MiLB Dodger Recap 8/22 - Back to Back to Back Loon Jacks
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 22, 2010 11:36 PM PDT
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PrintLot of stuff today. Big night in Loon time.
John Sickels who hosts the SB Nation minor league blog also writes for Rotowire, and on Aug 16 he updated his top 100 list. He is also answering some questions either tonight or tomorrow and our boys have asked a few Dodger prospect questions so check in on his answers. He's not the end all, but he works hard.
41 - Dee Gordon
66 - Trayvon Robinson
80 - Sandman
82 - Ethan Martin
86 - Chris Withrow
88 - Aaron Miller
100 - Allen Webster
AAA – Istotopes won 7 behind the red hot Ivan DeJesus who collect three hits to give him seven hits in his last two games. Russell Mitchell played RF again with Denker playing 3rd base. Maybe the Dodgers are checking to see if Mitchell can really be the Kevin Millar of the 21st century's 2nd decade. For some reason Van Slyke is now an Isotope. Interesting they skipped him to AAA instead of Sands or Trayvon.
AA – Sands blasted his 14th home in AA, his 32nd of the year. He's playing 1st base, watch out Loney the sands of time may be running out. They lost 9 -2 with Robinson/Russell/Gordon all going 0 for 4.
High A – uh, the worst minor league team of the 21st century went crazy, pummeling Bakersfield 15 - 0. Aaron Miller got back on the beam with a solid six shutout innings. The offense celebrate the promotion of Van Slyke by having the best offensive game of the year. Caseres drove in five runs with a home run, and double. Silverio continued his hot August with two more hits. Even Austin Gallagher got in the act with a grand slam. That is not a misprint, the 6'5 Gallagher actually hit a home run.
A – Smith, Songco, and Ynoa all went back to back to back with Songco hitting a mammoth shot as the Loons won 7 - 1.
Songco's shot, his 14th, cleared the Dow Diamond and landed in the parking lot beyond the right-field fence. It was officially estimated at 508 feet.
The game was not just about the offense as Matt MaGill was on his game.
Great Lakes starter Matt Magill (7-4) didn't give up a hit before allowing a sixth-inning single to Jeff Rowland on his 79th pitch. He ended up allowing two hits and three walks while fanning six over six frames.
Rookie Ogden – Oops, on first blush it looked like Patterson had an ass whooping and even though he couldn't get out of the 1st inning and gave up eight runs, only five were earned. The Raptors can sure hit, but they sure can't field. In the end the Raptors lost 10 - 8.
Rookie Arizona Game 1 – 19 year old Gustavo Gomez is dealing. He threw six shut out innings today, which follows two great games. He's now thrown 16 innings, seven hits, two earned runs, four walks, and 18 K's. James Baldwin had two more hits, including a triple. With his early season struggles firmly in the rear-view window, Baldwin laughs at the hitless Pederson.
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FYI
if you are a member at minorleagueball.com, you can still ask questions until he either comments or updates the post saying stop. My guess is it will be open through the night, because it is nearly 2 am where he lives…
Oh, that Sands guy is pretty good.
And I think DeJesus may have read my post about what we should do next year, and likes the idea of starting and showing he can be a good MLB player…
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Aug 22, 2010 11:41 PM PDT reply actions
dejesus
dodgers probably like him a good deal. He’s a plus defensive 2b and if he ever regains his ability to walk like he’s shown in the past, I will like him a great deal as well.
I think it could happen
remember, he had a significant injury and he may be coming out to prove he can still hit. He may feel “i have to prove my value to them again”, and then regain more patience next year, in the minors or majors
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Aug 23, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Pretty good.
I can’t see a scenario in which a player just craters like that for no good reason.
I mean, AA is advanced pitching as well, arguably better prospects.
by Chad Moriyama on Aug 23, 2010 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions
What do you think of Songco's 508?
Where did that come from?
An-trade, An-trade an-trade an-trade, An-trade, An-trade.
rubby
like what you said in the main thread Phil, by the end of the year I think Rubby top’s our pitching list. I think Sickels will jump on the Rubby bandwagon by the end of the year.
This was a great day for just about all out teams :)
I wonder why Van Slyke was promoted to AAA, same with Travis Denker. I wonder if it’s just temporary.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Dumb questions incoming
1) Is it feasible that we trade Loney for a pitcher and promote Sands?
2) Is it also feasible that we promote either Trayvon to CF and move Kemp to RF, Ethier to LF or promote Russell to RF and move Ethier to LF?
