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Lilly, Dodgers Seek To Continue Streaks

A look at today's finale at Coors Field, by the numbers:

  • One:  Plate appearance by Manny Ramirez in two games since he was claimed off waivers by the White Sox on Friday
  • Two:  Home runs by Todd Helton this weekend, after two home runs in his previous 31 games and four home runs on the season before Friday
  • Three: Saves by the Dodgers this week: two by Hong-Chih Kuo, and one by Octavio Dotel
  • Four:  Extra-base hits by Rod Barajas, in his four games as a Dodger
  • Five:  Straight wins by Ted Lilly as a Dodger. The last Dodger pitcher to win six games in a calendar month was Burt Hooton, in August 1975
  • Six:  Consecutive series finales with the Rockies won by the Dodgers, after splitting the first two games
  • Seven:  Straight games with a home run for the Dodgers, a season-high streak
  • Eight:  Doubles in August by Andre Ethier
  • Nine: Game hitting streak by Ryan Theriot, who is hitting .333/.366/.513 during that span. Theriot also has nine multi-hit games as a Dodger.
  • Ten:  Straight series wins over Colorado by the Dodgers

Here is the Dodger record this year, broken down by television station:

TV Station W-L Pct RS RA
KCAL 21-17 .553 179 156
Prime Ticket 42-38 .525 348 349
Fox 3-5 .375 26 35
ESPN 1-3 .250 13 12
Totals 67-63 .515 566 552

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Game Time: 12:10 p.m.

TV: KCAL

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No hitter this year for the Dodgers

by vadodger on Aug 29, 2010 8:55 AM PDT reply actions  

The first pitch time given is for Denver. The game starts at 12:10 over in Pacific Time Zoneland.

by Bob Timmermann on Aug 29, 2010 8:59 AM PDT reply actions  

D'oh

I was lazy this morning, and didn’t want to type that extra digit!

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Trade rumors?
One idea is for the Tigers to take a shot at Matt Kemp, the Dodgers outfielder who’s in the doghouse. Kemp has talent. He also has a bit of baggage (attitude questions, a fast-lane West Coast life befitting a man who dates Rihanna, etc.) that doesn’t make him a likely candidate for the Tigers.

From The Detroit News: http://www.detnews.com/article/20100828/OPINION03/8280412/1129/Tigers-won-t-reach-top-without-more-pop#ixzz0y0nIOFRZ

by Tripon on Aug 29, 2010 9:08 AM PDT reply actions  

Fuck that, Kemp's much more valuable than freakin porcello

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 29, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

porcello

and jacob turner would do

by matthewmafa on Aug 29, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

+1

Leading the league in OMGs || Proud owner of a Chad Billingsley Real Doll

by Maddz on Aug 29, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

How to be a sportswrtier for a newspaper these days

Write an article about Matt Kemp saying that he is in the doghouse and dates Rhianna!

by wineracquet on Aug 29, 2010 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

They would move Kemp to RF to replace Magglio

If he can’t play CF in Dodger Stadium, it would be a trainwreck in Detroit

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Excellent numbering list in the game preview

as we can never get past “first” as a community. :)

by Xeifrank on Aug 29, 2010 9:20 AM PDT reply actions  

Ken Gurnick reports that Manny Ramirez will not start again today.

by Bob Timmermann on Aug 29, 2010 9:22 AM PDT reply actions  

If he doesn’t start tomorrow at home, it’s over. He’ll be a ChiSox.

by silverwidow on Aug 29, 2010 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s gone no matter what

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Manny’s last AB as a Dodger will be pinch-hitting for Lilly today against Matt Belisle.

by Bob Timmermann on Aug 29, 2010 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's a pretty solid prediction there

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think this one pans out better than your Guo prediction.

by Xeifrank on Aug 29, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

For non-prospects and some salary relief or complete salary relief?

by silverwidow on Aug 29, 2010 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Probably the former. I think the White Sox will pay at least half, if not more, of his salary.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rockies lineup

per Troy Renck / Denver Post:

Young 2B
Fowler CF
Gonzalez LF
Tulowitzki SS
Helton 1B
Spilborghs RF
Iannetta C
Herrera 3B
Hammel P

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 9:31 AM PDT reply actions  

Mora has 3 hits in 41 PA vs Lilly

Otherwise, he’d be playing at 3B for the ailing Stewart

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dodgers lineup

Podsednik LF
Theriot 2B
Ethier RF
Kemp CF
Loney 1B
Blake 3B
Carroll SS
Ausmus C
Lilly P

