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Kuroda Magnificent On The Mound And At The Plate, Dodgers Win, 3-0

Japan beats Hawaii in the Little League World Series, then Shane Victorino exacts revenge by breaking up Hiroki Kuroda's no-hitter.

The Dodgers officially severed ties with Manny Ramirez today, the same day the McCourt divorce trial began, and to top it all off had to stomach facing Roy Halladay tonight at Dodger Stadium. However, Hiroki Kuroda washed away the negativity with an absolute gem, taking a no-hitter into the eighth inning, and beat the Phillies, 3-0 in the opener of a three-game series.

Melissa Joan Hart thew out the first pitch, but it was Kuroda cast his spell on the Phillies tonight, allowing just four baserunners in his 7 2/3 innings. He hit Jayson Werth in the second inning, but erased him on a double play. Carlos Ruiz walked in the sixth, and Werth walked in the eighth, then Shane Victorino broke up the no-hitter with one out in the eighth inning, lining a single to right field.

It was the deepest a Dodger has taken a no-hitter this season, surpassing Vicente Padilla, who flummoxed the Padres through 6 1/3 innings on August 4. Kuroda's previous flirtation with a no-hitter was on July 7, 2008, when he had a perfect game through seven innings against Atlanta, only to have Mark Teixeira break it up with a leadoff double in the eighth inning.

The last Dodger no-hitter remains Hideo Nomo's masterpiece in Coors Field on September 17, 1996.

Kuroda even chipped in at the plate tonight, snapping his 0-for-45 streak with a single in the bottom of the seventh inning. It was one of 10 hits the Dodgers got off Roy Halladay, who allowed three runs in his seven innings.

Local product Rod Barajas, in his first home game as a Dodger, hit a solo home run in the fifth to push the lead to 3-0. It was the third home run and fifth extra-base hit for Barajas in just five games for the new Dodger catcher. Every interview I have seen with Barajas, including after the game tonight, Barajas seems ridiculously happy to be a Dodger, and that's pretty cool.

Hong-Chih Kuo threw one pitch in the eighth to retire pinch hitter Mike Sweeney, then set the Phillies down in order in the ninth to earn his seventh save.

Carlos Monasterios faces Kyle Kendrick tomorrow night.

WP - Hiroki Kuroda (10-11):  7 2/3, 1 hit, 2 walks, 7 strikeouts

LP - Roy Halladay (16-10):  7 IP, 10 hits, 3 runs, 1 walk, 4 strikeouts

Sv - Hong-Chih Kuo (7):  4 up, 4 down

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aside from the obvious enjoyment we get from watching the Giants potentially lose

It also makes sense tactically, as they’re a) higher up in the standings than the Rockies, b) we have more games left with the Rockies, anyway.

But yeah…what you said. :)

by sarcastro9 on Aug 30, 2010 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

You kick ass Kuroda, I hope you are back next year

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 30, 2010 9:48 PM PDT reply actions  

I second that

I would love to have Kuroda back year. He’s put up good numbers in his time here and he takes his job very seriously. Though it all comes down to whether he wants to stay in the MLB and whether the Dodgers extend to him a lucrative contract or not. Hopefully, the front office will pull through and retain Kuroda.

by David G. on Aug 31, 2010 12:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sickels on Cavazos-Galvez
**Dodgers prospect Brian Cavazos-Galvez put up some excellent numbers last year at the University of New Mexico, hitting .392/.439/.737 in 54 games, with 15 homers and 17 steals. He has decent tools, too, with more athleticism than is typical for a guy listed at 6-0, 215. He has a strong throwing arm (his dad Balvino was a major league pitcher). But he played his college ball at a thin air bandbox, and scouts weren’t sure how his skills would translate into pro ball, so he fell to the 12th round in the draft. So far, his skills are translating very well: .316/.342/.510 in the Midwest League this year, with 40 doubles, 15 homers, and 42 steals in 55 attempts. He is very aggressive at the plate and has drawn just 12 walks, however he makes contact and has fanned just 58 times in 471 at-bats, an impressive number considering how much pop he’s shown in a league that favors pitching. The main negatives here are his age (23) and the low walk rate, but his ability to make contact and drive the ball is notable and augers well for higher levels. Buzz among Midwest League sources is similar to what it was in college: he’s got some tools, and his performance has been impressive, but there’s still a bit of skepticism until we see him at higher levels.

