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Dodgers Come To Denver To Play Spoiler

The Dodgers have an opportunity to help end the Rockies' season in the next few days, as they open a series at Coors Field, the final three road games of the year for the Dodgers. Any combination of Braves' wins (they are hosting Florida) and Colorado losses totaling four spells doom for the Rockies. Colorado is also alive in the NL West race, but their elimination number is just two.

Ted Lilly hopes this start against the Rockies is less like his last start at Coors Field, and more like his start against the Rockies at Dodger Stadium. Aside from nearly leading the club in home runs allowed, Lilly has a chance to become the third Dodger ever, with at least 10 home runs allowed, to have more home runs than walks allowed, writes Jon Weisman of Dodger Thoughts, among Weisman's many other final week trivial tidbits.

Ubaldo Jimenez is sitting on 19 wins, looking to become the first Rockies' pitcher ever to get 20 wins in a season. The last pitcher to get his 20th win of the season against the Dodgers was Randy Johnson, on September 4, 2002.

Jimenez this season has set Rockies' records for wins and WAR, and currently holds the top seasonal marks for ERA and WHIP. His 198 strikeouts are 12 behind Pedro Astacio's club-record 210 punchouts in 1999. His three full seasons as a starter have produced the three lowest home run rates (per nine innings) in club history.

In three starts against the Dodgers this season, Jimenez has not allowed a home run. He has allowed eight runs in 20 1/3 innings in those three starts, and the Dodgers have scored progressively more runs in each game, scoring one, three and four runs. It is the inverse of last season, in which the Dodgers battered Jimenez early, but scored fewer and fewer runs in each successive game against him.

For those who wanted Kenley Jansen and Hong-Chih Kuo to pitch in yesterday's loss in Phoenix, think of the silver lining of that dark cloud: both are available to pitch multiple games in Denver, with a chance to eliminate the Rockies.

*****

With the pending departure of Joe Torre as Dodger manager this week, along with several more high-profile departures this season, Chris Jaffe, author of the book "Evaluating Baseball's Managers, 1876-2008," has written a great piece today for The Hardball Times about the top ten managerial finales in baseball history. The top finale ever was that of Fred Haney, whose final managerial game came with the 1959 Braves, who lost a best-of-three playoff to the Dodgers for the NL pennant.

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One quick note about the Raiders - NFL Network All-TIme Top 100 players

They have gone through 61-100 so far.

Raiders selected so far:

63. Jim Otto – Center, first year 1960
66. Wille Brown, Cornerback, first year 1963
73. Art Shell, Offensive Tackle, first year 1968
82. Ted Hendricks, Linebacker, first year 1969
85. Marcus Allen, first year 1982

My guess would be that George Blanda, Dave Casper, Gene Upshaw and Mike Haynes will be the other Raiders on the list. Which would make 9 out of 100 players unfortunately for Raider fans none that have played significantly for almost 20 years.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 27, 2010 1:52 PM PDT reply actions  

When are those collapsible threads supposed to arrive?

by TurnItDown on Sep 27, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not soon enough. Not that I don’t like Old Raiders talk though. Of all the off topic things, it wouldn’t be anywhere below the 50% percentile on my list. :)

by Xeifrank on Sep 27, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

if Marcus Allen is 85, Tim Brown is getting the shaft.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 27, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Marcus is not a "True Raider"

He can go off the list.

"We were never friends"

by delias man on Sep 27, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because Al Davis says so.

"We were never friends"

by delias man on Sep 27, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

So far

there have been four receivers selected on the list
Randy Moss, Paul Warfield, Elroy “Crazy Legs” Hirsch, and Michael Irvin. Don’t know where Brown fits in with that group.

I am fairly sure that neither of Pittsburgh’s HOF Super Bowl winning WRs won’t get picked in the top 60 (Swann and Stallworth). It’s a tough position, the top 3 will probably some combo of Rice, Don Hutson and Lance Alworth.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 27, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tough group

I did not realize he was not a first ballot HOF last year.

"We were never friends"

by delias man on Sep 27, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually

now, I don’t think Blanda makes the list.

One other note about Blanda, he was married from December 17, 1949 until his death to Betty Harris and they had 11 children.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 27, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

No way Blanda makes the all time list

but he was an all fan player. I can remember all the old coots getting wiggy with it when Blanda was doing his post 40 heroics. Old style straight a head kicker. He was just an old fuck to me, didn’t understand what all the hoopla was about.

by meercatjohn on Sep 27, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

When Tommy Blackjack said he didn’t know who Blanda was on the other thread, I feared for his life.

And you were the reason I feared for his life.

Wow

by keithc13 on Sep 27, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

a swing and a miss!

"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein

by nolander on Sep 27, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Meercat is slipping.

