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Dodgers Look For Series Win Against Phillies

Despite a 3.18 ERA in August, Clayton Kershaw had just one win to show for his efforts last month.

Today's series finale features quite a pitcher's duel at Dodger Stadium, with Clayton Kershaw battling Roy Oswalt. The two just missed each other last month in Philadelphia, with Oswalt throwing seven scoreless innings on August 11, and Kershaw allowing two runs in his 6 2/3 innings one day later. It's best not to remember what happened after Kershaw left that game.

The Dodgers are 5-3 at home this season in the rubber game of a three-game series.

Game Time: 12:10 p.m.

TV:  Prime Ticket

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game of an epic winning streak

by Connector on Sep 1, 2010 10:07 AM PDT reply actions  

Second

loss in a row would suck!

by Xeifrank on Sep 1, 2010 10:09 AM PDT reply actions  

Third

series win will be the sweep of the Gnats.

by LA Taco on Sep 1, 2010 10:10 AM PDT reply actions  

Fourth time I said "yikes" this morning

was after seeing this piece
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/top-posts/the-california-attorney-general-is-investigating-the-dodgers.php

Sunkin costs, again

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 1, 2010 10:10 AM PDT reply actions  

I'm sure that slap on the wrist that McCourt may or may not recieve

will really bum him out.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 1, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kershaw's going to continue the great pitching as of late,

and by as of late I mean since the start of May, and he’s going to rip the Phillies a new one.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 1, 2010 10:14 AM PDT reply actions  

Boo

And you wonder why!? :)

by Xeifrank on Sep 1, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Boo nothing, Kershaw will teach these asshole Phillies a lesson they shant soon forget…shant!

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 1, 2010 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Complete game shutout

Phillies suck

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 1, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you, Jinxing Twins

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 1, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

You are welcome

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 1, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

7 strikeouts predicted for Kid K

(but I ain’t predicting score)

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 1, 2010 10:18 AM PDT reply actions  

Trading for Oswalt would have been such a disaster

He wouldn’t have given much more than Lilly has, and the Dodgers would have been fleeced in that deal. As many of us said at the time, the huge Dodger hole was hitting not pitching.

by Michael White on Sep 1, 2010 10:19 AM PDT reply actions  

Considering what the Phillies gave up for him and the low amount they are paying Oswalt, and they have him for 2011, I would have loved to trade for Oswalt.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 1, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I guess if you think the Dodgers are going to be competitive next season….

by Michael White on Sep 1, 2010 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Number nine...number nine...number nine

Paul is dead.

"There’s no reason I can give you that makes sense. A lot of what I do is a feel thing."

by Little Blue Bicycle on Sep 1, 2010 10:24 AM PDT reply actions  

10 hits and we win!

right Lyons?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 1, 2010 10:27 AM PDT reply actions  

11

Beers I’m going to have at lunch watching the game while playing hooky from work.

Nah…but a man can dream…

by KellyStephen on Sep 1, 2010 10:28 AM PDT reply actions  

12

strikeouts for CK today, against this lineup (per Matt Gelb):

Rollins SS
Utley 2b
Polanco 3B
Howard 1B
Werth RF
Victorino CF
Ibanez LF
Ruiz C
Oswalt P

by Eric Stephen on Sep 1, 2010 10:29 AM PDT reply actions  

Phillies Lineup

Rollins SS
Utley 2B
Polanco 3B
Howard 1B
Werth RF
Victorino CF
Ibanez LF
Ruiz C
Oswalt P

by Alex41592 on Sep 1, 2010 10:30 AM PDT reply actions  

Seriously

who are these hacks

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 1, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

13th

Warrior is a guilty pleasure movie.

go Dodgers!

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 1, 2010 10:30 AM PDT reply actions  

Ebin?

Ebin

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 1, 2010 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

It is Ibn

yes, oh, Herger the Joyous.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 1, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

never watched it with subtitles

so I’ll take your word for it. That was still funny.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

14th

time I’ve probably done that. : )

by Alex41592 on Sep 1, 2010 10:31 AM PDT reply actions  

Headline: "Padres, D-backs draw aces for finale"

Match-Up:
Latos v. Enright

And Kershaw isn’t an ace?

by Talka1ot on Sep 1, 2010 10:36 AM PDT reply actions  

If being an ace is wrong I don’t want to be Enright?

by Alex41592 on Sep 1, 2010 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Number 15 (as I prefer to think of him)

"There’s no reason I can give you that makes sense. A lot of what I do is a feel thing."

by Little Blue Bicycle on Sep 1, 2010 10:37 AM PDT reply actions  

15

starts this season at Dodger Stadium for CK, before today.

