Milwaukee Brewers - Another Also Ran Edition
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 24, 2010 9:11 AM PDT
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PrintIt has been so long since we last played the Brewers a whole summer has passed us by. The Brewers came into town on May 4th, and proceeded to crush our vaunted duo of Kershaw and Billingsley on back to back nights leaving the Dodgers at 11 - 16. From that point the Dodgers would win 11 of their next 12 but as we know that was the highlight of the year. Kershaw has been brilliant since that drubbing, while Chad has been solid but nothing close to brilliant. just this side brilliant.
Just like the Dodgers, the Brewers had post - season aspirations, hoping to be led by the what they considered the best one - two punch in baseball. However the Hebrew Hammer has had his normal carpenter hammer replaced with a ping hammer, and at the moment has only 18 home runs. Now 18 home runs may sound like a decent number but when you consider that Braun has hit no fewer then 32 over the last three years it is a pittance. The fact he is fifth on the team in home runs is the biggest shocker. Fielder you'd expect, but Corey Hart, Rickie Weeks, and even Casey McGehee have managed out homer Braun so far in 2010.
The Brewers hit a lot of home runs and lead the league in both home runs and slug% even though only Corey Hart has a slug % over .500. That is right, the vaunted duo of Fielder/Braun have yet to crack the .500 slug% this year. Still the Brewers also lead the league in wOBA at .339. So they are doing plenty of things right in the land of cheese except winning.
Why? I guess pitching is the problem. They rank near the last in ERA, FIP, and xFIP. Randy Wolf evidently did not solve that pesky rotation problem, and Trevor Hoffman finally ran out of whatever he had that has been mesmerizing hitters for the last 20 years or so. The current rotation of Gallardo, Wolf, Parra, Narveson, and Bush is just not getting it done. Which is a shame because even with Braun losing his God like ability to hit the baseball, the Brewers are a fine offensive club.
So as these two teams clash in a meaningless August series we have the best pitching in the NL taking on the best hitting in the NL.
Manager: Ken Macha (59-65)
Scored 589 runs, Allowed 661 runs. Pythagorean W-L: 55-69
They beat the Padres two out of three and have won four their last five.
Home/Road
Split W L RS RA WP
Home 30 32 275 348 .484
Road 29 33 314 313 .468
Position Breakdown:
1st Base- Prince Fielder is having his even year which for him, and Brewer fans is not a good thing. Since joining the Brewers on a full time basis Fielder has had an OPS over 1.000 every odd year while putting up an OPS below .900 every even year. It is odd
2nd Base- Rickie Weeks is finally giving everyone a view of what he can do over a full season when healthy. For the first time in his six year career he will garner over 500 at bats, and he's making the most of them. With 23 home runs he's 2nd in NL second baseman.
SS- Alcides Escobar has to be a huge disappointment for Brewer fans. No one was expecting Robin Yount but I don't think anyone was also expecting the worst offensive performance of a NL SS. His wOBA of .283 says it all. The man can't get on base enough to help out an offense that loves to hit home runs. If had had been able to manage a decent OB, this team might be off the chart when it comes to scoring runs.
3rd Base- Casey McGehee was having a strong start to his 2010 season when we last saw him, and while he's come down to earth, he's still way over performing any realistic expectations anyone had for him. Only three 3rd baseman have been better then Casey this year (Zimmerman, Wright, Rolen) and instead of falling back, he's having a kick ass August, with a .433 wOBA.
Catcher- Gregg Zaun is down so Jonathan Lucroy and George Kottaras are sharing the job. Neither can hit so they are kind of close to the Barajas/Ausmus/Ellis backstops we will send out.
CF- Carlos Gomez started the season as the starting CF but he seems to have been supplanted by Lorenzo Cain. Cain like Gomez is a speedy CF, with little power. He showed some plate discipline in the minors but so far has left that skill behind in AAA. Chris Dickerson acquired from the Reds for Jim Edmonds will also get some playing time.
LF- Ryan Braun, the former Granada Hills Highlander, is the Brewers franchise player. Braun had a great start but has been seen his ops Slug% fall from .581 in April, to .486 in May, to .409 in June, to .381 in July. Part of his might be due to some injuries, particularly the wrist. He's bouncing back in August and might end the season on a tear, normalizing his season to what one would expect of Braun.
RF- Corey Hart was a seasonal disappointment headed into 2010 who could have been had for a small price in the winter of 2009/2010. Now however he's a hot commodity as he finally put all his skills on display and has given the Brewers another weapon on a team that already has plenty of offensive weapons. Hart been the best hitter on the Brewers. If Fielder/Braun had had normal years the the trio of Hart/Braun/Fielder was have been something to behold. Hart is firmly in the conversation when talking about the best right fielders in the NL.
Starting Pitching for our Series:
Game 1- David Bush gets the call in game one. If the Dodgers can't score against Bush they will have little chance on Thursday Night against Gallardo. Bush doesn't even crack 87MPH anymore, he has an assortment of pitches, including a slider, curveball, cutter, and change up. His TSL is 4.63/5.03/4.94
Game 2- Randy Wolf, he of the heated arbitration debate gets a chance to pitch against the most anemic offense since the 2003 Dodgers. Wolf has not earned his contract, and has made Michael White righter then he has ever been on any subject. Wolf's TSL is 4.67/5.13/5.00. He is however having a solid August.
Game 3-Yovanni Gallardo is by far the best pitcher on the Brewers, and one of the best young pitchers in baseball. Below is a list of pitchers age 25 and younger who have thrown at least 450 innings.
