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Dodgers Score Five Runs, But That Isn't Enough Either

The good news for the Dodgers is that their offense showed up, scoring five runs and reaching base 19 times. The bad news is that the Padres offense also showed up, scoring a 10-5 victory over Hiroki Kuroda and the Dodgers.

The Dodgers at one point in the first and second innings had five consecutive hits but failed to score a run. Much like in the game in Anaheim earlier this season, the Dodgers had a runner thrown out on the bases (James Loney, at third base) for the third out of the inning before the runner from second (Matt Kemp) touched home plate, negating the run.

Clayton Richard allowed 10 hits, three walks, and hit a man, and he got the win. The last pitcher to allow 14 baserunners to the Dodgers and still win was Kenny Rogers, who beat them while with the Mets on September 12, 1999.

Matt Kemp had five hits tonight, including a home run and a double, for his first career five-hit game.  He previously had four hits in a game five times, the last coming on August 4, 2009, a performance Prince Fielder was so happy about that he tried to enter the Dodger clubhouse after the game, no doubt to congratulate Kemp.

Halfway To A Record Nobody Wants

Kuroda struck out looking in the second inning tonight, his only at-bat, pushing his season total to 35 at-bats without a hit (he does also have two walks and seven sacrifices). The record for most at-bats in one season without a hit is 70, by Bob Buhl, who went hitless in 1962.

Most At-Bats Without A Hit, Single Season
Player Year Team(s) Hitless AB
Bob Buhl 1962 Braves/Cubs 70
Bill Wright 1950 White Sox 61
Ron Herbel 1964 Giants 47
Karl Drews 1949 Browns 46
Randy Tate 1975 Mets 41
Ernie Koob 1916 Browns 41
Jason Bergmann 2008 Nationals 40
Joey Hamilton 1994 Padres 40
Ed Rakow 1964 Tigers 39
Darryl Kile 1991 Astros 38
Harry Parker 1974 Mets 36
Hiroki Kuroda 2010 Dodgers 35
Hal Finney 1936 Pirates 35
Thanks to Baseball-Reference.com

Every player on that list was a pitcher, excpet for Finney, who was a catcher. Kuroda last got a base hit on September 22, 2009 against Saul Rivera of the Nationals, in Kuroda's penultimate at-bat of the season, so his current hitless streak is 36 at-bats.

Notes

  • Before the All-Star break, the Dodgers had 29 intentional walks in 88 games, an average of 0.33 per game. Since the All-Star break, the Dodgers have 17 intentional walks in 18 games, including two tonight, for an average of 0.94 per game
  • Chase Headley had four hits for the Padres, including a home run and a double, with three runs and three RBI. He is the third player to collect four hits in a game against the Dodgers this year, joining his teammate Will Venable and Marlon Byrd of the Cubs
  • The Padres have beaten the Dodgers two out of three games at Dodger Stadium this season, and both wins were by the same 10-5 score
  • Andre Ethier had a single in five at-bats in his first game back after missing two games to be with his wife for the birth of his second child.
  • A must read: Jon Weisman at Dodger Thoughts described his appreciation for Vin Scully
  • Ted Lilly makes his Dodger debut tomorrow night, against Mat Latos.

WP - Clayton Richard (9-5):  5 1/3 IP, 10 hits, 4 runs, 3 walks, 1 HBP, 6 strikeouts

LP - Hiroki Kuroda (8-10):  4 IP, 7 hits, 5 runs (4 earned), 1 walk, 1 strikeout

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and we still haven’t scored more than 5 runs in a game since the all star break

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Aug 2, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh

Nice reaction from Kuroda…

If the eyes are the windows to the soul, then these sunglasses are the curtains telling you to keep the fuck out!!!

by angelofdeath on Aug 2, 2010 10:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Like he is pretty pissed at something

but someone near him farted really loud.

He wants to laugh hard, but can’t lose his bearings.

by keithc13 on Aug 2, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

So the losing streak will be—what, 10?—on TBLA Night?

by kinbote on Aug 2, 2010 10:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Worst case scenario, yes

by Eric Stephen on Aug 2, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Billingsley will beat Correia on Thursday.

by Joey Joe on Aug 2, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

this team is

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Aug 2, 2010 10:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Ned said he’s not going to wait for prospects in A and AA while we lose 90 games.

by silverwidow on Aug 2, 2010 10:30 PM PDT reply actions  

That's the bad news.

The good news is that he can trade those guys away, get useless veterans who aren’t as good as the guys currently on the major league club, and still lose 90 games. Everybody wins! Except the Dodgers. And Dodger fans. But everybody else!

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 2, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is that a surprise though?

by Eric Stephen on Aug 2, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I will seriously try to rush through the Dodgers F.O. Prince Fielder style if Ned keeps taking my team down the drain.

by Julio Nievas on Aug 2, 2010 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, seriously

Most of my anger turned to resignation when George Sherrill blew the tie game in San Diego. The resignation turn back into anger when “we” made those two mindless trades to increase the ~2% chance at the postseason to about ~2.5%, in exchange for 5 or 6 pretty decent prospects that, in one way or another, could have helped the Dodgers get to the postseason for years to come. Less than one week later, you can probably move the decimal one place to the left now.

by sarcastro9 on Aug 2, 2010 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

So…is your team the Inland Empire 66’ers or the Chatenooga Lookouts?