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2010/8/30/1659089/minor-league-notes-august-30-2010

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 30, 2010 9:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Thats a ton of steals.
58ks to 12bbs aint going to getit done though.

by Joey Joe on Aug 30, 2010 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Huff hits to the track and at the wall. Caught.

by Alex41592 on Aug 30, 2010 9:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Flyball. . . . . . . . . . . caught

"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "

by K3vo on Aug 30, 2010 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I bet he’s acting like a little bitch in the dugout right now too.

by Bakofan on Aug 30, 2010 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

great catch by Huston Street to end the game.

by sarcastro9 on Aug 30, 2010 9:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Uh…and Dodgers won. Duh!

by KellyStephen on Aug 30, 2010 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Read the game recap!

by Alex41592 on Aug 30, 2010 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn…I thought Phil wrote it.

by KellyStephen on Aug 30, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does this mean we’re back to being relevant again?

by Bakofan on Aug 30, 2010 10:00 PM PDT reply actions  

If the season were 175 games, sure.

by Joey Joe on Aug 30, 2010 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Talk to me after a 6-0 homestand!

by Eric Stephen on Aug 30, 2010 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

for several reasons

On paper, this was the toughest game of the six. On paper.

by sarcastro9 on Aug 30, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL Topes

Losing 20-9… Freaking PCL…

"What's your name?" "Fuck you, that's my name"

by angelofdeath on Aug 30, 2010 10:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Good night all…great win tonight…Catch you manana.

by KellyStephen on Aug 30, 2010 10:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Aroldis Chapman is coming up tomorrow so that he’ll be eligible for the Reds playoff roster.

by Joey Joe on Aug 30, 2010 10:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Is Trayvon coming up tomorrow?

So hes, y’know, eligible for the post season? :)

by EephusBlue on Aug 30, 2010 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Eligible for the AFL…

"What's your name?" "Fuck you, that's my name"

by angelofdeath on Aug 30, 2010 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

He could have been eligible anyway, just by being in the organization, but they would have had to DL someone.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 30, 2010 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is that the K-Rod rule?

by Joey Joe on Aug 30, 2010 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep

just have to be in the organization on August 31, not even on the 40-man.

But if you aren’t on the active roster or DL on August 31, someone else would have to go on the DL in order to be added to the postseason roster.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 30, 2010 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

For a career back up catcher

I cannot believe any other player in MLB today had a more memorable first game in his hometown park, starting for his hometown team, he hits a HR off a one of the best pitchers in the game and almost catches a no-hitter.

I am sure Barajas had several friends and family members at the game tonight and tonight he probably is as happy as ever been as MLB player.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 30, 2010 10:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah he's really ingratiated himself to Dodger fans quickly

being from LA area helps too!

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Aug 30, 2010 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was good moment for him, but its not like he’d never played in Dodger Stadium before or hit a homer there before.

by Joey Joe on Aug 30, 2010 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have to laugh

at a lot of your comments sometimes.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 30, 2010 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

There's a difference between hitting a home run in 2002

as a Diamond Back against Terry Muhollland and then coming home as a journeyman veteran back up and hitting home run in your first game as a Dodger against Roy Halladay.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 30, 2010 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

But not for the team he grew up rooting for

There’s a difference, you know.

Anyway, night all.

Can’t believe I missed Hiro’s first hit of the year!

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Aug 30, 2010 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know how good a story this is

I am positive by Sunday, Plaschke will write a column blasting Manny and maybe some other guys while espousing the virtues of Barajas

by bhsportsguy on Aug 30, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

See today’s LATimes. I won’t read the article (haven’t read him in years), but the headline says it all (“Manny Ramirez was gone long before this”). I’d send the link but I don’t want to encourage anyone else reading that idiot.

by KellyStephen on Aug 31, 2010 7:18 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Also, someone here must've updated his

Wikipedia page tonight!

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Aug 30, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's just wrong in so many ways

Now I gotta figure out how to put DONG in there…

"What's your name?" "Fuck you, that's my name"

by angelofdeath on Aug 30, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Podsednikwood sounds better

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Aug 31, 2010 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

You guys really should listen to me more

time to go take two more

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 30, 2010 10:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Here's what I don't get about the current Manny bashing in the mainstream media.

For years, people say the Dodgers were foolish, and should trade him to an AL team so he can DH. The Dodgers do that, and its Manny fault for forcing the Dodgers to trade him to an AL team so he can DH.

by Tripon on Aug 30, 2010 10:55 PM PDT reply actions  

The Mainstream media has no accountability

and simply scream about whatever they want to scream about whenever they want. They are dying a far too slow death.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 30, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

For years, people say the Dodgers were foolish, and should trade him to an AL team so he can DH

Who were these people? That bandwagon started last winter, who was saying such a thing for “years”? And what is your definition of “years”?

by meercatjohn on Aug 31, 2010 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

One possible reason UZR hates the Dodgers defense.
IIRC, UZR doesn’t include infield popups or IF line drives

Really? UZR must hate covering a Clayton Kershaw game.

by Tripon on Aug 30, 2010 10:57 PM PDT reply actions  

finally got internet in my house in Dallas!

whats been going on here, are we still as gloomy as we were a week ago or is there still a sliver of hop? All i’ve really glanced at for a week is text updates with scores : (

William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.

by Ollie on Aug 30, 2010 11:00 PM PDT reply actions  

I have been hopping around all night, thanks to Hiroki and Rod!

by Eric Stephen on Aug 30, 2010 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

We where excited going into the rockie series

then we fucked it up. Now we are vaguley maybe a little excited cause if we sweep the phillies and win the series against the Gnats we are kind of sort of back in it! Then we can go beat the rockies again! I’m so sort of excited!

