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Dodgers 2010 Draft Summary

Now that the signing deadline has come and passed, I wanted to give my overview and opinion of the Dodgers 2010 draft.  I didn’t mean for it to turn out as long as it did, but once I started writing I couldn’t stop.  As a whole, I think the Dodgers did very well for themselves.  They signed 30 of their 50 picks (although 14th round pick Alex McRee already retired for an unknown reason after just 1 inning in the Arizona Rookie League), including several players that I consider solid prospects.

Deals at the Deadline

Let’s begin with the deals that got done at the deadline, starting with our biggest prize.  Zach Lee obviously was a huge pickup, and as I’ve already mentioned in the comments, I immediately consider him the top prospect in the system.  Some have questioned my ranking, saying that guys like Jerry Sands and Trayvon Robinson have already performed well in AA and thus should be ranked higher than Lee.  My response is this: I don’t rank guys based on their AA stats, but instead rank them on their big league potential.  Of course it all still comes down one’s own opinion, but I personally think that Zach Lee will have a much more successful career in the big leagues than anyone else in our system.  It’s really all about ceilings and the likelihood that a player will reach the ceiling, and I think Zach Lee has a much better possibly of being a #1 starter than Trayvon Robinson has of being a star in center fielder.  Anyways, enough with the rankings and onto a quick scouting report.  What I like most about Lee is that he already has 3 pitches that are already considered plus pitches by some, and that he has a very clean delivery.  While he might not be able to hit the upper 90’s, I’d rather have a guy who throws 93 with a good changeup and breaking ball.  He also already has solid control of his pitches, which is something most of our top pitching prospects lack.  According to the MLB.com scouting report:

Fastball: Lee has touched 95 mph on the gun and generally sits in the 90-92 mph range.

Fastball movement: He has plus movement. Everything he throws has depth to it.

Slider: It's nice and short, a plus breaking ball thrown 79-81 mph.

Changeup: It's Major League average now and projects to be a plus pitch in the future. He's not afraid to throw it when behind in the count.

Control: He's got better command and feel for pitching than you expect a two-sport star to have.

The other thing I like about Lee is his athletic build and his multi-sport background.  6’4" is the perfect pitchers height so his velocity is only going to improve with professional coaching.  As Logan White said, he could be in the big leagues by the time he is 21 years old, which would be great.  Obviously the $5.25M we gave Lee is a big chunk of change, and a lot of that had to do with his leverage, but even still I think he’ll turn out to be one of the better picks in the entire 2010 draft.  As Jim Callis said from Baseball America, he would have been drafted much higher had he not had signability issues.  He was even considered the 2nd best high school pitcher in the draft by some.  When it is all said and done, I think Kershaw will have a better big league career than Zach Lee, but I think it will be a lot closer than people think.

Star-divide

Joc Pederson got the 2nd biggest bonus from the Dodgers despite being selected in the 11th round.  Had he not signed, he was going to play baseball at USC, and had even talked about walking on to the USC football team (he was a First-Team All League wide-out at Palo Alto High School).  Like Lee, Pederson would have been selected much higher had he not been considered a tough sign before the draft, and had even been discussed as a possible first round pick.  Scouts say that has the potential to be a 5 tool player, although none of his 5 tools have a particularly high ceiling.  In short, he has ability to one day be a big league regular, but he’ll probably never be a major league star.  A comparable player that comes to mind is Ryan Spilborghs, although his frame reminds scouts of Jim Edmonds.  A lefty thrower and hitter, Joc has the speed to play center field, although he’s probably better suited for a corner outfield position.  Overall, I expect Pederson to rank pretty favorably in my offseason prospect rankings.

Scott Schebler is yet another multi-sport athlete who signed late with the Dodgers.  In one article I read, it said that Schebler scored seven touchdowns as a wide out in football and averaged 40 yards per punt, averaged 18 points per game in basketball, scored 24 goals and led his team in soccer, and set school track records in the 55 meters, long jump and 800-meter relay despite running track and field for the first time.  And in baseball, he is a talented outfielder that tore up the collegiate Northwoods League this summer.  In that league, he hit 10 home runs in 58 games and was named to the league’s all-star team.  According to one report from perfectgame.com, "Scott Schebler is a 6'0'', 190 lb. strong very mature build. Excellent runner for his size, 6.52 in the 60. Solid of actions, accurate arm with some carry. tall stance hitting, leg lift trigger, long and strong swing, ball comes off bat hard on contact, gap power, swing will get long at times, but he can really hit."  Scott is still just 19 years old, but could move relatively quickly through the system because he’s already played at the junior college level. 

The Dodgers gave 31st round pick Derek Cone $100K to sign just days before the deadline.  Cone was the ace of the staff for Mesa Community College (Arizona), and recorded a 1.93 ERA and 105 strikeouts in 84 innings.  His most impressive performance in college came when he threw 11.1 innings in a playoff game, no hitting the other team for 9.2 of those innings.  Derek is a big guy at 6’5" and was going to attend BYU had he not signed with the Dodgers.

21st round pick Noel Cuevas signed right around the deadline as well for $100K, but his signing went unnoticed by most.  I’ll be honest, I didn’t even realize that he signed until I read a little blurb on dodgers.com.  Cuevas is an outfielder from Puerto Rico who is just 18 years old.  According to Baseball America, he has intriguing raw power, and although it doesn’t always translate into home runs during games, he can put on a show in batting practice.  He’s apparently destined for left field because of his below average arm, but he is strong runner with good makeup.  I actually watching a video of him and he does have a very weak arm, but I liked his swing which does seem to generate a lot of power.  Still raw in terms of baseball, Cuevas will likely benefit from playing every day in the minor leagues and could have some success once he adjusts to more advanced pitching.

Finally, Andre’s brother Devon Ethier signed around the deadline, but I really don’t think he is anything special.  Even though he plays outfield like Andre, he is a very different player in that he doesn’t have much power.  However, he can hit for a decent average and has the ability to steal bases.  Overall, I don’t think he’ll amount to much in the Dodgers system.

 

Notable 2010 Signees Already Playing in Our System

More than 20 players signed with the Dodgers well before the deadline and have already been playing with Dodger minor league affiliates.  Most have already been discussed several times in my minor league reports, but I’ll mention the players drafted in the top 10 rounds who signed, as well as other guys who have potential to be legitimate prospects in my opinion (in the order they were drafted). 

Ralston Cash – The Dodgers probably could have drafted a player with more upside with their 2nd round pick, but instead went with Ethan Martin’s cousin because they figured they could sign him for a decent price.  Turns out they inked the 78th overall pick on June 20th for $463K, which is a pretty good deal for the Dodgers.  Ralston has a low 90’s fastball with sink, and he has touched 94 mph.  Some scouts describe his secondary stuff as fringy, while others believe his changeup and slider can one day become plus pitches.  Cash just turned 19 years old, and has performed well so far in the Arizona Rookie League.  Hopefully he’ll move up to the Loons rotation in 2011, although he may join the team late after an extended stay in spring training. 

Leon Landry – The Dodgers took the athletic Landry in the 3rd round, and have gotten their $284,400’s worth so far.  Leon has put up very strong stats in the Pioneer League and plays very solid defense.  The Ogden Raptors announcer compared him to Andres Torres, and said that he is a gap hitter who can drive the ball.  He’ll definitely play in a full season ball next year, but whether it’s in Lo-A or Hi-A I’m not sure.

James Baldwin – I was excited about Baldwin as a 4th round pick because he is a very athletic player with good bloodlines.  While he started off slow in his professional debut, he has been much better over the past month and leads the Arizona Dodgers in stolen bases.  On the downside his strikeout to walk ratio is pretty poor, but I’ll give him a pass this year since he’s just 18 years old.

Jake Lemmerman – The Dodgers 5th round pick signed very quickly, and has been hitting for the Raptors ever since.  Jake boasts an .350 average and even has 5 homers on the season.  The 21 year old has proven to be a solid defender at shortstop, although Baseball America predicts that he’ll eventually move to 2nd or 3rd because of his below average speed.  If he is able to stay at shortstop, he could be very strong Dodger prospect in the future.

Ryan Christenson – Little was known about Christenson when he was drafted, but he has proven to be a solid selection for the Dodgers thus far.  After dominating the Arizona Rookie League in 4 starts, Ryan has been more hittable in the Midwest League, but his FIP with the Loons is still an impressive 3.16.  At South Mountain Community College, Christenson struck out 59 batters in 58 innings and allowed just one home run.