Rk Player ERA+ IP From To Age OPS OPS+
2 Felix Hernandez 129 1017.2 2006 2010 20-24 .683 83
3 Matt Cain 126 1002.0 2006 2010 21-25 .684 81
4 Jair Jurrjens 125 523.2 2007 2010 21-24 .693 88
5 Yovani Gallardo 118 462.2 2007 2010 21-24 .686 87
6 John Danks 118 702.2 2007 2010 22-25 .716 86
7 Chad Billingsley 116 780.0 2006 2010 21-25 .706 92
8 John Lannan 102 521.1 2007 2010 22-25 .757 105
9 Johnny Cueto 100 489.2 2008 2010 22-24 .775 107
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used
Generated 8/24/2010.
Bullpen:
Hoffman has been supplanted by John Axford who is doing his best Carlos Marmol imitation with a double digit K/Rate along with a walk rate of 6.35. Todd Coffey looks to have the best skills in the bullpen and will try to get the lead to Axford.
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I'm a little consfused here
Kershaw has been brilliant since that drubbing, while Chad has been solid but nothing close to brilliant.
Chad has been very, very good since that May 5th start. Not as good as Kershaw, but pretty much slightly less good, just with less strikeouts.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Agreed to a point
I think you are being overly sensitive though. Perhaps Phil was thrown by Bills’ two starts giving up 7 runs since the Milwaukee game. Kershaw has been better, but Bills has still been very good since the Milwaukee series:
CK: 20 starts, 6.68 IP/start, 10-6, 2.63 ERA, 2.85 FIP, 1.145 WHIP
CB: 18 starts, 6.33 IP/start, 8-5, 3.32 ERA, 3.15 FIP, 1.246 WHIP
Most impressive have been the unintentional walk rates by both:
Bills: 2.76 UIBB/9
Kershaw: 2.83 UIBB/9
by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions
He's got 3.3 WAR on the season
ERA+ is almost exactly as useful as ERA alone, which is not really at all.
8-5 3.32 ERA .247/.311/.347 97 Ks 36 BBs 106 hits 5 HR in 114 Innings since that start. That’s a 3.15 FIP in that time frame.
I just calculated the FIP before I saw that you had already done that, so thanks for doing the work for me before hand.
Phil, you were going off of his season numbers and using a stat that really doesn’t show much of anything. There may be some things I’m a homer on, but I’ve been following Kershaw and Billingsley like a hawk since those Milwaukee starts, I know they’ve both been exceptional since.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Not sensative, I just find it odd that one of our own writers is selling one of the only great things we could hang out hat on this season short. I think people may just be in the mode that since the offense sucks, and the bullpen can’t do anything anymore (seemingly), that they are just starting to think there is nothing good on this team.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Oh so you can take away all the bad stuff you ever said about me when I do you a favor
but that doesn’t stop you from saying anything after :P
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
it's a blank slate
like new-fallen snow on a hill, like having a fresh sheet a paper to write on.
It’s a magical world Ivdown
let’s go exploring.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
wow
that was simply Hobbesian
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 24, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
but sadly
i don’t have retractable claws
(looks at hands and sighs)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
but luckily
you’re real to more than one person
(yay!)
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 24, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
i wonder sometimes
(kidding)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Something about this is very nice, haha.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
never read Calvin and Hobbes Ivy?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Not since I was a kid
My grandma always had them at her house, but I haven’t read it for years and years.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
my post
was pretty much the dialouge of the very last comic he did.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
It looks brilliant
Here I was thinking you were the brilliant one, but all you know how to do is steal peoples ideas!
Thief!
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Evil
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh yeah, I should have expected that
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Your such a homer.
Chad has an ERA+ of 104 for the season.
Of course as Eric notes below my “solid” should have been changed to “very very good”.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
It’s funny because when I first read it, I wanted to defend Chad too, but then I see you said “solid”, and I can live with that.
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 24, 2010 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Also, damnit, I've started to read your preview, I was hoping not to just to spite you :P
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
RE: Escobar
It’s clear in reading these previews all year that there are a ton of light hitting shortstops. The days of Nomar, A-Rod, Jeter and Tejada are over. Kind of makes sense why Gordon is rated so highly (assuming he does have the tools to be an adequate defensive shortstop) and really makes one appreciate what LAD has (had I guess) in Furcal.
If they steal two
they are sweeping.
Today’s game is in the bank
by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions
I got a buck on the side with both of you on today’s game.
by Michael White on Aug 24, 2010 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions
I want in
$ TBLA Dollar for each of these
1. Bush outlasts Lilly
2. Lilly does not qualify for the win
3. Braun hits at least home run
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
1 and 2 will happen just because its 2010 for the Dodgers
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
To have some fun for the rest of the year
we should do this every game.
Is David still collecting a check from us?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 24, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Lilly comes crashing to earth today
bet he does not get out of the 4th inning.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Lilly exists to erase Kaz Ishii from the Dodger record books.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions
That is my opinion exactly.
MIL is the park where pitchers go to regress… or something like that.
by Michael White on Aug 24, 2010 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Braun is just starting to heat up.
he is going to batter Lilly.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Ha
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 24, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
On the plus side maybe it's also then the park where hitters go to
wake up. Too late to help the Dodgers’ season but wouldn’t be surprised to see the bats wake up here. Too bad Raffy’s not around though.
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Good Lord
I’m not sure which will be worse: watching Dusty ruin Kershaw’s arm, or listening to Rick Monday tell us that it’s all Kershaw’s fault as he extols the virtues of Johnnie B.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Aug 24, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Braun
Braun had a great start but has been seen his ops fall from .581 in April, to .486 in May, to .409 in June, to .381 in July.
That should be something other than ops, right? Slugging maybe?
yes, thanks for that catch.