3.12 home ERA

by Eric Stephen on Sep 1, 2010 10:37 AM PDT reply actions  

#16

goes deep tonight

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 1, 2010 10:41 AM PDT reply actions  

if it is

that’s a walk-off.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 1, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

or should I say today, yes, that is what I should say.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 1, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Apparently Manny autographed the dugout wall.

It has been erased from existence.

by Alex41592 on Sep 1, 2010 10:49 AM PDT reply actions  

Friday and Saturday.

Saw a tweet pic.

by Alex41592 on Sep 1, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

is she a sideline reporter or something? foxy.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 1, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

She works for Fox Sports West and works the Spanish Dodgers TV feed.

Which is funny because I’ve worked for the Spanish feed and have no clue what channel it is on.

by Alex41592 on Sep 1, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

works the Spanish Dodgers TV feed.

All you had to say.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 1, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

is that a pic of the sig barely visible above the logo or a pic of the place where the sig was?

by MammothDodger on Sep 1, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thank goodness

for the Ministry of Truth.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 1, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

BTW Eric

you calling BS on Chapman’s 102 yesterday?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 1, 2010 10:57 AM PDT reply actions  

What’s more likely:

That the Reds are in a pennant race, have a guy that throws 102 and are choosing to use Homer Bailey over him.

It’s BS.

by regfairfield on Sep 1, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I guess Walt Jocketty is bad at his job is always an answer.

by regfairfield on Sep 1, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

im confused

what are you bitching about here? Chapman doesn’t have the control to be an effective big league starter yet.

by npurcell on Sep 1, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Does he have a right arm?

Then he’s probably better than Homer Bailey.

by regfairfield on Sep 1, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is Homer baily going to be in their playoff rotation?

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 1, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Chapman's

a lefty.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 1, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not sure about his right arm, but he definitely has a left arm.

by BFDC on Sep 1, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

No

I trust Gameday

by Eric Stephen on Sep 1, 2010 11:12 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

3rd AB Manny gets a hit

Manny just got a blooper over 2nd base for his first hit. Sox down by 3 to the Indians

by wineracquet on Sep 1, 2010 11:00 AM PDT reply actions  

From Molly on twitter

as Divorce (mc)Court takes a recess:

Three drafts were sent to Frank the day before the MPA was signed. All three EXCLUDED the #Dodgers from his take.

I’m not quite sure what to make of this.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 1, 2010 11:05 AM PDT reply actions  

Which excluded him from owning the team at all?

wat?

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 1, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

lolz

i second this….

what?

by npurcell on Sep 1, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hah. I have no idea

I have mixed feelings, I know a lot of people want new ownership but I’d rather just see it resolved. I think it can be stable under McCourt and could be really terrible off season if they need to find a new owner (in addition to manager).

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 1, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

My feelings going in but

If he ends up getting control of the team, given how leveraged he is and how much he will owe Jamie, he won’t have the money to build a team. Apparently he is not a great candidate for partners either. I am for lancing the wound now. Am rooting for Cuban

by wineracquet on Sep 1, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fair point

though I absolutely would not want Cuban as owner. I know he’s rich and would care but he’d be the headline maker and not in good ways. He is crazy. Give me a benign baseball loving more local billionaire :-)

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 1, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Isn't this good news

I mean, if the Dodgers are excluded from Frank’s personal assets, then they are community property, in which case the team will have to be sold, in which case no more McCourts.

That IMO is the best outcome, even if it hinders the team for a year or two. We don’t have a strong likelihood of being competitive next year anyways.

by BFDC on Sep 1, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

It depends

I mean, we could end up in a worse ownership situation (remember Fox anyone?) or no ownership/limbo which is incredibly damaging if it happens during off season, as we found out. So it could lead to better things but could lead to really bad things.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 1, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd like to see a new owner

and hope its someone better than McCourt. If there is ever an off-season to be in disarray, it might as well be this coming one.

by BFDC on Sep 1, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll take the devil I know.

by Michael White on Sep 1, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yah that's what I'm saying

people should be very careful what they wish for. Again: Witness: Fox Ownership.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 1, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Devil you know

could get even worse, when he has to send huge payments to the Ex on top of dealing with his debt load.

by BFDC on Sep 1, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Um, sure. But the devil we don’t know has literally infinite possibilities.

