14 | Wk15 | Wk 16
Week 17 Stats
| Player | PA | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SB/CS | BA/OBP/SLG | OPS |
| Furcal | 25 | 21 | 2 | 4 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 4 | 2/1 | .190/.320/.381 | .701 |
| Podsednik | 17 | 15 | 1 | 3 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 2/0 | .200/.294/.333 | .627 |
| Martin | 17 | 16 | 0 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0/0 | .250/.294/.250 | .544 |
| DeWitt | 12 | 10 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0/0 | .200/.333/.200 | .533 |
| Loney | 24 | 22 | 1 | 3 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 0/0 | .136/.208/.318 | .527 |
| Carroll | 15 | 14 | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0/0 | .214/.267/.214 | .481 |
| Blake | 20 | 18 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0/0 | .056/.150/.222 | .372 |
| Ethier | 14 | 14 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0/0 | .143/.143/.143 | .286 |
| Kemp | 20 | 19 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0/1 | .105/.150/.105 | .255 |
| Theriot | 4 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0/0 | .000/.000/.000 | .000 |
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| Ausmus | 3 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0/0 | .500/.667/.500 | 1.167 |
| Anderson | 8 | 8 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0/0 | .250/.250/.250 | .500 |
| Paul | 13 | 13 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0/1 | .077/.077/.077 | .154 |
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| Pitchers | 12 | 13 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 |
0/0 | .111/.273/.111 | .384 |
| Totals | 204 | 185 | 11 | 29 | 2 | 1 | 3 | 9 | 15 | 4/3 | .157/.232/.227 | .459 |
| Pitcher | G | W-L | Sv | IP | H | R | ER | BB | K | ERA | WHIP | FIP* |
| Billingsley | 2 | 1-0 | -- | 12.2 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 9 | 0.00 | 0.711 | 3.20 |
| Kershaw | 1 | 0-1 | -- | 7.0 | 6 | 2 | 2 | 4 | 6 | 2.57 | 1.429 | 1.91 |
| Kuroda | 1 | 0-1 | -- | 6.0 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 5 | 4.50 | 1.000 | 3.03 |
| Padilla | 1 | 0-0 | -- | 4.0 | 4 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 5 | 4.50 | 1.500 | 1.45 |
| Monasterios | 1 | 0-1 | -- | 5.0 | 7 | 4 | 4 | 0 | 3 | 7.20 | 1.400 | 4.60 |
| Starters | 6 |
1-3 | -- | 34.2 | 26 | 11 | 11 | 12 | 28 | 2.86 | 1.096 | 2.91 |
| McDonald | 1 | 0-0 | -- | 2.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 0.00 | 0.500 | 2.70 |
| Jansen | 1 | 0-0 | -- | 1.0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0.00 | 1.000 | 1.20 |
| Dotel | 1 | 0-0 | -- | 1.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0.00 | 1.000 | 6.20 |
| Taschner | 1 | 0-0 | -- | 0.1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0.00 | 6.000 | 21.20 |
| Kuo | 3 | 0-0 | -- | 4.0 | 4 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 6 | 2.25 | 1.000 | 0.95 |
| Broxton | 2 | 0-1 | 1/2 | 1.1 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 6.75 | 1.500 | 11.45 |
| Schlichting | 2 | 0-0 | -- | 2.0 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 9.00 | 2.000 | 2.70 |
| Sherrill | 2 | 0-1 | -- | 1.0 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 9.00 | 2.000 | 3.20 |
| Weaver | 2 | 0-0 | -- | 2.0 | 5 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 0 | 13.50 | 3.000 | 9.70 |
| Relievers | 6 |
0-2 | 1/2 | 14.2 | 16 | 8 | 8 | 7 | 12 |
4.91 | 1.568 | 4.56 |
| Totals | 6 |
1-5 | 1/2 | 49.1 | 42 | 19 | 19 | 19 | 40 | 3.47 | 1.236 | 3.40 |
*FIP is estimated
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New month, new week, new Dodgers outlook on the season, let’s get some hits. Vamos Doyers!!
by Skunkburner on Aug 2, 2010 6:19 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Has the offense really regressed this far?
Or is this just the entire team in a slump at the same time…
I think it is a combination of things.
