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by Phil Gurnee on Aug 4, 2010 9:20 AM PDT
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I'm going to abuse this system for a minute to try to win a bet. Our company is opening a new electric bike store in Venice in about one month. The youngish manager just motor cycled in from Spain, and created a facebook page for the store. We currently have 67 friends associated with the store.
This is where you come in, my good TBLA Facebook freakazoids. I've bet him that I can get that membership up to 250 by Friday. Since no one pays me to write here, I'd like to collect a chip by asking you to do me this favor and join the Izip store Facebookgroup. If I'm eating lunch on my co-workers dime I'll be thinking of all of you in a good way, if I'm eating lunch on my dime, the mood will be dark, sinister, and will make for a blood curling TBLA Saturday Night.
So for all you lurkers who read but never write, this is an excellent anynomous way to let us know your out there.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Venice-CA/Izip-Store/138640456164010
While your at it, join the TBLA Facebook page.
http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=46526126133&ref=ts
We haven't done much with the TBLA page but maybe we will start doing things with it.
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Done and done
if you want someone to help manage the facebook page, I volunteer. :)
Leading the league in OMGs.
Check with Eric
but I think he’d love for you to manage the TBLA page.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I think we might want to get something
going where TBLA is something you “like” or become a fan of…so then when someone updates the page, it shows up on the News Feed of its members.
Leading the league in OMGs.
Someone told me Facebook changed
the nomenclature from Join to Like because people were afraid to join things. Is this true?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I just liked it for you
I also joined the TBLA facebook group; damn that place is rockin, there’s gotta be 4 posts in the last 2 months on there!
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
I’m working on my masters in electrical engineering and my summer project is designing a battery management system for an electric bike so I’ll ‘like’ your store despite living up here in Portland were your threat is pretty weak.
Let me know if you need some High-Flex wire and cable!
I can hook you up with short lengths.
"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson
by Ego Crusher! on Aug 4, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
I need some twisted pair telephone wire
can I walk down and get some:)
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
In a month you can check out the store and try one
here is the website of the products.
www.currietech.com
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
How 'bout a fruther dream where all prospects are successful and we retain Kemp & Ethier
Top of Lineup:
Gordon SS
Trayvon CF
Kemp RF
Sands 1B
Ethier LF
And I have a pony
and an endless supply of gin
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Aug 4, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
he's what 34?
stays healthy, keeps hitting about 30 dingers a year, record is his
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 4, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
age 34 year
just turned 35.
His ceiling is still quite high. 800 isn’t out of the question.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 4, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
i'd like to see him hit 869
break Sadaharu Oh’s record. (Oh-senshu said he could do it.)
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 4, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
I think if he broke Oh's record
it would go a long way for making him legit. Of course, that’s just me saying it. Not like I have a vote.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 4, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Really fun post here
A Cards fan picked a 25-man roster using one player from each of the last 25 years for each MLB team. Dodgers are here:
http://www.truebluela.com/2010/8/4/1604891/25-for-25-dodgers
Nice, upto 96, gain of 29 in about an 1 1/2 hours
I’m sure I’m going to fall woefully short of 250, but I appreciate the effort.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
He has a .398 OBP which is nice. If that could translate into a .360ish OBP in the bigs he would be pretty valuable with his speed.
Loving the double digit walk rate since he hit AA
http://firstinning.com/players/Trayvon-Robinson-a/
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
If he can play CF reasonably well, we might have something.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
What is a good OPS?
.350OBP, 400SLG…Is .750 okay? Is it the bottom of okay? Obviously .900 is very good and 1.000 is elite, but at what level does a player’s OPS need to be without them being considered for replacement?
I like Cetera.
Trayvon is a maybe for center. If he’s in a corner at Dodger Stadium, low .800s would be average. Center, closer to .770.
by regfairfield on Aug 4, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
I realize he's 1 - 2 years behind
in terms of age & development, but I wonder if Trayvon could become our McCutchen.
What is a realistic timeframe on him? If he puts up good numbers in AAA next year, does he get a shot in 2012?
2012 seems likely to me
although he could be next year’s Paul, filling in as needed for DL trips.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 4, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
cup of coffee this year?
he’s on the 40-man
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 4, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
I think he is likely to see time in September.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 4, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Fun with MLEs
just kicking around some budgetary ideas for the 2011 OF.
MLEs this season:
Trayvon vs. LHP: .259/.322/.398
X-Man vs RHP: .279/.338/.484
by Eric Stephen on Aug 4, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Even better
.266/.327/.468
.265/.381/.559 while with AA
by Eric Stephen on Aug 4, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I was told MLE's only mean something using AA and up.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
If he can really do that against ML batters next year
I’d platoon him with Paul.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Aug 4, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Actually
thinking about it… it depends on what you’re going to do with Ethier. If you’re going to keep him as a Dodger and let him walk as a free agent, then yes, platoon Sands and Ethier. If you are going to try to trade Ethier while his trade value is highest — and I think you only do that if you think the Dodgers need to rebuild — then you let Ethier bat against lefties. He loses value if his rep (currently: “play him every day”) catches up to reality (“he should be a platoon player”).
