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Barajas' Record Debut Leads Dodgers, Lilly To Win Over Brewers

Rod Barajas welcomed himself quite nicely to the Dodgers, a team he said on Think Blue TV before the game that he always wanted to play for. The new catcher, claimed off waivers from the Mets on Sunday, had a debut unlike any LA Dodger hitter ever, leading the Dodgers and Ted Lilly to a 5-3 win in the opening game against the Brewers in Milwaukee.

Barajas doubled in his first at-bat in second inning, then doubled again to lead off the fifth inning. At this point, Barajas was already in rare territory, as Juan Encarnacion (April 5, 2004) and Wilson Betemit (July 30, 2006) are the only two other LA Dodgers to hit two doubles in their first game with the club, and only Encarnacion doubled in his first two trips to the plate.

Then in the sixth inning, with the Dodgers down 3-2, Barajas ventured into uncharted waters by launching a three-run home run. Not only was it the first three run homer for the Dodgers since July 11, but it was the third extra-base hit for Barajas, something no other LA Dodger has ever done in his first game with the club.

This season, Brad Ausmus and A.J. Ellis have combined for three extra-base hits (all doubles) in 133 plate appearances. Barajas equaled that extra-base production in his first three times up.

The home run made a winner out of Lilly, who allowed three runs in his 6 1/3 innings of work. It is the fifth win for Lilly in five starts with the club, a start only bested by Kaz Ishii in LA Dodger history. Ishii won his first six starts in 2002.

Matt Kemp also launched a home run to center field in the second inning measured at 447 feet, although I'm certain no man-made instruments can accurately measure such a blast. Kemp also stole a base, making this the fourth time this season he has collected a home run and a steal in the same game.  Other Dodgers to accomplish that feat this season are Rafael Furcal (twice), James Loney, and Manny Ramirez.

Ramirez went hitless with a strikeout in four at-bats at the plate tonight, and played 6 1/3 innings in the field. When Lilly was pulled in the seventh inning, Scott Podsednik came in to play left field in a double switch.

Ronald Belisario pitched 1 2/3 scoreless innings tonight, arguably his best outing since returning from the restricted list, although he was aided by a line drive that turned into a double play to end the eighth inning. Hong-Chih Kuo retired the side in the ninth, although not without some fielding fun of his own doing, for his fifth save.

Hiroki Kuroda, on five days rest, gets the call for the Dodgers tomorrow, facing old friend Randy Wolf. That is, if Kuroda isn't claimed off waivers first.

WP - Ted Lilly (8-8):  6 1/3 IP, 7 hits, 3 runs, 1 walk, 2 strikeouts

LP - Dave Bush (6-11):  6 IP, 10 hits, 5 runs, 1 walk, 3 strikeouts

Sv - Hong-Chih Kuo (5):  1 IP, 1 hit, 1 strikeout

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Great win

We only need to win 5 of the remaining 6 from SD and SF and 10 out of 12 from the Rockies.

That will help…..

by keithc13 on Aug 24, 2010 8:24 PM PDT reply actions  

so where does Reed play tomorrow?

RF?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 8:27 PM PDT reply actions  

booo

left hander on the mound. Or are Lefty’s beating Wolf this year?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

everyone is.

80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.

by G.Scott on Aug 25, 2010 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

i noticed

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 25, 2010 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

hey, you’ll never see Dan Rather do this!

by sarcastro9 on Aug 24, 2010 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

funny

Tom Brokaw on the other hand….

by keithc13 on Aug 24, 2010 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Their owner is a fucking douche

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 24, 2010 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Loria is the reason why the Expos are defunct

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Aug 24, 2010 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

BTW

the front of ROBAR’s jersey looks just like it did in the Mets pic, Eric.

That is cool.

by keithc13 on Aug 24, 2010 8:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Great observation.

I’ll bet that means he has a very consistent swing, no?

by TopDeckTrueBlue on Aug 24, 2010 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

yep

And a lot of material for a shirt!

by keithc13 on Aug 24, 2010 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kuo ate his $5 foot long to record that save. Great win. Let’s keep’em coming.

by Skunkburner on Aug 24, 2010 8:27 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

I like how the facetious caption about the Rod Barajas era beginning actually turned out to be prescient

Perhaps we can keep that theme going tomorrow- maybe with something about how we’re currently in day two of the Dodgers record winning streak, I dunno…

by sarcastro9 on Aug 24, 2010 8:28 PM PDT reply actions  

We’re goin streaking!!!!!!!!!

by keithc13 on Aug 24, 2010 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I may want to count Monday’s off day as part of the winning streak, just so tomorrow can be day three! :)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha!

Charlie just said that Kuo was starting tomorrow and is getting little or no run support in his starts.

by keithc13 on Aug 24, 2010 8:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Ned’s certainly done his best to win as many games as possible.
Ted Lilly – 5-0.
Barajas better than Ellis/Martin/Ausmus.

Maybe the Dodgers dont even let Manny go.

by Joey Joe on Aug 24, 2010 8:33 PM PDT reply actions  

I would be shocked

if someone was willing to take him, and we didn’t let him go. Regardless of us getting hot or not.

by keithc13 on Aug 24, 2010 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just dont see the front office conceding any wins.
Even though the team is out of it, I think they try to win as many games as possible…so I think they keep Manny.

by Joey Joe on Aug 24, 2010 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Manny moves, but he’s the only one.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I feel that

but He isn’t exactly contributing right now. He’s just kinda out there. Now I’m not saying that Pods or Reed or Gibbons gives us a better chance to win than Manny. I am saying that when someone will pay for him the rest of the year and the likelyhood of us making the playoff are slim at best. I think they take it.

Kuroda won’t move unless the Dodgers lose a few in a row and they are blown away by an offer from the Yankees or someone else.

I think Manny is gone as a girl can get.

by keithc13 on Aug 24, 2010 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think I can say the F word enough times

in talking about the giants and Reds game. grrrrrrrrr

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 8:33 PM PDT reply actions  

even WITH all the disappointments we've had this season

Just imagine how different it might be if we could just flip three of the following four “How the hell did we lose THAT one?!” games:

-Yankees (Enough said)
-Cardinals (Is it hot out here?)
-Phillies (Enough said)
-Braves (What have you done with the REAL Hong-Chih Kuo?!)

There were others, but those four really stick out in my mind.

by sarcastro9 on Aug 24, 2010 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

agreed

that Phillies games, was when I really lost my hope for the season. I mean, how can you really believe they can win when they blow it like that?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Usually the Dodgers have enough games to balance those out…but they were all at the beginning of the year.

Stephen Drew throwaway game.
Walk off win on the balk.

But really..not near as many miracle wins this year as last.

by Joey Joe on Aug 24, 2010 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

so true

again proves my point of almost everything that went right last year has gone wrong this year

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree about the Stephen Drew throwaway game, but the walk off balk was sort of a draw, as we don’t know what would’ve happened beyond that. I know I’m biased, but I really believe there are at least twice as many “how did we lose THAT?!” as there are “I can’t believe we won!” games. But I’d have to admit that it does balance out last year pretty evenly.

by sarcastro9 on Aug 24, 2010 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bet results

Mike owes Delias Man and I each a buck (Dodgers won)

Phil owes me three bucks


  • Lilly 6 1/3 IP, Bush 6 IP
  • Lilly qualified for the win
  • Braun didn’t HR

by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 8:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Silly Question

But does Lilly have a good shot at NL Pitcher of the Month?

by bhsportsguy on Aug 24, 2010 8:39 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Lilly: 5-0, 1.83 ERA
Wainwright: 4-1, 1.95 ERA (lost tonight, 4 runs in 7 IP)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

wainwright

not a winner

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Halladay has 4 or 5 wins

and an under 2.00 ERA I think.