Blake Dean – Dean was definitely as a safe and cost effective pick for the Dodgers as he signed for just $35K.  While he had over 50 home runs during his 4 seasons with LSU, I’m not sure how valuable he’ll be in the Dodgers system since he doesn’t have a ton of power, yet plays 1st base.  He’s had a couple of big games since turning pro, but his overall stats are pretty disappointing when compared to his teammates, most who are younger than him.

Steve Domecus – Domecus provides the Dodgers with depth at the catching position, and luckily he can swing the bat a little bit.  However, he is already 23 years old and scouts predict an eventual move to the outfield.  So far with the Raptors he hasn’t been very good, and only has 2 walks in over 100 at bats.

Bobby Coyle – Coyle is a local boy from Chatsworth who put up solid numbers during his junior season at Fresno State.  According to Baseball America’s scouting report, "He has good pitch recognition skills, which means he has a chance to be a high on-base percentage hitter, but needs to exercise more patience and plate discipline, which is also reflected in his stats. He is not a burner, but an above-average runner and projects as an average left fielder."  Coyle has been pretty good in his professional debut, and actually leads the Raptors in RBI’s.  However, I’m not sure what kind of a future this 21 year old has with the Dodgers organization. 

Matt Kirkland – I was excited when the Dodgers signed Kirkland because I’ve heard a lot of good things about him.  He has a lot of raw power, and has the body to play a solid 3rd base.  He hit 17 homers as a junior in high school and 11 HR’s as a senior.  He had been committed to Tennessee, but the Dodgers were able to sway him to sign with an undisclosed figure.  While he’s a little older than most players coming out of high school, he is still just 19 years old and has a lot of time to improve his game.  He hasn’t gotten a ton of action in the Arizona Rookie League since signing, but he has at least shown a good eye at the plate.

Jesse Bosnik – 13th round pick Bosnik was a shortstop in college, but he plays 3rd base as a pro.  He got off to a quick start with the Raptors in June, but has slowed down considerably over the past month and a half.  Even so, the 6’2" lefty will most likely get a chance to prove himself in a full season league next year.

Andrew Pevsner – 16th round pick Pevsner has very good stats so far with the Raptors, but I was disappointed when I heard he only threw in the mid 80’s.  He does belong in the Dodgers organization, though, because he was born on the day Kirk Gibson hit his famous home run in 1988.

Logan Bawcom – 17th round pick Bawcom has been beat up a bit recently on the mound for the Raptors, but still sports a strong K/9 and throws in the low 90’s.  According to the Ogden announcer, he also has a hard 83 mph slider and a changeup.

Red Patterson – I didn’t consider the 29th round pick Patterson a Dodger prospect when he was first drafted, but his stats in the Pioneer League may be changing my mind.  The 6’3" right has an ERA right around 2.50 and has a solid K/9.  Sure he’s 23 years old, but those stats are pretty impressive for the hitter friendly league.

Shawn Tolleson – Much like Patterson, Tolleson was just an after though when he signed with the Dodgers.  However, he has been spectacular in his professional debut.  The 30th round pick has a very solid cutter which has translated into an ERA below 1.  A Tommy John surgery survivor, Tolleson’s performance might just be the most surprising thus far out of all the picks in the draft.

Beau Brett – Beau is significant because he is the nephew of George Brett and wasn’t expected to sign after barely playing last season at USC.  However, the 21 year chose to sign and has been pretty disappointing so far.  The fact that he plays 1st base doesn’t help.

Steve Matre – The 39th round pick actually signed pretty late, and only made his professional debut about a week ago.  He had Tommy John surgery in 2009 and didn’t play his senior season at the College of Mount Saint Joseph.  There has got to be a reason the Dodgers signed him, so we’ll just have to wait and see if he turns into anything. 

 

Notable Players who Didn’t Sign

Kevin Gausman – Gausman was the only pick in our top 14 that didn’t sign, and he really is the only one of significance in the entire draft.  I never expected the Dodgers to sign both Gausman and Lee, so I wasn’t too disappointed to he hear that he wasn’t going to sign.  Sure he throws hard, but his secondary pitches are currently below average and don’t ever project to be better than mediocre.  He will be a draft eligible sophomore in two years, so it will be interesting to see how high he gets drafted in 2012.

Jake Eliopoulos – Eliopoulos was the Blue Jays 2nd round pick in 2009, but obviously didn’t sign and has gone downhill since.  It was rumored that the Dodgers were going to announce a deal with Eliopoulos at the deadline, but it didn’t end up happening and it was probably for the best.  Jake has attitude issues and had an awful season in 2010.  I really don’t think we missed out on much here.

Ben Carhart – I don’t know much about the 19th round pick, but one of the members here at TrueBlueLA said that he had a solid offensive season in 2010 for Palm Beach CC, and was also able to hit 94 mph from the mound.  He sounded like an interesting player, so I’m a little disappointed he didn’t sign

Chad Wallach – There was no chance that the 3rd son of Tim Wallach would sign out of high school with the Dodgers as a 43rd round pick, but it was fun to hope.  He’ll attend Cal State Fullerton and will most likely be a two way player.  Don’t be surprised if we draft him again in 3 years.

Nick Baker – Steve Garvey’s son played on the same team as Baker, and Garvey was so impressed with Nick that he lobbied that the Dodgers watch him pitch.  Tommy Lasorda ended up going out to watch him pitch, and told the Dodger scouts to keep an eye on him.  The Dodgers selected him in the 44th round, but he quickly chose to go to Chico State.  Again, don’t be surprised if you hear his name on draft day in 3 years.

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It’s really all about ceilings and the likelihood that a player will reach the ceiling

I think the likelihood is what people would disagree with. He’s only 18 and way too much could go wrong between now and starting for LAD. Nobody doubts his celing, but TINSTAAPP for a dude who hasn’t even thrown a professional inning means the likelihood of reaching his ceiling has to be fairly low at this point, right?

by Michael White on Aug 20, 2010 7:08 AM PDT reply actions  

Personally

I don’t count on things going wrong for a player. While injury concerns are legimate for some players, especially if they have a herky jerky delievery, I generally don’t downgrade them too much unless they have a history of injuries. In Lee’s case, he exceptionally clean delivery should also be reason to believe he won’t experience too many injuries in his career.

Sure he could turn into Greg Miller, there is always that possibility, but I don’t think the likelihood of a first round pick who was paid over $5M to reach the majors is low. I’d say his chances of playing in the MLB are above 50%, with the chances of him being a big league All Star obviously less, but still above 10%. That’s a higher percentage than I can say for most players

by Brandon Lennox on Aug 20, 2010 7:48 AM PDT reply actions  

Thanks Brandon

great stuff.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 20, 2010 7:54 AM PDT reply actions  

I guess because of the Gibson

connection I love the excitement that football wide outs bring to the baseball game.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 20, 2010 8:01 AM PDT reply actions  

Tolleson

Do you have any scouting reports on him? Is his performance something worthy of tracking or do you think its a fluke at this point?

by BFDC on Aug 20, 2010 8:16 AM PDT reply actions  

I guess “worthy of tracking” is a bad way to put it since its worth “tracking” everyone here, but I what I’m wondering if we should be more optimistic about him than your typical 30th round pick?

by BFDC on Aug 20, 2010 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

According to the Ogden Raptors announcer we should

This is from a previous post, and it’s the only report I have on him…

Shawn Tolleson – Tolleson is putting up some ridiculous numbers as the closer. Has he surprised a lot of people since he was 30th round pick? How hard does he throw and what is his out pitch? Is he a guy to keep out eye on or is he just a 22 year old feasting on younger hitters?

Tolleson wasn’t the closer out of camp. His out-pitch is clearly his cutter. He loves to throw it with two strikes and hitters can rarely make contact. He is definitely a guy to look out for. He is not only getting the guys out in the bottom of the order and getting the easy three-run lead saves. He is also getting the close-game, get-out-of-a-jam saves. This league is not as young as you think. There are young Latin players but still tons of guys that are 22 out of college.

However, his college stats at Baylor were only 2-7 with a 5.17 ERA in 13 starts and three relief appearances. He struck out 84 batters walked 29 in 76 2/3 innings.

by Brandon Lennox on Aug 20, 2010 8:23 AM PDT reply actions  

Thanks

It would be interesting to find out if his cutter is a newly developed pitch for him. Or he just figured out how to properly throw it or something.

by BFDC on Aug 20, 2010 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

With Alex McCree...