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 9:37 AM PDT reply actions  

It is so sad

What is so sad about not starting Manny in either of these two games, is that the Dodgers are really screwing a player on his way out. In 2008 the Dodgers don’t win unless Manny comes to the Dodgers. While the PED thing last year was not good, when he was healthy he still played well. This year he is showing signs of a 38 year old, but he still hits and according to all offical Dodger reports, Conte, Torre and Ned he has wanted to get back on the field, while has has been injured. I hope Torre is happy when Pods goes 0-3 with a walk and Lilly and the Dodgers lose 6-3…

Perhaps McCourt found a bill he hasn’t paid yet or one of his lawyers will drop out if not paid by Sept 1!

by wineracquet on Aug 29, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hope Torre is happy when Pods goes 0-3 with a walk and Lilly and the Dodgers lose 6-3

Humma Kavula would certainly appreciate that score, at least.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jim Riggleman, unusually candid

talking about Nyjer Morgan’s latest BS last night, from Dave Nichols of Nats News Network:

It’s a mistake, and I can’t minimize it. If I take the approach there’s nothing wrong with it, then we’re going to get people hurt on the field. There’s gotta be retaliation. If Nyjer was playing today he’d get hit. If an opposing player did that to my catcher and he came to the plate he’d get hit.

You almost never see a manager acknowledge an intentional beaning, no matter how obvious (even though this was hypothetical).

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 10:15 AM PDT reply actions  

Think he tackled a catcher who was standing nowhere near the plate

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Aug 29, 2010 10:23 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

He tried to score in a play at the plate and tried to run over Anderson, the Cardinals catcher, except he missed the plate. And knocked over Anderson. Pudge Rodriguez grabbed him and told him to go touch him, but that made Morgan out automatically.

by Bob Timmermann on Aug 29, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

The run also would have been the Nationals 13th run of a game they were leading by eight or nine runs.

by prosellis on Aug 29, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I really should be doing work.

Stupid lazy Sundays…

Leading the league in OMGs || Proud owner of a Chad Billingsley Real Doll

by Maddz on Aug 29, 2010 10:26 AM PDT reply actions  

Work is for chumps

Also:

Closets are for hangers, women use the door

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

hahaha

nice

Leading the league in OMGs || Proud owner of a Chad Billingsley Real Doll

by Maddz on Aug 29, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just have been waiting to use a line from Rosalita (Come Out Tonight) forever.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

#Manny is tentatively scheduled to start tomorrow, Joe Torre said.

http://twitter.com/dylanohernandez

by Alex41592 on Aug 29, 2010 10:44 AM PDT reply actions  

Against Roy Halladay of course. Or I suppose Mitch Talbot.

by Alex41592 on Aug 29, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hahahahahahaha, the new NFL fan ad is great.

“But a dirty bird can’t fly without his wings.”

by Tripon on Aug 29, 2010 10:47 AM PDT reply actions  

White Sox

must be thrilled they are trying to trade for a guy who can’t start over PodBoy. If Manny does end up on the White Sox I will be disappointed that the Rays didn’t trade for him before the fake deadline. I’d much rather see Manny trying to help the Rays beat the Yankee’s, and Sox then the White Sox trying to beat the Twins.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 29, 2010 10:56 AM PDT reply actions  

Rays should have offered a sweet prospect then.

by silverwidow on Aug 29, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not going to get one from Chicago either

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 29, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Dodgers probably didn’t bite on the package of Lance Cormier and Gabe Kapler.

by Bob Timmermann on Aug 29, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

By the way the White Sox do go to Fenway September 3rd, 4th and 5th. And play them seven times in September.

by Alex41592 on Aug 29, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Manny putting the knife into the Red Sox

I would enjoy nothing better at this point to see Manny return to Boston for the White Sox and hit a bunch of HR’s and help push the Red Sox down.

by wineracquet on Aug 29, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Red broadcaster was just talking about

how the Cardinals could have:
1.MVP / Triple Crown Winner
2. Cy Young
3. ROY

and still not make the playoffs.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 29, 2010 11:02 AM PDT reply actions  

And I can almost see the Red broadcaster smiling from here when saying that.

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mike Shannon was talking about the same thing today.

He was saying that the MVP is a lock. And Wainwright could stop pitching today and be the favorite for the Cy Young.

