Dodgers Week 18 In Review: A Winning Homestand
by Eric Stephen on Aug 9, 2010 7:42 AM PDT
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PrintThe Dodgers showed some signs of life this week, winning four of seven games at home against the Padres and Nationals. The offense found a pulse, averaging more than four runs per game, roughly double the production of the previous few weeks. The team got a few nice starts from its pitchers, and the bullpen performed as well. All eight relievers pitched between two and three innings for the week, and six of the eight allowed no runs out of the bullpen.
Since the All-Star break, the Dodgers are 8-6 at home, and 1-9 on the road.
Dodger Batter of the Week: Andre Ethier turned up the power this week, with five extra-base hits, hitting .321/.387/.643. Honorable mention goes to Jamey Carroll, who ended the week on a high note with three hits and a walk, hitting .330/.440/.381 on the week.
Dodger Pitcher of the Week: Vicente Padilla took a no-hitter into the seventh inning on Wednesday against the Padres, and ended up with a two-hit shutout, so this was an easy pick. Honorable mention goes to Ted Lilly, who won his first two starts as a Dodger.
Week 18 Record: 4-3
30 runs scored (4.29 per game)
27 runs allowed (3.86 per game)
.548 pythagorean winning percentage
Season Record: 58-54
489 runs scored (4.37 per game)
481 runs allowed (4.29 per game)
.508 pythagorean winning percentage (57-55)
Transactions:
- Tuesday: The Dodgers placed Jeff Weaver on the 15-day disabled list with left knee tendinitis, and recalled Ramon Troncoso from Triple A Albuquerque.
- Wednesday: A.J. Ellis was recalled from Albuquerque to fill-in for Russell Martin for what was thought to be a temporary basis as the Dodgers awaited Martin's MRI results. Xavier Paul was optioned to Triple A to make room
- Wednesday: The Dodgers then got Martin's MRI results, which showed a right hip labral tear, so they placed him on the 15-day disabled list. Reed Johnson was activated from the disabled list.
- Sunday: The Dodgers designated Garret Anderson for assignment, and purchased the contract of Jay Gibbons from Albuquerque
Game Results:
- Monday: Padres 10, Dodgers 5
- Tuesday: Dodgers 2, Padres 1
- Wednesday: Dodgers 9, Padres 0
- Thursday: Padres 5, Dodgers 0
- Friday: Nationals 6, Dodgers 3
- Saturday: Dodgers 3, Nationals 2 (10)
- Sunday: Dodgers 8, Nationals 3
Upcoming Week: The Dodgers take today off, then begin a seven-game road trip in Philadelphia and Atlanta (which ends next Monday.
| Mon | Tue | Wed | Thu | Fri | Sat | Sun |
| 9 Off |
10 at Phi 4:05pm |
11 at Phi 4:05pm |
12 at Phi 4:05pm |
13 at Atl 4:35pm |
14 at Atl 4:10pm |
15 at Atl 1:35pm |
Previous Weeks in Review: Wk 1 | Wk 2 | Wk 3 | Wk 4 | Wk 5 | Wk 6 | Wk 7 | Wk 8 | Wk 9 | Wk 10 | Wk 11 | Wk 12 | Wk 13 | Wk 14 | Wk15 | Wk 16 | Wk 17
Week 18 Stats
| Player | PA | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SB/CS | BA/OBP/SLG | OPS |
| Ethier | 31 | 28 | 4 | 9 | 3 | 0 | 2 | 4 | 3 | 0/0 | .321/.387/.643 | 1.030 |
| Martin | 8 | 6 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 0/0 | .333/.500/.500 | 1.000 |
| Carroll | 25 | 21 | 5 | 7 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 4 | 1/1 | .333/.440/.381 | .821 |
| Blake | 24 | 20 | 3 | 6 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 3 | 0/0 | .300/.417/.350 | .767 |
| Kemp | 29 | 25 | 2 | 6 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 4 | 3 | 1/0 | .240/.310/.400 | .710 |
| Theriot | 31 | 27 | 6 | 8 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 0/1 | .296/.367/.333 | .700 |
| Loney | 26 | 24 | 1 | 6 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 0/0 | .250/.308/.333 | .641 |
| Furcal | 4 | 4 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0/0 | .250/.250/.250 | .500 |
| Podsednik | 32 | 29 | 2 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 3 | 3/0 | .207/.281/.207 | .488 |
| Ausmus | 11 | 10 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0/0 | .100/.182/.100 | .282 |
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| Gibbons | 1 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0/0 | 1.000/1.000/1.000 | 2.000 |
| Johnson | 3 | 3 | 0 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0/0 | .667/.667/1.000 | 1.667 |
| Belliard | 12 | 11 | 4 | 4 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 1 | 1/0 | .364/.417/.545 | .962 |
| Ellis | 7 | 6 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0/0 | .167/.167/.333 | .500 |
| Anderson | 3 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0/0 | .000/.000/.000 | .000 |
| Paul | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0/0 | .000/.000/.000 | .000 |
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| Pitchers | 14 | 11 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0/0 | .182/.182/.182 | .364 |
| Totals | 262 | 230 | 30 | 62 | 14 | 0 | 3 | 28 | 23 | 6/2 | .270/.342/.370 | .712 |
| Pitcher | G | W-L | Sv | IP | H | R | ER | BB | K | ERA | WHIP | FIP* |
| Padilla | 1 | 1-0 | -- | 9.0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 9 | 0.00 | 0.444 | 1.53 |
| Lilly | 2 | 2-0 | -- | 13.0 | 7 | 4 | 4 | 0 | 11 | 2.77 | 0.538 | 4.51 |
| Billingsley | 1 | 0-1 | -- | 6.0 | 7 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 4.50 | 1.667 | 3.37 |
| Kuroda | 2 | 0-1 | -- | 11.0 | 10 | 7 | 6 | 2 | 9 | 4.91 | 1.091 | 4.20 |
| Kershaw | 1 | 0-1 | -- | 6.0 | 7 | 6 | 6 | 2 | 9 | 9.00 | 1.500 | 5.53 |
| Starters | 7 |
3-3 | -- | 45.0 | 33 | 20 | 19 | 9 | 42 | 3.80 | 0.933 | 3.82 |
| Broxton | 2 | 1-0 | 1 | 3.0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 2 | 0.00 | 1.333 | 3.87 |
| Jansen | 3 | 0-0 | -- | 3.0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 4 | 0.00 | 1.333 | 1.53 |
| Sherrill | 3 | 0-0 | -- | 2.1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 0.00 | 0.429 | 0.63 |
| Kuo | 3 | 0-0 | -- | 2.1 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 0.00 | 1.714 | 4.06 |
| Troncoso | 2 | 0-0 | -- | 2.1 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 0.00 | 1.714 | 2.77 |
| Monasterios | 1 | 0-0 | -- | 2.0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0.00 | 1.000 | 3.70 |
| Dotel | 2 | 0-0 | -- | 2.0 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 9.00 | 1.000 | 9.20 |
| Weaver | 1 | 0-0 | -- | 2.0 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 1 | 3 | 22.50 | 3.000 | 6.70 |
| Relievers | 7 |
1-0 | 1 | 19.0 | 15 | 7 | 7 | 12 | 19 |
3.32 | 1.421 | 3.83 |
| Totals | 7 |
4-3 | 1 | 64.0 | 48 | 27 | 26 | 21 | 61 | 3.66 | 1.078 | 3.83 |
*FIP is estimated
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BTW Eric
After that first game with the Nats, the headline at Dodgers.com was “Dodgers downed by Dunn’s two homers”. I was thinking “If Eric wrote that, it’d be ‘Dodgers doomed by Dunn’s double dingers.’”
