Dodgers Try To Avoid Padres Sweep - Again
by David Young on Sep 23, 2010 4:04 PM PDT
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The putrid refrain of "the offense stinks" may be growing tired, but it is no less true, especially against the Padres who have held the Dodger bats to a mere four runs in their last six contests. Joe Torre was quoted saying the "turning point" to the season was losing two games in Colorado to finish the late August road trip. Over the last 23 games, going back to those two losses to the Rockies, the Dodgers have scored five or more runs in a game exactly four times, and they lost the two games when they scored exactly five runs. Perhaps a potentially tiring Mat Latos will cure what ails the Los Angeles lumber.
Notes:
- Jamey Carroll was presented his Roy Campanella Award by Joni Campanella Roan, daughter of the Hall of Fame Dodger catcher. The Dodger Dream Foundation contributes annually to support the Roy and Roxie Campanella Physical Therapy Scholarship Endowment at Cal State Northridge University.
- According to the Dodgers' game notes, "Since coming to Los Angeles , today is the first-ever day the Dodgers have owned a 73-79 record." That's a nice way of putting it.
- Hiroki Kuroda, tonight's starter, is only 1 1/3 innings from tying his personal best for innings pitched in a season.
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He’s probably got a lot of room up there tonight
by KellyStephen on Sep 23, 2010 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
T.J. Simers in the house, for some reason
There is also Japanese media here for the Kuroda start.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
How many charities do the Dodgers have?
Dream – I thought they were about building ball parks and setting the record for highest overhead compared to revenue in the history of a foundation
Think Cure – City of Hope, let us hope no shenanigans are going on here
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
The NL West seems to be full of un realized expectations this summer
Kemp, Loney, Upton, Drew, Reynolds, Panda, Hawpe, Helton, Iannetta
but the Rockies and Giants are loaded with players who exceeded expectations and we have no one.
Huff, Posey, Torres, Uribe, Cargo, Tulo, Olivo. Seems like a start to an interesting column.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I’d go with Kuo and Kuroda (at least health wise) as well
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2010 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
You guys might notice I have no pitchers on my list
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National League Owns American League in One Regard
Hanley Ramirez and Troy Tulowitzki play the role of Shortstop #1 and #2. If you go by offensive numbers of shortstops with 250+ plate appearances, then Rafael Furcal and Stephen Drew are the next two, with Jose Reyes, Alex Gonzalez, Starlin Castro, Jamey Carroll (clearly he’s hit decently while playing short), and Ian Desmond making up the top nine. The American League’s first entry comes at 10, with Alexei Ramirez.
My late season trades
for Jeter/Berkman have crashed my roto season.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I saw that Berkman hit his first HR with the yankees the other night. Somewhere around 32 games.
James Loney thinks that sucks
Ha Ha
and that is with the generous Yankee Stadium fences.
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I was blown away to say the least. I guess he really sucks now.
I need to investigate his Yankee numbers.
Complete Story at 10!
I think that walking ability
is worth another 15 Million. Sign me up so I can watch him hit .230/.370./370
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We can get that line from Loney for $7M a year.
Then we can put the rest of that $15M in on a deal that brings Beltre back to LA.
Where he goes off and hits .265 and 18 bombs!
If James could give us that .370 OBP he might
catch a break.
I think anyone can do that line for $1 Million and that is all I’d pay for it.
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Wow
I’d expect 2nd base to be the reverse except Aaron Hill sucked and Kinsler was hurt most of the year.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Long way from the AL dominance with hitting SS like Tejada, Jeter, Nomar and ARod.
by Michael White on Sep 23, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Ain't it though
When Jamey makes the top ten things have changed.
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Padres lineup
from Corey Brock / MLB.com:
Venable LF
Eckstein 2B
Tejada SS
Gonzalez 1B
Ludwick RF
Headley 3B
Hundley C
Gwynn CF
Latos P
I thought Gwynn’s hand was broken?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 23, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
If this was the Dodgers the run scored
expectation would still be zero
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
pop up
double play
would be my expectation
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 23, 2010 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Posey grounded into a DP to score a run. A Dodgers-like rally!
by Bob Timmermann on Sep 23, 2010 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Dodgers lineup
Furcal SS
Theriot 2B
Ethier RF
Gibbons LF
Kemp CF
Loney 1B
Blake 3B
Barajas C
Kuroda P
No the season series
already went to the Padres – the Dodgers started out 7-4, then lost six in a row.