Tim Hudson has been awesoke this month as well.

Lilly has been as good or better than them. That is other competition along with Wainwright.

by keithc13 on Aug 24, 2010 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good call

Halladay: 4-0, 1.86 (he’ll have to settle for the CYA)
Hudson: 3-0, 1.80 (in 5 starts)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I gave you a gimme

and he only made it by one out

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 24, 2010 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

The man clearly knows how to win!

by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ryan Howard

ejected

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 8:40 PM PDT reply actions  

0 for 7 with 5 Ks

he ejected himself on purpose so he doesnt get 6 Ks

by matthewmafa on Aug 24, 2010 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think we determined

one night that 5K’s is a Golden Shower right?

by keithc13 on Aug 24, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha

I’m still sticking with Platinum Sombrero :)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh yeah

maybe it was 6 K’s whatever!

It might’ve been when Kershaw faced the Braves and he was mowing down Heyward all night.

by keithc13 on Aug 24, 2010 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

In a nine inning game, 5

In extra innings, 6

by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bit surprising

Though I guess even getting 6+ ABs in a 9 inning game is pretty rare, to say nothing of striking out in all of them.

by EMDarrow on Aug 24, 2010 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for that.

What a horrible, horrible game for Howard. No wonder he was so pissed off.

by Jesse S. on Aug 24, 2010 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

holy...

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 24, 2010 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Phillies – Astros game is wild.

Ryan Howard gets thrown out on a strike 3 call.
Games goes into the 15th inning.

Phillies are out of players so a pitcher has to play a position with Howard getting tossed.

by Joey Joe on Aug 24, 2010 8:41 PM PDT reply actions  

haha- that description confused me for a few seconds

When you said, “thown out”, I thought you meant that the ball had been dropped or something, and they had to throw to first.

by sarcastro9 on Aug 24, 2010 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope.
He was ejected after arguing a check swing call made by the 3rd base umpire.

Really bad time to get ejected when you are out of position players.

by Joey Joe on Aug 24, 2010 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

so rubby rubbed another one out i guess

over 3:1 gb ratio again.

Is this guy the next derek lowe?

by npurcell on Aug 24, 2010 8:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Derek Lowe never threw 95+.
Its amazing he throws so many ground balls with a limited amount of breaking pitches.

by Joey Joe on Aug 24, 2010 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

the guy

in minorleagueball…. hes just tryin to hate in every single way possible

by matthewmafa on Aug 24, 2010 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

it really is amazing

he dismisses what rubby has done in the midwest league but uses his professional debuts as evidence that he’ll never develop control. I really don’t get it. there’s a thing called progression and he’s never heard about that i guess.

by npurcell on Aug 24, 2010 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Roy Oswalt is playing left field now.
Ibanez at 1st.

by Joey Joe on Aug 24, 2010 8:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Rick Camp FTW

havent heard that name in a while

by keithc13 on Aug 24, 2010 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

of course

first ball goes to him. I love baseball.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

awesoke

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I bet he

slapped his chest twice and went thigh to chest to a nasty slap catch like Rickey!

by keithc13 on Aug 24, 2010 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or basket catch ala Willie Mays Hayes?

Nice catch Roy, don’t ever fuckin do it again.!

by keithc13 on Aug 24, 2010 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

They have recounted that story on MLB Network a few times this year. So, so awesome.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

You also get a Dutch Daulton and Mickey Morandini sighting.

awesoke

by keithc13 on Aug 24, 2010 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thats incredible.
I had no idea MLB allowed a game to start at 1:20 am…

I think there are rules against that now.

Pretty cool that the stadium let people in when the bars closed without a ticket.

by Joey Joe on Aug 24, 2010 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mitchy Poo

LOL

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Vinny

doesn’t know what it is. ;)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then Bourn bunts to Ibanez at 1st base…and Ibanez dives to the bag and gets him.
This is a great game.

by Joey Joe on Aug 24, 2010 8:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Reds coming back

5-7

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 8:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Via MikeSciosciasTI, pic of Matt Kemp's scoreboard lodged ball

http://scores.espn.go.com/mlb/photos?gameId=300824108&photoId=794882#photo_794882

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Aug 24, 2010 8:51 PM PDT reply actions  

that

might be the most awesoke thing of the year

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Woa

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 24, 2010 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Boo. Turns out that’s not Kemp’s HR ball.

Looking at the replay. Kemp’s HR ball hit the scoreboard and fell down to the field.

by Alex41592 on Aug 24, 2010 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

it’s a photograph

by LA Taco on Aug 24, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

sorry, misread what you wrote..

by LA Taco on Aug 24, 2010 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it hit in between the “Brewers” and the first inning on the scoreboard.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not going to be surprised, but I'll still be angry

when we only move manny by the 31st

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 24, 2010 8:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Prepare yourself accordingly

by keithc13 on Aug 24, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like I said

I won’t be surprised, but we could really get a major haul for Padilla, Kuroda, Lilly, Manny. All pitching well, all could get us something legit back(except manny but at least some money). Fuck Colleti, Fuck McCourt. I should be happy we won, yet all it makes me think is how this is going to make ned think its ok to hold.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 24, 2010 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I posted up a little bit

That I think they will have to be blown away to move Hiro. Padilla being hurt doesn’t help. He can’t even be moved on the DL. Lilly is worth A LOT right now. I just doubt they will move anyone but Manny.

I agree that we could get some value for all of them.

by keithc13 on Aug 24, 2010 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

what if

the Yanks offered Montero?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d do it. He’s an awesoke prospect and only 20. Oh and he’s catcher……where do I sign?

by keithc13 on Aug 24, 2010 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Yankees two other well-regarded catching prospects

(not as highly regarded as Montero) would be more likely what they’d offer, no?

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Aug 24, 2010 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure if you noticed this, but ALL OF OUR CATCHING NEEDS HAVE BEEN SOLVED WITH ROD BARAJAS!!! :)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

haha

My bad! :-P

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Aug 24, 2010 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

well

they did say montero might move to first

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d prefer Romine who might actually stick at catcher. Doesn’t have Montero’s bat but has a much better glove.

by prosellis on Aug 24, 2010 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't have nearly as much of a problem with him holding at this point

If Ned had held at the deadline instead of bought. But given how much more sense it makes to sell now than it did to buy then…yeah, you pretty much said it all.

by sarcastro9 on Aug 24, 2010 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Screw the Reds for being crap vs the Giants

But whatever…

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Aug 24, 2010 9:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Ted Lilly, 17 quality starts in 23 outings this year (74%), including 5 for 5 as a Dodger

by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 9:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Won 3 games in 4 months with the Cubs.
Wins 5 games in 3 weeks with the Dodgers.

by Joey Joe on Aug 24, 2010 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Astros threatening now.
Bases loaded 1 out.

by Joey Joe on Aug 24, 2010 9:10 PM PDT reply actions  

I really want to see a pop fly to LF and then see Oswalt throw to the plate.

by Joey Joe on Aug 24, 2010 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shoulda put Oswalt at 1st

Matt Kemp - Bringer of drought, puncher of babies faces(ugly ones killed on site), not Larry Bowa's GUY

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 24, 2010 9:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Ibanez drops a DP catch.
4-2 Astros.

by Joey Joe on Aug 24, 2010 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Halfway there

On August 1, my highly educated guess at Ted Lilly as a Dodger was 10-0, 1.46 ERA

He’s 5-0 with a 1.83 ERA so far.

