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Dodgers / Rockies Game Chat: This One Goes To 11?

Los Angeles Dodgers at Colorado Rockies, Aug 29, 2010 12:10 PM PDT


What a shock. The Dodgers and Rockies have split the first two games of a three-game series. The rubber game awaits.

Here are the lineups:

Dodgers      Rockies
LF Podsednik     
2B Young
2B Theriot CF Fowler
RF Ethier LF Gonzalez
CF Kemp SS Tulowitzki     
1B Loney 1B Helton
3B Blake RF Spilborghs
SS Carroll C Iannetta
C Ausmus 3B Herrera
P Lilly     
P Hammel

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Damn, I hear crickets chirping.

by KellyStephen on Aug 29, 2010 11:54 AM PDT reply actions  

Just tell 4 Down that Kyle Russell sucks. Business will pick up in a second. :)

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kyle Russell needs to improve dramatically before he gets to suck level.

by KellyStephen on Aug 29, 2010 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I need a nap now. That was some detailed stuff. I think one of the most telling graphs was the location of his knuckleballs.

He is consistently inconsistent. When he is consistent, it seems to be middle in and high. Not the best spots to miss when

the ball is traveling between 65-70 mph. Great stuff there, Eric.

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fourth

option for why homeboy is making that face, Manny just announced he is marrying his daughter

by Josie Becker on Aug 29, 2010 11:57 AM PDT reply actions  

Fifth

a) hour of sleep for Humma since Folly was birthed
b) of gin he will drink today

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 11:58 AM PDT reply actions  

Frank Thomas is on TBS right now. He had his number retired today in Chicago. He sounds so excited. Very cool.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 12:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah for KCAL audio fail! I hear the spanish radio feed on top of Vinny.

by Alex41592 on Aug 29, 2010 12:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Could it be Vinny showing his ability and doing the broadcast in Spanish today? :)

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey Vin!

I’m in Arkansas, thanks for the kind words.

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 12:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Manny would’ve bunted and got on there. JT is trying to screw the Dodgers! :)

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 12:13 PM PDT reply actions  

If our top 3 next year is Pods/Theriot/Furcal…

I won’t like it.

by silverwidow on Aug 29, 2010 12:14 PM PDT reply actions  

at least you won’t be surprised.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Theriot will likely be moved to 8th in this potential lineup.

by Tripon on Aug 29, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Theriot will go on arbitration next year???

I would like to see DeJesus at 2B next year…

Louise Bourgoin: The hottest French actress I've ever seen <3

by Jojo93160 on Aug 29, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s nice to want things

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

 In April, yeah..by May Furcal will be out “day to day” for months

by Jason Ungar on Aug 29, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Carlos Gonzalez starts by position

at Home: 33 LF, 28 CF, 5 RF
on Road: 15 LF, 26 CF, 21 RF

Really moves around

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 12:16 PM PDT reply actions  

He’s damn near hitting .330. Silverwidow must be proud…

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m still embarrassed by that Pujols brainfart in the other thread. Wow, that so ridiculous.

by silverwidow on Aug 29, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

You caught it, at least. I was pulling up BB ref when you posted the correction.

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, it would be much better than that

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s hitting 373 at coors according to vin

by Riffraffselbow on Aug 29, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

He crushes at Coors no doubt

I think ATF’s point is that he is a great hitter and would hit better than .275, no matter what team he played for.

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s hitting .267 on the road.

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

This was the point I’m making.
That said, it could be argued that great hitters find a way to thrive no matter where they are.

by Riffraffselbow on Aug 29, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I was looking at that

MLB average is 266 at home and 252 on road, so in general hitters are ~5% better at home.

So, just roughly, .267 on the road would be ~.282 on the road, which would (again, roughly) average out to .274 or .275.

So there we are. Huh.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am thinking

that the Rockies should send him to LA to see if his splits improve any. I would love for LA to be

the place he attempts to prove the Coors field theory wrong.

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eh, CarGo doesn't need to do that

Holliday is already a perfectly fine case study

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes
A case study is a research methodology common in social science. It is based on an in-depth investigation of a single individual, group, or event.

I’d rather not give up more than we have to :)

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Honestly though, I’m trying to think of others who have moved from Coors. And even with Holliday, people were shoveling the dirt on his grave when he went to Oakland.

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think the year with StL counts more than 3 mo in Oakland

No one hits there either

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Would Cargo hit there?

Since your position was that he would hit much higher than .275 no matter where he was.

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well I didn't explicitly say that

but I wouldn’t be surprised. He has improved his approach since he was last there.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I obviously dont watch cargo everyday, but his numbers say otherwise. He is walking less than he ever has, is swinging at a ton more pitches outside the zone, etc. I just dont know how sustainable his production would be away from Coors.

by UCLADodger32 on Aug 29, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

When you improve your OContact% from 45% to 59.2%, increasing your OSwing% isn't necessarily a bad thing

He has just been making better contact, home and road.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just dont know if a jump that big is sustainable. The lack of walks, especially on the road, is alarming. His BABIP wont continue to be .370, and unless your name is Vlad Guerrero, its really hard to be a stud with that kind of O-Swing%

by UCLADodger32 on Aug 29, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

The thing is, he is certainly capable of matching Vlad Guerrero at O-Swing%

Vlad can’t be the only one. He scalds the ball often, so he will always have a high BABIP. I agree that the K/BB home/road splits are worrying though

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

He hits the ball HARD

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

So did Pablo Sandoval last year. Cargos batted ball stats are pretty similar to last year, but his BABIP (other than his stint with Colorado springs) is miles ahead of anything hew put up at any other level. The dude is a really good player, but there is potential for some huge regression.

by UCLADodger32 on Aug 29, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can't really argue with that

Good argument with Sandoval, though his LD% has dropped a lot.

CarGo is posting better numbers than he should be – that I can’t argue – but my eyes say that regression won’t be as big as typical SABR view would suggest. Could just be my purple shades though

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

It definitely is hard to predict regression when you look at a player everyday and they are thriving. I just can see where Cargo could struggle next season if he continues to not walk, chase pitches, and hits into a little bit less luck. All of that feeds into each other, and if he hits into less luck to start the season, he might chase more, put more pressure on himself, and then all of the other numbers come down with it (which i believe happened to Kemp this season). You just never know in baseball where stuff can fluctuate so much year to year.

by UCLADodger32 on Aug 29, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Carney Lansford?

That which is in constant motion contains all possible forms.

by Pure Azure on Aug 29, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

We need more than 1 guy to prove it.

1 is too small a SS.

