White Sox Awarded Claim On Manny Ramirez, Now We Wait
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 11:50 AM PDT
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PrintThe claim of Manny Ramirez has been awarded to the White Sox, per Jayson Stark of ESPN. The Dodgers now have until Tuesday to work out a trade with Chicago or simply let Ramirez and his salary go to the White Sox for nothing in return.
The earliest Manny could be on the White Sox is reasonably tomorrow, with 37 days left in the regular season, and the latest is Tuesday night, with 33 days left in the regular season. Salaries are pro-rated over the 183-day season, so what's left of Manny's $20 million is between $3,606,557 and $4.043,716.
Ramirez has a no-trade clause, meaning he would have to approve any deal, but perhaps the biggest obstacle to a trade is the thought by the Dodgers that they are still in the race. They stand five games out of the wild card lead and trail four teams, but happen to play three of those teams ahead of them in the next nine games. Luckily, the Dodgers don't have to decide until Tuesday, so the club has four more games to figure out whether or not they are in the race.
For the record, Baseball Prospectus has the Dodgers' chances of making the playoffs at 3.47%, as of this morning.
The tragically comical portion of a potential transaction with Chicago is that the White Sox could have each of the last three big free agent outfielders signed by the Dodgers, with Manny joining Juan Pierre and Andruw Jones. The Dodgers will be paying Pierre through 2012, Ramirez through 2013, and Jones through 2014.
In 221 games with the Dodgers, Manny Ramirez has hit .323/.433/.580 with 44 home runs and 156 RBI. However, he has missed 122 of 290 games since the beginning of 2009, either due to suspension or injuries.
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White Soxes
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
I'm intrigued by this idea.
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
Why?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I don't know
I just am
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
I just saw this new post, wanted to pimp my fanshot again before it got burried, lol
http://www.truebluela.com/2010/8/27/1654321/who-will-be-going-where-in-our
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
say we got this kid Morel
do you give him Manny’s spot on the 40-man and bring him up in Sept?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 27, 2010 11:54 AM PDT reply actions
Wish Miguel Gonzalez was hitting better
A 19 year old catcher throwing out 40% of base runners otherwise appeals to me.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Aug 27, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
by the way
is he LH or RH?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 27, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
what'd I ever do to you Tripon?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 27, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
First off
I would lower my expectations of anyone in return for Manny. If it was a straight salary dump, the Dodgers could just let him go.
By pulling back, neither team has much leverage, obviously the White Sox want Manny but the only way the Dodgers would get much return is by paying some or all of Manny’s remaining 2010 salary. Is that something you think they would do.
I think they will ride out this weekend and see what happens, if the Padres and Dodgers win this weekend, leaving the Dodgers that much closer to a WC spot, I don’t see a deal happening.
ayg (burlington, nj)
Keith-thanks for the chat. Is Jerry Sands a Top 50 guy for you? Top 100?
Klaw (1:21 PM)
Definitely not top 50, probably not top 100. Even scouts I know who like him don’t see him as much more than a slightly above-average starter.
I’d be surprised if any Dodger prospects end up in Law’s 100.
by Julio Nievas on Aug 27, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Gordon was in his top 40
Withrow was number 83 in his 2010 Top 100.
Miller and Martin were his 3rd and 4th picks, doubtful they will rate that high.
Let me rephrase why I think Law feels this way, I believe I read where he thinks Sands will have problems (though not evident yet) hitting advanced pitching and if his only position is first base, he will have to hit a lot to be considered a top prospect.
by bhsportsguy on Aug 27, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
If he can play passable OF
in AFL, I think his ratings will go up.
Sands also has wacky platoon splits (does not hit well against LHP) that will need to be figured out.
by bhsportsguy on Aug 27, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
At Double A
vs Left .235/.354/.515
vs Right .294/.379/.569
by bhsportsguy on Aug 27, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah but his BABIP is very low and its 59 At bats...
look at previous years and hes killing LHP
by matthewmafa on Aug 27, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Could be
Look I know BA is poor stat but I just thought it was strange.
Try not to think anything negative automatically means I am against the guy.
by bhsportsguy on Aug 27, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Ha!
I know you’re the most realistic guy in this blog.
by Julio Nievas on Aug 27, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
but you can’t ask him to move because he’s Andre Ethier.
Pele breathes words of comfort, Seena just hides her eyes
Policeman taps his shades, Is that a chevy 69?
he moved to first….
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 27, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Screw you, law!
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
klaw was never on the sands bandwagon
and if there’s one thing we know about him, is that he is incredibly stubborn to change his opinion.
Just like BH said
Has to be proven on the field.
by Julio Nievas on Aug 27, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Keith Law
was at Camelback Ranch the same weekend Eric and I were there last March.
