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Rockies Snap Dodgers Four-Game Winning Streak

Each of the last six Dodgers-Rockies series have played out the same way, with the two clubs splitting the first two games, so it was only natural that after the Dodgers took Friday's opener the Rockies would strike back tonight. Colorado responded, taking the second game of the series, 5-3. The Dodgers hope the trend continues, because in each of those six previous series with Colorado, the Dodgers won the tiebreaking finale each time.

Chad Billingsley, making his first start in a week after resting a tight right calf, didn't necessarily have a bad start, in that he reached the bare minimum qualifications for a quality start: three earned runs allowed in six innings. But he didn't have a good start either. Billingsley walked five Rockies with nary a strikeout. Only five Los Angeles Dodger starters have ever walked more batters in a game in which they didn't strike anyone out.

Most Walks By LA Dodger With Zero Strikeouts
Name Date Opp IP BB Result
Rick Sutcliffe 6/19/1979 ChC 6.0 8 L 7-4
Fernando Valenzuela  
8/23/1990 NYM 7.0 7 W 4-2
Fernando Valenzuela 5/29/1990 @Pit 4.1 6 L 9-5
Gerry Hannahs 9/27/1979 @SF 5.0 6 L 5-3
Alan Foster 5/2/1970 Mon 4.2 6 W 7-3
Chad Billingsley* tonight @Col 6.0 5 L 5-1
*and 9 others; courtesy of Baseball-Reference.com

Billingsley also gave up a home run to Todd Helton, snapping Billingsley's streak of 92 straight innings without a home run, dating back to Memorial Day, which was the longest active streak in the majors coming into tonight. Helton came into the series hitting .260/.350/.351, including 1-for-29 against the Dodgers, but so far this weekend has two home runs in two days.

Jhoulys Chacin pitched well in his seven innings, allowing one run on four hits while walking four and striking out seven. His final out recorded was a strikeout of Manny Ramirez, who was pinch hitting for Billingsley. Ramirez wasn't in the starting lineup tonight, for the third straight game.

Notes

  • Tonight was the second start of the season for Billingsley in which he failed to strikeout a batter, joining his July 16 start in St. Louis
  • Rod Barajas homered in the ninth and had another single, and is hitting .462/.563/1.077, with two doubles and two home runs, in his four games as a Dodger
  • George Sherrill recorded the one and only strikeout by Dodger pitching tonight. This was the 58th time since moving to Los Angeles that the Dodgers allowed more home runs (two) than they had strikeouts (one).
  • Carlos Gonzalez tripled and homered for the Rockies.
  • Ronald Belisario was ejected in the seventh inning for hitting Troy Tulowitzki, one batter after Gonzalez hit a two-run home run. It was the second hit batter of the inning for Belisario, who hadn't hit a batter since last August 14, a span of 245 batters.
  • Dodgers assistant general manager Logan White is expected to be a candidate for the Arizona GM job, writes Ken Gurnick of MLB.com, but there's not much news there as the Dodgers have yet to be contacted for permission to interview White.

Tomorrow's finale is an homage to the 1994 Winter Olympics, with a Lilly/Hammel affair (hat tip to David Young for that one).

WP - Jhoulys Chacin (7-9):  7 IP, 4 hits, 1 run, 4 walks, 7 strikeouts

LP - Chad Billingsley (10-8):  6 IP, 5 hits, 3 runs, 5 walks, 0 strikeouts

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Bills has no heart

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Aug 28, 2010 8:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Tonight's RBI Producers

Blake & Barajas

Gotta love Carroll too

Hooray for the old guys!

by 68elcamino427 on Aug 28, 2010 8:05 PM PDT reply actions  

so much for the Rod Barajas winning streak

I thought it was going to propel us to glory like the Gasol trade did for the Lakers, but now all my dreams are dashed. Oh well, still time to make it to 3 straight World Series I suppose…

That which is in constant motion contains all possible forms.

by Pure Azure on Aug 28, 2010 8:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Josh Bell hit HR #3 tonight

and Cesar Izturis is 3 for 3 (still with an OPS under .600) as Baltimore leads the Angels and Scott Kazmir 4-0 in the 7th.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 28, 2010 8:06 PM PDT reply actions  

eh, look at this way

Not playing Manny again was dumb, but it’s reasonable to assume that if he had played today, he wouldn’t have been able to play tomorrow. And with Podsednik’s unimpressive performance today, we needn’t worry about Joe letting his superstitions preventing one of the greatest right handed hitters ever from “resting” on the bench four days in a row. And if we do, I’d hope he gets his gold watch before the team heads back home.