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pujols has 629 career SB. That is mindblowing for a super power hitter. Talk about a HOF lock.

by silverwidow on Aug 29, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Boy do I look stupid. Wrong column. That’s his Ks.

by silverwidow on Aug 29, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would not be shocked

They are a very top heavy team

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Cards do have an excellent shot at all three awards, and if they do win they will be the first team ever to capture all three.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Phil's man crush

Joey Votto will be the MVP this year, IMO.

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s my pick too, but there is a lot of season left.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Joe Torre

is a showrunner, who knows which cast member is going to die at the end of the season, but doesn’t want to spoil the surprise, despite the fact that everyone knows about said cast member’s new series

by Josie Becker on Aug 29, 2010 11:09 AM PDT reply actions  

John Lannan hits a two run double off Wainwright.

by Alex41592 on Aug 29, 2010 11:15 AM PDT reply actions  

At this point

 I still have no idea why Manny is not playing other than it’s an edict from the top or is he indeed done as a Dodger. Torre has his weirdnesses but there’s no way on his own he sits Manny every game of this critical series. Or is there? Maybe they don’t want him to get hurt before he’s traded? But I still don’t get it, wouldn’t you want to work a trade for someone who’s proven he can hit? Or are they just trying to prove We Can Win Without Manny? Assume the latter.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Aug 29, 2010 11:21 AM PDT reply actions  

Or Torre really really really doesn’t want Manny playing defense in Coors.

by Alex41592 on Aug 29, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think that violates one of the laws of thermodynamics.

by Bob Timmermann on Aug 29, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I stopped reading that after

“Steve Lyons told…”

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Aug 29, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Torre said he wouldn’t sit with #Manny to map out his playing schedule until Tuesday.

Torre on whether he’s benching #Manny to try to get him to waive his no-trade: “I’m not trying to do anything. I’m trying to win games.”

http://twitter.com/dylanohernandez

by Alex41592 on Aug 29, 2010 11:25 AM PDT reply actions  

Trying to win games would be playing Manny Ramirez over Scott Podsednik.

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jay Gibbons was the greatest Dodger ever at the time that happened. :)

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Right…for two games. I was angry when it happened too, but considering that Matt Kemp is tied with James Loney for the club lead in starts, it’s time to move on.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

That was a joke. I’m not equating the two. We know why Manny isn’t playing.

by Tripon on Aug 29, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Eric is trying to pick a fight with you today. :)

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Torre is such a liar. It’s sad that he won’t just tell the truth. The Dodgers don’t really care about winning.

by Jason Ungar on Aug 29, 2010 11:28 AM PDT reply actions  

Well, he’s never going to say “we aren’t playing him because he is about to be traded.” That never happens.

It’s just part of the dance.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

no comment works. i make the line up works. don’t ask me works.

by Jason Ungar on Aug 29, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

But, if Torre believes that Manny can’t play the field, especially in the Yosemite that is Coors Field, then what he is saying is consistent with his beliefs.

Torre could be wrong at the same time he things he is doing the right thing.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

No comment would just get the reporters speculating. Don’t ask me sounds crabby. I make the lineup sounds like a dick.

Torre said he thinks this lineup gives him the best chance to win is his best PR move. Now he’s just a guy trying to figure stuff out instead of an asshole who won’t help out the media.

by Tripon on Aug 29, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

but you know, i know and everyone knows he is lying.

by Jason Ungar on Aug 29, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

he’s taking orders from his superiors. Try not listening to your boss at work and see what happens. :)

by Xeifrank on Aug 29, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

“Mr. Torre, there’s a Jason Phillips on the phone…”

by Bob Timmermann on Aug 29, 2010 11:29 AM PDT reply actions  

WWTWD?

What would Tim Wallach do?

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Aug 29, 2010 11:35 AM PDT reply actions  

Kyle Russell has really turned it on since the AS Break

especially this month.

Despite his k rate, if he puts up a line of: .265-270/.350/.530 in a full season next year would he be considered one of our top positional prospects?

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 29, 2010 11:36 AM PDT reply actions  

If he was younger, you can excuse the K rate easier. he’s going to 25, and already K’ing at a historic rate. He’s losing whatever time he has left to change his approach to something that can survive in the majors.

by Tripon on Aug 29, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

The month 4down is talking about the K rate has plunged. SSS of course

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

When are you headed to Vegas?

by Xeifrank on Aug 29, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Looking like not during baseball season I’m afraid.

Do you simulate football games?

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

haha – not yet. :)

by Xeifrank on Aug 29, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Who fucking cares? He would be god damn 25, not 35

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 29, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Then why did you ask the question?