amirte?
Can I get an Amen?
This coming week
is pretty much going to be the real test of whether or not the Dodgers belong among the top NL teams. We’ll need to come out with 3 wins. Fans will have to try not to get too discouraged without a winning record this week, as this is the toughest week of the remaining schedule. We’ll rack up the wins when we play the tomato cans above us in the NL West down the stretch. :) This week is just practicing against real teams.
I'd like to think
we can take 2 of 3 from the Phillies with them throwing Kendrick and Blanton at us.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 9, 2010 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions
If the Dodgers only win three games this week, it’s just another week off the schedule with nothing gained.
They absolutely have to win at least two in Philadelphia, missing Halladay and Hamels.
Nothing gained
assuming that the other teams play above .500.
In a vacuum, they need 4 wins. But I wouldn’t be too upset if they dropped 3 of 6 on the road against 2 elite teams. Again, just getting through the toughest week of the remaining schedule without being tossed out of contention is important.
They already are out of contention
They have a roughly 5% chance of making the postseason, with 5 teams ahead of them in the wild card race.
It is desperation mode, and it will take something extraordinary for them to even inch back into a position in which they are in contention.
Chasing one team is a lot easier than chasing four (I overshot by one above), especially when you play them often
BP's odds
were not much higher on the Dodgers in late 2008 than they are now, no matter how many teams they were up against.
One positive is that 3 of the teams the Dodgers are contending with are in the same division, and will be playing each other extensively from here on out.
Losing 3 won’t put the nail in the coffin. The schedule gets a lot easier after this week.
Hello??
Did you see a Manny Ramirez type white hot super duper crazy amazing bat get traded for at the deadline? Stop comparing this season to 2008.
@soyboquense
Someone will step up
2006 – Marlon the Magician
2008- Manny the Magnificent
2009 – Belliard the Benign
2010 – PodBoy the Pedestrian
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
He wasn't a Ned year
and of course I was the least impressed person with Finley in this room.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I knew you didnt like him
And this list was confined to Ned. Wayne the Winner (Kirby) also would have fit in this list.
@soyboquense
He hit like 16 homeruns in 2 months for us
Plus the second best homerun I’ve ever seen :)
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
I see
a better starting rotation, better bullpen, and two sleeping outfielders who happen to be the biggest bats in this lineup looking like they might wake up.
The starting rotation is barely better and I don’t agree that bullpen is better. Kuo and Broxton were on the 08 bullpen as was a lights out Beimel. Also, there was a somewhat healthy Saito.
by Michael White on Aug 9, 2010 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Forgot how good that bullpen was
But still like Broxton/Kuo/Jansen/Dotel and the chance that Belisario and Sherrill can return to some semblance of form, over Broxton/Kuo/Wade/Beimel/Park/unhealthy Saito.
And
the rotation this season is light years beyond what we had that year. Kuroda – same, Bills – about the same, Kershaw – MUCH better now, Padilla is pitching just about as well as Lowe, and Lilly is much better than anyone we were tossing out in the fifth spot that year.
That’s 2 spots that are better, 3 about even.
OK -
so how do all of these pitching comparisons to 2008 put runs on the board in 2010? Pitching is not the problem today, and will not be what gets the NL West title at this point.
@soyboquense
You talk as if
our offense is guaranteed to continue to play like it did in July.
I'm sure we will improve from 2 runs a game to 3
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Lowe 2008 > Padilla 2010.
Billingsley 2008 > Billingsley 2010.
Kershaw 2008 < Kershaw 2010 (but the x-FIP is VERY close)
Kuroda 2008 < Kuroda 2010 (again its close)
Maddux 2008 > Lilly 2010
by Michael White on Aug 9, 2010 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't know what Maddux you saw pitch in 2008
that he is better then Lilly. Is everything you do based on xFIP?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Everything based on x-FIP.
I used Maddux numbers while with the Dodgers (4.07 xFIP) and Lilly for the year (since there is only 2 starts with Dodgers) at 4.37 xFIP.
Chad, CK and Kuroda are close enough that its a wash, but Lowe put up an insane season in 2008 and I know he closed that year down on a tear (as did Chad actually.)
by Michael White on Aug 9, 2010 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions
How is it if you match it up
by a (roughly) theoretical 1-5? I was just comparing pitchers to themselves mostly.
Lowe vs Kershaw
Kuroda vs. Billingsley
Billingsley vs. Kuroda
Kershaw vs. Padilla
Maddux vs. Lilly
You also have to consider that you only had 7 starts out of Maddux that season… he wasn’t on the team at this point.
In addition, are we going deeper into games in 2010 than we were in 2008? A factor very much important beyond ratio stats. My best guess is, yes, we are.
Maddux for the season (xFIP 4.03 -2008) was better than Lilly has been for the season 2010 (xFIP 4.37.)
