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Free Falling

Tom Petty - Free Fallin' (via TomPettyVEVO)

Hard to believe but we are not playing the worst baseball in the NL West.  On August 25th the San Diego Padres were 27 games over .500. On Sept 20th they are 17, because of an 11 a 10-game losing streak. They righted their ship by sweeping the Dodgers, but have gone only 4 - 7 since then. If the Padres had not been fortunate enough to play the Dodgers they would be 7 - 18 since Aug 26th. 

The Padres find themselves in a tough bind. Their best pitcher may have hit the wall, and some wonder if he has already thrown to many hard innings this year.  Do you keep sending him out, hoping to make the post season or close him down?

Professional Innings:

2007 - 56, 2008 - 56, 2009 - 122, 2010 168 and counting

Mat Latos looked like he was up to the task of carrying the Padres on his back. Over a five start period from Aug 14th - Sept 7th Matt Latos was simply incredible.  He didn't pitch deep averaging just over 6 innings a game but while he was pitching he was Gibsonish  Gibsonesque.  33 innings, 23 hits, 4 walks, 45 K's, and his OPS against was .501. The Padres replaced Jake Peavy with a better version.

To bad for Latos the season didn't end on Sept 7th. As the Padres started to falter he simply didn't have what it would take to stop the slide. His next start on Sept 12th he didn't get into the fifth inning for the first time since April 26th. On Sept 17th the wheels came completely off as he managed to only get four outs before giving up eight earned runs.

I take no pleasure in the Padre slide, I had hoped that if the Dodgers couldn't be in the post season, that Cinderella might as well be. Adrian Gonzalez is doing his best to keep the offense afloat but he's surrounded by Theriots. Ryan Ludwick was expected to give him some help but Petco has sucked the life right out of his bat. He hit a big game winning home run over the weekend against the Cardinals but for the most part has been Loneyish in his ability to deliver the power the Padres need. For once when we match up our offense with our opponent it will not look one sided.

We have Andre, they have Adrian

We have Theriot, they have Eckstein

We have Kemp, they have Ludwick

What the Padres don't have is AJ Ellis.

Coming at us this week will be:

Clayton Richard, Tim Stauffer, and the above mentioned Latos. Richard had been solid all year until the Rockies tattooed his ass for eight earned runs in his last start. Former fourth pick of the  2003 draft Tim Stauffer had been excellent pitching out of the bullpen once he came back from an injury. He moved into the rotation due to rotational injuries and has made three starts in a row.   Latos will be hoping to right the ship after two disastrous starts.

This would not appear to be a playoff team, but baseball is baseball so who knows how it will work itself out. Once the Padres are done with us they have to play the Reds, Cubs, and Giants. They have owned the Giants this year winning 10 out of 15, and I'll be rooting like hell for them to make that 13 out of 18 during the final series of Giant baseball this year.

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Awesome

By the way, if A.J. Ellis hits 35 home runs and drives in 98 runs in the final 12 games, he will break Mike Piazza’s franchise record for home runs by a rookie catcher.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2010 6:15 PM PDT reply actions  

By break, I mean tie of course

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2010 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

That'll be cool

to watch while Gibbons hits 68 home runs. fuck you bonds

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 20, 2010 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

And I’m free, free fallin’
Yeah I’m free, free fallin’

"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest

by shaqfor3 on Sep 20, 2010 7:00 PM PDT reply actions  

This is funny to me. Great work Phil. I liked this little gem the best.
Adrian Gonzalez is doing his best to keep the offense afloat but he’s surrounded by Theriots

by keithc13 on Sep 20, 2010 7:05 PM PDT reply actions  

If Ryan T would have had the walk-off hit yesterday, I would have used “Theriots of Fire” in the recap headline.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2010 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

There’s still time.

by KellyStephen on Sep 20, 2010 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wednesday Night. And when he does it, I will call him on it!

Eric is letting the cat out of the bag to quickly.

TWSS

by keithc13 on Sep 20, 2010 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is quality

too bad you have to table it til next year now!

by keithc13 on Sep 20, 2010 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Atlanta does not affect the Wild Card Magic Number

Philadelphia could put Atlanta in a tough spot by themselves.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 20, 2010 7:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Tony Jackson has some (standard & vanilla) quotes from Logan White and DeJon Watson on losing out on the AZ GM job.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2010 7:19 PM PDT reply actions  

I wonder how SnakePit

feels about the final two choices.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 20, 2010 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

How come Watson’s answers gotta be the vanilla ones?

I kid.

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 21, 2010 6:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is it okay that I am happy that Watson and White lost out in AZ?

by keithc13 on Sep 20, 2010 7:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Just for selfish reasons. I like both of them and want them to be Dodgers.

I wouldn’t wish a non-promotion on someone that is deserving though.

That was my point.

by keithc13 on Sep 20, 2010 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh

And if I said how I feel about Tom Petty on here, I’m sure I’d end up in “Go Fuck Yourself” land.

:)

by keithc13 on Sep 20, 2010 7:45 PM PDT reply actions  

You’d be a heartbreaker

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2010 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d fire off that one.

by KellyStephen on Sep 20, 2010 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Calm down. Shit.

I’m not gonna say anything!

:)

by keithc13 on Sep 20, 2010 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought Southern Accents

was the Arkansas anthem? How can a Southern boy not like our Petty? For shame?

by meercatjohn on Sep 21, 2010 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

His voice is too whiney for me

by keithc13 on Sep 21, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Urge to kill…rising.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2010 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think the Heartbreakers are good. I’d listen to their music with no words and be happy.

by keithc13 on Sep 21, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Christ

if you say you don’t like Neil Young, then you will simply have to play somewhere else. Certain gene flaws we can handle but some are fatal.

by meercatjohn on Sep 21, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

I couldn’t name a Neil Young song if I had to. So I have nothing against him.

by keithc13 on Sep 21, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

The only thing you young uns are good for

is paying for our social security, otherwise we’d have removed you by now.

by meercatjohn on Sep 21, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

we'll just close the Country Kitchen

then where will you be?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 21, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm to old to understand the cultural reference.

The Baby Boomers have all the power, money, and blue pills, which gives them access to all young hot babes even if they have to pay for them. The only thing you boys have is your hair, and it is our drug money that is trying to solve that for you, because most of you are going to be ugly as shit without it.

by meercatjohn on Sep 21, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hell, I still have my hair

and I’m ugly as shit NOW. What the hell would I do without my gorgeous, flowing locks?

Fuck You Ruiz

by Humma Kavula on Sep 21, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

You’d have to rely on your pitching abilities, John Ely.

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 21, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know I will be

My problem is, I’ll probably lose just the hair on my head. My other bodily hair will remain and turn white, completing my transformation into a “Old Goat”

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 21, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I did see him singing “Keep on rockin in the free world” with Pearl Jam once.

He is a lot older than Eddie Vedder.

by keithc13 on Sep 21, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

In Keith's defense

I hope Neil Young will remember, a Southern man don’t need him around anyhow.

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 21, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have to stick up a bit for Keith here

using the “tastes and preferences” clause, because I am not a fan of Neil Young. I was a late bloomer to his music, and while I like some songs superficially I find his voice and style a bit grating, kind of like post-1975 Bob Dylan.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve got a few things I’d like to get into today and I want to participate in the game thread so I’ll keep my Robert Zimmerman comments to myself

by keithc13 on Sep 21, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just remember

It’s our communal hatred of Garrett Anderson that makes us a family.

by kinbote on Sep 21, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

haters gonna hate

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 21, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

He can write it, just let someone else sing it

by keithc13 on Sep 21, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

504 Boyz already did

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 21, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

i don't even want

none of the above….

(someone else can finish it)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 21, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

I want to piss on you…..yes I do, piss on you

by keithc13 on Sep 21, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

(R. Kelly’s doodoo batter)

by BFDC on Sep 21, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

applause

for the two a ya’s

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 21, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

playa’s gon play?

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 21, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

We almost had a Stanford 2 way star?

:)

by keithc13 on Sep 20, 2010 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Next year, Cooper Manning will be our fifth starter.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2010 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope he throws a knuckle curve.

by keithc13 on Sep 20, 2010 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

We have an office in Minneapolis, on the 21st floor of a building just off the pic to the right. I watched that field being built but haven’t been there this year to go to a game. Definitely looks great.

by KellyStephen on Sep 20, 2010 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've just been speechless about it for awhile

Just another tragic death in Broncoland :-(

So depressing, suicide especially. Everyone has to be in shock there.