I think he just wanted to be able to say that he “made it.” Meaning, that he had a goal to pitch professionally. I read an article that said that he would be going to Dental School at the same time as playing so either he will unretire and play at the beginning of spring training, or that he has really retired and is satisfied with his life choice.

by JJ 24 on Aug 20, 2010 8:39 AM PDT reply actions  

Yeah

I asked the Dodgers if he had an injury, and they said no, only that they had heard he went to dental school.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 20, 2010 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Considering how long it takes to get on your feet being a dentist or a doctor, it seems like you can’t waste too much time making minor league minimums if you know it won’t work out.

by Michael White on Aug 20, 2010 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thats what I was thinking

Also, not sure if he got any kind of bonus, but it would be pretty nice to pocket the $20k or whatever it may be to help pay for school.

by BFDC on Aug 20, 2010 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s so fucking money and he doesn’t even know it!

by BFDC on Aug 20, 2010 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

For the Lakers fans

New Bill Simmons column up:

but still, [Shaq’s] going to saunter into Los Angeles wearing a Celtics uniform? The Lakers won’t be rushing to retire his number after that one, nor will their fans care. Depending on how well Boston does (and how personally Lakers fans take it), Shaq could morph into the next Clemens, aka The Superstar Who Doesn’t Really Belong To Any Team.

Do Laker fans really care about this?

by Michael White on Aug 20, 2010 8:56 AM PDT reply actions  

No, not at all

Shaq is a hood ornament now anyway.

Seeing him in a Celtic uniform does nothing to diminish his standing with the Lakers.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 20, 2010 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s what i figured.

BTW, I recommend this Simmons column. It’s a funny one.

by Michael White on Aug 20, 2010 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I imagine seeing him in a celtics jersey is about how Giants felt watching Juan Marichal pitch for the Dodgers or Willie Mays pitch for the Mets. Is this how Dodger fans felt when Cey went to the Cubs (or A’s)? I guess Cey had a couple good years with the Cubs after being dealt.

They were done anyway so good for you that you could play an extra year, ’We’ll always have Paris’ type deal?

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 20, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

hahaha

This was great.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

"The president is choking on my gas bladder; what an honor."
(\/) (°,,°) (\/)

by Ivdown on Aug 20, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

speaking retiring numbers

any chance the Dodgers retire #31 after Piazza goes into the HOF? (longshot I know, but man he was fun to watch)

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 20, 2010 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am thinking the only retired number I will see in my lifetime is Gil Hodges when the Vet committee eventually lets him in.

by delias man on Aug 20, 2010 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I refuse to think about guys like him, Clayton, etc.

by delias man on Aug 20, 2010 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

You are the only one supporting Garvey for HOF

by delias man on Aug 20, 2010 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

that's sad

10× All-Star selection (1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1984, 1985)
World Series champion (1981)
4× Gold Glove Award winner (1974, 1975, 1976, 1977)
1974 NL MVP
2× All-Star Game MVP (1974, 1978)
2× NLCS MVP (1978, 1984)

almost 2600 hits

Longest NL consecutive games streak at 1207

and (I believe) is the only man ever to record an errorless season at 1B (1984)

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 20, 2010 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I feel you

but he is just not good enough.

by delias man on Aug 20, 2010 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Almost everything you said to show he should be in the HOF are awards voted on by other people and not stats or milestones he reached.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 20, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Steve Garvey’s case has been judged by the people most likely to appreciate his talent and skill, and that case has been found wanting.

But those people have been known to miss out on stats-based arguments in favor of a player. So if such an argument exists, that could be a reason to open the door again.

However, Garvey’s stats-based argument is lacking, too.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 20, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

but you also said had his rep not been tarnished by his escapades, he likely would be in the hall.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 20, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

He was wrong

he just doesn’t stack up as a 1st baseman. Ron Cey has a better case as a 3rd baseman. HOF 1st baseman have some serious offensive numbers.

by meercatjohn on Aug 20, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

It can be a self-fulfilling cycle

outside of All-Star appearances…

Writers vote on awards during career, decide a player’s worthiness or lack thereof, then judge said player once he is done on their own judgments.

Put another way, if writers were flat wrong about a guy his whole career, and he never did well in award voting, HOF voters will in turn hold that against him in spite of actual performance. See Blyleven.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 20, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's so crazy

He’s really underrated.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

"The president is choking on my gas bladder; what an honor."
(\/) (°,,°) (\/)

by Ivdown on Aug 20, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Steve Garvey, underrated?

Steve Garvey was very good, but he might be the most overrated player this side of Lloyd Waner.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 20, 2010 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

I always forget which Waner was Big Poison and which one was Little Poison.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 20, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Paul was Big Poison

and Lloyd was Little Poison.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 20, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Big poison was the drunk one.

by regfairfield on Aug 20, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

He had a decent peak, but he’s a first baseman with a .329 on base. Even if you cut out his decline phase he’s a .304/.342/.468 career hitter, a 125 OPS+. This is a Hall of Very Good type player.

by regfairfield on Aug 20, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

His misadventures after retirement haven’t helped his reputation either.

I know it’s not supposed to matter, but it does.

People don't think it be like this, but it do.

by MartinGreen on Aug 20, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yep.

Thing is, as much as I think he’s a Hall of Very Good guy, I also think it’s those misadventures that have kept him out of the Hall of Fame. Had he kept his squeaky-clean rep, I think he’d be in, 329 OBP and all.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 20, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I rather Ron Cey go in first.

by Tripon on Aug 20, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Am I the only one on this board

That feels that Piazza is tainted because of PEDs?

(Note: I think we may have had this discussion before, or it may have been somewhere else)

by BFDC on Aug 20, 2010 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Are you serious?

by BFDC on Aug 20, 2010 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

yes

do you have something? Trust me, I watch a lot of baseball stuff, and whenever someone might have done steroids they mention it, regardless.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 20, 2010 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

He could be on the PED Mt Rushmore with McGwire, Palmeiro and Sosa.

by delias man on Aug 20, 2010 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

interesting what the internet brings you

seems it’s one of those cases of some guys being drug through the mud, and others not.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 20, 2010 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've never heard anything like for those guys

I don’t consider him a PED user.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

"The president is choking on my gas bladder; what an honor."
(\/) (°,,°) (\/)

by Ivdown on Aug 20, 2010 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

You need to take those dark ass loc’s off and look a little closer.

by delias man on Aug 20, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

There’s a good chance Piazza was on roids.

There’s also a good chance that every single player from the late 90s was on roids, so it cancels itself out.

by regfairfield on Aug 20, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Always thinking two moves ahead…

by regfairfield on Aug 20, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

That should get him banned

from TBLA should he attempt to join.

Eric, watch this shit.

by keithc13 on Aug 20, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would accept him without question. In fact, I’ll retire his number on the sidebar if he joins!

by Eric Stephen on Aug 20, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

So is that an option

to make our own retired number section on the sidebar?

by keithc13 on Aug 20, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I will just have my name with “GFY” on a plaque.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 20, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

He also has never heard

of SOSG:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 20, 2010 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

i love that site

but know I think i’m missing something.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 20, 2010 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was thinking that when I was at the game the other day. Don’t we have some outstanding rule about them having to make the hall of fame? You’re right it’ll be interesting once he makes it. I think we should do it. Pedro I wouldn’t because he really wasn’t around long enough, to our own fault and detriment.

Looking back, why the hell did we trade Pedro after only one season as a reliever in blue? God dammit I hate that trade so much more now. I was only 7 when it happened, I didn’t know!

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 20, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tommy said he was too small

and “we really needed a second baseman.”

and the only guy who’s number is retired that isn’t in the HOF is Jim Gilliam

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 20, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I remember the too small thing. Tommy also traded Paul Konerko and Dennys Reyes for Jeff Shaw, so there’s that. Jim Gilliam is a sad exception.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 20, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also remember that at the time we were getting one of the best young second basemen in baseball for a guy who was the number 10 prospect coming off a decent rookie year.

by regfairfield on Aug 20, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Decent?

