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Dodgers Week 20 In Review: Lee And Scully Make For A Good Week

Stop me if you have heard this before, but the Dodgers pitched very well last week, especially the starters, but also were plagued by a paucity of runs. The Dodgers lost four of seven games this week, but this was a memorable week for two reasons.

On Monday, the Dodgers signed their first-round draft pick, Zach Lee, luring him away from becoming a quarterback at LSU. From the very moment Lee was drafted, the consensus was that Lee was unsignable and that Frank McCourt was punting this pick so they wouldn't have to pay a hefty draft bonus this year. However, in the end, Lee was signed, providing a reason for optimism. Sure, the club-record $5.25 million signing bonus was spread out over five years, but at least from a symbolic standpoint, the fact that Lee is now in the organization is a positive step.

On Sunday, the Dodgers announced that Hall of Fame broadcaster Vin Scully would return for the 2011 season, his 62nd year with the team. The Dodgers simply wouldn't be the Dodgers without Vin.

Dodger Batter of the Week:   Jamey Carroll had the best week among the starters, hitting .333/.440/.429, so he gets the award. I was tempted to award either Reed Johnson (4-for-7 with a home run) or Jay Gibbons (3-for-7 with a home run) but they just didn't have enough at-bats. Overall, the bench of Johnson, Gibbons, A.J. Ellis, and Ronnie Belliard combined to hit .407/.448/.630 for the week.

Dodger Pitcher of the WeekTed Lilly wins for the second-straight week, thanks to his two-hit shutout of the Rockies on Thursday. The starters were fantastic this week, averaging 6.71 innings per start with a microscopic 1.91 ERA.

Week 20 Record:  3-4
24 runs scored (3.43 per game)
20 runs allowed (2.86 per game)
.583 pythagorean winning percentage

Season Record:  63-62
540 runs scored (4.32 per game)
537 runs allowed (4.30 per game)
.503 pythagorean winning percentage (63-62)

Star-divide

Transactions

  • Friday:  The Dodgers placed Vicente Padilla on the 15-day disabled list with a bulging disc in his neck. Taking Padilla's place on the roster was Travis Schlichting, who was recalled from Triple A Albuquerque
  • Saturday:  The Dodgers activated Manny Ramirez from the disabled list, and to make room Juan Castro was designated for assignment.
  • Sunday:  The Dodgers activated Jeff Weaver form the disabled list, and placed Travis Schlichting on the 15-day disabled list with a right shoulder strain.
  • Sunday:  The Dodgers claimed catcher Rod Barajas from the Mets. He will join the Dodgers in Milwaukee on Tuesday

Game Results:

Upcoming Week:  The Dodgers hit the road, where they have lost 14 of 17 games since the All-Star break. This week, the Dodgers travel to the land of beer and bratwurst, then satisfy their taste for Rocky Mountain Oysters.

Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat Sun
23
Off
24
at Mil
5:10pm
25
at Mil
5:10pm
26
at Mil
11:10am
27
at Col
6:10pm
28
at Col
5:10pm
29
at Col
12:10pm

 

Previous Weeks in Review: Wk 1 | Wk 2 | Wk 3 | Wk 4 | Wk 5 | Wk 6 | Wk 7 | Wk 8 | Wk 9 | Wk 10 | Wk 11 | Wk 12 | Wk 13 | Wk 14 | Wk15 | Wk 16 | Wk 17 | Wk 18 | Wk 19

Week 20 Stats

Player PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SB/CS BA/OBP/SLG OPS
Carroll 25 21 2 7 2 0 0 2 4 1/1 .333/.440/.429 .869
Ethier 25 23 3 6 1 0 1 2 2 0/0 .261/.320/.435 .755
Blake 29 25 5 7 2 0 0 3 4 0/0 .280/.379/.360 .739
Theriot 29 25 2 6 1 0 1 2 3 0/1 .240/.321/.400 .721
Kemp 27 23 2 3 0 0 2 2 4 0/1 .130/.259/.391 .651
Ausmus 13 12 0 3 0 0 0 1 1 0/0 .250/.308/.250 .558
Podsednik 27 25 3 4 1 0 0 2 2 0/0 .160/.222/.200 .422
Loney 25 23 1 2 1 0 0 2 2 0/0 .087/.160/.130 .290
Manny 3 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0/0 .000/.000/.000 .000

Johnson 7 7 2 4 0 0 1 2 0 0/0 .571/.571/1.000 1.571
Gibbons 9 7 3 3 0 0 1 1 2 0/0 .429/.556/.857 1.413
Ellis 10 10 1 4 0 0 0 1 0 0/0 .400/.400/.400 .800
Belliard 3 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0/0 .000/.000/.000 .000

Pitchers 16 13 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0/0 .000/.000/.000 .000
Totals 248 220 24 49 8 0 6 20 24 1/3 .223/.299/.341 .640

 

Pitcher G W-L Sv IP H R ER BB K ERA WHIP FIP*
Lilly 1 1-0 -- 9.0 2 0 0 2 11 0.00 0.444 1.42
Kershaw 2 1-1 -- 14.0 10 3 3 8 17 1.93 1.286 3.41
Monasterios 1 0-1 -- 4.1 8 3 1 1 6 2.08 2.077 1.12
Kuroda 1 0-0 -- 7.0 6 2 2 1 7 2.57 1.000 1.63
Billingsley 2 1-0 -- 12.2 12 4 4 2 15 2.84 1.105 1.31
Starters 7
3-2 -- 47.0 38 12 10 14 56 1.91 1.106 1.99
Jansen 2 0-0 -- 2.0 1 0 0 3 1 0.00 2.000 6.70
Sherrill 1 0-0 -- 1.0 0 0 0 0 1 0.00 0.000 1.20
Belisario 2 0-0 -- 1.0 0 0 0 1 1 0.00 1.000 4.20
Dotel 4 0-1 0/1 4.0 1 1 1 4 5 2.25 1.250 2.95
Broxton 4 0-0 1 3.2 4 2 2 1 4 4.91 1.364 1.84
Kuo 3 0-1 -- 4.0 3 3 3 2 3 6.75 1.250 3.20
Schlichting 1 0-0 -- 0.2 1 2 2 1 1 27.00 3.000 4.70
Relievers 7
0-2 1/2 16.1 10 8 8 12 16
4.41 1.347 3.26
Totals 7
3-4 1/2 63.1 48 20 18 26 72 2.56 1.168 2.32
*FIP is estimated

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Casey Blake was the big RBI guy for the week

and I’m concerned about you Eric. I think you’ve been drinking PBR late at night with Bowa. You naming Jamey Gamer as the hitter of the week! I’m kidding, you didn’t have a lot to choose from. :)

by keithc13 on Aug 23, 2010 7:11 AM PDT reply actions  

Haha!