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Aug 4, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
That is a decent MLE for Trayvon
from AA.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
what i wrote at minor league ball
Dee Gordon is overrated by scouts because he flashes plus athleticism, tools and speed. This year, he has held his own jumping two levels but with his age, it gets to a point where those tools need to translate into production. His low K rate is encouraging but the low walks, errors and minimal power are all negatives in my eyes. He’s still a top 10 dodger prospect but the system has had other players who have produced to go along with tools as well.
top 8
Chris Withrow (i still believe)
Jerry Sands
Travyon Robinson
Kenley Jansen
Dee Gordon
Rubby De la Rosa (HUGE HUGEEEE sleeper)
Ethan Martin (still believe in the arm as well)
Aaron Miller
Dodgers did not trade away any top 10 prospects at the deadline. any questions, ask away.
my thought on Rubby
the dodgers thought enough of him to jump him two levels midseason, even with the lack of experience under his belt. His stuff is probably legit. And I LOVE that gb rate.
I want Rubby to succeed just because I've never rooted for a Rubby
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
OK, question
How do these 8 prospects rank against other franchises? Good, bad, average? What are the chances for any of these eight to be a very special, superstar-level player? How many franchises have one of those in their system?
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Aug 4, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
1. I think we’re top 20, we’re average-good
2. Chances for any of them become that special is low
3. About one or two
Just my two cents.
by Julio Nievas on Aug 4, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Poorly. BA had us in the high 20s last year and if anything it got worse.
by regfairfield on Aug 4, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks
I know BA’s rankings can be controversial with some of our prospect mavens due to their preference for tools over performance. Is there any reason to believe that our prospects can be better than BA thinks?
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Aug 4, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s because our “top prospects” have sucked
by Julio Nievas on Aug 4, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
If you’re knocking on Gordon for lack of production, you should give a similar knock on Withrow. He’s going to be 22 next year, and he’s start getting left handers out in order to be a starter.
its more of a gut thing
I still believe in Withrow’s arm. This is essentially his second full year pitching only. I believe he still has time to straighten it out.
speaking of Sandy,
someone should show Ned and Joe this quote
“In the end it all comes down to talent. You can talk all you want about intangibles, I just don’t know what that means. Talent makes winners, not intangibles. Can nice guys win? Sure, nice guys can win – if they’re nice guys with a lot of talent. Nice guys with a little talent finish fourth, and nice guys with no talent finish last.”—-Sandy Koufax
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 4, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
But he admits to not knowing what intangibles means. Intangibles doesn’t mean being a “nice guy”. It’s about things like awareness, experience, dedication, drive, the willingness to push yourself beyond your current best. Matt Kemp has all the talent in the world, but he (like others on the team, he’s just the easy/popular choice) refuse to shift into high gear.
I’m not saying Sandy Koufax doesn’t know what he’s talking about. I’m saying intangibles matter as much as talent because guys with great intangibles can develop more ability, whereas guys with talent who have no intangibles end up like Elijah Dukes.
Talent and “intangibles” are not mutually exclusive. Everyone has a degree of both.
Google before you Tweet. It's the new Think before you Speak.
this is all true
but I was stating it more in terms of guys like GA who are kept around due to “intangibles” or “veteran presence” when their talent has long since left. in that case Intangibles don’t help the team at all.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 4, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Webster
is noticeably absent.
Mid-90s w/plus curve and good walk rates (minus that one horrible start).
He’s in my top 5.
My top 5
1. Sands
2. Withrow
3. Jansen
4. Rubby
5. Trayvon
Can’t ignore the potential of Rubby’s. A mid-high 90s FB and two potential plus offerings cannot be ignored.
by Julio Nievas on Aug 4, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
webster is not absent
he’s top 10 for me. in Low A for a guy with supposebly his stuff, i want to seea higher K rate.
webster
you got it all wrong… webster has a plus change… his curve is not as good as his change
Rubby is exactly where I want him to be, third best pitching prospect.
by Julio Nievas on Aug 4, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Not sure what the big knock is against Gordon. Looking at his numbers, it appears that he could stand raise his OBP some and hit for a little more power, but considering he was jumped pretty quickly. He has an OPS just south of .700, if he is able to improve incrementally and raise that to .750-.770 wouldn’t that be sufficient as a SS?
Maybe, if he was playing SS. Hasn’t he made like 35 errors this season? He might as well go out there without a glove.
I like Cetera.
Improvement will come. His range is more important, and he has great range.
by Julio Nievas on Aug 4, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
If you turn 45 balls a year into hits, I don’t care how much range you have.
by regfairfield on Aug 4, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Furcal is error prone, but he's still an above average SS
Of course, no way Gordon is Furcal, defense wise, so you still win.
Right, not sure why no one is understanding this.