Don’t we have a Gamecocks fan around here? I saw a nice post about him on their blog tonight.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 20, 2010 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice video.. showing southern California. However, wouldn’t it be ‘Gibsonesque’ instead of Gibsonish? ‘Loneyish’ I can see- but Gibson deserves something more elegant.

by Freddy V on Sep 20, 2010 11:05 PM PDT reply actions  

The Dodgers counter with the team MVP Jamie (Broken Finger) Carroll
and
in reserve, Lindsey, the career minor leaguer
plus
the home run only hitter, Russ Mitchell
along with
the hottest hitter on the planet, AJ Ellis
finally
home town boy finally gets to be a Dodger, Rod Barajas …
don’t forget
the guy who couldn’t catch so good, but he sure can hit
were he an Angel, he’d be a real Rally Monkey, Gibbons

by 68elcamino427 on Sep 20, 2010 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

When asked about managing the final game for Torre
“I don’t know what it is to manage,” Ethier said. “I don’t want to manage. I will never manage. I will never manage or coach, I can guarantee you guys that. I only think about playing. It (coaching) is the one aspect I don’t think about.”

http://www.dailybreeze.com/ci_16130364

"We were never friends"

by delias man on Sep 21, 2010 7:37 AM PDT reply actions  

Sounds like a helluva day for Jamie according to yahoo.

http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2010/09/21/mccourt-divorce-trial-resumes-as-jamie-has-rough-outing-on-stand/

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 21, 2010 8:25 AM PDT reply actions  

I guess yahoo = fanhouse.

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 21, 2010 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Some great stuff
Mrs. McCourt’s testimony also included more unflattering glimpses of the couple’s private life. Jamie wrote down notes about her daily routine on small index cards — jotting down details about everything from a dinner at Manny Mota’s house to a conversation with Frank about selling a stake in the Dodgers.

On Monday, Susman cited the notecard she wrote on March 31, 2004, the day the couple signed the disputed MPA. The card had no details about the document, but noted that the couple’s private jet to Los Angeles was forced to stop in Cedar Rapids, Iowa — a stop that “freaked” Mr. McCourt out and prompted him to yell at Jamie repeatedly, according to the card. Jamie even had a shorthand for “yell at me,” abbreviating it as “YAM.”

I may have to change my new name to “YAM”.

by meercatjohn on Sep 21, 2010 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm already working on the TV show based on the McCourts, trial and all

Can’t decide on format, sitcom vs hour long procedural or soap opera.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 21, 2010 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Will anyone want to watch a show about a couple of dicks?

From them to the lawyers you are not going to find a sympathetic character for the watchers to hang on to. Unless you create a fictional Dodger Blue Man Ark Angel who cries and sigh’s as the trial progresses.

by meercatjohn on Sep 21, 2010 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

It would have to be a comedy, and bad things would have to happen to them. I’m thinking It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia here.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2010 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Frank needs a loveable sidekick. I am thinking Larry Bowa playing the Mr. Furley role.

"We were never friends"

by delias man on Sep 21, 2010 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’d be better as Scheider from One Day at a Time.

by kinbote on Sep 21, 2010 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

People watch reality shows about dicks all the time these days, alas

So yes, they would.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 21, 2010 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I do not like these veiled shots at Jersey Shore.

"We were never friends"

by delias man on Sep 21, 2010 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Veiled? ;)

But that’s the least of it, all those “Real Housewives” and a lot of other reality shows seem based around dicks.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 21, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

er, maybe that's not the right word all the time...

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 21, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was just wondering yesterday if some thought-to-be-deceased assistant was going to burst in on the court proceedings with some Young and the Restless-style shocking revelation?

by OB12 on Sep 21, 2010 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not really Jamie McCourt

I’m(rips off wig) Mitch Conners!!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 21, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is really good stuff. If my private jet were forced to stop, I’d probably yell at my wife too.

Underdog—I think you should do a Japanese-dubbed humiliation game show.

by kinbote on Sep 21, 2010 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or Battle Royale?

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 21, 2010 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

so

we put them on an island and let them kill each other?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 21, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bottom line, I think, is that a bad day for Jamie is a bad day for anyoen who wants to see the team sold.

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 21, 2010 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

It was a 10 game losing streak...

But whatever helps you make your point.

Oh internet, what a wicked web you weave.

by Mad_Villain on Sep 21, 2010 9:09 AM PDT reply actions  

Also it's 'Mat' Latos, not 'Matt'

Oh internet, what a wicked web you weave.

by Mad_Villain on Sep 21, 2010 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can not believe you came here for baseball insight. We do not talk about baseball anymore. Only divorce, TV and NFL blackout rules.

"We were never friends"

by delias man on Sep 21, 2010 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

and facial hair. Don’t forget facial hair.

Anyone see Jamie’s facial hair on TV as she walked into her divorce trial? I think they were arguing about NFL blackout rules when her driver ran over that pedestrian. I wonder if he ran her over because he had his eyes closed as Jamie was seducing him. You know, she loves her drivers.

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 21, 2010 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

i wanted to comment that she was probably blowing the driver AGAIN, and he got distracted. but let it go yesterday.

"We were never friends"

by delias man on Sep 21, 2010 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

So did I. I nearly tweeted it, but gave up after struggling with my touchscreen phone.

by Michael White on Sep 21, 2010 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wanted to go to a salad bar tomorrow, but am deciding against it.

"We were never friends"

by delias man on Sep 21, 2010 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

they have touchscreen salad bars?

I hope AT&T doesn’t own it, you’ll never get any service.

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 21, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

you had to be there.....

but my ATT service has surprisingly improved the last 3 months

"We were never friends"

by delias man on Sep 21, 2010 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

That would be fun for me….

by Michael White on Sep 21, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

so you did not consider NYG-DAL at jerry’s house?

"We were never friends"

by delias man on Sep 21, 2010 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

I looked in the mirror last night and decided not to shave the beard. I like how it looks too much

by robotmadeofnails on Sep 21, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I shaved last night

Though I don’t feel good about it.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I tried to tell you guys. I even complimented your facial hair in a post.

:::shakes head:::

by keithc13 on Sep 21, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think there’s a nice way to say that.

by Michael White on Sep 21, 2010 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

haha I thought that was the nice translation to ‘Us Padres fans think you Dodgers writers can stick it’

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 21, 2010 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

personally, it should be changed to Mattt Lattos just for effect.

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 21, 2010 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

or Doormat Latos

or Mat Latossed

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 21, 2010 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can understand the post

we’d be irritated if someone called Matt Kemp, by the ignorant spelling of Mat for the name Matt. Having lived in Alexandria, Virginia I didn’t remember how many of the folk came from West Virginia.

by meercatjohn on Sep 21, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s the American Dream!!!!

by silverwidow on Sep 21, 2010 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is Z not working for anyone else?

Like a crack-addicted rat, I keep hitting Z, and it keeps not working in this thread. Just me?

Fuck You Ruiz

by Humma Kavula on Sep 21, 2010 9:59 AM PDT reply actions  

I noticed a slight Z hiccup as well, but it’s working now.

by LA Taco on Sep 21, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

You’re not the only one. It’s adding substantially to my crummy day.

by kinbote on Sep 21, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not my crummy day, just the z function.

by kinbote on Sep 21, 2010 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

As Lebowski is to The Eagles

I am to Tom Petty

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Sep 21, 2010 10:07 AM PDT reply actions  

Who knew that the faultline that would divide TBLA

isn’t anything about the Dodgers, but the man who wrote “Zombie Zoo.”

Fuck You Ruiz

by Humma Kavula on Sep 21, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I saw that movie once

Too much hype; I did not find it as iconic or groin-grabblingly great as many.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

I really hope you are joking

because I may have to have you killed otherwise

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Sep 21, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I only saw it once

and it seemed like something that would be funnier on future viewings, or at least very rewatchable.

It’s all about expectations. Mine were too high going in.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

that happens a lot. Expectations are horrible for movies.

Lebowski is amazing, it’s one of the ultimate “LA” movies, a mashup of The Big Sleep, Up in Smoke, and about 100 other LA movies from every genre.

The screenplay is incredible, you notice new stuff on every viewing.

by LA Taco on Sep 21, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Coen Brothers

I just saw “The Man Who Wasn’t There,” which I found excellent. Amazing cast with Billy Bob Thornton, James Gandolfini, & Scarlett Johanson.

by kinbote on Sep 21, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah that’s a pretty good one. I love film noir and the cohen brothers so any chance to see x by y is a good time. I also loved that the big get rich quick scheme involved dry cleaning.

by LA Taco on Sep 21, 2010 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Favorite Coen Bros. movies in order of most to least liked

The Big Lebowski
Fargo
No Country for Old Men
The Hudsucker Proxy
Raising Arizona
Blood Simple
O’ Brother Where Art Thou
A Serious Man
The Ladykillers
Burn After Reading

by BFDC on Sep 21, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

You need to see Miller’s Crossing, it’s really good.

by LA Taco on Sep 21, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Burn After Reading

(phone rings in the middle of the night)

“Hullo?”

