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Dodgers Drop Finale To Reds, But Still Win The Day

A solo home run by Joey Votto -- the only long ball allowed by Dodger pitching this week -- in the sixth inning broke a tie, and his two-run single in the ninth inning added some insurance, giving the Reds a 5-2 victory over the Dodgers in the finale of a three game series at Dodger Stadium. The Reds also won the season series against the Dodgers, five games to four.

However, the Dodgers got their victory earlier in the day of course as broadcaster Vin Scully said he was coming back for the 2011 season.

Clayton Kershaw had some trouble in the first inning, as he is wont to do, walking two and allowing two runs and two hits. Kershaw has yet to retire the side in order in the first inning in any of his 26 starts this season, and has a 5.54 ERA in the opening frame this season. Kershaw did manage to record all three outs by strikeout in the first inning, and then settled down after that.

Kershaw threw first pitch strikes to 23 of the 30 batters he faced, striking out 11 in his seven innings of work, just the fourth game in his career with that many strikeouts. However, he was wild early and late, and ended up with five walks, just the seventh time he has walked that many in his career.

Bronson Arroyo pitched seven innings, allowing two runs, for the victory, his 14th on the season.

Notes

  • Matt Kemp has homered in back-to-back games for the fourth time this season. In addition to April 20-21 and July 3-4, Kemp homered in four straight games from April 13-16.
  • A.J. Ellis, in his last game before heading off to Albuqerque for a one-week trip, had his first career three-hit game, and drove in the Dodgers second run with a single in the fifth inning.
  • Casey Blake has a weird streak going, in that he has struck out exactly one time in 10 straight games

The Dodgers are off tomorrow, and start a series in Milwaukee Tuesday, with Ted Lilly facing Dave Bush.

WP - Bronson Arroyo (14-7):  7 IP, 7 hits, 2 runs, 6 strikeouts

LP - Clayton Kershaw (11-8):  7 IP, 5 hits, 3 runs, 5 walks, 11 strikeouts

Sv - Francisco Cordero (34):  3 up, 3 down

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Vinny’s coming back and the season is still over.

Win.

by Alex41592 on Aug 22, 2010 4:19 PM PDT reply actions  

That Casey Blake streak is weird.

I’ve never heard of anything like that…

by keithc13 on Aug 22, 2010 4:20 PM PDT reply actions  

That's pretty weird...

Hey… Did you see FSC today?

Louise Bourgoin: The hottest French actress I've ever seen <3

by Jojo93160 on Aug 22, 2010 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I watched a bunch of EPL.

Can I take back my prediction that Wigan might be decent?

10 goals in 2 games is unreal.

They are on the way down to the Championship.

by keithc13 on Aug 23, 2010 6:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Vin Scully

is fucking fly. look at those threads!!

STFU LYONS

Matt Kemp - Bringer of drought, puncher of babies faces(ugly ones killed on site), not Larry Bowa's GUY

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 22, 2010 4:21 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Standing O for Vin at the game

when they “announced” mid-game that he would be coming back.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 22, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

What is Eric’s boy Lyons saying?

by keithc13 on Aug 22, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Votto is just like Loney with more power;

That is like saying Scotty Pods is just like Carl Crawford with more grit.

by Tripon on Aug 22, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lyons also called Joe Buck the best announcer in the game about 5 years ago, while working for the Dodgers’ broadcast.

by oshea2002 on Aug 22, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

As long as Vin is still on the job the Dodgers are the best team in baseball.

"A baseball game is nothing but a great slow contraption for getting you to pay attention to the cadence of a summer day."

by Langhorne on Aug 22, 2010 4:26 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

She is also creepy looking

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 22, 2010 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I guess you’ve never seen her in her slutty red dress per Steve Mason.

by RoyaleWithCheeze on Aug 22, 2010 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've seen her face

looks like she has had some bad plastic surgery

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 22, 2010 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Particularly enjoyed her 'eulogy of you career' comment ...

Vin’s jaw nearly dropped at that one
thought maybe she was attempting to bury him on the spot!
inept?
clueless?
dumb?
inappropriate?

by 68elcamino427 on Aug 22, 2010 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

are you reffering to her or her comment?

if so the answer is yes

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 22, 2010 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Uh yeah?