I continue to ask, what SS had 40 errors in AA ball and became a viable SS. I pretty sure the answer is zero, but I’d like to know if that is true or not.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Offerman had 36 in AAA once.
Though you did say viable.
by regfairfield on Aug 4, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Good pull, that does not make me feel anymore secure
then I did.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
he said viable
ZING!
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Aug 4, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
And did you notice the huge improvement in AA ball?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
To be fair, that was the only guy I checked.
by regfairfield on Aug 4, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Starlin Castro
Made 39 errors last year between A+ and AA. (Yes I know he is younger)
Gordon first got “noticed” last year. This year he was skipped two levels and is underperforming. Maybe next year he pulls it together. Maybe not. Its too early to give up on him.
and maybe the earth gets hit by an asteroid
and it doesn’t matter.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 4, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
That's why
we have gin.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Aug 4, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
See, this is what I don’t get. Where are these arbitrary deadlines for when a player should be good coming from. The kid is 22 people are writing off his career, that seems a little harsh.
No one is writing him off
but he did not turn the corner this year to become a top prospect. As of now, he’s simply a fast SS with little power, little plate discipline, while making a prodigous number of errors. He has to improve in all those area’s to become a major league SS that we’d care about.
He may be a roto gold mine with 60 SB potential but that will not make him a usefull SS. That will make him a Taveras.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I don’t know what the actual numbers would be, but lets say his range gets him to 50 more balls than the average short stop with his range. Would it be ok then to have so many errors?
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
He's not Ozzie Smith
I’m no expert but I don’t think any SS with a human body can get to 50 balls that the average SS could not get to.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Yep. A middle infielder turning a hit into an out is worth something like .7 runs. 50 balls is a +35 year which is more than Ozzie ever did.
by regfairfield on Aug 4, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I said don't worry about the vase
What will really boggle your mind, is that if he gets to so many extra balls and throws half of them away, as opposed to having the situational awareness and experience to know to just hold onto it, how many of those errors would become infield singles. More importantly, how many of them would have been RBI singles with a runner on second that he single-handedly turned into runner on first and third with no runs scored.
I like Cetera.
I don’t really care about the difference between an error and just eating the ball. A missed play is a missed play, and Dee Gordon misses a lot of plays.
by regfairfield on Aug 4, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s not that young, he’s having a terrible year, and he has nine less errors than the Reds.
But he sure is fast.
by regfairfield on Aug 4, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
To be fair, he could figure it out within the next 3 years and still come up as a 25 year old. I feel like the influx of 20-22 year old superstars in the last couple years has made us jaded into thinking that if you haven’t made it by 20 you’re never going to be good.
Being a 25 year old rookie is okay too.
I like Cetera.
No, he wouldn’t be useful if he came up at a 25 year old. Historically, teams try to promote their prospects as fast as they can because spending too much time in the minors will retard growth. If you’re ever going to be ML good, you need to play against ML players.
because spending too much time in the minors will retard growth
That’s only if they stop being challenged. Granted his offense could use some work as far as patience goes and such, but defense is a static measure. Runners higher up may or may not get faster as there are several players stuck in A ball because they’re fast but can’t steal first. He can work on his defense in the minors and not get stunted.
The only thing that may be stunted from being in the minors for another couple years, especially if you repeat the same level a couple times, is your motivation.
I like Cetera.
I’m saying, even if he stays in AA for a couple years, he would still be getting challenged in his biggest area of need..defense and patience. I could understand how leaving Akins or Sands in Lo-A would stunt them because you don’t get any better hitting bombs off lower caliber pitchers, but you should still be able to work on defense at any level.
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If he's still being challenged by Double-A and he's still at Double-A after two years, hes no good to anyone.
You know who repeated Double-A multiple times? JtD. Joel Guzman. He’s currently 25.
Are you saying that he needs to put up a huge season next season at AAA and then jump to the bigs? If he doesn’t then he isn’t worth anything. The Guzman comp doesn’t seem to be a fair comp since they are totally different types of players.
Diffferent types of players?
Guzman was a big time prospect at SS that couldn’t dominate Double-A.
Spending so much time in the minors is not a good argument that you can play in the majors.
Guzman was supposed to be a power-hitting SS whereas Gordon is going to be a slashing speedster more typical of the position. Guzman couldn’t stick at SS because he was too large and he never really developed the power he was supposed to have.
This is only Gordon’s second season in the minors, I’m not exactly sure what you are expecting of him. Should he be ready to go next season?
That's the problem, its his 2nd season of not just pro ball, but overall orgizational ball.
Its not as if he’s a baseball lifer, he’s has little experience overall. Why the heck should I believe in a guy that needs to repeat multiple levels? Why should I believe a 25 year old can replace Furcal?
I had concerns about Gordon coming into this season. He had a .360 BABIP last year, and it wasn’t from him using his speed to turn ground balls into hits.