:)

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

You got the money and prospects to get the ball rolling?

by Riffraffselbow on Aug 29, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I got about $300.00 bucks

and 0 prospects….Looks like a no! :)

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

In fairness, Holliday isn't the only one with crazy home/road splits in his Rockies career

whose splits disappeared when leaving Coors. Vinny Castilla is identified as a Coors product, but he hit .835 OPS away from home his first year after leaving Colorado (his career OPS is .737). I could go on and on….

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Castilla and Bichette?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 29, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I listed Castilla

His splits went away completely when he left Denver. As Mondo says, Coors pushes both splits

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pretty much

One of the least publicized effects is the reverse Coors Effect. With all the talented lineups the Rockies have put out in their 18 year history, only one has posted a sOPS+ above league average on the road. There is undoubtedly an advantage to hitting at Coors, but there is a disadvantage in moving away from Coors and playing a different game.

Matt Holliday had egregious home/road splits, and many projected his road stats only as how he would perform without playing at Coors. Yet his home/road splits mostly disappeared with St. Louis, with both regressing towards each other. It would work that way with CarGo as well

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was Kemp's fault.

Should have backed up dre more there.

by Riffraffselbow on Aug 29, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

isnt it harder to play LF at coors then other balllparks/?

maybe thts why tracy plays him in LF at home but barely on the road… put him in the hardest area to cover because hes your best defender

by matthewmafa on Aug 29, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

it was brought up on last night’s broadcast. I just thought I’d search the numbers.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

LF is definitely larger at Coors Field than RF

Given the size of the Coors outfield, your first question is likely true. Though there aren’t any strange quirks in LF

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ethier has been K’ing a ton recently

by Bakofan on Aug 29, 2010 12:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Well last week he did.

by Alex41592 on Aug 29, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

4 K in 23 PA this week

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Manny-like un-hustle from Ethier there

Maybe he didn’t see the ball that well?

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by underdog on Aug 29, 2010 12:22 PM PDT reply actions  

I hope he did, because that looked very catchable.

by Bakofan on Aug 29, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s a shitty fielder and we all know it.

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I find myself going back to Coors Field is huge. Andre may have been able to get there but he certainly didn’t think he could.

by Alex41592 on Aug 29, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

We need FIELDf/x

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

OT, but

last night was a real big night for me, because I asked my first press conference question, and actually got a long serious response, and I went into the locker room for the first time, and had to leave almost immediately cause I could feel my tongue approaching my lips

by Josie Becker on Aug 29, 2010 12:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Nice try Tulo.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Aug 29, 2010 12:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Loney August .211 AVG 0 HR 8 RBI .570 OPS

by bisonenergy on Aug 29, 2010 12:36 PM PDT reply actions  

His season SLG is < 400…
He’s the new Juan Pierre.

Crappy player that manages to be a fan favorite because he hits .280.

by Joey Joe on Aug 29, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve had an assfull of these state farm commercials.

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 12:37 PM PDT reply actions  

I definitely want to punch that smug spokesman in the nose

But then I don’t want to get scolded for undude-like behavior

by The Dude Abides on Aug 29, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m right behind you with a sledgehammer. Not a fan of the guy

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I want to beat the crap out of these cheap assholes talking about how they save money.

What losers.

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly!

Let me spend more money elsewhere in peace!

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m more outraged by the one dude’s friends. They guy doesn’t say much at all about his frugal ways, yet all his friends want to do is shit on him for it.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

“you live a lifestyle of intelligent and principled frugality? Loser!”

by Riffraffselbow on Aug 29, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank God we could help Helton get out of his funk

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 12:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Helton killing the ball

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 12:40 PM PDT reply actions  

rest

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

James Loney

you can go all the way back to June 24, 2008, a period of 373 games (plus today’s one AB), a total of 1,532 PA…

and he is slugging .39913.

Total batting line of .276/.337/.399

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 12:43 PM PDT reply actions  

I have a man-crush on Iannetta

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 12:43 PM PDT reply actions  

You would fit in at Purple Row

:)

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rockies brass still hate the guy? I’d love to see what he could do in LA with regular plate appearances.

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure seems like it

Olivo has been as valuable as a pitcher with the bat since the ASB, but he’s still getting over half the starts.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eric and I were going back and forth on what kind of trade would work for both clubs. I said Ivan DeJesus and Xavier Paul while Eric said COL would want a pitcher back. Thoughts?

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would HATE to trade CDI within the division

The minor league system is pretty stocked with SP and OF, and with Ey2, Herrera and Nelson all vying for the 2B job, one may even be traded away. The weakness is corner infield bats, though I’m not sure if Iannetta is enough to address that with his weak 08-09

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll take responsibility for that one guys

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 12:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Right off the glove.

by Alex41592 on Aug 29, 2010 12:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Well shit. Some early season Kemp there. Long run, no finish.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 12:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Steve Dilbeck makes another black mark in his book.

by Bob Timmermann on Aug 29, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

What happened to his Bison speed?

by Joey Joe on Aug 29, 2010 12:45 PM PDT reply actions  

speed wasn’t the problem. he got there

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tough Play...That is why Joe didn't start Manny

Joe T…..to Ken R,

See I knew there was a method to my madness. If Matt Kemp can’t catch that in CF, obviously Manny couldn’t catch a ball in LF, so I won’t start him today!

by wineracquet on Aug 29, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just signed up for an alert system on my droid for my sports teams. So now, in addition to watching the Dodgers start trailing, I have to get reminded of it by my cell phone a few minutes later.

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 12:48 PM PDT reply actions  

I get em from ESPN.

I know the shitty feeling

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

5ks in 2ip for Lilly.

by Joey Joe on Aug 29, 2010 12:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Lilly is striking out (almost) everybody

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 12:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Another commercial

I am not a fan of is the Carls Jr. Philly Cheesesteak burger.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 12:50 PM PDT reply actions  

steak on a burger seems redundant

by I'm Kind of a Big Teal on Aug 29, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

They apparently don’t do “boigahs”

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s what angers me the most about the commercial: the accents :)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Jamey Carroll takes the pitch, it’s a ball!

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 12:53 PM PDT reply actions  

On Jamey Carroll that’s a very high strike.

by Alex41592 on Aug 29, 2010 12:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Rippin the ball off of Walter Johnson so far….

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 12:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Hammel 94~95 mph fastball

by bisonenergy on Aug 29, 2010 12:55 PM PDT reply actions  

If Joe isn’t going to start Manny, Ned needs to trade him.

by bisonenergy on Aug 29, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

You might be on to something there

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

No. It’ll come as soon as I forget, to remind me.

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mine are pretty fast

so I don’t have to pick my phone up and look.

I know it’s shitty news.

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m going to stop talking shit about The Mirage.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 1:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Mirage?