We can’t have any of this three-run BS like tonight anymore! :)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 9:12 PM PDT reply actions  

However

I also said, on April 9, if Kuroda makes 30 starts the Dodgers will win the NL West.

Tomorrow will be start #25 for HK.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

so many factors you didn't consider

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

it is 13-5 Giants in the 5th. Their offense is no longer offensive.

by Alex41592 on Aug 24, 2010 9:14 PM PDT reply actions  

fucking Reds, fucking Giants

x Infinity

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

They managed to bring in 25 veteran outfielders

(or so), so hard to believe at least a couple of them wouldn’t hit. Still maddening though. If they don’t make the playoffs we’ll care less about all that, though.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Aug 24, 2010 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

New Clean Up Hitter

Matt Kemp - Bringer of drought, puncher of babies faces(ugly ones killed on site), not Larry Bowa's GUY

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 24, 2010 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

WOW

talk about a guy doing something no one else has ever done …
It was the heat of the moment
Mutha Fucka

by 68elcamino427 on Aug 24, 2010 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

13-5 Giants now but Reds have bases loaded already in the next inning

When the hell did SBC Park become a hitter’s park?

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Aug 24, 2010 9:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Buster Posey

waved his magic wand

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Astros putting the tying run on base to face Oswalt with 2 outs.

by Joey Joe on Aug 24, 2010 9:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Polanco walks. Two outs. 4-2 Astros Bot 16.

Utley at the plate. Roy Oswalt on deck.

by Alex41592 on Aug 24, 2010 9:24 PM PDT reply actions  

They will walk Utley intentionally. Roy Oswalt can win the game with a home run.

by Alex41592 on Aug 24, 2010 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

John Kruk is advocating Tommy John for Stephen Stransburg

Saying it’ll give him a better arm.

The man is a fucking idiot.

by Tripon on Aug 24, 2010 9:24 PM PDT reply actions  

ugh

i know we banned the word so I won’t use it, but that is stupid on a whole different level

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Watch the Daily Show tonight. They have a segment on the relative offensiveness of “N-Word” versus the “R-Word”, in light of Dr. Laura’s recent issues.

Pretty funny skit.

by KellyStephen on Aug 24, 2010 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

with Brian Williams? I have that one set to record

by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it’s before the Williams interview.

by KellyStephen on Aug 24, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are you with Team Evil or Team Stupid?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 24, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Depends on the day of the week. Or sometimes the hour of the day.

My wife thinks I’m both.

by KellyStephen on Aug 24, 2010 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ditto that

but every once in a while I’m Team Wonderful which gets me a pass for the other 98% of bad behavior.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 24, 2010 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Guess that answers my question of if Kelly is brother or sister.

80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.

by G.Scott on Aug 25, 2010 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

not in California

How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?

by Josie Becker on Aug 25, 2010 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ha Ha

Hear that Kelly, Greg wasn’t sure if you were a brother or sister. Eric tells me you’ve been both to him:)

by meercatjohn on Aug 25, 2010 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Gary, not Greg.

Touche Josie. Touche.

80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.

by G.Scott on Aug 25, 2010 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wondered the same thing about Kelly for a while, then it became abundantly clear after a little while, lol.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 25, 2010 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I assumed he was talking to me since I made the brother or sister comment. the G. in G. Scott is Gary. My mistake.

80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.

by G.Scott on Aug 25, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was but I think it is funny that the real Greg showed up.

Greg are you or Kelly the oldest?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 25, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

So I'm guessing they gave him an

ambiguous name because when he was born they didn’t already know the xx/xy output.

by meercatjohn on Aug 25, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fixed
because when he was born 15

by Eric Stephen on Aug 25, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ha Ha

took me more then a second to figure this out. Siblings. Good thing my brothers do not cohabit this space.

by meercatjohn on Aug 25, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thats fucking great.

Matt Kemp - Bringer of drought, puncher of babies faces(ugly ones killed on site), not Larry Bowa's GUY

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 24, 2010 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

I mean, he might need it down the line. but this injury is not related to his elbow.

haha krukie brings the lolz.

by npurcell on Aug 24, 2010 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I recommend an abby normal brain transplant for Kruk

it’ll give him a better mind.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Aug 24, 2010 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Before you besmirch Mr. Kruk, keep in mind he was the technical adviser on the movie “The Fan” :)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man, was that the worse baseball movie of all time? “Fear Strikes Out” was better than that POS.

by KellyStephen on Aug 24, 2010 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Joooooohnnnn Kruk

Matt Kemp - Bringer of drought, puncher of babies faces(ugly ones killed on site), not Larry Bowa's GUY

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 24, 2010 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Giants and Phillies going to be in a virtual tie.

by Joey Joe on Aug 24, 2010 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

what if

we win the next 10 in a row, and the Pads and Gnats go in the toilet? Oh Tommy Blackjack you wild eyed dreamer.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

At this point I'll be happy if the Dodgers play well

and the Giants miss the playoffs. I’ve not given up but have let go so it’s less painful :-)

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Aug 24, 2010 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

i'm just enjoying the rest of the ride

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sandoval

heating up

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 9:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Yes or No?

Will Hiroki Kuroda get a hit this year?

Currently 0-40.

by Joey Joe on Aug 24, 2010 9:37 PM PDT reply actions  

oh man

if he gets one off Wolf…….

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

i say yes

he runs into a HR tomorrow.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 24, 2010 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

he will hit for the cycle tomorrow

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Aug 24, 2010 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

16-5 Giants in the 6th inning.

by Alex41592 on Aug 24, 2010 9:40 PM PDT reply actions  

That’s five games for us!