We at least know Frank is interested in winning and is not Clay Bennett or something.

by Michael White on Sep 1, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe we should make the Dodgers a co-op

Each of us pony up $100. Okay, a lot of us.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 1, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

New Owner Please

The Devil we know has been exposed.
Low payroll, high attendance, and behind the scenes shady dealings is his game.
Get him out of town ASAP, unless of course you desire more of the same.

by 68elcamino427 on Sep 1, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ted Lilly’s agent says the pitcher wants to work out something to stay in L.A. — and the Dodgers want the same thing. Talks to come.

http://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/statuses/22728872291

by Alex41592 on Sep 1, 2010 11:11 AM PDT reply actions  

awesoke

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 1, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fingers crossed

I’d really like to see him come back. Not for a 4 year deal mind you…

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 1, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

That would probably be long enough

but its all about teh years

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 1, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

by years I meant cash money

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 1, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

rosenthal trolling us

says Lilly wanted to sign with the Dodgers in 06-07 offseason, but the Dodgers went with Jason Schimidt instead.

oy.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 1, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

mulligan?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 1, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well...

yeah, that sucks

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 1, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's really great

I’d love to have Lilly for next year.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 1, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm game

But shouldn’t we expect three years? Ned loves him his three-year deals.

"There’s no reason I can give you that makes sense. A lot of what I do is a feel thing."

by Little Blue Bicycle on Sep 1, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

To be fair

Ned has given 3 plus year deals to.

Furcal (twice), Blake, Schmidt, Pierre and Kuroda. Nomar got what turned out to be 3 years.

But he has given far more two and single year deals.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 1, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

If the money was right, I would be okay with 3 years to Lilly.

by robotmadeofnails on Sep 1, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dodgers Lineup

Same as yesterday.

Pods LF
Carroll SS
Ethier RF
Kemp CF
Loney 1B
Blake 3B
Belliard 2B
Barajas C
Kershaw P

by Alex41592 on Sep 1, 2010 11:15 AM PDT reply actions  

Any update on Furcal?

Or who will be called up over next few days?

by MammothDodger on Sep 1, 2010 11:17 AM PDT reply actions  

Hopefully Friday

Reports indicate he will be on the field at Dodger Stadium active on Friday

by wineracquet on Sep 1, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

No call ups today for the #Dodgers. Ellis and an infielder should be up on Friday.

Juan Castro will most likely not be a callup. According to Torre yesterday he is dealing with “personal issues.”

http://twitter.com/JimmyBramlett

by Alex41592 on Sep 1, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Heard DeJesus might get the call too but I guess a bit later...

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 1, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

What are you Buster Olney now ? :)

by Michael White on Sep 1, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hehe, I was just looking to see where I'd heard it

I could be all Fox Newsian, “Some people say…”

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 1, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ok this is where i heard it

(grain of salt!) RT @JimBowdenXMFOX Dodgers are going to promote Ivan DeJesus in Sept…

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 1, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is Theriot healthy. If not, this is stupid.

Screw it, let’s have Jansen pinch hit some more.

by Michael White on Sep 1, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, I was going to say this in the last thread, but here I go now

Theriot and Carroll sure had a hell of a month for the Dodgers in August. Carroll had a .419 OBP and Theriot had a .378 OBP I believe. I hated the Lilly deal at first, but both Lilly and Theriot are making it look much, much better. Now if only Dotel didn’t suck ass.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 1, 2010 11:25 AM PDT reply actions  

Lilly’s made up for that, though it’s going to hurt if we don’t resign him.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 1, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lilly has nothing to do with it. The team will finish out of the playoffs, so the time you got of Lilly is meaningless. You don’t trade a player (DeWitt) so you get the first oppurtunity to negotiate with a pending 34 year old free agent.

by Michael White on Sep 1, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think trading for Lilly is what gives us the bridge to signing him in the off-season (i know I know, the Blake-Santana mess all over again). The logic makes no sense, but that’s how GMs are for whatever reason.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 1, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m guessing it’s because you trade for players you’d like to have on your team, so you are more willing to pay them rather than GMs being dumb and not knowing who the free agents are.

by regfairfield on Sep 1, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Manny’s day is done. 1 for 3. Single and HBP.

by Alex41592 on Sep 1, 2010 11:26 AM PDT reply actions  

Wow, Rasmus has started 2 games since the 13th of August...that's brutal.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 1, 2010 11:27 AM PDT reply actions  

Kemp (to RF), Ethier and Rasmus in 2011.