Your nickname for CarGo?

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I suppose

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

jokingly, of course :)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lilly = Mirage V2

:)

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

No shit.

I knew coming to Coors would be tough for him.

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

SSS alert

but Lilly’s FIP today is 2.87 :)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha. Well striking every other batter out will do that for you

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rockies are a feast or famine offense for sure

Sometimes in teh same game

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lilly is the finest pitcher who ever lived. You take that back!

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

That ball doesn’t go out in Oakland….

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 1:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Probably not

but it was still scalded. Double or triple

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can’t wait to see Bryce Harper in Coors.

by silverwidow on Aug 29, 2010 1:03 PM PDT reply actions  

I laughed way too hard at this

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Someone called him Larry Walker lite. Just sayin. :)

by silverwidow on Aug 29, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

There we go. Time to make stuff happen.

by Alex41592 on Aug 29, 2010 1:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Gritty McGritterson with a hit

Hopefully he will make himself useful and end up on 2 nd before Theriot puts the ball in play

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 1:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Things are happening. Grit alert.

by Alex41592 on Aug 29, 2010 1:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Theriot continues with hits to RF. Good job sir.

Ethier bunts to move him into scoring position…

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 1:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Steiner has trouble talking about Theriot without using cliche after cliche..

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 1:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Do you have video of that? I’ve never seen that move work.

by Bakofan on Aug 29, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not sure where I can find it

but it happened in interleague play this year against the dodgers

by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 29, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is also a good time to remind Pumpkinhead that a runner has to be on 3B for the move to be legal.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Another catcher I wouldn't mind seeing in Dodger Blue

Chris Ianetta. Though hopefully as some sort of platoon if he isn’t too spensive

Pele breathes words of comfort, Seena just hides her eyes
Policeman taps his shades, Is that a chevy 69?

by G.Scott on Aug 29, 2010 1:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Michael White and G Scott are officially starting the Chris Ianetta move to LA club…

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

La club

Angels?

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now you’re just trying to get us riled up

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

If we had a half decent in-house choice

I’d be advocating for them instead. Personally, I think there is something to think about when you’ve always been platooned and when you’re about to get your shot they sign Miguel Olivo and you end up sitting. Has to be more than just a L/R split problem when your vs LHP OPS+ is 125 and vs RHP is 91.

How’s his defense/game handling abilities? I know nothing about him other than he hits lefties well.

Pele breathes words of comfort, Seena just hides her eyes
Policeman taps his shades, Is that a chevy 69?

by G.Scott on Aug 29, 2010 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

He is an above average game calling

average to slightly below average at throwing runners out and average to above average at blocking balls.

As for Olivo, he was signed to be the backup, and Iannetta got most of the starts early on. But Olivo raked for three months while Iannetta struggled mightily.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ethier is grinding.

by Alex41592 on Aug 29, 2010 1:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Right into an infield pop up. Look out bat rack!

by Alex41592 on Aug 29, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

bench coach needs to move soon!

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was one unsure ab by Ethier.

by UCLADodger32 on Aug 29, 2010 1:15 PM PDT reply actions  

I

Suppose if Manny is batting behind Ethier, Andre would have gotten a hit there

by bhsportsguy on Aug 29, 2010 1:15 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

You can't gurantee it but......

BH

That is the meataphor, if Manny bats between Ethier and Kemp or Loney, the pitches might be different, even if Manny strikes out. Would Tulo’s hit probably have been a double instead of a single yes! Would we have at least a run by now…I say yes!

by wineracquet on Aug 29, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is the meataphor

But hat actually happened.

Pele breathes words of comfort, Seena just hides her eyes
Policeman taps his shades, Is that a chevy 69?

by G.Scott on Aug 29, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thats the fastball Kemp has to put in play to avoid these types of counts.

by UCLADodger32 on Aug 29, 2010 1:16 PM PDT reply actions  

and then thats what happens. just another piss poor ab

by UCLADodger32 on Aug 29, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Please tell me Kemp has had more passion this year than that

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2010 1:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Interesting word choice.

Did Mundane Garage tell you to type that? :)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mondogarage?

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because striking out only happens due to lack of effort.

Pele breathes words of comfort, Seena just hides her eyes
Policeman taps his shades, Is that a chevy 69?

by G.Scott on Aug 29, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Effort=/=Passion

It was pretty listless afterwards. SSS and all that. I don’t watch Dodger games.

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow. Another threat wasted. Runner at third with nobody out.

by Alex41592 on Aug 29, 2010 1:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Matt Kemp's fault

That which is in constant motion contains all possible forms.

by Pure Azure on Aug 29, 2010 1:17 PM PDT reply actions  

And

There are the reasons why this team is not winning games.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 29, 2010 1:17 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Well shit

Trade anyone over 32 yrs old tonight

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 1:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Why trade them

When its the guys 27 and younger who are inconsistent.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 29, 2010 1:22 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Okay then

Lets trade Loney, Kemp, Kershaw, Bills, Broxton, and Jansen.

Sounds awesoke to me.

{pukes in trash can}

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hot Blake Batting 6.Why?

by bisonenergy on Aug 29, 2010 1:19 PM PDT reply actions  

because hot streaks come and go and you shouldn’t keep adjusting your lineup on a whim

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

You

Can complain about lineups and all that but that was just a bad couple of at bats there.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 29, 2010 1:20 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

well

The Guy playing LF today was already on third.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 29, 2010 1:23 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

But, Pods isn’t on third. Theriot’s ball probably doesn’t get through. It’s a totally different game.

by Alex41592 on Aug 29, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not true!

Torre would have just benched Kemp for Scotty pods!

by Tripon on Aug 29, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

maybe

He should have

by bhsportsguy on Aug 29, 2010 1:27 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Ethier on first, Scotty LF, Kemp CF, Manny RF (easier than LF)

Yeah, I went there.

by Riffraffselbow on Aug 29, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sad day

when Pod/Gibbons/Manny might be better then Pods/Loney/Kemp. Loney’s suckitude since the all-star game has completed my jumping off the bangwagon of the Jacksonville five position wise. Guzman, LaRoche, Martin, Abreu, and Loney have all ended nothing more yesterday’s trash. At least Guzman had the decency to suck from the beginning so no time was invested in him.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 29, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

wow, that was the J5 crew?

I thought Kemp was in there somewhere…just goes to show how most prospects turn out to be shit. I know people whine about the deadline trades this year, but McDonald and Lambo will most likely go the same route, though I’m personally rooting for DeWitt cos I like the kid.