Glad to see someone is reading:)
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by Phil Gurnee on Aug 24, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Heh. Can’t complain about lack of reading on this one as people are disputing the use of solid vs. very very good and actually discussing/wagering on the upcomingi series.
by Michael White on Aug 24, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
White Sox apparently want Manny
Source: #WhiteSox plan to claim Manny. Story soon on FOXSports.com.
http://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/22014531876
“Ken Williams is pushing all his chips on getting Manny Ramirez,’’ – a major-league source. According to the source, Williams thinks the addition of Manny would be a boost to the entire team.
beat me too it
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Jeez
good thing they got rid of all those no defense, can’t run guys. Somewhere, Jermaine Dye is pissed off, Orlando Hudson is calling Kenny Williams a racist and Torii Hunter is complaining that another fake black guy is taking a job over an actual one.
80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.
Wow. Great. Would they actually give something up for him?
by Michael White on Aug 24, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think it would hurt to look at their farm system to see what they could trade to the Dodgers.
Do you know how much of a win for us it will be if we get John Ely or Jon Link II for 90 days of Manny Ramirez?
Personally, anything we get back beyond the 3mil is gravy.
80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.
What did the dodgers give up for Thome last year? Nobody even remembers. It is going to be the same type of player.
I think it’s slightly different as Thome was leaving the AL and the DH when all he could be was a pinch hitter for the Dodgers. Manny can leave the NL and become a DH.
I think there’s more value involved than the name of the player.
Nonetheless, I don’t expect too much. This is all assuming Manny wants to play in Chicago.
I'm just excited about the 3 million
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
Ain't going in your pockets
what do we care if the Dodgers save 3 Million this year?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 24, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
I have a misguided hope
that it will be used to better the team next year.
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
They have a little.
The White Sox want Manny and think they need him. Manny staying on the Dodgers is bad for the White Sox. I imagine there is a small price they would be willing to pay in order to make sure that the transaction goes smoothly.
Not a huge price. They’re not nuts. But a small one, sure.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Aug 24, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
so what's more likely?
A trade, or the Dodgers just give him up?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
I bet its a trade, but for a fringe prospect.
by CarolinaDodger on Aug 24, 2010 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Flowers?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
sarcasm?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
O key stuck?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
ghost in denial?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Nedenezer Colletti?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
who’s that?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
The bastard who got us Jeff Shaw for Dennys Reyes and Paul Konerko.
80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.
oh
boooooooooo
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
one trapped in a fleshy shell
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Manny doesn't bring us Flowers...
…..anymore.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Aug 24, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
We traded Jhonny Nunez for the greatest Dodger ever, if we get him back for the second best we win!
by regfairfield on Aug 24, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
I'd be happy with that
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 24, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Ned has to be careful
He is almost certainly going to be getting pressure to lose Manny’s salary. On the other hand, it would be nice to get ANYTHING for Manny.
Colletti and Williams will have a conversation, but it has to be realistic — as Carolina suggests, a fringe prospect. If Colletti asks too much, Williams will call Colletti’s bluff, and the Dodgers will be stuck with Manny — and I believe if that happens, there will be an angry call from Mr. McCourt on line one.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Aug 24, 2010 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Mannywood ends on a whimper
just as Gibsons reign ended, and Jimmy Wynn’s. As it always is, it shall always be.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
This has all happened before, and it will all happen again.
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
Whimper
The man had it wrong. August is the cruellest month.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Aug 24, 2010 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
hopefully in his last game
he hits three home runs, and pimps the shit out of the last one, as it’s a game winner.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
By the way, Eric
Just wondering what you think about the new song from Cee-Lo.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
New song isn’t as good as “I wish I was a little bit taller”
by Michael White on Aug 24, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Eric might like it though
considering his catchphrase.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Aug 24, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Wrong Person, unless you are all joking
“a little bit taller” was Skee-Lo and that was a novelty song, he never had another hit.
Cee-Lo is from Goodie Mob (also appeared on many Outkast tracks), his own solo albums (which are excellent) and most recently was one half of Gnarls Barkley.
haha thank you, that's what I thought
I thought i was going crazy.
80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.
Haha. I made the same mistake as Mike.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Damn
I am all alone then in confusing my “rappers that end in Lo”
by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
is that anything
like being Ronery?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
At first I couldn’t remember if it was Skee Lo who had that song or Too Short. I had to look up wikipedia before dropping in my joke.
by Michael White on Aug 24, 2010 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I haven’t heard it yet (I will later today), but I agree with Mike. No way he reaches those heights again.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
What is a Cee-Lo?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 24, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Heh.
It is a catchy song while listening to it. But there is no hook to it. An hour after my initial listen, I couldn’t for the life of me recall how the damn thing went.
The White Sox
outfield on one bizarre day could actually be Manny/Pierre/Jones
That is so strange on a so many levels because the team with that trio of players is actually playing for a post season berth.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
If they do good would we then be able to claim a part of anything that they win since we would be paying for their outfield?
I know
right. Bloody weird.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 24, 2010 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
I have to admit
even though that would be odd and on some level even disturbing to we Dodger fans, it would also make me chortle. Just by the sheer weirdness of it all.
Then the White Sox should trade for Jason Repko and he can injury all three of them in a warm up accident.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
injure, that is.
Repko is Polish word for “Human Bowling Ball”
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I was hoping this generate some comments
Wolf has not earned his contract, and has made Michael White righter then he has ever been on any subject.
Did anyone read down that far?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I read it, but since you were putting it down for me I didn’t feel any additional gloating on my part was necessary :)
by Michael White on Aug 24, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Did you end up seeing the mini-riff yesterday on your email address? That was fun. :)
by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Best riff of the year
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 24, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Check it out
it is, at the end of the thread.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 24, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
it is?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
time to stop now?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Mack?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Those were fantastic.
The blocktheplateruss email address was my favorite.
by Michael White on Aug 24, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
i did
i figured the man himself should comment on that.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
I guess Theology School is tougher then I expected.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I like to imagine Tennessee as a zombie land
but replace the zombies with meth addled hillbillies. I but Maddz is running from safehouse to safehouse desperately trying to find internet.