Matt Kemp - Bringer of drought, puncher of babies faces(ugly ones killed on site), not Larry Bowa's GUY

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 22, 2010 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn, sucks to see 5 walks from Kershaw

I’m digging the 11 strikeouts, though.

Great to see Kemp with another homer, 21 on the year now I believe. There’s not much on this team to be happy about anymore. Let’s just hope we can get something for Manny in the next week and be done with that chapter.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 22, 2010 4:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Dodgers have 4 night games this week

Manny figures to play the first two games of each series (in Milwaukee, in Colorado), or until he is dealt/claimed.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 22, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

You think hes gonna get moved?

Matt Kemp - Bringer of drought, puncher of babies faces(ugly ones killed on site), not Larry Bowa's GUY

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 22, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

He absolutely should, without question.

But it’s 50/50 IMO

by Eric Stephen on Aug 22, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

we just traded for a catcher, or just claimed him.

Foolish or not, we’re going for try to win as many games as possible.

by Tripon on Aug 22, 2010 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was also because they almost literally had nobody else in the organization and they wanted to go with 3 catchers in September.

Separate issues IMO.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 22, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

eww

Matt Kemp - Bringer of drought, puncher of babies faces(ugly ones killed on site), not Larry Bowa's GUY

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 22, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Morale low here. One Met, watching Barajas say goodbyes, half-jokes “Can I go with him?” about 3 hours ago via web Retweeted by 31 people
SurfingTheMets
Andy Martino

by Tripon on Aug 22, 2010 4:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Lol, that's funny

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 22, 2010 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

damn

i was going to post that if no one had. Kinda sad when someone wants to come to the Dodgers right now, huh? lol

by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Aug 22, 2010 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is that Doctor Quinn?

Matt Kemp - Bringer of drought, puncher of babies faces(ugly ones killed on site), not Larry Bowa's GUY

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 22, 2010 4:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Thats why no one on the team can hit

Donny is doing fielding drills!

Matt Kemp - Bringer of drought, puncher of babies faces(ugly ones killed on site), not Larry Bowa's GUY

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 22, 2010 4:57 PM PDT reply actions  

alright peeps

Week in review will run tomorrow. I have a dinner to go to, and then a drive home, so I probably won’t post tonight.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 22, 2010 5:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Recap

Vin is God. we suck. Better luck next year.

Matt Kemp - Bringer of drought, puncher of babies faces(ugly ones killed on site), not Larry Bowa's GUY

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 22, 2010 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

EDIT

The batting stance guy must be fired

Matt Kemp - Bringer of drought, puncher of babies faces(ugly ones killed on site), not Larry Bowa's GUY

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 22, 2010 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

That first inning streak by Kershaw is crazy

Anyone know if there are any other comparable streaks of consecutive starts without retiring the side in order in the first inning? Weird request I know.

In a year that has been so improbable, the impossible has happened

by JB 8 on Aug 22, 2010 5:23 PM PDT reply actions  

maybe they should have a batter and an umpire at the plate in the bullpen for the pre- game warm-up?

by 68elcamino427 on Aug 22, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

sands

homered today. 14 at AA, 32nd on the year.

TSL AA 203AB 276/372/562

still good.

by npurcell on Aug 22, 2010 5:41 PM PDT reply actions  

It's so amazing to have a legit power prospect in the minors for us

I’m excited about him.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 22, 2010 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

276/372/562 is a great line for the Southern League.
He might make the team out of spring training if he keeps that up next year.

by Joey Joe on Aug 22, 2010 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

maybe a little too rushed for that

I like to see him start 2011 hot at AA or AAA and call him up by June.

by npurcell on Aug 22, 2010 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sands vs right handed pitchers this year

low A: 184AB 326/444/627

AA: 141AB 298/384/596

by npurcell on Aug 22, 2010 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

In other minor league news...