Make it happen Ned. ;-)

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 1, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Let’s send em E. Martin, Trayvon, and Webster for him :D

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 1, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also, I see clearly that you want Ethier to play in CF :P

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 1, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

I should have been more specific then

“Ethier (LF!!!!)”

;-P

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 1, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s never going to get a medal from LaRussa like that.

"There’s no reason I can give you that makes sense. A lot of what I do is a feel thing."

by Little Blue Bicycle on Sep 1, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

BYU goes independent

Then gets an 8-year TV deal by ESPN.

This logic means if you go independent, you’ll see green.

by Julio Nievas on Sep 1, 2010 11:38 AM PDT reply actions  

And ND basically said they will play them every year.

As people are saying on Twitter, it’s only a matter of time until Texas goes independent.

by Michael White on Sep 1, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Their athletes will of course

see none of it.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 1, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Free...

Education
Board
Food
Pu$$y (Did I say that?)

"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson

by Ego Crusher! on Sep 1, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

For some of the players

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 1, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also

Now, Texas (and other big schools) will know they can always fall back by going Independent.

by Julio Nievas on Sep 1, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

I dunno why this is surprising

early 90s we had independent supers, then the tide flowed one way, and now the tide is flowing back, sorta.

However, BYU is no Texas, and Notre Dame ain’t what it used to be, I dunno if this a sign of a BCocolypSe or not

by Josie Becker on Sep 1, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

See I don't get that

revenue sharing is the only economic model that makes sense if you want to have quality opponents week in and week out. Unless there’s gonna be a champion’s league of sorts for CFB.

Actually I’d like to see that.

by Josie Becker on Sep 1, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

if you want to have quality opponents week in and week out

They don’t want that.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 1, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

can a lawyer or two chime in? I think Frank loses.

McCourt Divorce
The 2004 agreement (with its corrections and what not) was set up to protect family assets in event of creditor problems. There was no pre-nuptual nor a post-nuptual agreement in the event of a divorce (as far as I know).
Now, at the time of divorce, the assets are very different in value and the proposed split of assets(or NET assets) is nowhere near 50/50%. This is a comm prop state. It seems to me that Frank is trying to make the creditor protection deal into a sort of post-nuptual, assuming the changes post-signature don’t invalidate the aggreement. That seems like a big stretch.
And how does Jamie’s title as President and corresponding salary for all of these years jive with the concept that she voluntarily relinqueshed all claims to the Dodgers.

by megaballs on Sep 1, 2010 11:41 AM PDT reply actions  

hoping he loses
get his carpet bagging behind out of town

by 68elcamino427 on Sep 1, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I really believe that

they will work out a settlement where he keeps the team, Jamie gets a large percentage that Frank will try to sell down the road, she gets some spending money from selling off some of their real estate holdings.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 1, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

In other words, I still think the odds

of Frank still owning the team when this is done, is pretty good.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 1, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

If frank gets the team before next season

I bet he tries to spend a ton of money to bring in players to try to repair his image.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 1, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just what will be the source of these new found funds?

by 68elcamino427 on Sep 1, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Magic

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 1, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or to be more specific

differed money. Lots and lots of it.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 1, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

just what got us sucked into running hard with this team this season.
Shpunt, is that the dude’s name?
Never get on his bad side.

by 68elcamino427 on Sep 1, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree, way too much money on the immediate horizon with pending TV money.
To do other than you suggest would be less than pragmatic.
They have shown that for them, it’s all about the money.

by 68elcamino427 on Sep 1, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Swimming Pools are also important to them

Or to be more important mansions with swimming pools. Cause you can’t put one into the mansion you already have!