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 30, 2010 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

We are always a mere three sweeps away from taking this mug.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 30, 2010 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Heh I'm always guilty of losing all hope, then getting my hope up over and over

I must have turned the game where furcal made like 80 errors against the phillies on and off like 5 times.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 30, 2010 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha

I called the season over a month ago, and I still get excited and crushed on wins and losses. I got a little tingly after Friday’s win; I’m not gonna lie!

by Eric Stephen on Aug 30, 2010 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

rec'd for an easy task!

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 31, 2010 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

haha well thats quite positive indeed

I cant wait to have gameday now at least!

William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.

by Ollie on Aug 30, 2010 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

you are a scholar and a gentleman

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 30, 2010 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

2010 payroll didn't get changed much at all

but as of right now the rough estimates for the next two years are:

2011: $87.4m
2012: $87.2m

Lots of variables in play though.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 30, 2010 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wonder how much of this was because the Dodgers bent Kevin Williams backwards last year?

If true, the only real effect of the ejection was to further strengthen White Sox GM Kenny Williams’ perception that the Dodgers had to let Manny go. Colletti said on Monday that he tried to get talent for Ramirez. He sought a Sox “B” prospect for $1.5 million. No dice. Then he tried to get a lesser prospect for $1 million, and another for $500,000. Nothing.

http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2010/08/31/manny-a-quitter-this-time-maybe-not/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

by Tripon on Aug 30, 2010 11:09 PM PDT reply actions  

The idea of us trying "buy" prospects

is foreign to me

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 30, 2010 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Colletti said the same thing on the pregame show, including the amounts, which is unusual to be so on-the-record about the specifics of such a thing.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 30, 2010 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think he wanted to show that he tried to get value for Manny.

Although if he really wanted to do that, he would have traded him in July since you can trade players on the DL.

by Tripon on Aug 30, 2010 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

It takes two to tango.

by Michael White on Aug 31, 2010 7:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know it's never a good thing to mention Plashke around here

But this is interesting, considering it was coming from someone on the team.

""Man ain’t the same since he’s been off his medicine," one of the Dodgers told me late last season."

I wonder which Dodger may have said that? Who talks like that? I have my suspicions. Obviously we’ll never know. But I’d guess it might be someone who’s not on the team this year. Someone who speaks his mind. Maybe someone who would’ve been feeling kind of bitter. And someone NOT named Juan Pierre.

by sarcastro9 on Aug 30, 2010 11:24 PM PDT reply actions  

<Jive ass dude don’t got no brains anyhow! Hmmph! /blockquote>

"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "

by K3vo on Aug 31, 2010 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm thinking Bowa, Torre, or Schaefer

You know the elderly are, always talking about their meds.

"There’s no reason I can give you that makes sense. A lot of what I do is a feel thing."

by Little Blue Bicycle on Aug 31, 2010 5:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, he really should!

That is, whomever this anonymous second baseman…errr, I mean person may be.

by sarcastro9 on Aug 30, 2010 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck Plashke

Fuck Ruiz
And
Fuck the Giants
Hudson’s not worth the effort

by 68elcamino427 on Aug 30, 2010 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

non-tender...

does that mean he isn’t offered a contract and becomes a FA? I’m in the dark on the term, I’ve heard it bounced around quite a bit…

That which is in constant motion contains all possible forms.

by Pure Azure on Aug 31, 2010 1:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

who needs catching prospects

when you have the great Rod Barajas!

by npurcell on Aug 31, 2010 7:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe I'm in the minority here but I really wouldn't mind a

Russell Martin + Barajas (ok I’m not in the minority on that score) combination at catcher next year. That really would be fine by me.

Getting Flowers would’ve been nice, tho.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Aug 31, 2010 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Something like this would be fine with me

As long as Martin is resigned for a cheaper deal after being non-tendered. He shouldn’t get any more than $2 – $3 million guaranteed.

by BFDC on Aug 31, 2010 7:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Have to non-tender Martin first and work out a cheaper deal.

by Michael White on Aug 31, 2010 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

If Martin is non - tendered

I think he is gone. Someone will give him a contract that we won’t want to match. JMO

by meercatjohn on Aug 31, 2010 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Only way to work it

is the “pre-tender” deal, where Kim Ng works out a 2-year deal before the tender deadline with the threat of non-tender looming.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 31, 2010 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

This seems pretty likely.

by BFDC on Aug 31, 2010 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree. With the injury I think Martin has to take it. Martin has to have a pretty sober idea of his value right now, he hasn’t hit in 2 years and he’s coming off of a serious injury.

by Michael White on Aug 31, 2010 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why do you think this?