That which is in constant motion contains all possible forms.

by Pure Azure on Aug 29, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kemp was in A ball

so he doesn’t count

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 29, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Only Martin

have given us anything to talk about among those five, and he’s now been lousier longer then when he was good.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 29, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think your confusing

the overall team with the production of the Jacksonville group.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 29, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

i love these text questions

by UCLADodger32 on Aug 29, 2010 1:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Pretty sad to see the 3,4,5 hitters look so bad in the clutch like that.

by Bakofan on Aug 29, 2010 1:20 PM PDT reply actions  

in their defense

the #5 hitter should be a #7 hitter.

Pele breathes words of comfort, Seena just hides her eyes
Policeman taps his shades, Is that a chevy 69?

by G.Scott on Aug 29, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anybody else clear waivers like Lilly, Blake, HK?

Any reports? If Dodgers lose today, I support a mini fire sale if value is there in return, though pitchers usually get more back in season.

That which is in constant motion contains all possible forms.

by Pure Azure on Aug 29, 2010 1:22 PM PDT reply actions  

I believe we won’t know on Lilly until Tuesday, and the others either cleared or will clear Monday.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

XBH city (adjacent to K Town) today

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 1:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Cardinals lost

Lets hope San Diego doesnt sandbag again today.

by super eville on Aug 29, 2010 1:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Looks like a good day for the Rockies.

by Alex41592 on Aug 29, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

This to me sounds like

Cousin Eddie telling Clark Griswold that he couldn’t swim.

Clark’s response: “Do you really think it matters, Eddie?”

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

It seems like pitchers have a lot of RBIs against us this year, especially in the first couple of months.

by Bakofan on Aug 29, 2010 1:26 PM PDT reply actions  

14 on the season

average is about 7 per team

Nats have allowed 24
Mil 19
Pit 17
AZ 15

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll listen to the comeback in the car. Smell you peeps later.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 1:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Our Core sucks Donkey Dicks

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 29, 2010 1:27 PM PDT reply actions  

The truth sucks

Matt Kemp - Bringer of drought, puncher of babies faces(ugly ones killed on site), not Larry Bowa's GUY

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 29, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shhh

No one wants to talk about that.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 29, 2010 1:29 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

The LLWS is way more exciting.

Matt Kemp - Bringer of drought, puncher of babies faces(ugly ones killed on site), not Larry Bowa's GUY

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 29, 2010 1:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Lilly getting squeezed a bit

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2010 1:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh just have CarGo hit a grand slam and put us out of our misery.

by Alex41592 on Aug 29, 2010 1:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Ted has made five starts since joining the Dodgers and all of them have been quality starts and wins. Today End

by bisonenergy on Aug 29, 2010 1:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Well THAT probably gets out at other stadiums

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2010 1:32 PM PDT reply actions  

UPSTAIRS!!!!

DUHHUU

Matt Kemp - Bringer of drought, puncher of babies faces(ugly ones killed on site), not Larry Bowa's GUY

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 29, 2010 1:32 PM PDT reply actions  

CarGo is a solid player.

by silverwidow on Aug 29, 2010 1:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Cargo would suck playing in DS

I hope I can get some Manny dreads still

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 29, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck Cargo. how bout that?

I hope I can get some Manny dreads still

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 29, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hopefully he'll suck next year

and Rockie fans can write about he’s having the same kind of year.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 29, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Matt Kemp didn't suck since 2006

your point?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 29, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

ITZ CUZZA RHIANNA

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

My point is, CarGo's >>> Kemp

Of course, CarGo wasn’t in the ML in 2006-2007, so what’s your point?

not as punny as SDcat00

by Mondogarage on Aug 29, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

CarGo and Kemp

One of them plays good defense.

not as punny as SDcat00

by Mondogarage on Aug 29, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s hard to compare them considering their home parks are polar opposites.

by Bakofan on Aug 29, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's not hard to compare their defense

One of them hustles on every play

not as punny as SDcat00

by Mondogarage on Aug 29, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Truth hurts

but no one here will believe it.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 29, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

What the fuck do I know if CarGo hustles every play. I don’t watch their games.

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

If he keeps approaching triple crown numbers...

You will be soon. ESPN’s gonna wake up one day and actually notice.

not as punny as SDcat00

by Mondogarage on Aug 29, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t give a shit about ESPN or CarGo’s hustle. Spare me the small market no respect bullshit.

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd assume the guys who do watch him play every game would know

so I’m going by that.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 29, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I believe it

cos I’ve been on Kemp’s case all year. Hard to believe he gets defended as much as he does on here. Larry Bowa is really irrelevant, the players must be held accountable. Matt Kemp needs to rededicate himself or get the fuck out of town.

That which is in constant motion contains all possible forms.

by Pure Azure on Aug 29, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

The sad part is that Kemp really is a massive talent

There’s absolutely no reason he can’t be the best all around CF in the national league.

not as punny as SDcat00

by Mondogarage on Aug 29, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who wouldn't trade their top three

prospects for a player like Matt Kemp?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 29, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dayton Moore

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Let's hope Hammel got real tired running the bases

like, 40-days-in-the-desert tired

That which is in constant motion contains all possible forms.

by Pure Azure on Aug 29, 2010 1:33 PM PDT reply actions  

“and no chance of rain”

But a high chance of baseball-sized, white and red hail.

by Riffraffselbow on Aug 29, 2010 1:34 PM PDT reply actions  

I always thought The Mirage was an underrated casino :)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 29, 2010 1:34 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

It used to be

Now it’s rated pretty much spot on.

not as punny as SDcat00

by Mondogarage on Aug 29, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

No PTBNL

Just save the McCourt’s a few bux to pay their lawyers.

not as punny as SDcat00

by Mondogarage on Aug 29, 2010 1:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Rays have so much pitching they can just give away the likes

of the Hammels of the world.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 29, 2010 1:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Hammel's stats were pretty much terrible with Tampa

I think Bob Apodaca deserves some credit for this, considering the career turn arounds Matt Belisle, Jorge de la Rosa and Jason Marquis have had in Rockie uniforms recently

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does he also get credit

for the Rockies pitchers who have gone back to sucking?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 29, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like?

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really

your fighting us for fourth place and you think your pitching is above reproach?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 29, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm just asking for examples

Given the pitching staff is #1 in MLB in WAR, attacking the pitching isn’t really very correct. I forgot Huston Street had a nice little turnaround too, specifically due to Apodaca changing his spot on the pitching rubber.

I’m not trolling here or calling the Dodgers crap. Just mentioning that the Rockies’ pitching coach deserves some credit. Is there a problem with that?

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, just really irritated right now with my team.