I don’t know if you know this, but Jamey Carroll is the MVP of this team :)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 23, 2010 7:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's sad that Furcal is at 4 WAR in like 76 games

and might not even play again this season.

Carroll is going to end up with the 2nd highest WAR on this team behind him I’m sure.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 23, 2010 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

4 DOWN

Check on the pricing of NFL LIVE Mobile today at work. You asked me to remind you.

Thanks again man.

by keithc13 on Aug 23, 2010 7:11 AM PDT reply actions  

Hmmm, I'm not sure if this is true

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/nfl-mobile-is-here-exclusively-for-verizon-wireless-customers-90865674.html

At launch, NFL Mobile will be available on 13 3G Smartphones and 3G Multimedia Phones, including DROID by Motorola, Motorola DEVOUR™, DROID ERIS™ by HTC, BlackBerry® Curve™ 8530, BlackBerry Curve™ 8330, BlackBerry Storm2™, BlackBerry Storm™, BlackBerry Tour™, BlackBerry 8830 World Edition, LG Chocolate Touch™, LG enV® TOUCH, LG VX8360 and Samsung Rogue™.

NFL Mobile is a free app covering the 2010 NFL season, with no subscription or monthly charges if customers download it by Dec. 31, 2010. For customers without an unlimited data plan, data or megabyte charges may apply when downloading or using the application.


Beginning today, customers with Android phones can download the app from the Verizon Channel in Android Market™. Customers with BlackBerry devices can enter http://mobile.vzw.com/nfl on their smartphones’ browsers to download the app. Over the next few weeks, BlackBerry customers will also receive a virtual pre-load of the NFL Mobile app to the homescreen of their smartphones. Customers with select 3G Multimedia Phones can get the app by texting “NFL” to 2777 to receive directions on how to download.

It says here the app is free, but I’m guessing the actual service definitely is not. I’ll keep looking until I can ask my coworker when she gets in at 9.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 23, 2010 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ok, found it

http://www.droid-life.com/2010/07/22/new-nfl-mobile-app-hits-android-market/

Mid-post update: There is one major negative and it might be a deal breaker. As of 9/1, a $10 per month VCAST subscription will be needed to play video. (Yuck.) Like our $30 required data package isn’t enough? And I just went from uber-excited blogger to half-way depressed blogger. I need RedZone everywhere!

So as of right now it looks free to get the app, but starting in September you need to pay that $10 a month subscription to Vcast.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 23, 2010 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

thanks man

IThat’s what I was reading too. Sounds like I’m in!

by keithc13 on Aug 23, 2010 9:37 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

While I was stuck going to the Friday game, Homer Bailey made us his bitch :(

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 23, 2010 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

cool thing though. In the Dodger magazine they give you when you drive through the gates, there was a little article about Russ Mitchell. It said that the longest he’s spent at any level is 2 years in AA. Tim Wallach also said he thought he played third base very well and praised him for his attitude and work ethic. called him a “throwback player” which i’m sure translates as “chock full o’grit”

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 23, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

It is now August 23rd

We are 7 days away from the scheduled start of the McCourt Divorce trial.

More than anything that happens on the field, these next 7 days could be much more significant to the future of our beloved franchise. I will be counting down the days to see what transpires.

by BFDC on Aug 23, 2010 8:04 AM PDT reply actions  

Man our offensive core is sucking wind

I will say as bad as Loney / Kemp numbers are they did seem to hit into some bad lucky when they put the bat on the ball.

by meercatjohn on Aug 23, 2010 8:15 AM PDT reply actions  

rolling over to shortstop does that. Though the last game of the Rockies series brought hope that Kemp was breaking out and he seems to at least be doing that. Maybe Donnie is helping finally, or maybe Kemp finally asked for help, or maybe Don is making a late push to look helpful so he can be manager, or….who knows.

Matt Kemp can make the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs.

by G.Scott on Aug 23, 2010 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

It is time...

As much as it pains me to say this…IT IS TIME TO START SELLING.
I think pretty much every guy not under contract beyond this year should be made available. Manny, if healthy, should be the Number 1 guy being shopped.
The one guy that I think I would keep (even though he would probaly bring us a high return) is Ted Lilly. Lilly has be amazing and I would love to keep him around in hopes of giving us the edge in resigning him.
Anyway, SELL! SELL! SELL! Get some good prospects back this year, pick up some good free agents in the off season, come back roaring into next year AND let WIN FOR VIN be our battle cry!
I could be wrong though…I’m pretty drunk.

by gus2327 on Aug 23, 2010 8:36 AM PDT reply actions  

It was time to start selling on July 20th.

An-trade, An-trade an-trade an-trade, An-trade, An-trade.

by G.Scott on Aug 23, 2010 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Can we even be sellers at this point and expect anything more than salary relief?

by robotmadeofnails on Aug 23, 2010 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Some of those bubble teams would probably pay the same as July 31 prices if they thought they would get a playoff benefit too.