1. Manny being hurt most of the season, the offense was built with him in mind.
2. Kemp not taking the next step, and really taking a step back
3. Ethier’s hot streak disrupted by injury
4. Blake showing that he is no longer a viable option as starting 3B.
Actually I think it was over last week, before the trades. Of course I’ll keep rooting for these guys—same laundry, as someone said here the other day—but I confess that I’m already also thinking about what prospects they could get on the August waiver wire if this season continues flowing down the drain. I’m thinking about 2011, too, but it’s probably a useless exercise until we see what happens with the divorce.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Aug 2, 2010 7:46 AM PDT reply actions
I agree
Still, every trade made prior to the deadline was a complete waste, particularly the Dotel deal IMO.
Doesn’t Dotel have an option for next year? I don’t see that as such a bad deal if he is back next season. A bullpen of Broxton, Kuo, Dotel, Jansen, Bellisario would be seriously awesome.
The bigger problem for me is Theriot, especially if there is any thought that he will be the starting 2B next season. We need to upgrade 2B and 3B bad.
Agree on Theriot
I hope he gets non-tendered.
I’m just not a fan of paying any reliever (who is not your “closer”) over $4mm when you have solid, cheap, in-house options and a supply-constrained budget.
Mutual option
While I am a big Dotel fan, I think the extra $4.25m severely hampers the budget.
I am still of the opinion that they sign/acquire 3 starters and that Ely begins 2011 as the 6th starter.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 2, 2010 8:12 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
This is why I don’t really like the Lilly/Theriot deal at all. Lilly will likely not be back and Theriot is garbage. It would’ve been better just to deal with Pitt and get a Maholm/Dotel package for Lambo, McDonald, Wallach and maybe another player not named DeWitt.
Not a huge supporter of DeWitt
but you had to love his walks. His trade was the most (or second most) likely this year to look terrible in a few years. The move itself is a problem because I assume that the Dodgers know they downgraded at 2nd, but think they added a valuable piece in Lilly. That assumption is probably wrong, long term, but probably right for the remainder of the season – but not by enough. The question is, will Lilly in eightish games through the rest of the season really produce even a single win above the replacement options currently manning the slot? DIPS suggests he will not. For 2010 this package was at best a wash. Going forward, it will depend on what the Dodgers do with the slots. Lilly’s main advantage is his type-A status, though over the last couple of years the Dodger’s front office has proved particularly inept in taking advantage arbitration offers.
I agree with this. I’d also rather use that $4mm on a 2B other than Theriot even though I have the suspicion he will be starting there next season.
Yep, now we have three rotation spots to fill as well as needing to find a better option at 3B and 2B. I think we can capably fill LF with Paul/Johnson/Podsednik.
My fear is that both Blake and Theriot will be starting next season which would be a sign of bad things to come.
Not to mention we would have no power in our lineup other than Kemp/Ethier. Barring trades, the only open spots in the lineup for power are 2B, 3B and LF. Theriot, Blake and Paul/Johnson/Pods would be a lineup with very little power, and although we’d have good speed, the “speedsters” don’t have great OBP skills.
They’ll start, the real issue is whether they will finish.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Aug 2, 2010 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions
I won’t count the Dodgers out until the end of August. If they’ve managed to cut the lead in half by more in the division or wild card then I’ll feel a lot better about September and October where 24 of the 29 games are against the West including the last 18. If they can somehow regain their mojo against their division rivals it could stay interesting at least.
The trouble is that success for LA is no longer in their hands when so many teams are ahead of them in the standings. They need a lot of things to go right for them and a lot of things to go wrong for everybody else.
lineup by the numbers :)
OPS
.877 – Furcal
.768 – Kemp
.864 – Ethier
.766 – Loney
.722 – Blake
.627 – Podsednick (.753 at KC)
.640 – Theriot
.673 – Martin
just a thought
Everyone talks about Manny, but given his salary, I bet Martin (because of position and contract) and Kuroda would bring the most in August from a contender. I don’t expect more out of Manny than salary relief and a low-level prospect. But heaven knows who would catch next year.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Aug 2, 2010 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions
I’d like to see Ned pull a Beane and flip Dotel in the off-season for a prospect or two that could be deemed more valuable for us than McDonald/Lambo.
In the off-season, teams are always clamoring for a potential “closer”.