The Spirit of MeatTrain'10!

by DodgerBlueBalls on Aug 3, 2010 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

The good news is that True Blue LA got some love today...

I was asked to be on Fantasy Baseball show on Sirius radio today, with hosts Jeff Rickard and Steve Phillips (yes that Steve Phillips). I talked Dodgers baseball, about the trades that were made, and the minor league system. They gave a lot of love to truebluela.com throughout the interview

by Brandon Lennox on Aug 2, 2010 10:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Nice

I was on with them about 2 weeks ago.

We are moving on up!

by Eric Stephen on Aug 2, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

you guys rule. well done.

by RyanFrancis on Aug 2, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Last time I checked

The fear of emptying the farm system is more than the reality of it happening.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 2, 2010 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Steve Phillips

ask you if there were any chicks on here? :)

by keithc13 on Aug 2, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously?

Do you write somewhere else as well?

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 2, 2010 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

nope...I only write here

That’s cool you were also on their show before, Eric. I must have missed that post when you said you were going to be on with them

by Brandon Lennox on Aug 3, 2010 7:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow, this place is really becoming big then. That’s so awesome.

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 3, 2010 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

tomorrow is a pyschological must win. lilly for the season

by RyanFrancis on Aug 2, 2010 10:30 PM PDT reply actions  

lillies are also the tradtitional funeral flower of the west…coincidence?

by RyanFrancis on Aug 2, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

He is the third player to collect four hits in a game against the Dodgers this year, joining his teammate Will Venable and Marlon Byrd of the Cubs

That is amazing. We have to be one of the league leaders in that category, right?

by Jesse S. on Aug 2, 2010 10:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Shit, Kemp has a 5 hit game and Lyons is running him into the ground
FUCK YOU LYONS!

by 68elcamino427 on Aug 2, 2010 10:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Lyons wants him to play his pants off :)

If the eyes are the windows to the soul, then these sunglasses are the curtains telling you to keep the fuck out!!!

by angelofdeath on Aug 2, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Dear Matt Kemp,

Please keep your pants on.

Love,

Everybody except Rihanna

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 2, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

does not make me wonder about the scapegoat agenda

by 68elcamino427 on Aug 2, 2010 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

So how bad does a pitchers hitting have to be before you care?

Kuroda’s at somewhere between -5 and -8 runs offensively right now, almost a full win.

Do you pay attention to this stuff at contract time?

by regfairfield on Aug 2, 2010 10:34 PM PDT reply actions  

I get that

I know that they are paid to pitch, but this is stupid.

by keithc13 on Aug 2, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't mean your comment was stupid

The fact Hiro hasn’t had a hit since 2005 is stupid

by keithc13 on Aug 2, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Too small of sample size to make much of it.

by Joey Joe on Aug 2, 2010 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

What I figured.

Hell, Kuroda isn’t even the worst hitter on the team. Kershaw’s 2 for 50 puts him slightly lower. If you want to use VORP, this means we lose almost two wins between Dan Haren’s bat and Kuroda’s.

To put that in perspective, that’s the difference in pitching from Kuroda to Dave Bush. The man has a career .280 OPS and possibly the worst swing I’ve ever seen. If someone is this freaking bad at hitting, I think it counts for something.

by regfairfield on Aug 2, 2010 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow

I never thought about it in those terms. Yikes.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 2, 2010 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

A good hitting pitcher does have some value i'd think..

Josh Johnson hit 3 homers last year.
Zambrano, Haren were pretty good hitters.

I guess what I’m saying is that whether Kuroda is 0-36 or 5-36…I cant see it mattering much.

by Joey Joe on Aug 2, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think for the most part it doesn’t matter, but at Kuroda bad it starts to.

There’s 78 pitchers with 20 PA or more this year, 50 of them are between +2 and -2 runs. Most pitchers stay in this range and are there almost every year. However, if you end up with a guy who’s constantly outside this range I think it starts to matter.

Doug Davis and Aaron Harang come to mind as guys who were constantly -8 or 9 runs with the bat. A full win under a replacement level pitcher year after year makes a difference.

by regfairfield on Aug 2, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember being pissed that..

Pitchers hitting stats dont count in fantasy baseball. I had Randy Wolf. That guy could mash.

by darrelld on Aug 3, 2010 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

So how bad does a pitchers hitting have to be before you care?

The answer: Once they start sucking at pitching then we can add on their horrible hitting to the list of why they need to get DFA’d. Until then… “Nothing to see here, move along.”

by Jesse S. on Aug 2, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Look at the bright side

Preston Mattingly did steal two bases in an AFL game

by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 2, 2010 10:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Isn't he like 33

and still playing ball in AZ?