I’ve just always found when someone wants to give any coach kudo’s for certain players they seem to forget about the players he hasn’t helped. Maybe your boy is better then most.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 29, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I understand your irritation, and maybe I shouldn't be here in a 7-1 game

Cook has regressed under Apodaca, and there are a few relievers that have just been terrible. But there have been far more to experience career years with the Rockies after a subpar career than the other way around, which just shouldn’t happen at Coors Field. Marquis and Jennings also fell apart after leaving Colorado. It is almost eerie

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

that double was all GRIT

by Riffraffselbow on Aug 29, 2010 1:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Vin just said they’ll be building statues for CarGo.

I’m officially off-the-hook. :)

by silverwidow on Aug 29, 2010 1:39 PM PDT reply actions  

I'll

Always have your Withrow will be pitching in Dodger Stadium this year comments to fall back on.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 29, 2010 1:42 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

It really wasn’t that absurd of a statement. His High A and AA numbers last year matched up favorably to Billingsley and McDonald, both of whom appeared with the major league club the following year.

Billingsley might not have actually, but I thought Withrow would have the same track JMac did in 2008 when he got a cup of coffee.

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Withrow

Would have needed to pit up Kershaw type numbers.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 29, 2010 1:48 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

This was the caveat in my prediction — dominate AA and he’d be up this year. I don’t feel like searching for the post, but I did say this.

by silverwidow on Aug 29, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

In hindsight, no he wouldn’t have. The team has trotted out weak starters like Monk and Ely due to lack of options.

Had he repeated in AA what he did at the end of last season, the Dodgers would have started him. They had nobody else.

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

This I agree with

if Withrow had continued to pitch like he did this spring given our options, I think he’d have seen the rotation.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 29, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe not Miller. But definitely for other two.

Miller started too far away.

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right, don't know how Miller got in this conversation.

We two pitchers in Elbert/McDonald who should have stepped us this spring but didn’t, Withrow was a long shot but if he done what we expected he might have forced himself into the equation.

This season has pretty much been a fail for everyone under 25 who was on the team or who was expected to help the team later other then Kershaw/Billingsley/Jansen/DeWitt.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 29, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Vin’s mancrush on Carlos Gonzalez is much more deserved than the one he used to have for Pedro Feliz.

by Bob Timmermann on Aug 29, 2010 1:39 PM PDT reply actions  

That be true

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 29, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chris Carter would fucking mash in AZ

I hope I can get some Manny dreads still

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 29, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

White Sox property

But he’d mash in Chicago as well.

by Tripon on Aug 29, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was traded to AZ then he was scooped up by the Beane

I hope I can get some Manny dreads still

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 29, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

They fucked up

I hope I can get some Manny dreads still

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 29, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

they've been an awful org the last few years..

though they did steal Hudson for E Jackson

That which is in constant motion contains all possible forms.

by Pure Azure on Aug 29, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess thats a case of getting the player to ship him out

and it back fired

I hope I can get some Manny dreads still

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 29, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Orlando? HA

I hope I can get some Manny dreads still

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 29, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is truth

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kcal scoreline guy is unusually error-prone today.

by Riffraffselbow on Aug 29, 2010 1:44 PM PDT reply actions  

That wasn't the curve?

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Aug 29, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah. hangin curve is what he hit to the moon

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

No one is mad right?

I hope I can get some Manny dreads still

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 29, 2010 1:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Loaded for Andre.

This could get interesting really quick like

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 1:47 PM PDT reply actions  

264 with the bases loaded?

WTF?

Okay, from an objective standpoint it’s a small sample size, but still

by Riffraffselbow on Aug 29, 2010 1:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

by Riffraffselbow on Aug 29, 2010 1:50 PM PDT reply actions  

wow

So Ned’s gritty gamers have been doing great today, while the core fails. Repeatedly. Maybe he SHOULD trade all these guys for 30+ year old .275 hitters with no power!

by sarcastro9 on Aug 29, 2010 1:52 PM PDT reply actions  

1988?

I hope I can get some Manny dreads still

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 29, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

pretty much

Though Gibby did have pretty good power, I recall. Still, the bad hamstring would’ve meant he’d fit right in with this crew!

by sarcastro9 on Aug 29, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

That sounds like a good idea.

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pretty soon the core

will be 30 year olds, hitting .275, with no Power.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 29, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Honest question. What do you put the odds that Matt Kemp gets traded this offseason?

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldnt mind moving anyone except Kershaw for the right price.

I hope I can get some Manny dreads still

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 29, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

That kind of goes without saying doesn’t it.

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

40%. Kemp has enough talent that somebody will bite, especially on a buy low situation.

40% for Loney as well. Even the Dodgers can’t love him like they usually do when he hits like this.

by Tripon on Aug 29, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Buy low = us getting fucked, right?

I hope I can get some Manny dreads still

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 29, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unless this isn’t the low. But I would say yes.

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice. Pods/Gibbons next year!

I hope I can get some Manny dreads still

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 29, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

didnt notice it didnt go though. But I would trade everyone. Dre, Kemp, Loney, Russell Martin would get DFAed, Broxton, I guess I would keep Bills and I would sell high on Kuo. Kuo leaving would upset me.

I hope I can get some Manny dreads still

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 29, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Doubtful

Unless you get a MLB ready OF in return, what we the point. Dodgers won’t deal him for minor leaguers.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 29, 2010 2:00 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Doesn’t seem out of the question to get an MLB ready OF for him.

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just curious but who would you go after? Kemp should still be worth one blue chip prospect.

I hope I can get some Manny dreads still

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 29, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, I don’t actually want to trade Kemp and I can’t imagine the Dodgers got a haul for him that I would be happy with.

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

agreed.

I hope I can get some Manny dreads still

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 29, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’ll be a goofy trade like to the A’s for Daric Barton, Rajai Davis, and Dallas Braden. A trade that will fill multiple holes, but won’t actually make us better.

by Tripon on Aug 29, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember the rumor, maybe after 08, of Kemp for Cano

that would look nice right about now. Not saying it ever would’ve happened…

That which is in constant motion contains all possible forms.

by Pure Azure on Aug 29, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s baseball though, because in 2009 it would have been a terrible trade.

That’s why I’d rather ride it out with Kemp.

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is entirely possible this is just a down season for Kemp. Shit happens and people have bad seasons. I think it is more realistic for Kemp to return to being a 4-5 win player rather than continue what he has done this season.

by UCLADodger32 on Aug 29, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

The only thing I dispute about the WAR getting back there is that I think he’s peaked in terms of defensive value. He has to move to a corner spot.

On the other hand, he can and should be able to replicate his 2009 success at the plate.