Theoretical 1-5 based on x-FIP
1) Lowe (3.35) vs. Kuroda 2010 (3.58)
2) Billingsley 2008 (3.60) vs. Padilla (3.81)
3) Kershaw 2008 (3.92) vs. Kershaw 2010 (3.87)
4) Kuroda 2008 (3.93) vs. Billingsley 2010 (3.96)
5) Maddux 2008 (4.03) vs. Lilly (4.37)
Looks like 2008 wins 4-1.
by Michael White on Aug 9, 2010 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Because fangraphs doesn’t use SIERA and I like the ease of finding everything at 1 website?
by Michael White on Aug 9, 2010 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Is SIERA available only to
BP subscribers? I didn’t see it on Ted Lilly’s page.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Since it’s BP, you have to look it up in custom reports.
If you want the breakdown:
2010 Padilla (3.31) v 2008 Lowe (3.33)
2010 Kershaw (3.51) v 2008 Bills (3.55)
2010 Kuroda (3.55) v 2008 Kershaw (3.91)
2010 Bills (3.91) v 2008 Kuroda (4.10)
2010 Lilly (4.00) v 2008 Maddux (4.20)
by regfairfield on Aug 9, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
And why is SIERRA
now the pitching stat of choice? Park adjusted? Since it is BP related is must be a pain in the ass to use for comparison purposes.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
It’s like x-FIP but makes a couple adjustments:
Walks aren’t as bad if you’re a ground ball pitcher because those are more likely to turn into double plays.
Home runs aren’t as bad if you’re a strikeout pitcher because those are more likely to only be solo shots.
by regfairfield on Aug 9, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=10027
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Whoa
So you’d have to keep Excel open to have a convo about SIERA since its not readily available.
And why not
home runs aren’t as bad if you’re a ground ball pitcher because those are more likely to be solo shots because of all the baserunners you erase on double plays.
JK. I’m sure BP has statistical analysis to back up each of those premises.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
That's a pretty big reason not to use it
Since it’s BP, you have to look it up in custom reports.
Accessibility is important too.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
You should look at more than xFIP
Go with FIP, H/9, K/BB, K/9, BB/9, etc…
xFIP is so misleading when it comes to Kershaw, it’s not even funny.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
I’m also not on the x-FIP bandwagon. I need someone to do a much better job of convincing me that hr/fb rates should be normalized for all pitchers.
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/how-well-can-we-predict-era/
x-FIP is more accurate than FIP at least, but ultimately none of the numbers mean much without a good sample size.
by regfairfield on Aug 9, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Which is fine when we are using it as a tool for prediction. When we start comparing past performances it bugs me because instead of measuring what did happen, we’re measuring what we think should have happened.
It still serves as being ballpark neutral, which is important for comparing Lilly and say Lowe.
by Michael White on Aug 9, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I think they just need to do a better job accounting for infield flies.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 9, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Which they really should, the original THT research says that popups are a skill.
by regfairfield on Aug 9, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
None of this means anything. Only thing that matters is how the current pitchers perform down the stretch. If you want to compare, then wait until September and compare the pitchers’ August 08 to August ’10 or 2008 Aug – Sep to 2010 Aug – Sep.
xFIP is the best predictor of future performance.
Besides, just pointing out that its a tough sell to count the 2010 rotation as better than the 2008 rotation as though that will be a factor in making up an even greater gap.
by Michael White on Aug 9, 2010 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree with you for the most part
but like you said above, Lowe for example closed down ‘08 on an absolute tear which of course brought his X-FIP to where it ended at the season’s end. There’s no telling Padilla couldn’t do the same.
The whole comparison is flawed as they are not facing the same competition. There are so many other variables besides who was in the rotation that the whole ‘we were better/worse in August 08 than August 10’ is laughable. Though, I must admit I’m enjoy this quite a bit.
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Beimel's and Wade's fairy dust don't compare
to:
Broxton
Kuo
Dotel
Jansen
Belisario
Sherrill – Loogy Loogy Loogy
Course Broxton was better in 2008, at least I don’t think he was walking Willie Harris’s so he could face the best hitter in the lineup. Jansen is the wild card and since every start is going to see us get into the sixth inning we don’t care much about Monk.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Course Broxton was better in 2008
2008: 3.13 ERA, 2.26 FIP, 2.93 xFIP
2010: 2.91 ERA, 2.18 FIP, 2.65 xFIP
Yeah
but lately our Broxton is eh and all those gaudy numbers were accumulated before the all-star game. If he continues his post all-star game trend he will easily surpass (in a bad way) his 2008 numbers.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
http://www.truebluela.com/2010/6/28/1540900/time-for-a-new-closer
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Took 2 hours
but I got what I came here for.
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Even with the fairy dust, Wade put up an x-FIP under 4. That’s pretty good when striking out the luck and better than Dotel on the year.
Kuo was better in 2008.
by Michael White on Aug 9, 2010 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions
The walk to Harris
did come after 1 2/3 IP of what would become a 32-pitch outing. Of course he had only thrown 23 to get those first five outs.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Pitching numbers to shoot for
August/September 2008
Starters
3.53 ERA, 1.210 WHIP, 5.75 IP/start
Relievers
3.98 ERA, 1.353 WHIP
In 2008, 4 relievers had an x-FIP under 3. Kuo, Broxton, Tron and Saito.
In 2010, 2 relievers have an x-FIP under 3. Jansen and Broxton. Plus, 2010 has the disasters (over 5 x-FIP) who are still in the bullpen in Sherrill and Dotel. Weaver is sitting at an even 5.00 x-FIP.
by Michael White on Aug 9, 2010 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions
NVM, strike Dotel. That’s only his Dodger numbers (SSS). On the year, he’s lower 4 x-FIP.
by Michael White on Aug 9, 2010 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions
I hate Dotel right now
And its only half his fault.
That is all.
I can't find the BP historical odds
but their low point in 2008 was 4.5 back after August 29.
I found one site, MLB Playoff Odds, run by an MLB handicapper, which showed a 16.4% chance at the playoffs at that point. FWIW.
16 > 5
I think I'd rather be
5 games out of the playoffs on August 9 than 4.5 out on August 29, and I don’t care how many teams are out there against me (especially when I get to play 2 of them several times, and one of them [Phillies] twice).