What comps are out there that support him getting a high salary? Especially after the injury?

by BFDC on Aug 31, 2010 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

 I didn’t say “high salary” I said a contract that we wont want to match. Don’t put words in my mouth.

by meercatjohn on Aug 31, 2010 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fine

My bad. What kind of contract do you think he would be offered that we wouldn’t want to match?

As Michael stated above, he hasn’t hit for two years and is coming off a serious injury. Its hard for me to imagine anyone offering much of a contract, other than an incentive-laden one.

by BFDC on Aug 31, 2010 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

If you have to choose between Rod Barajas and Russ, Russ gonna get paid.

by regfairfield on Aug 31, 2010 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

You may be right

I stated my opinion, we don’t even know at this point if he’s even going to have surgery. Owners have shocked me every year with the money they pay certain players, so when it comes to contracts I’ll always assume someone is going to get more then I would have expected. Especially catchers in a world where they need Pudge because of scarcity.

by meercatjohn on Aug 31, 2010 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agree with you both on the cheaper deal...

And don’t think he has much leverage right now. But that will be interesting…

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Aug 31, 2010 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, that’s exactly what it means.

by Michael White on Aug 31, 2010 7:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kuroda question...

hate to be a downer here on such a great night, but in strategic-thinking mode — if HK cleared waivers, could we see a deal tomorrow? I have to think if the Yanks (or any contender with pitching needs) saw what he did and how he owns the Phillies, they’d give up a nice package for him. He prob wasn’t placed on waivers though, haven’t heard anything. If not, sweep the fucking Phils anyway!!

oh yeah, FUCK CARLOS RUIZ!

That which is in constant motion contains all possible forms.

by Pure Azure on Aug 31, 2010 2:03 AM PDT reply actions  

Dodger talk

According to Dodger Talk last night, Josh said that Ned was doubtful anything would happen tomorrow. He didn’t rule out something in September if appropriate. Obviously Kuroda would have to have cleared waivers and then they could work out a trade. Doubt Kuroda will be moved.

by wineracquet on Aug 31, 2010 4:00 AM PDT reply actions  

Great quote from Dodgers Divorce

Perhaps the most surreal aspect of the litigation was something we’ve seen before: the absurd positions each side needs to take. Frank purchased the Dodgers “with zero experience [and] limited liquidity,” one attorney said. Problem: that was Frank’s attorney.

by BFDC on Aug 31, 2010 7:29 AM PDT reply actions  

I wonder if Frank put that in whatever papers you have to file with the league in order to get a team.

“To Whom it May Concern:
I’m a guy with no experience and limited liquidity. I’m writing because I would like to own one of the most storied franchises in Major League history in the second largest market in the country….”

by prosellis on Aug 31, 2010 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kuroda may be my favorite Dodger

shame about the hit but at least it wasn’t cheap.

I don’t have any worries when Kuo comes in. Those of you who are hoping that Broxton slides back into the closer role on a permanent basis, I hope your still waiting by the end of the year. I like the idea of mixing and matching Kuo/Broxton/Dotel, and I think the Dodger coaches are doing a great job with the bullpen at the moment.

by meercatjohn on Aug 31, 2010 7:59 AM PDT reply actions  

Me too

I was a little irked there were a few people on DT last night ripping Torre’s bullpen/pitching management. The timing seemed shitty. after Kuroda lost the no hitter and seemed to tire, who else would you want coming in but Kuo? And the mix and match pen seems to have worked out well the last week+. Torre’s overall pitching management can be questioned, over time, but why rip him then? Anyway, I could think of teams with no options that good and they have 3 pretty good ones including 1 great one.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Aug 31, 2010 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Okay two great ones and one of those is Kuo-some

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by underdog on Aug 31, 2010 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is the other great one supposed to be Broxton?

15.1 IP, 11K, 12 BB, 16 H, 12 ER aint great in my book.

by Sean P. on Aug 31, 2010 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sure he has struggled

but he’s been better lately. So what would you bet on? That he going to continue to struggle or go back to being the Broxton he’s been for 95% of his career? Based on what I’ve seen lately I’m betting on the latter.

by meercatjohn on Aug 31, 2010 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't see

‘struggling less’ as all that close to ‘great’.