I was bummed that David went with Mat Latos
I thought I had started a trend that would last the rest of his Padre career.
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Fucking thin sucks
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
I'm going to guess
that being thin sucks?
your shin hurts?
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or are you just down with the husky chicks?
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2010 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
hah woops
this is embarrising. Meant to say thing.
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
Man, Loney looks more buff then all of them
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I swear I was
going to say something about Jim Loney and his not using roids anymore.
He is bigger there than now.
and the lens makes him look funny
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 23, 2010 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions
If Loney ever used steroids, he needs his money back.
He never hit homers in the minors, he doesnt in the majors…thats why I’ve never liked him. Nothing in his minor league career led you to believe he’d be an above average power hitting 1st baseman.
Nothing in his minor league career led you to believe he’d be an above average power hitting 1st baseman.
That is very true but we have seen players who lack the power in the minor leagues grow into it. It didn’t happen for James, but it has happened before.
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Fish-eye lens or distortion on your part?
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2010 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s what it looks like…they’re all distorted.
by KellyStephen on Sep 23, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Credit Jon SooHoo, since he likely took it.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Oops
forgot about that. Hope he took it then. That photo is probably why I’m a very unhappy blogger these days.
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Remember when Guzman was gonna be the man?
by KellyStephen on Sep 23, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Sure
but the one guy who appeared to be a lock did nothing and the guy with the most power never showed up.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=705LEH3j2g0
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
What could have been. What could have fucking been.
by UCLADodger32 on Sep 23, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Since Phil asked some pretty good questions in the last post..
1. 80 mils of non deferred salaries
2. Frank McCourt will own the team but it’ll be up for sale
3. Kemp will rebound next year to a .280/.330/.450 player
4. I think Lilly, Kuroda, Padilla are all gone. So I have no idea.
5. Broxton’s probably injured.
6. Yes they’ll keep playing Loney and he’ll go down as my least favorite Dodger ever..ecplipsing Cesar Izturis. He wont be gone till Ned is gone.
7. Casey Blake will be the everyday 3rd basemen..until he succumbs to the DL.
8, No, Russ Martin resigns for 2 more seasons.
9. No, Furcal’s not going to healthier as he gets older…if anything he’ll at least miss his At Bat option which would have kicked in for 2012.
10. Lose 15% season holders…Dodgers would need two straight bad years to really see a drop off…
2011 record: 77-85
This honestly feels like the lost years of 1997-2003…ownership turmoil…very little in the minor league system…old school GM but with less money to spend (an awful circumstance).
3. Kemp will rebound next year to a .280/.330/.450 player
Not coincidentally… if Kemp had hit 25 more singles this year, his numbers right now would be .293/.350/.480.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 23, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Know what the difference between hitting .250 and .300 is? It’s 25 hits. 25 hits in 500 at bats is 50 points, okay? There’s 6 months in a season, that’s about 25 weeks. That means if you get just one extra flare a week – just one – a gorp… you get a groundball, you get a groundball with eyes… you get a dying quail, just one more dying quail a week… and you’re in Yankee Stadium.
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
Yep
You know, I’ve seen that movie so many times and I never bought that line. I thought, either you have the talent or you do not. Crash is kidding himself, trying to rationalize the fact that he never really made it… that it was just bad luck that got him stuck in the minors.
Then I saw Matt Kemp lose exactly a single a week and have his season turn from superstar-in-the-making to absolute shit. Now I wonder about ol’ Crash.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 23, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I've always thought timing was as important as talent
for the fringe players. A guy like Casey McGahee could still be bouncing around the minor leagues if the Brewers hadn’t traded for him and then had an injury force them to play him. Happens all the time to the fringe players.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
If he hadn't lost a step maybe he beats out 8 - 10 hits this year
I fairly certain when I asked if he had lost a step that his infield hits were down significantly from his historic levels.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Incorrect. His infield hit percentage has fluctuated greatly throughout his career. From 07 to this year he went from 16% to 6 % back up to 12% and back down to 5%.
by UCLADodger32 on Sep 23, 2010 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions
We seem to have different numbers
http://www.truebluela.com/2010/6/29/1543083/has-matt-kemp-lost-a-step
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I based mine on calculations
using infield ground balls and infield hits. Not sure if I used Fangraphs or not. I’ll revisit it and see what is up.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
This year has led me to believe Kemp wont be a superstar player. But I think he can still be above average as long as he stays in CF.