(3.21 runs per game in 38 games since ASB)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was going to say that was a week. At least things aren’t that bad now that we have Rod ’The Clinch" Barajas.

by Alex41592 on Aug 24, 2010 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wait until they finish scoring; it may be 8 games by the end of the night.

by KellyStephen on Aug 24, 2010 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

POS	PLAYER	B/T	HT/WT	BIRTHDATE	CLUB/AFFILIATE
1B	Matt Adams	L/R	6-3/265	8/31/1988	Quad Cities/St. Louis
2B	Scooter Gennett	L/R	5-9/165	5/1/1990	Wisconsin/Milwaukee
3B	Matt Davidson	R/R	6-3/225	3/26/1991	South Bend/Arizona
SS	Nick Franklin	S/R	6-1/175	3/2/1991	Clinton/Seattle
OF	Mike Trout	R/R	6-1/217	7/7/1991	Cedar Rapids/Los Angeles (AL)
Khris Davis	R/R	6-0/195	12/21/1987	Wisconsin/Milwaukee
Brian Cavazos-Galvez	R/R	6-0/215	5/17/1987	Great Lakes/Los Angeles (NL)
Blake Smith	L/R	6-2/225	12/9/1987	Great Lakes/Los Angeles (NL)
C	Jason Hagerty	S/R	6-3/220	9/13/1987	Fort Wayne/San Diego
DH	Matt Davidson	R/R	6-3/225	3/26/1991	South Bend/Arizona
RHSP	Erasmo Ramirez	R/R	5-11/180	5/2/1990	Clinton/Seattle
LHSP	Ian Krol	L/L	6-1/170	5/9/1991	Kane County/Oakland
RHRP	Yonaya Ortega	R/R	6-1/220	11/11/1986	South Bend/Arizona
LHRP	Jon Pokorny	L/L	6-2/225	4/4/1988	Wisconsin/Milwaukee
<pre>

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 24, 2010 9:42 PM PDT reply actions  

none of our pitchers?????

didnt we have the best pitching staff in the MWL??

no webster or matt magill

by matthewmafa on Aug 24, 2010 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Curious

how Mike Trout was name player of the year and made the team but Sands was ignored because he was promoted early.
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100824&content_id=13863144&vkey=pr_milb&fext=.jsp

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 24, 2010 9:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Dee Gordon makes his 36th error

as he attempts to become the first to the 40/40/20 club.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 24, 2010 9:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Nice, thought that one might take a while

WHen I first checked the box score tonight they said he’d been caught stealing for the 20th time, but a few minutes ago I checked and the caught stealing was gone so he’s still at 19.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 24, 2010 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup

Can’t miss right there. He’s the next Carlos Gomez.

by EMDarrow on Aug 24, 2010 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Charlie Manuel on Ryan Howard tonight: “I’m not looking for him to get suspended because he don’t get throwed out of games…

Bob Dylan in Don’t Think Twice It’s Alright: “It ain’t no use in turnin’ on your light, babe. That light I never knowed.

Two geniuses in my book. :)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 10:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Manuel seems like more of an America kind of guy

‘Cause there ain’t no one for to give him no pain. Or grammar.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Aug 24, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kuroda's no trade clause

I don’t think he’d waive it to leave the comfort/familiarity of L.A. even for just a month plus.

by silverwidow on Aug 24, 2010 10:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Angels and Dodgers combined record continues to stand at .500 (126-126)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 10:14 PM PDT reply actions  

if the Angels lose (down 10-3 in 9th with bases loaded, 1 out)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

OT

I found video of the Cubs epic collapse in game 6 of the NLCS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhc5iNGuDbc

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Aug 24, 2010 10:26 PM PDT reply actions  

wow- awesome

that’s the first time I’ve seen that since it happened. I’d completely forgotten how our future buddy Juan Pierre got the whole thing started, and capped the rally. Good stuff. I’m surprised this clip has been allowed to exist on Youtube for this long!

by sarcastro9 on Aug 24, 2010 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember watching that game

I was pulling for them in the playoffs given their billion years without a championship. Both the LCS’s that year were epic but the World Series was meh.

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Aug 24, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can you just imagine how different things had gone if Alou had caught that ball?

I wonder what might be different now if they had gone to the WS that year.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 24, 2010 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

The play of the inning was Alex Gonzalez, misplaying the double play.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 25, 2010 6:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Absolutely. I forgot about the Alou play immediately after it happened, but missing the DP felt like FLA was going to win the game.

by Michael White on Aug 25, 2010 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's hard to believe it took that long for Baker to get a pitcher up in the BP

I realize Prior was money that year, but every pitcher can get shelled in any given inning, once a rally starts you need to get the guy out of there. If it was Kershaw in the same situation (lets say a year from now with another 200+ innings in his belt) I wouldn’t be comfortable with him in the 8th inning there, it’s what the bullpen is for. If it was regular season maybe keep him in, but otherwise nope.

But yeah, that botched DP probly haunts gonzalez, or not, his millions probly help sooth him, lol.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 25, 2010 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lost in it all was Bernie Mac (RIP) with perhaps the ultimate jinx. In the seventh inning stretch, he did Take Me Out To The Ballgame, and kept saying “Champs!” into the microphone!

by Eric Stephen on Aug 25, 2010 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

They were NL Central champs!

by delias man on Aug 25, 2010 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Any one else

have a problem watching Bernie Mac now that he died so suddenly. Everytime I start to watch the show I can’t help but think “dude your dead”.

by meercatjohn on Aug 25, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Same reason I don’t watch the Steve Harvey Show

80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.

by G.Scott on Aug 25, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I never liked the show anyway (why does the dumbass secretary call the principal “boss lady”, wtf?), even though I’ve seen like 40 episodes for some reason, lol.

I’ve watched Mr 3000 since then and didn’t have any problem.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 25, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL, i mixed up your post with the Steve Harvey Show one.

The Bernie Mac show sucked, the wife was hot though.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 25, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I remember that being a for sure double play ball. But, looking at it now it really would’ve been close. That’s a 20 year old Miguel Cabrera.

by Alex41592 on Aug 25, 2010 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Watching it again…the umpire could have easily ruled interference and an out.

by robotmadeofnails on Aug 25, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just saw the (Cards 3B coach) Jose Oquendo decision to hold the tying run at 3B in the 9th inning tonight. Awful call.

Cards lost 4-3

by Eric Stephen on Aug 24, 2010 10:27 PM PDT reply actions  

2010 Fan's Scouting Report

Tom Tango is putting together his 2010 Fan’s Scouting Report. Please take the time to scout the Dodgers players. The survey needs more Dodgers fans to rate the current Dodgers players.
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Aug 24, 2010 10:39 PM PDT reply actions  

-Rod Barajas homered and doubled twice in his debut. It’s worth pointing out that the Barajas acquisition was pointless not because he’s not better than Brad Ausmus and A.J. Ellis; it’s a pointless acquisition with the team out of contention and Barajas, even when better than the other two, still being awful. Let’s just hope he’s not our starting catcher next year.

http://www.memoriesofkevinmalone.com/

Greg Zawkin being shrill.

by Tripon on Aug 24, 2010 10:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Pointless is when theres no improvement

Or an actual downgrade. In this case, Ellis and Ausmus have been so horrid that Barajas is actually an upgrade. That and I kinda like Barajas… admittedly I like him as a backup not a starter, but he’s always been good for a bit of pop and you can do a helluva lot worse (the Dodgers certainly have been).

by EMDarrow on Aug 24, 2010 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

wow

only found out now that the yankees put a waiver claim on Kuroda. I would hate to see him go.

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Aug 24, 2010 10:55 PM PDT reply actions  

do you think he will be dealt?

some of the rumors are suggesting he got put on waivers because he is thinking of going back to Japan next year.

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Aug 24, 2010 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can't see him being resigned

Certainly not for anything close to what he’s making now, so why not try and get something for him? Its not like he’s gonna be offered arbitration.

That said, I doubt he’s traded. Or anyone else for that matter, short of Manny.

by EMDarrow on Aug 24, 2010 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess it would make sense a little, despite his hefty price tag.

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Aug 24, 2010 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Would make sense to resign him

Not for the $14 mil or so that he’s making now, though.

by EMDarrow on Aug 24, 2010 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

if we do

there is no chance we bring back Lily.