Also as far as odds go, 16 isn’t all that much better than 5.
It’s the difference, from a historical franchise perspective, of being…
The Dodgers (6 World Series wins, 22 pennants); or
The Phillies (2 World Series wins, 7 pennants)
And, yes, I just wanted to point that out because I hate those Phuckers.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 9, 2010 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
Relative to the whole
It just adds a 1/10 chance. That’s a more optimistic way of spinning it.
Besides, these are merely projections.
I’m going to go ahead and keep rooting for us to win every game regardless of what a website says our playoff chances are. They swing so wildly from day to day sometimes that I think using them as empirical data seems like a reach. I refuse to squash optimism, and would rather remain hopeful until we’re mathematically eliminated not probably eliminated.
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I am rooting for them to win as well. But they need to, you know, actually win, instead of this 3-3, 4-2 BS in a 6-game week. They need to string together some wins, and they need to do it quickly.
Alex says we're winning 20 in a row.
2 down…18 to go!
:)
You’re totally right. Wanting to win and actually doing it are two totally different things.
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You should care how many teams are out there competing for that last spot.
by Michael White on Aug 9, 2010 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I'd rather be 4.5 games out on 8/29
with a possessed Manny then 5 games out with a lineup that has
Pod/Ausmus/Old Blake in it every game.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 9, 2010 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The problem is not the 5 games out
though that is certainly a problem, the problem is the lineup we are using to make up the ground. Of the five teams vying for the wild card, ours is easily the worst starting eight.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I'm not sure
I’d take the Padres’ or Giants’ starting 8 over ours, with Furcal back.
The other competing teams, hell yeah I would.
Then your over valuing our current
team or under valuing their current teams. Once Rafy comes back he won’t be the Rafy who went on a tear, his back is a problem now, he is going to suck.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I'll go
back to 2008, when Rafy came back from an extended back injury, and helped lead us back to the NLCS for the first time in 20 years.
That was Raffy who did that?
All this time I thought it was Manny.
by Michael White on Aug 9, 2010 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Point is
Back injury didn’t exactly kill the guy’s abilities before, even when he was out for longer.
Yes they did
he became average, this team need’s the Rafy before the injury. If his back becomes a nagging problem, he is not going to perform like we need.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
He hasn’t looked very average this season.
Why do we have to assume that someone takes several days off and then will come back a cripple?
What are you talking about?
he barely played in 2008 during the race, wasn’t impressive and made the single biggest error of the NLCS.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
As mentioned up there a bit
I was talking about the NLDS.
.333 AVG, .467 OBP, 4 R, at least one forced error from his drag bunts.
Well in this case
he will actually to have to be good for more then a three game sweep of the Cubs. Curious how you can mention the Cubs series and ignore the failure of the Phillie series. It is like the Billingsley in reverse.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Only Tiger fans weren't laughing
at the ridiculous errors. Probably how the rest of the world was laughing at our base running exploits in the sitcom with the Mets.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Not ignoring anything
Just saying, he helped lead us back to the NLCS (as in, we advanced from the NLDS), and he did it all as an obvious cripple, what with missing 100ish games with a bad back.
The only error involving Furcal in the 2008 NLDS was an errant pickoff throw in Game 3 by Rich Harden
I wasn't replying to you :)
I was replying to some_dude, with this line:
I was talking about the NLDS.
.333 AVG, .467 OBP, 4 R, at least one forced error from his drag bunts
Hey now
5% is doable, Vinny said so.
The problem isn’t the 5%, it is the team. Can the best pitching staff we’ve had under the Ned umbrella make up for the putrid offense?
Quite a difference having a Lilly going every fifth day instead of a weed. Even if that weed turns into a rose after it is transplated to the East Coast.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
They need a 5-2 road trip just to keep this slim hope alive. 5-2 is not walking through that door. Weather forecasts look awful. Playing against 2 best teams of the East. Let’s be realistic here.
@soyboquense
What fun is realistic
Shoot for the moon, we could win 2 – 1, 3 – 2, 2 – 0, 4 -1, 1 -2, 3-0, 0-9
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
being realistic
I really wanted to ask you about your kitchen remodel. I am building one from the ground up in a couple weeks.
@soyboquense
I'm the wrong person
we haven’t had a real kitchen in five years. Our is turning into an eclectic nightmare that kitchen designers would cover their eyes if they saw it. Periwinkle blue O’Keefe and Merritt 50’s stove, couple of 1900’s Hoosiers, an island made up of two buffet tables made in India put back to back, with two different granite tops .
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Me too.
He’s had a monster year and should be given a look next season.
by Michael White on Aug 9, 2010 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions
I think either way (September call-up or not) he will start in AAA, but if he continues this play he will be up by next June or July.
does that infer a spring training with the big club? I forget if he was there at all this spring.
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Since he was placed on the 40-man roster last November, Trayvon was invited to big league camp. But, he was optioned to minor league camp fairly early, and appeared in only three big league spring games, for a total of 3 AB.
He's never ever shown this type of plate discipline
so I’m somewhat skeptical but he is on a walk tear since the all-star game. 17 Walks compared to 41 pre all-star game.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
trayvon
he actually walked MORE in his AA callup last year. Trayvon’s walk rate has progressed every year so far.
2008: 6.8%
2009: 9.5 in A and 14.3 in AA
2010: 13.4%
Isn’t that what we wanted to see though, is consistent progression? Especially for toolsy late rounders like Trayvon.
Yes
but as I’ve pointed in the minor league thread the walk rate has gone crazy in the last month.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
And he's right.
The logic flies in the face, why would you walk the guy before Sands. If you feared Sands, you would go after the guys in front of him and behind him, not walk the guy before him, and then face Sands with men on.
Robinson is walking because he shown the skill to do it.
Geez.
I was just looking for a way to disparage Jeff Kent.
there are so many ways
you chose…..poorly
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 9, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
it was the coffee mug
with “Jeff Kent” written on one side, and “Chapass” on the other.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 9, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
In Kents case it wasn't an issue of being walked though
People where saying he was seeing more balls over the plate because they didn’t want to walk him and face Manny right?