An-trade, An-trade an-trade an-trade, An-trade, An-trade.

by G.Scott on Aug 23, 2010 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

From Fannation.com - more Dave Stewart

here’s what Stewart thinks about Dodgers fans. “Do you think for one moment I care about the town of L.A. or the fans there?” Stewart wrote in an e-mail to Page 2. … A few days ago, Kemp said he didn’t want to go anywhere, but now there’s the question left unanswered whether he has changed his mind and come around to his agent’s thinking. Is Stewart trying to talk Kemp’s way out of town?

by BFDC on Aug 23, 2010 9:08 AM PDT reply actions  

When I saw this I just shook my head. Is there a player that has been more mismanaged by both his coaches/management and his agent? I mean, it is not like the guy is crazy like Milton Bradley, yet he is constantly getting bad press and his agent just flames the situation.

by OB12 on Aug 23, 2010 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously

I read it and just said, " WTF?"

Not sure what else can be said.

by BFDC on Aug 23, 2010 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Man, that is too bad. Damage control!

by robotmadeofnails on Aug 23, 2010 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not exactly sure what Dave Stewart is trying to do here, but it doesn’t figure to do his client any favors. Whenever you slight the fans, things tend to go badly. If he is trying to bully Dodger management into something, I don’t see how this accomplishes it.

by OB12 on Aug 23, 2010 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

For a while I liked Dave

but this is not very smart on his part. Having your clients back is one thing, denigrating the fans that your client pays for is simply not smart. I will now have to make fun of Davids pipsqueak voice. For those who have never heard Dave Stewart speak, think of Mike Tyson.

by meercatjohn on Aug 23, 2010 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also, at least Tyson was banging beauty queens (OK, bad analogy)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 23, 2010 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I guess the intent is to threaten his client leaving via free agency. However he paints himself and his client (by association) in a bad light. Why would he care more about NY’s fans or Atlanta’s fans or Chicago’s fans if he doesn’t care about LA’s? Stewart should want the backing of the fans right now for his client, now not only does he not hustle all the time but his agent doesn’t care for LA or its fans. Way to boost up your client Dave.

by OB12 on Aug 23, 2010 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why would he care more about NY’s fans or Atlanta’s fans or Chicago’s fans if he doesn’t care about LA’s?

I took that as they don’t care about fans period, regardless of who they root for. As in, we’ll play for whoever pays.

An-trade, An-trade an-trade an-trade, An-trade, An-trade.

by G.Scott on Aug 23, 2010 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that is the ultimate message. When his time comes he is going to the highest bidder, the fans don’t factor in. It is something this usually known to be true but rarely uttered by the player or agent. It still doesn’t do anything give Kemp a better image.

by OB12 on Aug 23, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn’t know the man from his playing days, I was too young to remember, but I always respected what he did on the mound. That being said, Dave Stewart is a tool and Matt Kemp needs to find new representation. I hope it isn’t Boras, but I don’t want to dislike Matt Kemp or see him booed because his owner is a dipshit.

An-trade, An-trade an-trade an-trade, An-trade, An-trade.

by G.Scott on Aug 23, 2010 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

owner = agent. Sorry.

An-trade, An-trade an-trade an-trade, An-trade, An-trade.

by G.Scott on Aug 23, 2010 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s from Simers article

by Eric Stephen on Aug 23, 2010 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

My bad I guess...

I ignore Simers and I saw the quote through clicking on a CNN.com article of all places.

by BFDC on Aug 23, 2010 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed. Ever since I heard Simers talk on Dodger Talk a couple weeks ago I refuse to believe anything he says. He has reached Plashke/McCarver/Buck/Morgan/Marriotti status with me.

That being said, what I said about Kemp needing a new agent stands.

An-trade, An-trade an-trade an-trade, An-trade, An-trade.

by G.Scott on Aug 23, 2010 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t put anyone on Mariotti status. Plaschke is actually a good guy and a good writer, he just knows nothing about sports, and McCarver and Buck are just annoying. Mariotti is legitimately a complete piece of shit, a hypocrite, and lacks any and all professionalism.

by oshea2002 on Aug 23, 2010 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve met Bill a couple times, he is a good guy. I just disagree entirely with his perspective on sports.

by oshea2002 on Aug 23, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I imagine that’s how he would act to members of the public when he sees them in person and doesn’t have the blind disinhibited power of mass media.

An-trade, An-trade an-trade an-trade, An-trade, An-trade.

by G.Scott on Aug 23, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nice guy or not, he is not a good writer in either style or the way he analyzes things.

by prosellis on Aug 23, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Everybody is nice sometimes.

by Salty on Aug 23, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

that’s a pretty heavy accusation you’re sending out there, giving someone plaschke status. that’s like the scarlet letter.

by raj m on Aug 23, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dave Stewart is a complete D Bag

What purpose does saying that serve? You’d never hear bs like that from Boras or any other agent with any modicum of class.

by oshea2002 on Aug 23, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

A very interesting read by Biz of Baseball, on the leaked MLB financial docs. A great peek into the books of a few clubs.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 23, 2010 9:31 AM PDT reply actions  

Really interesting

I would LOVE to see the Dodgers financials!

by BFDC on Aug 23, 2010 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

We’ve seen more Dodgers financials in the last year via court documents than most teams release in a lifetime.

An-trade, An-trade an-trade an-trade, An-trade, An-trade.

by G.Scott on Aug 23, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Playing his way out of a job…..that was kind of harsh. I had no idea he was smashing the ball like he is.

by keithc13 on Aug 23, 2010 9:50 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Really?

you simply ignore all my Boom Boom goes the Betemit posts?

by meercatjohn on Aug 23, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I read em

but I never seemed to put it together that he was really doing that well.

It seemed too unlikely that you were serious.

He is putting up stupid numbers right now. It’s not a knock on you, it’s a “I can’t believe Boom Boom is really doing this.”

by keithc13 on Aug 23, 2010 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Newbie

Once upon a time I was the Boom’s Boom’s biggest advocate. When he was traded leaving us with no 3rd baseman, that is what opened the door for the Santana deal and I spent much to much time hating the Betemit/Proctor deal. It is why when someone say Carlos Pena would fit in well they don’t seem to remember that Ned does not grasp OB versus Average. Betemit had some problems but that year he was hitting home runs and walking.

by meercatjohn on Aug 23, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

The worst part about Betemit / Ned in 2006 was when Colletti called Betemit out for being an offensive disappointment when his OPS was 800+.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 23, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I suppose this was 2007, not 2006

by Eric Stephen on Aug 23, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

what’s with Colletti calling out players publicly? Didn’t he start as a beat writer or something?