But that’s just me.

by Sean P. on Aug 31, 2010 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Since Broxton has been demoted (after the Phillies 10-9 game), he has pitched 7 1/3 innings, so we don’t have a large sample, but…

1 BB / 6 K
7 hits
3 runs
3.68 ERA
1.97 FIP

by Eric Stephen on Aug 31, 2010 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Where is SIERRA and xFIP:)

Didn’t most of the damage come in that one game where he gave up the two run dinger. Six appearances, one bad outing. Not Broxton like yet, but he’s getting back there.

by meercatjohn on Aug 31, 2010 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

he hasn’t given up a homer yet (since Pat Burrell). Only extra base hit was a double Friday in Colorado.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 31, 2010 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow, I thought he had in the Reds game

instead he was just tatooed. So no dinger but still just the one bad game in that stretch.

by meercatjohn on Aug 31, 2010 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also, just think if Podsednik caught that foul ball rather than have it hit him in the damn bicep :)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 31, 2010 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

xFip is lame

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 31, 2010 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

are the fly balls

infield pop ups or normal outfield fly balls?

those make a difference that xfip does not account for.

by npurcell on Aug 31, 2010 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dude I already covered that

when I said its lame. Gawd

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 31, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Apparently tERA covers infield flies. Fangraphs has this on individual player’s pages, just not in the leaders portion of the site.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 31, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Where does one find a SIERRA leaderboard?

by Xeifrank on Aug 31, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree. I think Torre stumbled into the current usage pattern, but I love it. Using a combo of those 2-3 guys as early as the 7th, based on matchups, is outstanding.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 31, 2010 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve got no problem with the current closer arrangement either. I’m a firm believer that in a lot of games who you bring in to stop a rally in the 7th is just as (if not more) important as who you bring in to shut the door. Getting rid of the stigma surrounding how one uses a closer is fantastic in my book. 2 on 2 out w/a lefty coming up in the 7th? Bring in Kuo. A righty? Bring in Dotel or Broxton. Then let them start the 8th and go from there.

I may be getting close to you on Kuroda too. I love this quote from the Times today:

I knew the fans wanted it and I knew my teammates wanted it, so I felt that I betrayed a lot of my fans and my teammates.

What a great attitude. But I certainly didn’t feel betrayed. Great game.

by KellyStephen on Aug 31, 2010 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Its nice to see a team not be committed to the “my best guy throws the 9th no matter what” mentality. How awesome would it be if Sherrill and Belisario were also on their games right now. You could be super creative with five really good arms to finish your games.

Hell, if you had that bullpen performing well, you could start Monasterios tonight….

by prosellis on Aug 31, 2010 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Probably just misguided perception

but I’ve got this feeling the purse strings are being loosened. Maybe just maybe the Dodgers will sign Kuroda and Lilly to two year deals, while going with cheaper but just as productive options at 1st/C.

In the end Boom Boom Betemit might be a better player then James Loney. Still think he’d be a great match for us in 2011. Play 3rd against RHP, putting Blake in super utility role, Blake against LHP. I think Blake could still rake LHP with the added rest close to what he did in 2009. It gives us a platoon capable of an .850 OPS while giving some serious bench power for whoever is not starting.

Haven’t seen much Theriot bashing lately. His defense has been as impressive as expected. So weird to have two Ecksteins making up our middle infield. I’m very comfortable with Furcal/Theriot/Carroll as our MI, with DeJesus/Gordon continuing to percolate.

I’d probably sign Coco Crisp to be our CF, moving Andre to LF, and Kemp to RF, knowing Trayvon is about a year away from doing what Coco can do. A’s have a 500,000 buy out which I think they will exercise since they have so many outfielders. Coco should be relatively cheap because of his injury history and might take a one year deal. He continues to be an above average defensive CF, with just enough pop. . I may be mis reading the market, maybe he’ll get a great offer from someone else. Or maybe the A’s exercise their option.

by meercatjohn on Aug 31, 2010 8:22 AM PDT reply actions  

I would like to agree with you, but I think what’s going on in court will determine the purse strings. I just hope it’s a quick case, because if we go into December with this still hanging over our heads I can’t see them taking a proactive approach on any signings.

I also hope that some of the bullshit spending that has come out in this case causes Frank to re-assess how he manages the team’s finances going forward. He’s seen the team’s value grow quite a bit since he bought them. Imagine what would happen to their value if they won a WS.

Never been much of a Coco fan, but I like him better than Pods. Kemp and Ethier have to rebound, however, or it’s not going to matter who we get for the 3rd spot.

by KellyStephen on Aug 31, 2010 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

In the end

If Loney is still our 1st baseman, Loney and Kemp need to revisit 2007, while Andre learns how to hit without Manny if this team is to have any World Championship aspirations.

by meercatjohn on Aug 31, 2010 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agree. I think I’m a bit higher on Loney than most folks, but there’s definitely still some offensive improvement needed there. I just have more faith in him to do it than most others.

by KellyStephen on Aug 31, 2010 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

My faith is draining away with each

month of sub performance. When I gave my optimistic view this spring it was predicated on so many 1st baseman having career years at age 26 who had garnered as many at bats as Loney. With Loney actually regressing even further instead of stepping up his game, my faith is pretty much gone that he’ll develop. At this point he may simply be what he is, and that is not enough for this offense or the contract he’ll probably garner.