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
all the internet
is down Californiy way.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
What show was that
where everyone had to go to California to get internet?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 24, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
South Park
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Right, now it all comes back to me.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 24, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
I think I laughed harder at that episode
because I used to have one of those routers that was “the internet”. Right when I saw it I said to myself, “Oh, I know how this is gonna get resolved.”
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
I think it is a universal truth
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
Armed with the axe. Melee all the way, homie.
Leading the league in OMGs || Proud owner of a Chad Billingsley Real Doll
I…I don’t know what that means :(
Leading the league in OMGs || Proud owner of a Chad Billingsley Real Doll
Sorry I just started playing Diablo II. The vernacuular is starting to stick in my head like a brain slug.
80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.
Hahaha
how’s the utter destruction of your life game treating you?
Leading the league in OMGs || Proud owner of a Chad Billingsley Real Doll
Oh, I played WoW for 3 years and it destroyed me. Ultimately got kicked out of college for missing too many classes. All worked out though, valuable life lesson. Diablo II at least for me is just a free time entertainment exploit so it won’t be taking over my life again.
80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.
You did the Grand Marshall grind, didn’t you?
Leading the league in OMGs || Proud owner of a Chad Billingsley Real Doll
no I was level 46 and an ubernoob when BC came out. But when BC came out I started raiding 3-6 hours a day 7 days a week then pvp until whenever I fell asleep at my computer. I was playing college ball at the time and I eventually started a crazy cycle of Sleep, practice/game, gf, WoW. Needless to say, grades became a problem.
Would rather not talk about it.
80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.
Ahhh.
I raided in BC too. I understand. :)
Leading the league in OMGs || Proud owner of a Chad Billingsley Real Doll
I raided BC and WotLK until every new boss in Wrath was something I had seen before in every dungeon of every past expansion. I think the last thing I did was heroic 25 man Crusader something or other. That, and I couldn’t stand being a competent young 20’s athlete playing with punk 14 year olds and 40 year old ex-military guys collecting their welfare and yelling at everyone because their pixelated armor wasn’t super cool enough for them.
It was what I imagine Larry Bowa managing the Padres would be like.
80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.
I bet you can guess
what class/race I used to be. :)
Leading the league in OMGs || Proud owner of a Chad Billingsley Real Doll
I officially have no idea what you are talking about, but I miss Team Fortress Classic (TFC)
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 24, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
I imagine Bowa managing the Padres to be like this
by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
1989 was probably the worse of the two, but I love that set because it was the set which had the 1988 Dodgers.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
I knew Maddz should have stayed and gone to our school :)
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 24, 2010 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm alive!
I promise. Things are just hectic and crazy and my computer’s power supply is on the fritz so I don’t always have it. Once I nail my schedule down (and people stop insisting I be social, GOSH), I’ll have more time to post.
Don’t act like you aren’t enjoying the lack of off topic commentary. ;)
Leading the league in OMGs || Proud owner of a Chad Billingsley Real Doll
MADDZ LIVES!!!!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Reg texted me to tell me that y’all thought I was dead. :)
I am not a zombie. Yet. :D
Leading the league in OMGs || Proud owner of a Chad Billingsley Real Doll
Too bad. If you were z ombie you should move to Minnesota
http://www.startribune.com/local/101273159.html
“Minneapolis will pay $165,000 to zombies”
80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.
how else
do you explain the biting of innocents?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
You weren’t here on the epic movie thread day
by Julio Nievas on Aug 24, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
ha
that was some fun.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
If Ned is going to put Manny on waiver
or already had, would it make sense to even play him, since he could get hurt while we are trying to move him?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I think if he plays well you would think his value would be higher. Perceived value anyway.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Is Manny
Still having problems with the high heat?
If so, he might do pretty well against the Brewers, as he will face two soft tossers in Dave Bush and Randy Wolf.
he's only been back one game
we’ll see
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
As a fantasy owner that kept Manny in the DL spot, which team would be better for his offense?
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 24, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
WS, Rays only have the Yankee's above them
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 24, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Sox have priority
but the waiver process is like this.
1) player placed on waivers
2) teams have 48 hours to place claims. All 29 teams can place claims
3) once the 48 hours are up, if more than one team has placed a claim, it goes by reverse order of record, but the same league gets first dibs
In the case of Manny, all 15 other NL teams have priority over all AL teams, for instance.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
The only teams I can see putting in a claim are the White Sox, Rangers, and Rays. It seems doubtful that any NL teams would claim him given that he is basically a DH these days.
I would have to think that the White Sox and the Rays would be the best fit. And between those two I think the Rays would be helped the most by him.
Tend to agree, except that the jump from no playoffs to playoffs is the biggest gain. Not that Manny alone would make up the White Sox current deficit, but he could help greatly.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Ok, but how big of a slap in the face would it be if the Giants picked him up and stuck him at 1B or even off the bench.
80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.
Manny has a no-trade clause
So he would probably just veto that.
They already have 6 OFs
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
What about
the Padres? Get a big bat off the bench to strengthen their roster…
Leading the league in OMGs || Proud owner of a Chad Billingsley Real Doll
Tough to see Manny approving that deal.
His best bet is to go to the AL, so he can play everyday and (attempt to) mash. That’s the only way he can drum up interest for next season, or at least pad any type of contract he hopes to receive.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Wouldn’t Manny in SD as the LF with playoff exposure be more valuable to him than in LA as the LF and nothing past 162 games? Or would SD only use him as a PH?
Lots of two letter acronyms there :)
by CarolinaDodger on Aug 24, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Manny can’t play the outfield often enough to matter
by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
But I guess my point is that he can play the OF as much in SD as he can in LA, can’t he? So that shouldn’t be a reason he’d veto a trade.
