James Loney & The Threepeat
by Eric Stephen on Sep 24, 2010 3:00 PM PDT
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Now that the Dodgers are eliminated, all we are left with is trivial statistical pursuits.
However you rate James Loney's season at the plate, he has a chance to accomplish quite a rare feat. In 2008 and 2009, Loney hit 13 home runs and drove in 90 runs. This season, he is sitting on nine home runs and 81 RBI. He needs four home runs and nine RBI over the final nine games to match those numbers for the third straight season. It may seem like a long shot, but this Dodger road trip just might be the thing for Loney.
| Stadium |
G |
PA |
HR |
RBI |
BA/OBP/SLG |
| Chase Field |
31 |
133 |
7 |
21 |
.439/.481/.675 |
| Coors Field |
34 |
139 |
5 |
41 |
.331/.381/.551 |
To put this in perspective, Loney has 18 home runs in 315 career games at Dodger Stadium, and 12 home runs in 65 games in the two parks on this road trip.
In addition, Loney needs 38 plate appearances over the final nine games to hit 651 plate appearances for the third year in a row. In the 127-year history of the Dodgers, only Tom Niedenfuer, with four plate appearances each year from 1982 to 1984, has had the exact same number of plate appearances, three seasons in a row. Loney is one of only four Dodgers to have the same number of PA in back-to-back seasons:
| Player |
PA |
Years |
| Steve Garvey |
696 |
1976-77 |
| James Loney |
651 |
2008-09 |
| Johnny Butler |
577 |
1926-27 |
| Cookie Lavagetto |
523 |
1940-41 |
| minimum 100 PA | ||
Garvey, not surprisingly, was nearly a metronome when it came to his numbers. From 1976 to 1979, Garvey put up 696, 696, 689, and 697 plate appearances.
Clause Osteen came so close to have three straight seasons with the same number of plate appearances, fitting a 99-PA season in 1971 in between seasons of exactly 100 PA.
Clayton Kershaw gets the call tonight to open the series in Arizona. He has 196 1/3 innings on the season, and will likely tonight become the sixth LA Dodger 22 or younger to pitch 200 innings in a season. Kerhsaw has faced the Diamondbacks twice this season, allowing two runs in 11 innings, winning both games.
Barry Enright had a great start to his career this season, going 6-2 with a 2.45 ERA in his first 12 starts. But Enright and his 5.03 strikeouts-per-nine turned into a pumpkin during his last three outings, allowing 17 runs in 12 2/3 innings. In those last three starts, he has allowed a whopping nine home runs, with four walks and two strikeouts.
In other words, expect the Dodgers to get shutout tonight.
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Game Time: 6:40 p.m.
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We are so far away from the non-tender deadline
Though I have read that all the deadlines (arbitration, tendering contracts) is being moved up this off-season.
In the 127-year history of the Dodgers, only Tom Niedenfuer, with four plate appearances each year from 1982 to 1984, has had the exact same number of plate appearances,
That’s the first thing I think of when I think of Niedenfuer.
Fuck You Ruiz
Yup, me too.
First and only baseball card I ever put on my bicycle spokes. ’85 was my first year as a Dodger / Baseball / sports fan.
Don't you worry
Next year will be even worse.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 24, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
perhaps. but we expected this year to be good, and it sucked. it could go the other way also! it could happen!
That's the spirit!
Don’t let the gin-soaked cynic get you down. ;-)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Oh you wild-eyed youths
with your fancy optimism and healthy livers. What do you know?!
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 24, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I ain't no youth ;-) and lord knows I'm cynical at times
but in sports I hold on to some belief that anything can happen…
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
You can not play the cynical card
you are like the biggest optimist here.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Wow, does that mean I'm the biggest cynic here? Is that right?
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 24, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
No
I think Joey will always be the biggest cynic and Underdog is not the biggest optimist but I think at your level and his, you both cancel each other out.
Who is our biggest optimist?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Maybe bh?
He’s the one who’s always ac-cent-tchu-ating the positive from management’s perspective.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 24, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
He defends management
but I’m sure he’s very optimistic about the team. He just thinks it is always overdone to scapegoat management.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Oh, I got it
It’s Canuck — at least as far as our prospects are concerned.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 24, 2010 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I used to be optimistic, and then I started hanging out here.
by robotmadeofnails on Sep 24, 2010 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Sometimes though this song sums my philosophy up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bmxyj6iInMc
Or maybe just my philosophy about the Dodgers v2011 :-)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I thought it would be this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcae5Gx3zzI
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 24, 2010 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice!