“Yes. Are you concerned about the security of your shit?”

Fuck You Ruiz

by Humma Kavula on Sep 21, 2010 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nice list

Big Lebowski and No Country for Old Men I have not seen. Burn after Reading was easily my least favorite, not just a Coen movie but any movie. I have seen many parts of Lebowski just not the complete movie, and I don’t know why, I’m sure I’d like it. It is filled with my favorite actors.

Fargo
O Brother
Blood Simple
Hudsucker

For some reason I always thought the bowling movie with Bill Murray was a Coen movie.

probably my top four.

by meercatjohn on Sep 21, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kingpin! Hilarious movie… I think a Farrelly brothers if I remember correctly. Maybe that’s the mix-up.

by BFDC on Sep 21, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

sure was farrelly brothers

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 21, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

“We don’t have a cow.”

by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2010 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

“Hey everyone run for your lives!! There’s a huge cloud of shit coming this way!!”

by BFDC on Sep 21, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

“Take that you freaky piece of shit! You don’t mow another guys lawn.”

by keithc13 on Sep 21, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

“I’ll lose my entire bonus check, because I’m so bombed.”
“You get that way drinking ginger ale?”
“No, he was…sniffing glue in the parking lot.”

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 21, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Right

God I loved that movie. Big bowling family.

by meercatjohn on Sep 21, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

We need a TBLA bowling event this offseason.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

We can double dip

Clippers game / Lucky Strike Bowling

by meercatjohn on Sep 21, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

that’d be awesoke to the awesoketh degree.

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 21, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

That would be asking a lot from this cheap group!

"We were never friends"

by delias man on Sep 21, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lucky Strike more expensive than Clip game. that being said, I’ll go for it.

"We were never friends"

by delias man on Sep 21, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Really?

Never been there, just walk by all the time. I expect they have the highest class of ladies to ever grace a bowling alley.

by meercatjohn on Sep 21, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

it’s steep. but its cool.

"We were never friends"

by delias man on Sep 21, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

usually one must go to a bowling alley to meet a woman of your stature.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 21, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think we’d get more if it was just bowling. But I’m probably down for both.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

We should have a Santa Anita night

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 21, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I guess when they install lights….

"We were never friends"

by delias man on Sep 21, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Went to Del Mar over labor day, have never been to a horse track before nr since. I have no clue about the tracks around here, but I hear Pomona is okay?

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 21, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Del Mar is fantastic.

Santa Anita is fairly nice, but very few tracks are as impressive as Del Mar.

by Michael White on Sep 21, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah it was great. My girlfriend’s family friend’s law firm bought out a suite so we had the whole free buffet and drinks thing going. ’twas a grand day. Won like 100 bucks on a 31-1 horse.

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 21, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

hollywood park is fun

if youre into bukowski and like to people watch

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 21, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

pomona is only open during

the county fair.

"We were never friends"

by delias man on Sep 21, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

If we do Clippers, I submit november 3 at Staples vs Oklahoma City.

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 21, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

you have no say...

Only Mike and Phil do.

"We were never friends"

by delias man on Sep 21, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

that’s why it was a proposal.

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 21, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

all proposals are indecent

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 21, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kingpin? With Woody harrelson? Love that movie.

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 21, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hilarious. This is my favorite scene. Only watch if you want to laugh your ass off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izmuHTfxjw4&feature=related

by keithc13 on Sep 21, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe Bill Murray's greatest role

I’d vote his hair as the greatest hair in any movie any time. It had a life of it’s own.

by meercatjohn on Sep 21, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tennessee…Kentuuuucky

by keithc13 on Sep 21, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Certainly the greatest man hair…

The last bowling scene is great when both of them (Woody and Murray) are bowling against each other in the finals and both of them just have thin whispy hair flopping awkwardly all over the place.

by BFDC on Sep 21, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Okay

you love Kingpin, all your other flaws can be ignored.

I vote that Kingpin be the deciding factor on TBLA membership. If you don’t have a sense of humor you won’t survive being a Dodger fan.

by meercatjohn on Sep 21, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

“He’s going to win a lot of political offices some day”

by Michael White on Sep 21, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Man…one of the funniest movies. Love that one.

by KellyStephen on Sep 21, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't see how you relate Lebowski to Up in Smoke

They are nothing alike except for the fact The Dude smokes a few joints in the movie. The Big Lebowski is not a pure stoner movie or a movie that revolves around smoking pot.

by BFDC on Sep 21, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

The plot of up in smoke is clueless, stoned people on a mission they don’t fully understand, with a wacky cast of characters in Los Angeles. But I was talking more about pacing and the vibe more then the plot.

by LA Taco on Sep 21, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m with you…never saw much in that.

by KellyStephen on Sep 21, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

To be honest I did like it more in subsequent viewings

I remember liking it okay when I saw it in theaters but as a huge Coens fan I felt slightly disappointed.

Then I saw it again later.

And again.

Repeat 10×. Let’s just say it grows on you. A lot.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 21, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Two thoughts about that

1. When it came out, it was their first film after Fargo. The Coens will never make another movie as good as Fargo, so if you saw it when it came out, you might be understandably disappointed. Everything pales by comparison to Fargo. I certainly missed many of Lebowski’s charms.

2. Lebowski gets funnier and funnier every time I watch it.

Fuck You Ruiz

by Humma Kavula on Sep 21, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was of the same opinion about Fargo

But as you said, you can watch Lebowski a million times and enjoy it. Not so sure I could do that with Fargo. I seriously think Lebowski may be their best movie. Certainly their best screenplay.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Sep 21, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I love M. Emmet Walsh, too.

Fuck You Ruiz

by Humma Kavula on Sep 21, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

He's better

in Blood Simple

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Sep 21, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Disagree

I think “No Country” is their masterpiece. (BTW, I pleasantly enjoyed “A Serious Man” until the final shot, which blew me away.)

by kinbote on Sep 21, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Re-watched No Country last weekend. Did nothing for me on a second viewing. Knowing where the movie is going really killed it for me.

Loved it the first time i saw it though.

by Michael White on Sep 21, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I dunno

Maybe. I find No Country so bleak, even for them. The classic knock on the Coens is that they hold their characters in contempt… so maybe a movie as bleak as No Country is the full realization of their talents.

But what I love about Fargo is how they make Marge the moral center of the movie. Marge is easy to mock, she’s everything that’s good about the world — in the midst of a world gone mad.

Fuck You Ruiz

by Humma Kavula on Sep 21, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think the book is what made it bleak

by robotmadeofnails on Sep 21, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, sure...

…but the Coens decided it was a project they wanted to adapt for the screen. I think it’s fair to attribute the bleakness to them on that level.

Fuck You Ruiz

by Humma Kavula on Sep 21, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Between the Coens and Cormac McCarthy, there’s plenty of bleakness to go around.

(BTW, my favorite part of Fargo is the entering robbers dressed in black against a pure white background.)

by kinbote on Sep 21, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

a serious man

is sooo good. for me its very similar to lebowski but mostly in spirit. not any direct connection. I was also seriously dating a jewish girl at the time so that helped to relate more to the characters.

looking forward to true grit. the return of jeff bridges!

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 21, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I love Fargo. So many great scenes. When they are riding into Minneapolis/St Paul with the windows up and the guy is chain smoking and Buschemi is giving him shit about not talking…..It makes me roll every time

by keithc13 on Sep 21, 2010 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of which, have you seen our anti-Tom Petty woodchiper?

This reminds me, you must really hate the Travelling Wilburys.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Again, never heard asong by them. Or when I did, I didn’t know it was them.

by keithc13 on Sep 21, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sheeet

I wonder if he has heard of Johnny Cash, Christ they make them so young these days.

by meercatjohn on Sep 21, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cash was an absolute badass.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I love Cash

The singer and the item

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 21, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m a big Johnny Cash fan.