And if the Dodger announcers are superstitious, maybe they shouldn’t give any more pro-Dodger/anti-Rocky info during a Todd Helton at bat. Yesterday, Vin talked about this Todd Helton being an impostor, as he was 1 for 29 against Dodger pitching with 13 strikeouts. Before he could finish his point, Helton drove a ball into the stands. Today, Charlie Steiner mentioned that Billingsley hadn’t allowed a homer in however many innings it had been. Before he could finish his point, Helton drove a ball into the stands. Best just say nothing tomorrow when the old guy is at the plate.

by sarcastro9 on Aug 28, 2010 8:12 PM PDT reply actions  

…“he” getting his gold watch being Joe Torre, though I suppose it could apply to Manny, too.

by sarcastro9 on Aug 28, 2010 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Last night, before Vin was finished with his “impostor” sentence, the pitch was sailing over the wall. It was uncanny!

by Eric Stephen on Aug 28, 2010 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

even more uncanny that it happened two days in a row!

Though the point today was about Billingsley’s home run streak, not Helton. Take a listen. (click on "28 August Todd Helton solo HR 6th inning 3-1 COL .mp3 ")

by sarcastro9 on Aug 28, 2010 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

(the Helton HR from yesterday is there, too- this is definitely worth a fan shot.)

by sarcastro9 on Aug 28, 2010 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Logan White better not leave...

but considering the ownership turmoil, I wouldn’t be surprised if some team lured him away. That would be a huge blow, DON’T wanna think about it!

That which is in constant motion contains all possible forms.

by Pure Azure on Aug 28, 2010 8:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Ronald Belisario

Should not be treated as one of the Dodgers best relievers like he has been.

by Tripon on Aug 28, 2010 8:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Has he been though? His last 6 outings:

down 2
down 3
up 2 (1.2 IP in Milwaukee)
up 1 (1 out)
up 1 (1 out)
down 2

So basically one time in the last 13 days Belisario has been brought in for a standard outing that a top reliever would make.

I notice you didn’t complain about him after any of his previous five straight unscored upon outings.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 28, 2010 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because somehow I always advoided watching his relief apperences.

Since he’s came back, coming into tonight’s game he had a .370/.414/.556/.969 OPS against.

by Tripon on Aug 28, 2010 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Obligatory SSS post

"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "

by K3vo on Aug 28, 2010 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well yeah. But that’s how his season went. He literally took two months off to handle personal business.

by Tripon on Aug 28, 2010 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

and he has been used accordingly

by Eric Stephen on Aug 28, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Except tonight.

This was Torre trying to turn Belisario back into his prized reliever again, and failing.

by Tripon on Aug 28, 2010 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

They were down 2 when he was brought in. That is not the role of “one of the Dodgers best relievers.” He is clearly behind Kuo, Broxton, Dotel, and Jansen at this point.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 28, 2010 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

2 down in the 7th inning in a 3-1 winnable game.

Come on, even when the Dodgers crappy offense, that’s not a mop up spot.

by Tripon on Aug 28, 2010 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

No Broxton and no Kuo tonight, so you have Dotel and Jansen as your final two guys with a lead or tie game.

C’mon man, there are plenty of things to whine about. At least know the situation and use actual facts.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 28, 2010 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because Joe Torre hasn't stretched anyone out for two innings right?