80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.

by G.Scott on Aug 23, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Life’s ironies. Sometimes, you get the feeling that the universe is listening lol.

80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.

by G.Scott on Aug 24, 2010 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

When he was traded leaving us with no 3rd baseman

Hmm… where have I heard that before?

Suddenly all is clear: In high school, no girl would let Ned get to third base. Now that he is in a position of power, he is going to get his revenge by trading every third baseman in the organization!

And they call him mad!…. Mad!

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 23, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Roger that

I get the love affair now. I am slowly working my way towards other stats besides the ones I followed my whole life.

I had never seen stats like FIP, X-FIP, wOBA and others until I started coming on here. I still don’t really know what those mean, but I am considering learning….

by keithc13 on Aug 23, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Love affair is to strong

I just felt Betemit had more uses then a crappy setup man like Proctor even if his only job was to jack home runs off the bench.

by meercatjohn on Aug 23, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

And for two years

I’ve felt very silly about my rants in favor of Boom Boom, so I’m taking his play this summer to heart.

by meercatjohn on Aug 23, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would never

want a middle of the road reliever over a switchhitting corner IF with pop.

I know he isn’t the greatest “average” guy, but he has use on a team, like you said.

by keithc13 on Aug 23, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was my angry period

before I had to mellow out when I joined TBLA.

by meercatjohn on Aug 23, 2010 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

If he does get non-tendered by the Royals

I hope we pick him up for a bench option or to platoon with Blake or whatever in 2011. I always liked the fact that he could walk with us and he really did have some pretty good pop. I hated that we traded him away when we did.

I’m all for getting him for about 2.5-3 mill and seeing what he can do.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 23, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Russell Martin is a type-A FA.

If we non-tender him, we should also offer him arbitration. (This is a joke.)

by Tripon on Aug 23, 2010 9:51 AM PDT reply actions  

http://www.truebluela.com/2010/8/23/1637552/a-fans-letter-to-vin-scully

So Eric, I gather that tears are okay in the press box, or did you get escorted out?

How strange is our culture/brain that I will tear up simply watching old Dodger highlights, but when watching TV, and find out 1500 Pakistani’s had died in a flood, I have simply no emotional response.

by meercatjohn on Aug 23, 2010 10:14 AM PDT reply actions  

proximity

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 23, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I teared up a few times, no question. When they did the Vin tribute, I applauded from my seat, and Ken Levine got up from his seat to get a better view of the video board while it was playing. He loves Vin, and was so excited.

Yesterday was a fun day.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 23, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

He had a crazy looking baseball tie in the War Room video

by Julio Nievas on Aug 23, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

There is no better kind of uncle. Trust me.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 23, 2010 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

+1

and I have quite a few uncles

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 23, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Especially if you cross him with the drunk uncle. A devastating combo.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 23, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Actually he looks like a drunken Don Henley. “C’mon kid, the Eagles, what you mean you’ve never heard of the Eagles?”

by Little Blue Bicycle on Aug 23, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

You know, The Boys of Summer?! That was me!

An-trade, An-trade an-trade an-trade, An-trade, An-trade.

by G.Scott on Aug 23, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

He used an idea that was already incredibly popular in Japan. Sometimes genius is just knowing when to co-opt someone elses idea and good advertising.

by regfairfield on Aug 23, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

and writing a website thats good enough to do the job

and maintaining said website while cultivating the community.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 23, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh no question, I’m not slagging him, it’s just that striking it big might not be as hard as it seems. Just ask Mark Burnett.

by regfairfield on Aug 23, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

heh

a lot of times its just blind luck, I agree. Being the right person at the right time in the right place.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 23, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

or doing the right person at the right time in the right place.

An-trade, An-trade an-trade an-trade, An-trade, An-trade.

by G.Scott on Aug 23, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Edgar Gonzalez

Welcome your newest Dodger signee, per Rotoworld.

by Little Blue Bicycle on Aug 23, 2010 10:57 AM PDT reply actions  

Adrian Gonzalez’s older brother. Was in Japan this year.

by Tripon on Aug 23, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

The guy that pitched for the D’Backs that we always crushed?

by regfairfield on Aug 23, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, that one. He’s already played in Korea and Mexico this year.

by Little Blue Bicycle on Aug 23, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wait

there’s more than one Edgar Gonzalez?

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 23, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s going to be a long Edgar (Gonzalez) winter

by Eric Stephen on Aug 23, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Do you think he will be Blinded by the Light?

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 23, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Adrian's big brother

Played for the Pads last year, now In Japan

by Little Blue Bicycle on Aug 23, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

interesting blurb from MLBTR
The Dodgers led baseball by spending 224% of their estimated slot on the draft, according to Baseball America. Most clubs spent more than MLB suggested, but only eight exceeded 150% of MLB’s preferred budget.

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 23, 2010 11:04 AM PDT reply actions  

we deserve better!

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 23, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

How much is Crawford gonna make

and how much would you pay for him?

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 23, 2010 11:13 AM PDT reply actions  

5 years/70 million

I wouldn’t do it because the team needs starting pitching over a new outfielder. Robinson and Sands are in the minors, and Paul can be adequate for a half of a season.

by Tripon on Aug 23, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

still wondering

if Sands might make a permanent move to 1B

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 23, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is that taking into account the yankees driving up the bidding?

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 23, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Buster Olney is “sure” Manny will be dealt before August 31. Rays the frontrunner in his opinion.

by LA Taco on Aug 23, 2010 11:23 AM PDT reply actions  

I'm "sure" he should be

we’ll see whether Colletti has the smarts

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 23, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Makes a ton of sense for both teams.

by OB12 on Aug 23, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Too bad

It wasn’t done much sooner, when we could have gotten more than a bone to chew on.

by BFDC on Aug 23, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

when we could have gotten more than a bone to chew on.