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Aug 24, 2010 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

IMO

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Aug 24, 2010 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't mind having Lilly back

But I fear he’ll be demanding way more than he’s worth, and he’s just the sort I could see Ned overpaying for, especially with how he’s pitched so far.

by EMDarrow on Aug 24, 2010 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

me too

I just get the sense he would be too much of a luxury for a team that has been cutting corners on the payroll the last few years. He would be an excellent 4th-5th starter but a bit too pricey for that spot in the rotation.

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Aug 25, 2010 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

wow i cant believe

that in one of albert worst seasons…. hes about to win the triple crown…..

it “was” one of his worst seasons about a month ago..

by matthewmafa on Aug 25, 2010 12:26 AM PDT reply actions  

hes only 2 points away from BA title

he leads homers and RBI… homers by 2 over dunn and RBI by 6 over votto….

is this the year of the triple crown for pujols

by matthewmafa on Aug 25, 2010 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

I really hope so

How crazy would that be if he actually got it? It would be yet another MVP for The Machine.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 25, 2010 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

I want to see a Triple Double Crown. Miguel Cabrera and Albert Pujols both win it.

80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.

by G.Scott on Aug 25, 2010 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I blame those guys

for the lack of Loney Love

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 25, 2010 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Me too

I blame the dozen or so better 1B than him for him not being as good as they are as well.

80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.

by G.Scott on Aug 25, 2010 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Double Triple?

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 25, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Didn't sound as good

Wanted to drop in a basketball term Clippers fans haven’t heard in awhile.

80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.

by G.Scott on Aug 25, 2010 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not sure

if we’ve ever heard it. Livingston might have come close.

by meercatjohn on Aug 25, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I really wish the Clippers had someone I liked. I’d go to a bunch of Clippers games since the Lakers have priced me out of being a fan of theirs. Eric Gordon is a nice player, but I remember not liking him when he was at Indiana. Now, if they had Russell Westbrook, we’d talk.

80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.

by G.Scott on Aug 25, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hate Russell Westbrook's game

and love Gordon’s so I’m glad we have Gordon. I wish he had stepped us his game last year. He doesn’t self – promote, is humble to a fault. He needs to demand the ball more but he has such a quiet personality I’m not sure if he has the personality to be a top tier player since he’s not a dick.

Kaman is a goofball and you won’t get cliche’s when he’s asked a question.

by meercatjohn on Aug 25, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think I mostly like Westbrook because he went to UCLA in my conscious lifetime and my boss knows him.

Same reason I like Jordan Farmar. Earl Watson, Dan Gadzuric (not Gadzureek. You can’t just decide to tell us after 10 years how to say it), Matt Barnes, Jason Kapono, Dijon Thompson (the 2 years or whatever he played in the NBA. Biggest deal with him is probably the footnote that he was traded for Tim (Kurt?) Thomas on draft day.). Trevor Ariza not as much; wanted him to stay an extra year. Aaron Afflalo not so much. I’m probably missing a couple guys. Mbah a Moute I have no love for.

80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.

by G.Scott on Aug 25, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Baron had one this year.

by Michael White on Aug 25, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Clipper Triple Doubles

2 this season, 1 by Baron, the other by Steve Blake. Lamar Odom had 7 of them.

Basketball Reference

by Michael White on Aug 25, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

The problem is that Pujols worst season is better than 90% of the league's best seasons

And by problem, I mean that he’s freaking awesome. I love the season that Votto is having, but I’m really rooting hard for Pujols to win another MVP this year.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 25, 2010 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Value of Lilly

I truly believe their is both sabermetric value in Kuroda and intangibles. What we don’t know is his true interest in staying and would he be willing to take a 1 year contract with perhaps an option. On Lilly I feel the same way and think you might be able to do a two year deal with an option for a third year, somewhere in the 8-10 million per year range. According to Monday and Steiner, Lilly has been helping Kershaw in his routine and I do believe their is something to the mentoring.

For all of the bad mouthing of Kemp, his key stats will finish allot closer to last years than many have predicted. Ethier will also finish close. If Loney has a good month of September, which I believe he usually does, he too will not be far off. Don’t think Loney will ever hit more than 20 HR.

While people at DT and other sites have done the nuclear winter analysis of next year. If the Dodgers can go for broke next year and sign a Lilly or kuroda as backup and find a powerful leftfielder. Dodgers could be something

by wineracquet on Aug 25, 2010 12:47 AM PDT reply actions  

Not to be a Debby Downer, but:

The 2011 Dodgers, even if they somehow land Lilly and Kuroda (which I don’t think will happen) still have:
- an anemic hitting firstbaseman
- an anemic hitting second baseman
- a shortstop who will be lucky to start 100 games
- an anemic hitting thirdbaseman
- an anemic hitting catcher who may or may not be able to play at all and/or Barajas
- either an anemic hitting or no left fielder
- a promising talent in center who will be coming of off his worst season
- a right fielder that is fine at the plate, not so much in the field
- No fifth starter…..again
- A bullpen that has two good pieces, a third good piece that may or may not be able to get into the country and not have personal issues, and a bunch of crap.
- A bench that consists of Jamie Carroll and………….Gibbons?
- No MLB or soon to be MLB ready talent in the minors

Yep, I’m excited.

by prosellis on Aug 25, 2010 1:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Should be read with sense of humor in tact. Might come off more harsh than I intend.

by prosellis on Aug 25, 2010 1:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously, they need to upgrade/replace:

An outfielder
3B
Catcher
3 SP

If they do that, they can probably get away with keeping Loney and the middle infield.

Can they find that many guys in a single winter?

People don't think it be like this, but it do.

by MartinGreen on Aug 25, 2010 5:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Considering we have been cutting payroll, it seems hard to believe that we would be able to fill all of these spots from outside the org. I am absolutely prepared for this scenario:

- A Martin non-tender while resigning Barajas for cheap to make a Barajas/Ellis catching duo.
- Resigning Padilla for 1 year with an option.
- Signing someone like Jeff Franceour for an OF spot
- Picking up a pitcher (Bonderman, Harang) for cheap
- Signing Lilly for our big FA prize
- Using Russ Mitchell as super-utility and eventual replacement for Blake

by OB12 on Aug 25, 2010 6:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

the upside to this

maybe greater opportunity for the Sands, TRobs, DeJesus and maybe a pitcher or three from the minors.
Maybe a new owner in town?

If I was GM, Ethier, Loney,Wintrow, Gordon all trade bait for young players with C,3B as priority…offer Lilly the arb, take the picks when he gets a 2,3yr deal from NYM and then big budget for next years draft…

by megaballs on Aug 25, 2010 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Signing Padilla, Lilly and Bonderman works for me.

by Michael White on Aug 25, 2010 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would add a serious back up shortstop to the list. I appreciate what Carroll has done, but I really don’t think he needs to be playing 50+ games at short, which is probably the type of use the backup SS is going to get next year.

by prosellis on Aug 25, 2010 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

We won't sign Lilly but we can offer him the arb

He’s 34 going on 35 but still very effective.I suspect he’ll go to the highest bidder on a 2 or 3 year deal…and his agent will market him as “Cliff Lee lite” to one of the losers…and it seems with all these holes and budget constraints, we won’t be able to keep up.