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
Of course
the recent small sample of 66 PAs with a 26% BB rate is unsustainable, but either way this is his third straight year of improvement as Nate pointed out, and will be his second straight year of close to .400 OBP or better.
The best thing is is that he’s improving month by month.
by Julio Nievas on Aug 9, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
He never showed any real skill before last year in the Cal League, but he's proven he's for real
So maybe this is a sign of things to come?
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he was a toolsy late rounder
they take time to develop. he was also learning to switch hit in the lower minors.
what are his splits like?
is he pretty even? or is he clearly better from one side?
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 9, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
weird
it doesn’t list him as a switch. But pretty equal on both, albeit a hundred more PAs against RH. still, looking good.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 9, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
according to that
only a 10 point difference between the two. Now that’s a switch hitter.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 9, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Jeff Kent looks like a switch hitter with that moustache.
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by G.Scott on Aug 9, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
has a 300 BA from both sides
and a over 400 OBP from both sides… unbelieveable huh??
but hits for more power as a RHB
if it wasn't for lower round/ranked prospects
stepping up this year with Rubby, Webster, Magill and Sands, our system would be utter shit lol.
Seriously
Although it seems to be kind of a down year for a lot of the “top prospects” in general. Reading through Sickels’ prospect recaps, almost every team I’ve read so far has had a lot of disappointments with their “top” guys with the exception of the Braves and the Royals. Braves are looking poised to be scary good again.
Your position seems to be the consensus. Basically that even if he is the best man for the job, it won’t happen until June at the earliest.
by Michael White on Aug 9, 2010 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Any word yet on who claimed Adam Dunn? Has the deadline passed for them to work out a deal with that team or did someone mention the nats pulling him back off waivers once he was claimed?
Mostly curious if it was us or not, if it was us I’m not advocating for or against a trade for him to jump in LF until Manny is back. Would be kind of cool though.
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i heard
it’s two business days that are given once a claim is made, so they have until tomorrow. Probably hear news on it today.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 9, 2010 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Sweet deal. Steve Lyons mentioned that Dunn thought he was going to Tampa to get flipped to the Dodgers..that would have made for an interesting dynamic.
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i heard that too
i wonder if something like that means the Dodgers would want to extend Dunn if they traded for him.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 9, 2010 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions
As with Lilly
I think those trades only make sense if they can extend them.
Reportedly, Dunn wants a 4 year deal but would settle for 3. Being that he’s only 30, I wouldn’t think either one would be out of the question. I could see this turning into a ‘Dunn for 1B, flip Loney for pitching’ type deal, but that could be me blowing this out of proportion.
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BTW
link to Dunn wanting 4 years
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/07/adam-dunn-rumors-tuesday.html
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Dunn is a no-brainer to offer arbitration (which will be rejected) and take the draft picks as opposed to Lilly.
by Michael White on Aug 9, 2010 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Definitely. But would we even want/be able to sign the picks?
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Yes and yes.
The Dodgers aren’t required to draft the Zach Lee’s of the world, they can draft and sign Aaron Miller and Gould types.
by Michael White on Aug 9, 2010 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions
The Dodgers will never acquire Dunn as long as Ned Colletti is the GM. The only reason they were linked to him now was a blocking move.
that’s kind of what I was figuring too. What do you mean with the ‘as long as Ned is GM’ thing? has Ned said something regarding him not wanting players like Dunn?
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Showed no interest in him after 2008 and if Manny didn’t sign, Ned wanted to go after Abreu or Garrett Anderson.
by Michael White on Aug 9, 2010 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Ned was far from being alone in GMs that showed no interest.
It’s moronic, but Dunn isn’t that attractive to most GMs.
Immobile TTO guys are appropriately valued these days. Any NL team should never want any piece of the guy, and only contending AL teams are willing to pay for a DH.
I'm mainly speaking about AL GMs
But you COULD do worse as far as LFs and 1B go (overall talent combined), especially with the price he ended up signing for.
As an example
Ryan Howard plays slightly better defense, has a fairly better bat, but costs a whole lot more.
Dunn also exceeds Loney in value when Loney’s defense is taken into account.
Dunn's bat is a lot better than Howard's.
Howard’s inability to hit left handers kills a lot of his value.
Honestly, I’m only going off that one interview of him on the Petros and Money show that I caught on my drive home that winter. He was asked specifically about Dunn, and instead talked about GA and Abreu.
That’s the best I can offer, so my position that he had no interest in 2008 could certainly be wrong…
by Michael White on Aug 9, 2010 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions
The Dodgers are 4 games over .500
90 losses is nowhere near their future with the current team, or even a lineup with Manny and Furcal the rest of the year.
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I would have thought that prior to signing Manny to the two year deal
Now, I’m not so sure.
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The good news is
Now his price will have to be a LOT cheaper than it was in July, and there will come a point where they’ve no choice but to trade him if they don’t plan on re-signing him.
Honestly...
it almost had to have been the Dodgers. They have the worst record of any contending team, and would have at least tried to block a trade for him.
This actually makes me hate the Podsednik trade more than I did before. Since we “already addressed” the need for a bat, we may be less likely to trade for one now. Also, we’d be giving up more for the sake of improving the offense.
Unless it gets leaked, we will never hear who actually won the claim on Dunn, unless the Nationals actually move him.
Right. This is one of those situations where we no more than we otherwise would because of a leak.
This stuff doesn’t usually come out.
by Michael White on Aug 9, 2010 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Doesn't everything eventually get leaked in baseball?
It is like front office types are preparing for a job in the white house.
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Withrow’s FIP in 2009 when he got called up to AA was 3.58….
by Michael White on Aug 9, 2010 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Prepare for crash landing
put on seat belts
remove sharp objects from clothing
hands over ears
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Just heard
The Dodgers just acquired Jose Oquendo to fill in at both SS and C.. At the same time.
Also sounds like a
Sklar bros joke. But you need a partner to say “at the same time” at the same time.
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Numerologists
later today, at 5:06 and seven seconds, it will be 5:06:07 8/9/10.
I suggest having an adult beverage to celebrate.
we all want the Dodgers to win. Problems are:
1. Chasing better teams
2. Chasing to many teams
3. A lineup that has Podboy, Carroll, Ausmus or Ellis, Theroit, Old Blake, Faloney in it every game, along with two legitimate hitters who don’t seem capable of being hot at the same time.