If I were TJ Simers - and I am not - I would make a Choking Dogs reference here.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 23, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

sickels on rubby
de la rosa Very intriguing pitcher, yes, althoug his walk rate has shot up in Double-A, granted that’s a big jump from the Midwest League. Yes, I like the grounders with a decent strikeout rate and reports of plus stuff. Comps….I dunno. Grade right now would be in the B range I think, maybe B-, not sure yet. Need to tap Midwest sources.

by npurcell on Aug 23, 2010 11:33 AM PDT reply actions  

blake smith
Smith He’s a prospect due to his power, but his strikeout rate is quite high and he might not hit for much of an average at higher levels. C/C+ prospect.

by npurcell on Aug 23, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

My question!!!

I didn’t expect much else, I’d be cool with a C+ rating.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 23, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

When put together...

about a C+ for Smith and about a B- for Rubby doesn’t quite seem right.

My twitter = @neufaustcan

by uclatroy on Aug 23, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Rubby gets a B

I wonder how many B or B- prospects we’d have.

I’d have to imagine everyone in the top 100 is at least a B- prospect, so if Rubby goes that high, that means we’d have 8 prospects at least at that level. Nice.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 23, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Dodgers B- prospects this year included noted talents like Andrew Lambo, Scott Elbert and Ivan DeJesus.

Ahead of them at B was master of the straight ball Josh Lindblom.

by regfairfield on Aug 23, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ahead of them at B was master of the straight ball Josh Lindblom.

We should rename him Pedro Cerrano.

An-trade, An-trade an-trade an-trade, An-trade, An-trade.

by G.Scott on Aug 23, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is it? How many teams have that many B-minus-or-better prospects? How many can an average team expect?

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by Humma Kavula on Aug 23, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

A top 100 prospect is B+ or higher with a few Bs thrown in.

by regfairfield on Aug 23, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

At the very end I'd have to imagine some are B-s, I'd guess about 15-20 of them or so

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 23, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Glancing through, nope.

by regfairfield on Aug 23, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I could be off (even I am not perfect, crazy as that is), but I really thought not every top 100 prospect would be a B prospect. I’m going to check out the start of the 2010 prospect list and see.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 23, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's excellent fan post Monday on True Blue LA

Little Blue Bicycle provides a first-hand account of his trip to Japan, and watching Eric Stults pitch for the Carp.

http://www.truebluela.com/2010/8/23/1637457/hiroshima-carp-fever-catch-it-or

by Eric Stephen on Aug 23, 2010 11:48 AM PDT reply actions  

that was a fun read

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 23, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

next time you're ready to complain about the 110N headed to a Friday night game

at least you can think, “Hey, at least I’m not going to Beijing”.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100823/sc_afp/chinaroadtraffic

9 day long traffic jams are no bueno.

An-trade, An-trade an-trade an-trade, An-trade, An-trade.

by G.Scott on Aug 23, 2010 12:03 PM PDT reply actions  

I could never deal with that. I would just leave my car and deal with the repercussions.

by BFDC on Aug 23, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Falling Down?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 23, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pretty much. Only without the bag full of guns.

by BFDC on Aug 23, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

where’s the fun in that?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 23, 2010 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I prefer knives.

by BFDC on Aug 23, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

to tell who’s a coward?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 23, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess it would just depend on how the encounter goes with the first store clerk

by robotmadeofnails on Aug 23, 2010 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dang. I wonder how long it took the average person to get to the end of it all.

by robotmadeofnails on Aug 23, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s not stopped traffic, it’s very slow moving. I don’t think the whole freeway is closed. I’ve heard the country has a poor infrastructure as far as highways to support so many people, and this just kind of figures. The problem is they’re fixing a freeway that broke due to high traffic when they really need to build a whole new one. They built the great wall, they should be able to build an I-40.

An-trade, An-trade an-trade an-trade, An-trade, An-trade.

by G.Scott on Aug 23, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Remember how many people had to die to build that wall?

Lets not give them any ideas.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 23, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

do you think they would notice?

80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.

by G.Scott on Aug 23, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

If a million Chinese die constructing a freeway and no one notices...

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 23, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

does it make a sound?

80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.

by G.Scott on Aug 23, 2010 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Loney

I have been a long time supporter but that line (.087/.160/.130/.290) is brutal. Watching inning after inning of runners on base and the heart of the order hitting weak ground balls and taking third strikes is demoralizing.

by preacher roe on Aug 23, 2010 12:10 PM PDT reply actions  

i'm sure everyone's line is similar

so I wouldn’t jump on Loney. Though it seems he probably won’t be developing that power everyone wants from him, at least not with the Dodgers.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 23, 2010 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I bet he could hit 20 for the Brewers.

An-trade, An-trade an-trade an-trade, An-trade, An-trade.

by G.Scott on Aug 23, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

for or against?

for

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 23, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

That he would not. Maybe 1 season he will get lucky and hit 20 or more, but I don’t think he will ever consistently hit more than 13.

by BFDC on Aug 23, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I figure with the way he loves to spray the ball to left along with playing in that division he could probably push for 20.

Let’s trade Loney for Fielder and sign Guillermo Mota in the offseason. BATTLE ROYALE!

An-trade, An-trade an-trade an-trade, An-trade, An-trade.

by G.Scott on Aug 23, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm really not high on Fielder

as I think his weight is gonna become a serious problem for him as he gets older.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 23, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Totally agree. I was kidding about Fielder. But I could see the Brewers dealing him to someone else for prospects then looking around for a MLB first baseman. Maybe in a year we could jump in on that as the third team.