(Note : I will not link to video for Bon Jovi’s Keep the Faith)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Next time we get asked for predictions
I just might have to bust out the Billie Holliday Magic 8 Ball.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 24, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I was thinking
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xeidub_cee-lo-green-fuck-you_music
Don’t need to click to know which song
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
So when did you tube add ad's before every video?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
huh that's weird, I didn't get an ad with mine...
maybe random? Not surprising tho.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I didn’t get one either
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
This just proves the world is out to get me
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
You using Chrome?
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
Hanging our hat on Loney's quirky threepeat
and the #6Org with having their ace be named the Al Cy Young winner. I got a good chuckle (do people still chuckle?) at the Enright shutout prediction.
Question: Dodgers play badly for the first half of next year as well.
Do the Dodgers pull an Indians, and trade every viable player or keep everyone to go all in for 2012?
You’d trade the veterans with expiring contracts, listen to offers for the core with 0-1 years left before FA, and you grab whatever cost savings/value prospects you can.
It’s pretty cookie-cutter most times. The only thing I think that changes is we can’t just be a couple games under .500 for it to happen. We’d need to go like 20-30 in our first 50 games, maybe 45-55 in the first 100, to even consider it.
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
No
the Los Angeles Dodgers will never be sellers, they won’t trade players unless they get someone who can in the majors now.
That's right
It’s the difference between what they should do and what they will do.
They should wring as much value out of the current crop of Dodgers as they can. That might mean trading everyone with value.
But they won’t do that. They’ll continue to pour good resources after bad. They’ll become the Astros.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 24, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
The Astros were able to sign a couple of high priced FAs such as Carlos Lee and sign current players like Roy Oswalt to long term contracts.
I don’t know if the Dodgers can do either. And the two only players I would want to do it is Kershaw and Billingsley. Maybe Jansen as a really buy low situation, but he’s a reliever that isn’t the closer. He’s not folling the Broxton model either.
I could see that
we have enough where we could be competitive but know in our hearts that we’d never go really far. They finished 2nd five years in a row. Kershaw = Oswalt, Broxton = Lidge, Billingsley = Wade Miller
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Right. “Competitive,” but not competitive. 83 wins, 85 if everything breaks right, maybe a division title in a weak year.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 24, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
You mean like the 2008 Dodgers?
Even the Astros were able to have everything go right in 2005 to get to the World Series.
The 2008 Dodgers were that... staying on the cusp of competitiveness...
and then, as I recall, there was this deadline deal for Babe Ruth’s 1921 season.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 24, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
D-Backs lineup
Young CF
Abreu SS
Johnson 2B
Reynolds 3B
LaRoche 1B
Ryal LF
Hester C
Gillespie RF
Enright P
You brought up an interesting idea with laRoche. Would you sign him to a 2-3 year deal, acknowledge that we won’t be getting any value at 1B until we develop it, and trade Loney for what he’s worth?
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
I criticized Phil for comparing Matt Kemp and Chris Young. I didn’t know that Kemp would keep on sinking to the bottom, never to rise with a hot streak.
Phil was right.
I like watching Chris Young play more then Matt Kemp
but Young may have hit his ceiling and Matt his floor so I’m probably only right for one year which does not mean much.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Sorry in advance
I’ve been thinking about Loney and also the hitter’s meeting San Francisco had before yesterday’s blowout: or, in other words, James and the Giants’ speech.
by kinbote on Sep 24, 2010 3:50 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Rec!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
What defines a lefty here
throwing left handed or writing left handed?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I wonder what TBLA would have said
Back when Gibson was signed as a FA, a veteran to get into the faces of nice guys like Sax and Marshall.
I was thinking back to that 1988 team, I mean two players who were the faces of the 1980s Dodgers did not factor into their playoff run, Fernando and Pedro Guerrero, you had moved in PVLs like Griffin (man this place would have tore him up), John Shelby, Mike Davis, signed Tim Leary, etc.
I would have to check but I am guessing no team changed its roster as much in the starting lineup and pitching staff (and won) like the 1988 Dodgers
I was a huge Gibson fan
and was bummed when he signed the free agent deal. Then was ecstatic when his contract was ruled null and void, thus allowing us to sign him. His behavior in the spring made me think he was a dick but hey, he was exactly what the team needed.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Actually
Shelby, Leary and Belcher were on the 1987 team. But Leary and Belcher started a lot more games in 1988.