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think that’s a bs answer, that’s why I reacted like that. At 25 hitting better than all but 1 or 2 of our hitting prospects he’d have to be considered one of our top guys IMO. If he’s 28 and doing it then obviously he’s no prospect, but again I think that if a player is able to play I don’t give a crap about age, he should get a shot to play.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 29, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

How many comments do we need on Kyle Russell?

Hundreds? Thousands?

Everyone knows you like the guy. There are only so many ways to make the same point over and over again.

It’s always the same thing. Everyone here tells you:

1) he’s too old for his league(s)
2) he strikes out too much

Yet you always ignore that and want to argue over and over again.

Your feelings on Russell are noted, as are those of just about everyone else.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

What about Nipsey?

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Aug 29, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Those are always welcome :)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Everytime I look

at that picture I sent you, I laugh harder and harder. I don’t know why, I just do.

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not even. Stults was never as good as Russell has been in comparison.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 29, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Stults provided more use for the organization as the first starter called up from triple-A.

Russell’s role is a PH as currently constructed.

Russell as a player is not better than Sands, Robinson, Kemp, Ethier, or Loney.

by Tripon on Aug 29, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s a better defender than all those guys (corner guys.) You are right, he’s a PH / defensive replacement. Makes him more valuable than Delwyn Young.

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not if Young could spell at IF too, plus Young was a switch hitter.

by Tripon on Aug 29, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Waiver trade question

Can the Dodgers only trade Manny for players on the White Sox who have also cleared waivers already? ie – Can only players who have cleared waivers on BOTH teams be involved in trades at this point?

by Xeifrank on Aug 29, 2010 11:37 AM PDT reply actions  

Most likely it would be for players to be named later who wouldn’t be picked until their league’s season is over.

by Bob Timmermann on Aug 29, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone on the 40-man roster can only be traded if they clear waivers.

To get around that, a player on the 40-man can be a PTBNL, and the trade can be completed after the season.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

A Creative way to have used Manny today

If the Dodgers really wanted to protect both Manny and get mr. energy in Pods, Torre could have batted Manny first and let him have a few AB’s 2-3 and then replace Manny with Pods. Drag about tomorrow when Manny probably gets his last start as a Dodger, he will be rusty!

by wineracquet on Aug 29, 2010 11:49 AM PDT reply actions  

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2012 Dodgers Payroll

Italics denote estimates
Pos No Player 2012 Salary
C 17 Ellis $500,000 team control
1B 7 Loney $6,375,000
2B 14 Ellis $2,500,000
3B 5 Uribe $8,000,000
SS 9 Gordon $485,000 team control
LF 21 Rivera $4,000,000
CF 27 Kemp $10,000,000
RF 16 Ethier $10,950,000

IF/OF 6 Hairston $2,250,000
OF 10 Gwynn $850,000
2B/3B 3 Kennedy $800,000
C 18 Treanor $850,000
IF 12 Sellers $485,000 team control

SP 22 Kershaw $8,500,000 arb
SP 58 Billingsley $9,000,000
SP 29 Lilly $12,000,000
SP 37 Capuano $3,000,000
SP 44
Harang $3,000,000

CL 54 Guerra $485,000 team control
RHP 74
Jansen $500,000 team control
RHP 55 Guerrier $4,750,000
RHP Coffey $1,000,000
RHP 66 MacDougal $650,000
LHP 57 Elbert $485,000 team control
RHP 36
Hawksworth $500,000 team control

TJ 41 De La Rosa $485,000 team control



Manny $8,087,432 deferred


Andruw $3,375,000 deferred


Pierre $3,050,000 deferred
Furcal $3,000,000 deferred
Kuroda $2,000,000 deferred
Garland $1,500,000 option buyout
Blake $1,250,000 option buyout

Totals
$114,662,432

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Current 40-man roster count: 40
(not including Belisario)

2012 Non-Roster Invitees

No Player Age*
63 Jose Ascanio rhp
27
61 Alberto Castillo lhp
36
60 Matt Chico lhp
29
35 John Grabow lhp
33
59 Angel Guzman rhp
30
47 Wil Ledezma lhp
31
72 Shane Lindsay rhp
27
62 Fernando Nieve rhp 29
73 Scott Rice lhp 30
70 Will Savage rhp
27
71 Ryan Tucker rhp
25

30 Josh Bard c 34
82 Griff Erickson c 24
81 Matt Wallachc 26
67 Jeff Baisley 3b/1b 29
62 Luis Cruz ss/2b 28
33 Josh Fields 3b 29
64 Lance Zawadzki if 27
56 Cory Sullivan of 32

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