Since Dotel has that mutual option, I assume he’s just going to walk at the end of the season and take his chances.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Aug 2, 2010 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions
i don't thinks so
they are payin him a lot of money for just a reliver (non closer)
I missed most of the trade talk this weekend. What was the concensus on the Manny/White Sox rumors? I don’t know anything about Viciedo, would he be a good return?
Sox called, wanted Manny for no players and the Dodgers to pay all but $1 million. Dodgers unwilling to deal Manny, at least now.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 2, 2010 9:14 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I would have been happy with Viciedo. He doesn’t walk at all, but he doesn’t have a terrible K rate. A good comp for him is Sandoval.
please no
not him.. mlb pitchers will eat him alive…
get tyler flowers
Everyone said the same thing about Sandoval when he was 20.
I don’t care though. Tyler Flowers would be great too. I’d be fine with Morel or basically anyone decent we could get. Of course the ChiSox basically wanted Manny for free, so there is a huge gap there.
Over on SB Nation Los Angeles, Dexter Fishmore ranks the top five most disliked figures in LA sports. I love his #3 choice.:)
by Eric Stephen on Aug 2, 2010 8:42 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
On my phone
But main site is losangeles.sbnation.com
by Eric Stephen on Aug 2, 2010 8:46 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Thanks
good stuff. Liked #3 as well, I hate Plaschke.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 2, 2010 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I can’t agree with the placing on number 1 and number 4.
by Michael White on Aug 2, 2010 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Those 2 aren’t even in the same ballpark.
by Michael White on Aug 2, 2010 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Jody Reed and Chase Carey should still be up there. :)
by Eric Stephen on Aug 2, 2010 8:53 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Reconcile please
“As it stands now, the Dodgers are six and a half games out of the wild card, with four teams ahead of them, with 57 games to play. Barring a miracle, this season is over.”
“However, hope is not lost. Yes, they stand five and a half games out of a playoff spot with 58 games to play.”
;)
A lot hinged on yesterday’s game, obviously. :)
by Eric Stephen on Aug 2, 2010 8:47 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
You kid
but actually, that’s right. In just two games, we have seen the Dodgers move from fringe-contenders-but-WE-ARE-IN-THIS-THING to also-rans.
Maybe that’s ridiculous. Maybe it’s foolish to think that a 162-game season can hinge on two losses. But that’s really how it feels this morning.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
For me personally, i was dejected by last night’s loss, especially coupled with Saturday.
I’m sure I felt the Dodgers were done in 2006 too but wasn’t as invested in the team.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 2, 2010 9:20 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Yep
After Saturday’s gut-puncher, Sunday was kind of a last shot to show up. They phoned it in.
Oh well, there’s always next year 2013.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
Jon used the word “funk” this weekend, and that’s where I am, in a funk. It’s probably a good thing that I’m leaving for Japan next week. They’re used to losing in Hiroshima.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Aug 2, 2010 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Funk
Like “Superstition?” Because that song is awesome.
Ohhhhh.. he meant funk, like socks after a marathon and sitting on the floor for a week.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
I saw Stevie play “Superstition” on the back porch if the U of Illinois Union in the late 80s, just for the heck of it while he was in town. It was decidedly awesome.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Aug 2, 2010 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions
But by 2013
Ned will have had the opportunity to trade away even more prospects for more McSlappy’s.
I want to laugh at this
but its sad because it is true.
Well
No, it isn’t.
When Colletti joined the team after the awful 2005 season, he had carte blanche to do what he wanted to do, remake the team, and make a contender. Everyone says it’s ridiculous to give Colletti credit for not trading Kemp and Billignsley and Broxton and the other prospects, but I still have to give him the credit. He saw the future of the team and protected it.
There’s no reason to think he’ll do any differently this time, especially if the team is not a contender in ’11. For all the hand-wringing about the trades this year — and believe me, my hands are wrung — he did not trade anyone who will be an integral part of the next great Dodger team.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
What he said is true
While the prospects he dealt may or may not not be intergral pieces of the next great Dodgers team, he still traded away prospects for useless “mcslappy” pieces. He should not have been a buyer for those guys at any cost. Those prospects could have either been held or used in a trade in the future for players that could actually make the team better.
Impossible to say that
I am not sure what “Integral part” even means. It seems, at best, to be highly convenient. On a baseball team, it is really impossible to call anyone player “integral.” What matters in trades is getting good value. By necessity, the players labeled “integral parts” will be the best 2-4 players of your stars. Even Pittsburgh and Seattle have “integral parts.” And the “next great Dodger team” will also have “integral parts.”