I’m of the opinion that getting Rafy back is not going to help. I’m sorry but I think you always pay the piper and Rafy is now going to pay the piper for the hottest streak of his career. I’d be willing to bet he’s .270/.320/.375 going forward.
Good news is the rotation and bullpen. Sure they may not be as good as the 2008 team but they are very very good, but it is very unlikely they are good enough to make up for the offensive shortcomings of this current lineup.
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Better rotation than 2008 (best rotation since before Ned was around, possibly 10+ years), at least equal bullpen.
No reason not to be optimistic. It’s August, summer is almost over, 50 games left, and the Dodgers are still in it. Let’s enjoy it, at least until they drop all 6 of these upcoming road games.
Would you call the 88 draft a success?
Do Karros and Piazza carry the other 59 bad players?
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Without question
Also, they signed Raul Mondesi that year too (but even if they only got Piazza/Karros, that’s a very good draft)
Even just getting 1 of those guys would make it a success, right?
by Michael White on Aug 9, 2010 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions
You could argue
a draft with “only” the all-time LA franchise HR leader is pretty good. It’s probably close though if it’s just EK.
I forget, isn’t Karros the all time LA Dodger HR king? Dude had some very good years.
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You know what would have been cooler? Getting the #1 pick in 93 like we deserved and drafting ARod.
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I love
How Big Papi is complaining about the strike zone being too big.
“Swinging at all kinds of [stuff]. That’s what you’ve got to do. Swing, swing, swing, swing and good luck. Of course, you have to, man. It’s killing the game. We’ve got to rush as a hitter.”
Hank Aaron should tell him to shut the fuck up.
Don’t some people feel the reason the game is taking too long is due to the small strike zone? Don’t widen the plate but if they go back to calling strikes from the letters to the knees instead of top of the thigh to top of the knees, we’ll have more 2-1 ballgames but they’ll also never last more than 150 minutes.
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Domonic Brown
Has been quite overmatched of late. Mike Stanton is two years younger and has shown significantly more power (obviously).
I hope Domonic Brown flops like a fish out of water
Mike Stanton is a beast, I hope for big things from him.
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For whatever it's worth, (and its not much) both UZR and total zone thinks Dunn's defense at first base is average.
I would say, its only a one year sample size and means shit, but Dunn’s been moved across the field defensively so many times in his career, this is really the first time he is able to play one position all year long, and not move for anyone else.
I haven't spent much time watching
Reds and Nats games, but I’ve read and heard that he tends to be a “smart” fielder (and baserunner), which can make up for some of his lack of range and other abilities. At any rate, from career zone numbers I’ve looked at, he’s just a tad worse than Ryan Howard in the field.
Whole package considered, I’d take Dunn over Loney any day of the week.
The real problem with Dunn
He doesn’t like baseball.
Someone on ESPN recently informed me
(and I forget who, because frankly anybody there could be talking and it’s the same thing)
that Adam Dunn “does not know how to play for a winner,” regarding pre-deadline rumors.
So there’s that also.
What does that even mean?
That sounds like someone at ESPN making up things to fill time. Doesn’t know how to play for a winner? Does that mean he just goes out there everyday collecting a paycheck? Plenty of guys on winning teams do that too.
I’d be curious to know what they meant by that.
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willing to bet
it was one of those older guys who have their buzz words about grit and heart and giving 110% and all that jazz.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 9, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Pretty much everyone on BTN is just saying things to fill time.
They didn’t even flesh it out much (probably because it can’t be), just some mention about “the little things” and some junk like that. I was probably laughing too hard and not able to take it seriously, so it didn’t really stick with me.
Had to do with the Yankees and Rays.
It doesn't mean anything
Last year, former Jay’s Gm Ricciardi said on the radio that Dunn doesn’t like baseball that much. Now other “analysts” are trying to twist it and build on it.
If Ricciardi said something
I’d just take the opposite viewpoint with the assumption that he’s wrong.
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No. You’d have to pay Manny $5MM for the games he plays in and pay someone else to make up for his production the other 100 games.
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that’s my point. You pay the 5mil but you also pay in lack of production from the position. It’s just not worth it to pay him to be more than a DH/great bench guy who sells funny hair.
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I don’t have the exact numbers, but I’d bet left field has been one of our more productive positions this year.
by regfairfield on Aug 9, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Dodgers are 12th in the NL in OPS from LF (.714), an 87 sOPS+
by Eric Stephen on Aug 9, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Like I said, one of our more productive positions.
by regfairfield on Aug 9, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
A big part of that guess was that Reed Johnson played some sick defense out there, but I forgot how much GA and Paul played.
by regfairfield on Aug 9, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Also, a very small nod to the 6 games Manny was DH in AL parks, taking away a shload of his games.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 9, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Heh
It is right online with the rest of the offense (tOPS+ of 100)
by Eric Stephen on Aug 9, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
2005 is the easy guess. Left Fielders OPSed something like .650 that year.
by regfairfield on Aug 9, 2010 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
I prefer to pretend
2005 did not exist.
Especially when I have to remember that both Werth and Cody Ross were on that team.
Yep
a remarkable 54 sOPS+ out of (in order of PA)…
Ricky Ledee (.702 OPS)
Jayson Werth (.636; lest anyone question why he’s gone)
Mike Edwards (.592)
Jason Grabowski (.475)
Jose Valentin (.378)
Jason Repko (.642)
Chin-Feng Chen (.500)
Nobody was good enough to play more than 49 games in LF that year
by Eric Stephen on Aug 9, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
My god that list is depressing. Wasn’t Ledee supposed to be our starter there? Or was it Werth. I too have blocked that season out.
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Werth was. He did manage to have a nine something OPS in center at least.
by regfairfield on Aug 9, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
He did manage to
co-lead the team in steals that season (aside Antonio Perez) with a whopping 11.
Ledee/Werth
were supposed to be a kick ass platoon. And would have been.
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In fairness to Ledee
he hit .323/.410/.677 as a RF and .314/.419/.429 as a PH that year
I think so
He parlayed one decent season into $1.85m guaranteed. He should be able to parlay two in a row into at least that.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 9, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
b-r.com shows Coco Crisp as a comparable, though i don’t see it.