Mario Songo apparently hit a 508 foot homer. It was part of the back to back to back homers by the Loons (B Smith, Songco, and Ynoa). The 508 ft comes from an article on the milb.com page

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100822&content_id=13806266&vkey=news_milb&fext=.jsp

by Brandon Lennox on Aug 22, 2010 5:57 PM PDT reply actions  

he's probably the best prospect on the loons right now

even though he’s a bit of a funk lately at the plate.

by npurcell on Aug 22, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I still like b smith better

Especially since his defense is far superior to songco’s

by Brandon Lennox on Aug 22, 2010 6:05 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Smith is more athetic

but i’m not convinced he can hit at higher levels with that K . It’s really high at 26.6 coming into today for a 22 yr old 3 yr college player at Low A.

by npurcell on Aug 22, 2010 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's insane

I never knew he was that powerful…wow.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 22, 2010 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great Lakes really has a hell of an offense this year

I’m really excited about their outfield.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 22, 2010 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=CF&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=544930

Blake Smith has really been raking since the All-Star break in LoA this year. .939 OPS in that time.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 22, 2010 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=&sid=t456&t=p_pbp&pid=571552

Cavazos-Galvez is wrecking since the AS-break. 1.027 OPS in that time frame. Very impressive.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 22, 2010 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Serious question…

Does Rubby have a higher ceiling than Billingsley?

by Joey Joe on Aug 22, 2010 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

if you're asking me...

it depends on how his breaking pitch progresses. Rubby has a better fastball than Chad and his change up is probably better than Chad’s as well but right now Chad throws so many different types of breaking pitches cutter, slider, cb and throws them all well, that’s where he has the upper advantage right now.

by npurcell on Aug 22, 2010 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not at all

Billingsley was a first round pick and has pitched like it every year of his career. Rubby has had an excellent year, but there is no way he’d be considered higher than Billingsley as a prospect. I can’t remember Billingsley’s prospect rankings with BA or BP on their top 100 lists, but I think he was top 50 a few times.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 22, 2010 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

chad BA rankings

Pre-2005: Rated #19 Prospect
Pre-2006: Rated #7 Prospect

by npurcell on Aug 22, 2010 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

to compare with clayton

Pre-2007: Rated #24 Prospect
Pre-2008: Rated #7 Prospect

edwin jackson
Pre-2003: Rated #99 Prospect
Pre-2004: Rated #4 Prospect
Pre-2005: Rated #30 Prospect

scott elbert
Pre-2006: Rated #55 Prospect
Pre-2007: Rated #31 Prospect
Pre-2008: Rated #88 Prospect

by npurcell on Aug 22, 2010 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Bills was always rated as a 1 or 2 starter, no question, same as Kershaw. Rubby can’t be that highly rated until at least another dominating year.

God, I really, REALLY miss good Scott Elbert.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 22, 2010 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sweet!

Thanks for the heads up.

What minor leaguer should I ask about?

I’m thinking I’ll ask about Magill, Songco, or Smith.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 22, 2010 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

How much does NFL Live Mobile cost the ole customer per month on Verizon?

Do you have any clue?

Thanks and I’ll hang up and listen……

by keithc13 on Aug 22, 2010 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wasn't sure about wireless (NFL Redzone is 49.99 on FiOS TV, hey, something I actually knew off-hand :D )

http://phandroid.com/2010/07/22/verizons-nfl-mobile-app-re-launches-in-the-android-market/

But i found an article saying it will be 10 bucks a month. If you’re big into football it seems like it’s not too bad a deal, but if it’s just like Red Zone, you will really only get the highlights and the touchdowns, not every play of every game.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 22, 2010 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks man

1 more question….do you think the $10.00 is just for the V-Cast because I know that is required and is $10.00?

Or do you think that it is a total of $20.00 for the month.

I take back all the hateful shit I’ve said about you. :)

by keithc13 on Aug 22, 2010 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

From what I see here it looks like just 10 dollars, but if you remind me tomorrow during the day I can get an answer for you from my work if you are willing to wait for me to find out for sure.

Great, I’m always looking for the approval from everyone in here ;)

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 22, 2010 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks dude

I will post somewhere tomorrow.

by keithc13 on Aug 22, 2010 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Billingsley is up to a 3.3 WAR on fangraphs now

Looks to be on pace for over a 4 WAR season, and if he gets hot to end the season, possibly 4.5.