If the Dodgers ever move him to RF…they should just trade him.
So you would be against him in RF with Ethier in LF and say David DeJesus in CF?
I doubt that would happen, but he is a free agent coming off an injury.
I think I’d rather have Coco Crisp.
At least some Cinnamon Toast Crunch.
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
Didn't the Royals move DeJesus from CF to LF
because he wasn’t very good at it? Not like they had someone knocking down the door to move him.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Can the Dodgers trade for Alex Gordon and put him at 3b?
If you want to take a flyer on a guy…that would work.
Trade Gordon for Gordon!
Done.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 23, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
With Judge Gordon’s ruling affect that deal?
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
OMG - Bautista with his 50th bomb
Did he steal Aaron Hills mojo? I say we kill him and do an autopsy.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
check out this spray chart
6 total hits at home to right-right center
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/player/jose-bautista/hitchart/154727
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 23, 2010 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions
MLB
should just create a division of NYY/Boston and let them play each other 162 so ESPN can televise every game. That is all they care about anyway.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Looks the Padres will need to win to stay in first. The Giants are up 4-0 and it looks like Dempster has nothing.
Looks the Padres will need to win to stay in first
They don’t seem to have a problem doing that against the Dodgers.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Not much fun being cynical bloggers is it.
First time I’ve been in this position and I don’t really care that our team sucks, I care that they suck with the guys I wanted to see play.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Now I can safely root for gratuitous Buster Posey RBis to help my fantasy team. It’s 5-0 Giants.
by Bob Timmermann on Sep 23, 2010 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
please, tell me more about your fantasy team : )
by Josie Becker on Sep 23, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
What was the word on bowling night?
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
Yeah, his is up there on the mantle in a jar w/the twins.
by KellyStephen on Sep 23, 2010 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Ha!
I can’t justify dropping $500.00 to go bowling.
Plus I don’t know if I could deal with Josie asking me every 5 minutes to say “Shit” again! Because it sounds so funny!
:)
wha? How do you say shit where you’re from?
by Josie Becker on Sep 23, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
also, keith is secretly that guy from "the wire" so he says
sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-it.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 23, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Ahhh…the South…more syllables, less teeth.
by KellyStephen on Sep 23, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks man. It’s something to be proud of around here!
In other news, I am married to someone that wasn’t related to me before we got married.
I made out with a cousin once, but then it turned out we weren’t biologically related
by Josie Becker on Sep 23, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
he pronounces it “CAR-los ROO-eez”
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
by G.Scott on Sep 23, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm only coming if I can go to the bar and order a "caucasian."
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 23, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll come
as long as someone orders me a white russian
by Josie Becker on Sep 23, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
you’ll take your caucasian and you’ll like it
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
Great Scott!
I’ll take it, but I won’t like it
by Josie Becker on Sep 23, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve been called that before, but only by terrible high school and college sports writers after I had a haf decent game on the mound.
Never liked the name myself. BTTF was before my time, even though I love it now.
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
Can we maybe do some place other than Lucky Strike? Bowling is awesoke. Overpaying is nuts. I went a couple weeks ago to the lanes at Universal City Walk and it was like 50 bucks for 2 games and shoes for my gf and I.
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
Yea
I wouldn’t have mentioned Lucky Strike if I’d know how expensive it is. How many here have their own ball and shoes?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
The year of my birth
and, yes, I have a bowling ball and shoes….
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
He’s learning to run 65 toss power trap.
by Bob Timmermann on Sep 23, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Clayton kershaw to the texas rangers in 2015
according to sckels crystal ball…. go chck it out..
http://www.minorleagueball.com/2010/9/23/1706795/crystal-ball-clayton-kershaw#comments
In a related story
I’m going to go take a Carlos Ruiz. I hope most of it hits the bowl
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Man
He’s HUGE in ’12 and ’13. CY type seasons.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 23, 2010 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
They really enjoy kicking us while we’re down. He might as well say Al Davis is buying the Dodgers, turning DS into a football stadium, moving the Raiders back down here, and giving Ned a lifetime contract.