Sunday Mornin Comin Down and Cocaine Blues are my favorites

by keithc13 on Sep 21, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Neil Young and Tom Petty

taught Johnny Cash everything he knew:)

by meercatjohn on Sep 21, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kristofferson's version

of Sunday Morning is terrific. He wrote it also.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Sep 21, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pancakes house

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Sep 21, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s in my Coen brothers’ blindspot too. I could name five other movies by them I enjoyed more.

by kinbote on Sep 21, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

My list

1. Fargo
1. Lebowski (tie)
3. Miller’s Crossing
4. Barton Fink
5. A Serious Man
6. The Man Who Wasn’t There
7. Blood Simple
8. No Country
…..all the others. A tie for last with Raising Arizona and Hudsucker Proxy

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Sep 21, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

1. Big Lebowski
2. Barton Fink
3. Fargo
4. Blood Simple
4. Miller’s Crossing
6. No Country
7. The Man Who Wasn’t There
… the rest

by LA Taco on Sep 21, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I feel ashamed

I haven’t seen Miller’s Crossing, Barton Fink or The Man Who Wasn’t There

by BFDC on Sep 21, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

My Coens List

(in order not of “quality” per se but just my favorites, and honestly #s 3-7 are all pretty close)
Fargo
Barton Fink
Blood Simple
The Big Lebowski
The Hudsucker Proxy
A Serious Man
No Country for Old Men
Raising Arizona
Miller’s Crossing
O Brother, Where Art Thou? (still enjoy it and great music but I still find it kinda thin)
Burn After Reading
The Man Who Wasn’t There (an interesting film noir, just didn’t connect with it at all)
Ladykillers (actually a little underrated and misunderstood, but still lesser Coens)
Intolerable Cruelty

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 21, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

actually 3 through 9 are all pretty close I should say

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 21, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d put Man Who Wasn’t There lower — didn’t like that one — and Blood Simple higher.

And I have an irrational love for Hudsucker Proxy. I love that they tried to do a 30s-style screwball comedy. Sure, it doesn’t really work. But some of the lines in there get me every time. You know — for kids!

Fuck You Ruiz

by Humma Kavula on Sep 21, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

At the bottom for me is Intolerable Cruelty. Still don’t see why they wanted to make that movie… except that it is a romantic comedy called Intolerable Cruelty, which is a fine joke.

Fuck You Ruiz

by Humma Kavula on Sep 21, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I share your irrational love for Hudsucker.

by BFDC on Sep 21, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wanted to ask Marty

What he thought of BBQ King

"We were never friends"

by delias man on Sep 21, 2010 10:12 AM PDT reply actions  

The one that used to be downtown?

Serviceable in a pinch. I don’t miss it.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Sep 21, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

thats the one… they moved 52nd street or something like that.

"We were never friends"

by delias man on Sep 21, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I haven’t been to the new location

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Sep 21, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

The AAA championship is today on Versus, for anyone who is interested.

The PCL champ Tacoma Rainiers (6Org) take on the Int’l League champ Columbus Clippers (Cleveland). The game, naturally, takes place in Oklahoma City.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2010 10:22 AM PDT reply actions  

An AA championship would be much more exciting to watch.

"We were never friends"

by delias man on Sep 21, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ha!

“I’m a better alcoholic than you.”

“You weren’t supposed to say anything!”

by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I set it up….

"We were never friends"

by delias man on Sep 21, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

To sum up this morning's trial session

If you are for Team Jamie – you are having a great day.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 21, 2010 10:27 AM PDT reply actions  

FYI - Per BH-Listening in on the Court tweets

it is his opinion that those of us who would like to see a community property settlement that would hopefully turn into them selling the team got a big boost today.

by meercatjohn on Sep 21, 2010 10:27 AM PDT reply actions  

burned.

But didn’t Jamie have a god awful day yesterday?

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 21, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Today was lawyer day

and the switcheroo was on the table

by meercatjohn on Sep 21, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

I get the feeling BH thinks Jamie is winning

by Michael White on Sep 21, 2010 10:28 AM PDT reply actions  

Winning is relative

She has been able to show that she had no knowledge of events, which is not a defense but it sounds like the document she signed first, excluded the Dodgers and when the change was made, their lawyer did not inform her of the change.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 21, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don't watch much football anymore

but watched the 49er/Saint game. Has anyone mentioned how much Alex Smith looks like a young Casey Blake?

by meercatjohn on Sep 21, 2010 10:28 AM PDT reply actions  

funny you say that. Last night I thought Casey Blake looks like an old Alex Smith.

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 21, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

I watched the 4th quarter. That ended up being a nice finish.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I guess he kind of looks like Jake Gyllenhaal too.

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 21, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

or The Hobbit

from Lost

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Sep 21, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Its tough for me to watch Monday night games anymore

Its just ridiculous with the amount of hyperbole the announcers inject to try and make the game more important than it really is.

by BFDC on Sep 21, 2010 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

I had it on mute the whole time, at least until the final 2-3 minutes.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

seriously, it’s horrible.

They start every sentence after every play with someone’s name and some hyperbolic statement.

ALEX SMITH… is so precise, he’s like a top-flight surgeon. He’s maturing in front of our eyes, here on Monday Night and it’s incredible to watch.

by LA Taco on Sep 21, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Haha

Exactly!!

Next week Alex Smith will throw for 175 yards and 3 pics.

by BFDC on Sep 21, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

but his pics will be digital, so they’ll still call him the new Ansel Adams.

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 21, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Alex Smith is one of the best passers in THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE

by Michael White on Sep 21, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I almost passed out a couple years ago when that idiot Kornheiser tried to claim that this one mnf game the cardinals lost was the ‘worst loss in franchise history’

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 21, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

In fairness

The Cardinals did have them right where they want them, and they let [the Bears] off the hook.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fact of the matter is…..they are who we thought they were. I mean, if you wanna crown em, then crown em

by keithc13 on Sep 21, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of brothers

Dodgers will face only half of the Hairstons this series, per Ken Rosenthal:

Another blow to #Padres: J. Hairston out rest of year w fractured rt. tibia. Played w it last 2 mos. Had thought it was shin splints.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2010 10:39 AM PDT reply actions  

Maybe Happy can fill in

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Sep 21, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Soooooo if he’s been playing with it for two months, can’t he just keep playing? :)

by BFDC on Sep 21, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not that it matters

The Dodgers have played 48 games in the second half against +.500 teams, they are an unremarkable 14-34 in those games. They have played only 14 games against sub-.500 teams going 10-4 in those games.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 21, 2010 10:41 AM PDT reply actions  

Almost every other team

has played 30+ games against sub-.500 teams in the second half, though for the other NL West teams, it is a bit skewed since the Dodgers only became sub-.500 in September.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 21, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

For instance

The Cardinals are something like 11-25 against sub-.500 teams in the second half

by bhsportsguy on Sep 21, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

But wouldn’t that imply that they have a winning record against the good teams?

by BFDC on Sep 21, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

24-22

Interleague killed them

by bhsportsguy on Sep 21, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dodgers’ season in 50 words or fewer:

The Dodgers were a flawed but average team that could hang with the good teams, but then they stopped hitting, and then they could only beat the bad teams, and they didn’t face enough bad teams.

Fuck You Ruiz

by Humma Kavula on Sep 21, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Dodgers season in five words and a number.

Garrett Anderson got 163 at bats.

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 21, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Once they no longer hit, the Dodgers turned into shit.
Ned made some deals, causing more groans than squeals
In the end causing Torre to quit.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

haiku’s are easy
but sometimes they don’t make sense
refrigeratror

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 21, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, Matt Kemp was benched
But leads the team in PA
Still, future in doubt

by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Matt Kemp

will be between 10-15% of his Pecota Card at the end of this year, dare I say he had an Andruw Jones type year for the Dodgers.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 21, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Naw

23 homers alone make it better than Jones’ stint

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Sep 21, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

True

but the rest of his stats are way below his projection.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 21, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sure

but to lump him in with maybe the worst Dodger’s year ever? It’s hard to defend Kemp this year, but jeez, this is Andrew Jones we are comparing him to

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Sep 21, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'll put it this way

As bad a year as everyone else had, Kemp’s was the most damaging because he was expected to provide a lot of the offense.

Now Jones was at a negative value so you are right in that sense, but the impact of his performance was similar.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 21, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Injuries abound
Pitching better than they thought
Offense M.I.A.

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 21, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dodgers fail in 2010
Kemp takes blame from coaches
Anderson Laughs

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Sep 21, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

The LA Dodgers
Wait until next year again
The future, dark

I think i got it right.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 21, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve only read the book(s) so I was curious if it rhymes with Summa or Uma.

by LA Taco on Sep 21, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

As the Dodgers continued to stank
We talked of where Loney would rank
Though he should be departing
He will end up starting
Next year, take that to the bank.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Beautiful

I was trying to think of a Casey Blake one, but I couldn’t expand on beard/feared.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

that was awesome

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 21, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

you two poets

should do a stanza for everyone. Fanpost of the year.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 21, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

What can you say about Raffy?
Whose bat drove opponents quite daffy
He was the best when he played
But on the trainer’s table he laid
With a back made of saltwater taffy.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

It wasn’t that he could DeHit;
It was nobody else could DeFit.
They traded the dude;
The Riot ensued.
Now we miss DeBat and DeGrit.