Point taken about the bigger OF though.
by CarolinaDodger on Aug 24, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t see the Padres claiming him though. Manny would have the option to wait for a trade to an AL team.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
if he were to clear waivers (which he apparently won’t)
by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
not in the AL anyway
Rays might need a strategic losing streak,
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Also...
Manny rejecting the trade wouldn’t keep SD from claiming him would it? Worst case, they block him from a potential world series opponent. Best case, they have more offense.
by CarolinaDodger on Aug 24, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Can’t see them risking spending $3.6 million for Jim Thome II
by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Good news for Eric Gordon
Rajon Rondo was the final cut for USA Basketball. I wonder if they just had all 13 players shoot free throws, and the first 12 to make it made the team :)
I heard they played around the world and he couldn’t get past the free throw line.
80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.
He actually went around the world with Taylor Dayne and he-ee-eeeeeee, couldn’t find his baby.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
lol
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't look forward to reading
how Gordon tore his ACL during the tournament.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 24, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
What if he forces his way into the lineup and puts up 20 a game?
I’ve always rooted for the Lakers, but more than wanting the Lakers to beat Team X for the championship, I’ve wanted a legitimate, long-term rivalry between the Clippers and Lakers.
80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.
no offense
but the Clippers need to be better for that to happen.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
i said no offense mike
acknowledge my disclaimer!!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
thanks
i’ve been wanting to have one, but I couldn’t think of a good one. Then this one just came to me. Love that movie.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
starting from the bottom up!
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I thought it was interesting
that they could only have one unsuccesful challenge. As in, if they get the call overturned, they still have the challenge, if not, no more challenge.
it won’t fly in the bigs i think, but still interesting.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
I can’t stand the strike zone in little league
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 24, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
The corners are so huge too. Even at my friends son’s game it was driving me nuts. How do you coach a kid to be a good hitter when you are calling stuff 6-8 inches off the plate. I can understand some freedom because a game would take forever, but some of the stuff is just not good for teaching players to be good hitters…but walks are definitely not sexy in little league
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 24, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
When I coached 10-12yos this past season
I had our catcher setup down the middle every pitch with the theory that the pitcher would miss by 6-8 inches in either direction and constantly be living on the corners.
Needless to say, I was right.
80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.
I got really worked up at one of the games, not yelling or anything, just feeling the stress when the ump ruled a run as not counting when the 3rd out was made by a live ball appeal after the runner did not tag up. He kept calling it a continuation of the force out, and I finally just asked him to look it up after the game
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 24, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I bet he didn’t.
I only really got frustrated when ball bag little league dads who thought they knew the game would talk trash from the other dugout when we said nothing. I, having the upmost class and self control, would wait until the next inning and go coach the opposite base and give em the old Eric Stephen Special.
80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.
brewcrew fan thoughts
FIelder does have that odd pattern. He was obviously frustrated when the team was basically dropping out of contention and gave away a lot of at bats. He’s hitting much better lately.
I find the comment about McGehee humorous. What would “realistic” expectations be based on?
I don’t find Escobar hugely disappointing. He’s got excellent defense and great contact ability. He didn’t seem to adapt to hitting in front of the pitcher. A nice player on a team that doesn’t need a lot of slugging. I expect him to hit near .300 without many BBs or Ks. He can also hit curves and other off speed stuff which confounds the rest of the roster a lot.
Lucroy does hit in front of the pitcher and has had to adapt to the major leagues when he really should have spent the year in AAA. He’s a good hitter.
Braun was white hot when Tommy Hanson nailed him on the elbow with a fastball. He was pretty grim for a long time after that. He’s just been heating up lately.
All 3 starters are sort of a crapshoot. Bush might pitch a near CGSO or get chased in the first inning. Wolf hasn’t been universally bad, but rather pretty good or pretty bad. Gallardo was really, really bad last time out. I have no idea what to expect.
Lilly owns the Brewers. Likewise Dempster till recently. It was awful to have them both Cubs and Lou would always manipulate starts so that they would routinely pitch every series.
The bullpen is almost completely changed since the last meeting. Hoffman is still there and has been pitching quite well. He sometimes picks up late innings here and there, but his last save was priceless. With a frantic rally, the arch enemy Cards had the go ahead run at second (something like that) and had scored several runs. Axford was spent. Busch was loud and there was blood in the water. Three pitches to Brendan Ryan including an ugly whiff on – you guessed it – a change up, made for a nice ending.
thanks for having my back.
Lilly owns the Brewers. Likewise Dempster till recently. It was awful to have them both Cubs and Lou would always manipulate starts so that they would routinely pitch every series.
mike and phil should be nervous now
Lilly against Brewers
5 straight quality starts, total of 7 runs allowed in 32 1/3 IP in those starts.
Career 4-2 with a 3.46 ERA against MIL; all 9 starts from 2007-2010 (also had a 2/3 IP relief appearance in 1999)
by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
it’s like taking candy from a recently punched baby.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Lilly in Milwaukee
5 starts, 4 QS, 11 runs in 31 innings (6 runs came in 2007 start), 5 walks, 22 K
by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
also 6 HR in Milwaukee (3 in that 2007 start)
by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Based on his minor league numbers
I’d say he’s greatly exceeded expectations. JMO
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Dan Uggla wants 5 years, 11-12mil per year. What do you think?
80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.
And also where would he play?
Since he makes me think Ryan Theriot is a good fielding 2bman by comparison…
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
not for us obviously. But will someone give it to him, who would that be, and is it justified?
80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.
No they won’t. Because teams are either poor or not incompetent.
Well, maybe the Cubs or Mets.
by regfairfield on Aug 24, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
you did
(golf clap)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
we also would have accepted
“What’s it like to want?”