Kuroda goes next, and he is at 3.0 WAR. Kershaw is at 3.6, and I think that will go up to at least 3.7 or 3.8 after today, so they just keep getting better and better.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 22, 2010 6:58 PM PDT reply actions  

mlb free agent rankings dodgers

according to MLBTR,

Type A’s
Ted Lilly
Manny Ramirez

Type B’s
Hiroki Kuroda
Vicente Padilla
Octavio Dotel
Scott Pods

by npurcell on Aug 22, 2010 7:08 PM PDT reply actions  

I think it’s no question you don’t.

by Michael White on Aug 22, 2010 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

why?

Id take him back on a 1 year/12-13m deal.

But Im not McCourt..

by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Aug 22, 2010 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can’t risk him accepting unless you don’t mind the idea of Ely or Monasterios in the rotation.

by Michael White on Aug 22, 2010 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

2011 Rotation:

Billingsley
Kershaw

Cheapest 3
Kuroda
Padilla
Lilly
De La Rosa
Bonderman

As others have maintained, the 2010 5th starter disaster means the Dodgers are probably very gunshy to go into the season without a legitimate 5th starter next season.

by Michael White on Aug 22, 2010 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

i just dont expect us to get 3 FA starters

unless we go the non-competing route and get 3 guys that are past their prime and will be teachers to Billz and Kershaw

by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Aug 22, 2010 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

And then, Id still rather

have 2 teachers and Ely. See what we have to work with with the young guys

by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Aug 22, 2010 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ely is not good. And the idea of signing 3 pitchers is much more doable if you don’t have $12MM tied up in 1 of them.

Hence, why you can’t offer arbitration.

Billingsley and Kershaw don’t need teachers, it will be their 5th and 4th years in the starting rotation in the majors.

by Michael White on Aug 22, 2010 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

sorry

teachers isn’t the best word. Mentor is.

And you are correct, but do you think we will honestly sign 3 separate FA starters, especially given that over the last few years, we have started with a rookie 5th starter. I think we sign 2 FAs, and it may be something like Lilly and Padilla.

by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Aug 22, 2010 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even so, if they are only signing 2 why would you sign the one with the highest price tag? Would you sign Padilla or Kuroda for 1 year $12MM? If not, why would you sign Lilly at that price point? He’s not materially better if at all.

by Michael White on Aug 22, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would want the two draft picks over another year of Lilly, but wouldn’t mind Lilly back at that price if that makes sense.

by Tripon on Aug 22, 2010 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

my thoughts exactly

Withrow really dissapointed this season. I thought he would be competing for a rotation spot in spring training next year

by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 22, 2010 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought Withrow would be up by now.

I was drinking the kool-aid and am completely disillusioned.

by Michael White on Aug 22, 2010 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I get that completely. Offering is the high risk/high reward prop.

Consider how it could play out. Would you rather have Lilly (at the arb reward), Padilla and Ely or Kuroda, Padilla and De La Rosa.

I have no idea if De La Rosa is on LADs mind at all, but I could see Lilly accepting meaning Ely is also in the rotation.

by Michael White on Aug 22, 2010 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

De La Rosa is on his first big FA time. He’ll want a multi-year for big money.
He won’t get that here.
Bonderman is utter chunks. He’s FIPless at this stage.

by megaballs on Aug 22, 2010 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Lilly is better than both

Padilla and Kuroda. Proven track record, similar age, hasn’t blown up to multiple organizations, lack of injuries, etc.

Now, it may not be smart for the Dodgers, but if we are signing two FA starters, Id go for two of the best(I assume Lee is out of out range)

by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Aug 22, 2010 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

xFIP

Lilly: 4.22
Kuroda: 3.64
Padilla: 3.99

by Michael White on Aug 22, 2010 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

money in the bank, offer the arb

Fip, xFIP or Flip, one look at the LHP Lilly’s WHIP and innings totals the past few years is enough to tell me he gets a 2-3 year offer somewhere.
This second derivative of sabermetrics that proves that Padilla and Kuroda are equal and even better than Lilly, I can’t get my arms around this…we need to offer him the arb,Michael. We have two starters next year. If he accepts, which he won’t, we’ll have a third guy, and a lefty to boot with a 1.05 WHIP this year and past….with a habit of throwing for 180-200 innings….otherwise we have the two first rounders.
The only reason to avoid offering the arb is because we don’t want to pay the $12mil for one year or to pay two more 1st rounders. IMO
We would be giving away an asset and not reading the marketplace correctly.

by megaballs on Aug 22, 2010 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

kinda like what we did with Wolf, no?