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
Actually, 2017
And don’t worry, Dodgers get all his good seasons.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 23, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh Julio Lugo
How quickly we forget you.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 23, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Lugo wasn’t accused of rape, just domestic violence.
by Bob Timmermann on Sep 23, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Can't I get some sort of pass on this?
It isn’t every day I get to make a Julio Lugo joke.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 23, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
But it's Julio Lugo! The second greatest Dodger villain of 2006!
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 23, 2010 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I have no dislike of Lugo
and thought it was a worthwhile trade since I’d given up on JtD by then. Who knew he was a PED and would suck the rest of his career. At the time he was okay.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
You'd given up on JtD?
Wasn’t he just a half-season removed from his monser year at AA? I mean, sure, he turned out to be nothing, but…. Yeah, he was having a disappointing year, but I don’t recall having given up on him by then.
Lugo was a forefather of this year’s trades: give up prospects for guys who aren’t good but having career years; they come here and suck.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 23, 2010 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I saw him in person
and was unimpressed with his athleticism, and he was two years removed from his monster AA year. He had that in 2004 not 2005. I knew he was not a SS, and felt he’d be lucky to be a corner outfielder. I’ll write about it but it was the first time I saw someone who I really liked based on numbers and when I saw him play the first time my stomach dropped, i was so disappointed with what i saw.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Do write about it. I’d love to read that.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 23, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Hard to believe that Guzman is still only 25.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 23, 2010 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
2004 AA at age 19 is what got me so geeked up. I’ll always remember the Baseball HQ Minor League Equiv giving him a plus .500 slug based on his AA season. Plenty of others however who saw him play said his swing was long and he’d have trouble and they were right.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I think he was the highest ranked
position player we have had at BA in the last 10 years.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Best prospects of the decade:
4 – Edwin Jackson 2004
5 – Joel Guzman 2005
7 – Clayton Kershaw 2008
7 – Chad Billingsley 2008
8 – Greg Miller 2004
by regfairfield on Sep 23, 2010 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Conclusion – BA not biased against the Dodgers
by regfairfield on Sep 23, 2010 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I pretty much agree with how he turns out, though I think with his skill set if he pitches till his late 30s he will get 3,000 strikeouts, rather than just the 2,800 listed. I also think he will have more than just one monster season, but likely only about 2. He’s going to be one of the top 10 pitchers in baseball for a long time IMO.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Juan Uribe has 2 homers and 6 RBIs. Just in the second inning. Madison Bumgarner has two hits in the inning!
CUBSFAIL.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Speaking of Uribe, I was stunned by this
Juan Uribe: 83 RBI
Dodgers with 83 RBI: ________________________
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions
To bad
89 would be impressive if you were impressed by RBI’s, which I am.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
So that's why you love Loney :P
I know RBIs are completely useless in determining how good a player is, but I’m still a fan of them.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I don't love Loney, I don't even like Loney as a hitter
but I wanted him to have this chance in his age 26 year to see what he had. He failed, I’m ready to move on given his contract in 2010.
As far as RBI’s go, I won’t even get into that discussion.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
How the hell did this happen?
Everybody knows you take the Matt Kemp approach with him: Throw a half decent breaking ball away and he’ll hack at it…
"I still love my ex-wife, but only when we're not talking"
by angelofdeath on Sep 23, 2010 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Bochy is already putting in the reserves in the third inning.
by Bob Timmermann on Sep 23, 2010 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m impressed. And jealous. Need a 4th? Or a caddy?
by KellyStephen on Sep 23, 2010 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL cubs
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
LOL Dumpster
"I still love my ex-wife, but only when we're not talking"
by angelofdeath on Sep 23, 2010 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Lorenzo Charles
is my favorite College Basketball Player of all time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l5N2eKdvL4
For years after this tournament they were my favorite team until Gonzaga usurped them. Still gives me chills, until that year I cared nothing for that team, for years afterward I’d follow the Wolfpack as closely as I followed UCLA.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Awesome. i like him so much better than Eric Ripert. i’m also calling my shot- Blais takes the whole thing.
by UCLADodger32 on Sep 23, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Can Andrew Bynum be considered a bust due to his injuries?