Crisp makes $5MM coming off an injury season, though he is younger (30 vs 34) and is a supremely better fielder who can play CF.
If Podsednik can’t get $2m for next year he needs a new agent.
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Podsednik reaches 525 PA, and has the right to void his $2 million 2011 option.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 9, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Of course, the question is there a sucker who would sign Scotty Pods to more than $2 million?
Its a race between the Dodgers, and Giants for that one.
Royals will sign him so they can take more of our good A-ball pitchers next year.
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For what?
DH?
Pretty sure he still can’t catch.
You’re pretty sure of that?
Their two catchers are trainwrecks with a bat in their hands. If May is even remotely capable of fielding the position, he should be the clear starter. Besides, the team sucks and is going nowhere, why not call him up to see what he can do?
by Michael White on Aug 9, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't know
I don’t really follow the Royals. Maybe he’ll come up in September. All I know is he’s hitting a HR every 9.25 Ab’s and slugging .710 since the trade.
Not sure he is remotely capable of fielding the position.
Thus the problem, and thus why Dodgers traded him even though they clearly have a depth problem at C.
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The Dodgers have been wrong in that department before….
by Michael White on Aug 9, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Sure, true, and maybe in a few years he'll really
get the defensive side in order. But there’s no denying he’s still bad behind the plate as recently as this year…
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What do you base that on?
I’m talking this year. I’ve seen no scouting report on his catching related to 2010. He was a good enough catcher that Team USA used him in that capacity last year. We know he had a long way to go, what we don’t know is how far he got on that road. At least I don’t, so I’m curious how you do.
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Look to be fair, I've read reports that his
catch and throw abilities have improved this year, so there’s that. I’d also watched some video of him online from a few of his games (because I was very curious about him, knowing he’s had a good bat and the Dodgers need catching help), and wasn’t that impressed. Granted this is just a few plays here and there, not the entirety of every game. I’d also read game reports from this year, including one of his last games as a Dodger prospect where he had a passed ball and a throwing error. I know he had something like 75 passed balls in his career (someone can check me on that) but “just” 9 this year so maybe he’s gotten better there, too.
Again, some of this is just from reading, incl scouting reports that questioned his game calling ability. Which of course may very well have improved since they wrote that; in fact I’ll assume it has.
So that’s where I get my opinion on his defense on. I assume the Dodgers had concerns about his defense too or wouldn’t have traded him, given they lack depth there and that he does seem to have a very good bat (again, which is why I studied him a bit more than that average prospect).
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Something tells me
they both end up on the Phillies in the future, and make up the battery in the NLCS game that eliminates the Dodgers. 2015 maybe.
That’s up in the air at this point. It might depend on how he ends the season. He can probably get a 2-year deal somewhere, and should be able to at least match the $2m for one year as a fallback if he has to.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 9, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Ned signs a 1.5 win player for more than 2 million. What a maroon.
by regfairfield on Aug 9, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Considering he was putting up 3 stright negative WAR seasons just two years ago?
I’ll be cautious.
If I’m signing a no defense left fielder, I rather chase after Huff on a one year deal.
This lineup
Will be largely the same next year (barring trades). Ned needs to find some semblance of power for LF and C.
maybe
that’s what he’s doing with Dunn, if it’s true.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 9, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
heh
i made that joke when they first mentioned he’d been claimed. Still funny.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 9, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
He’s already on the payroll for more than that anyways. Maybe he should just play for the league minimum like Jake Taylor.
This sounds like our moves
Trading to strengthen a strength. Don’t they need pitching help? Can we trade Dotel for Edmonds now so both teams make sense?
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Gives them another lefty bat to use. Dickerson really wasn’t playing much.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 9, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
He’s gonna be great platooning with Gomes. I meant that, like us, they filled a need that wasn’t their biggest need.
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Their pitching and hitting has been pretty good though. They can always upgrade at pitching by calling up Chapman.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 9, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
I would not be unhappy with a 2011
platoon of Gomes/Edmunds in LF.
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Sign Edmonds
then trade for D.J. Fitzgerald of the Cubs, then we can have a platoon of the Edmonds/Fitzgerald.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 9, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Depth for when Jimmy is injured
which is most of the time.
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2011 LF Platoon ends up
Gomes/Sack of shit
You know, the one XPaul was traded for.
2011 LF Platoon ends up
Adam Dunn/Adam Dunn
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FWIW
Reds’ team ERA in 33 games since beginning of July is 2.97
by Eric Stephen on Aug 9, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
impressive
since they play in a clownish band box at home
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Aug 9, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Actually CF was hardly a strength
Stubbs has been in a big slide, and Heisey is Heisey. I’d much rather have had Jimmy playing LF for us then Pods. Except Jimmy has those nagging injuries, so I guess the Reds got him for some kick ass LH thump off the bench.
Dickerson was fungible. Glad to see Jimmy on the Reds. Hope like hell they can hold off the Cardinals, I’d love to be rooting for them in a play off series. Chapman might help the bullpen big time. Baily coming back soon.
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He's good right now
as he gets exposure those numbers will drop if he starts to face RHP on a more consistent basis. JMO
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I doubt anyone was expecting him to produce a 145 OPS+ in his rookie season, so some regression is expected. Still, he’s been a solid player at each level and has continued to look good in his debut.
BTW, all of his success this year has been against RHP, so you can’t say he’s just been hitting lefties. Splits:
vs. RHP .400/485/709 – OPS 1194
vs LHP .180/276/360 – OPS 636
We'd also rather see Edmonds
as the LH bat coming off our bench rather than GA Gibbons.
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I hope he mashes in Cinci
It’s just so weird, though, to see him going head to head against the Cardinals in a playoff race.
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Like Eric said, Cardinals
He had his best seasons there. Though in a single moment I do think of him as an Angel when he made that famous backwards diving catch. Best play I’ve ever seen.
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I saw him at a lot of angel games as a kid
and can remember at least one game where he saved the victory with a great catch. So to answer your question, Angels.
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
I was slightly shocked by this
Jim Edmonds, career:
with Angels: 709 G, 2951 PA, 119 OPS+
with Cards: 1105 G, 4356 PA, 143 OPS+
I had assumed he had played more in Anaheim.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 9, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
This day in Dodger history
1975: Davey Lopes steals his 32nd consecutive base without being caught, breaking a 55-year old record. Went on to 77 SB that season. Vince Coleman now holds the record with 50 consecutive.