I’m still hopeful but that hope is now simply hope and nothing else.

by meercatjohn on Aug 31, 2010 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

In 2008, I thought Loney was going to be the next Will Clark. Now, I guess hoping for… Wally Joyner?

by prosellis on Aug 31, 2010 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hah! I remember he had a really good first few years with the Angels, but I for some reason thought he fell off a cliff after that. The thing I remember most was that he had this horrible habit of running his tongue around his lips so that there was always this horrible looking red ring around his mouth.

by prosellis on Aug 31, 2010 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

You aren't going to want to read

what I’m going to write about him this week.

I was planning to have something up today, but that’s not gonna happen. Might have to be Thursday now with the off day.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 31, 2010 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m looking forward to it.

by Michael White on Aug 31, 2010 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe you should wait untl Oct 1st

you might not want to look silly after he posts a 1.200 OPS in Sept:)

by meercatjohn on Aug 31, 2010 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

I love loney

He really looked up until the all star break like he might put it together, but since then its been baaaaaaaaaaaaad. I want to believe.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 31, 2010 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Having Sands

gives the Dodgers flexibility. They can go for a 1b and put Sands in LF or vice versa.

by npurcell on Aug 31, 2010 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

As much as I’d like to see him in the majors, I don’t think there’s any chance to see him at all before September in 2011.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 31, 2010 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think he’s talking about more in terms of if the Dodgers wanted to sign someone to a deal longer than 1 year.

by BFDC on Aug 31, 2010 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm all for giving a shot to Betemit at 1B or 3B (likely 1B)

I want to keep the pitching staff mostly in tact, even if that means keeping Pods in LF, Carroll at 2B (or Theriot if he’s not too expensive, though if he is maybe we bring up De Jesus), Barajas and Ausmus/Newcomer/Ellis at catcher, and whoever else at 1B.

It may just be a repeat of this season, but if we signed one big type A free agent like Crawford or Werth or Dunn, the we will still have to skimp on the rest of the positions we need to fill as well.

I guess it all depends on how much Lilly and Kuroda will want.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 31, 2010 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fun game last night

one tidbit: Rod Barajas’ entrance music is Biggie’s “Going Back to Cali”

by LA Taco on Aug 31, 2010 8:44 AM PDT reply actions  

But then

i’ve always liked the big slow power hitting catchers who either hit a home run or stay off the bases.

by meercatjohn on Aug 31, 2010 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Benji Molina must have been your favorite player ever.

by prosellis on Aug 31, 2010 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Player HR OBP RBI OPS Pos
Lance Parrish 324 .313 1070 .753 *2D/397
Benito Santiago 217 .307 920 .722 *2/37D
Todd Hundley 202 .320 599 .763 *2/7D
Bengie Molina 144 .307 705 .719 *2/D
Jody Davis 127 .307 490 .710 *2/3
Darrin Fletcher 124 .318 583 .740 *2/D
Terry Kennedy 113 .314 628 .699 *2/73
Sandy Alomar 112 .309 588 .716 *2/D3
Tony Pena 107 .309 708 .673 *2/395
Bob Boone 105 .315 826 .661 *2/357
Joe Oliver 102 .299 476 .690 *2/3D79
Steve Yeager 102 .298 410 .653 *2
Michael Barrett 98 .320 424 .742 *25/36D
Rick Dempsey 96 .319 471 .666 *2/9D7315
Alan Ashby 90 .320 513 .681 *2/35
Dan Wilson 88 .309 519 .691 *2/35
Rich Gedman 88 .304 382 .703 *2/D
Greg Myers 87 .313 396 .708 *2/D
Mike Heath 86 .300 469 .667 *29/75D3684
John Flaherty 80 .290 395 .667 *2/3D
Milt May 77 .318 443 .689 *2
Pat Borders 69 .288 346 .663 *2/D534
Mike Matheny 67 .293 443 .637 *2/3
Rick Cerone 59 .301 436 .644 *2/D31945
Buck Martinez 58 .284 321 .627 *2/91
Player HR OBP RBI OPS Pos
Joe Girardi 36 .315 422 .666 *2
Charlie Moore 36 .319 408 .675 *29/7D845
Kirt Manwaring 21 .311 278 .629 *2/D

Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used
Generated 8/31/2010.