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
with that demand
how likely is it he’s on the block in the offseason again?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
I think he’s either going to lower his demands to something like 30/3 or he’ll just perpetually be on the block.
80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.
think a position change should be in his future? like to 1B or the outfield?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
It would help, but then he’s an .840ish OPS corner guy with a bat that could go at any time.
by regfairfield on Aug 24, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
why would his bat go?
seems that is the biggest part of his game?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Which is why that is a legitimate concern. If his bat goes, and you’ve committed 4 more years to him, what do you have left?
80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.
true enough
it just seems that with guys like him, worrying about his bat seems like a last concern. though I can see what you mean.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
What reg said.
He’s asking for 11-12 per year to not play defense and be 32-36 years old. I’d probably give him 30/3 since he doesn’t seem to have a big injury history anything, with maybe a club option for the 4th and 5th years in case he actually does work out. Anything more than that would be crazy. He probably needs to sign with an AL team regardless.
80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.
well I think as is common in negotiations
you set the bar high.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
But you run the risk of setting your initial asking price high enough that the other party either a) walks away from the beginning, b) never gets serious with you and resigns to just taking the two draft picks you’ll get them, or c) calls your bluff and lowballs you and leaves it at that.
80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.
Lumbering guys that strike out, walk, and hit dingers are more likely to hit serious declines in their early 30s than most hitters.
by regfairfield on Aug 24, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Can anybody understand the logic of Westbrook making the team over Rondo? Westbrook is a less good version of Rondo.
The 2 theories are, 1) Durant wants his sidekick from OKC or 2) Westbrook knows he’s not the starter so you won’t need to manage his ego as much.
I’m inclined to go with theory 2.
im inclined to say
rondo WITHDREW…..
he didnt miss the cut…. he withdrew before the decision was made
by matthewmafa on Aug 24, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
That decision was going to be him getting cut though. He was a DNP-CD in the last game.
Technically, Grady Little resigned, too. :)
by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
According to ned
Little told him he needed some time to think about coming back, which Ned took as a ‘no’.
by LA Taco on Aug 24, 2010 12:30 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I saw that was the “company line” but he was talking candidly yesterday about how we was on the bubble based on the DNP.
by Michael White on Aug 24, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
we refer to him as “Kiff” in my house
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
4a) which worked for Sam Cassell, though
by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Westbrook is a guy who also
sucks one game and can be great the next. I’ve actually never seen Westbrook have a good game since Baron seemed to own him this year. Or maybe that was my imagination.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
It was actually to watch Family Matters. He is on Season 4 now.
Rondo is a big Reginald Vel Johnson fan.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
That is one of the shows where I look back and am stunned I watched it as much as I did.
by Michael White on Aug 24, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
While I certainly enjoyed the show when I was a kid, I have absolutely no interest in watching it again.
Exactly.
I think that is the show which illustrated the “jump the shark” concept to me. The time machines, cloning devices, etc. were completely absurd.
by Michael White on Aug 24, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it's the perfect example
of a show which was about A, B and C. Realized nobody cared about any of those letters, but Neighbor F was testing well with audiences, so hey let’s secretly make the show about F, even though we’re going to have to give him God like powers to explain why he’s taking up the majority of the screen time.
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 24, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
that's why Home Improvement was brilliant
by never showing Wilson’s face.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
That wouldn’t work today when you would just google the actor playing Wilson, and break the illusion.
I have seasons 1-4 of Home Improvement
I love that show. Until, well, the boys grew up and Randy got all politically correct
that's the problem with family shows
can’t stop the changes
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 24, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Jonathan Taylor Thomas
where hath thou star gone?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey pal
We’re talking ABC only here, specifically TGIF.
My TGIF apex was probably 1989-1990. What a lineup:
Full House
Family Matters
Perfect Strangers (one of my favorite shows ever)
Just The Ten Of Us
by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I must have gone to sleep after Family Matters.
I’m certain i watched the first two, never saw any of the second two.
by Michael White on Aug 24, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
She may have gotten a little bigger
But damn I was in love with her.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I remember in one ep
she stood on her head in class to get blood flow to the brain. My brother was all “what a weirdo” but I just wanted to be that cool someday
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 24, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I forgot, early on she was the dorky/smart girl in class.
by Michael White on Aug 24, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
She was always the smart one
But she got great looks after a while.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
at some point
that girl in real life, cuts her hair, that’s just how that goes
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 24, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Ugh, don't get me started on Blossom
those hats, those awful hats, and can someone spring for a nose job?
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 24, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
She was really weird in the early episodes
But oh man about 9th grade on I remember wanting to marry her, haha.
Boy Meets World is my favorite show while growing up. I’m sad that it’s not on anymore.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
It’s like I’m looking in a mirror (except for cap)
by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I know tshow did well so I am probably answering my question
but did kids around the US not in the South like The Dukes of Hazzard?
I can't imagine
although technically I am also from the South (ern California)
by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm from california
and loved CHiPs
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
When did that show air?
I think its before (most of us) our time.
by Michael White on Aug 24, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
hard to believe it lasted as late as 85
seems the times had pretty clearly passed it by even by then.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
When I think of 1985, I think of Jack Clark and Barnaby Jones, not the Dukes!
by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Can you imagine if a show with a Confederate flag on the hood of the car tried to get made today?
by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I was pretty young when it was on and
remember “liking” it but mostly because of the cool car and the cartoony characters and because I had other friends who liked it and I wanted to fit in. I sort of remember feeling even as a 10/11 year old thinking it was pretty dumb.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
so beautiful
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
at least on the show
haven’t seen her recently
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
According to wikipedia, in real life she once dated Lance Bass. I guess that was before he came out of the closet.
heh
she broke him.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I rec'd your statement above
And she is still really hot, she does a show called talk soup or something on Style. I’ve seen some pictures of her at a bar sucking face with some other chick, it was quite the picture from Topanga, haha.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
don’t we all?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
For all the people that think I want a 50s home maker, Topanga is pretty much my dream girl :)
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
she will come
to the dark side
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
She will choose the light side of the force and be with me!