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 22, 2010 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

And Wolf has sucked.

People are getting completely carried away looking at Lilly’s small sample size success.

by Michael White on Aug 22, 2010 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well

Ive always liked Lilly, but here are his stats since he went to CHC:

3.61 ERA, 35 starts, 214 innings, 125 ERA+, 3.32 K/BB…. its more than SSS

by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Aug 22, 2010 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

His ERA is outperforming his xFIP (exactly like Wolf did last year) and nevermind the Chicago shit everybody here is smitten because of how well’s he’s pitched since arriving.

I like Lilly and would love to resign him, but I don’t think offering arb is the correct strategy from a risk management standpoint.

by Michael White on Aug 22, 2010 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

that’s what I was referring to. If Frank offers arbitration, he’ll do so with a gun to his head and holding his breath.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 22, 2010 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like I said above

Id offer if we were almost any other team, and would love to have him here, but the McCourt’s will probably be the main reason if he isnt back, not because of stats…

by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Aug 22, 2010 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I honestly wonder how Wolf would have done with us

Obviously nowhere as close as he did in 2009, but I just wonder anyway.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 22, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Considering how shitty the defense has been, probably the weakest on the staff. His BABIP in 2009 was a very low at .257 and his k/9 is the lowest of his career.

by Michael White on Aug 22, 2010 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Basically, his BABIP normalized and he’s not K-ing enough to make up for it. His walks are also the highest in his career.

Shitty peripherals for Mr. Wolf.

by Michael White on Aug 22, 2010 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess he was just due to regress hard no matter where he went

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 22, 2010 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

People have gotten completely carried away with xFIP.

by Salty on Aug 23, 2010 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why?

He could either accept and get 9 or 10 million or get a multi-year contract with another team and we get a first round draft pick.

by Julio Nievas on Aug 22, 2010 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s looking at around $12MM if he accepts (at least that’s Eric’s read on it.) I just don’t see how you can risk locking up that much cash in 1 pitcher when you have 3 holes in the rotation and similar options available. With only 2 pitchers under contract, you need to look at quantity.

by Michael White on Aug 22, 2010 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is Kuroda technically considered a type A or B? Wouldn't he have to be non-tendered or be given 4th year arbitration?

If he truly is a type B that would be fantastic, because we can either get a sandwhich pick for him or retain him, and Im great with either.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 22, 2010 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think because he was an

IFA, it is different, although i am not sure…

by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Aug 22, 2010 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

my friend Leighton…with Manny, 2 weeks ago, at the W in Scottsdale.

by npurcell on Aug 22, 2010 8:00 PM PDT reply actions  

i think it's funny..

Manny’s suppose to be in glendale rehabbing and he still goes out clubbing at the W across town.

by npurcell on Aug 22, 2010 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

You can’t rehab at night. Nighttime is made for clubbing

by vadodger on Aug 22, 2010 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thats so cool.
What kind if place is “W”?

Is it a college bar, dance club, what?
Cover charge?

by Joey Joe on Aug 22, 2010 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also LOL that Manny is drinking FiJi water. I see that stuff all the time at hotels but never at bars.

by Joey Joe on Aug 22, 2010 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s the high end hotel.

by Michael White on Aug 22, 2010 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

like mike said

the W is a high end hotel. It’s the only place in old town Scottsdale that has turned me away because I didn’t have a collared shirt. Nice to see they stayed true to their rule with Manny as well….

by npurcell on Aug 22, 2010 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kershaw has yet to retire the side in order in the first inning in any of his 26 starts this season,

wow!

by Xeifrank on Aug 22, 2010 8:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Got my Magill question in for John

does anyone having a scouting report on him though?

by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 22, 2010 8:34 PM PDT reply actions  

i bet john

doesn’t have too much info on magill.

by npurcell on Aug 22, 2010 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah thats probably true

I feel like I wasted a question, but o well dont wanna talk about Withrow or Martin anymore

by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 22, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

You think Gordon makes the final cut?

He didn’t play much today, but he had a good game against Lithuania

by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 22, 2010 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do. His game plays in the international format.