It might be a tough decision $wise just to offer the arb and get accepted or to pay out the bonus $ on the draft picks

Padilla hopefully has found a home here and who knows what Kuroda wants to do

by megaballs on Aug 25, 2010 8:47 AM PDT reply actions  

By “effective” I mean Lilly’s WHIP is very attractive the past 4 years with good amount of innings
He’s #6 in the MLB in WHIP right now

by megaballs on Aug 25, 2010 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Type A:
Lilly
Manny

Type B:
Kuroda
Padilla
Dotel

It would excellent to get 3 picks out of these. Lilly & Padilla getting arb offers would make the most sense. They both could accept and that would be fine by me. We could get strong performances from both on one year deals. Payroll would take about a $20M hit, though.

I was going to list Podsednik as well but I’m not sure if he still qualifies as a “B”

by silverwidow on Aug 25, 2010 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is Padilla going to have enough innings to be B?

by delias man on Aug 25, 2010 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good point, his value is likely slipping. I think he was a mid range B at the start of August.

by silverwidow on Aug 25, 2010 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

The only one of these guys getting arbitration is Padilla.

Unless money suddenly falls from the heavens we can’t afford to toss 10-15 million to Lilly or Kuroda next year. And if there’s anything better than giving Octavio Dotel four million dollars, it’s giving him six million.

Basically we’re doomed and our best option is to pray for divine intervention.

by regfairfield on Aug 25, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lilly’s next year salary would basically replace Kuroda’s in the payroll, and Padilla should make about what he made this year, so I don’t think it’s all that big of a stretch.

80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.

by G.Scott on Aug 25, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

So we’d have the same team as we have now then? Hot diggity damn sign me up.

by regfairfield on Aug 25, 2010 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Except we replace Kuroda with John Ely.

by regfairfield on Aug 25, 2010 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly

and Pods/Manny with Jay Gibbons.

My point was to say that Lilly accepting arbitration (I don’t think he would) is not the worst thing.

80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.

by G.Scott on Aug 25, 2010 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not a huge fan of Lilly as a long term Dodger (fly ball pitcher + a fairly home run prone stadium + our outfield defense = disaster waiting to happen) but I guess it wouldn’t doom us.

The Padres have been successful partly because they abuse their stadium to its fullest. I think the only way we can be successful next year is if we do the same thing, and Ryan Theriot actually might be the start of this.

Dodger Stadium suppresses everything but home runs, so the best thing to do would get a bunch of ground ball pitchers that don’t allow home runs, then build up the infield defense to catch the ground balls.

Off season would go something like move Blake to being the professional hitter off the bench, then sign Inge, Westbrook, Webb and I dunno, Padilla. It’s not a complete plan, it takes a lot to go right, but hell, it’s at least a plan.

by regfairfield on Aug 25, 2010 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought Depo

was going to implement that plan until he signed Jeff Kent.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 25, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Even with Kent I think that was the plan. The man was underrated defensively and didn’t really fall apart until he came to the Dodgers.

by regfairfield on Aug 25, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jeff Kent was Jamey Carroll defensively

no range, good hands.

80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.

by G.Scott on Aug 25, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jamey has range for a 2nd baseman

not for a SS.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 25, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

right

Jeff Kent was built to play defensively as a 1B. like you said, no range to his left.

80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.

by G.Scott on Aug 25, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

The defensive metrics did not really jibe with the man

he had good hands, good arm, could not turn the DP very well and was total crap going to his left from day one. I’m sorry I remember the metrics but then watched him play so I’m not buying he was okay when he showed up.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 25, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

The metrics say he was okay before he showed up, it’s when he got here that things went to shit.

by regfairfield on Aug 25, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

DeJesus

should work as well as Theriot at 25% the cost if defense is going to be the main ingredient.

If Russ Branyan could play 1st base in the manner you’d want a defense first infield to play he’d be solid this team. But he can’t. So you could also bring in Kotchman for probably another 25% of the cost of Loney since he will be non-tendered by Seattle and can’t expect to sign for more then 1 – 1.5.

Can Teahan handle 3rd base enough to be the platoon partner in this scenario? He is one of the few left handed 3rd baseman who might be available.

In any plan like this the outfield has to kick ass, and as we’ve seen, not sure Andre and Kemp are upto the task without a Werth like outfielder to help them out.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 25, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’d be one terrible offense. I’m more willing to attribute the Padres success as a sign of the coming armaggedon than to their plan actually working.

80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.

by G.Scott on Aug 25, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

It is the same as this year
Kotchman = Loney
DeJesus = Theroit
Furcal – Furcal
Teahen/Blake > Blake

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 25, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

As I said

the other outfielder will have to be a plus offensive player.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 25, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fair enough. I forget just how bad our infield offense is.

80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.

by G.Scott on Aug 25, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d much rather let Kyle Russell (I mix up Kyle Russell and Russ Mitchell, correct me if I have the wrong one) play RF and just go all pitching and defense if that were the case.

80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.

by G.Scott on Aug 25, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m a big Kyle Russell fan, but he could be the ultimate in maddening. The strikeouts could get absolutely silly, but a plus glove with some pop in the bat might offset it. Still torn.

by prosellis on Aug 25, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

he's doing better lately

so maybe he’s starting to figure something out.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 25, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Padres did get help by every fucking player having a career year, but they at least set themselves up to get lucky.

I’m not saying this is a great plan, but it’s better than “fuck it, bring the same team back minus Kuroda and Manny”.

by regfairfield on Aug 25, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also

is it just me, or has their DL been completely clear for most of the year? Admittedly, I don’t pay much attention to the NL West AAA division.

80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.

by G.Scott on Aug 25, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I disagree

1st – not a career year
2nd – not a career year
SS – starting SS is now in AAA
3rd – sure, but he’s young, every year should be a career year for a while

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 25, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Left out a word: defensively.

It’s not quite as absurd as it was around the All Star break but every starter except Gonzalez has a career high UZR. Hell, Miguel Tejada has been a plus defender for them.

by regfairfield on Aug 25, 2010 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d be willing to let DeJesus play 2B, non-tender Theriot, Martin, and Sherrill to possibly free up some money.

by OB12 on Aug 25, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I figure having a huge park means you can get away with having guys like Wolf and Lilly around. Hunting for groundball pitchers works better for clubs like Houston who can’t afford to have every fly ball be a home run. We can have guys give up 380 foot shots to the gaps and they’ll get caught. I haven’t looked up the percentages, but I have to believe that’s at least part of the reason Padilla sucked in Texas and has thrived here.

80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.

by G.Scott on Aug 25, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dodger Stadium is a home run friendly park though.

There’s some weird blips in the data which makes since since home run park factors are pretty small sample, but since 2004, Dodger Stadium has a home run park factor over one every year but 2008 and 2009.

by regfairfield on Aug 25, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

If that is based on home runs being hit, rather than size/weather factors

then I’m going to go ahead and blame it on our shitty pitching in a couple of those years.

80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.

by G.Scott on Aug 25, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s home runs hit at Dodger Stadium versus home runs hit outside of Dodger Stadium.

by regfairfield on Aug 25, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

gotcha.

that’s weird then. Why is it that pitchers seemingly come here on one year deals to revive their value? I love the oddities of this sport.

