Dodgers Open Series With Rockies With Kershaw Vs. Ubaldo II
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 3:44 PM PDT
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PrintThe Dodgers head into Colorado trying to keep a rather magnificent streak alive. They have won their last 10 series against Colorado, winning 23 of their last 31 encounters overall. Last year, the Dodgers won 14 out of 18, and there was a pattern to the games: the two teams were relatively close for the first six innings (the Dodgers outscored the Rockies 58-47), but the Dodgers found separation in the final frames, outscoring Colorado 47 to 16, including a remarkable 28-5 in the seventh inning alone.
This year, both teams have been close to one another pretty much all game. The Rockies have actually outscored the Dodgers this season 34-30, but the Dodgers have won six of nine games. Since Jim Tracy took over as manager of the Rockies, the Dodgers and Rockies have split the first two games of all six series, with the Dodgers taking the series finale every single time.
Tonight's series opener features a supreme pitching matchup, with Clayton Kershaw and Ubaldo Jimenez squaring off for the second time this season. Back on May 9, Kershaw pitched eight scoreless innings to defeat Ubaldo and the Rockies 2-0. It was the only time the Rockies lost a start by Jimenez in the first three months of the season. Both starters allowed two hits on that day, and even though today's game is in Colorado runs figure to be at a premium again.
Through his first 14 starts, Ubaldo was 13-1 with a 1.15 ERA and looked simply inhuman. Since then, in 11 starts, Jimenez is 4-3 with a 4.90 ERA. However, in reality he hasn't really been that different a pitcher, but has seen both ends of the "luck" spectrum:
| Starts | Rec | HR/9 | BB/9 | K/9 | WHIP | BABIP | ERA | FIP |
| 14 | 13-1 | 0.26 | 3.20 | 7.82 | 0.997 | 0.245 | 1.15 | 2.94 |
| 11 | 4-3 | 0.66 | 3.97 | 9.00 | 1.265 | 0.291 | 4.90 | 3.48 |
Hopefully he doesn't get it tonight, but whenever Jimenez gets his next victory this season, he will set a Rockies' record for wins in a season, breaking his current tie with Jeff Francis, Kevin Ritz, and Old Friend Pedro Astacio.
Kershaw is 3-0 against the Rockies this season, allowing a total of two runs in 20 innings. He has allowed no runs in four of his last six starts against the Rockies. The only Dodger pitcher to ever get more than three wins in a season against the Rockies was Brad Penny, who was 5-0 against Colorado in 2006.
Lineups
| Dodgers | Rockies | |||
| LF | Podsednik |
2B | Young | |
| 2B | Theriot | CF | Fowler | |
| RF | Ethier | LF | Gonzalez | |
| CF | Kemp | SS | Tulowitzki | |
| 1B | Loney | 3B | Mora | |
| 3B | Blake | 1B | Helton | |
| SS | Carroll | RF | Spilborghs |
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| C | Barajas | C | Olivo | |
| P | Kershaw |
P | Ubaldo | |
Notes
- Yesterday's home run by Casey Blake was his first to the right of center field this season.
- Matt Swartz of Baseball Prospectus wrote extensively on the value of defensive shifts, and the relative value of lefties versus righties in clutch situations.
- Tom Tango, co-author of "The Book: Playing the Percentages in Baseball," has started his 2010 scouting reports, "by the fans, for the fans." Be sure to share your input about the Dodgers here. (Thanks to Xeifrank for the reminder, and Jon Weisman for the second reminder!)
Game Time: 6:10 p.m.
TV: Prime Ticket
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the 25%
being representative of the chance that the Dodgers win 3 of the next 4 games.