He hasn’t really stagnated as much as it looks, he’s basically having the same exact year -30 points of BABIP after being promoted two levels. Problem is that I doubt Gordon would be anywhere near this hyped if he hit .270 last year instead of .300.
by regfairfield on Aug 4, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I know i'm a little late to the conversation
but I wanted to say that’s a pretty good top 8. I’m not going to reveal any of my overall rankings until after the season, but I will say my current rank would include moslty the same players, only in a different order for some. The only other players i’d consider would be Jonathan Garcia and Garrett Gould. Also, why i’ve always been a fan of Rubby and considered him a sleeper in the past, he might not have moved up to my top 8 just yet…although he still could if he finishes out the season strong
by Brandon Lennox on Aug 4, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
OK, I thought it was spam when i saw it on Facebook
but I joined anyway.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
Top 5 TBLA Industries (78 votes)
1. Student (25%)
2. Accounting / Finance (14%)
3t. Architecture / Engineering (7%)
3t. Education (7%)
5. Marketing / PR / Advertising (5%)
The remaining 42% is a very diverse mix. No wonder TBLA is so awesome.
I was shocked we had no retiree's here.
Maybe I can be the first.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I’m offended I got lumped in with the architects.
by regfairfield on Aug 4, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
As a Civil Engineer
so am I. I would much rather be lumped together with City Planners
My dad does the same thing. Might be a dumb question, but do you know of any places hiring civil engineers? My dad has been in the field for about 30 years or so, and now it’s kicking the crap out of him and he can’t find any steady work. If you knew of anything in ventura county it would be very, very appreciated.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
I work in
Northern San Diego County. It’s a tough market right now since our work is tied into development, not much hiring going on
Oh damn, lol
Thanks anyway. Yeah, not many places are hiring right now, it’s a bitch.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
where my paralegals at
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Aug 4, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
As in the least represented categories?
Or people who live in their parents’ basements?
Maybe that’s why I didn’t see a comment from Eric, his category wasn’t on there. :)
I though because of where he lived it had something
to do with scorpions. Scorpion wrangler? Scorpion walker? Scorpion breeder?
Still amazed by Clifford Phifer Lee this year
18 starts, 147 innings so far, an average of 8.17 IP/start
In the last 30 years, only a select few have averaged eight innings in at least 20 starts
Greg Maddux (1994): 25 GS, 202 IP, 8.08 IP/GS
Mario Soto (1983): 34, 273 2/3, 8.04 IP/GS
Ron Guidry (1983): 31, 250 1/3, 8.08 IP/GS
Steve McCatty (1981): 22, 185 2/3, 8.44 IP/GS
Rick Langford (1981): 24, 195 1/3, 8.14 IP/GS
Mike Norris (1980): 33, 284 1/3, 8.62 IP/GS
Rick Langford (1980): 33, 287 2/3, 8.72 IP/GS
Those last four pitchers were on the Billy Ball Oakland A’s, when Billy Martin went insane and said his pitchers were men and, by God, they were going to shake hands with the catcher. Langford completed 28 of 33 starts in 1980, and Norris completed 24 of 33.
do they have average pitch count stats for those guys? that would be interesting to see
"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010
"Oh honey, I'm chalk full of juju" -Maddz 7-15-2010
Baseball-Reference doesn’t have pitch counts for 1980, unfortunately.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 4, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Gahaha how did I forget THAT?
I was 8 at the time, but I’m well aware the season was cancelled. Just didn’t think about it. I’m changing my signature to reflect my biggest issue on this site. Not an issue with the site, my issue on the site. As far as my comments..whatever you’ll see at some point.
I like Cetera.
I laugh @ the age of some of the posters here.
I’m glad you have such a young following.
by Greg Stephen on Aug 4, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
It's all a ruse
I’m trolling for chicks.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 4, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
no, you are a troll, looking for chicks
by Greg Stephen on Aug 4, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
bird
in the UK vernacular
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
that is acceptable
Other acceptable terms – ruca, hyna, ho, trim, and I guess bitches. Bitches is conditional.
@soyboquense
Hey
I was 11 in ’94 Totally legit.
"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010
"Oh honey, I'm chalk full of juju" -Maddz 7-15-2010
9 in ’94. I remember grade school as a fun, catholic filled time
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 4, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
What
catholic school did you go to?
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 4, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Cool
St. Margaret Mary in Lomita
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Aug 4, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Wait?
St. Margaret Mary Catholic Church, acros from Alexander Fleming Middle School?
My Grandpa
is actually the unofficial mayor of HC, according a decree from Janice Hahn.
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
Sorry
I stepped away for a tick, yes St. Margaret Mary across from Fleming
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
Heh. My family attended that church.
I was an altar boy there for several years.
Years I was alive for
or not. I can’t remember if you’re an oldie
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
Ah!
So, most likely, I have seen you at some point, when you were an altar boy, and in fact, probably know your family
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
oh frak that
So close, and yet, never in the same place at the same time
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
Harbor City
Green Meadows
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
Green Meadows!