by meercatjohn on Aug 31, 2010 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Phil, put the Baseball-Reference down slowly and move away.

by prosellis on Aug 31, 2010 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ha

after looking at the list of catchers with an OBP < .320 who hit home runs, I have to admit I was lying. I pretty much couldn’t stand any of those hitters other then Parrish, Molina, Dempsey, and

STEVE YEAGER

by meercatjohn on Aug 31, 2010 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was surprised to see Santiago on the list. I guess I was too young to know better, but I always thought he was a stud hitter. Apparently, in my mind at the time, his ungodly throwing ability translated into hitting.

by prosellis on Aug 31, 2010 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

He had a fascinating career

these catchers who make the majors at 21 and play until they are forty are amazing.

by meercatjohn on Aug 31, 2010 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Joe Fergueson

would have had big career if he played in 90s

by bhsportsguy on Aug 31, 2010 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Joe

may have been the biggest surprise to me when Bill James said how good he was. When he played I had never realized what a great combo of power and discipline he had. Strange because I liked the Toy Cannon, Ron Cey for the same reason but never gave Fergy the same credit for having the same kind of game on a smaller scale.

by meercatjohn on Aug 31, 2010 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Brian Downing

was a similar player.

I seem to recall James saying that Downing was the second best leadoff batter in the AL after Rickey.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 31, 2010 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Molina in his prime(what was that 2 years?)

was the shit. Don’t hate.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 31, 2010 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Must be an Angels fan.

by meercatjohn on Aug 31, 2010 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Heh

him and Glaus leaving without nary an attempt to resign them made me :(.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 31, 2010 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought McPherson

was going to fill the void just fine. Between the Dodgers / Angels turning their highly rated 3rd base prospects into major leaguers has been an uphill climb since Beltre/Glaus left.

by meercatjohn on Aug 31, 2010 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Heh yeah

thats before I had a clue about prospects.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 31, 2010 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s been our Bermuda Triangle since Cey left. A few good years here and there but mostly all promise and no long term sustenance.

by KellyStephen on Aug 31, 2010 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

We had this one dude start like 6 consecutive opening days

Too bad it was his age 20-25 seasons.

Pele breathes words of comfort, Seena just hides her eyes
Policeman taps his shades, Is that a chevy 69?

by G.Scott on Aug 31, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Too bad?

Ages 20-25: 110 OPS+, $13.97 mil in total salary
Ages 26-31: 106 OPS+, $73.00 mil in total salary

by Sean P. on Aug 31, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

And he was a beast defensively.

but if you take out his 163OPS+ in 2004, roughly 80% of his games were played at an OPS+ of 98.

Pele breathes words of comfort, Seena just hides her eyes
Policeman taps his shades, Is that a chevy 69?

by G.Scott on Aug 31, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Per MSTI

The Dodgers cock-blocked the Padres and almost got a no-no out of it. From the SD Union-Tribune:

The Dodgers placed Kuroda on waivers last week and were negotiating a waiver trade with the Padres when they decided to recall him from waivers.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 31, 2010 8:57 AM PDT reply actions  

Early December we will find out if this was a move of pride or a move made because they wanted to offer Kuroda arb.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 31, 2010 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure why we should care about the Dodgers saving money.

by Tripon on Aug 31, 2010 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

This move wouldn't have been to save money

it would have been to actually add a prospect or two

by Eric Stephen on Aug 31, 2010 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I always thought the Dodgers would hesitate

to give up any pitching since they don’t really have many options in the minors to start and they don’t want to overuse their relievers. Plus they might want to re-up Kuroda and Lilly.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 31, 2010 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed on the first part

but on the second part, they can sign them this winter by offering them more money than other teams.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 31, 2010 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Twitter works

Bob Timmermann tweeted that his pen did not work (Bob keeps score in a nifty scorebook) and a lady at the game saw it and brought him a pen.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 31, 2010 9:08 AM PDT reply actions  

Twitter stalking, the new crime of the 21st century

by Eric Stephen on Aug 31, 2010 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

He uses a pen?

Is it a Pilot Precise Zing (Fine) because I just stole that from a Co-Worker and after touching that baby to paper, she is never getting it back.

by meercatjohn on Aug 31, 2010 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sands

now has a lower K% in AA compared to low A (21% to 21.2%!)

by npurcell on Aug 31, 2010 9:16 AM PDT reply actions  

Too bad the walk rate dropped too.

by Michael White on Aug 31, 2010 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

that was expected dont you think?

jumping two levels…but the drop in K rate was not expected. that is reason for optimism. And his walk rate is still above average and is ISOp is still above .250.

by npurcell on Aug 31, 2010 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hugh said that in his last month

in the MWL he was getting nothing to hit whatsoever.

by meercatjohn on Aug 31, 2010 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

We should really get that Josie beacon

by Eric Stephen on Aug 31, 2010 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe get a bulk discount

if you order the Uncle Google one at the same time.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 31, 2010 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

The next Galaxy home game is Sept 11, against Columbus who are in 2nd place for the Supporters shield behind the Galaxy. Big match.

by Josie Becker on Aug 31, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Supporters Shield? Really???

by Eric Stephen on Aug 31, 2010 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s the award given to the team which finishes at the top of the table at the end of the season. It’s MLS’ way of saying who has the best record in the league. If this were England, the top team is the league winner.