Fuck You Ruiz

by Humma Kavula on Sep 21, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fifty games? That’s a steep price, indeed.
Now a warning for others to heed.
Be as clean as a Scout
Or we’ll ship you out
To Pittsburgh for smoking the weed.

Fuck You Ruiz

by Humma Kavula on Sep 21, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

As a starter he was too bad for words
Even crying after producing turds
But in the pen he shone bright
So it didn’t seem right
To trade J-Mac for 18 and two-thirds

by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Slight edit!

As a starter he was too bad for words
Shedding tears after producing turds
But in the pen he shone bright
So it didn’t seem right
To trade J-Mac for 18 and two-thirds

by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Won't read well. Try

As a McStarter well too bad for words
All in tears after serving up turds
Yet in the pen he shone bright
So it didn’t seem right
To trade J-Mac for 18 and two-thirds.

by Josie Becker on Sep 21, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

you need a comma

between McStarter and well

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 21, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

the whole thing is without punctuation, though I see your point

by Josie Becker on Sep 21, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Your issue is trying to jam too many syllables into the last line. That’s the part that just doesn’t scan right.

With his trades that were too bad for words
Colletti sure served up some turds.
Though it beggars belief,
Ned wanted relief.
What he got was 18 and two-thirds.

Fuck You Ruiz

by Humma Kavula on Sep 21, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

even that needs some work. it requires putting the stress on the second syllable of eighteen. Nobody says that. They say eighteen.

Fuck You Ruiz

by Humma Kavula on Sep 21, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I liked Eric’s first draft the best.

by Michael White on Sep 21, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

when I read it

I put the stress on the ‘teen’ rather than the ‘eight’

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 21, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Right, and that's a problem.

The word isn’t pronounced eighteen. It’s pronounced eighteen. To really be a strong limerick, the words’ stressed syllables should match the meter.

Fuck You Ruiz

by Humma Kavula on Sep 21, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't

When I count, I say

e LEV en
TWELVE
THIR teen
FOUR teen
FIF teen…..

Fuck You Ruiz

by Humma Kavula on Sep 21, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

that’s fantastic! Oh wait, I forgot, personal experience doesn’t win arguments. The dictionary lists both pronunciations as possible for all the teen numbers

by Josie Becker on Sep 21, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

that’s fantastic! Oh wait, I forgot, personal experience doesn’t win arguments.

Wow, really? That’s where you want to take this?

1) Try again, and be nice. I was being nice.

2) Personal experience surely does win arguments. Despite what the dictionary says, do you actually know anybody that, when they count, puts the stress on the “teen” syllable?

Fuck You Ruiz

by Humma Kavula on Sep 21, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

2 is true

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 21, 2010 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was just messing around, gee wiz : ) And the reason I’m sticking with the dictionary in this argument is that pronunciation is regional so people I know doesn’t really answer the question.

by Josie Becker on Sep 21, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry, I’m just taking things personally these days, I guess. Not just you; happening in other parts of life. Imagined slights are getting me down. I apologize.

I guess it comes down to this: if you’re gonna be persnickety about making sure the stressed syllables match the meter, you should use the pronunciation of the words that most people use. And if you don’t — if you’re gonna use an alternate pronunciation — it had better be in service of a really, really good joke.

Fuck You Ruiz

by Humma Kavula on Sep 21, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

For instance, many people thought to stress YOUR in “Go fuck yourself.” :)

by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well sure

A: Go fuck yourself!

B: Go fuck MYself?! Go fuck YOURself!

Fuck You Ruiz

by Humma Kavula on Sep 21, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

And it's obvious, you stress GO

like “Go forth, young one, and fuck thineself!!!”

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 21, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I disagree, though the dictionary gives both a’ten and ‘a,ten, I find a’ten more common

by Josie Becker on Sep 21, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

T’was Some thought Andre a Giant
He tried to be so compliant
But then a broken pinky
And his pants quite stinky
Made the Dodger fans all quite defiant

by Josie Becker on Sep 21, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

For Manny, Ned wheeled and dealed
But this year he was never quite healed
With Manny we won ribbons
But we’re now stuck with Jay Gibbons
Who can hit but also can’t field.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Get me rewrite!

You can surely work Gibbons into a monkey/ape-related pun.

Fuck You Ruiz

by Humma Kavula on Sep 21, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

When Broxton forgot how to pitch
Joe Torre came out, made the switch.
But we said, “Go to hell!”
Don’t ask Dotel
To close. That is just not his niche.

Fuck You Ruiz

by Humma Kavula on Sep 21, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s a dream to drive in a Martin
but his injuries left him smartin’
as quick as a blip
he screamed “ow my hip”
Now he drinks his milk from the carton

by Josie Becker on Sep 21, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

excellent

someone on twitter, see if Maddz wants to contribute Ely

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 21, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

The problem is not that he’s old.
It’s not that his bat is just cold.
The issue is odd:
We called him our god.
We are Fools, ’cause we thought he was Gold.

Fuck You Ruiz

by Humma Kavula on Sep 21, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Too many limericks -- time for a nice, simple Clerihew.

James Loney
Bat a phony.
Think he’ll start?
Ah, bologna.

Fuck You Ruiz

by Humma Kavula on Sep 21, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is that .500 now or .500 at the time they played said team(s).

by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jon Weisman has a large collection of hats because people keep sending them as tips in lieu of cash.

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 21, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is pretty interesting

They were never swept in a series all season, but nor did they sweep any opponents

by BFDC on Sep 21, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting article

some talk of Sands and Trayvon making the move to AAA in 2011. Wonder if they would start there or move up during the year.

Only reason they could start(according to Jackson) is Lindsey and Gibbons may both be gone from ABQ, with Lindsey maybe going elsewhere, and Gibbons seemingly earned a bench job with the Dodgers.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 21, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jay Mohr is talking about pics of Jaime at court with a starbucks cup with the name Jeff on it.

"We were never friends"

by delias man on Sep 21, 2010 11:08 AM PDT reply actions  

probably the name of the lawyer of the woman her SUV hit.

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 21, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

there’s always that counter lurker at Starbucks, who doesn’t even look when they grab their cup and makes a mad dash for the door.

by Josie Becker on Sep 21, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have often thought of that regarding laundromat thieves; are there a lot of people out there stealing clothes from dryers?

by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I imagine you have to be a special level of desperate before you steal clothes from a dryer. But in this economy

by Josie Becker on Sep 21, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

I doubt it

Pervs would not want to jack clean ladies underwear

"We were never friends"

by delias man on Sep 21, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jeff

is name of her alleged companion/boyfriend/former Dodger employee

by bhsportsguy on Sep 21, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

that is why it is funny…..

"We were never friends"

by delias man on Sep 21, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's a pretty old story

unless she did it again last week.

I really don’t find much about this whole thing funny.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 21, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

i apologize

"We were never friends"

by delias man on Sep 21, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

No need

I should also add I don’t find Jay Mohr funny but that is a whole other thread.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 21, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah Mohr really went off on the McCourts mess this morning, whoa.

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by underdog on Sep 21, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dotel PTNBL

Eric, do you know of a deadline on this move? I believe stuff like this gets announced around 10/15 or so.

by silverwidow on Sep 21, 2010 11:37 AM PDT reply actions  

Two rules apply

1. The transaction must be completed within six months of being announced (AKA the player has to be named).

2. The player may not be an active Major Leaguer player during the interval between the trade and the date the player is named. As a result, PTBNLs are basically always minor league prospects—though sometimes a long-term major league DL player is the PTBNL.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 21, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dodgers & Rockies obviously agreed on a list of players when they finalized the deal. But hopefully these are not just organizational guys (i.e. Jamie Hoffmann type).

by silverwidow on Sep 21, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's not obvious it was a list

The player could just be someone on the 40-man that the Rockies didn’t / couldn’t pass through waivers.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

You’re right, like the Tony Abreu deal. Well, then that would be pretty good (maybe).

by silverwidow on Sep 21, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pffft like anyone would trade someone off the 40 man to rent Octavio Dotel.

by regfairfield on Sep 21, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep flew in last night from my whirlwind trip down the East. It’s comforting to come back and see that nothing changed at all

by regfairfield on Sep 21, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Except AJ Ellis being awesome, you mean.