Off Sepulveda, across from Aaaaarby’s
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
Oh! Ha,gotcha. I only ventured down that way to go to Mulligan's.
I lived at Anaheim St./Belle Porte. Steered clear of President Ave.
Oh Mulligans
the site of so many awkward tween dates
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
If you're NBA Jamming
that’s not waste
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
Oh lord
that game was awful. That must’ve been about the time they installed the ski simulator. That was my favorite
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
The 1980 A’s had their top five pitchers make 159 starts, and they had 93 complete games. Their starters averaged 7.79 innings per start.
Their fifth starter had 211 1/3 innings.
I would watch a documentary about those 1980-1981 A’s
by Eric Stephen on Aug 4, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
1981 A's
played 109 games, and had 60 complete games, and averaged 7.57 innings per start.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 4, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
They had 10 other pitchers pitch that year, but only six had double-digit innings. Only three relievers pitched more than 16 innings.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 4, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Per Gurnick
There haven’t been any conversations between the Dodgers and first-round Draft pick Zach Lee since shortly after Lee was selected, assistant general manager of scouting Logan White said on Tuesday.
Lee, a 6-foot-4, 195-pound right-handed pitcher from Texas, was considered to be a difficult sign going into the Draft because of a commitment to play quarterback at Louisiana State and reported bonus demands in excess of $3 million. A day after the Dodgers took Lee at No. 28 overall in June, LSU issued a statement reaffirming Lee’s desire to play college football.
“We had get-to-know-you dialogues when we first drafted him, and that’s it,” White said. “… He likes football, he likes baseball. He’s a good kid.”
I think it was one the those draft the kid and hope his parents lose their house or something and he needs some dough. Never looked like a fit from the beginning.
Also seemed like a “if we leak that the kid wants a $6mil bonus and don’t sign him everyone will blame him instead of us!”
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I think it was one of those “Frank says we have to punt the 1st round draft pick because his wife is a greedy whore” type of things.
Completely agree
The part in quotations was literally meant to be what Frank said to Ned/Logan.
The rest of the article says...
“White said he was confident he could net Southern Cal’s Joc Pederson (11th round), junior college pitcher Jake Eliopoulos (15th) and Wichita State baseball recruit Scott Schebler (26th round) before the deadline. Eliopoulos was a second-round pick of the Blue Jays in 2009 and did not sign. "
by Brandon Lennox on Aug 4, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
so that's good because we didn't know about Pederson
by Brandon Lennox on Aug 4, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice
Do you have anything on any of those guys?
I got a few articles that I had copied and pasted
but it wouldn’t work well posting it here. What I can copy and paste:
Scott Schebler, CF, Des Moines Area CC: Schebler was recently recruited to play at Wichita State. He hit .462 for DMACC in 55 games.
Joc Pederson – A young athlete with professional bloodlines, present tools and a football approach to the game, Pederson is a favorite among Northern California scouts. See him on the right day and you are seeing a borderline five-tool high school prospect, though the ceiling is basically average across the board. Pederson hits and throws lefthanded, has an average arm, above-average range, runs a bit above-average down the line, has plenty of bat speed, and at times shows projectable average raw power. He tends to tinker a lot with his swing and approach, which gets in the way of him just going out and trusting his tools. Pederson was a talented high school football player and brings that type of toughness to the ball field, and if he were from the Midwest or Northeast he might be even higher on draft lists because as a multi-sport athlete he would be seen as having tremendous baseball upside. Just because he lives in California doesn’t mean the same projection shouldn’t apply. He has committed to Southern California, where his father Stu also played before moving onto the professional level.
Eliopoulos was a second-round pick of the Blue Jays in 2009. He left his team this season before the year was done. The left-hander will have the option of signing, or looking for another college program to pitch for next season.
by Brandon Lennox on Aug 4, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Afternoon baseball - Giants/Rockies
Jimenez vs. Bumgarner.
I would say let’s go Rockies, but we have to catch them too and I consider them the more dangerous team.
On a side note..i realize the dude can touch triple digits, but how come JB refuses to throw his slider?
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he threw it last night
got the ground ball. you are talking about Broxton right?
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 4, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
yessir.
You stated my point perfectly. I wonder if there is a chart/graph/log that shows he is a successful when a certain % of sliders are thrown. Some nights, he throws all FB and gets crushed (a la pat Burrell at bat) and others he relies on his sliders and hitters kind of sit. I wonder if we could see his outings where he throws 30-35% sliders (my guess, no fact) he is more successful than if he throws under 25% or over 50% sliders.
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I've been saying that to my family for awhile now
It really seems like when Broxton gets in trouble is when he relies on one pitch. Man if he had a change-up……..
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 4, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
he (hopefully) ever throws 10-20 pitches a game, so having only two pitches is totally legit. The problem comes because his location and movement on his fastball aren’t all that great, and if you see it enough times, anyone can hit a 100mph straight fastball down the middle.