If Kemp, Billingsley and Broxton had all been traded for good value then the team would be where it is today and some other group of players would be “integral parts.”
Being at the game last Thursday in SD, that was my gut punch. By Friday, I had thrown in the towel.
by Michael White on Aug 2, 2010 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions
From a probability perspective, it is rediculous
We moved from a barely under 6% chance to make the playoffs prior to the SF series to a barely over 4% chance. The feeling outstripped the actual importance of the games. Our odds were and are slim, but not “miracle” (depending on your definition of miracle, I suppose).
I read on the MLB Network scroll
that NewsCorp was trying to buy the Rangers to secure the TV rights. Didn’t they learn their lesson the first time?
Sell at a profit to some over-leveraged schmuck while keeping what they wanted all along, the TV rights?
by Little Blue Bicycle on Aug 2, 2010 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions
i thought was
“Yes, we have a team, and the tv rights. What’s that? We have to give a shit about the team? Fuck that noise, who wants a baseball team?”
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 2, 2010 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions
I confess, there have been times this year when I missed Bob Daly and Dan Evans.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Aug 2, 2010 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions
I thought this was an 84 or 85 win team to start the year so I guess I can’t be disappointed in 54-51.
Of course, I thought being 54-51 would lead the division right now.
That’s interesting info.
What we don’t know, is what revenue the team can generate by maintaining the illusion of being in the race. If pretending to compete sells tickets, then maybe these deals make financial sense?
People don't think it be like this, but it do.
Even if true
that is a very short term perspective.
These trades
made me go glance at Santana. SSS and all, but a .387 wOBA out of the catcher slot sure would be nice…
Careful
or I’ll start up lamenting what DePo has done in SD. ;)
Neither are Ng or Logan
but credit to them is rarely withheld.
So shouldn’t they also share some of the Colletti blame, by that logic?
by Eric Stephen on Aug 2, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes.
I look at the front office as a team. I suspect you cannot just change one point and make it all better. Of course the GM is the “buck stops here” guy (absent an active owner), but sure, for every organization credit and blame needs to be recognized as more wide-spread than it is typically. Of course, Ng and White could be complete genius and Colletti could be a complete buffoon stopping their greatness from shining through. Alternatively, Colletti could be the only good thing in the FO, but he is saddled with incompetence around him. Neither extreme is likely, however. The FO has, presumably, a long term vision that likely reflects the combined thoughts of all three mentioned (and a few more). I have not been a fan of that vision.
NPUT
http://www.truebluela.com/2010/8/2/1601010/death-match-padre-preview
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Disheartening week
Nothing but broken hearts and teary kleenex, but I’ll echo the faint glimmer of hope in that there’s enough time to salvage this.
That could change pretty quickly depending on the outcome of the Pads series.
At least 2-3 wins this series
Hopefully 3. That would make us 2 games closer.
Then a couple of losses by SF to Col.
August looks kinda rough for the Dodgers, but September looks better.
Go Dodgers!!! It ain’t over yet..
Ludwick vs Podsednik
Is it reasonable to compare the Ryan Ludwick trade with the Podsednik trade?
Padres gave up a minor league pitcher, and got a slightly regressed former all-star who is still under team control next year.
Dodgers gave up two minor league guys and got a guy whose peak was lower than Ludwick.
The other difference? Ludwick gets $5 million/year, and Pods get $2 million.
People don't think it be like this, but it do.
Is it time?
To cut bait on Russell Martin? Are there any decent free agent catchers available in the offseason? We need more offense at catcher and 3rd base and it’s not like the defense is above average at either position now.
Have we made fun of this yet?
The Rally Monkey doesn’t have the bounce to beat it. The Don’t-Stop-Believin’ Guy doesn’t know the words to fix it.
Plaschke’s not even trying anymore, not that he ever was.
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
Link
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-0801-plaschke-20100801,0,346982.column
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 2, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Damn this season keeps getting more frustrating by the day
Our young guys are regressing and our old guys are just getting old. Management’s mismanagement is catching up with them and our window for contention seems to be closing (or closed).
I'm ready for the Autumn Wind to blow strong once again.
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