And speaking of things that are unlikely, think about this- on Sunday afternoon, the Dodgers were hitting the road, their tail between their legs, eight games behind the Wild Card leading Phillies. The Phils were hosting the AAAA team known as the Houston Astros in Philadelphia. Of the seven total games that the Dodgers and Phillies played in that timeframe, at least four, possibly as many as six, looked to favor the wrong team. Yet all seven went our way. ALL SEVEN. On top of that, Halladay lost to JA Happ! For us, that’d be almost like Kershaw losing to J-Mac. And while a Brett Myers win should never be celebrated, that HAD to hurt them a little extra, too- kind of like if we’d had lost to Randy Wolf
That looks so weird to me
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
27-7
Matthew, you mentioned the Dodgers should go 27-7 to finish the year, which would get them to 93 wins.
Since moving to LA, only the 1977 team had a 27-7 stretch. Actually two stretches, sort of. One ran from April 12 to May 20, and one that ran from April 13 to May 21.
Their best 34-game stretch to end a season since moving to LA was 24-10, in 1965
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
That's going to be a hard pull without ManRam and Ted Lilly on your roster the final month
Given Manny’s not in the lineup tonight, looks like a dead cert that if the White Sox don’t come up with a decent trade offer, that the McCourt’s just let Manny walk.
Over at the Row, we’re suggesting the Rox put in a claim on Lilly….
not as punny as SDcat00
I don’t think Lilly or Kuroda get moved unless the Dodgers get wowed with a deal.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
How so? They don't want to pay Lilly $2m for the rest of the year if they're out of it...
…and there’s no way in hell they offer arb, because Lilly’s just as likely to accept it as not.
All imho, of course.
not as punny as SDcat00
Yes, they did. That doesn't really change much
Because the McCourt’s are as likely to keep that money in pocket, and thus consider the whole Lilly merry go round an exercise in profit.
Again, just speculation, really, but he’s not on waivers for nothing.
not as punny as SDcat00
A lot of people are on waivers for nothing. It’s zero risk. Wait and see who is interested, see if you can get valuable pieces going forward. If not, no big deal.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Right, right, I know what August trade waviers for nothing
But there’s a reason he’s on there at the very last moment where he can go on a waiver claim before no longer being eligible for postseason rosters. They specifically were inviting claims.
I’m convinced if the Dodgers lose 2 of 3 this weekend and can’t work a trade, they’ll let him go on the waiver claim.
not as punny as SDcat00
There is a chance, however small that they will offer him arbitration. They will not move Lilly unless they can get players (or player) for him.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
The chance is above zero, yes
But the Dodgers are shedding payroll, and Lilly’s in line to get around $9-10m next season. It strikes me as highly unlikely the ownership’s going to want to chance Lilly accepting.
not as punny as SDcat00
Thank you for your opinion of the team's payroll
I agree that Lilly is likely to accept, but the better he pitches the less likely that becomes.
Believe me, this has been discussed time and time again here already.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s on waivers in case he clears. If he gets claimed they will not dump him for money.
by Michael White on Aug 27, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Patrick O'Neal is in Denver
Manny Ramirez not in lineup for Dodgers. 1 for 13 vs Ubaldo. Waiting to get explanation from Torre.
Gurnick tweeted those numbers too. If that’s the reasoning, the Dodgers are fucked anyway.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I have to admit that I'm kind of with Torre on this one
I was at the game at the end of the season last year, where Manny struck out four times against Jimenez. It was BAD. The only time I’d ever heard booing like that at Dodger Stadium for a home team player was Andruw Jones.
He might be of better use late in the game, against a relief pitcher.
Horse shit
If Manny is available to play, he plays.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I should note, this is an ideal world. It’s very likely that Torre is in fact using 13 AB as his reasoning for sitting Manny. If so, he should jump out of the plane on the way home.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Kemp has good numbers. Pods and Ethier are left handed.
It’s crazy but not Torre crazy. Maybe he plans to play him in the day game.
Crazy shit has happened before.
Dodger logic
We can’t trade Manny; we need him to win.
[Don’t play Manny]
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Life imitating art?
I bet Ken Levine was the one who wrote that joke on the Simpsons about having Homer pinch hit for Darryl Strawberry, because the other team was bringing in a left handed pitcher. If the Dodgers lose tonight, Ken will get to analyze the decision to rest Manny on Dodger Talk.
It all comes full circle.
Speculation, but...