But if he could go slider, fb, fb, sl or fb, sl, fb, fb to some of these hitters he’d be a lot more unpredictable and his stuff is far too good for hitters to be successful if they aren’t able to guess.
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he'd be like Gagne on steroids. Oh, nevermind
by Greg Stephen on Aug 4, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
if he could be that
but without steroids, can you name me anyone who wouldn’t want that?
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 4, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
The problem that I see with throwing that high of a percentage of the sliders is the walk issue. Maybe its my faulty memory, but it doesn’t seem like he throws it in the zone very often. It absolutely devastating when he’s ahead in the count, but its not going to get him there too often.
he just needs to mix it in more
if he gets ahead, he should try for that slider. either they swing and ground out, swing and miss, or look at it for a ball. In his last few outings, he just hasn’t thrown in enough to keep the hitter consistently guessing.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 4, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree with that. It just seems that he hasn’t been getting ahead right away, which kind of handcuffs him to the fastball. Earlier in the year, his fastball command seemed to be a lot better than it is right now, which meant that he could go to his slider more often.
this is also true
i think sometimes he tries to put his fastball on the black, when if he gets like the outer 1/3 or 1/4th it’s not gonna be a hit.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 4, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
OT
Anyone listen to Enter the Haggis? I’m seriously digging them right now.
"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010
"Oh honey, I'm chalk full of juju" -Maddz 7-15-2010
Scott Pilgrim
“If your life had a face I wold punch it.” I’m so excited! And I just can’t hide it!
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
I have no idea of the backstory or history of Scott Pilgrim, but the previews make me want to see that movie.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 4, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I've seen the books in the bookstore
but seeing the preview for the movie makes me want to read them all the more. I should probably see the movie first, so I don’t have to whine about how they “ruined” it. cause someone will say it.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 4, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
all reports are that it’s terribly faithful, and from what I’ve seen that’s true.
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by Josie Becker on Aug 4, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
awesome
books purchase will be happening soon, btw.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 4, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I can do this!
Scott Pilgrim, 23 yrs old, Canadian. Meets the girl of his dreams, Ramona, while dating High School Knives Chao, cause she was simple. Ramona comes with 7 evil exes of baggage, and Scott has to face each of them, video game style, in order to keep dating her. It’s like a musical with fighting instead of song. And it’s directed by the Shawn of the Dead guy, so, quirky.
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by Josie Becker on Aug 4, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
what do you think
of the casting of Michael Cera(sp?) as Scott? I like him in the preview.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 4, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
It works
Scott’s young, awkward, capable of awesome but totally spacey. So Cera brings a bit of intelligence to the character which wasn’t written, but is sorta implied since Scott did go to college, even if he’s now a broke post-grad.
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by Josie Becker on Aug 4, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm sick of him
how many more movies can he be in as the exact same guy?
He's young
once he’s not the go to guy for awkward young adult, he’ll get better roles or fade away.
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by Josie Becker on Aug 4, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
seems like playing Scott Pilgrim would help
the character is way more assertive and heroic than anything else he’s played.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 4, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Scott's character development
is pretty much exactly the development Cera needs. From passive stumbling into love, to actively going after someone.
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by Josie Becker on Aug 4, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
btw
is the movie just based on the first book? or is it a compilation of all of them?
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 4, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
It's all of them
The books, though six in number, only cover 3-4 months
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i thought so
not like the books are long anyway.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 4, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Josh Fisher, aka the man behind DodgerDivorce.com, will be a guest on Mason & Ireland at the surprisingly specific time of 2:42 p.m. today.
Padres were impressed with Lilly yesterday
per Corey Brock / MLB.com:
“In the past, he relied on that big, loopy curveball and a lot of changeups,” Hairston said. “But today, I hadn’t seen that before from him,” Hairston said. "This is the best I’ve seen him throw. He mixed his fastball and spotted it really well.
“What he did really well was [pitch] in and out,” Padres manager Bud Black said. “The fastball inside and he had a good hook [curveball]. We couldn’t quite get on top of the fastball.”
You may not!
Ah, who am I kidding? You may.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 4, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
true story
my brother’s text right after Tejada’s HR: “Good Fuckin trade Colletti!!! Fuck Ted Lilly!!”
My Brother after the game was over: “Ted Lilly was awesome”(said with the tone of eating crow.) he also added “About fucking time we win.”
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 4, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
nice
just bought field box seats for $18 a piece for thursdays game. They normally sell for 50-55 bucks on the dodgers website.
Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?
Really good pitching matchups for the Giants/Braves series this weekend. Hopefully the Braves take care of the Giants while the Dodgers attempt to find an offensive pulse against the Nats.
Lincecum/Jurrjens
Zito/Hanson
Cain/Hudson
Sanchez/Lowe
But it is very well aged swiss cheese that is very hard in every place but the gaping holes.
by prosellis on Aug 4, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m more curious if his power would translate to MLB. I keep thinking the upside is Mark Reynolds-lite as a plus defender in right. Is that too far off?