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 1, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I read her original divorce papers

and Jamie wrote how she swims in an Olympic sized pool every day and wants to continue doing that. Blerg.

by DodgerSF on Sep 1, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have never been that optimistic

that this TV money will actually amount to more than what they get now.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 1, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Of course it is all about the money. Every sports owner is. So say they do have to sell the team? Where are all of these local billionaires who would step up and buy them. All of the usual suspects are just blowing smoke. Frank still the best option.

by delias man on Sep 1, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dennis Gilbert to name one

by 68elcamino427 on Sep 1, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

he can’t do it by himself

by delias man on Sep 1, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

His bid for the Rangers was more than Ryan’s

by 68elcamino427 on Sep 1, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

If Gilbert couldn't get approved for the Rangers

what makes you think he would be approved for the Dodgers

by bhsportsguy on Sep 1, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sports agents probably not welcome in the good old boys club

by delias man on Sep 1, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who said he wasn’t apporved?
His bid was not the one selected?

by 68elcamino427 on Sep 1, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think its too late to settle. How would they agree on a percentage? especially now that its at trial.
Divorce is meant to evenly split the assets unless a post-nuptual exists. And Jamie will rightly argue that in her executive position she contributed to the increased value of the franchise.
And whose name is on the loans? Just Frank? if so, he needs to maintain a certain amount of assets behind those loans. Could they give her a percentage of the equity AND the debt? Would she even agree to that?
The logical ruling here is that Jamie is entitled to her share of the assets unless a post-nuptual says she has no claim. And since they are so leveraged with little equity, the biggest asset should be sold. IMO

by megaballs on Sep 1, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I get the feeling that unlike a normal divorce

This really is a method to divide control in a business asset. And since she has apparently made overtures about ways to get a settlement where she could share in future proceeds of the team, I think it could be reached.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 1, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not a family law atty

but I don’t think Jamie can have it both ways. This may be a community property state, but the marriage can agree to separate ppty. I thought the 2004 agmt (allegedly) separated what would’ve been comm pty, giving Jamie the houses and Frank the team. People can and do separate property w/o divorce in mind, like if they have kids from another marriage and what those kids to get the ppty. If she signed away her rights to the team, for whatever reason (unless fraud), she signed them away. Doesn’t matter if it was to protect them from creditors. Creditor liability and debt is really what drives a lot of these commty ppty laws.

I actually think her role as president and salary supports a finding that she gave up her claims to team ownership. She gave up the rights to the team, in return she gets (1) real estate property, (2) to be president & $$$ (for doing…?)

by DodgerSF on Sep 1, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

i could be wrong.

no idea what the judge is going to decide.

by DodgerSF on Sep 1, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Huh

apparently the letter J lets you jump comments without marking them unread

by Josie Becker on Sep 1, 2010 11:53 AM PDT reply actions  

J is for Jump

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 1, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

the lazy

never underestimate the lazy

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 1, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

you don’t use the shortcuts? I’m all about z, x is okay too

by Josie Becker on Sep 1, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

That just marks the one you were on as read then nothing else if you do it again

It seems kinda useless

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 1, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah but those serve an additional function of unmarking comments you have read

j just functions like scrolling around the page.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 1, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's good to know, I thought it was x, but that does something else

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 1, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's pretty awesome, haha

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 1, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

o/t

Gurnick article on Arizona Fall league players. He lists one as Justin Miller and claims it’s the Giant retread pitcher who was up earlier. Isn’t it more likely to be the younger Justin Miller who pitched at Chattanooga? Since when did retreads go to the Fall League?

by preacher roe on Sep 1, 2010 12:00 PM PDT reply actions  

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Pos No Player 2012 Salary
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SS 9 Gordon $485,000 team control
LF 21 Rivera $4,000,000
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SP 37 Capuano $3,000,000
SP 44
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CL 54 Guerra $485,000 team control
RHP 74
Jansen $500,000 team control
RHP 55 Guerrier $4,750,000
RHP Coffey $1,000,000
RHP 66 MacDougal $650,000
LHP 57 Elbert $485,000 team control
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59 Angel Guzman rhp
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47 Wil Ledezma lhp
31
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27
62 Fernando Nieve rhp 29
73 Scott Rice lhp 30
70 Will Savage rhp
27
71 Ryan Tucker rhp
25

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82 Griff Erickson c 24
81 Matt Wallachc 26
67 Jeff Baisley 3b/1b 29
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