We have different opinions about what “decent” implies.

by meercatjohn on Aug 20, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Okay, really good but not something that says “this guy will be the most dominant starter of all time”.

by regfairfield on Aug 20, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's an unwritten rule RE: HOF

Jim Gilliam is the only non-HOF Dodger number retired, but he happened to be a beloved figure who happened to be Walter O’Malley’s favorite. He also was a coach for several years and died suddenly before the 1978 World Series.

Also, Fernando’s #34 isn’t retired, but it basically is because it hasn’t been worn by anyone since he left.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 20, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

i remember Manny wanted to wear it when he first came here.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 20, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

we just don’t retire it because he isn’t in the hall of fame? Personally, if you aren’t going to let anyone wear it you might as well give the guy the recognition as well. If no one can wear the number, it’s a retired number. Just because you don’t call it that doesn’t mean it’s not what it is. All you’ve done is retire a number without giving Fernando any public credit.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 20, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

heh

I’ve never liked the guy. I’m probably on an island with that.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 20, 2010 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

This killed me about Jennifer Aniston's movie career
“Marley & Me” (2008): Her biggest triumph. Although they could have made this movie with Betty White playing Luke Wilson’s wife and it still would have made $100 million.

by Julio Nievas on Aug 20, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

About Padilla's injury

Kuroda should hook him up with his acupunture specialist. Kuroda said it was painful, but I’ll bet it’s not “bullet through the leg” painful.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 20, 2010 8:59 AM PDT reply actions  

Painfull?

The only pain I had when I did acupuncture was the lack of it after I received the treatment. Nothing quite like the thrill of getting stuck with needles.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 20, 2010 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I love SSS

Lilly 2010 Dodgers ERA+302

by delias man on Aug 20, 2010 9:28 AM PDT reply actions  

Retire that man’s number.

by Michael White on Aug 20, 2010 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

He is going to be our pitching

Marlon Anderson when it comes to SSS record setting performances. I just hope he does not become a footnote like Doyle Alexander and John Smoltz. Dolye went 9 – 0 for the Tigers after this trade

August 12, 1987: Traded by the Atlanta Braves to the Detroit Tigers for John Smoltz.
. But John Smotlz is all anyone talks about.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 20, 2010 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Who's the John Smoltz of this trade?

Brett Wallach? Smoltz was already pitching in MLB at Wallach’s age.

And Lilly (career 109 ERA+) is hardly comparable to Anderson (career 83 OPS+).

by Sean P. on Aug 20, 2010 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

laughing at myself

Just finished the Reds Preview and had to many numbers floating in my brain.

Anyway McDonald was the man being equated with Lilly so I totally blew the comparison. All I could think was how good Lilly was doing, and how good McDonald was doing. One guy was old, one guy was young, but yet they weren’t traded for each other, just traded on the same day.

Sorry about that.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 20, 2010 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it's very Colletti

that he made one of the arguably worst trades of his career on the same day that he made one of his best

by Sean P. on Aug 20, 2010 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Trading for Ted Lilly was one of his best?

No way.

by Michael White on Aug 20, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tend to agree with this. It doesn’t come close to the Ethier or Manny trades, but it also wasn’t horrible like Santana.

I would put it in the middle of Colletti’s deals.

by silverwidow on Aug 20, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Its gotta be closer to the top of his deals though, just because he’s made so many worse.

The Dotel trade is the worst IMO.

by BFDC on Aug 20, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

considering

2 out of the 3 players we gave up became mlb all stars lol.

by npurcell on Aug 20, 2010 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good point

That one actually slipped my mind. So its one of those two.

by BFDC on Aug 20, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

It was an awful trade

but Navarro is back in AAA after being the briefest of all-stars.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 20, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

that's true

but point still stands though. oh and danys baez fucking sucks.

by npurcell on Aug 20, 2010 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey we traded Navarro for Mark Hendrickson.

by regfairfield on Aug 20, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

oh crap forgot

that was the year of the tampa trades…where we took all their trash! hendrickson, baez, lugo..

jesus christ.

by npurcell on Aug 20, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

are you talking trades?

or just deals? Seems he’s had more success with trades than FA signings.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 20, 2010 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I still say the Lilly trade was a bad trade. At the time, I viewed the Dodgers as out of it so Lilly is inconsequential. They won’t offer arbitration, so it’s a rental when playing out the string. It then became a swap of Theriot for DeWitt, which I didn’t like at all.

At the time, I could see not “selling”, but “buying” was stupid.

by Michael White on Aug 20, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree

but its still not as bad as several others.

by BFDC on Aug 20, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Disagree

when looking at a trade you have to look at value exchanged

Colletti got a Type A pitcher and a cheap, mediocre 2nd baseman for 2 fringe pitching prospects and a cheaper, mediocre 2nd baseman

by Sean P. on Aug 20, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

the type A only applies

if the Dodgers plan on offering arb.

i’ll cross my fingers that they will but who knows.

by npurcell on Aug 20, 2010 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, if the Dodgers were able to trade Chris Withrow for Cliff Lee right now would it be a good trade?

Considering that Lilly will come and go with no impact, all you are left with is the exchange of Theriot for DeWitt.

by Michael White on Aug 20, 2010 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, if the Dodgers were able to trade Chris Withrow for Cliff Lee right now would it be a good trade?

Yes, because of the GUARANTEED draft picks.

by silverwidow on Aug 20, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Really, you’d trade Chris Withrow for 2 draft picks?

by Michael White on Aug 20, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Withrow’s star is already fading.

by delias man on Aug 20, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Even so, I’d still roll the dice on Withrow. He’s too young to scrap altogether.

by Michael White on Aug 20, 2010 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, because there’s a chance we could get Trevor Bauer, who has starter worthy stuff.

Withrow might end up a reliever.

by silverwidow on Aug 20, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

How big of a chance?

I think he could fall for us at No. 15, but he has great stuff and it would be hard for teams to pass on him.

by Julio Nievas on Aug 20, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bauer might end up a reliever. Five months ago, you were talking how the Dodgers would wait to call Withrow up until June this year, to avoid Super Two status.

Bauer carries just as much risk, if not more, than Withrow, with none of the professional experience.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 20, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Five months ago, this site rated Withrow the #1 prospect in the system. It’s easy to second guess when you have hindsight to do so.

I love Bauer’s array of pitches. As for the experience factor, playing in a big time program and in the College World Series can’t hurt.

by silverwidow on Aug 20, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s also easy to second guess ridiculous things as they are being said, which I did at the time.

You only like Bauer now because he is new and shiny.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 20, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s also easy to second guess ridiculous things as they are being said, which I did at the time.

Fair enough. I said you were right about Withrow a hell of a long time ago.

You only like Bauer now because he is new and shiny.

Wrong.

by silverwidow on Aug 20, 2010 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

So are you saying

People would talk more about Octavio Dotel if the Dodgers had a chance in hell of winning the World Series?

by BFDC on Aug 20, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Other way around

People are ONLY talking about Dotel because the Dodgers don’t stand a chance.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 20, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Looks like we drafted a few

left handed hitting outfielders.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 20, 2010 9:37 AM PDT reply actions  

indeed we did!

landry, baldwin (or is he switch), pederson and schebler! cool stuff.

So stoked for Lee. Especially after watching that dodgers war room video!

by npurcell on Aug 20, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

that was pretty cool

Logan White was stoked that Lee fell to them. Wonder if he saw Gammons practically spitting with rage after they drafted him.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 20, 2010 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like to think

he was thinking, “Suck it Gammons” as Lee inked his name.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 20, 2010 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Has Gammons said anything about their signing Lee

or is he like John Clayton and will never admit he was wrong about anything…?

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by underdog on Aug 20, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

On the draft that night he was spitting he was so mad they drafted him.

by delias man on Aug 20, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

maybe

the Dodgers scooped him from the Red Sox.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 20, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah so I've heard. I missed that. Was just wondering

if he’s followed up with an apology for being an idiot. No, I’m guessing not.

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by underdog on Aug 20, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why was Gammons mad?

by MR.F. on Aug 20, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

He basically said the Dodgers are poor and can’t sign him right after we picked Lee.

by Julio Nievas on Aug 20, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

So who would like to be designated

“Ask Peter Gammons if he still feels Dodgers punted the Zach Lee pick” question on Twitter?

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by underdog on Aug 20, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well for one we're not national TV media

and for 2 even those who were wrong didn’t get redfaced and have spittle coming out of their mouths about it. Well maybe you did, I didn’t see it. ;-)

And I personally believe I was on record as saying I was willing to take Logan White’s word for it that they did not punt that pick, that they were going to at least try sign him.