80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.

by G.Scott on Aug 25, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Because despite Dodger Stadium allowing above average home runs it’s still a huge pitchers park. It’s incredibly good at suppressing doubles and triples, and singles are slightly down.

by regfairfield on Aug 25, 2010 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Garland had a smart agent

If I was a pitcher’s agent it shouldn’t be brain surgery to figure out best where to plant your boy for a year or two. GM’s may say they understand park effects but I’m not sure they really do.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 25, 2010 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Again, the pattern holds

There is one team in the NL that is tracking to have 5 starters with more than 25 starts, your San Diego Padres. And even if two of your starters are Wade LeBlanc and Kevin Correira, the value of not having to go outside and get another starter during the season is probably more important for a team of lesser means than one like the Dodgers.

The Twins and Rays will come close to that scenario too.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 25, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

5 starters have made all but 2 starts

for the Padres, Tim Stauffer and TCY made the other 2.

Ramon Ortiz made the same number of starts for the Dodgers.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 25, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought the whole knock against Kershaw was that his ridiculously low hr/fb rate was that he pitched in Dodger Stadium. If Dodger Stadium is prone to the homerun (which I don’t doubt if you say it is), then I am even less impressed by xFIP and think that reducing hr/fb rates is more of a skill than some would lead us to believe.

by prosellis on Aug 25, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

xFIP would be fine if it just accounted for infield flyballs and popouts.

The underlying theory behind it (fly balls to the outfield tend to be home runs 11-12% of the time) is perfectly fine.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 25, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

But wouldn’t it also stand to reason that a pitcher who generates a lot of infield flies and popouts would also be giving up fly balls with less on them than a guy who routinely gives up lots of long flyballs? I get that a guy who is routinely watching his outfielders hit the track is flirting with danger, but I don’t see a guy who gives up a lot of flyballs to the middle of the outfield the same way.

by prosellis on Aug 25, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

for the most part the flyballs to the outfield even out.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 25, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is tERA the one that accounts for infield flies?

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 25, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

NPPUT

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 25, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

On topic

The Dodgers All Decade Outfield:

Sheffield-08 Manny-Andre (?)

How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?

by Josie Becker on Aug 25, 2010 10:48 AM PDT reply actions  

Shawn Green 2001 over Andre.

Put 2009 Kemp in center is another possibility.

by regfairfield on Aug 25, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hmm..

Shawn Green 2001 – 6th in MVP Voting – .297/.372/.598
Andre Ethier 2009 – 6th in MVP Voting – .272/.361/.508

yeah you’re right. Manny ’08 – Shawn Green ’01 – Sheffield ’00

How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?

by Josie Becker on Aug 25, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

how could you leave Juan Pierre off this list?

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Aug 25, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Can you use an outfielder who only played two months?

I’d consider Manny ineligible.
Sheff 00 in LF
Kemp 09 in CF
Green 01 in RF

by meercatjohn on Aug 25, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know my bias

But if we’re DQing Manny, I’d rather go

Sheff 00 in LF
Green 01 in CF
Andre 09 in RF

cause I love Dingers!

How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?

by Josie Becker on Aug 25, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

What a terrible defensive OF. Sheff had a cannon but Green in CF would be a nightmare.

80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.

by G.Scott on Aug 25, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Actually, without looking I feel like Andre may have more CF experience than Shawn.

80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.

by G.Scott on Aug 25, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

With looking

Shawn Green has started 71 games in center field.

He started 40 in 2005 for Arizona.

by Alex41592 on Aug 25, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ouch. Forgot about his time in AZ.

80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.

by G.Scott on Aug 25, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

HA!

Take that Great Scott

How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?

by Josie Becker on Aug 25, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s what she said?

80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.

by G.Scott on Aug 25, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I love Dingers

and I’m ambivalent about doubles becoming triples. But sure, we can put Andre in CF

How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?

by Josie Becker on Aug 25, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

hey Josie

mention this in the minor league thread, but did you see your Gibson video was mentioned on Yahoo?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 25, 2010 11:11 AM PDT reply actions  

WHAT?!?

How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?

by Josie Becker on Aug 25, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Barely scooped me talking about you posting this in the other topic, damn!

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 25, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

mwa ha ha

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 25, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Josie

Tommy Blackjack pointed out that your video had an article devoted to it on yahoo, that’s so awesome.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/ModernTube-Kirk-Gibson-s-88-World-Series-homer?urn=mlb-265076

Also, haven’t been able to send your poster out yet this week, it’s been very busy for me, but I’ll get that out tomorrow for you for sure.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 25, 2010 11:11 AM PDT reply actions  

No worries

but again, OH. MY. GOD

just kidding, I totally knew this was gonna happen which is why I didn’t self promote. Don’t be a whore, be a pimp, was a lesson I learned back when I drew a webcomic

How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?

by Josie Becker on Aug 25, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

you had a webcomic?

what was the name? I may have read it, i used to read tons of them.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 25, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

It was called

Waist High, basically my Calvin and Hobbes tribute. It was on comicgenesis so I doubt you came across it

How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?

by Josie Becker on Aug 25, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

i've read quite a few comics on comicgenesis

though don’t ask me to name which ones they were, as I just know comic names, not what site hosted them. Is it still online?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 25, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

It starts from the end

which should just be obvious tribute wise. The earlier you go, the more nervous I get : http://waisthigh.comicgenesis.com/

How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?

by Josie Becker on Aug 25, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

The art makes me cringe

But this is still my favorite:

How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?

by Josie Becker on Aug 25, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I see nothing

thats either unintentionally funny, or intentionally funny.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 25, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks!

How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?

by Josie Becker on Aug 25, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cool beans

Wish I could do that. Ever thought of doing a Dodger Comic Strip? Kemp moving a trash can in the clubhouse, So much material.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 25, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately

I’m rubbish at drawing adults and hats, but who knows right?

How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?

by Josie Becker on Aug 25, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

sad piece, but it's nice that you had that kind of friend.

I remember reading a quip one time that Peanuts was the first great newspaper comic, and Calvin and Hobbes was the last.

I’ll always remember reading Watterson detailing why he would never lisence Calvin and Hobbes for anything other than comics. No cartoons, no merchandise, nothing beyond that. I remember being a little dissapointed(as I loved cartoons and C&H) but I had to admire his willingness to stick to his princeples.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 25, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've been lucky enough

to have great friends. I just wish some of them were still alive and that the others hadn’t left Los Angeles. Calvin and Hobbes for a time was simply brilliant and made me laugh just about every day. I can’t look at Hobbes without thinking of my friend, they really were very similar. Like with many men of his era, I’ll always wonder what he could have been without his life having been interrupted by the war. We ask so much of 17-18 year old boys because we can, but it isn’t right.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 25, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

indeed

my cousin was in the Iraq war. Thank God he came home alive. He was wounded over there, but not seriously. He was different when he came back, but has since become more and more like his old self. He has a kid that he adores, and will soon be marrying the mother of said child.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 25, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Vin Scully is My Homebody

also picked it up. We’re going Viral baby!

http://www.vinscullyismyhomeboy.com/2010/08/1988-dodgers-vs-as-world-series-rbi.html

How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?

by Josie Becker on Aug 25, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Actually

Yahoo! gave credit to Roberto instead of you. Do pimps care about getting credit?