An-trade, An-trade an-trade an-trade, An-trade, An-trade.

by G.Scott on Aug 23, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

like for a stretch run?

assuming the team is within striking distance of the playoffs. What I could maybe see, is the team trading Loney to the Brewers for Fielder(probably not straight up, but this is all just a theory so don’t kill me for it) and have him be that big bat in the lineup for next year while Sands develops in the minors as a 1B. Then when Fielder hits FA, offer him arb(my guess is he’ll be a Type A) and he will obviously not accept as Boras will get him a huge payday from some team. Then hopefully Sands will be ready to take over 1B in 2012

Again, total theory.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 23, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I assume we won't be in contention come July 2011

So if the Brewers deal Fielder to someone else, we send Loney to Milwaukee and we get some of the prospects from the team who got Fielder, that’d be gravy in my book.

An-trade, An-trade an-trade an-trade, An-trade, An-trade.

by G.Scott on Aug 23, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

vegetarian gravy

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 23, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Your theory is baloney!

I’d like to get Fielder, but he will cost 8 trillion dollars plus great prospects to get him…No bueno.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 23, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

why would he cost 8 trillion dollars?

he’s a FA after next year. I’m not suggesting they sign for him(hell i’m not even suggesting they DO what I said. just a potential scenario)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 23, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fielder will likely make at least $15 million next season, if not more. Might as well be 8 trillion.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 23, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

ah yes

I forgot he was still in arb. Again, I wasn’t suggesting the move as I don’t really like Fielder. Dude can hit, but not a fan of his game otherwise.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 23, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m so desperate for any power in the lineup right now I’m willing to be ok with calling up Kyle Russell and to see what kind of damage he could do while breaking the MLB strikeout record in one month.

by prosellis on Aug 23, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

is that the records for strikeouts in a month? or do you think he’d strike out about 250 times in the month he’d play?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 23, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

The latter. Isn’t he striking out like four times per plate appearance?

by prosellis on Aug 23, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had to read that twice

i almost said to ask someone who knows the minor leaguers more. lol.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 23, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Frank McCourt to Ned Coletti over every free agent,
make at least $15 million next season, if not more. Might as well be 8 trillion.

"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson

by Ego Crusher! on Aug 23, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

In his last year or arb I’ll guess he makes at least 12 million dollars, then he will either leave as a FA or command 18 million a year for about 6-8 years. It’s an all lose situation.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 23, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

Eric said he’d probably make about 15 mil next year.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 23, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah ha!

I’ve helped foil your evil plan yet again!

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 23, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

next time Gadget

NEXT TIMEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 23, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I bet he could hit 20 against the Brewers if they played about 30 games.

by Salty on Aug 23, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm ready to ship him off somewhere and wouldn't even be mad to see him get that power

I think it’s going to take a different stadium and different team for him to become a better hitter, I honestly think so.

James seems like a great guy, and I love having him on the team, especially for his defense, but his offense is costing us. Kemp freakin sucks, but at least he’s got 21 homeruns, lol.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 23, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have a comment just below this in which I talk about “the Dodgers’ biggest problems” in terms of their needs…

…but if I take a different way of looking at it, I could probably say that the Dodgers’ biggest problem is that Matt Kemp took a step backwards this year. The Dodgers really needed him to become a homegrown superstar. If that doesn’t happen, if he’s nothing special… that is maybe the biggest problem for the Dodgers going forward.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 23, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I see James Loney as a pretty good 7 hitter.

An-trade, An-trade an-trade an-trade, An-trade, An-trade.

by G.Scott on Aug 23, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

As a first baseman making over 4 million next year he is not.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 23, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I meant it as ‘if he hits anywhere above 7th in the lineup he’s a waste’. The fact that we have a guy with 8 homers hitting 4th or 5th most games is a sign of the times.

An-trade, An-trade an-trade an-trade, An-trade, An-trade.

by G.Scott on Aug 23, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh I see

Yeah, I hate that he’s hitting 4th most of the time.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 23, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

James Loney is a bad player now and his upside is looking more and more limited.

There’s also no better solutions out there for four million.

by regfairfield on Aug 23, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have to believe one of these kids could hit 8 jacks.

An-trade, An-trade an-trade an-trade, An-trade, An-trade.

by G.Scott on Aug 23, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

While hitting .220, sure.

Xavier Paul should be proof that a semi competent prospect can still look really fucking terrible in the bigs.

by regfairfield on Aug 23, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

True

But I’m ready to give minor leaguers a chance at 1B for a much reduced cost and use that extra money elsewhere, like our pitching staff for next season.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 23, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I dunno

For all the grief Loney gets here, I gotta imagine that ANY of the minor leaguers, on Opening Day 2011, will be worse than Loney.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 23, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's what makes this season so depressing.

It’s not like Dodger fans can point to injuries (even though there have been injuries) or bad luck (even though there has been bad luck).

The core didn’t perform. That’s the reason the Dodgers are where they are. There’s nothing to be done for 2011 except buy three SP, then buy a LF or CF if they can afford it, fill out the bench and bullpen, and cross their fingers. Either the core will bounce back or they will not.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 23, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also this

I recall during MLB’s season preview in March or April or whatever, MLBN’s analysts thought the Dodgers would finish in third place because they wouldn’t have the pitching.

Third place looks like it might be doable if they get hot, but I swear, if either of those dudes crow about it, I’m putting my boot through my TV.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 23, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't see anyway they can crow about the pitching

but I can hear Dan Pleasac’s voice right now. Sometimes he’s insightful, but a lot of times he’s just annoying.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 23, 2010 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

The problem with trying to find a replacement for Loney is that we are likely going to need a replacement for Blake next season at some point. Loney is really our only sure thing in the infield, even if that sure thing isn’t very good.

by OB12 on Aug 23, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is kinda the same as the Russell Martin vs a crappy platoon argument

The crappy minor leaguer will likely do as bad or worse, but at a much, much cheaper cost. There lies the silver lining.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 23, 2010 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately the 4ish million you save on Loney isn’t enough to do anything particularly productive.

by regfairfield on Aug 23, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not by itself, no. But non-tender Sherrill (or trade him, his value might actually be coming back to a certain point), non-tender Martin, and trade or non-tender Loney and that’s about 12 million or so saved.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 23, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

12 million saved, but two new holes to plug. I realize those guys shouldn’t be leaving holes that the team couldn’t plug internally, but we don’t have any serious options at either spot.

by prosellis on Aug 23, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really?