Jerry Sands probably never sniffed much of the MLB side of the complex.
by bhsportsguy on Aug 27, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I remember that
It was when he gave a report on Withrow.
by Julio Nievas on Aug 27, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes
when Withrow was going to be pitching in Chavez Ravine by this summer.
by bhsportsguy on Aug 27, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Eric and I saw him pitch
that weekend, for one inning, he was great.
by bhsportsguy on Aug 27, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Withrow was definitely the buzz of camp for those couple of days he pitched.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
At least he didn't say
“Scouts see him as Billy Ashley” or I would poke his eyes out. Through the internet.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
can he post it here?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 27, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
RE: Rob Dibble
“Rob asked for some time off,” Kasten said. "Perhaps he’s not feeling well. But I’m not a doctor, nor have I seen his records. So I shouldn’t say anything more about it."
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Mark Teahan
seems to make some sense not only for this season but next. He can play multiple positions and could platoon with Blake as he declines at RHP. Problem is he is not that great and doesn’t have much power.
Keith Law on Zach Lee
Chris (Los Angeles)
Did the Dodgers overpay for Zach Lee ? He recieved as much money as Manny Machado, the third overall pick. If signability wasn’t a concern where would Lee have gone in the draft, was he a top 5 talent?
Klaw
(1:26 PM)
Spread out over five years, though, and I was told it was backloaded. Pretty talented kid; I would have rated him a lot higher if he’d indicated he was committed to playing baseball prior to the draft, but when a kid says strongly he wants to play football, it concerns me. I guess it was a negotiating ploy.
I can see where he saw it as a negotiation ploy
But strongly disagree that it ever was.
by Julio Nievas on Aug 27, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Regardless
why does a kid wanting to play football affect how good of a baseball player he is? I love the Dodgers, but I also love pizza, so I must not love the Dodgers that much after all.
Pele breathes words of comfort, Seena just hides her eyes
Policeman taps his shades, Is that a chevy 69?
One that is relevant, I think.
Nathan (San Diego)
Enjoyed your back and forth with Gotlieb on the radio a couple of weeks ago about steroids in baseball. Do you think the reason why pitchers are having better year and hitters aren’t is b/c of the lack of greenies in baseball?
Klaw
(1:30 PM)
I’ve argued that the pitcher renaissance this year and even in the last few is a function of advances in player development … that is, we’ve stopped blowing out teenaged arms in A-ball by throwing them 200 innings a calendar year.
Outside of a few middle relievers
who are basically in a position for overuse anyway, who else are you talking about it.
by bhsportsguy on Aug 27, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Broxton, Kuo(which I disagree with, but others have argued), Pushing Billinglsey in the first half, which I personally believe helped caused his injury problems in the 2nd half.
I don’t think Broxton’s problems are due to overuse, but rather inconsistent use. Not all of that is on Torre (some is), because let’s face it, you can’t create save situations out of thin air.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Since Broxton
best numbers are when he pitches with no rest, I am not sure about that. Any charge that he overuses Kuo is completely without any merit.
The Bills thing in 2009 was I think an effort to try to get him ready to take on the role as a No. 1 starter, stupid perhaps but I think he was trying to show some faith in Bills. Also, the other Dodger starters at that time outside of Wolf were not going that deep.
by bhsportsguy on Aug 27, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t have a problem with Chad’s workload first half of last year. I blame the broken leg more than anything.
by Michael White on Aug 27, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
And you can certainly say that
Torre, Honeycutt and Ned have done everything to protect Kershaw’s usage in his first 3 years in the majors.
by bhsportsguy on Aug 27, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
The leash has come off this year.
And it should. I’m very happy with the way Kershaw is handled this year.
kershaw
even though his innings have not been as high as others this year and last year…. arent his pitches thrown amongst league leaders though??
which one matters more in a year… innings thrown or pitches thrown?
by matthewmafa on Aug 27, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Neither
it’s always different for each pitcher, and the better thing to track is pitches thrown under stress. Of course, the definitions are where the debates come in.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I appreciate all of the feedback on spaghetti
in the previous thread. I am only worried about delias man’s 7-10 day answer. Im sure he wants me to get sick, though.
Especially if the passed-ah (Gordon Ramsay pronunciation) still tastes good.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you keep the pasta and sauce in the same container in the fridge?
I have found simply adding some new sauce over old pasta (even with some old sauce mixed in) is good, too. Almost reinvigorates it.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
how long should you wait
before throwing out spaghetti in the fridge
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 27, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I kinda like to keep the sauce and pasta in the same container in the fridge, somehow I think it enhances the flavor.
I have done both. Most of the time I combine sauce and pasta just to save a container.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I have just finished eating combined pasta, sauce, and sausage from last night. We make Thursday Italian night in honor of Jersey Shore.
Haha
that is outstanding. Maybe I would be more into the show with such a plan.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
You should eat food from Texas, in honor of Clay K
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
For instance, you don’t have steak, you have steer.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
We are going to eat at Acapulco tonight, in memory of Juan Castro. We did not get around to that last week.
Pouring a margarita out on the sidewalk for him?
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Acapulco was a frequent college hangout because they were always aggressive with the weekly coupons.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Safest bet
freeze the sauce (after proper cool down period)
And make fresh pasta, it really doesn’t cost that much money.
by bhsportsguy on Aug 27, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
wow
we had the same lunch
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 27, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
THE BURNING!