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
as if
we needed another reason to duel
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
The list just keeps getting longer every day
Soon I’ll need to get my dueling glove and slap you to challenge you to a duel.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
it'll take more than mincemeat pie
to get you out of it.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Did you get her consent?
I smell a law suit
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 24, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Is this some random chick, lol
She’s cute
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Broads? Senoritas? lol
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Women
just a suggestion
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 24, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
booboo kitty fuck?
/Jay
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Now where is the fun in that
Also wouldn’t guys be the exact same for girls to say as chicks for guys to say? Not saying you say guys, just saying in general.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I can't say
what I use for guys, it’s a family board
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 24, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
we’re a pretty foul-mouthed family
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
walking dick steak, was what I called the mens in high school
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 24, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
I would be offended
if that wasn’t so hilarious.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Topanga!
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 24, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
yeah
like in the last season i think.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
The concept of marriage is so absurd that it makes the show non-believable?
by Michael White on Aug 24, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
i think it's more
what else is there for them to do?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
True. With a show about being an adolescent and growing up… one would figure that getting married would mean being done with that part of life.
Kelly was friggin hot
You wouldn’t have married her?
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Keds?
I’m not exactly sure what that means, lol.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
TAT
my pre Topanga, post Winny Cooper crush
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
In a made for TV movie.
They cut out the laugh track in the movie, it was really weird.
by Michael White on Aug 24, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe they didn't cut it out
and nobody laughed :)
by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, they cancelled ‘The College Years’ and put together this made for TV movie.
It was different for sure.
The College Years wasn’t terrible.
I loved all the Saved By The Bell shows, but the College Years has some more grown up humour.
by Michael White on Aug 24, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
They did the Made for TV movie
because the College years was canceled.
I didn’t realized that the College Years were in prime time. Total wrong move by NBC to pull that.
This statement is true in all facets of life.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
the homeless christmas episode
is my favorite episode. that and the one where Kelly broke Zach’s heart to date Jeff.
I’m partial to the episode where Zach and Slater come to blows because they both asked out Joanna.
I had a bloodthirst as a youth.
by Michael White on Aug 24, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I liked her
on Fired Up, after Seinfeld
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 24, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Is that a show?
And when was she on Seinfeld? I know she had a guest appearance early on in Friends.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
No
Fired Up was a show that came on after Seinfeld, it didn’t last long
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 24, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Topanga!!!!
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
That show is unwatchable going back
No one is funny, and half the gags are HEY EVERYONE LOOK AT THIS LITTLE GIRL ISN’T SHE HILARIOUS AND CUTE?
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
you know who grew up pretty cute from that show?
the girl who played Stephanie
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
child actor::rehab
Humans::breathing
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Is that the 2nd sister?
She’s freakin hot as hell now, though with lots of drug problems.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Perfect Strangers
I still remember when Belky was predicting winners in the football games so Larry can bet on them. To explain why he picked the Bills to win over the Chargers, Belky says: “you can charge as much as you want, but eventually the bill is coming.”
1986-1987 may have been my apex
Webster
Mr. Belvedere
Side Kicks (with kid from Red Sonja!)
Sledgehammer (talk about a show that doesn’t hold up! God, I love that show)
by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Loved it to death
Then bought the DVDs a few years back, and man do those shows suck!
by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
My favorite line ever from the show
a young couple were reporting their newborn son kidnapped from the hospital, and Sledge asked them the name and the wife started crying. They said they hadn’t yet named the baby, and Sledge said, “How about Rob?”
Damn, that’s funny.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Eric and I decided a few months
ago that we were gonna remake Perfect Strangers.
I would be Balki and Eric would be Larry
complete with the feather touch typewriter. Well, keyboard
by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Iwant to thank that TV lineup for almost forcing me
to try to have a life on Friday nights when a teen+college young ’un
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Step by Step
was exactly what it said on the box. After you watched Family Matters and Sabrina/Teen Angel/whatever else went in that spot, it was the next step as you snuggled into sleep.
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 24, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
The only thing funnier than this thread
would be to have it on one of xeifrank’s prediction fan posts.
I am so old that
my TGIF was
Brady Bunch
Partridge Family
Room 222
Odd Couple
Love American Style
Saturday nights were
All in the Family
MASH
Mary Tyler Moore
Bob Newhart
Carol Burnett
MASH, FTW!
Love that show. Trapper is the best.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I am
your age. I remember each and every one of those shows very well.
And… Karen Valentine….. oh.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I don't understand
why TV has decided creating teen intended programming is no longer worthwhile.
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 24, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
CSI
Jersey Shore
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Delias Man
would be on board
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
copyright pending
all proceeds from show go to “Buy back the Dodgers fund.”
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Sabrina was cool
I loved MJH for a couple of years when i was young.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
How old are you?
Sam, the neighbor, was like the coolest dude in the world for me when that show was running.
by Michael White on Aug 24, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I liked that show
MJH never did it for me, but I do think she’s pretty.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
She's got
a new show with Joey Lawrence on ABC Family. Battle of Irrelevance if I ever saw one. But Joey’s bald now though, so, interesting.
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 24, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh yeah, that one too
Another cool Nick show was Alex Mack (can’t remember the actual title). That chick was so cute in 10 things I hate about you.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
nice pull!
I really enjoyed that show.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Larissa Oleynick
She’s actually still around, will pop up now and again in this or that
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 24, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
She didn’t do it for me when I caught her ep on Malcom in the Middle.
by Michael White on Aug 24, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
She was on
3rd Rock from the Sun. There’s a sitcom we all forgot. And yet it had John Lithgow and Joshua Gordon-Levitt
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 24, 2010 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes but Joshua Gordon-Levitt
certainly did not seem the sort to end up being a serious actor. I have friends who had a real hard time accepting him as a serious actor because of his role in 3rd rock.