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by underdog on Aug 20, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

The video

was a testament to the fact the Dodgers really had zeroed in on him. I was surprised they were not talking numbers when they picked him. I would think $ numbers would have been flying fast and furious but given they knew MLB was filming it makes sense they kept that discussion to a minimum.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 20, 2010 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

when Logan

kept saying “thank you” to Mccourt..I think that really shows that Frank gave the go ahead on doing this, knowing it would cost a pretty penny for him.

by npurcell on Aug 20, 2010 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

we’ll have to see how it effects future draft budgets before we know how much it really cost him.

I took it as him thanking Frank for being willing to take the heat for drafting a guy everyone saw as unsignable.

by pdotmac1 on Aug 20, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

are they're any

good catchers in next year’s draft?

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 20, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

you mean

are there any good positional prospects that the dodgers can move to catcher in next year’s draft? :)

by npurcell on Aug 20, 2010 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not if we keep drafting left-handed outfielders.

People don't think it be like this, but it do.

by MartinGreen on Aug 20, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Great stuff man

Enjoyed reading your info.

Dodgerblue8188

by Dodgerblue8188 on Aug 20, 2010 9:57 AM PDT reply actions  

LOL!!!
What would the Dodgers expect in return?
A lot. Considering Ramirez will be a Type A free agent who will probably get at least a two-year deal somewhere if he decides to play next season, the Dodgers would likely offer him arbitration (unless the risk of him accepting the offer is one the club is simply unwilling to take) and recoup a supplemental first-round pick plus either a first- or second-round pick if he were to sign elsewhere. They’ll expect a trade offer that beats the promise of two first-round picks, and won’t trade him if they can’t get it.

Would you trade Engel Beltre and Robbie Erlin for Ramirez? What about Tanner Scheppers and Miguel Velazquez? It might take more, but if it didn’t, would that deal make you squirm — even knowing you’d be the team to get the two 2011 compensatory picks back if you didn’t re-sign Ramirez yourself?

GIVE ME SCHEPPER AND YOU CAN TAKE MANNY.

by npurcell on Aug 20, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dodgers CAN’T offer arbitration. And they wouldn’t anyway.

by silverwidow on Aug 20, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Newburg

is considered a good writer so I was surprised he didn’t know about the fact we can’t offer Manny arb or that even if we could we wouldn’t. He seems to be greatly over valuing Manny. I’d be happy to simply get something as irrelevant as Max Ramirez back. I never considered the Rangers because of Vlady.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 20, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is the fact that LAD can’t offer documented? I thought that sort of a thing was more of a hand-shake agreement, like with possibly Hudson last year.

by Michael White on Aug 20, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Its in the contract.

by Tripon on Aug 20, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think it is

I can’t remember seeing it anywhere

by Eric Stephen on Aug 20, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

question

if they can offer arbitration..is it based off his just 2010 salary or the whole thing with the deffered payment?

cause the potential of Manny accepting and coming back for say 7 mill, is vastly different then 20 mil.

by npurcell on Aug 20, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's the whole thing

but the 20% cut rule only applies to pre-FA arb contracts.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 20, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

So the Dodgers can tender Sherrill at 3.6MM? I hope they don’t consider that.

by silverwidow on Aug 20, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

How else does Boras and Manny make sure it doesn’t happen. Its not as if it can’t be written in the contract.

by Tripon on Aug 20, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

No, I’m saying there is no agreement at all, to not offer arbitration.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 20, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

or, if there is, I have seen no proof of it

by Eric Stephen on Aug 20, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh,

I thought you mentioned the other day there was and then you followed that by saying we never would. I guess I misread or misremembered it.

by meercatjohn on Aug 20, 2010 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Great FanPost Read

http://www.truebluela.com/2010/8/19/1632351/matt-kemp-same-player-as-he-was

Lot of effort by NoFatMike.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 20, 2010 10:05 AM PDT reply actions  

When Braves’ Derrek Lee showed up at Wrigley today, went to Cubs player lot to park & attendant told him he couldn’t part there anymore. It was a practical joke. The guy kept a straight face until Lee said, “Damn. Just tell him [the guy’s boss] I’m parking here.”

http://twitter.com/ajcbraves

Derrek Lee bats cleanup against his former team today at Wrigley.

by Alex41592 on Aug 20, 2010 10:10 AM PDT reply actions  

#mlb #Dodgers The assumption is that Don Mattingly is heir apparent to replace Joe Torre,but AAA manager Tim Wallach is looming as favorite about 13 hours ago via web Retweeted by 4 people

BNightengale
Bob Nightengale

by Tripon on Aug 20, 2010 10:22 AM PDT reply actions  

cool stuff

his son Matt is our AA catcher and batting 314/400/457 !!!!!

by npurcell on Aug 20, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

And we traded his other son :-( But anyway I am hopeful

that Nightengale is right. At this point he’s my top pick. Will be a very interesting off season…

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by underdog on Aug 20, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

They just can not go to Mattingly with no experience. Even Ned knows that. They just told Torre whatever he wanted to hear to get him over here.

by delias man on Aug 20, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Great stuff Brandon

really good overview of these guys and has me excited again. I really think this is the Dodgers’ best draft in past 4-5 years. Potentially, that is, of course. I really am liking Lemmerman too and curious to see how Kirkland develops. All in all it feels like a weakened system suddenly got better again.

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by underdog on Aug 20, 2010 10:24 AM PDT reply actions  

Right now I'm very partial to the 2008 draft

http://www.baseball-reference.com/draft/?query_type=franch_year&team_ID=LAD&year_ID=2008&draft_type=junreg&
1st Martin
2nd – Lindblom ML relief pitcher
3 – Gordon – ML SS
4 – Russell – best power in system, big gamble still might pay off
6 – Delmonico – still could be our future catcher
7 – Cole St. Clair – ML Relief pitcher
11 – Nate Eovaldi – Big arm, plenty of upside
18 – Allen Webster – might be the best pitcher in the system
25 – Jerry Sands – might be the best hitter in the system
31 – Matt Magill – up and coming

I’ve never seen so many late picks with as much upside potential as Eovaldi/Webster/ Sands/MaGill. While I have my reservations abouts Gordon he still shot up the prospect rankings like a number one pick. Martin has been awful but as Nate says he still has the arm, youth, and potential to live up to his number on pick.

by meercatjohn on Aug 20, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

It will be very interesting to see how BA ranks Sands before next season

It seems clear he is the best hitter in our system right now, but I bet BA will dog him because he was such a late pick.

by BFDC on Aug 20, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like the bottom of that draft, or those rankings more than the top right now

Guys I loved at the time, like Lindblom and even Russell, are worrying or disappointing me. And Gordon is overrated but obviously still has high ceiling. Anyway, that could indeed still end up being a choice draft, still plenty of time before it’s fairly evaluated. (While this draft is of course way too early to really rationally and fairly evaluate.) Just going on a hunch. But it does also show you that often the real gems of a draft come in the later rounds…

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by underdog on Aug 20, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

But it does also show you that often the real gems of a draft come in the later rounds…

That is why I voted Logan White for President.

by BFDC on Aug 20, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Then you'd be ignoring

how crappy he did in the 2006/2007 drafts other then Kershaw who landed in his lap.

by meercatjohn on Aug 20, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

But the 2004/2005 draft/signees is a stronger class that we previously believed as well. Its not Logan White’s fault that draft became for the most part trade fodder.

by Tripon on Aug 20, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

DeWitt was the best player out of that draft if you don’t count David Price. Right now it looks like that or 2007 was White’s worst draft.

by regfairfield on Aug 20, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

2004 also had Carlos Santana signing up.