:)

by keithc13 on Aug 2, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's only 22

but a career.226 AVG, .253 OBP, and .564 OPS wont get you too far

by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 2, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

He should retire and go to college.
Unless he plans on living off his Dad’s inheritance.

by Joey Joe on Aug 2, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought Fall League doesn't start until September

If the eyes are the windows to the soul, then these sunglasses are the curtains telling you to keep the fuck out!!!

by angelofdeath on Aug 2, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

mirroring the GBA singer

who was brimmin’ the flat bust. Zing!

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 2, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh man

who notices those things?!?!?

ZIIIIING ;D

by mintxcore on Aug 2, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Michael Eaves to Matt Kemp

“A career high five hits, I know that’s what every player wants to say someday.”

by Eric Stephen on Aug 2, 2010 10:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Serious question

About what record will they need at the end to have a protected first-round pick? I know there’s no money, but I’m still afraid they’ll find a Type A guy to sign and lose the pick.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 2, 2010 10:41 PM PDT reply actions  

I know

I’m asking, roughly, what record that would be.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 2, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

We need to get stuck at 54

Just to make sure :)

If the eyes are the windows to the soul, then these sunglasses are the curtains telling you to keep the fuck out!!!

by angelofdeath on Aug 2, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Currently 14 teams have a better record than the Dodgers.

Tigers, Angels, Marlins, Mets, Oakland, are all 1 game behind the Dodgers.

So..Dodgers probably need to finish in the lower pack of the 6 teams.

by Joey Joe on Aug 2, 2010 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

15 teams need to finish ahead of them to get a protected pick.

by Joey Joe on Aug 2, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Among the worst 15 teams

If the eyes are the windows to the soul, then these sunglasses are the curtains telling you to keep the fuck out!!!

by angelofdeath on Aug 2, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Last year the Cubs were 83-78 and they were the best “protected” team. Their one game short kind of messes with things, but it will probably end up 82-84 wins.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 2, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks

I guess somebody has to finish #16, but that seems like a really lousy fate for this club.

On the other hand, who am I kidding? They’d finish with a protected pick and then not sign their guy.

Man, I need more gin.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 2, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

God this sportsmanship commerical is killing me

NO CHANCE IN HELL, a player does that especially after an acne infested kid screeches, “its the Championship game!”

by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 2, 2010 10:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Ha!

I would say you’d be hard pressed to find a coach willing to do that too ;)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 2, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

no fucking way I would do that

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Aug 2, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

you take whatever breaks you get

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Aug 2, 2010 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

From the Dodger game notes
Ronnie Belliard picked up his first pinch hit since June 23 at Los Angeles ( AL ) with a single in the fourth, snapping a 0-for-9 skid as a pinch hitter.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 2, 2010 10:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Also, rec’d for callback.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 2, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

what does taiwan have to do with mimosas?

by mintxcore on Aug 2, 2010 10:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Vin Scully was great tonight

Even with a crap game, he was at top form.

Jon Weisman over at Dodger Thoughts has a nice post up about his appreciation for Vin.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 2, 2010 10:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Ken Levine just gave a shout out to TBLA for the article about needing 90 wins.

by sarcastro9 on Aug 2, 2010 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Awesome

I only heard the very end of that portion (I turned it on late).

by Eric Stephen on Aug 2, 2010 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

My twos favorite parts of his post
But Scully was and is an enormous influence on me. He sees every game as part of something bigger. He sees the team as part of a larger team, going all the way back to the borough of Brooklyn. He sees the grand timeline of the Los Angeles Dodgers and baseball, and knows that one bad inning, one bad game, one bad month, one bad season and more, are just part of the journey. He’s able to see all that even as he nears the end of his own journey, however far away that hopefully remains.
Scully certainly wouldn’t say that fans aren’t entitled to be upset about the fortunes of the Dodgers this year, but I do wonder why more fans don’t follow the tone he sets. They worship him, but they don’t emulate him. I don’t judge those fans for it; I just find it interesting.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 2, 2010 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought you were channeling your inner-Sly

by Eric Stephen on Aug 2, 2010 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

This kind of hits it on the head

As much as this season sucks and is filled with frustration, its still baseball. Because as bad as some moments have been, there are still so many great ones. Because my five year old daughter asks me every time a Dodger game comes on, “Is Clayton Kershaw pitching?” Because some guy named John Ely gave us two or three weeks of unexpected excitement. Because there are still very few things that can give me as much joy as hearing Vin Scully announce, “Its time for Dodger baseball.” etc., etc., etc.

by prosellis on Aug 2, 2010 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dodgers have a completely even run differential now.
Only team in baseball close to that.

by Joey Joe on Aug 2, 2010 10:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Yay it is Matt Kemp rip day on Dodgertalk! Ugh. Five hits. Suck it.

by Alex41592 on Aug 2, 2010 11:10 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Busy day here today

I believe this is comment number 2,843 on the day here.

Only half were about strawberries :)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 2, 2010 11:12 PM PDT reply actions  

So, on a somewhat happier note

it appears Carlos Santana’s injury may not be anywhere near as bad as we first heard. If you’ve seen the video, it would seem Mr. Santana got very lucky.

by prosellis on Aug 2, 2010 11:18 PM PDT reply actions  

That's great to hear

I didn’t like hearing he got hurt.