And soccer enjoyers are called supporters, as soccer has tried to move away from the hooligan stereotype. I believe y’all call them fanatics, or fan for short.

And it’s a shield, cause the Supporters Sword just resulted in too main raids : p

by Josie Becker on Aug 31, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why is it

that the more important something is, the lower the common denominator is? Telling me technical difficulties are my fault makes no sense to me, when Macs no longer have IE on them. That’s not a technical difficulty, that’s failing to understand life.

by Josie Becker on Aug 31, 2010 9:58 AM PDT reply actions  

I need some context with this

by robotmadeofnails on Aug 31, 2010 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's actually my bad

a page in my online course wasn’t loading, and everyone assumed it was on my end cause I was opening it with Safari/Firefox. So I switched to my parents computer, opened it with IE, then called tech and said Ha! You stink at your job.

by Josie Becker on Aug 31, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

my bad on the “people hate macs” rant, their bad on the site not working

by Josie Becker on Aug 31, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tech support guys hate their lives and aren’t paid enough to deal with the crap they do, so they take it out on everyone else.

by regfairfield on Aug 31, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mac blows hard

I prefer my PC even though I get a virus from time to time.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 31, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh

-1,000 points dude. Never tell someone in the humanities that you’re going to take away their mac

by Josie Becker on Aug 31, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Look how right this is.

by regfairfield on Aug 31, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Macs really make you computer stupid

When I had a PC, I was getting into open source projects, posting through FTP sites, doing some very basic coding

but since I switched to Mac I’m so much happier, even if I can’t tell you how anything works. It’s like a magic box!

by Josie Becker on Aug 31, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

So true, and really, that’s how it should be. No one should have to know what FTP is to move a file to a server, it should just be as simple as moving a folder on your desktop.

And if you are a giant nerd, hey, OSX is Linux so you can geek out all you want. Apple understood that no one cares about how computers work way before everyone else did, and they threw in a bunch of cool stuff for the small part of people that do.

by regfairfield on Aug 31, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bill Plaschke to Sox Blanco, Caveat Emptor

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-plaschke-manny-ramirez-20100831,0,936049.column

To give you a taste of his A,B,A,B scheme du jour:

I’d love to gloat about calling Manny a dead fish long before this happened.

But I’m having difficultly navigating the LATimes archives.

I would love to say that Manny was made of puppy dog tails and crushed up snails with a knee of peppermint bark.

But he’s like really tall so all that, j/k just playing

How do you say goodbye to your only source of material? Who will I bash on now, oh the McCourts, okay, all is still right with the world.

by Josie Becker on Aug 31, 2010 10:35 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd

but in a dead thread. You should repost in the top thread.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 31, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

pathetic

His 901 ops was all luck huh?

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Aug 31, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

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Pos No Player 2012 Salary
C 17 Ellis $500,000 team control
1B 7 Loney $6,375,000
2B 14 Ellis $2,500,000
3B 5 Uribe $8,000,000
SS 9 Gordon $485,000 team control
LF 21 Rivera $4,000,000
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SP 29 Lilly $12,000,000
SP 37 Capuano $3,000,000
SP 44
Harang $3,000,000

CL 54 Guerra $485,000 team control
RHP 74
Jansen $500,000 team control
RHP 55 Guerrier $4,750,000
RHP Coffey $1,000,000
RHP 66 MacDougal $650,000
LHP 57 Elbert $485,000 team control
RHP 36
Hawksworth $500,000 team control

TJ 41 De La Rosa $485,000 team control



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Andruw $3,375,000 deferred


Pierre $3,050,000 deferred
Furcal $3,000,000 deferred
Kuroda $2,000,000 deferred
Garland $1,500,000 option buyout
Blake $1,250,000 option buyout

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36
60 Matt Chico lhp
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35 John Grabow lhp
33
59 Angel Guzman rhp
30
47 Wil Ledezma lhp
31
72 Shane Lindsay rhp
27
62 Fernando Nieve rhp 29
73 Scott Rice lhp 30
70 Will Savage rhp
27
71 Ryan Tucker rhp
25

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82 Griff Erickson c 24
81 Matt Wallachc 26
67 Jeff Baisley 3b/1b 29
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33 Josh Fields 3b 29
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