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
That's an underrated show for sure
Very hilarious
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
She played a soldier who had a crush on Malcom’s mom.
by Michael White on Aug 24, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I was so into Alex Mack. She was the girl for me.
by Michael White on Aug 24, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Alex Mack
yes
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Salute your Shorts
Dina Alexander(Heidi Lucas)
mmmmm, yeah.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
It was all about
Pinsky. When he came on the show it was like finally, cute boy
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 24, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
and personality
I liked that he could bascially roll with Budnick’s shit
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
and
went off with the ladies
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
he was awesome
in Die Hard
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't where this should fit
but Ryder Strong ( Shawn from Boy Meets World) is the hottest in all of hotdom. Where the hell is Maddz?
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
even
in that ep where he was drinking and got abusive?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Next topic
Was the drunk uncle on Family Ties the best role/performance of Tom Hanks’ career?
by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
No
Big
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 24, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Jimmy Dugan
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
That really is hard question to answer
I mean the man has been so good in so much. He has iconic roles oozing out of every damn pore.
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
Never heard of it
wonder if Siskel ever regreted this quote:
“two lame performances by its leading actors, the vastly overrated Tom Hanks…and the consistently disappointing John Candy.”
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
Haha he also called him the poor man's bill murray
Oh how things change
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
I'm going to just keep talking to myself
Its insane to me that I never realized the first almost 8 years of Hanks career was almost exclusively comedies and then out of the blue its Philadelphia and Forrest Gump and Apollo 13.
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
I think
that’s fairly common. I can’t think of an actor who’s done only drama his entire career
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 24, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I wonder
if anyone has ever really done the opposite. Drama to successful comedy. Of course no one would give a shit if they did.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
He once signed a bat for me, for some reason.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
he’s just that cool
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Let me tell you a little story about acting. I was doing this Showtime movie, Hot Ice with Anne Archer, never once touched my per diem. I’d go to Craft Service, get some raw veggies, bacon, Cup-A-Soup… baby, I got a stew going.
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 24, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
lol
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I think he was on Psych this week, but I couldn’t tell because I haven’t seen him in anything since 2004.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I love Psych
Shawn is pretty hilarious, and Juliet is freaking beautiful.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Do you consider the "Fockers" series "successful comedy"?
If so, I submit Robert De Niro.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
It is
Its just weird to me because I never looked at when his movies came out chronologically. I tend to think of him as a serious actor who has done some comedies, not a comedic actor who went on to become a serious actor.
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
Has he really done any comedies since the start of his career?
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
what?
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
Since he started doing the more dramatic movies I mean
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Ladykillers, The Terminal, You've got mail, Toy Story(?)
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
I don’t think I’ve seen a minute of the first two, I forgot about You’ve Got Mail, and Toy Story didn’t come to mind because it was animated, though it still counts.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
The Terminal was actually pretty good
Ladykillers got horrible reviews.
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
It is very funny
to see early TV roles for people who move on to bigger things, just the other day I saw Steven Colbert in a Law and Order – Criminal Intent episode.
He was
a pikey or whatever you bloody Americans call them, it was part of his character
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 24, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Either him or Eric were my favorite characters
Though I’m much more of a Cory than a Shawn or Eric.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Watching the LLWS and a kid on 2nd was putting up signs to his hitter. It was pretty funny, but he should be put on his ass the next time he comes up to the plate.
i also cant believe i missed the TGIF convo. Boy Meets World kills all, as it is still watchable and enjoyable. I saw an episode of Saved By The Bell recently, and I couldnt believe its horrendousness. And to think Zack Morris was my idol growing up…
I wanted Zack’s girlfriend. She was, and still is, ridiculous.
by UCLADodger32 on Aug 24, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
how does the opposing manager not see that?
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 24, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
He did. He came out to the mound (after the catcher was going out every pitch) and told the pitcher to watch his signs. It didnt matter, as the kid still stole the sign and the hitter crushed a double.
by UCLADodger32 on Aug 24, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
that's not
y’know, against the rules?
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 24, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Nope. Big league teams do it all the time if the catcher is that obvious with his signs. They’re just usually more subtle about it.
There was some minor controversy about Mauer doing it earlier this year.
by regfairfield on Aug 24, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
But
why is it controversial if it’s not against the rules?
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 24, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Because “if you ain’t cheatin, you ain’t tryin” directly contradicts “it’s only cheating if you get caught”. If you get caught, it’s immoral and not in the spirit of the game, but somehow, if you aren’t trying to gain an advantage over your opposition you aren’t doing your job. Baseball people are hypocrits to the nth degree.
80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.
Idiots.
Just tell the catcher that you are going to start giving 4 different hand signals and the pitcher should key on the 2nd one.
For a curve ball it would be 1,2,2,4 or something.
Fastball it would be 1,1,3,2.
Everytime somebody gets to second, have a conference and tell the pitcher which number in the sequence to use.
by Michael White on Aug 24, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I just thought it was funny that a team that made it to LLWS didnt have combination signs, a key, anything that would prevent this. Its really not hard to disguise signs, but the kid at second was just putting up fingers right before the pitch.
by UCLADodger32 on Aug 24, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Brewers Lineup
Weeks 2B
Escobar SS
Braun LF
Fielder 1B
McGehee 3B
Cain CF
Gomes RF
Lucroy C
Bush P
Thanks
They changed their Twitter name (I was still following though, just forgot to check)
by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
OT- Did anyone else know that Sasha Vujacic is dating Maria Sharapova, or am I just that far out of the loop? Sasha and Marko Jaric make me sick.
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