With Curry having the bum ankle, I think Westbrook and Gordon make it over Curry. Don’t like that Gordon didn’t play much today, but Coach K definitely likes him game. I just want the cuts to be announced so I’m not watching these games hoping Westbrook and Curry play like shit and just rooting for the squad to win.

by Michael White on Aug 22, 2010 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sickels is dead to me ever since he did an All Questions Answered thread and failed to answer my question. Bastard!

by kinbote on Aug 22, 2010 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

you really are bitter about everything, aren’t you.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 22, 2010 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

No

I just have a strong personal dislike for UCI. I attended for three years and transferred with extreme prejudice. Immediately after I left [no connection], they had that fertility clinic scandal which disgusted even me further. Cal had nothing to do with my comment.

I realized it was a petty thing to say, but I’m among friends here :)

by kinbote on Aug 22, 2010 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, okay. Yeah, I can understand your frustation with UCI.

If it wasn’t for the fact I already graduated, I probably would have transferred myself. What was the fertility clinic scandal?

The big thing currently about the campus is that they just banned the Muslim Union for one too many anti-Semitic rants.

by Tripon on Aug 22, 2010 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't quote me

But I believe they stole eggs from women during [supposed] routine examinations and then fertilized them without permission. It was kinda unethical.

by kinbote on Aug 22, 2010 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

ok, im about to apply to UCI

but havent heard about the scandals… can anyone fill me in?

by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Aug 22, 2010 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I went to UCSD but when I applied the UC application could go to three schools. I know I sent apps to UCSD, UCSB, and UCI.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 22, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually, shit. I can’t remember. I may have had UCLA on the list to, but I decided not to go. It’s all fuzzy to me now.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 22, 2010 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I sent apps to UCSD, UCLA, UCI, and UCR.(My one sure safe school), got accepted to USCD,UCI,and UCR, rejected by UCLA. Decided to go to UCI

by Tripon on Aug 22, 2010 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

its because its a UC

but it isnt quite on the level of SD, Berkley, or LA

by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Aug 22, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

My sister is at UCSD

and Ive seen it ranked
Berkley
UCLA
UCSD
UCI

everyone else.

However, I saw a poll recently by students that had UCI above UCSD

by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Aug 22, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

UCI doesn't have the history

but they are there academically

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 22, 2010 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

UCLA FTW

but I gotta wait 2 years at a CC.

:(

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Aug 23, 2010 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

guess it isnt all that bad

I’ll save a boat load of money by staying here vs going to an out of state private school.

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Aug 23, 2010 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

I always hated the Muslim and Jewish unions

was not surprised in the least when one of them got shut down. Got so sick of our school getting in the news over religious tension

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 22, 2010 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just checked

The leader on the team in walks is Russell Martin with 48. The way it’s looking as that after having 8 guys with at least 50 last year, we may not have more than 1 or 2 with 50 this season. I think we see why our offense has failed, they can’t take a walk to save their lives.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 22, 2010 9:48 PM PDT reply actions  

How big a role do injuries play in that stat? I would think Manny, Ethier, & Furcal would be safe bets to reach 50 walks if healthy. DeWitt too, if he stuck around. What’s Loney at right now?

by kinbote on Aug 22, 2010 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes and no

2009: 607 BB / 6384 PA = 9.51%
2010: 421 BB / 4732 PA = 8.90%

Walks are down, yes, but I think it’s more due to having fewer “full time” regulars. Last year, Manny missed 50 games, but Blake at 139 games played was in 7th place among the remaining regulars. Basically we had the same lineup all year, in general.

This year, we’re going to have 5 guys at 130+ games tops, and one of those will be Jamey Carroll. Injuries and trades have changes the landscape of the playing time distribution this year.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 22, 2010 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Has anyone pointed out that we appear to be a much worse team after the trades?

by kinbote on Aug 22, 2010 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Offensively

and the bullpen.

Hooray for a great rotation with nothing else!

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 22, 2010 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is a good point, I sort of forgot about Ethier, Manny, and Furcal missing time

With Dewitt being traded at the deadline.

The thing is though, that Blake, Kemp, Loney have played all year and I believe all of their walks are down, then Ethier only missed 15 days so it shouldn’t be a huge difference there in playing time. Thanks for doing the dirty work with the team percentages. I would have imagined it would have been lower, actually.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 22, 2010 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Very Frustrated Game today...