Ama….zing grace
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 27, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
#Dodgers GM Colletti covering his bases. Could trade or dump Manny on #WhiteSox. Could trade Lilly. Could do nothing.
Thanks for that Ken.
Heh
Rosenthal was a big Win, Lose or Draw fan back in the day :0
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
To a certain extent
I think Dusty will forever get blamed for what happened to Kerry Wood and Mark Prior. But why don’t you hear anything about Bruce Bochy and Tim Lincecum, in particular back in 2008, Lincecum had some insane pitch counts in games where he had no business pitching.
if Lincecum doesn't start getting it together
you probably will.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 27, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah good point about Bochy, he too has done really worrisome things with his young pitchers
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Bochy would say Lincecum’s downfall is because of conditioning.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
this made me laugh
Bochy also lives in San Diego County over the winter, and said he plans to check in with Sandoval. Given Bochy’s background as an Army brat, and with Camp Pendleton just a few miles up the road, does he know any retired drill sergeants with time on their hands?
“Pablo and I will talk about that,” Bochy said, smiling. “We may have somebody in mind already. That all will be addressed when the season is over.”
The guy is gonna find a donut in his footlocker, then Panda will be beaten with soap
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 27, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
what is your major malfunction Panda boy?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 27, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Not sure what being an Army Brat and Camp Pendleton have in common
I was an Army Brat does that mean I knew Drill Sergeants at 10 years old? If I did they are all fucking dead.
also, how is T. Chris Young these days?
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe its because
In the playing days of these managers they barely had relievers. Maybe they think they’re all pussy primma donnas.
Didn’t Nolan Ryan file for a patent on that belief?
People don't think it be like this, but it do.
by MartinGreen on Aug 27, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
No patent, but Ryan just holds the idea and threatens anyone who takes it from him, with a beat down.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Jim Bowden is angry about people saying Joe Torre (and others) to the Cubs next year:
Cubs fans…to make it clear….Torre, Girardi and Baker are NOT going to be the Cubs next MGR….NOT…Period…stop talking about it
Mike Rizzo
Upset that his pets’ heads are falling off…
In case anyone was wondering about potential Manny return from CWS
Here are the win leaders for the Double A Birmingham Barons:
Johnnie Lowe (age 25): 6-4, 3.94 ERA, 48 BB / 73 K in 114.1 IP / 23 starts
Matt Long (age 26): 6-8, 5.16 ERA, 22 BB / 73 K in 103 IP / 19 starts
They also have Jhonny Nuñez, now 24, as Reg pointed out, the guy we traded for Magic Marlon in Aught Six.
Because that’s the level of return I expect for Manny, along with salary relief.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Ahhh
I expect similar level I suppose, but think (hope) we’ll go after a position player.
Arizona looking to make BOB (screw you, Chase) less hitter friendly
per Nick Piecoro of the AZ Republic:
Among the ideas: Changing the dimensions, raising fences and even borrowing a page from Colorado’s Coors Field by storing baseballs in a climate-controlled humidor.
“We do know that it’s an issue,” Hall said. “The offense is unreal at Chase Field. We have a launching pad now. We have a team that’s hopefully going to be built around young pitching. We should look at ways to reduce offense, especially from an opponents’ standpoint.”
He isn't bad
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
I just saw him give up 9 runs in person at Petco wednesday night
He’s not good.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
SSS much?
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
Nah, one game that I see in person says it all
But seriously, his career numbers make him crappy, not that one game.
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=4366&position=P
4.34 ERA 4.70 FIP 4.72 xFIP career.
Sooooo not good in any way, shape, or form.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Right
I’m not saying he is good, I’m just saying he really isn’t the worst pitcher in the world. I still think the DBacks should have gotten more for Haren but w/e.
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
They should have got this, right-handed Corbin
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
There
have been 2 “Tyrones” in MLB though none used Tyrone as his name, Ty Cline and Gene Harris.
Tyrone is the late Dodger All-Star Mike Sharperson’s middle name.
Or this one
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Easier to develop in a more pitcher-friendly park.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
GM Ned Colletti on moving trading Manny Ramirez: "Not inclined to move anyone so long as we have a chance.’’
down to the wire
it goes
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 27, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
good. No reason to rush this decision. Here’s my idea:
June 15: Rule IV draft (amateur draft is Rule IV right?)
August 1: Deadline to sign draft picks
August 15: Hard trade deadline. No waivers after this date and players added after this date via free agency are ineligible for the postseason.
Pele breathes words of comfort, Seena just hides her eyes
Policeman taps his shades, Is that a chevy 69?