Torre treats Belisario better than he’s capable of, that’s all I’m saying.

by Tripon on Aug 28, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ronald Belisario pitching for Los Angeles LAD COL
R Belisario relieved C Billingsley. 1 3
R Spilborghs hit for J Chacin. 1 3
R Spilborghs hit by pitch. 1 3
E Young Jr. bunted into fielder’s choice to first, R Spilborghs out at second. 1 3
D Fowler fouled out to left. 1 3
C Gonzalez homered to right center (417 feet), E Young Jr. scored. 1 5
T Tulowitzki hit by pitch. 1 5
G Sherrill relieved R Belisario. 1 5
T Helton struck out swinging. 1 5
2 Runs, 1 Hits, 0 Errors

That’s certainly not a ROOGY role, how he’s been used the for the Brewers series.

by Tripon on Aug 28, 2010 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pay attention to the fucking game

Again, Broxton and Kuo were not going to be used tonight, so you have Dotel and Jansen as the guys to pitch the final two or so innings with a lead or tie game.

Somebody has to get outs in the 7th. Sherrill has been a LOOGY for the most part, so he’s out, so it’s down to Belisario or Weaver for the 7th.

Are you really going to say that because Torre went to Belisario over Weaver that Belisario is getting top reliever treatment?

That’s idiotic, even for you.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 28, 2010 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

This comment was overly harsh

My bad, Tripon.

I just think you are complaining about a problem that doesn’t even exist, and I got annoyed.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 28, 2010 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

We seen Torre throw guys for one out after one out in the past series. Part of that was Belisario. When he leaves Belisario in after hitting a guy and then allowing a homer, so he can hit another guy. We seen Torre use pitchers despite pitching on multiple days, and multiple innings. Nobody is truly out for Torre at this point. He just threw Jansen for two innings in his previous outing on Thursday. You’re telling me he couldn’t do that again?

Torre used Belisario because he thought he could get an inning out of him and he’s better than Jansen for that inning.

by Tripon on Aug 28, 2010 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t say its Belisario over Weaver, its Belisario over Jansen. And a lot of this is because I’m still think he’s not right and didn’t get the rehab time he really needed which I know you don’t agree with.

by Tripon on Aug 28, 2010 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Again, Jansen was for the 8th, with a lead or tie game

Kuo has been used back-to-back all of twice this season, and both times the second outing was for one batter only.

Broxton has thrown 30+ pitches four previous times this year, and each time he was given at least one day of rest. In fact, he was given only one day off just once.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 28, 2010 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m using actual facts

by Eric Stephen on Aug 28, 2010 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

You just said Jansen hasn't been used for 5 days inbetween relief apperences

We seen Torre say one thing about his bullpen usage and then do another thing in game.

I know you know Torre better than I do, but you can’t just assume Jansen was the 8th inning guy because he’s done whackier stuff than that before.

by Tripon on Aug 28, 2010 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I still fail to see how down 3-1 in the 7th constitutes Belisario being “one of the best relievers” though.

I think the fact that he went to Belisario first was just that he needed a guy to get through that inning, and Belisario was a better choice than Weaver or Sherrill.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 28, 2010 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe best was wrong

But I don’t think Jansen is higher on the totem pole than Belisario is. If he was, he’d have pitch more than Belisario over the past series of games.

by Tripon on Aug 28, 2010 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jansen was used for 2 innings on August 20, then not used for 5 straight days.

Jansen was then used for 2 innings on August 26, so tonight would have been on one day rest. Most likely, he wouldn’t have had Jansen throw more than an inning.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 28, 2010 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kyle Russell's numbers this month...

after a double and a hr today:

.323/.402/.635

@neufaustcan

by uclatroy on Aug 28, 2010 8:25 PM PDT reply actions  

On the bright side

I threw a perfect game on MLB the Show against someone online. I used Kershaw and it was awesome!

by robotmadeofnails on Aug 28, 2010 9:03 PM PDT reply actions  

nice

Didn’t someone win a million bucks for that recently?

by Eric Stephen on Aug 28, 2010 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yea on 2K10, but it had to be against the computer at a certain difficulty.

by robotmadeofnails on Aug 28, 2010 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have that for PS2…and for some reason they didnt include batting practice for the PS2 version. I have a very difficult time hitting vs the computer..even at the veteran level.

Pitching is way easier.

by Joey Joe on Aug 28, 2010 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I switched to the “wide” batting angle, and it has helped me tremendously.

by robotmadeofnails on Aug 28, 2010 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

So the Dodgers went from the pennant race to playing out the string in 1 game?

by Joey Joe on Aug 28, 2010 9:13 PM PDT reply actions  

I blame the Rockies broadcast

for jinxing Billingsley with their “no home runs streak longest currently in majors” stat earlier in the game. (I watched it on tape tonight.)