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its possible, but I still think he can be an average center fielder. After the first two months of the year he has been perfectly fine in center. Saying that doesnt help with the crappy first two months, but you can see that its still there for him to be average. Who knows, maybe this year propels him to gt more serious in the off season about certain aspects of his game. Or, he could go the other way and just say fuck it all. Next season is huge for him, and we’ll just have to see how he plays.

by UCLADodger32 on Aug 29, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

If we trade him we would get an outfielder in return

Still think a BJ / Kemp headline deal makes sense for both teams since the Rays of Jennings a true CF ready to play, but they are losing their LF, while Upton would give us a true CF.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 29, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

You would absolutely abhor B.J Upton.

by UCLADodger32 on Aug 29, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

No

I have MBL Extra, I watch the Rays just about every night. 2nd favorite team.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 29, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like BJ, but I would think Upton is the kind of player you would hate. I wouldnt trade him for Kemp, though.

by UCLADodger32 on Aug 29, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Upton would drive this coaching staff just as nutty. He truly dogs it on the outfield, where Kemp is just not a good defensive outfielder at times.

by Tripon on Aug 29, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

We all think the coaching staff will be gone though.

At least I do.

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Torre and Bowa and probably Mattingly will be gone, which really is the triumvirate I want to see leave.

by UCLADodger32 on Aug 29, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know. Torre’s just said if Frank McCourt asked him back for one more year, he’d do it. The idea of Torre trying it again for one more year scares me, especially if Bowa comes back. The team doesn’t need an attack dog anymore.

by Tripon on Aug 29, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I dont know if i can go through another year of Torre and Bowa and Ned. Ned’s gonna be here obviously, but those other two just need to move on.

by UCLADodger32 on Aug 29, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought all was right in the TB dome after that tiff with Longoria

I hope I can get some Manny dreads still

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 29, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Funny

I would love Upton on this team. But I had him moving Kemp to RF

I hope I can get some Manny dreads still

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 29, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

wouldn't

The Rays want some money too. Kemp is making a reasonable $7+ million in 2011 but then he would be probably due for more in 2012. Obviously that is problem with dealing Loney too.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 29, 2010 2:16 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Ha. I was actually thinking the other way. They are getting the cheaper player in the deal. If he gets too expensive for their liking, they can always non-tender him.

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

This game makes me sad. No more for me.

by I'm Kind of a Big Teal on Aug 29, 2010 1:57 PM PDT reply actions  

I love how MLBTR.com is blocked by virus program. fuck that site

I hope I can get some Manny dreads still

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 29, 2010 2:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Everytime I tell Eric I will do the recap, it becomes a laugher where I wish I could bounce and enjoy my Sunday….

/I’m a whiner

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 2:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Matt Kemp only hits when it doesn’t matter.

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 2:08 PM PDT reply actions  

I’m happy with the double of course. But Loney got a hanger and he was able to uppercut it, and it still didn’t get out.

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 2:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Lone.. okay fuck it.

I hope I can get some Manny dreads still

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 29, 2010 2:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Nice of Matt and James to hit now

against a tired Hammel.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 29, 2010 2:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Andre still couldn’t hit him.

by Tripon on Aug 29, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just got back, did I miss anything?

:-/

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Aug 29, 2010 2:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Manny’s still on the bench.

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who? :-/

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Aug 29, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gasp!

But if it was Lyons I’d double-gasp!

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Aug 29, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lilly struck out 8

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Guess we can't blame manny's benching on this crap-the-bed game per se

since it was more Lilly’s (first) bad outing more than anything… but still…

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Aug 29, 2010 2:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Not that I'm giving up on a game at Coors just yet!

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by underdog on Aug 29, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Rockies fear Ausmus. Make a move to the pen.

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 2:15 PM PDT reply actions  

OT: My fantasy draft is tonight

don’t know my order of picking yet but should I take Tebow with my first pick? Or wait til 2nd?

(Tee hee.)

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by underdog on Aug 29, 2010 2:16 PM PDT reply actions  

If there were 25 rounds, he should still be available in the 25th!

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh

However, I would draft him a keeper league. Next year.

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by underdog on Aug 29, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t. I don’t think he will be much in the League. JMO

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think he will, but in 3+ years...

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by underdog on Aug 29, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

When will that big receiver be playing a big role in Denver. I think his last name is Thomas.

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Demariuyus? He'll make an impact this year

but he’s been recovering from nagging injury. Sounds like he’ll be ready for game 1 though. I see him as a 4th string WR but a threat. Would take time to develop rapport though. I also really like Eric Decker.

They will spread the wealthy among WR’s this year, from a fantasy fb perspective.

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by underdog on Aug 29, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

"as a 4th string WR"

meaning early this season that is.

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by underdog on Aug 29, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

So as soon as he has everything figured out….

He is a big target. I’d think they want him to be the man in a year or two. Can’t count on Royal and Gaffney forever.

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

By next year (or even late this year) I could see both DT and Decker starting for them. Royal works better as a slot receiver. Gaffney is underrated imho tho.

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by underdog on Aug 29, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I won't pick a QB

until I’m in the double digit rounds. Derek Anderson FTW!

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even after Leinart’s statement game last night?

:)

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe Manny’s final Dodger at bat coming up.

by Alex41592 on Aug 29, 2010 2:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Way to work the walk old man Ausmus!

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by underdog on Aug 29, 2010 2:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Manny GS as his Swan Song

That would be funny

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 2:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Who's this guy at the plate?

His hair is dread ful.

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by underdog on Aug 29, 2010 2:20 PM PDT reply actions  

That was a I Hate Manny strike call

same pitched called ball 4.

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by underdog on Aug 29, 2010 2:20 PM PDT reply actions  

After being benched for four games

I’d have a hard time mentally giving the Dodgers a good at bat here.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 29, 2010 2:21 PM PDT reply actions  

I guess Manny felt the same way

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 29, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now THAT’s how it should end.

Goodbye Manny Ramirez.

by Alex41592 on Aug 29, 2010 2:21 PM PDT reply actions  

are those Dodger fans singing, “Hey, hey, hey, goodbye!”, or Rocky fans?

by sarcastro9 on Aug 29, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

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by underdog on Aug 29, 2010 2:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Not even close on gameday

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

when I saw the delay on Gameday and the location of the pitch

I figured Manny was arguing

That which is in constant motion contains all possible forms.

by Pure Azure on Aug 29, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am listening on At Bat. As soon as Charlie said he was tossed, I looked and laughed.

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

That really was a terribly double-standard-ish call

but seriously Manny,

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by underdog on Aug 29, 2010 2:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Pinch-pinch-hitter slam?

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 2:22 PM PDT reply actions  

The look on Torre's face is priceless.

PRICELESS. Like that credit card ad.