That’s a stupid comment to make in public. If he moves him, he is basically saying to the team and to all of the fans that he is officially throwing in the towel with a month left in the season. Dumbass.
by KellyStephen on Aug 27, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
but on the other hand
if he says he is inclined to move him, WS have more leverage.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 27, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Agree, but i don’t think you can spin that backwards in a favourable way to the fans if he does move him unless he gets someone who is going right to the major league roster, which is not going to happen.
by KellyStephen on Aug 27, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
true
not all fans are like TBLA guys, where if he got a good prospect it’s like “Well, Williams made him an offer he couldn’t refuse”.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 27, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
trying
to avoid a noogie
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 27, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I would still move Manny in a heartbeat of course, but I agree that the comment by Colletti essentially equates Manny with “no chance” when it didn’t have to be that way, at least from a public perception stand point.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m with you…jeezus is that “Kumbuyah” I hear???
by KellyStephen on Aug 27, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Manny cutoff line?
Realistically Colletti has four (maybe five) games to work with to figure out if we are still close enough to the WC to keep Ramirez.
Let’s assume he has four games to play with.
I’d assume we’d have to go atleast 3-1 for him to keep Manny
A 2-2 record is also a possibility has Colletti seems to have a tough time selling.
If we have five games to play with.
3-2 record would likely keep Colletti from selling, when he probably still should.
If we win four or more of the five, then I’d think Colletti would keep Manny for sure.
Anything less than 3 wins and I think Manny is gone.
But if they go 2-2 they’re only going to be 6 games from a playoff spot with 5 weeks to go. You cannot tell your fans that you are giving up in that situation, IMO.
by KellyStephen on Aug 27, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Now there you go! That’s the rallying cry this year anyway, isn’t it?
by KellyStephen on Aug 27, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
I feel like fans are so fickle that whatever you do past whatever Frank and Jamie have contributed already is going to make a difference.
At this point, do whatever is best for the organization, that will (should) help them succeed in the future, and that will make the fans happier than 5 weeks of Manny.
Also, I think we are underselling the casual fan into thinking they would be butthurt over us selling when we’re in 4th place heading into September because dammit, we’re the Los Angeles Dodgers!
Pele breathes words of comfort, Seena just hides her eyes
Policeman taps his shades, Is that a chevy 69?
Also
my first sentence makes no sense.
Frank and Jamie already shit the bed. whatever you do now isn’t going to make fans any MORE jaded than they already are.
Pele breathes words of comfort, Seena just hides her eyes
Policeman taps his shades, Is that a chevy 69?
Trial starts Monday
At worst, a Manny deal would be linked to the McCourt’s ongoing saga like a tail on a kite. Personally, I think sweeping the Brewers means no deal, but it’s probably the best day of all for Ned to get away with it if he still wants to.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Aug 27, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Butch & Sundance went for it at the end of their movie.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I swear you guys who want him to go are acting like this 3m makes any difference. In the grand scheme of things, it does not.
by delias man on Aug 27, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think it does matter
if the $3.6 million doesn’t matter, then the Dodgers are more fucked than we ever thought, and nothing ever matters anyway.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
So the 3.6m difference in next years payroll is what, 0.4 wins? Fuck it. Keep him here. Besides, you want to see Druw, JP, and 99 making a playoff run together? I would rather get fucked in the ass by a skyscraper needle.
by delias man on Aug 27, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
The White Sox aren’t winning anyway, and I wouldn’t care if they won the World Series.
The $3.6 million matters. Everything matters.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
and to be accurate, it would actually be $900k next year, $1.8m in 2012, and $900k in 2013. But it matters.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
If its the difference between resigning a pitcher
its more then 0.4 wins.
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
It all adds up
especially when running against a budget and operating in the margins.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree. If season is lost, $3.8MM > $0.
by Michael White on Aug 27, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
But why do you care about a supposed budget 2 years from now when you do not even know who the owner will be or what that budget will be anyways?
the new owner in 2013 will still have to pay Manny Ramirez. The question is how much.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
The logic
Keeping Manny: Dodgers still don’t make playoffs, Dodgers pay $3.6 million more (over time)
Dealing Manny: Dodgers still don’t make playoffs, Dodgers don’t pay $3.6 million more (over time)
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Even if they get 2 of 3 this weekend, it won’t mean shit unless Philly AND the Giants collapse.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
oh yeah, and to a lesser extent, the Cards
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
well
the Phillies are playing the mighty mighty Padres.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 27, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
On this day
in 2007, the Rockies and Dodgers were tied 3.5 games behind the Padres for the Wild Card, the Phillies were 3 games back and the Braves were 4 games back. After the games were played on August 31, the Rockies were 5 games back of both the Padres and D-Backs, with the Phillies and Dodgers ahead of them and the Braves a half game behind.
you forgot
let’s go back to this one….(and the wink)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 27, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Perhaps we should also list the 20 other teams for every one that bucks the odds.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
No problem
2007 was such a freaky year, you had the Rockies but more importantly the Mets, who had a 7 game lead with 17 games to play and had a the second highest to make the playoffs odds (99.8%) ever to not to make it (1995 Angels)
There is a little added grey area since we don’t know between now and Tuesday if the Dodgers are going to make the playoffs or not. Not much grey area, but a little added. :)
You know McCourt/Colletti
They could sign Pitcher X for $3.6m more than Pitcher Y, and just defer the extra $3.6m to match the Manny payments/savings.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
If deferring all this money is so bad, wouldn’t reducing it (by trading Manny) be a good thing?