Martin and/or Loneys production could be matched for under $5mm total if the right FA’s were signed.

by BFDC on Aug 23, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is nearly impossible IMO

by Eric Stephen on Aug 23, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

You think that now

But no one here would have guessed Miguel Olivo would outperform Martin. He was signed for $2.7mm.

That is one example, but these things happen every year.

by BFDC on Aug 23, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or you could spend that same money on Rod Barajas. Sure you might strike gold, but odds are whoever you get is going to be awful.

by regfairfield on Aug 23, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

What difference does it make? Martin is awful at this point and coming off major injury. Might as well sign someone cheaper.

by BFDC on Aug 23, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because there’s certainly a more awful option. Like Rod Barajas.

by regfairfield on Aug 23, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

at least Martin

can throw someone out.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 23, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

The trick

is knowing which el-cheapo player is gonna be awesome and which are gonna suck.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 23, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Magic

got it

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 23, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jesus, even Yorvit is tied up in 2011. There’s almost no options at first or catcher out there.

http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2001/05/potential-free-agents-for-2011.html

by regfairfield on Aug 23, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think we are all forget an old friend as our catching OR 1B option...

Jason Phillips. You can thank me later ;)

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 23, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Russell Branyan anyone?

That which is in constant motion contains all possible forms.

by Pure Azure on Aug 24, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sure

my only quibble with that comment is the words “as bad or.” Yes, cheaper, but also almost certainly worse, and possibly much, much worse.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 23, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

See “how bad could it get without Martin?”

by regfairfield on Aug 23, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Catcher is different though since there are so few decent ones out there to begin with.

by OB12 on Aug 23, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

If we had traded Martin and had the money freed up I’d be perfectly fine with the catching situation.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 23, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

shoulda coulda woulda

gonna wanna shounna

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 23, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where were we going with this again? :P

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 23, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

probably to me saying something

about weeping over wasted dairy products.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 23, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol, well played, Mauer.

You know what’s funny? The newest Futurama was seriously great, but when I was watching it, I told my friend it reminded me of the episode with the 300 dollar tax rebates, because both episodes have each characters story for a bit, which is great. I go to watch some episodes last night, and the episode on right before the new one on Thursday (which I had recorded) was that same episode.

Do I know Futurama or what, lol.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 23, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know, they could probably get someone like Hank Blalock for next to nothing and he might do OK.

by OB12 on Aug 23, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Blalock was terrible this year and is basically immobile. He’d be a two win downgrade probably.

Teams are well aware of the concept of replacement level and pretty much anyone that could play in the bigs is.

by regfairfield on Aug 23, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Honestly, Loney is playing just about as bad as any player has in the entire MLB over the last couple of months

would it be so bad if a guy making 400,000 was doing the same thing but we had that financial flexibility? At least we’d be able to say “well, at least we know he sucks, we don’t have to get our hopes up that he could be really good.”

That’s awful, but I’d prefer that with the extra money to what we’ve got now.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 23, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

What's sad

is that for the past few years, even the most milquetoast of Loney defenders, like myself, could say, hey stop picking on Loney. He’s cheap and he’s OK enough. He’s by no means the club’s biggest problem, and he’s still young enough that he could develop into Mark Grace.

Now, a few years have gone by, and he’s gonna make $4.5 million or so next year, and he’s having his worst year in the majors….

…and he is still not the biggest problem on the Dodgers — not when they need three starting pitchers and are saying with a straight face that they might start Xavier Paul in LF. I wish I had a slugging first baseman, too, but what to do about first base has got to be sixth or seventh or eighth on the Dodgers’ list of question marks, and they’ll run out of money before they get to it.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 23, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like I said

I wonder if they’ll start playing Sands at 1B exclusively to see how he can handle it day in and day out. I’ve heard he’s a good defensive 1B, and if he brings that bat of his…

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 23, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

After seeing Loney light up AAA, after getting super-pissed at the Nomar re-signing because, in my words, “Loney has nothing left to prove,” I’m gonna wait a bit on Sands.

Not saying he’s not a prospect. He is a good prospect.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 23, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Moving Sands to 1B seems like a good idea. I think I would even be willing to let go of Loney and go with a Gibbons/Mitchell platoon for half a season while Sands gets some time there. I highly doubt we replace Loney, he seems to be well liked.

by OB12 on Aug 23, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Since the season is shot anyway, I only root for Loney now to end his season with five more home runs, 18 more RBI, and 139 more PA.

That way, he would have three straight seasons of 651 PA, 13 HR, and 90 RBI.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 23, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

18 RBI in 40 games? I’ll be happy if we score 18 runs period in 40 games.

An-trade, An-trade an-trade an-trade, An-trade, An-trade.

by G.Scott on Aug 23, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even less..it's 37 games left

In the team’s last 37 games, Loney has played 36 (started 34), and put up a .198/.255/.305.

141 PA (2 more than needed. Close!)
2 HR (needs a power surge)
9 RBI (yikes)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 23, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

2 HR (needs a power surge)
9 RBI (yikes)

We are playing 3 games this week in Road Loney’s home park.

An-trade, An-trade an-trade an-trade, An-trade, An-trade.

by G.Scott on Aug 23, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

That would be epic. I had a post with a week before the end of last season about how Loney was having the same basic season as the year before, and it’s seemingly going to be for 3 straight years now, lol.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 23, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

If he could find a way to negate 2 of his steals, it’s on.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 23, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

If we could find a way to combine his two years into one, we’d have an ok first baseman. (Ignore the ridiculous 180 RBIs in 1302 ABs)

An-trade, An-trade an-trade an-trade, An-trade, An-trade.

by G.Scott on Aug 23, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why

whhyyyy did he have to become such a speed demon!!!