That alone bumps it above 2007.

by Tripon on Aug 20, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

International FA, I wouldn’t count it.

by regfairfield on Aug 20, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

2007 wasn't all that bad

Withrow & Lambo are legit talent that haven’t put it all together
Watt is having a comparable year to our Loons SPs albeit for a different club
Gallagher showed some early promise that he could still live up to
Justin Miller has a decent shot at being a MLB RP
Danny Danielson dominated AZL last year and was a darkhorse prospect before he ‘retired’
Jamie Pedroza’s been good in AA all year, so you can’t count him out
Matt Wallach is super fringy,but he’s always had a little pop in his bat and done really well in AA in a SSS

by Sean P. on Aug 20, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

But

good chance that only the number one pick makes it. I stand by my comment this came from that those high round picks in the 2008 draft turning into something is rare. The majority of major league talent comes from the first few rounds of the draft. The nuggets are cool but rare.

by meercatjohn on Aug 20, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not disagreeing with that

Everyone I mentioned bar Matt Wallach was taken in the first 9 rounds.

by Sean P. on Aug 20, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I should've just phrased it as

“there are often gems that come from the late rounds” - not to make it sound like most of the best players come from the late rounds which was definitely not my intention. The other is harder to argue with ;)

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by underdog on Aug 20, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

(stupid strikethru accidents)

..not to make it sound like most of the best players come from the late rounds which was definitely not my intention. The other is harder to argue with ;)

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by underdog on Aug 20, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not often

this is unusual which is what makes it so cool. There is a reason why Kershaw is the only player in the major leagues from our 2006 draft and why Withrow might be the only major leaguer from the 2007 draft.

by meercatjohn on Aug 20, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Brandon, great story

Derek Cone sounds like a sleeper to me.

I wonder how fast he can pitch.

by Julio Nievas on Aug 20, 2010 10:26 AM PDT reply actions  

gotta keep that time of game down somehow. I vote for throw harder.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 20, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Noel Cuevas

his scouting report at draft time is almost the same as jonathon garcias scouting report.!!!

only difference is the arm… they both were batting practice players with raw power

by matthewmafa on Aug 20, 2010 10:36 AM PDT reply actions  

OT: I am eating 5 guys for the first time right now

Not exactly what BFDC wants to be remembered for:)

by meercatjohn on Aug 20, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm so glad I'm not the only one

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 20, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

OT: Worst "chick flick"

OK, after reading Simmon’s story AND even watching it yesterday, the movie “He’s just not that into you” has got be the worst movie to watch with your girlfriend/wife.

by Julio Nievas on Aug 20, 2010 11:04 AM PDT reply actions  

The Devil Wears Prada

by keithc13 on Aug 20, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Really

I could watch the star of that anytime.

by meercatjohn on Aug 20, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

She’s like a younger, more beautiful Julia Roberts

by Eric Stephen on Aug 20, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not a fan of Julia

but love Anne Hathaway. Plus she is totally clueless about making life choices so I’ve got a shot.

by meercatjohn on Aug 20, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

She’s got the most jacked legs I’ve seen on a female star.

Her opening scene in Valentines Day is just her leg and Topher Grace and my first thought was “welp, looks like Topher’s gay in this movie”.

Not saying that this knocks her down any pegs though.

by regfairfield on Aug 20, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

That movie was bad. Except for one or two of the stories in the movie I thought were good, but overall… bad.

by Julio Nievas on Aug 20, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Eh, I thought it was what I thought it was going to be. A totally predictable romantic comedy with a good cast.

It’s like complaining about The Expendables.

by regfairfield on Aug 20, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

WOW

What’s today’s lottery numbers?

by regfairfield on Aug 20, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Haha

Statham lost me after I watched the Transporter.

The scene where he flips the gun off the table, beats up three guys in the process while the gun is still in the air, and catches the gun behind his back to shoot down a guy was just too much.

by Julio Nievas on Aug 20, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

I see you’ve never played Shooty Punchy before

by Eric Stephen on Aug 20, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

You call that a knoife? This is a knoife

That’s a spoon…

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

"The president is choking on my gas bladder; what an honor."
(\/) (°,,°) (\/)

by Ivdown on Aug 20, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Underrated Statham:

The Bank Job.

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by underdog on Aug 20, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Really enjoyed that flick.

by Michael White on Aug 20, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

For some reason I read that as “The Italian Job,” which I loved.

I have not seen The Bank Job, but I should this offseason.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 20, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I read hat as well, too.

And that movie, The Italian Job, was awesome

by Julio Nievas on Aug 20, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

You should

it’s a really solid heist flick

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by underdog on Aug 20, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah speaking of terrible, Valentine's Day

Had an appealing cast but was so badly written and lazy. Made me angry. Glad it was a screener DVD that I could turn off.

I want to go farther back than you guys for “great chick flick” — Tracy and Hepburn! Bogie and Bacall! Grant and Russell!

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by underdog on Aug 20, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

I dont' 'consider those chick flicks

and they would kick ass over most of todays “dialogue” movies.

by meercatjohn on Aug 20, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I saw her at a bank in Westchester weeks ago. I could not figure out why someone else would not do her banking for her. She was constantly looking around to see if people recognized her. I think nobody else did, and I pretended I did not.

by delias man on Aug 20, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't see that movie BTW

but probably should since both young female leads are quite fetching.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 20, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

It wasn’t good, but it wasn’t “worst chick flick of all time” bad

by Michael White on Aug 20, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

She was gorgeous in Get Smart

Absolutely beautiful.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

"The president is choking on my gas bladder; what an honor."
(\/) (°,,°) (\/)

by Ivdown on Aug 20, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I actually kind of liked that, watched it with my g/f

At least there were good performances in it and some relatable things (though for me the fashion stuff made me feel like an alien)

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by underdog on Aug 20, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

you can see her boobies

in the movie with joseph gordon hewitt “HAVOC”

by npurcell on Aug 20, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

she's very sexual in it.

I think Hathaway is gorgeous…lol all her movies that are available streaming are in my queue on netflx.

by npurcell on Aug 20, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Too many candidates over the past few years

Sex and the City 2? Didn’t see it but heard it was torture. Or that one with Aniston and Gerard Butler, saw some clips from it last year and wanted to claw my eyes out.

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by underdog on Aug 20, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yea

any Sex and the City, my payback for her sitting through Dodger baseball.

And any Entertainment Tonight crap. That is the shit I hate.

by meercatjohn on Aug 20, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn’t hate the show, but the movie was dreadful. My wife disagreed so I didn’t get dragged to the 2nd one.

by Michael White on Aug 20, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

I watched the show with

my wife. I agree that the show was okay to good.

The 1st movie was horrible, haven’t been forced into the second one.

by keithc13 on Aug 20, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I never laughed once watching it

Though it obviously wasn’t aimed at my demographic

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 20, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Win

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by nolander on Aug 20, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hilarity ensues

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by underdog on Aug 20, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

never saw the movie

but damn she looks hot right there.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 20, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Watching the scenes I saw you'd be pretty quickly turned off

from all that hotness.

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by underdog on Aug 20, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

probably

had no desire to see it. just commenting on the pic

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 20, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of her though I've actually heard some good things about

The Switch, with Jason Bateman, which is opening. Better than her other recent ones at least.

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by underdog on Aug 20, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am now obsessed with this show. I wish I had watched when it was brand new, after season 1 Maebe became seriously cute.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

"The president is choking on my gas bladder; what an honor."
(\/) (°,,°) (\/)

by Ivdown on Aug 20, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ha

I watched the whole thing last year in about two weeks. We couldn’t understand why we didn’t get into it when it was on.

by meercatjohn on Aug 20, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fox

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by nolander on Aug 20, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Portia De Rossi is amazing in all scenes of that show.

by Julio Nievas on Aug 20, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm a big Jason Bateman fan

I’ve watched all 3 seasons of Arrested Development in the last 2 weeks, and I started over with season one and will go through again because it was so great.

I was debating watching The Switch online just to see if it’s any good.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

"The president is choking on my gas bladder; what an honor."
(\/) (°,,°) (\/)

by Ivdown on Aug 20, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

There's a new comedy coming out on Fox soon

With Kerri Russell and Gob.. er, I mean Will Arnett. It’s creator is Hurwitz (like AD) so I hope it succeeds.

Tobias is going to be in it too

by Julio Nievas on Aug 20, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

New In Town

I got into a fight with the ex a long time ago when she wanted to watch that and I didn’t. It ended up being abysmal.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

"The president is choking on my gas bladder; what an honor."
(\/) (°,,°) (\/)

by Ivdown on Aug 20, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

That atrocity.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

"The president is choking on my gas bladder; what an honor."
(\/) (°,,°) (\/)

by Ivdown on Aug 20, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Definitely seen worse than “He’s just not that into you.”

The notebook was definitely worse. I wanted to kill myself.

by Michael White on Aug 20, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kudos to my wife on that one

we watched the first 20 minutes at home, she turned it off.

by meercatjohn on Aug 20, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hah hah

Or Gaspar Noe’s Irreversible
Great date movie, look it up….