If I said that shit, he’d punish me!

by keithc13 on Sep 27, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man

you utes must think I’m one crabby motherfucker. I couldn’t care less that some 25 year old doesn’t know who an 83 year old QB was. The problem isn’t you all didn’t know who he was, the problem is he’s dead. Which means many of the 50 year olds who made him their hero by being a stud at 40 are already dead.

by meercatjohn on Sep 27, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I wonder what made them think that? :)

by Eric Stephen on Sep 27, 2010 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Couldn’t begin to imagine why I thought that.

Dude, I dig the shit out of you. I think you are legit awesoke.

No bullshit.

by keithc13 on Sep 27, 2010 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

no homo

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 27, 2010 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rams that will make this list

of the ones that people might know –
Deacon Jones and Merlin Olson, others will probably Dick Night Train Lane, Tom Fears and Norm Van Brocklin.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 27, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Receivers

generally are a hard position for the HOF to deal with, numbers are useful of course but they are somewhat skewed in modern football.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 27, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rockies lineup

Young 2B
Fowler CF
CarGo RF
Tulo SS
Iannetta C
Helton 1B
Payton LF
Herrera 3B
Jimenez P

by Eric Stephen on Sep 27, 2010 1:52 PM PDT reply actions  

starting Ianetta and Helton against a righty and sitting Mora. Nice.

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 27, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I sense and “edit” coming.

by Xeifrank on Sep 27, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

The part about starting Ianetta and Helton against a righty. If the Dodgers are starting a righty then yes, the simulator would need an edit. :)

by Xeifrank on Sep 27, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

he means me saying “against a righty” instead of “against a lefty”.

I figured people would get it without the strikethrough.

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 27, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

My post was a response to G.Scott only. I think he said that the Dodgers starter was a “righty” and Lilly was pitching. Thus the edit comment. Of course it could be my reading comprehension or lack of it?
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Sep 27, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just assumed Lilly was going to try to make sure he had more walks than homers by throwing with the right wrong hand.

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 27, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

hehe – you had me double and triple checking who the Dodgers starter was. :)

by Xeifrank on Sep 27, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jose Offerman is starting for the Rockies? No way!

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 27, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Miguel Olivo is a very bad player.

by regfairfield on Sep 27, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was knocked upside the head yesterday by Tulo...

I won’t argue he’s pretty much swung a swiss cheese bat post ASB, but he has thrown out over 40% of basestealers this year.

His 1st half was completely unsustainable. More BB in the 1st half than his career full year high. His defense has been legit this year, tho.

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ROCKTEMBER - The month before we play Mora playoff games
ROCKTEMBER - The rest of you can settle for Festivus

by Mondogarage on Sep 27, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Spoiler, haha - very funny Eric

Rip that 0.02% and their hearts away from the Rockies.

by Xeifrank on Sep 27, 2010 1:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Have you been posting the simulations in fanposts on teams sites again this year? If so, have they been banning you?

by Michael White on Sep 27, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve done a few, but none recently. I mostly get a positive response – with the usual one or two wisecracker comments about Play Station. :)

I’ll probably do them for the playoff teams. Haven’t been banned in a long time. My only standing ban is from LL for not properly using the subject title, old habits are hard to break and who is going to keep track of 100 different site rules. MCC re-instated me after I went “high order” with em. I got warned once at the Blue Jays blog, because there was a costly error in the game and I said something like “that play was gay”, and got warned for a homophobic comment. I think at MCC or a the NY/BOS sites you get warned for not saying something offensive. :)

How about yourself?

by Xeifrank on Sep 27, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

and that LL ban was on the day I was arguing that the Mariners hadn’t really improved their team by signing Figgins, Lee, Bedard etc… I was more a victim of censorship. LL definitely has the biggest internet jerks for mods. Smart but jerky. Hmmm, smart jerky, sounds like a new food. Been a while since we had a food thread.

by Xeifrank on Sep 27, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Stampede Blue(Colts) says you are wrong

seriously the most popular fan post OF ALL TIME on their website was about how everyone hated their chief writer and editor, and most of their posters now run large rolling threads that would demolish your work computer on the Texans board(we took pity on them.

"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein

by nolander on Sep 27, 2010 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

No bans for me, I just thought you were catching grief last year as people accused you of “spamming” for your own website.

by Michael White on Sep 27, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

The problem last year was that SB Nation has a “ban bot” that detects how many Fanposts you make in a day, or some short time period. If you made more than two, the bot gave you an automatic ban from ALL SB Nation sites including this one. It basically disabled your account for any kind of posting. I had to make sure I didn’t go over their threshold and had to email Eric once or twice asking him to help get me re-instated. I understand that they are protecting against spam, but in a perfect world they would have a smarter automated ban bot.