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by underdog on Aug 29, 2010 2:22 PM PDT reply actions  

for those of us without TV

can you describe it??

That which is in constant motion contains all possible forms.

by Pure Azure on Aug 29, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

See ya Manny-thanks for making 2008 a season to remember

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 29, 2010 2:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Sure because why the fuck not?

by Alex41592 on Aug 29, 2010 2:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Game symbolizes the Dodger season

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 29, 2010 2:23 PM PDT reply actions  

if it symbolized this season...

then it would have been a called 3rd strike that was right down the middle

by jaydub2099 on Aug 29, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Vin is fucking awesome. But Manny was ejected?

I hope I can get some Manny dreads still

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 29, 2010 2:23 PM PDT reply actions  

What did he say?

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by underdog on Aug 29, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Talking about how Reed Johnson can tell his grandkids about that moment in time. Which btw I have no idea what happen. dammmmit. Change the channel, missed both Manny and then the Japanese score

I hope I can get some Manny dreads still

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 29, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can't even get mad at Manny.

He is a simple man with simple wants.

by Tripon on Aug 29, 2010 2:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Anything other than the Playoffs is a fail. Were not the Giants, we shouldnt base our season off having a better record than our rival.

I hope I can get some Manny dreads still

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 29, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agree with that

That’s how Giants fans look at things. “How did the Dodgers do?” Last year it was “Yay they didn’t make the World Series!” It’s like, your own team crapped the bed, who cares what this other team did? (Still, I admit to vindicitively rooting against Giants all the time, regardless.)

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by underdog on Aug 29, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dodgers

Have finished ahead of Giants 5 out of the last 6 years so I think one year is okay.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 29, 2010 2:28 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

success and failure

Success:

WS champion
NL champion
NL West champion
Wild card
Finish ahead of Giants
Finish behind Giants but knock them out of playoffs

Neutral:
Win season series against Giants, finish behind

Fail:
Anything else

by jaydub2099 on Aug 29, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or another way

A five star franchise wants to be in the world series. A four star franchise wants to make the postseason. A three star franchise wants to beat their rival, and a two star franchise just wants to finish above .500

by Josie Becker on Aug 29, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

So a one star franchise would be the.. Pirates?

I hope I can get some Manny dreads still

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 29, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Orioles, Pirates….I believe their goals are all at the AAA level

by Josie Becker on Aug 29, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

why not embrace the five hundredness of this rag tag bunch?
This is good as they are …

by 68elcamino427 on Aug 29, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Meanwhile in Anaheim

The Orioles have had an E # of 1 all weekend, and are currently in position to sweep the Angels. And to think, we’ve been talking about a Freeway Series for the World Series the past two years

by Josie Becker on Aug 29, 2010 2:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Japan trying to win the LLWS. Up 3 in the 6th.

by Alex41592 on Aug 29, 2010 2:30 PM PDT reply actions  

YES

f*ck you shane victorino

by matthewmafa on Aug 29, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

This umpire has had a good strike zone. couple bad calls but hes been good.

I hope I can get some Manny dreads still

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 29, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

This umpire has had a good strike zone. couple bad calls but hes been good.

I hope I can get some Manny dreads still

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 29, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

OT

Is there a way to block all comments from a poster?

by soccerman8 on Aug 29, 2010 2:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Sorry dude. I’ll be quiet from now on.

{goes to room and slams the door}

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like soccer!

is it my lack of showering today?

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by underdog on Aug 29, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can smell you through my ethernet!

I hope I can get some Manny dreads still

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 29, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, a moderator can do it, yes.

You can email me if there is an issue.

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

who do u wanna block??

by matthewmafa on Aug 29, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

you talk’in to me???

by 68elcamino427 on Aug 29, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Argued balls and strikes

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

heh

 … or Manny’s way of giving it back to Torre?

by 68elcamino427 on Aug 29, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

“This is just my dumb move. … There’s no reason I can give you that makes sense. A lot of what I do is a feel thing.”

by Little Blue Bicycle on Aug 29, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

{sticks hand in pants}

by 68elcamino427 on Aug 29, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

(Leans on rail, dreams of Jeter).

by Little Blue Bicycle on Aug 29, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Perhaps because Torre has been telling the media the Dodgers have a better chance of winning with Podsednick starting in place of Manny?

by 68elcamino427 on Aug 29, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

wtf???

he got ejected on the first pitch of the PA???

by matthewmafa on Aug 29, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

thanks

Then RJ grounds into an inning ending double play in the same at bat. It all seems to be so fitting on so many levels. Oh well.

by sarcastro9 on Aug 29, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Strike 1 call was the same pitch that was ball 4 in previous at bat

he said something to the ump. got tossed. Or what Tripon said.

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by underdog on Aug 29, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Complained

About a strike call.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 29, 2010 2:36 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

This little lefty for Japan is just painting right now. dudes a boss

by UCLADodger32 on Aug 29, 2010 2:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Damn, he ripped that one, too.

Not that I er, care, yeah.

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by underdog on Aug 29, 2010 2:38 PM PDT reply actions  

#
# Adam ibleedbloo
  
70 years later, Japan finally finishes off Hawaii. #toosoon?

by Tripon on Aug 29, 2010 2:40 PM PDT reply actions  

That’s pretty classy

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's tasteless and terrible

and yet I still chuckled.

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by underdog on Aug 29, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

What if the LLWS was played in December?

Pele breathes words of comfort, Seena just hides her eyes
Policeman taps his shades, Is that a chevy 69?

by G.Scott on Aug 29, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even more tasteless...

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by underdog on Aug 29, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Phillies are up 3-0 in the 7th.

by Alex41592 on Aug 29, 2010 2:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Dylan Hernandez
RT @VladimirShpunt Joe Torre thinking Podsednik brings energy to lineup? I thinking this is stupid. Joe Torre knows nothings about energy.

by Tripon on Aug 29, 2010 2:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Horse fertilizer everywhere

by 68elcamino427 on Aug 29, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hooray for Kenley Jansen!

by 68elcamino427 on Aug 29, 2010 2:53 PM PDT reply actions  

7 runs
6 outs
No Problem?

by 68elcamino427 on Aug 29, 2010 2:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Help me Matt Belisle you’re our only hope.

by Alex41592 on Aug 29, 2010 2:57 PM PDT reply actions  

at least it wasn’t Kemp

by 68elcamino427 on Aug 29, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Blake caught between 2nd and 3rd in a rundwon again this series …

by 68elcamino427 on Aug 29, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

He screwed up but he stayed in it long enough to where it didn’t matter.

by Alex41592 on Aug 29, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Torre can argue that Blake was interfered with by Belisle

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 2:59 PM PDT reply actions  

WWTWD?