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 2, 2010 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

ahaha, Ken Levine said every time the Lakers lose, everyone blames Odom. So true.

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Aug 2, 2010 11:20 PM PDT reply actions  

However if is Kemp is Odom

then this team has no Kobe or even Gasol

by bhsportsguy on Aug 2, 2010 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

This team needs intangibles.

You made us proud Lake Show! 2009 and 2010 BACK 2 BACK CHAMPS!

by sumo390 on Aug 2, 2010 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

has intangibles, just mostly very negative intangibles right now …

by 68elcamino427 on Aug 2, 2010 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well that sucked

The Stadium was just dead for most of the game. I feel like the Padres got really lucky(3 linedrives caught that shouldnt have been caught and the play with Loney/Kemp in the 1st, among others) and honestly, when you hit TWO 3 run homeruns, you should win. The bright side? Kemp is still the bison… I just want to say I called the homerun :)

One final thought… WTF was Joe thinking when he took out Furcal for Carroll? Dumbass(and remember, I am a Yankee fan who holds Torre in the highest regards, so that should hurt even more…)

by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Aug 2, 2010 11:22 PM PDT reply actions  

… was Joe thinking … ???
hard to tell lately

by 68elcamino427 on Aug 2, 2010 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

babip?

what does the dodgers’ look like since the break?

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Aug 2, 2010 11:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Good question

I looked it up on Fangraphs. Over the past month, the Dodgers babip is 0.268 which is the second worst of all 30 teams. Amazingly, the Mets are at 0.256. Twins are #1 at 0.356. Padres are 9th at a reasonable 0.308 clip over the past month.
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Aug 3, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is the HR

a ball in play? I thought those were taken out of BABIP.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 3, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

I took it to mean that if some of the fly outs we have hit would have went over the fence, our BABIP would go up.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 3, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Skipped watching another Dodgers game to hang out with friends.

its keeping me more sane than watching the games will.

So, losing streak until TBLA night?

by Tripon on Aug 3, 2010 1:13 AM PDT reply actions  

Wow, I was starting to deal with this collapse with some zen peace, but then I read about Ned’s comments, above. That’s the same mindset that keeps sending Joan Rivers back for more plastic surgery.

by Little Blue Bicycle on Aug 3, 2010 5:59 AM PDT reply actions  

Same here

is Ned just too old school to understand the reality of today’s game?

by BFDC on Aug 3, 2010 6:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think he understands "90 games"

DePo lost 91 in 2005 and was fired. I think Ned is back in “save my job” mode. Batten down the hatches.

by Little Blue Bicycle on Aug 3, 2010 7:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd rather

lose 90 in one year, than lose 81 several years in a row.

by BFDC on Aug 3, 2010 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

That is the rub

Ned may not have that luxury. We really don’t know what kind of mandate he has from Frank. The last time the team went into a rebuild mode, he panicked and fired the GM. We have an incredibly thin skinned owner who has already shown how arrow slinging from the media does not bounce off but wounds him every time. We also have a minor league system that has not produced jack shit since the historic 2005 Jacksonville group invaded the team, with Kershaw being the only exception. And really what one player is untouchable from that group? None.

Of course it does not help that Ned has traded probably the two best prospects who could have helped the team and let other relief pitchers walk away while trading for relief pitching every summer.

A year 1/2 ago I thought Ned was getting at his job, I no longer think that is the case. He simply got lucky last year.

Kershaw is the only exception.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 3, 2010 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

who is to blame

for the failings of the minor league system?

by LA Taco on Aug 3, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'll let the prospect guys weigh in

But frankly, I feel that we don’t have enough information. It seems so easy to give Ned all the blame for the things that go wrong and the Players We Like, White, and Ng all the credit when things go right.

I would imagine that there is quite enough blame to go around, from McCourt (in his lack of funding) to Colletti to White to the minor league players themselves.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 3, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

The fact that the Dodgers don’t take every opportunity to maximize the number of high draft picks they get coupled with the dismal funding for the international market make it seem like they aren’t really that committed to building and sustaining a minor league system. Which is a fine plan if you can drop a couple hundred million into free agents every off-season.

by prosellis on Aug 3, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Blame Paul DePodesta for only acquiring two useful players in his drafts + Carlos Santana.

Blame Logan White for having some crappy drafts.

Blame Ned for trading those few useful players for magic beans.

by regfairfield on Aug 3, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I look at the minor leagues and although there hasn't been much the last couple years,

I feel pretty good about the future (in terms of 2 – 3 years from now). I just hope we can lock up at least half our current “core” and sign some decent FA’s.