His power definitely will.
that power is legit. but right now, he would break the strikeout record if you let him play a full season. It would be agonizing to watch.
If he could pop 30+ homeruns and play plus defense, I think I could live with it. I’ve always been a bit puzzled by a guy like Mark Reynolds, but I think it is ultimately his defense that is really what makes the difference for me. The strikeout numbers would be a lot more tolerable if they were offset by everything else. With Reynolds, they aren’t. With Russell, they might be.
I think I’m the only person without a facebook page.
by Skunkburner on Aug 4, 2010 1:20 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
not that I object to the name
just your spelling
do not associate me with Philly, or you shall be smoten.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 4, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s my bad, the thought never even occurred to me, lol.
Why is there the dislike for Facebook from so many people? It’s not like it’s twitter, haha.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
It doesn't respect your privace
the owner is a douchebag. They change the interface ever two months. etc
If anyone is wondering about the Dodgers trades from a fantasy perspective
Here is a piece — with video — from Bloomberg Sports.
Also linked on the sidebar in the Fan Posts.
So Eric
any news about Russell Martin’s injury? I don’t expect him to play today, but I’m just hoping he doesn’t land on the DL.
Leg was amputated this morning. But he’s expected back tomorrow.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 4, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The Phillies don't need Ryan Howard
per beat writer Todd Zolecki:
Phillies acquire first baseman Mike Sweeney from the Seattle Mariners for a player to be named later or cash considerations.
Anyone ever press the Coca Cola button at a vending machine and get a Pepsi? This happened to me the other day.
I have had that happened.
Now I stick to buying Mexican Coca-Cola from Circle K.
I would do a
freakin dance.
Fanta is my friend.
Strawberry is 2nd to grape in my book. Orange is 3rd. All are delightful
Celtics trying to open up an NBA retirement home, I guess.
Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?
I still think the Magic
are the better team in the East, I was surprised that the Celtics beat them.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 4, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Prop 8 has been overturned in California
by silverwidow on Aug 4, 2010 1:54 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
No Politics, but
YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
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by Josie Becker on Aug 4, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Both sides
promised to appeal, so this is still going on for awhile, still, big decision
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The GLBT
are allowed to marry again!
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Voters said – No Gay Marriage
Courts said – OK, Gay Marriage
Voters said – No, Gay Marriage, again
Courts now said – Listen, Okay Gay Marriage
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No matter what the issue is, I cannot understand how a court can overturn something the voters have voted for two times.
@soyboquense
The Constitution protects the rights of the individual against the whims of the majority. On second thought, I’m staying out of this. Going to lunch, enjoy the chatter.
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Called a constitution
you know that thing that gets in the way of the US doing even more stupid things then they already do.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I love how
the Constitution is like a giant Town Charter. It doesn’t prevent the townsfolk doing anything, but like a game of scrabble, folk can then challenge your actions, time and time again, and you refer to the document, and we pay these people called Judges and lawyers to refer to the document. I wanted to post the pic from Marge v. Monorail, where Wiggam discovers he’s owed three women a month, but alas I fail.
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Oh that’s right. I remember thinking that it was odd that california being how liberal it is couldn’t get that to pass.
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Strange state
Repub Senators up the wazoo, very liberal Senators. They can’t make up their minds. This year they will freak us out, put Jerry back in office but vote out Boxer.
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Now at 127
60 New users in about 5 hours, and it looks like many lurkers have joined, so thanks. Just need to double that and I’ll be a legend in the office. Don’t mention where you came from, he thinks I’m in a cult. Which I guess is technically correct.
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i hope so
otherwise I branded myself for nothing……again.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 4, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
It wouldn't be the first time I was suckered into something like this under false pretenses
Damn Jim Jones got me, luckily I was sick “The big day”
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Does Eric know
he’s made an enemy over at Dodger Thoughts?
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
He won an emmy?
congrats Eric!
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E, need advice
Galaxy pick up new player, won’t be available ’til Sunday. Do I make it part of the game stream to save space or new feature or am I taking soccer way too seriously?
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someone
named ArmaghSniper who doesn’t appreciate the attitude here
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
hah people like him crack me up
He doesn’t like/understand any advanced metrics so he claims people that use them don’t like/use anything else.
I think he’s the guy that called me a racist when I said that Japanese pitchers rarely last long then said I didn’t understand the basics of physics.
you just don't understand
the physics of racism
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
didn't mind the content of the comment
but no need to even bring up Eric. Eric never said the long ball was god simply that we were not hitting as many this year.
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Who's that and do you know why?
I bet it someone he’s “go fuck yourself(ed)”
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Probably a login problem
we don’t let those who are incarcerated, login.
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Rockies up 4-0 after 6
Aubrey Huff 2-for-3 against Jimenez, rest of Giants: 1-for-A Lot.
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Hey Eric, just so you don't think was a complete abuse of TBLA
we also added about 20 new TBLA FaceBook friends. So now we just need Maddz to do her magic and bring the group to life.