3) Is 400k DeJesus better than $4mil+ Theriot
4) Should we check to see what Raffy’s value would be and let Theriot play SS for a year?
5) Lastly, do you think a prospect will get the opportunity to succeed in the MLB rotation or will the FO be out looking for 5 legit starters as a knee jerk reaction to this season?
Go easy on me with the whips. it’s Monday, it’s early, and I’m deliriously hopeful of our prospects.
Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.
1. I could see them trading Loney for the right package, but then signing a stop gap 1st baseman. I don’t think Sands will be in the picture come Spring 2011 as a starting option.
2. I don’t see the Dodgers counting on Trayvon to start 2011. Paul would be more of an option if Pod is not signed.
3. Given the cost, I’d say yes. With Jamey Carroll as the solid backup this seems like a reasonable plan.
4. Yes, but his physical problems just cratered his value
5. Given that Monk / Ely is the only possible options ready to start, I don’t think they will go with Monk or Ely as the only fifth starter options. The fifth starter will probably be crap, but I expect he will be external crap.
1. I wonder if Carlos Pena would be willing to take a 1 year deal to boost his value after starting the season so slowly. Otherwise the whole 1B FA market is 35 year old hasbeens who may want a couple years based on reputation (Berkman, Lee, Glaus, Konerko (not a hasbeen apparently but would still warrant multiple years), and Overbay.
2-4. Kind of what I expected too. Not sure we could handle an entire OF that K’s as often as Kemp, Trayvon and Ethier would.
5. Was thinking more along the lines of a Rubby or a (i know, i know) Withrow getting a shot in ST or will they pre-emptively sign someone. I guess you answered that question.
An-trade, An-trade an-trade an-trade, An-trade, An-trade.
The Dodgers led baseball by spending 224% of their estimated slot on the draft, according to Baseball America. Most clubs spent more than MLB suggested, but only eight exceeded 150% of MLB’s preferred budget.
L.M.A.O.!!!!!!!!!!!!!! priceless
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Aug 23, 2010 2:22 PM PDT reply actions
Sickels answered my question
regarding where Lee would rank among Dodger prospects and said he is definitely top 10, probably top 5.
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Aug 23, 2010 3:35 PM PDT reply actions
It's a revelation around these parts that he wasn't #1
by Chad Moriyama on Aug 23, 2010 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions
very true
just thought people would like to hear the idea of someone who does it for a living. Lets face it, most, if not all, of the posters here do NOT know how to correctly grade prospects. Obviously it isnt an exact science, but I guess it shows that #1 is premature…
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Aug 23, 2010 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions
but what does he have to go off of?
he’s never seen him play…he’s just going off what he’s read also…plus he doesn’t value youth as much as most people. I’ve never really taken his stuff too seriously since he has so much to cover…that being said, I enjoy reading him and it is good to get an unbiased opinon once in a while. However, I bet when he finally takes a look at our system at the end of the season, he’ll realize that Zee should be higher than his initial guess. During the season, it’s easy for him to lose track of guys and when he does the Q&A threads, he just goes off the top of his head
by Brandon Lennox on Aug 23, 2010 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions
just thought people would like to hear the idea of someone who does it for a living. Lets face it, most, if not all, of the posters here do NOT know how to correctly grade prospects.
there isn’t an exact science to rate prospects. Everyone from BA to sickels, goldstein, klaw, project prospect, etc; all can vary in opinion on any specific player. some people are more state oriented, some like to look at more tools. some value a higher floor over a higher ceiling and etc. Putting Lee at #1 is not outrageous and logical arguments can be made for it. And the same could be said to just put Lee around 5 or so; i can see sound arguments for that route as well. To me personally, it’s really not where you rank there, it’s how you justify that ranking. If I can follow the logic behind it, i wouldn’t get too upset.
You do realize I said in the next line
that it isn’t an exact science?
And I do agree with your last point, for the most part. If you are able to justify it, I will at least listen
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Aug 24, 2010 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions
you know sickels is more stat oriented
and its hard for to rank lee near the top when there is no professional innings to go by.
I don't disagree with him there
Hard to say a guy is ahead of Rubby or Sands or somebody just because in 4 years he might be doing the same.
by Chad Moriyama on Aug 25, 2010 1:50 AM PDT up reply actions
i cant believe that ethan martin is still on top 100 lists
after the season he had
If you are very potential oriented
and he is at, like, 99, I’m not shocked.
However, if you have Martin, I think you need Withrow. They are having equally as bad seasons, but Withrow’s is at least at a higher level
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Aug 24, 2010 12:29 AM PDT up reply actions
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