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
how can you deprive all of these kids on this blog a chance for the playoffs and World Series glory?
I could buy them all a lottery ticket and they’d have a better chance at joy :)
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Because the Dodgers will still have to pay over 17 million to two players no longer on the team in 2011.
We could put steroids
in Manny’s pre game food prep, have him tested, suspended and void the contract. That is what I’d do.
Depending on how much you are valuing a win at. Let’s just take some estimates and use Eric’s numbers below for salary saved.
2011: $4.0M per win
2012: $4.4M per win
2013: $4.8M per win
Total wins gained= (.9/4.0) + (1.8/4.4) + (.9/4.8)
Total wins gained = 0.82 (estimated)
so.....
you’re saying they didn’t make it out alive to become world famous vaudeville stars?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 27, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Not exactly. I’m saying I don’t give a shit if it pisses fans off. Exactly as G. Scott says, make the best decision for the Dodgers.
by Michael White on Aug 27, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
THAT'S RIGHT
Pele breathes words of comfort, Seena just hides her eyes
Policeman taps his shades, Is that a chevy 69?
I have a hard time gauging "mainstream" fan's opinions.
Would most even care if Manny was moved? The dummies at my office would all say “good riddance” because, after all he “hasn’t contributed” since signing the extension.
They could be 7 games out if the Giants go 4-0 and could possibly be 3 games out if both the Giants and Phillies go 0-4. So I gues it depends on how many games out we are. If we are still five games out then it is probably a coin flip. Three or four out and for sure Manny stays. Six or seven out and he is gone.
Agreed
I think if they gain a game over the next 4 on SF/PHI, then they keep Manny.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I wonder what MLB network will be discussing more at length about
Manny, or Strasburg’s injury
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 27, 2010 1:35 PM PDT reply actions
Scott “Burning Smell of Sulfur” Boras has sure been quiet the past two days.
by KellyStephen on Aug 27, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
kudos
on the nickname
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by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 27, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Stolen from a line about Barry Bonds several years ago. A forgotton (by me) writer made a comment one time about catchers catching “the distincitive smell of sulfur” at home plate whenever Bonds came up. Pretty funny at the time.
by KellyStephen on Aug 27, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 27, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Depends
is Peter Gammons on the broadcast?
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good question
they had Don Wakamatsu the other day. no pink suit though.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 27, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, to blame Manny for Strasburg’s arm troubles.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Aug 27, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 27, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
only if Strasburg
was a Dodger.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 27, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Local press meme
In Gammon’s world, Manny is to blame for everything from the economy to Lindsay Lohan’s drug problems.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Aug 27, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
ask the kids
who got shafted
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by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 27, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Strasburg
They’ll argue over whether he should have been on the all star team, since it may now have been his only chance.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
this
will probably happen. I can hear Harold Reynolds say it.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 27, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Attn: Fantasy fooball fans.
MJD has a meniscus problem and will miss the rest of the preseason. Draft accordingly.
who's that?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 27, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
ah ok
my bro will be in a fantasy draft soon, i shall let him know.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 27, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Have him take a QB. 3 years ago I had the 7th overall pick, I took Rudi Johnson instead of Manning…what a disaster season for me.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Eli or Peyton?
Can I please get in that league if it was Peyton?
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Don't know much about fantasy football
but isn’t picking a QB in the first round considered to be not the right play.
There are only a couple worth the pick
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Picking an elite QB would work. Brees is a fantasy god.
Generally you want to load up on running backs.
by Michael White on Aug 27, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Peytun is always a safepick
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Peyton Manning
the Derek Jeter of Football.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 27, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Rumor has it he is the "Tiger Woods" of the NFL
if you know what I mean ;)
by Greg Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
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by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 27, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
RB is pretty deep this year
picking a QB in the 1st round shouldnt be a problem
by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 27, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
My advice: Do NOT take a QB in the first 3 rounds. Target Schaub in Round 4. If he’s gone wait til 6 or 7 and get Joe Flacco.
Love this advice.
Did it last year and didn’t get my first QB till the 11th (it was Schaub.)
by Michael White on Aug 27, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Better advice would be to take the QB and top receiver
of the team that will go 16-0. I did that in 2007 with Brady and Moss on 2 teams, and one of those teams I won the points league by 100 points (it was a slaughter-fest).
So all you need to do is find that duo of a perfect team :P
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Risky
You could get stuck with Vince Young
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Did he injure it after flexing for the 10000000000 time after a run?
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Do not besmirch Maurice Jones-Drew
He had one of the greatest individual performances I ever personally witnessed when he led UCLA over Cal in 2005 at the Rose Bowl.
Did he flex 100000 times in that game too?