Interestingly enough, while you think of Hershiser (and maybe Leary), it was the bullpen that was the story that year, while no one pitched in more than 60 games, the top 3 MR guys all were able to pitch multiple innings.
We would have ripped that 88 team from one end to the other
but can you imagine the game threads when Gibson was playing. How about the 2nd to home, this place would have exploded, but I’m telling you if you didn’t see that in person you have no idea how dramatic it was.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I remember listening on the radio to that play
It was a strange regular season in the sense that only Gibson’s dynamic will on games and then Orel’s streak were compelling until the playoffs.
I remember how excited Don Drysdale got…“The ball gets by…Santovenia. Gibson around third, he’s gonna keep on coming! HE SCORES!! (3 octaves higher) Dodgers win!”
by Eric Stephen on Sep 24, 2010 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I miss Big D
wonder what he would have thought of bloggers.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
He would have thrown up and in at bloggers. Just like a real man.
by Bob Timmermann on Sep 24, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Big D on roids would have been an interesting hitter
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
He’d rip your head off and shit down your neck. Wait, that was Swede from “Heartbreak Ridge”.
Big D would be 74 years old. He’d politely listen as you explain what you do and what “paper” you’re with, then he’d say, “Well that’s great champ; nice talking to you”, pat you on the shoulder, and walk away (while rolling his eyes about the nutcase he just talked to).
In his younger years he’d throw a fastball by your ear.
by KellyStephen on Sep 24, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Heartbreak Ridge…..great movie
I’ve drank more beer, pissed more blood, and banged more quiff than all you numnuts put together!
One of my favorites in the war/action genre.
I’m a big Clint fan.
by KellyStephen on Sep 24, 2010 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLh4XBitsDs
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
If I remember right, Delmonico made the key error that cost his team
the College World Series.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=3444052
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I meant the two base steal to win the game.
by robotmadeofnails on Sep 24, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Right
but that was a cool video of Tony limping around after that home run.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
He didn't steal two bases
he went from 2nd to home on a wild pitch. Happens all the time, but this one was a walk off.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Bob, Craig, or Uncle Google
this was the Aug 20th game right?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Yep
Suck it, Joe Hesketh!
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/LAN/LAN198808200.shtml
by Eric Stephen on Sep 24, 2010 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
He singled to score the tying run in the ninth inning, then stole second base and scored all the way from second on the ensuing wild pitch to lift the Dodgers to an improbable 4-3 victory over the Montreal Expos before a crowd of 46,743 at Dodger Stadium.
Couldn’t help but notice that word.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 24, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Plus the Expos were wearing those beautiful powder blue road uniforms that night. Awesome all around.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 24, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I have an unironic love for powder blue uniforms.
You can call it a nostalgic love, but that’s only because nobody plays in the powder blues anymore. I think they should bring it back.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 24, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Gibson:
If I make it, we win; if I don’t, we’re in extra innings. We had tied the game and I was in the mood to be aggressive.
That is correct. With the game already tied, you press your luck on that play. What Gibson doesn’t say, but implies, is that if he had been the tying run, he wouldn’t have gone, and that’s correct, too.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 24, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Press your luck you say?
No whammies, no whammies, no whammies, stop!
by Eric Stephen on Sep 24, 2010 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Press Your Luck scandal
http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/Hoaxipedia/Press_Your_Luck_Scandal/
he had memorized the show’s computerized game board sequences, allowing him to continuously keep selecting winning board squares. He became the game’s biggest winner in less than an hour.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 24, 2010 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s one of the all-time great stories.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 24, 2010 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
The 2006 Cardinals had an opening day lineup of:
Eckstein SS
Encarnacion RF
Pujols 1B
Edmonds CF
Rolen 3B
Taguchi LF
Molina C
Miles 2B
Carpenter P
The rest of the rotation was: Mulder, Marquis, Suppan, and Ponson. Isringhausen was the closer.
Pujols stayed healthy all season, but Edmonds and Rolen missed a lot of time. 2B remained a black hole and Miles shared time with the inimitable Ronnie Belliard. Preston Wilson and Chris Duncan joined the outfield. Wainwright took over as closer. Jeff Weaver and Anthony Reyes took the spots of Mulder and Ponson in the rotation.
by Bob Timmermann on Sep 24, 2010 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Hu is our starting shortstop!
Just as the underdog prophecy foretold!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
So we can expect
one error, one dp, one bunt, one bloop double down the right field line.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Sounds about right!