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by underdog on Aug 20, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Let's be Proactive

What are some great (non-porn) movies to get you and your other in the mood?

by robotmadeofnails on Aug 20, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

You mean Shooter?

Or is there a movie actually called Sniper.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

"The president is choking on my gas bladder; what an honor."
(\/) (°,,°) (\/)

by Ivdown on Aug 20, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tom Berenger

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by nolander on Aug 20, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

before his time

before mine too, i’ve never seen it.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 20, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Before mine

I just keep seeing it on Netflix

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by nolander on Aug 20, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

you are so fucking young!

by delias man on Aug 20, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

don't hate

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by nolander on Aug 20, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rent

hands down. But it probably is more Fag Flick then Chick Flick.

by delias man on Aug 20, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Liked Rent

but the I like scantily clad dancing females probably more then most here.

by meercatjohn on Aug 20, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

You almost have to ask the "best chick flick ever"

Because most likely, we’re going to hate almost the entire genre.

I’ll go with 10 Things I Hate About You which might be in the teenie bopper category anyway.

by Michael White on Aug 20, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

When Harry Met Sally(if it counts)?
Love Actually?

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by nolander on Aug 20, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good choice on When Harry Met Sally.

I’d count it.

I fell asleep during Love Actually.

by Michael White on Aug 20, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I love When Harry Met Sally

and I’m just not sure its chick flick enough to be in this convo.

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by nolander on Aug 20, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

If we’re counting Wedding Singer (and we should) I’d say WHMS counts.

by Michael White on Aug 20, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought the Wedding Singer was only in the convo

to prove that Barrymore hasn’t ruined every movie she was in.

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by nolander on Aug 20, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d say Wedding singer counts. Girl choose true love with the artist over the rich scumbag.

If Adam Sandler wasn’t the lead, it woudl be a no-doubter.

by Michael White on Aug 20, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thats true

its a hybrid. I have always looked at it as simply an Adam Sandler movie, and you have opened my eyes.

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by nolander on Aug 20, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

that's the only Sandler movie

my mom likes. well, I think she liked Spanglish too.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 20, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Poor Sandler is getting

to the point his movies aren’t worth wasting time on

by keithc13 on Aug 20, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bizarrely my wife

loves Adam Sandler movies, including the stupidest of the stupidest.

by meercatjohn on Aug 20, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t mess with the Zohan?

Worth putting in my netflix queue?

by Michael White on Aug 20, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

15 funny minutes

Total. So if that sounds worth it… (I definitely laughed a few times but…)

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by underdog on Aug 20, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would go with a lot of movies over that

But Zohan>Funny People

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

"The president is choking on my gas bladder; what an honor."
(\/) (°,,°) (\/)

by Ivdown on Aug 20, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Great movie

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

"The president is choking on my gas bladder; what an honor."
(\/) (°,,°) (\/)

by Ivdown on Aug 20, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Would The Breakfast Club count as a chick flick? Or is that just a teen movie? Either way I like it.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

"The president is choking on my gas bladder; what an honor."
(\/) (°,,°) (\/)

by Ivdown on Aug 20, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Confused Teen movie

for people who will end up spending to much time on a blog later in life.

by meercatjohn on Aug 20, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Even The Wedding Singer?

by Eric Stephen on Aug 20, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I always thought it was the

“Drew Barrymore is annoying” taint.

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by nolander on Aug 20, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lets see if we can go 2 for 2

Cameron Diaz?

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by nolander on Aug 20, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Loved the Mask

haven’t liked her much since then

by meercatjohn on Aug 20, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I loved the mask

until I tried to rewatch it recently, it really didn’t seem to hold up, didn’t get very far.

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by nolander on Aug 20, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

She is in The Holiday

and it is fuckin horrible!

And it’s a chick flick.

I wanna change my pick to The Holiday!

by keithc13 on Aug 20, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I liked the Holliday.

But that story was built on the relationship between Winslett and the old guy. Everything else was garbage.

by Michael White on Aug 20, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Most of her movies Im not a fan of

but I really liked There’s something about Mary

by keithc13 on Aug 20, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

You guys shouldn't see Knight and Day then

Her character gets increasingly annoying and stupid, she grates. Tom Cruise actually comes off much better. Her role is the kind that Goldie Hawn would’ve played like 20+ years ago. But better.

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by underdog on Aug 20, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

i've heard her compared to Goldie Hawn

in a “not as good as buy same type” kind of way.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 20, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Goldie was way overrated

as is her daughter. Though her daughter is good looking.

by meercatjohn on Aug 20, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yah, though I liked Goldie in 2 Chevy Chase

movies… especially Foul Play. And younger in Sugarland Express and Shampoo. But otherwise, yeah, meh, got more irritating as she went along. Her daughter is very… cute. That’s about it.

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by underdog on Aug 20, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Almost Famous is one of my favorite movies

The part where they are singing Tiny Dancer on the bus is classic.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

"The president is choking on my gas bladder; what an honor."
(\/) (°,,°) (\/)

by Ivdown on Aug 20, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

There are many great scenes in that movie.

by Julio Nievas on Aug 20, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Word

my favorite movie of the 2000s

by Sean P. on Aug 20, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Goldie had the airhead persona working for a while. Kinda like the one that Teri Garr used.

People don't think it be like this, but it do.

by MartinGreen on Aug 20, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yah, though Garr's a much better actress imho

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by underdog on Aug 20, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Sweetest Thing wasn't completely terrible

Had some funny moments.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

"The president is choking on my gas bladder; what an honor."
(\/) (°,,°) (\/)

by Ivdown on Aug 20, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like Drew

except as an Angel, and as Eric noted she was in the awesome Wedding Singer

by meercatjohn on Aug 20, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Wedding Singer!

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 20, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Steel Magnolias. Wake me up when it’s over.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 20, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Heh

I thought that one wasn’t that bad. Maybe I was distracted by the eye candy.

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by nolander on Aug 20, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

It made my girlfriend turn on me by the end of the movie for a few minutes.

by Julio Nievas on Aug 20, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hah what?

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by nolander on Aug 20, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Finally

Unsubscribed to the MLB email list. It took the “Where will the Captain throw the first pitch” email to make me do it.

by robotmadeofnails on Aug 20, 2010 11:09 AM PDT reply actions  

Ha!

He already made it to Dodger Stadium BTW

by Eric Stephen on Aug 20, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think it was the Saturday of the Cubs series, just before the ASB

by Eric Stephen on Aug 20, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Without Maddz to help Josie

the extra Y chromosome is running wild today.

by meercatjohn on Aug 20, 2010 11:19 AM PDT reply actions  

heh, funny

though neither of them strike me as chick flick watchers.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 20, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just a

FYI before everyone gets heavily invested in this thread, a new one will be springing up at 12:00 so all your comments will become historical fodder never to be seen or read again.

by meercatjohn on Aug 20, 2010 11:28 AM PDT reply actions  

Bastard!

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

"The president is choking on my gas bladder; what an honor."
(\/) (°,,°) (\/)

by Ivdown on Aug 20, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hot. Looked great as a brunette in Wedding Crashers.

by Michael White on Aug 20, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

If I was into white girls I would stalk her.

by delias man on Aug 20, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mean Girls

counts as chick flick? Tween Chick Flick? I’ll watch that one any day.

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by nolander on Aug 20, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thought about. Considered it teenie bopper.

I dug it too. Lohan was at her peak.

by Michael White on Aug 20, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

She has not peaked yet. Some producer is going to take a huge gamble on her in a couple years and its going to pay off.

by delias man on Aug 20, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

i feel bad for these kids

I think they need to hire someone to just smack them upside the head before doing something stupid. I mean it’s not like their parents are gonna.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 20, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

In Lohan's case

I think her parents smacked her upside the head anytime she tried to do anything smart.

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by nolander on Aug 20, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Mean Girls is a good movie

I first watched it because of all the hotness involved, then I actually liked it.
Lacey Chabert is soooooo hot.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

"The president is choking on my gas bladder; what an honor."
(\/) (°,,°) (\/)

by Ivdown on Aug 20, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

which one was that?

the one who told weather with her boobs?

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 20, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Me too. She's adorbs.

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by underdog on Aug 20, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Amy Adams as Amelia Earhart was awesome in NaTM2

by Eric Stephen on Aug 20, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oops
Tyson Gillies, one of three prospects acquired from the Phillies in the Cliff Lee trade last offseason, was arrested in Clearwater early this morning and charged with felony cocaine possession, the Pinellas County Sheriff Department confirmed. Bond was posted and he was released.