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by underdog on Aug 29, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Torre moved much faster defending Blake than he did with Manny. It was astonishing.

by Tripon on Aug 29, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

not surprising...I don't think he can stand the guy anymore

That which is in constant motion contains all possible forms.

by Pure Azure on Aug 29, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

grit time

That which is in constant motion contains all possible forms.

by Pure Azure on Aug 29, 2010 3:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Broken Finger Scores!
refuse to lose …

by 68elcamino427 on Aug 29, 2010 3:04 PM PDT reply actions  

D’Backs rallying. 5-4 Giants Top 7.

by Alex41592 on Aug 29, 2010 3:06 PM PDT reply actions  

OT

I wish we could assign “ringtones” to each poster!

I would make Alex’s the update sound on BBTN!

:)

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 3:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Mine would stay what it reall is

which is the Good the Bad and the Ugly theme.

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by underdog on Aug 29, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sweet, now our big boppers are coming up! Oh wait...

That which is in constant motion contains all possible forms.

by Pure Azure on Aug 29, 2010 3:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Make it interesting riot

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 3:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Wow. They’re back in the game.

by Alex41592 on Aug 29, 2010 3:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Therioted!

Game not over!

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by underdog on Aug 29, 2010 3:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh my goodness Andre.

by Alex41592 on Aug 29, 2010 3:10 PM PDT reply actions  

RUBBYYY De la ROSA

another early game for chatanooga….

7 IP 7 H 3 R 3 ER 2 BB 6 K

12 GO 2 FO

by matthewmafa on Aug 29, 2010 3:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Just hang one of those curve balls.

by Alex41592 on Aug 29, 2010 3:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Worst game of the season for Ethier.

by Alex41592 on Aug 29, 2010 3:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah 4Ks isn't good

Hopefully Kemp will pick him up.

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

not picking it up vs. the lefties too good today …

by 68elcamino427 on Aug 29, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s one of the worse AB’s I’ve seen from him. Plus he gets the golden sombrero, so he’s got that going for him.

by KellyStephen on Aug 29, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

all 3 swings were at pitches out of the zone per Gameday, blech

That which is in constant motion contains all possible forms.

by Pure Azure on Aug 29, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

can’t hit it if ya can’t see it?

by 68elcamino427 on Aug 29, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow. thats terrible.

I hope I can get some Manny dreads still

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 29, 2010 3:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Bison had the swing shortened up a bit on his last ab
let’s see if he can do it again …

by 68elcamino427 on Aug 29, 2010 3:15 PM PDT reply actions  

First Golden Sombrero of Ethier’s career.

by Alex41592 on Aug 29, 2010 3:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Cmon Kemp………

Fuckin PLEASE

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 3:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh the frustration when nobody can hit Betancourt. Come on!

by Alex41592 on Aug 29, 2010 3:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Well that'll do

Bison, that’ll do.

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by underdog on Aug 29, 2010 3:17 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm not very good at goodbye's but..

that’ll do pig

Pele breathes words of comfort, Seena just hides her eyes
Policeman taps his shades, Is that a chevy 69?

by G.Scott on Aug 29, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

not based on who's up next, though

That which is in constant motion contains all possible forms.

by Pure Azure on Aug 29, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cheat on this fastball and please hit it far!

by Alex41592 on Aug 29, 2010 3:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Jim Loney

you can be such a fuckin hero here.

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 3:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Come on Road Loney!

I'm nobody's fool, least of all yours

by BoulderDodger on Aug 29, 2010 3:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Just a nothing slider.

by Alex41592 on Aug 29, 2010 3:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Bleh

Weird double or triple pump there but didn’t matter.

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by underdog on Aug 29, 2010 3:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Doh well.

I hope I can get some Manny dreads still

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 29, 2010 3:20 PM PDT reply actions  

ground ball LONEy

 Weak ass grounder after weak ass grounder on hitters counts….

WEAK

by matthewmafa on Aug 29, 2010 3:20 PM PDT reply actions  

pitcher’s got an idea …

by 68elcamino427 on Aug 29, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah because the other 7 hitters are fucking mashing every pitch

I hope I can get some Manny dreads still

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 29, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

3 and 1. Swing at crap.

by Alex41592 on Aug 29, 2010 3:21 PM PDT reply actions  

good low pitch

loney cant freaking hit pitches into the air…

by matthewmafa on Aug 29, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wish he’d looked at that one too. Barely a strike. Oh Well. Gonna make the comeback in the 9th even sweeter.

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 3:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Now the poll results look about right.

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 3:22 PM PDT reply actions  

I miss Milwaukee.

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by underdog on Aug 29, 2010 3:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Where does it go, the good Lord only knows
Seems like it was just the other day
I was down at Green Gables, hawking them tables
And generally blowing all of my hard earned pay
Piano rolled blues, danced holes in my shoes
There weren’t another way to be
For loveable losers, no account boozers
And honky tonk heros like me

Waylon Jennings

by 68elcamino427 on Aug 29, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Have to call that an error right?

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 3:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Sounds like it. Monday said it was a good throw.

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hard to say. Dotel looked late to break off the mound, but Ronnie could have tossed it a little bit better.

by Michael White on Aug 29, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously?

Wow, pretty sad if he can’t make a team with Jake Delhomme as its starter…

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Aug 29, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

really??

That which is in constant motion contains all possible forms.

by Pure Azure on Aug 29, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brad Ausmus is awesoke

by keithc13 on Aug 29, 2010 3:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Dotel it on the Mountain

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Aug 29, 2010 3:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Fowler is very fast... But he's faster thna Shaq??

Louise Bourgoin: The hottest French actress I've ever seen <3

by Jojo93160 on Aug 29, 2010 3:31 PM PDT reply actions  

To paraphase Al Pacino in Godfather III:

 just when I thought they were in… the Dodgers pull me back out!

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Aug 29, 2010 3:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Turn out the lights…the party’s over…

Dodgers gotta win 4 or 5 of the next 6 to have any shot.

by KellyStephen on Aug 29, 2010 3:40 PM PDT reply actions  

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Kuroda $2,000,000 deferred
Garland $1,500,000 option buyout
Blake $1,250,000 option buyout
DFA 66 MacDougal $650,000

Totals
$115,942,869

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Current 40-man roster count: 42
(incl. De La Rosa & Hawksworth)

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Manager

Eric___ned___reporters_2011_trade_deadline_small Eric Stephen

Editors

100_1427_small Phil Gurnee

Dgy_small David Young

Hanauma_bay_small Chad Moriyama

2501_small Michael White

Raptors_small Brandon Lennox

Img_0103_small CraigMinami