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by underdog on Sep 21, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am fairly sure

the Dodgers considered Tony Abreu an organizational type.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 21, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hong-Chih Kuo has the 3rd best ERA and 3rd best ERA+ in Dodgers history (1884-present), minimum 50 IP

http://bbref.com/pi/shareit/sPvvd

ERA
Gagne (2003) 1.20
Brewer (1972) 1.26
Kuo (2010) 1.31

ERA+
Gagne (2003) 337
Saito (2007) 319
Kuo (2010) 294

by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2010 12:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Amazing. Could he and Jansen tag-team close next year?

by kinbote on Sep 21, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it’s time to trade Broxton, so I hope so.

(Trade him because he’s expensive, nearing FA, and the team isn’t going to win next year. So it’s time to get what they can for him and move on.)

People don't think it be like this, but it do.

by MartinGreen on Sep 21, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m guessing someone would roll the dice on him. I remember Keith Law saying Brox was one of those guys you hope to get as much out of as you can, while he’s cheap, then just move on.

by oshea2002 on Sep 21, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Question for Eric

If the Dodgers didn’t reach a deal with Kemp and Broxton, where would there arb raises put them?

Are the Dodgers going to be paying them more than their arb raises would have been?

by Michael White on Sep 21, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Excellent question

Both jump from $4m to $7m (Kemp’s could increase with a few more PA this year).

Broxton has the worst ERA+ (99) among all 25 pitchers with 20 saves this year, but then again, he does have 22 saves (and 6 blown saves). His case rests in body of work over multiple years.

My gut says both would get something close to $7 million, but perhaps not $7 million in arbitration. So the Dodgers didn’t save any money, and perhaps lost money. I need to do a little more research though.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Huston Street

Heading into 2010, he had the 5 years of service time that Broxton will have after this season.

Street (thru 2009): 330.2 IP, 2.91 ERA, 151 ERA+, 25-13, 129 saves
Broxton (career): 377.1 IP, 3.08 ERA, 137 ERA+, 24-17, 77 saves

Street signed a 3-year deal with $7.2 million coming in his sixth year of service time. He and Broxton have similar numbers, and Street has more experience as closer. I would say this is a case against Broxton earning $7m in 2011.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s bullshit to say Broxton isn’t a closer. This is a bad stretch he’s been going through, I think at this point saying Broxton isn’t really a closer is just wrong.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 21, 2010 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow

ridiculously impressive.

by oshea2002 on Sep 21, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Kuo gets 5 more scoreless innings, he will beat Gagne (1.20000 ERA to 1.20429)

by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

You mean when……

by keithc13 on Sep 21, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I find it oddly annoying that

the pitch that basically it is now implied got Bills sidetracked for the last season or so, the cutter, is now the savior for Cole Hamels

by bhsportsguy on Sep 21, 2010 12:13 PM PDT reply actions  

I think he just mixes them better now

he still has a really good changeup as well. Billz problem wasn’t his cutter was bad, he just used it to damn much.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 21, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am finding it oddly annoying that

gmail (and now this comment) is telling me I am spelling incentivize wrong. Is their some other spelling I am unaware of?

by BFDC on Sep 21, 2010 12:15 PM PDT reply actions  

probably just too new, not in their respective dictionaries yet

by Josie Becker on Sep 21, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve never used that word.

by kinbote on Sep 21, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

You weren’t properly incentivized to do so

by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

it really only happens when you actualize yourself and find a new paradigm outside the proverbial box.

by Josie Becker on Sep 21, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

"So he's proactive"

“Oh yes, we’re talking about a totally outrageous paradigm.”

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 21, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

MS Word is okay with it.

by KellyStephen on Sep 21, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

urban dictionary says yes

"We were never friends"

by delias man on Sep 21, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe your computer is accidentally British?

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by underdog on Sep 21, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec’d. Very homourous.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you. I specialise in British humour.

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by underdog on Sep 21, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mike

Colorado PAC 11 2011 says ESPN

"We were never friends"

by delias man on Sep 21, 2010 12:24 PM PDT reply actions  

It would be nice if the Pac 10 could just pick up the tab for CU like the Big 11 did for Nebraska

by oshea2002 on Sep 21, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I assume that may be what they are working out.

"We were never friends"

by delias man on Sep 21, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure the Pac 10 is chipping in

I think this is b/t the Big 12 and CU. From what I remember, Texas, A&M, and OU are the only ones getting most of that buyout money anyways, so it’s really just on them I’m guessing (which means it’s really just b/t Texas and CU). Makes sense then as to why it’s Orangebloods being quoted that the Big 12 aka Texas is on board with CU leaving now at a reduced buy out.

by oshea2002 on Sep 21, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I look forward to CU joining you guys ASAP

They can gtfo of my conference, and PAC-12 teams will be guaranteed an additional conference victory a year sooner.

ROCKTEMBER - Time for Some F***ing Guy to Shine
ROCKTEMBER - The month before we play Mora playoff games
ROCKTEMBER - The rest of you can settle for Festivus

by Mondogarage on Sep 21, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

i agree

UCLA needs every win they can get in 11 while you know who is sitting in the corner. It will be their last chance ever at a PAC whatever title.

"We were never friends"

by delias man on Sep 21, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wonder where the first championship game is played

I know a bunch of PNW school fans were bitching about having the game in So Cal, but with SC not even eligible for the game, you could have some serious empty seats if you don’t have that game in Cali, where every fan base has a TON of alums. Could you imagine Utah v. Arizona in Seattle? Empty stadium.

by oshea2002 on Sep 21, 2010 12:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Championship games will always have empty seats. If you are going to travel, why not just wait for the bowl game?

by Michael White on Sep 21, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I think there’s a potential for disaster though in certain locales. I think that’s part of the rationale for the Pac 10 tourney being in LA, attendance is bad there, it’d be embarrassingly so elsewhere.

Of course, they still need to figure out their divisional break down, and revenue sharing (which is going to get really heated.

by oshea2002 on Sep 21, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think they already said it is arizonas. LA’s and bay on one side

"We were never friends"

by delias man on Sep 21, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was a rumor

not done though. The 4 PNW schools are gonna fight that till the end.

by oshea2002 on Sep 21, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who do they want with them?

"We were never friends"

by delias man on Sep 21, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

They all want USC! :)

Seriously, they want a team that travels well. SC does that great when the team is going well (although no one goes to Pullman anyway), not so great when they’re coming off a 9-4 year.

by KellyStephen on Sep 21, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

They need guaranteed trips to LA and the Bay Area every year

Those schools are convinced recruiting will suffer (since they all recruit Cali even more than they do locally) if they can’t sell guaranteed games in LA and SF / Bay every year. They’re probably right.

by oshea2002 on Sep 21, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agree 100% w/this; definitely more important than the fans travelling. Excellent point.

by KellyStephen on Sep 21, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think that's why

those schools are pushing for the zipper formula. It would at least give them a guaranteed LA trip every other year, and a bay area trip every other year (possibly those could be staggered too) with additional LA and Bay trips when they happen to be playing the other division’s Cali teams on the road.

The ACC does it this way, the problem is no one knows who the hell is in which division.

Something like:

USC, Stanford, Oregon State, UW, CU, and ASU
UCLA, Cal, Oregon, Wazzu, Utah, Arizona

by oshea2002 on Sep 21, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

The only problem is that if you keep rivalry games the last week, you have a chance for a repeat game if it were an Oregon/Oregon State championship game, etc.

But with the Big Ten putting Ohio State in Michigan in separate divisions, the precedent is there.

by Michael White on Sep 21, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

The scheduling would not be fair/even if you split them and kept rivalry games no matter what. It would be like Interleague with LAA and LAD playing 6 times no matter what. And we all hate that.

"We were never friends"

by delias man on Sep 21, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s not fair that I was objecting to, more the idea that nobody would want to see USC and UCLA play each other 2 weeks in a row.

by Michael White on Sep 21, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

They'd probably move the game then

to earlier.

You can mitigate the “instant rematch” problem by only having divisional games the last 2 weeks. I think this is why they talked about Michigan and OSU playing earlier in the year.

by oshea2002 on Sep 21, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right. So that’s what you lose, the tradition of USC/UCLA the last week and all the other rivalries.

by Michael White on Sep 21, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup.