1979: Death of Walter O’Malley.
Ok
I got really excited over the Dunn to LA from Tampa thing. MAKE IT HAPPEN, COLLETTI!
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Like the new sig
But the Dunn thing is a pipe dream. Why wouldn’t the Rays just keep Dunn to DH, fulfilling his destiny?
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Because they know
that I had a rough morning and they want to make me happy.
Ooh, potential new career choice: I’m going to convince Ned to hire me to go and use feminine wiles to convince other GMs to give us awesome trades.
So, I must go about acquiring these “feminine wiles” I’ve heard about…
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just beat them over the head
with your lazer club. feminine wiles are outdated.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 9, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
they might actually double
as wiles. who knows what some of these GMs are into.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 9, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
We got a glimpse with Steve Phillips
I shudder to think what else might be going on. Ned certainly does like boots…..
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yeah
but does he like them on his feet? or on his…….
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 9, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
the spirit is willing
but the flesh is spongy and bruised.
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 9, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Only 2/7 awake?
You must be in the midst of final preparations for moving.
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Your rough morning of getting woken up at 10?
You poor thing.
by Michael White on Aug 9, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Would this include your dancing skills?
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 9, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Dude, the other day you commented about chocolates
Was Snook’s the store you referenced not by name? I was in Folsom for the first time ever a few weekends ago and the chocolate there was great!
Pretty good biscuits and gravy at the coffee shop down the street too.
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Yes, Snooks is the place. Pizzeria Classico down the street has the most amazing garlic chips ever!
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 9, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
She has some mad dancing skills, it was hilarious watching her dance at the game
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Do not say that it is hilarious to watch a girl dance ever. That will not get you anywhere.
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agree with DM
all compliments should be at least “awesome”
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 9, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Well I'm not saying it was hilarious because she looked dumb doing it, haha
She had all the moves to YMCA like she’d done it 1000 times before…it was pretty badass.
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You being evil
would make you more smooth and able to think of better word choices than myself.
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I thought her dancing was awesoke.
Maddz is legit
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 9, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Dodgers have the weird wraparound series this coming weekend in Atlanta
Friday through Monday. What’s really fucked is that Monday’s game is at the normal time of 7:10 EDT (4:10 PDT), then the Dodgers have to fly cross-country to face Colorado at home Tuesday night, while the Rockies have Monday off after playing at home on Sunday. Why the hell isn’t Monday’s game in Atlanta a businessman’s special day game at least? Screw the Braves.
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wow- that's really ridiculous
the Dodgers have been their own worst enemy much of the season, but I think it’s pretty reasonable to say that their schedule has been a big liability, too. I mean, not only did they have that interleague schedule, but also 3 extra games against the new and improved Reds, the shortest All Star break of everyone (Sunday night game, followed by a Thursday game when most everyone else had off)…and now this.
Well, at least the Dodgers are still in this thing…barely, but they are. I’ll admit that I completely gave up on this year on Saturday, to the point where I saw the Padres had lost on Saturday, and my first thought was actually, “Too bad they couldn’t gain some ground on the Giants.” When I saw that the Dodgers were only 5 back of the Wild Card, I was shocked. Many of the talk show hosts didn’t get that memo, but it’s ok…Dodgers seem to play at their best when everyone writes them off. (’06, ’08, early this year)
I accidently heard about 30 seconds of Colin Cowherd this morning
Complete with sound effect, he said to stick a fork in the Dodgers, they’re done.
Many of the talk show hosts didn’t get that memo
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I wish someone would stick a fork in Colin Cowherd
Btw for what it’s worth, I also bet of the number of times CC’s made a proclamation like that he’s been right about 10% of the time. Just a guess.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Thank God for small miracles.
Paul Maholm has allowed 22 earned runs over his past four starts.
"You can't please me. You never met me. Zoë, why do I have a wife? "
I was supposed to write a post
sometime in the next month or so on how the 2010 Dodgers featured the best outfield in the history of the franchise.
Yet I look today and I see the Dodger outfield this season has hit .269/.329/.438, good for the same 100 sOPS+ (OPS+ relative to that split) as our infield.
Last year, even with Manny out 50 games, the OF hit .287/.367/.482, a 119 sOPS+. If you want a reason why the Dodgers are worse this year, take a look at the men standing in the grass when the pitch is thrown.
On paper
going into the season, it certainly looked to be easily the best in baseball, and arguably the best Dodger OF of all time.
So 2 questions:
1) What was the best OF in Dodger history?
2) What’s the best current OF in MLB?
1) Most likely one of the mid 1950s teams. The 1954 outfield had a 128 sOPS+, for instance
by Eric Stephen on Aug 9, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Broken down by position
RF – .283 / .343 / .480 / .823, 107 sOPS+ (OPS+ relative to league’s split)
CF – .258 / .315 / .447 / .761, 106
LF – .266 / .330 / .384 / .714, 87
The Dodgers are not picking it up in RF and CF, but what a hit they take in LF.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
So, the Dodgers are above average in RF and LF?
Is that how we read that?
by Michael White on Aug 9, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I wonder how much Michael Bourne and his 79 OPS+ alone
drag down CF.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Looks like Beli is back
per Dylan H:
Ramon Troncoso optioned to triple-A. Clears the way for the activation of Ronald Belisario, who is traveling with #Dodgers to Philadelphia
Was Shaikin’s recent article about the McCourtivorce discussed here already?
I read that and it seems like posturing/negotiating from Jamie. “I will settle, but Frank will not see eye to eye with me on my outrageous demands”.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Aug 9, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
but as far as negotiating goes, you gotta start out unreasonable and work your way down..
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Aug 9, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
6th best org
fires manager and pitching coach
http://twitter.com/BrockandSalk/status/20729788652
probably due to their failures in turning lead into gold
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Aug 9, 2010 12:18 PM PDT reply actions
whoa
for reals? did not see that coming. Wakamatsu has one good year and one bad and it’s see ya?
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 9, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
note that their aaa coach is taking over
wish we would look into this =\
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Aug 9, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
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