Of course, for this to happen, Ned and Frank likely need to be gone.

by BFDC on Aug 3, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

A true .500 team could easily lose 90 games just based off of random bad luck. Then again, so could a .400 team. :)

by Xeifrank on Aug 3, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am afraid for our future.

by OB12 on Aug 3, 2010 6:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Consistency

Reading over the game thread it bothered me that some posters were giving Kemp a free pass on not running hard to home. The only reason this bothered me is that when Casey Blake did the same thing earlier in the year, I made a point to comment that almost all runners will pull up on that play when they know no one is going to make a play on them at home, and I’d swear the same commentators who blasted Blake for not running hard were making excuses for Kemp not running hard.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 3, 2010 7:19 AM PDT reply actions  

That just means you are an excellent salesman. Or that we only defend the players we like.

by Michael White on Aug 3, 2010 7:41 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Or maybe since when Casey did it it was the first time

so we weren’t used to it, but when Kemp did it last night we’re now used to that kind of futility on basepaths.

by Jesse S. on Aug 3, 2010 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

wouldn't the Futility be on james Loney for being thrown out at 3rd?

Also, different circumstances, end of the game vs top of the 1st. Russell Martin actually being safe on 2nd base, vs. Loney being tagged out by 3rd base.

And for a coaching staff that won’t call out for GA non-hustling every freaking time he grounds out to the infield somewhere, I can’t really give a shit anymore.

When is it okay to not hustle? When is it okay to hustle? What’s the determining factor to getting yelled at by the coaching staff? Why is it okay for Reed Johnson and GA to not hustle when its not okay for Martin and Kemp, and the other young players?

Now bhsportsguy will yell at me again for taking the younger players side.

P.S., I didn’t see the game, so my view may be skewed somewhat on this issue.

by Tripon on Aug 3, 2010 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's a valid point

I always get mad when players don’t hustle as it happens, much like last night with Kemp and in Anaheim with Reed Johnson, but in reality, everyone does that. I mean, it doesn’t make it right, but the likelihood of them scoring on that play is so high it really is understandable that they wouldn’t be going at 100% speed.

You are right about Loney (and Martin); if they didn’t make the bonehead play(s) in the first place, nobody would care about Kemp or Johnson.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 3, 2010 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

To me, it sort of like blaming Kemp for not backing up Russell’s throws to 2nd base. In that situation, Kemp has to wait to for the ball to get to Martin, see he is throwing, and then run 60 yards to back up the base. I dont think he busts his ass every time doing so, but he isnt the the culprit on the play. Blame Martin for making a poor throw, blame the 2nd baseman/ss for not backing up the base. While in those spots Kemp should have been doing better, he is at best 3rd in line of what went wrong on the play. In this instance, i place 100% blame on Loney because you just cannot make that baseball play. Should Kemp have been running harder? Sure. Does every player in major league baseball break it down when they know there wont be a play at home plate? Yes. For me, Loney is completely on the hook for taking a chance in a situation where everything points against taking that chance.

by UCLADodger32 on Aug 3, 2010 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I said

both should be benched, Hanley style!

by Xeifrank on Aug 3, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also, did Jeff Weaver give up four runs?

Instead of deriding Kemp for not crossing home plate in time, why is Weaver given a pass for this game?

by Tripon on Aug 3, 2010 9:08 AM PDT reply actions  

Win Probability Added

by Dodgers, per the Baseball-Reference box score:

1) Matt Kemp +15.2%

13) Jeff Weaver -12.0%
14) Scotty Pods -15.3%
15) Hiroki Kuroda -34.8%

by Eric Stephen on Aug 3, 2010 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow

Podsednik is awesome!

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 3, 2010 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Weaver is what he is

a middling relief pitcher who gets signed at the last minute to fill out a bullpen. Matt Kemp got grief because at the time the team had still not scored in a close game and that was only his first hit of the four more to come.

I’ve been watching games for much to long to agree with those who tell me that runners always run full speed when scoring if no play is going to be made on them. It simply is not true, if they think a play is going to be made on them they will bust butt, but if they know no play is coming home, a very large % of baserunners will hold up as they come home. The last thing Matt Kemp is thinking is I’ve got to score because James is going do something incrediblly stupid and try to get to 3rd base.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 3, 2010 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kemp would have totally gotten blamed if he was the one who got thrown out at third with two outs.

Unlike every other person on this team not named Rafael, Kemp actually does things like take extra bases so of course he’s gonna get thrown out more.

by regfairfield on Aug 3, 2010 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

or location plot. Same difference.

by UCLADodger32 on Aug 3, 2010 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

We got 1.5 good years out of Weaver, and now he turned back into what we thought he was. Time to move on with our other bullpen arms in the minors such as

by regfairfield on Aug 3, 2010 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's just lucky we've got Lindblom doing so...

Uhhh…Ok, well at least we’ve got James Mc…No…I know Scott Elbert can step in and….

We’re fucked.

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 3, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

had to post this

I was reading on the Dodgers site, that the team had held a meeting before yesterday’s game. Ned was there, but apparently didn’t say anything. He was quoted as saying afterwards, “I already sent a message when I got them 4 new players.”

What was the message?

(ball on tee, wait’s to see who hits it.)