I don’t like it either, but if you go zipper style, you almost have to. SC has played a game after UCLA though a few times recently.

by oshea2002 on Sep 21, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

as have both Cal and Stanford played a game after the Big Game, usually Cal v Wahsington and Stanford v Notre Dame respectively

by Josie Becker on Sep 21, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

apples and oranges though. You’re comparing 100 year old matchups to a forced initiative to make baseball “more interesting”

by Josie Becker on Sep 21, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think the dodgers playing a perennial winner like the angels 6 times and the padres playing the mariners 6 times similar to USC getting an easy win vs. UCLA every year while Cal has to play a tough Stanford every year. Who is going to get the easy win and clear path to championship game?

"We were never friends"

by delias man on Sep 21, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

trust me, Cal fans aren’t gonna complain about the Big Game, and UCLA isn’t going to stink forever. Just 5 years ago you could reverse those complaints

by Josie Becker on Sep 21, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Those teams are cyclical. the second Harbaugh leaves Stanford will take a step back.

by oshea2002 on Sep 21, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think every two division conference has that possibility built in, given that you still play a few games outside your division

by Josie Becker on Sep 21, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought the entire Bay area only had ONE HS to recruit from!

"We were never friends"

by delias man on Sep 21, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

since realistically

most one time major sporting events lose money for the host, and we’re not dealing with pro cities trying to promote a new stadium, I don’t think rotation will be so much a factor as maximizing profit for effective sharing will be.

by Josie Becker on Sep 21, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good point

How they’re going to share it will be a nightmare though. SC and UCLA aren’t going to want to divide it all evenly. I see both sides here. Normally I’m for conf. members splitting stuff evenly, like the Big 10 does, but (yes, I am biased here) the Pac 10 isn’t really the same as the Big 10.

by oshea2002 on Sep 21, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it should rotate, but they do not do that for MBB tournament. Phoenix, Seattle, Rose Bowl, and new 49er stadium would work for me

"We were never friends"

by delias man on Sep 21, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Big 12 and ACC rotate. SEC is always at the Georgia Dome.

by Michael White on Sep 21, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Big 12 did rotate

Till Texas got them to commit to Jerry World for like 5 straight years. Another reason Nebraska left. Doesn’t matter now.

by oshea2002 on Sep 21, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why not play it there? I may bust a nut just walking in the door of that place. Looks so tight.

"We were never friends"

by delias man on Sep 21, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because as soon as Texas is not in the title game, the stadium will be half full.

by Michael White on Sep 21, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seattle, AZ, and Denver all have relatively new NFL stadiums. The smart money says it’s those 3 to start off with, throw the Rose Bowl or Colliseum in there to appease the LA base and you’ve got your first 4 years covered.

by KellyStephen on Sep 21, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

AZ isn’t bad b/c people can drive, I just think the Pac 10 needs to be cognizant of the fact that many of these fan bases don’t travel at all. At least if you throw the game in So Cal, it’s 1) easiest / cheapest to get there, and 2) there are like 25 million people to draw from

by oshea2002 on Sep 21, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I view conference title games as a “made for TV” event anyway. No need for enormous state of the art venues.

by Michael White on Sep 21, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

In that case stick it in the middle. Oakland Coliseum. Done.

"We were never friends"

by delias man on Sep 21, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

With the caveat

that whoever the designated home team is has to have their fans act like Raider fans

by oshea2002 on Sep 21, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was gonna make a “as long as it’s not in that toilet bowl called Oakland Coliseum” comment earlier, just to razzle you, but I thought, no that’s mean and uncalled for.

by Josie Becker on Sep 21, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wait, someone actually reads my tweets?

I will never deny that the place is a total dump. I hate the facility. When it rains…. I can not even describe it.

"We were never friends"

by delias man on Sep 21, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

What’s the word, are the 49ers building a new stadium in Santa Clara?

by Michael White on Sep 21, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I heard it was voted yes, but something came up after that. have not really followed it.

"We were never friends"

by delias man on Sep 21, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Measure J was approved by the voters; the 49ers and County of Santa Clara now need to raise $937 million for the stadium, construction of which is scheduled to begin in 2012. If construction proceeds on time, the stadium is scheduled to be ready in 2014.

That’s as much as I know

by Josie Becker on Sep 21, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m cool with that. I just don’t want the clear perennial powerhouse to have an extra home game every year.

by Michael White on Sep 21, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Let’s just stop at Utah v. Arizona. And no, I can’t imagine that. :)

And don’t forget, we’re appealing the 2nd year ban, damnit!

by KellyStephen on Sep 21, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think there's a better chance of a scholly reduction than getting that year back

We’ll see. I’ve heard both very optimistic, and very pessimistic predictions for the appeal.

by oshea2002 on Sep 21, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Alas, as much as I hope otherwise,I think the smart money is on “no fucking way”.

by KellyStephen on Sep 21, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just keep telling myself there has to be a method to Haden’s madness.

by oshea2002 on Sep 21, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

His public stance on all of this. He’s almost admitted to stuff the NCAA didn’t even allege.

by oshea2002 on Sep 21, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nah…he’s a lawyer and he’s been very coy. He’s just bending over backwards saying all the right things so he has a better case for the appeal. They said “no contact with Bush”, so he wouldn’t answer his calls. Pretty funny.

by KellyStephen on Sep 21, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think so too. I have heard from some pretty connected people that this whole “we screwed up”, smiling and contrite attitude is going to do a 180 if the appeal isn’t successful.

by oshea2002 on Sep 21, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you lose the appeal, blame Garrett and other USC program honchos

seems to be hitting these penalties hard if you don’t penalize yourself , look at what Tennessee did to its basketball team. too bad USC did not do some self-imposed football penalties before the report came out, they probably could saved a year or two off probation and maybe that 2nd bowl year and schollie reductions.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 21, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

USC still maintain their innocence. Why would they self-impose themselves for something they don’t believe is true?

by Julio Nievas on Sep 21, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

B/c you should have the foresight to see what’s coming down the road.

They already had the NCAA’s notice of allegations. They should have known the NCAA was going to claim that they thought McNair knew. I know SC thinks they never proved that (and they clearly didn’t), but this isn’t court.

by oshea2002 on Sep 21, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

this isn’t court

That’s where I get confused a bit.

by Julio Nievas on Sep 21, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

If they'd self imposed last year

which they should have the second they lost to Stanford, that would have been it.

That LA Mag article said that was Carroll’s decision, that MG was pushing to self impose.

by oshea2002 on Sep 21, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I find this interesting but perhaps it means nothing

USC’s total margin of victory for their first 3 game this year is 27 points, lowest total since 2002.

2009 – 53
2008 – 71
2007 – 79
2006 – 71
2005 – 131
2004 – 92
2003 – 69
2002 – 37

by bhsportsguy on Sep 21, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

And if they lose in Pullman

I think Lane can just pack up the bus and go North.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 21, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

well

at least dropping in the polls would make sense

by bhsportsguy on Sep 21, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

At this rate, if SC started like 9-0 they’d be unranked

by oshea2002 on Sep 21, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

If we fail to beat the Cougars by more than 14 points, I’ll break my hand by punching something I am not supposed to..

by Julio Nievas on Sep 21, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Come on Oshea

You know we don’t have a snowball’s chance in hell to get it reduced…

by Julio Nievas on Sep 21, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Come on Oshea

don’t you say what I mean
At this moment
You mean everything

by Josie Becker on Sep 21, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think the odds are good

They key things would be
1) Dee said the 2 year bowl ban was based on 2 years of Bush being ineligible for bowl games. So if you could clear 2004, then the NCAA sort of has to give you that one back, no? (still think virtually no shot).
2) Scholarships. That one was way more arbitrary, and I think the NCAA actually may reduce that to the Bama number (like 21 or 20).

by oshea2002 on Sep 21, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

From today's Bleacher Report

It’s already rumored that Mattingly has asked third base coach Larry Bowa to become the club’s bench coach next year, and based on Bowa’s past personality issues and his ongoing conflicts with several players on the team, this move could very well be adding fuel to the fire.bq.

also from today’s Bleacher Report

Boxing great turned superstar promoter Oscar De La Hoya said that it “wouldn’t be difficult at all” for him to put together a group to buy the Los Angeles Dodgers. bq.

by DodgerSF on Sep 21, 2010 12:51 PM PDT reply actions  

In short

Never quote anything from “Bleacher Report”

by Julio Nievas on Sep 21, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bleacher Report

Fulfilling the “Teenage guys in their parents basement” stereotype about bloggers. In this case, true.

Why oh why does Google consider BR to be “News” site?

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by underdog on Sep 21, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

LMFAO at the De La Hoya quote.

by Michael White on Sep 21, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would want Oscar to sing the natl anthem and GBA every home game.