Kershaw was great, but the offense was not…
This game reminds me so many games in 2010…
Very Frsutrated Year…

@Keitch13:

Did you see soccer today on FSC? (PSG vs Bordeaux)

Louise Bourgoin: The hottest French actress I've ever seen <3

by Jojo93160 on Aug 22, 2010 9:53 PM PDT reply actions  

I forgot to look for Ligue 1 today. I will catch a replay if it is on.

I recorded a bunch of EPL to watch, that is all I’ve seen this year.

by keithc13 on Aug 23, 2010 7:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sickels new top 100 posted 8/16

KC rocking the top 50
Gordon 41
Trayvon 66
Sands 80
Martin 82
A Miller 88
And Mr. Webster at 100

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 22, 2010 10:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Ah

86 for Mr Withrow

so only one top 50

but pretty good recognition at the back end

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 22, 2010 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s what she s—-

by kinbote on Aug 22, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow, that's 7 top 100 prospects, that's seriously great for a farm system no one has been high on in the last 3 years

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 22, 2010 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Josh Bell did not make the cut

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 22, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cool seeing Sands getting some recog

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 22, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

agree

someone on the AQA thread asked which sleeper/unknown prospect coming into the year is more for real, Sands or JD Martinez(astros). Im curious what his answer is.

by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Aug 22, 2010 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh I thought you meant minorleagueball.com as well

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 22, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dee Gordon before today

.283/.335/.366 for a 700 OPS, and 49 steals. If you don’t give a shit about OBP, he still looks like an elite prospect.

by Tripon on Aug 22, 2010 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

and considering that he has been playing for, what, 5 years

and is doing well in AA, people could consider that he could gain patience..

by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Aug 22, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Link?

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 22, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Look for it:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 22, 2010 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Withrow's off but Martin is still on? Wow

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 22, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, then I read it really fast...I could have sworn I didn't see him on there

Withrow has a higher ceiling than Martin does, that’s how it’s always been.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 22, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

really?

Withrow has been compared to Billz, Martin to Kershaw… And Phil missed posting it but corrected when Eric asked

by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Aug 22, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wait, what?

Withrow after last year was being compared to Josh Beckett because of his fastball and curve ball from what I remember, and I never saw a comp to Martin, but just about every has had Martin behind Withrow everywhere. Withrow may be doing really bad, but he’s doing it at a higher level than Martin right now at the very least and at the same age.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 22, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

i was talking potential long term

When he was drafted, martin was compared to Kershaw, i think by White.(dont quote me, i may be wrong on who said it).
 
And Beckett and Billingsley have been compared to each other as well…

by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Aug 22, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I understand that too, but like I said, everyone's had Withrow higher every time until right now

Alright, that means what to this conversation then?

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 22, 2010 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Withrow"s position is fine

I would put him on the back end of a 100 as well. He does have legitimate concerns.

by npurcell on Aug 22, 2010 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol and martin and withrow

sure at the time they were compared to billz and kershaw but they haven’t developed like them. Opinions change and prospects get re-analyzed all the time. they don’t compared to our two major league studs now.

by npurcell on Aug 22, 2010 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

no they havent developed on the same path

and probably shouldn’t have been expected to. Simply put, not many prospects pan out as well, and quickly, as Billingsley or Kershaw did.

And I wasn’t trying to imply that the Beckett comparison is a slight… if we get a Josh Beckett out of either Withrow or Martin, we are set. If we get that outta both… White hit the jackpot.

by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Aug 23, 2010 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

By the end of the year

Rubby may pass all of them in the pitching ranks.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 22, 2010 10:16 PM PDT reply actions  

By the end of the year Withrow and Martin probably will be gone from that with Rubby replacing one of them on the list

That’s just what I think will happen, anyway.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 22, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone watching “The Great Food Truck Race” on Food Network?

by Eric Stephen on Aug 22, 2010 10:31 PM PDT reply actions  

I am a big fan of the owner of Nom Nom, or however they spell it.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 22, 2010 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

All Bruins right there.

by UCLADodger32 on Aug 22, 2010 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

New Minor League Post

http://www.truebluela.com/2010/8/22/1637108/milb-dodger-recap-8-22-back-to

Lot of fun stuff today.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 22, 2010 11:39 PM PDT reply actions  

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