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Yeah, but Theriot is just like him, so he’ll have a big game too tonight, right?
by Little Blue Bicycle on Aug 4, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Double Awesome
I always root for these guys to do much better, so that someday Ned will say, dang, maybe not such a good idea.
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Dodgers East, aka the Pirates, add Chan Ho Park to their collection of old friends.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Aug 4, 2010 2:29 PM PDT reply actions
Keith
you alive? just saw 118 and humidity in your area.
Felt like it was 2012 last night. South melting, Russia burning, Pakistan flooding. Felt weird that California was not having an earthquake or fire.
Did anyone else lose the greatest respect for John Cusack? I know a check is a check but this is what you said yes to?
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he did Grosse Point Blanke
he’s all good with me.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 4, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Right
that is what I mean, I’ve liked just about all his movies, and then 2012 comes out and I want to puke. Those movies are like Paul Newman being in the stupid fire movie. A movie he was embarrassed about the rest of his career.
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Me neither
so I catch the last 20 minutes of those movies on cable while waiting for the Daily Show to start. I had to see how bad it was and it did not disappoint.
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Paul Newman redeemed himself
with delicious dressing.
best spaghetti sauce in the history of ever
My mom’s
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 4, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
sez you
kinda funny though, as the recipe my mom uses, was taught to her by my dad, who learned it from my grandma.
and on that note: I FUCKING LOVE ITALIAN FOOD!!!!!!
and now I’m hungry
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 4, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, I am Italian. :) First generation born in this country.
Fun times throwing the ball around the garden back in the day.
Spaghetti favorite food
but I’m embarrassed to order it so I only make it at home. I literally eat it until I burst, so when I die I’m sure there will be a photo of my guts wide open with spaghetti intermingled with my guts, and my wife telling the Paramedic, he just wouldn’t stop, so I kept giving him more. Can you give me the death certificate, I’ve got a insurance adjuster I need to call.
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by Phil Gurnee on Aug 4, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I feel like I can make plenty good spaghetti at home
so I do the same. It really is one of the best things ever.
cool beans
I’m like 3rd generation or something. My great grandpa was from Sicily, and married a Cuban woman in America.
I am a mutt.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 4, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
You've got nothing on my Irish
I’m like 6th generation…or something, idk, I can’t be bothered with knowing this type of thing.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Oh he doesn't smell like Irish Spring
and he never taught me anything.
But still I slap my chest and sing
of My Drunken Irish Dad.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 4, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I've yet to enter a Fresh N Easy store
but I’m going soon.
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That is my favorite Cusack movie
Got about half way through the other night before i saw it was 2 AM and I had work the next morning. I think that is a brilliant movie, top notch.
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Oh I’ve seen it at least 10 times, it’s just been a few months since I’ve seen it the whole thing. The main chick in the movie is really quirky and I really like how she does that roll, it all works really well together. I actually don’t hate Jeremy Piven in that movie, either, so that’s a plus.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Felt like it was 2012 last night. South melting, Russia burning, Pakistan flooding. Felt weird that California was not having an earthquake or fire.
Find some wood and start hitting it.
I'm banging my dick against the wall as I type
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typing with one hand?
or just swiveling back and forth?
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
How can you not like that movie?
Sure it sucks. Is it awful? Yes. Is it one of the worst acted movies anyone’s ever seen by 3/4 of the actors in it? Definitely.
But no one can say it’s not entertaining, if not just for how bad it truly is, lol.
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Catcher Matt Wallach has been transferred from Inland Empire to the Chattanooga Lookouts (AA-Southern)
Wallach was hitting .263 with 31 RBI and an active 66ers leading 8 HR at the time of his promotion.
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You live in LA right?
Have a couple beers/cocktails/whatever and go to the beach. You will immediately feel much better and then you can prepare for the next one.
Beers and cocktails in LA are expensive for an unemployed teacher. Hell, drinks in LA are expensive for an employed teacher.
When I was growing up, all the drunks in my hometown drank PBR. I can still see them passed out in front of the post office, the cans floating down the river.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Aug 4, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry
I haven’t had to look for a job since I got my first real job out of college but that was a tough few months wondering if anyone was going me hire me. Luckily I did get a gig but some never do, and their life spirals out of control, ending up in the toilet where the only person who could have helped them was the old friend whose hand was slapped when all they wanted was a free donut.
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by Phil Gurnee on Aug 4, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
She's 4th grade
her grade level is down to two teachers from five 10 years ago.
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LAUSD - area is Woodland Hills
Do your best to stay away from LAUSD. Each year the awesome benefits get less and less and they will try to steal your soul because they really want robots teaching, not individuals.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Diamondbacks optioned SS Tony Abreu to Triple-A Reno.
The 25-year-old Abreu has posted a .237/.255/.298 batting line in 131 at-bats for the D’Backs this season. He needs to work on some things offensively against a lower level of competition, and he’ll do just that.
— Rotoworld
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