…he’s out of the lineup to avoid injury before the Dodgers let the White Sox take him on the waiver claim (or manage to get the trade done).
Because if he hurts himself, the White Sox can drop the claim, and the Dodgers will be on the hook for the rest of the millions with no performance or return.
The Dodgers may not be giving up the season yet, but they’re definitely cutting bait on Manny.
He’ll be available to PH, tho.
not as punny as SDcat00
It is likely though that the two sides are close enough to a deal though that that is why he is out.
Which we discussed last thread.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I should mention Lilly's been an absolute stud for you guys....very impressed
I know he’s pretty darn decent for an aging arm, but I don’t think anyone expected that
not as punny as SDcat00
I wonder what delias would say
about me watching a live stream of people playing starcraft 2….
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
The Gibson HR recreated in RBI baseball
http://kotaku.com/5623671/kirk-gibsons-home-run-recreated-in-rbi-baseball
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
Marty, Marty, Marty…that was created by our own Josie Becker!
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Well I can't be expected
to know everything!
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
LOL
It was big thread topic because she was creating it while talking to us. If Eric had not been afraid of lawyers we could have had an exclusive.
way to stay on board Marty : )
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 27, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Mark Prior- Orange County Flyers stats
out of the bullpen- 8IP 4H 1R 0ER 4BB 16K
by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 27, 2010 4:16 PM PDT reply actions
I'm assuming it wasn't one game, rather a season's worth of numbers
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Mike Leake has a tired shoulder
no shit the way they have used him
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
yup
I’ll take Joe Torre, his bullpen bullshit and all the rest of the Green Tea-induced insanity any day, over a manager that wears out his young pitchers.
From Dylan Hernandez
Manny is on the field warming up with the team.
So those who know more than me
say we do trade Manny, any ideas as to who Ned targets in the Chisox System?
Andruw Jones
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
I’d like Teahan
Others would like Brent Morel
Maybe a Flower
but as Eric and Reg have said, don’t expect much, and they are probably right. So if this is just salary relief I’d just assume keep him because I could less about saving Frank McCourt money.
frank mccourt's money
but think about all the baseball fields they could build!! think of the CHILDREN
I am probably pretty late to chip in on this (as usual)
we should just deal him right now regardless of how the team fairs in Colorado. If we wait and the White Sox lay an egg this weekend, they might lose interest and back off. The chances of winning the wild card are still pretty slim anyways. Get something for him while you still can or salary dump at the least.
Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?
There is nothing to lose by waiting until Tuesday. The White Sox can be swept by the Yankees this weekend and Ned can give Manny to them anyway.
However, if Ned and company are blown away by a deal. Do it and do it now.
There is money
each day may matter to Frank
sure
but if we can get anything for him, we should go for it while we still can.
Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?
Barring some very unlikely event (even less likely than making the playoffs)
We’ll still be able to get for him on Monday what we can get for him now. Remember, two years ago almost to the day, the Dodgers were 4.5 games out, and working on an eight game losing streak. By the time they won the division, they were four games up when they clinched. We can say, “Yeah, but it’s different this time,” and it always is- in hindsight. And yes, there are four teams ahead of us this time instead of one. But they’re so close together, that conceivably can be flipped within days. We shouldn’t kid ourselves into thinking this is likely, but it’s reasonable again to act like they have a shot, simply because they do.
Bottom line- trade Manny right now ONLY if it’s the kind of deal that will have the South Side Sox members cursing and swearing Ken Williams up and down for the rest of the season (more so than usual). Definitely not for a straight salary dump, especially considering that money will probably go to divorce lawyers instead of helping the team, anyway. But most important of all, we still have a few days to sort it out.
Hey did everyone see this?
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?topic_id=12678984&tcid=ciscoheartbeat
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
Hmm, let's try that again
Did everyone see this exclusive from MLB on how they get the data for Gameday at pitch-effects. It’s kinda cool if you use Gameday and want to know how it works
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 27, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
are you stalking me?
Cause I mean, thats me. Totally.