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 3, 2010 9:35 AM PDT reply actions  

The message

Play every season like it’s your last!

by Eric Stephen on Aug 3, 2010 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Run faster, less dingers?

by regfairfield on Aug 3, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Matt Kemp, you’re next

by Tripon on Aug 3, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

lmao

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 3, 2010 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Screw you Kershaw and Billingsley?

by OB12 on Aug 3, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

“These two guys are not winners. They are just lucky to still be in uniform after all the games they haven’t won this year.”

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 3, 2010 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

rec'd

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 3, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

You’re lucky your asses weren’t traded four years ago for Nick Punto.

by kinbote on Aug 3, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

“You guys are all expendable, just look at what I did to Dewitt, and I actually liked him!”

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 3, 2010 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s better to get thrown out on the bases than not thrown out at all

by regfairfield on Aug 3, 2010 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

^

this is like my own little 4+1 game to watch.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 3, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t fuck up again, or I’ll trade more guys you’ve never heard of.

by regfairfield on Aug 3, 2010 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

didn't he already do that?

from what Pods did last night, we’re gonna start calling him Slappy McPopup vanilla.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 3, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well played, Walter

The Spirit of MeatTrain'10!

by DodgerBlueBalls on Aug 3, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Do you think I won’t go out and sign Brett Tomko? Or trade for Mark Hendrickson? Hey Matt and Andre, I’ve got Luis Gonzalez on speed dial.

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 3, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

We’re just here to provide infield practice for the opposing team?

by OB12 on Aug 3, 2010 9:42 AM PDT reply actions  

oh shit

Those guys are crazy! Don’t fuck with 4chan people.

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 3, 2010 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

sad

those people give anime fans a bad name.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 3, 2010 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow

That is simultaneously awesome and horrible

by Real DL on Aug 3, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m still waiting to see definitive proof that that’s not true.

by LA Taco on Aug 3, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Kyle Russell, Post All-Star Break:

.321/.367/.625 4 HR 9 RBI 5 2B 4 BB 17 K 18/56

Awesome!

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 3, 2010 9:52 AM PDT reply actions  

Two and a half week sample size?

To his credit, he’s managed to go all of August without striking out.

by regfairfield on Aug 3, 2010 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Impressive!

Wait, there’s only 3 days in August so far

by Tripon on Aug 3, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

When you strike out once every three at bats, going three days is pretty remarkable.

by prosellis on Aug 3, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was totally serious about that “to his credit” part.

And it’s only been two days, but still.

by regfairfield on Aug 3, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

all sample size is small

until it is sustained. I mean hell, we’re calling the Dodger offense dead after two and a half weeks.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 3, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kyle Russell is the Straw of Hope

And I will grasp at him, thank you very much.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 3, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

All traded for two peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.

Mind you, they were really good peanut butter and jelly sandwiches

by Tripon on Aug 3, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

please

they were vegimite, it’s gritty.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 3, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

And nutella

It seems awesome, but it completely lacks nutritional value, and when you have too much of it, you realize just how awful it is

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 3, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

oh my god

yes. Can I get some bananas on this sandwich?

Leading the league in OMGs.

by Maddz on Aug 3, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry

the Phillies got the bananas.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 3, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

FUCKING JAYSON WERTH

This is why we can’t have nice things

Leading the league in OMGs.

by Maddz on Aug 3, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sands to 1B with Russell in RF.

by OB12 on Aug 3, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know you're joking

and I wouldn’t want to give up Robinson for Maholm…

…but I kinda wish Ned had picked up Maholm instead of Lilly. Yes, Lilly is better, but Maholm would be on the team next year and be capable.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 3, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

must suck for the riot

being K’d the last out of the last two games.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 3, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sigh

How sad is this? We wish our team had acquired Maholm. We dream the impossible dream that is Paul Maholm.

We suck.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 3, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

And evil

But that’s neither here nor there.

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 3, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think we were all insane to think the Dodgers could have gotten Lee, Halladay, or Oswalt. We should have known our limit was Ted Lilly…The GREAT Ted Lilly. Hoooraahhhhh!

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 3, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, the more I think about the missed opportunity that was Paul Maholm, the more irritated I get. We should’ve done Maholm, Dotel for McDonald, Lambo, Wallach, and a fourth prospect. Plus we would still have DeWitt.

Imagine that, Paul Maholm, a missed opportunity.

by OB12 on Aug 3, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

1. I don’t need a reason. It’s not like the gin would go un-drunk if there were no such thing as the Dodgers and/or Paul Maholm.

2. I am totally nicknaming Paul Maholm “The Impossible Dream.”

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 3, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

#1

is why you’re my hero Humma.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 3, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can’t stop laughing at this

Leading the league in OMGs.

by Maddz on Aug 3, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't agree with this

I dislike Maholm and everything he represents.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 3, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maholm represents an ideal

that the team probably should have tried to acquire someone who could not only help in 2010, but also help in 2011.

The problem is that Maholm is probably not good enough to be that guy.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 3, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Except that with the fifth starter mess this year, and only two SP on the roster for next year

He most certainly would have helped the team both this year and next.

And yet he was still out of our reach.