"We were never friends"

by delias man on Sep 21, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s absurdly arrogant. He has no idea of the purchase price, yet he’s confident raising that amount of money would be no problem.

by Michael White on Sep 21, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m confident that De La Hoya has a shitload of money.

by regfairfield on Sep 21, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

He does, but he’d still need a shitload more to buy the Dodgers. He is very well connected in this town though.

by LA Taco on Sep 21, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s just a throwaway comment. He’s a PR guy. Even if he has the money, I can’t imagine him sinking a ton of his own personal money into buying the Dodgers. That’s not his business and I don’t see why De La Hoya should be considered some ideal candidate to buy the Dodgers. I thought everybody wanted some billionaire who will spend whatever necessary to field a winner, losses be damned? Even if that guy probably doesn’t exist.

by Michael White on Sep 21, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Plus, think about the message it would send about bench-clearing brawls…

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Sep 21, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

De La Hoya buying the team could lead to a De La Hoya vs. “The Worlds Strongest Man” Mariusz Pudzianowski MMA match at Dodger Stadium. No other buyer can offer that.

by regfairfield on Sep 21, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wasn’t arguing with you, just replying to Regfairfield. I agree he’s just trying to get his name in the paper.

by LA Taco on Sep 21, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

trying

And succeeding!

Fuck You Ruiz

by Humma Kavula on Sep 21, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was on an historical tour of Pasadena awhile go

and his property had some significance to the subject matter but he wouldn’t let anyone on the grounds.

Dick

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Sep 21, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

his property

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 21, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck him anyway

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Sep 21, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is sad that two sports institutions

will probably find their immediate futures not decided on the playing field but by arbiter of justice, one bound by law, the other bound by their complex set of rules.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 21, 2010 1:13 PM PDT reply actions  

I am actually attending the next two games in person

When I sort of backloaded my tickets this season, I expected these games to be meaningful for the Dodgers, not for just for their opposition. Well, maybe Bills or Lills will make a run at a no-hitter or something. Or John Lindsey will homer off Clay Dick.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 21, 2010 1:27 PM PDT reply actions  

My daughters are going tonight. Just can’t stomach the thought myself. I hate that.

by KellyStephen on Sep 21, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

My personal record for Dodger games attended has come in a crap year.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ditto me.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 21, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am pretty sure I am under .500 too

though I did do better selling the seats than I anticipated

by bhsportsguy on Sep 21, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Dodgers are 11-10 with me in the house this year

by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I haven't

actually sat down and figured out my record. I was at the Mattingly two visits to the mound game though, so that felt like two losses. I’m 1-0 in the press box though!

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 21, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I only went to one one game besides the TBLA nights

and that was the game Kershaw was creamed. I had not been to less then 30 games since McCourt bought the team.

by meercatjohn on Sep 21, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are they going just for the Andre fleece blanket?

(Cue Josie in 3, 2, 1…)

by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

PLEASE!!!!!!

Someone get that fleece blanket for me? I’d do it myself, but I’m gonna be in class. Please oh please oh please

by Josie Becker on Sep 21, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 21, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I could get you one but I prefer to keep my job. Besides, they are really Angel themed.

"We were never friends"

by delias man on Sep 21, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

One of the reasons

my wife is going. She is a little disappointed the blanket does not feature his visage.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 21, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

OMG!

Could you imagine? Cuddling up in Andre’s arms every night. /swoon

by Josie Becker on Sep 21, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did you mount the poster of him

over your bed?

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 21, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Define "Mount"

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Sep 21, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice

No, I put him on my closet door so I approach him nekkid everyday

by Josie Becker on Sep 21, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

and Thursday too, right?

by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, as a fan the next two nights

in the press box on Thursday. The readers will be further punished by reading my prose about the Dodgers rather than Eric’s.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 21, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s okay with me. Dude is just a hater these days anyway.

by KellyStephen on Sep 21, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am of the opinion that something is physically wrong with Broxton

and that he is hiding it. The Dodgers are out of it; they should just shut him down, let him get into his off-season regime, and pick it back up in the spring.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 21, 2010 1:28 PM PDT reply actions  

If you get a chance

stop by my seats on Thursday, I will be making a rare appearance at the game.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 21, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Will do.

Shouldn’t be a problem.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 21, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Let’s hope you meant “off-season regiment” and that Broxton is not planning a coup of some central American country or something.

But what exactly is that regiment? Eat everything in sight?

I, for one, don’t think he’s dead yet. But I would like to see him work on some conditioning.

by KellyStephen on Sep 21, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

That country is so small, Broxton alone could beat the crap out of it in a war.

Well, I meant “regimen”. Mind working faster and making the fingers skip a letter.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 21, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I saw/heard two interesting things in Las Vegas this weekend

1. At a sports memorabilia shop at The Forum at Caesar’s, Pete Rose was appearing and signing stuff for a fee. No one was at the table. Las Vegas does seem like Pete’s kind of town though.

2. Mariachis singing “Another Brick in the Wall” and “Don’t Stop Believing”. The former had my wife and me cracking up.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 21, 2010 1:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Was his new GF with him?

by KellyStephen on Sep 21, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

He seemed to be

alone.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 21, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I believe

Pete is there all the time, I think he will sign a ball saying I bet on baseball for a fee

by bhsportsguy on Sep 21, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hasn’t he also signed The Dowd Report?

by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would love to hear this

Mariachis singing "Another Brick in the Wall"

by BFDC on Sep 21, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

It really was hilarious

They sang it to a table of six young girls who were below drinking age, judging by their table. Maybe Eight-EEN.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 21, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

He gets paid an absolute shit ton of money to do that. Its sort of insane, considering that you can get a Rose Ball for like $40.

by UCLADodger32 on Sep 21, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Felipe Lopez

Cards sent his ass home for the rest of the season.

by silverwidow on Sep 21, 2010 1:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Ominous Tweet

molly_knight
Due to health reasons, Larry Silverstein has been excused for the day.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 21, 2010 1:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Ominous Tweet

is a great name for a band.

Fuck You Ruiz

by Humma Kavula on Sep 21, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

He came down with a case of amnesia.

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 21, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seems to be going around in that courtroom.

by KellyStephen on Sep 21, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

does it?

I don’t recall

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 21, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

What were we talking about?

by KellyStephen on Sep 21, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you refresh the page

Can you see the 2011 payroll column on the right payroll sidebar? I only added Kemp and Broxton, just to see if it would show up.

Let me know if you can see it, and what browser you are using.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2010 1:56 PM PDT reply actions  

yes

firefox

"We were never friends"

by delias man on Sep 21, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can see! I can see!

IE8.

by KellyStephen on Sep 21, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

On the Browser That Tries the Souls of Hearty Men.

aka IE.

Fuck You Ruiz

by Humma Kavula on Sep 21, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

In retrospect

I wish I’d called it “The Browser of Choice for Carlos Ruiz.”

Fuck You Ruiz

by Humma Kavula on Sep 21, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I only see the 2010 Payroll list.

IE 7

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 21, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Scratch that

I’m just Troy Percival blind mixed with Jose Offerman stupid right now.

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 21, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

Using Firefox.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 21, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Canna see it

and I’m on Chrome

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Sep 21, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

My IE is screaming

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 21, 2010 2:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Eric

so far this conference call is all technical difficulties. It’s kind of funny in a way. They made a big deal of it being the game of the week on ESPN2 and everything and ten minutes in and all we’ve gotten are bits of classical music and coaches on cell phones talking gibberish.

My other other gig tells me that NBC Sports is having a conference call about their golf coverage over the weekend, maybe I’ll try that one out. /not

by Josie Becker on Sep 21, 2010 2:11 PM PDT reply actions  

now it’s rolling. It’s actually quite brilliant. It’s done through a third party company who do only conference calls, and it’s a great way to do a pre-game press conference without having to gather everyone together

by Josie Becker on Sep 21, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I read that Don Hutson was just as good, for his time, as Jerry Rice.

True?

by silverwidow on Sep 21, 2010 2:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Andy Reid just did a 180, and is going back to Vick

by oshea2002 on Sep 21, 2010 2:44 PM PDT reply actions  

In dog degrees, that’s a 25.7

by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Vick would know.

Fuck You Ruiz

by Humma Kavula on Sep 21, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Everyone was bashing him for rejecting Vick’s success and starting Kolb to justify trading Donovan. Those same people will bash him for being a flip-flopper when Vick struggles this week. He should talk to Phil about what it’s like to be a blogger.

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 21, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

A.J. Hinch

now a Padre (VP of pro scouting), per Jack Cronin of 1090 radio

by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2010 2:45 PM PDT reply actions  

<3

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 21, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

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