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
PitchFX is awesome
I want to get a job working on that
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
I like
the pitch FX, the tech is pretty out there
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 27, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
wishful thinking
that the Dodgers just played a game that only Ken Gurnick seems to know about:
The Dodgers have hit four homers in a game for the first time since Opening Day.
about 1 hour ago via Twitter for iPhone
Didn't we do that earlier this week?
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
Saturday?
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
I have used Twitter for iPhone. It has a habit of saving old drafts and sending them at weird times.
Gurnick tweeted the same on Saturday.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Josie Topic
Adjusting bicycle breaks is going to be the death of me, raising boots, pulling cables taught, nothing seems to actually make the breaks stop the wheel from spinning
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
Torre benched Manny because of Jimenez.
by Alex41592 on Aug 27, 2010 5:24 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
“Manny is out of the lineup because he hasn’t been back long enough and I don’t think he is sharp enough to face Jimenez,” Torre said.
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/mlb/news/story?id=5504764
by Alex41592 on Aug 27, 2010 5:26 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I like to look at this another way
Torre has more confidence in Podsednik hitting Jimenez, than Manny
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 27, 2010 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I tweeted a bunch about it, apparently the 5 tweets were enough to piss off one follower, who is now an ex-follower.
It’s an absurdly stupid move IMO.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
If Manny isn’t sharp, then when the fuck will he be sharp? Get his ass out there and play him until he breaks.
Times are desperate. Wins are needed. Act like it, Joe.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
it could have just been a spammer. And that’s good right, less spam?
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 27, 2010 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
A totally stupid move
Exactly. You let him play and you take your chances. If you are playing both Ethier and Loney, why add another banjo hitting lefty. If you are concerned that Manny looks bad, then let Reed Johnson play!
TODAY IN MANNY
1. The White Sox want Manny
2. The Dodgers might want Manny, too
3. Whether the Dodgers want Manny depends in no small part on what Manny does in the next couple days
4. But Manny isn’t sharp enough to start today
Do I have it right?
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Aug 27, 2010 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Say, friends, you know what else isn’t sharp enough to face Ubaldo Jimenez? Bigelow Green Tea. That’s why I only drink gin when the Dodgers are up against him without Manny in the lineup for no good reason.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Aug 27, 2010 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
and Humma artfully brings it full circle. Well done.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions
OMG
who will shill for Bigelow when Torre leaves? Tommy Lasorda? You think he drinks green tea?
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 27, 2010 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions
make it so
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 27, 2010 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions
From Dylan
Dodgers GM Ned Colletti said he probably wouldn’t deal any players if the team remains in contention.
by Alex41592 on Aug 27, 2010 5:37 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
OT: Phil
How close did you come on your work Facebook group bet from a couple of weeks ago?
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
we got to 180
70 short but they still took me to lunch. Store opens in two weeks.
On the plus side we also increased our TBLA facebook membership but then Maddz left and the site is afloat in shark filled waters with nothing but a half eaten paddle.
wait
meercatjohn is Phil, and Phil is meercatjohn?
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 27, 2010 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
meercatjohn made a video using RBI baseball set to Scully’s call of Gibson’s HR.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
oh
can I see it?
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 27, 2010 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of 1988 Game 1
saw this last night
From Bob Costas:
So, the Dodgers brought in Debbie Gibson. If only they had Kirk Gibson.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Sure she did
meercat and Kavula!
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Aug 27, 2010 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions
That's great to hear
Yeah, Maddz is a deserter!
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Kershaw’s first inning streak ends tonight!
by Alex41592 on Aug 27, 2010 5:39 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Jim Tracy
moves his head like a gorilla. Steve Lyons sure loves pinstripes.
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
Of all the White Sox prospects I do agree that Morel seems most intriguing
His career is due to mushroom.
{ducks}
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
So you're saying he'll get the shitake kicked out of him?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
by underdog on Aug 27, 2010 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Matt Magill
5IP 4H 2R 2ER 1BB 10K
Nice start
by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 27, 2010 5:43 PM PDT reply actions
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