And that is depressing.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 3, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

He most certainly would have helped the team both this year and next.

That seems like a stretch. He could suck much worse in 2011 then he currently sucks.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 3, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Paul Maholm: Not Even Good Enough to Start on a Team that Has Only Two Starting Pitchers

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 3, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Something about this is incredibly hilarious to me. I almost expect someone to say “He’s a monster!”

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 3, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Russ Mitchell?

That is his best position IRC

by BFDC on Aug 3, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

then why the fuck is he in the outfield?

don’t we have a shortage of 3rd base prospects? and what does IRC mean?

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 3, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think we are confusing two different players. Kyle Russell (OF) and Russell Mitchell (IF).

by OB12 on Aug 3, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I got confused

I got a condition.

Maybe i’m cracking…maybe I’m becoming what they always said i’d be.

A maniac…..a psychopath.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 3, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dodgers have to put him on the 40 man in the off season right?

I think protecting Mitchell is a sort of litmus test for the front office this season. If they protect him, they realize that developing your own bench players has their own value.

If they don’t, and he’s gets picked in the rule 5 draft, it just shows that they love the Jamey Carroll’s, Scotty Pods, and Reed Johnson’s of the world too much. Guys that is developed outside of the org and can be signed for only a few million per year.

by Tripon on Aug 3, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mitchell should be next year’s Belliard.

by OB12 on Aug 3, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mitchell

Should be this year’s Belliard.

by BFDC on Aug 3, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was gonna say

there’s no way, but there is a way that’ll happen: next year’s budget crunch. Too many holes to fill and not enough money. It’s possible. And if instead a few million are spent on Belliard, that’s a sign of nincompoopery.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 3, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mitchell

needs to prove he can be 09 Blake

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 3, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I believe that our bench will probably still have some veteran representation with Carroll and probably Pods and a RH complement to Paul. It would be good if they gave the other two spots to Mitchell and Ellis, though.

by OB12 on Aug 3, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

There were supposed to be 2 I’s. IIRC = If I recall correctly.

by BFDC on Aug 3, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

it should be IIRC, I think. If I recall correctly

Leading the league in OMGs.

by Maddz on Aug 3, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

BTW

I’ve been on the Russ Mitchell bandwagon for awhile now. Bring the dude up, see what he’s got.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 3, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kershaw is now 34th in baseball in innings pitched

with 137.2. That’s freakin awesome.

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 3, 2010 10:02 AM PDT reply actions  

It is

until he’s overworked.

Note: I have no idea if Kershaw is being overworked.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 3, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nah, not really

He threw about 180 innings last season, he’s on pace for about 200 this year (and with no playoffs, he’ll be all the more rested!!!).

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 3, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

the onion:
Addressing fans, rival MLB teams, and commissioner Bud Selig, Indians general manager Mark Shapiro delivered a heartfelt apology Tuesday, lamenting the lack of a Cy Young Award–winning pitcher his team could trade to a legitimate contender. “I apologize, especially to the large-market teams like the Yankees and the Red Sox, that we don’t have a starter like Cliff Lee or CC Sabathia whom we can give away for next to nothing,” said Shapiro, adding that he feels “just awful” that teams have worked so hard this season and the Indians have no way to help them. “But I assure you, we’ve been developing a number of prospects we soon won’t be able to afford.” Shapiro, who said the Indians really had no need for a closer, claimed the team was willing to part with reliever Chris Perez for $5,000 and a new baseline field marker.

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Aug 3, 2010 10:26 AM PDT reply actions  

over/under

on Shin-Soo Choo being traded next year?

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 3, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I want him as a Dodger so badly. I love me some Big League Choo.

by UCLADodger32 on Aug 3, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

agreed

even though we have a lot of good outfield guys, that dude is a complete player.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 3, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Choo still has to serve two years in the Korean military as a requirement of his South Korean citizenship, and he’s nearing the end of his ability to delay it.

I’m not trading for a near 30 player who can potentially be taken away from me.

by Tripon on Aug 3, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Its hard to comprehend that the big leagues essentially shut down

So the players could go to WWII. Could you imagine that happening today!? Hell no.

by BFDC on Aug 3, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

There is a reason for that

But I don’t want to get into it. I’d totally violate Rule 5.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 3, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe. Sure.

Still don’t know that this is the appropriate forum.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 3, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

You can say anything you want

provided you use a FanPost to make your point and not a Main Page thread. Of course that is just my opinion and my opinion may not reflect management opinion.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 3, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not to downplay the contrast between then and now, but considering FDR’s famous “green light” letter, I’m not sure I’d phrase it quite that way.

by JonWeisman on Aug 3, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pete Gray shakes his one fist at this comment!

by Eric Stephen on Aug 3, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

cheaply off the DL

though they were saying his injury might not be as bad as it looked.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 3, 2010 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Gary C. didn’t work out too well for him. He should have used the flatbush or the packrat.