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 23, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it's more outguessing than speed

they don’t think he’s gonna run, and then he does. I also think that’s part of the reason Kemp’s base stealing has regressed (notice i said PART). Teams just expect he’s gonna run now, so they watch him closer.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 23, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is why we should have traded him last year

His value was higher, teams would have thought he had more “upside” and we likely could have replenished other holes/needs. For the money Loney is about to be paid there are numerous options and/or platoon parts.

by BFDC on Aug 23, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it sure looks like I was wrong.

I don’t know that I was a Loney BELIEVER so much as I was willing to stick with the guy and see if he could develop, because the team had other problems.

In retrospect, the team would be better if they’d made the change. Again, he’s still not the team’s biggest problem, but that’s only because of the magnitude of the team’s other problems.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 23, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

The saddest part

is up till the all star break he was looking pretty solid. Then he absolutely cratered.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 23, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damon claimed by Red Sox
2:51pm: Damon told Ed Price of AOL FanHouse he’s not inclined to go back to Boston (Twitter link).

“not inclined” sounds like “what will you give me to waive my no trade clause”.

from MLBTR

An-trade, An-trade an-trade an-trade, An-trade, An-trade.

by G.Scott on Aug 23, 2010 12:54 PM PDT reply actions  

So the article my buddy wrote on the 30 best players in baseball is up. Yeah, I know Heyward and Strasberg are too low:

by regfairfield on Aug 23, 2010 1:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Bottom line:

The Dodgers young nucleus turned out to be a bunch of underachieving head cases and management traded away our top prospects for aging players who don’t take shit seriously. No wonder Jeff Kent was always pissed off!! This team will be blown up and McCourt should sell high right now!

Only players worth a damn are Ethier, Kershaw and Billingsley. Maybe Kuo, but he’ll blow that arm out soon enough.

Sincerly,

PO’d Dodgers fan!

"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson

by Ego Crusher! on Aug 23, 2010 1:33 PM PDT reply actions  

the Dodger.com board

is thataway

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 23, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s amazing how quickly ridiculous hyperbole can become totally accurate.

by regfairfield on Aug 23, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL. Sad but true.

by LA Taco on Aug 23, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m glad you’re not our GM, you’d seriously undersell Broxton and Kemp.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 23, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought you where Tripon for a second

lol

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 23, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eric, may I employ your Uncle Google powers?

it was stated before the season that the Dodgers have never made the playoffs three times in a row. The previous times they went back to back and then missed the next year, how did they do the following year?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 23, 2010 1:44 PM PDT reply actions  

They didn’t make the playoffs in that 3rd year :)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 23, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

i know

i meant more

playoffs→playoffs→missed→?

is what I meant.

or is that what you meant too?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 23, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll answer

Last time they went back-to-back was 1995-6. In 1997, they went 88-74 and finished 2nd of 4.

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by Humma Kavula on Aug 23, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Prior to that

After the 1977-78 teams went to the WS, the 1979 team finished 79-83, 3rd place of 6.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 23, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

my question

was more for how they did in 98 and 80

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 23, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

and I know what happended in 81

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 23, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was born :)

"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson

by Ego Crusher! on Aug 23, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

happy birthday

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 23, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

1998: 83-79, 3rd place of 5

1980: 92-71, 2nd place of 6

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by Humma Kavula on Aug 23, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Worth noting:

Brooklyn:

52: lost WS
53: lost WS
54: 2nd place
55: won WS
56: lost WS
57: 3rd place

moved to LA

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 23, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

ask Phil about that 1980 season.

Unbelievable final weekend.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 23, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

30 years ago the greatest final weekend

in the history of the Los Angeles Dodgers occurred, laying a foundation for the 1981 World Championship.

by meercatjohn on Aug 23, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can still see the clip of Joe Ferguson chucking his helmet around 3B on his game-winning HR.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 23, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah,

him and Cey, I think we shall recreate the final game for blogging fun since our final game is not going to mean jack shit.

Everyone was a hero that final weekend except Goltz. While everyone was doing their best during the weekend he was conjuring up ways to make the Dodgers pay for making him wealthy.

by meercatjohn on Aug 23, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

The 1965-66 Dodgers went to the WS, then finished in 8th place of 10, 73-89.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 23, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thats in the memory banks?

Matt Kemp - Bringer of drought, puncher of babies faces(ugly ones killed on site), not Larry Bowa's GUY

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 23, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

1967 had some interesting stuff though

A great series with Gibson vs. Lonborg in game 7. Conigliaro getting beaned. A 15 inning All star game.

Plus, Sgt Pepper!

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Aug 23, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pujols just hit HR #399, an absolute bomb to CF in PIT.

This is his 10th season.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 23, 2010 4:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Beast

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 23, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope to god...

He doesn’t ever come up dirty!

"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson

by Ego Crusher! on Aug 23, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Always best not to get your hopes up

by Eric Stephen on Aug 23, 2010 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shut your dirty mouth!

lol

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 23, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

lmao

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 23, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope like everyone else

that he is clean, but I am not naive enough to say he is clean.

by keithc13 on Aug 23, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pujols is like BASF

He doesn’t take steroids, he takes steroids and makes them better

by Eric Stephen on Aug 23, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is it live or is it Memorex?

Is it Al or is it HGH?

by keithc13 on Aug 23, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Beast!

He’s been my favorite player since 2002, and he’s just pure awesome. From his first AB this season he clinched HOF status.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 23, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can haz Pujols pleaz?

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1177&position=1B

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 24, 2010 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Courtesy of Dodgers.com Shop, an ample summary of the 2010 Dodgers

I’m at work so let me know if the image worked.

80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.

by G.Scott on Aug 23, 2010 4:41 PM PDT reply actions  

love the Manny Ramirez trash can. Clearly, Larry bowa did not design it or Matt Kemp would be on it.

80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.

by G.Scott on Aug 23, 2010 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh come on. You can make a better Matt Kemp/trash can joke.

Here’s one:

“Man, if they really want to sell these, they should put Kemp on it. Matt Kemp moves trash cans!”

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Aug 23, 2010 4:44 PM PDT