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/news/story?id=5607845
Likely to miss all of training camp..
.
Sam Bowie needs to give him a call
Good time for the Clippers to trade Kaman for him.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
What the Nolan Ryan?
http://www.minorleagueball.com/2010/9/23/1706795/crystal-ball-clayton-kershaw#comments
I don’t know if this has been posted.
Fuck Larry Bowa in 1980
Complete opposite of Heyward’s. The numbers he has for Kershaw really seem like a floor projection.
by UCLADodger32 on Sep 23, 2010 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Starlin Castro and Jaime Garcia demand (demand I say) to be acknowledged…
"I still love my ex-wife, but only when we're not talking"
by angelofdeath on Sep 23, 2010 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions
And Tyler Colvin's heart bleeds
That he hasn’t been recognized… Especially after this weekend…
Ok, too soon…
"I still love my ex-wife, but only when we're not talking"
by angelofdeath on Sep 23, 2010 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions
214 wins and the 19th most strikeouts of All Time is the floor for Kershaw?
by regfairfield on Sep 23, 2010 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously, that is a HOF (or near-HOF, depending on your POV) projection for Kershaw.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 23, 2010 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know, as you probably know Clayton Kershaw is my hero, lol, and I worship the ground he walks on, but in the projections (as a Dodger) he doesn’t allow many homeruns, only allows over 200 hits twice but pitches at least 35 and 15 innings more each year he does than the hits he allows, and he walks kind of a lot while striking out a bunch. There are 2 or 3 Cy Young worthy seasons, and one season where he just dominates the hell of out the league.
In the 2015 season (without knowing hit batters or intentionally walked batters) his FIP is 2.45, which is very, very great. I think he will have at least 2 seasons like that in his career.
What people need to remember about this is he has not actually projected this, these are just numbers he has put up (trades and free agency too i’m assuming) to stimulate conversation.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Question for the Board.
What will make a HOF pitcher in 2020? I have thought about this for a couple of months now and wonder what everyone on here thinks.
There used to be certain obvious milestones that got you in, such as 300 wins. Not saying we will never have another 300 game winner, but highly unlikely.
Are there going to be new milestones/checkpoints that will be established and if so, what are they/
Thanks for taking my call, I’ll hang up and listen.
With the advent of pitch counts and Xei's theory that bullpens suck (they do)
I think 250 wins should do it now…
"I still love my ex-wife, but only when we're not talking"
by angelofdeath on Sep 23, 2010 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions
thought about it too
maybe by then WAR will be factored in, or BA allowed, K/BB, etc? I say that 250 wins is the new 300, at least a Cy Young too.
There will be a big gap after Maddux because enough old timers will block everyone with “I once saw Three Finger Brown throw 450 pitches in a double header, why can’t these losers do the same?”.
After those people die, players will be voted in based on the number of opening day starts they have.
by regfairfield on Sep 23, 2010 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions
wifi issues!
on the plus side, the italian sausages in the media cafeteria are pretty good!
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
There are 6 pitchers in the HOF that never won a Cy Young award
that pitched in the in the awards era. (I may have missed some, but this is what I got)
Jim Bunning
Juan Marichal
Phil Neikro
Robin Roberts
Nolan Ryan
Don Sutton
Insane that Nolan Ryan never won a Cy Young
He has the strikeout record (by 1, gotta love Sandy) in a season, who beat him that season?
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Jim Palmer
This was a quote from Sandy Koufax after Ryan broke his record for K’s in a season. Pretty funny.
In 1973, Ryan set his first major record when he struck out 383 batters in one season, beating Sandy Koufax’s old mark by one. Remarking on this feat, Koufax joked, “Yeah, and he also surpassed my total for bases on balls in a single season by 91. I suspect half of those guys he struck out swung rather than get hit.”
Game Commiseration is UP
Take your whining in there!
http://www.truebluela.com/2010/9/23/1707243/dodger-padres-game-3-commiseration
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
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