"A baseball game is nothing but a great slow contraption for getting you to pay attention to the cadence of a summer day."

by Langhorne on Aug 3, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

lmao

Great stuff

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 3, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

This blog is about to go into uncharted territory

for current management. Maybe Reg can give some pointers on how to manage a blog when the team sucks.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 3, 2010 11:02 AM PDT reply actions  

hahaha

True Blue Great Lakes?

Or True Blue Chattanooga

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 3, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

True Blue Loons!!!!

Leading the league in OMGs.

by Maddz on Aug 3, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think we should have made a nickname for their rotation before it got split up:

The Great Lakes 5 (Can you believe how original I made it?)

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 3, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not being hyperbolic when I say

Suns Thoughts helped covert me to being a Dodgers fan.

Problem being, top to bottom, the system is rotten right now. The ML team is playing very poorly, the top prospects are playing poorly, there is little hope that next year’s team will be better than this year’s. In 05 the Suns were an easy distraction. What do we got now?

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 3, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know being a PR guy you need to write hyperbole

for your clients, changing the 3 month reserve service into a hero’s model, but Top to Bottom rotten is simply to much. We have glimmers of hope at every single minor league stop, with some great work having been done by people like Jansen/Sands/MaGill that we had no right to expect help from. Just because the top 2010 prospects are lacking does not mean the system in general is lacking. People have stepped up.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 3, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

But it's not like 05

when the summer of our discontent was warmed by the Suns of Jacksonville.

Yes, there are bright spots, glimmers of hope, things with feathers that are trying desperately to perch within our souls. But I can’t help but compare it to that season that was so poor… we could look on the horizon and know — know! — that better days were coming ahead, and soon.

Things aren’t as dark now as they were back then — the team is merely mediocre, not mind-numbingly awful — but neither is the light at the end of the tunnel as bright.

OK, “rotten from top to bottom” is a little rough. How about this: The team is mediocre and even with the bright spots the team looks to be mediocre for the forseeable future.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 3, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not going to hire you to spin me if that is the best you can do:)

Seriously – as much time as we waxed about the Jacksonville team, five years later the only one’s still standing who were worth our time are Billingsely and Broxton. I think the current Choo Choo team can give us two of those. One was Jansen who is already here just like Broxton made his debut in 2005. The other could be Withrow, Miller, Robinson, Gordon, Sands. Will any of them be better then Loney/Martin? Probably not, but they could all be better then JtD who was the main focus back in 2005.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 3, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Remind me again who were involved in that?

Bills, Martin, Broxton, Laroche, and Guzman?

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Aug 3, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Have no one read said blog?

by regfairfield on Aug 3, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sands Thoughts

When is Jerry Sands getting traded?

Aug. 31st, 2010?
July 31st, 2011?
July 31st, 2017?

by Tripon on Aug 3, 2010 11:16 AM PDT reply actions  

5 minutes before

Ned Colletti is set upon by wolves

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 3, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

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2012 Dodgers Payroll

Italics denote estimates
Pos No Player 2012 Salary
C 17 Ellis $500,000 team control
1B 7 Loney $6,375,000
2B 14 Ellis $2,500,000
3B 5 Uribe $8,000,000
SS 9 Gordon $485,000 team control
LF 21 Rivera $4,000,000
CF 27 Kemp $10,000,000
RF 16 Ethier $10,950,000

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OF 10 Gwynn $850,000
2B/3B 3 Kennedy $800,000
C 18 Treanor $850,000
IF 12 Sellers $485,000 team control

SP 22 Kershaw $6,000,000
SP 58 Billingsley $9,000,000
SP 29 Lilly $12,000,000
SP 37 Capuano $3,000,000
SP 44
Harang $3,000,000

CL 54 Guerra $485,000 team control
RHP 74
Jansen $500,000 team control
RHP 55 Guerrier $4,750,000
RHP Coffey $1,000,000
RHP 66 MacDougal $650,000
LHP 57 Elbert $485,000 team control
RHP 36
Hawksworth $500,000 team control

TJ 41 De La Rosa $485,000 team control



Manny $8,087,432 deferred


Andruw $3,375,000 deferred


Pierre $3,050,000 deferred
Furcal $3,000,000 deferred
Kuroda $2,000,000 deferred
Garland $1,500,000 option buyout
Blake $1,250,000 option buyout

Totals
$112,162,432

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Players on 40-man roster used as roster
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Current 40-man roster count: 40
(not including Belisario)

2012 Non-Roster Invitees

No Player Age*
63 Jose Ascanio rhp
27
61 Alberto Castillo lhp
36
60 Matt Chico lhp
29
35 John Grabow lhp
33
59 Angel Guzman rhp
30
47 Wil Ledezma lhp
31
72 Shane Lindsay rhp
27
62 Fernando Nieve rhp 29
73 Scott Rice lhp 30
70 Will Savage rhp
27
71 Ryan Tucker rhp
25

30 Josh Bard c 34
82 Griff Erickson c 24
81 Matt Wallachc 26
67 Jeff Baisley 3b/1b 29
62 Luis Cruz ss/2b 28
33 Josh Fields 3b 29
64 Lance Zawadzki if 27
56 Cory Sullivan of 32

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