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the kind
who will quickly remedy this I assume. knowwhatimean?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 27, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
A good one, as long as you immediately told him to say his name three times in succession.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
yes
to the two of ya’s
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by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 27, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
For some odd reason, I do too. I’m guessing i’m seeing that w/the kids and not the wife.
by KellyStephen on Aug 27, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
it's rated R
how old are your kids?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 27, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
23-21-20 year old girls, 17 year old boy
by KellyStephen on Aug 27, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
.....
carry on
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by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 27, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Kelly has a good looking family
so I expect they had a good looking pool guy working in his area.
by meercatjohn on Aug 27, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah, that's definately me and the boy type of movie
I’ll have to go to a chick flick soon thereafter
by Greg Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
The previews
reminded me of “Desperado” which was the first time I ever saw Danny Trejo, and he was born to play that role. Desperado is a guilty pleasure, wanton silly ridic violence with Salma Hayek looking the best she has ever looked.
The fact that Danny Trejo is actually starring in Machete means I will see it.
Great movie
I really liked it.
Plus you get to see naked Salma Hayek, and that’s never a bad thing.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
How have I not known about this?
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Google is your friend
Safe Search: Off
Is also your friend :P
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
by Ivdown on Aug 27, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
No I know how to Google search naked celebrities.
I didn’t know Salma Hayek was an option.
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waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat
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Same director, Robert Rodriguez as well. Great movie. Ever see El Mariachi?
Danny Trejo is in some really good movies.
by KellyStephen on Aug 27, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Predators was better than I expected
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Add Once Upon a Time in Mexico. Also had Danny Trejo and directed by Rodriguez, and starred Johnny Depp. Depp says one of my all time favorite lines: “Well, are you a Mexi-can or a Mexi-can’t?”
by KellyStephen on Aug 27, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep. My damn kids got sick of me repeating that line for the next few months. Thanks for reminding me; i’ll bring it back this weekend to torment the heck out of them.
by KellyStephen on Aug 27, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m hit and miss on Robert Rodriguez. Crazy respect for how he basically sold his blood to fund El Mariachi though.
"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
He impresses me
He can make movies like Desperado, and then go make Spy Kids? Thats versatility.
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more than that
he sold his body for medical testing.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 27, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
He pops up all over the place
Heat, Anchorman. Finally he gets his big starring role
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Yes
but not until after i’d seen Desperado. Liked the whole trilogy. Plus, I think he was part of Dusk Until Dawn which is another guilty pleasure. I can never not watch that movie if it is on.
I'm with you on From Dusk Till Dawn, love watching that movie
Desperado is part of a trilogy? I know about Once Upon a Time in Mexico, but what’s the third?
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Who is the star of that movie?
Or was it just no namers?
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
yes
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 27, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
That trailer and others on Grindhouse
oh man, they were great. the Thanksgiving one was just all kinds of wrong.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 27, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Eli Roth is making that into a feature film
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I heard a lot of those were
the “Don’t” one as well.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 27, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
To Sell or Not to Sell
Guys remember if the Dodgers go 2-2 through Monday, but SF lays an egg with AZ, that could change things as well. In my mind the key in deciding if you hold onto Manny is if you lose 2-3 games off the lead, and then the real question, what does McCourt do with the money anyway.
Since when is someone
who might be an average major league baseball player not a top 100 prospect? Maybe Law should look at his past 100 prospect lists and see how many of them actually became average major league players. And I don’t mean replacement level, I mean average. Are any current Dodgers above average? Andre? that is about it on my list. So if Jerry Sands can became an average major league ballplayer like a David DeJesus, I’d be happy with that.
Yeah, but top prospects aren't usually projected to be average.
That’s their floor, not the ceiling. To find out that Kemp is closer to Marquis Grissom than to Dave Winfield hurts.
Its One Season
No one here knows if Kemp will be closer to Grissom than Winfield at this point.
I'd say he's far away from Winfield
and much closer to Grissom, but Grissom was not a player to sneeze at.
Dave
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1014127&position=OF
Matt
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=5631&position=OF
Could be I was over stating the greatness of Dave Winfield.
No you weren't
Dave was great, but his greatness was mostly age 26 – 36.
Winfield and Kemp are on almost the same timeline in terms of age and big league service time, so its an interesting comparison. Kemp is 25, lets see another season out of him before getting all doom and gloom. I’m a realist and know that its not likely he will be a hall of famer, or even a Dodger for that matter, but there is no reason to be so pessimistic solely because of this season.
There are very few players like Pujols who never have a down year in the early stages of their careers.
I don't think not expecting Matt Kemp to become
Dave Winfield is doom and gloom. I’d take the peak years of Grissom since Matt will be playing for someone else in two years anyway. What do I care if he does blossom into a Winfield, it wont’ be with us.
down season?
Kemp’s 2010 season is producing a lot like his 2008 season, except more than slugging and less OBP.
Winfield didn’t top .800 in OPS until he was 25 in his 4th Full big league season. Kemp could be Grissom or whatever, or he could just as easily bust out next year as Winfield did when he was 26.
You can't use OPS in that context.
He was playing in San Diego and while it was no Petco it still was not a hitters park. His OPS+ and wRC and wOBA were above average for his time.