Heh. I’m betting on no errors though, took the odds, put down 25 bucks. And a line drive double down the line.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
And one bourbon, one scotch, and one beer.
by KellyStephen on Sep 24, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I haven't seen Kensai post here in a while
am I just missing his comments or has he left us?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Busy with his site?
Minor league season ended, so he’s too busy compiling lists?
The weather is too nice in Hawaii?
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
How good was the 2003 Dodger pitching staff
They had 103 games where they allowed 3 runs or less. I am fairly sure that is the best in the 10 years. They 73-30 in those games, which is not a great percentage.
For instance
The 2010 Padres have allowed 3 runs or less in 79 games so far this year, they are 67-12.
Making us relive 2003
is like cutting us with multiple razor blades and then pouring gin on our wounds.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Beats reliving 2005 though...?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
No
2005 we sucked, in 2003 we if we had any offense at all we might have another title. If Beltre had been 2004 Beltre in 2003 the world as we know it would look different.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I will say it again. I am perversely fascinated with the 2005 Dodgers. I need more Oscar Robles!
by Bob Timmermann on Sep 24, 2010 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
"Perverse" is the word for it.
It’s got groove, it’s got meaning.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 24, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
The Dodgers were over 1.2 runs under the league average
currently the 2010 Dodgers are just about at league average unfortunately when you are not scoring, that won’t work.
Turned on the Yanks Red Sox game for a sec
and had forgotten that Lance Berkman was a NYY now.
Man they’re struggling. Can’t feel too sorry for em. My dad’s worried even tho they’ll make the playoffs that they won’t do shit once there. We shall see.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
he got his first HR as a yankee the other night
of the 335 ft nu yankee stadium power blasts to RF variety. such a joke.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 24, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
No wonder I'd forgotten.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
For those wondering about Double A shortstops of SoCal teams
The Angels purchased the contract today of Andrew Romine, their 5th rounder in 2007. He’s starting tonight at SS.
Trumbo is also making his first start, and Conger is catching, and Bourjos is leading off.
the hell are the angels going to do with 3 catchers next year?
I want Napoli.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 24, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Thought this was funny
From Aaron Gleeman:
Blyleven, who’s been kept out of HOF due to win total, just said he wouldn’t vote for Felix Hernandez because he doesn’t have enough wins.
Given the age of Hernandez he must have said that with tongue in cheek
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Blyleven is a guy who I’d love to have a few beers with. There’s a pic of him that I saw where’s in the clubhouse after a game wearing the t-shirt he wore under his uni. It says (I think), “who farted”?
by KellyStephen on Sep 24, 2010 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions
All we need is to have the same amount of confidence in the 2011 Dodgers
that this… woman has in her singing.
http://www.jamesgunn.com/2010/09/24/my-college-girlfriend-used-to-be-smoking-hot-i-swear/
Hopefully the Dodgers won’t have to move to the same kinda trailer for budgetary reasons.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
In case anyone will be around tonight
I will join out good friends at Sports Talk Soup to talk about the Dodgers and the MLB playoffs, sadly not inclusive. The show starts at 7:30, and I will go on around 8:30.
OT - The Galaxy are awesome
and will be on ESPN2 tonight. I’m pumped full of benadryl trying to make it to the game. If I die, tell Andre I loved him
If anyone wants to follow Becks, Josie, and the gang
You can do so over at SB Nation Los Angeles.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 24, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Charter has added ESPN HD to my cable system
Yay! In an unrelated story, I never watch ESPNU, although it will probably be in the rotation now, at least occasionally.
So you’ve been watching ESPN in….uh….I don’t even remember the name of the other definition for how long?
Standard Def! That’s it.
I ommitted a key letter in the header
I already had ESPN HD and ESPN2 HD.
I now also have ESPN U HD
by Eric Stephen on Sep 24, 2010 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Just call me before you switch
and I will split the referral money with you…..
http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/content/hd/channels?footernavtype=-1
Would one be viewed as uber lazy if they set their DVR to record something from their computer instead of getting up and walking to the living room to do it?
It just happened over here.
I would not only refrain from calling such a person lazy, but rather celebrate them as a champion of technology.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 24, 2010 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of consistency
Adam Dunn hit 2 HR tonight. His home run totals the last 6 seasons:
40
40
40
40
38
37
He still has 8 games left to hit 3 more bombs. He has 281 homers in the last seven years.
OT
When Arkansas beats Alabama tomorrow, I will be on here later to gloat.
If my words are distorted (more thank normal), It is because of alcoholic intake.
Just a friendly reminder.
Arkansas 31 Alabama 27
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