  Assistant general manager, player development and scouting Chuck LaMar read a statement on the team’s behalf.

  "We are aware that Tyson Gillies was arrested today on a drug possession charge arising out of out of an incident that is alleged to have occurred this past June," he said. "Because this is an open criminal case, we will not comment further at this time."

  According to the St. Petersburg Times, which first reported the story, the 21-year-old outfielder was arrested at 1:10 a.m. and released at 10:52 p..m. on $2,000 bond.

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20100820_Phillies_prospect_arrested_in_cocaine_bust.html

by Tripon on Aug 20, 2010 11:30 AM PDT reply actions  

rec'd

and I add FUCK CARLOS RUIZ

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 20, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agree with this

but shouldn’ t that read “acquired by the Phillies”?

by meercatjohn on Aug 20, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was just about to post that, too

Confused me. CopyEditFail.

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by underdog on Aug 20, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s had a completely craptastic season anyways.

by BFDC on Aug 20, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

So what’s the record for most felons a guy was traded for in a year?

by regfairfield on Aug 20, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Does Andrew Brown count, twice? :)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 20, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

We deserve better

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by nolander on Aug 20, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not sure how the adding up the bonuses works

But should all of Lee’s bonus count towards 2010 since its spread over 5 years? If you spread it out, our spending for this year is only around $3.2 MM. Or do you always count whatever year the bonus was originally derived from?

by BFDC on Aug 20, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would like to know this, as well

by pdotmac1 on Aug 20, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

One of the Reds writers I follow on Twitter is John Fay, and like many beat writers he will answer questions via Twitter. Today, someone asked him when the last time the Reds swept an NL West opponent on the road, and Fay said “yesterday.”

That cracked me up for some reason. But I suppose it could come off as a little Keithlawian.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 20, 2010 11:40 AM PDT reply actions  

just as part of the movie discussion

do we consider romantic comedies and chick flicks interchangeable. Because I can think of a few of those I’ve seen that I enjoyed, but no real “chick flicks”

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 20, 2010 11:41 AM PDT reply actions  

We can evaluate it on a case by case basis.

by Michael White on Aug 20, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

why are you the authority on this?

by delias man on Aug 20, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I said we, it wasn’t meant as the royal we.

by Michael White on Aug 20, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

ok

Case 1: Chasing Amy

Case 2: Forgetting Sarah Marshall

Chick flick? and did you enjoy it?

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 20, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

how do you guys have time to watch every game and watch movies?

by delias man on Aug 20, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

it's not easy

there’s a movie I haven’t watched yet, that utterly shocks people when I admit it. so I will not do so here.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 20, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Avatar? I haven’t watched that one yet, but I just got it from Netflix.

by OB12 on Aug 20, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

give it up

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by nolander on Aug 20, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve never seen Top Gun.

Good luck topping that one.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 20, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

shit

they’re making me admit it.

You’d think an internet blog would allow you some secrecy

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 20, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

...

You… There are no words there

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by nolander on Aug 20, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think either were chick flicks, but rather comedies.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 20, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

agreed

but I was curious what others thought. I enjoyed both of them. Russell Brand was hilarious in Sarah Marshall.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 20, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mila Kunis is awesome. Especially in that movie.

by Julio Nievas on Aug 20, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

the best use of that line

was when she was the worm in “Something Something Something Dark Side.”

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 20, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pet peeve of mine

Russell Brand played the same character — Aldous Snow — in both FSM and Get Him To The Greek.

Which is fine, on it’s face, but then Jonah Hill was also in both movies and played two different characters. I demand continuity in my movie crossover universes!

by Eric Stephen on Aug 20, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

agreed

and was that movie good? Get him to the Greek i mean.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 20, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

It delivered exactly what it promised

by Eric Stephen on Aug 20, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

thanks for the spoiler

now I know he get’s him to the Greek.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 20, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

SPOILER

alchohol is involved

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by nolander on Aug 20, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

GASP!!!

surely not illegal drugs though?

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 20, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rule #1: Is Jonah Hill in it? Then it’s not a chick flick.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 20, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Worst character in that film. Useless

by Michael White on Aug 20, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

So you’re saying I shouldn’t take the GF to see Moneyball?

by regfairfield on Aug 20, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Plenty of time to make out in that movie.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 20, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Case 1 is a chick flick, and it was the worst of those movies.

Case 2 was very enjoyable but not a chick flick.

by Michael White on Aug 20, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not sure Sarah Marshall is a "chick flick" per se but it's a good date movie

Though I enjoyed it more than my g/f did. It has that Apatow influence that I like.
Meanwhile their follow up Get Him to the Greek was most decidedly a Guy Flick, but I found it uproarious.

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by underdog on Aug 20, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Forgetting Sarah Marshall

to me falls under the comedy category, not even romantic comedy.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

"The president is choking on my gas bladder; what an honor."
(\/) (°,,°) (\/)

by Ivdown on Aug 20, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Chick Flick – Any movie that you wouldn’t admit that you liked while you’re drinking on the couch with your buddies.

by regfairfield on Aug 20, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

you said 12

WE THOUGHT WE HAD MORE TIME!!!!!!!!

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 20, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Man on Fire

“last wish please….”

Denzel: “Last Wish? I wish….you had….more time……”

(walks away while guy dies in explosion.)

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 20, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

That movie was way more awesome

then I had expected

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 20, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

“Death is his canvas, and he’s painting his masterpiece!”

by Eric Stephen on Aug 20, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Phil as a doctor

OK, I’m going to give you this shot on the count of three…

One [SHOT, really hard!]

by Eric Stephen on Aug 20, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ha

Favorite Doctor – the dude from 30 Rock, he kills me

by meercatjohn on Aug 20, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not leaving

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 20, 2010 11:56 AM PDT reply actions  

You will when I close the comments

I have power and I’m not afraid to use them to further my own ends.

by meercatjohn on Aug 20, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

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2012 Dodgers Payroll

Italics denote estimates
Pos No Player 2012 Salary
C 17 Ellis $500,000 team control
1B 7 Loney $6,375,000
2B 14 Ellis $2,500,000
3B 5 Uribe $8,000,000
SS 9 Gordon $485,000 team control
LF 21 Rivera $4,000,000
CF 27 Kemp $10,000,000
RF 16 Ethier $10,950,000

IF/OF 6 Hairston $2,250,000
OF 10 Gwynn $850,000
2B/3B 3 Kennedy $800,000
C 18 Treanor $850,000
IF 12 Sellers $485,000 team control

SP 22 Kershaw $6,000,000
SP 58 Billingsley $9,000,000
SP 29 Lilly $12,000,000
SP 35 Capuano $3,000,000
SP 44
Harang $3,000,000

CL 54 Guerra $485,000 team control
RHP 74
Jansen $500,000 team control
RHP 55 Guerrier $4,750,000
RHP 60 Coffey $1,000,000
RHP 66 MacDougal $650,000
LHP 57 Elbert $485,000 team control
RHP 36
Hawksworth $500,000 team control

TJ 41 De La Rosa $485,000 team control



Manny $8,087,432 deferred


Andruw $3,375,000 deferred


Pierre $3,050,000 deferred
Furcal $3,000,000 deferred
Kuroda $2,000,000 deferred
Garland $1,500,000 option buyout
Blake $1,250,000 option buyout

Totals
$112,162,432

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Players on 40-man roster used as roster
fillers until moves are made.

Current 40-man roster count: 40
(not including Belisario)

2012 Non-Roster Invitees

No Player Age*
63 Jose Ascanio rhp
27
61 Alberto Castillo lhp
36
56 Matt Chico lhp
29
33 John Grabow lhp
33
59 Angel Guzman rhp
30
47 Wil Ledezma lhp
31
72 Shane Lindsay rhp
27
62 Fernando Nieve rhp 29
73 Scott Rice lhp 30
70 Will Savage rhp
27
71 Ryan Tucker rhp
25
28 Jamey Wright rhp
37

30 Josh Bard c 34
82 Griff Erickson c 24
81 Matt Wallachc 26
67 Jeff Baisley 3b/1b 29
65 Luis Cruz ss/2b 28
37 Josh Fields 3b 29
64 Lance Zawadzki if 27
56 Cory Sullivan of 32

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