Anyway, my point is that if Sands is currrently being projected as an average right field
Then he has a good shot as being a below average right fielder as well.
Jeff Francouer would not be fun to watch.
Scouts thought Jason Bay was an average outfielder
I’m not going to get to caught up in their ceiling projections by scouts, and focus more on the production on the field until they prove they have flaws that will be exploited.
I'm with Delias on Spaghetti
but I eat it so quickly it has never lasted seven days in my frig. I’ve gone over the “recommended” food cycle time many times in my life. A little food poisoning rarely kills, and is a natural palette cleanser. The best part of food poisoning is finding God again.
while you're on the toilet screaming
“PLEASE LORD, MAKE IT STOP!!!!”
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 27, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
by the way, on the way to lunch, the Sklar Brothers were filling in for Jim Rome. it was the best sports talk radio show i’ve ever heard
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I love when they fill in for Rome, more than listening to Rome
You should then also check out their new podcast, Sklarboro Country, which is on itunes. It’s like their Rome shows only more free flowing.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Jim Rome is the one person
to turn Memorial Day to Memorial week. I understand he is patriotic but even veterans don’t take that much time to honor the dead.
words can't describe
how much I hate Jay Mohr
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
Are we having fun today?
Looks like we are back in it, 5 games out of the wild card.
Question, how much of the recent winning streak was due to Manny?
None I say and the team can make a run or fail without Manny.
If we are on a budget, that $3.5 mil or whatever is huge…pays for all of our draft (deferred$ aside)….arb picks don’t come into play so lose Manny.
One other thing, its not up to Ned and whether he wants to keep Manny or not for a run. Manny can void a move. If Manny says I will waive the clause and go to Chi, then Ned can do what he does. But if Ned pushes it, Manny can change his mind. Or ask for an extension.
Point is, Manny has the control today, not Ned
he's already said he would
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 27, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
You Football Roto Guys
might want to create a fanpost to discuss how you’d approach a draft instead of letting your brilliance get buried in a thread no one will remember in about 90 minutes.
Its probably better to let our "brilliance" get buried
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Like “Yeah, stay away from any QBs first round, take Jones-Drew instead of Manning”
Watch Manning win another MVP and Jones-Drew average 3.5 yards a carry, lol. That’s just a fake example, not busting on anyone, lol.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Plus a Kuo fanpost!
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
OT (again)
looking to buy a new laptop. Budget is a grand, I’m mostly going to use it to play games and watch movies. Any suggestions?
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How big, bigger then 14 inches, or lower?
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anagram
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by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 27, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
depends on the day
wait, what are we talking about?
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Dell studio and XPS's
are actually surprisingly solid.
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I got a XPS 1310, and Dell pretty much admitted it was shoddly made.
My brother and sister has Studios, and they love it.
my wife has the old xps m140
for its time it was quite good.
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17 inches?
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
How is that even portable
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
I meant if you are sitting next to someone on a plane or a classroom
I guess if you don’t have to worry about that its not an issue.
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
Anandtech has you covered
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3822/laptop-buyers-guide-14inch-and-smaller
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3795/mobile-buyers-guide-notebooks-dtrs
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Well
I bought a friend a laptop a few months ago because he was jobless and needed one. Now he has his engineering job and is going to pay me back. I’m going to then buy myself a laptop with the money. I don’t really want to spend 1500 bucks on a laptop i’m only going to use as a portable Diablo 2/3 platform.
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You can do plenty fine for a grand nowdays
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These days you don't need to spend 1500 bucks
I’m actually very bitter about that. Back when I started college to get a half decent gaming laptop would be 1500 bucks, it would weight 8 pounds and it would be so hot you could get 3rd degree burns from it(I’m not really joking). Did I mention loud? Now you can do better for 800 bucks
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I'm of the belief that you get a laptop for only about 3-4 years anyway.
By then, the new tech blows anything else out of the water, and you want to upgrade.
Yeah
I’ve always heard that technology is out of date the second it hits the shelves.
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It isn't
not anymore at least. If you spend smart. Laptops are tough though because of their form factor, so they do tend to burn out quicker then desktops.
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OT
it’s “Bring your Dog to work day” here. This lady brought a Bull Mastiff that weighs more than 200 pounds. It is literally “The Beast” from The Sandlot.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 27, 2010 2:49 PM PDT reply actions
Whats the dogs name?
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Phil.
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it's not Hercules
it’s Harley
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by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 27, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm sorry
but of all the bad ideas out there, this one has to be the most likely to result in poo on your loafers
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 27, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
no poo
dogs are well trained.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 27, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Wasn't Eric at Dog night at Dodger Stadium
I wanted to know how that worked it. Dogs pissing and shitting on concrete did not seem like a great idea.