Oh well, was hping for 2 outta 3 in Colorado and by gum they can still do that tomorrow! Any indication if Manny is gonna frickin’ play manana?

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Aug 28, 2010 9:30 PM PDT reply actions  

If I was a betting man, i would say no.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 28, 2010 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Time to start another argument

Russell Martin should curse Rod Barajas.

by Tripon on Aug 28, 2010 9:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Ethan Martin

::Shakes head::

What a horrible year. He’s putting up close to Greg Miller walk rates over his last 10 outings (7.87).

by silverwidow on Aug 28, 2010 9:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Manny's Function Is?

     Just got back from the game—Manny took BP—looked ok to me. Worked out, did his exercises, ran sprints—looked fine. Are we shipping his a$$ off to Chicago or not? Manny isn’t going to do shit for us the rest of the way except play every 5th or 6th day, make people more pi$$ed off at Posednik, be hurt again, etc.. He no longer has any relevant function on the Dodgers except to keep trainers busy or pose as the most overpaid pinch hitter in baseball.
     In what, three years, we went from a overcrowded outfield of Werth, Pierre, Kemp, Ethier, Manny, and Andruw F*cking Jones to some shmo in left, a CF who needs his agent to fill his sippy cup, and Ethier. But we keep Manny.

by SortaLaSorda on Aug 28, 2010 10:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Kind of agree. If he isn’t going to play for an entire series in Colorado except for the occasional pinch hitting appearance then why even ponder keeping him. Only good reason I can think of is that they are holding the White Sox to the fire for a better trade package and are a little worried about Manny re-injuring his hammy in the meantime.

by Xeifrank on Aug 28, 2010 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or we could just be underestimating the depth of Joe Torre's stupidity

The bottom of the 7th was a perfect example. Beli got two out and allowed a baserunner. The next three batters in the order are lefty CarGo, righty Tulo, and lefty Helton. Sherrill’s OPS Against vs lefties this season is .563, and .496 for his career. Beli’s is .648 this season, and .695 for his career. CarGo’s splits are almost identical this season, but his career OPS vs righties is 75 pts higher than vs lefties. Sherrill didn’t pitch yesterday, so he was well rested. Once again, Joe didn’t give the team its best chance to win. It’s become more and more obvious that he only won in New York because of the team’s enormous resources.

by The Dude Abides on Aug 28, 2010 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

OT

I saw this ad on the astros yahoo sports page:

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Aug 28, 2010 11:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Padres lose and likely

see their probability of winning the NL West rise a tiny bit since the Giants and Dodgers lost (mostly Giants). Padres looking to run out the clock on the rest of the division.

by Xeifrank on Aug 28, 2010 11:35 PM PDT reply actions  

And we're out of it again...

Win tomorrow and we’re back in this!!! Sort of…

"What's your name?" "Fuck you, that's my name"

by angelofdeath on Aug 29, 2010 12:31 AM PDT reply actions  

I really wish it was number 3

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 7:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Eric: Are you going to be coming to us live from the courtroom tomorrow?

by vadodger on Aug 29, 2010 7:48 AM PDT reply actions  

No sir

I have 0% interest in that, nor do I have the time.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 7:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

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Pos No Player 2012 Salary
C 17 Ellis $500,000 team control
1B 7 Loney $6,375,000
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3B 5 Uribe $8,000,000
SS 9 Gordon $485,000 team control
LF 21 Rivera $4,000,000
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SP 22 Kershaw $8,500,000 arb
SP 58 Billingsley $9,000,000
SP 29 Lilly $12,000,000
SP 37 Capuano $3,000,000
SP 44
Harang $3,000,000

CL 54 Guerra $485,000 team control
RHP 74
Jansen $500,000 team control
RHP 55 Guerrier $4,750,000
RHP Coffey $1,000,000
RHP 66 MacDougal $650,000
LHP 57 Elbert $485,000 team control
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47 Wil Ledezma lhp
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72 Shane Lindsay rhp
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70 Will Savage rhp
27
71 Ryan Tucker rhp
25

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