80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.

by G.Scott on Aug 25, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

it gives credit to his source

it doesn’t say Roberto made it

How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?

by Josie Becker on Aug 25, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

you didn’t answer my pimp question

80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.

by G.Scott on Aug 25, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

so long as

people are looking at it, it doesn’t matter

How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?

by Josie Becker on Aug 25, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Roberto

gave credit to JosiePosieMosie

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 25, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

suck it Bob Costas

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Aug 25, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

lol, figures, no one does anything just for the kicks anymore ;P

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 25, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, most definitely, Livan Hernandez

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 25, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

How lucky has he been?

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 25, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Manny

is on waivers

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 25, 2010 12:18 PM PDT reply actions  

bout f'ing gorram friggin time

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 25, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

they probably

just wanted to give him some major league games. not like he’s done anything but still….

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 25, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

He looks incredibly red in that picture.

by MR.F. on Aug 25, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Was LaRussa the passenger?

by KellyStephen on Aug 25, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

wow

he looks soooooo wasted in that pic

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 25, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder if McLaughlin was the PBP guy

when Josh Hancock killed himself drunk driving.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Aug 25, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Per Dylan Hernandez:

Casey Blake, Jay Gibbons and Scott Podsednik are also on waivers.

Would be shocked if Blake was claimed.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 25, 2010 12:54 PM PDT reply actions  

I thought Blake already cleared. Someone be lying.

by silverwidow on Aug 25, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

heard that too

wassupwithdat?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 25, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Factor in

source was my brother, who heard via XM radio.

We are already two degrees into a game of telephone.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 25, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe these are

irrevocable waivers for Casey…….

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Aug 25, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

That would be awesome.

by silverwidow on Aug 25, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Doesn’t Blake for Kenshin Kawakami seem like a decent deal?

by OB12 on Aug 25, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 25, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

think anyone would claim Gibbons or Pods?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 25, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jay Jaffe response cracked me up

@jay_jaffe EVERYTHING MUST GO AT CRAZY NEDDIE’S!!! RT @dylanohernandez: Casey Blake, Jay Gibbons and Scott Podsednik are also on waivers. #Dodgers

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Aug 25, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

YOU WANT GRIT!!!!

WE GOT ALL KINDS OF GRIT!!!!!!!!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 25, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

are the Dodgers putting more players on waivers than most of the other teams? I wonder if anyone is keeping track.
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Aug 25, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

no way to know

isn’t it supposed to be confidential?

80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.

by G.Scott on Aug 25, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

suppose to be

But somehow we hear a lot of names of players on waivers. Not sure if we are hearing all the names or just some. But it doesn’t appear to be confidential.

by Xeifrank on Aug 25, 2010 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would bet money that the Dodgers waiver maneuverings are standard, in that a ton of players get placed on waivers just to gauge interest, because there’s no downside.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 25, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kind of what I thought

- i just didn’t understand the “Sell, Sell, Sell” tweets I am receiving when most teams are likely doing the same – or more.

by Xeifrank on Aug 25, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Probably because...

that’s what they want the Dodgers to do.

@neufaustcan

by uclatroy on Aug 25, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think they are more making fun of the GM more than anything. :)

by Xeifrank on Aug 25, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

/Ned throws Casey Blake off roof

by Michael White on Aug 25, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

he needs a

wacky-wailing-inflatable arm-flailing-tube man

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 25, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

he already has Casey Blake hitting 5th though.

80 percent of my job is getting other people to do theirs.

by G.Scott on Aug 25, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

He wouldn’t make it to them anyway.

by silverwidow on Aug 25, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

that's what I thought

I think he’d probably clear waivers anyway

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 25, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

wait

I think i just contradicted myself…..yeah….i did….oh well

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 25, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

No way

every team in the running but the Rays could use him.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 25, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

i just realized I was wrong. Jon W. had good post that Kuroda might potentially bring more of a return than Manny.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 25, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Since Manny won’t bring much of a return anyway (aside from money), I would agree.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 25, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

This whole waiver thing should get it's own post

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 25, 2010 1:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Isn't that what you fancy Mods are for?

I don’t pay you to sit around and chat the day away!

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 25, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously

I totally glanced at the ads that one time. I’m paying for this ship!

How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?

by Josie Becker on Aug 25, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

However Eric has one scheduled to run at 02:00 so no sense in starting a thread then leaving all the thoughts behind. Not that I want to tell anyone what to do, but I’d wait until 02:00 to start making conjecture threads about the possible destinations for these waiver moves.

What it does say is that Ned has done an about face from his comment last week. Which is good that he is flexible enough to understand that he’s on a sinking ship and the best thing to do know is throw things overboard in an effort to lighten the ship and help keep it afloat until help arrives this winter.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 25, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah it’s glad to see he’s not Ed Wade or the previous Houston GM and just keeps buying on a team that clearly isn’t going to be a winner.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 25, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did the Dodgers really push back Billingsley's next start

because of the calf?

@truebluela #Dodgers / #Rockies pitching matchups this weekend: FRI: Kershaw/Ubaldo; SAT: Billingsley/Chacin; SUN: Lilly/Hammel
or because Joe and Rick are setting up the playoff rotation!

Love the Lilly-Hammer matchup; makes me nostalgic for the 1994 winter olympics.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Aug 25, 2010 1:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Kershaw vs. Ubaldo 2

Electric Arm Boogaloo

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 25, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Time for Kershaw to get win numero dos against Ubaldo :)

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 25, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

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Italics denote estimates
Pos No Player 2012 Salary
C 17 Ellis $500,000 team control
1B 7 Loney $6,375,000
2B 14 Ellis $2,500,000
3B 5 Uribe $8,000,000
SS 9 Gordon $485,000 team control
LF 21 Rivera $4,000,000
CF 27 Kemp $10,000,000
RF 16 Ethier $10,950,000

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OF 10 Gwynn $850,000
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IF 12 Sellers $485,000 team control

SP 22 Kershaw $6,000,000
SP 58 Billingsley $9,000,000
SP 29 Lilly $12,000,000
SP 37 Capuano $3,000,000
SP 44
Harang $3,000,000

CL 54 Guerra $485,000 team control
RHP 74
Jansen $500,000 team control
RHP 55 Guerrier $4,750,000
RHP Coffey $1,000,000
RHP 66 MacDougal $650,000
LHP 57 Elbert $485,000 team control
RHP 36
Hawksworth $500,000 team control

TJ 41 De La Rosa $485,000 team control



Manny $8,087,432 deferred


Andruw $3,375,000 deferred


Pierre $3,050,000 deferred
Furcal $3,000,000 deferred
Kuroda $2,000,000 deferred
Garland $1,500,000 option buyout
Blake $1,250,000 option buyout

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27
61 Alberto Castillo lhp
36
60 Matt Chico lhp
29
35 John Grabow lhp
33
59 Angel Guzman rhp
30
47 Wil Ledezma lhp
31
72 Shane Lindsay rhp
27
62 Fernando Nieve rhp 29
73 Scott Rice lhp 30
70 Will Savage rhp
27
71 Ryan Tucker rhp
25

30 Josh Bard c 34
82 Griff Erickson c 24
81 Matt Wallachc 26
67 Jeff Baisley 3b/1b 29
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