As opposed to drunk men pissing and shitting on concrete.
by Tripon on Aug 27, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
My first day on the job at the Times
I saw a guy take a dump in an alley.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
You should really tell Plashke to take it easy
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Don't care how much you train a dog
he’s still gonna bark at the mailman
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 27, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
My ex wife
trains German Shepherds, she’d disagree, but then they are German’s so you can’t count them.
not a dog person Josie?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 27, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Nah, I got a dog meself
big mutt named Snoopy. Wouldn’t take him to work though, dog hair everywhere, barking at strangers, that’s no good
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 27, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Which is why
I would never bring my dog to work. Last time I brought my male lab to a friend’s apartment, he marked her curtains three times in 20 minutes.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
I was adopting another dog
so she was cool with it. Said it happens all the time.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
not friends
but she’s a rescuer, so she has people with dogs coming in constantly.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
Have to agree, I'd no more bring a dog to work then I'd bring my kid unless I owned the company
and they could watch me telling everybody what to do. Wouldn’t want them seeing everyone else telling me what to do, give em bad ideas.
Rockies Lineup
Young Jr. 2B
Fowler CF
Gonzalez LF
Tulowitzki SS
Mora 3B
Helton 1B
Spilborghs RF
Olivo C
Jimenez P
Kershaw vs. Ubaldo
Part deux.
First time they squared off this year was epic. I hope the sequel is equally good. I’m having goosebumps and the anticipation is killing me. Great baseball game tonight.
We spend countless posts conjecturing
on who we can get for Manny, and then we finally have a thread related specifically to Manny being claimed by waivers and a Morel is nowhere to be found
We suffer from
Premature speculation
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because that is never going to happen :)
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
From all the teams in the wild card chase, us included
Cardinals have the favorable schedule.
They can snack on MIL, HOU, WAS, and PIT. They have 6 games against PIT…
Well at least we get 4 against HOU
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They have owned the Phillies since 2004
true story
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The team that just swept the Phillies
someone somewhere will bemoan the fact we have to play the Astros.
Oh good I get to watch Dewitt dash our playoff hopes?
Someone pass the bleach
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Not guaranteed to happen again but the cards just lost a series to Pittsburgh on the road earlier this week.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Aug 27, 2010 3:27 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Dodgers lineup
Podsednik LF
Theriot 2B
Ethier RF
Kemp CF
Loney 1B
Blake 3B
Carroll SS
Barajas C
Kershaw P
That tells me they are close enough to a trade
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
If they do make the deal then Ned is throwing in the towel
because this team is not going to win with Podboy in LF, not with this anemic offense. Not unless Loney goes Looney and Andre/Kemp remember they were supposed to be two parts of the best outfield in Dodger history.
Time for Loney to build up seasonal stats by tearing it up in Coors.
Loney Kemp and/or Andre going off
seems about as likely to me as Manny staying healthy AND hitting good enough to power us to the playoffs. Of course Manny could stay and then we could try to have all those things happen.
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Ridic
if you save him from hurting his trade value, you also hurt yourself from beating a key team in front you in the wild card. I’d rather win the game and take a chance he does not get hurt.
Could be a condition of a potential deal
Since Manny was claimed, the Dodgers could just let him walk and have the White Sox pay (if Manny waives his no trade) anyway. More likely is that the two sides have been working on a deal, and this is just a precaution of it.
If anything, I am more inclined to believe a trade will happen now.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Lets find out what the deal is before we celebrate
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;????????????????
why is everyone giving up and hoping manny gets shipped????
we are only 5 games out…
I think the front office will attempt to get something good. That way they can pass it off to the media as a worthwhile deal.
i reallly really doubt we get ANYTHING for manny...
the salary relief will be enough for a team “out of contention”
but also from the dodgers side
the white sox will be desprate to get manny because they are close to gettin into the playoffs… so if the dodgers play smart, they might be able to pry a good prospect yah?
They will get one or two lower level prospects IMO
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Because (a) the team isn’t very good; (b) we are 5 games back; © we are behind 4 teams; (d) we have less than a 5% chance to make the playoffs.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
C’mon fellas! When the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor, did we give up? No, we fought! C’mon…who’s with me????
by KellyStephen on Aug 27, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
we need to finish the year 24-8 to end with 90 wins/...
will 90 be enough to get the WC
Think of it like this. Every win is great. It’s a small step toward the goal. But, every loss right now is a HUGE step backwards.
The Dodgers only shot at this is to win a bunch of games. They can’t lose. And if they lose a game they have to follow that with another long winning streak.
They’re out of time. Most don’t believe this team has a long winning streak in it because they haven’t shown to be very good this season.
34 games left. 24-10 gets them to 90-72. The Giants only need to go 19-15 to get there.
That’s not even considering the Phillies, Cards or Rockies.
The Cal League postseason awards and all-star team was announced, and there were no 66ers to be found.
What about Furcal? Didn’t he qualify given his multiple rehab assignments?
Oh, yeah…he hasn’t had the next one yet.
by KellyStephen on Aug 27, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Tim kirkjian
“Dont expect anything to happen involving manny for the next 24 hours”
I would go even farther and say don’t expect anything until Tuesday, unless the Dodgers lose the next few or something.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 27, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
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