No sites gave me grief – only the “ban bot”.

by Xeifrank on Sep 27, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I will say

this is the most Mason and Ireland have talked about UCLA football in all don’t know long.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 27, 2010 2:37 PM PDT reply actions  

its 99% of the time about USC

"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest

by shaqfor3 on Sep 27, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sports talk radio in Los Angeles. All USC and Lakers, all the time.

by Michael White on Sep 27, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

pretty much

strange since Ireland is a UCLA alum.

"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest

by shaqfor3 on Sep 27, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

What are the sports radio stations in LA? And which team(s) games do those stations carry?

by Xeifrank on Sep 27, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

well

theres AM 570 (vic the brick), 710 ESPN (Lakers, USC football, Angels) KABC 790 (Dodgers), AM 830 (Angels) and a bunch of other stations.

"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest

by shaqfor3 on Sep 27, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Radio outlets for

Kings – 1150-AM KTLK
Angels, Ducks – 830-AM KLAA
Clippers – 980-AM KFWB
UCLA Football and Basketball – 570-AM KLAC

by bhsportsguy on Sep 27, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dodgers lineup

Furcal SS
Theriot 2B
Ethier RF
Loney 1B
Kemp CF
Blake 3B
Oeltjen LF
Ellis C
Lilly P

by Eric Stephen on Sep 27, 2010 2:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Starting Loney against a lefty, bold strategy Cotton.

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 27, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

just for Xei

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 27, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

hehe – thinks for thanking of me. :)

by Xeifrank on Sep 27, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Possible Reason for Loney start

Loney perhaps in 1 game has another Coors game to remember

by wineracquet on Sep 27, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I made the mistake earlier of saying Lilly was a righty and Xei went into Panic Mode. Just giving him a hard time and making fun of myself by saying Ubaldo Jimenez is a lefty.

Here’s to Ubaldo getting win #20….next week.

"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."

by G.Scott on Sep 27, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Several Rockies notes

from the team:

Olivo, kicked in head yesterday, will not start tonight to get a breather, but is available.

Just like Ruby Sue!

Seth Smith is not 100%, but is at the ballpark & available

Giambi has sore left bicep tendon. Tracy doesn’t “like his chances” of him getting another AB this yr.

Stewart still has flu-like symptoms, not at ballpark tonight.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 27, 2010 3:07 PM PDT reply actions  

That would suck for a team going to the playoffs. They don’t have to worry about that.

by Alex41592 on Sep 27, 2010 3:10 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

That’s something ain’t it? She falls in a well, eyes go crossed. She gets kicked by a mule, they go back to normal. I don’t know

by KellyStephen on Sep 27, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

The very line I was thinking of. Well played.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 27, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Best Holiday movie ev……

Best one I can think of right now.

Love that freakin movie

by keithc13 on Sep 27, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Best Holliday movie was really just a live action short

Only 90 feet long. There was much cheering at the original showing.

It didn’t play well amongst San Diego filmgoers, however.

ROCKTEMBER - Time for Some F***ing Guy to Shine
ROCKTEMBER - The month before we play Mora playoff games
ROCKTEMBER - The rest of you can settle for Festivus

by Mondogarage on Sep 27, 2010 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

That safe call was so strange.

by robotmadeofnails on Sep 27, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

So was the non HR call of Atkins' home run in the 8th

It was a very strange game all around, tbh.

ROCKTEMBER - Time for Some F***ing Guy to Shine
ROCKTEMBER - The month before we play Mora playoff games
ROCKTEMBER - The rest of you can settle for Festivus

by Mondogarage on Sep 27, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Noooooo not Miguel Olivo, Seth Smith, Jason Giambi and Ian Stewart. How will they every survive without quality players like this.

I am also very upset Scott Podsednik is out for the year.

by regfairfield on Sep 27, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

can someone explain how we ended up sending preston mattingly to the indians?

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 27, 2010 3:47 PM PDT reply actions  

A trade was made. I’m guessing a few phone calls between general managers.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 27, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha

no but is it a waiver type deal because its so late in the season?

also the ap article about it said preston was the dodgers #1 pick in 2006. lazy writing.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 27, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Preston wasn’t on the 40 man, was he?

by Michael White on Sep 27, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Neither player was on the 40-man roster, so no waivers are needed.

Mattingly was a first round supplemental pick (#31 overall), and while I agree with you it’s not technically correct those are almost always referred to as “#1 picks” in the mainstream.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 27, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

less letters than ‘first round pick’ I guess

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 27, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tony Jackson said DeJon made this deal.

by silverwidow on Sep 27, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

How do people like

the market pricing of games? Has it affected the stub-hubs, craigslist type sales?

by bhsportsguy on Sep 27, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

i hate the new pricing system.

everything is more expensive. This year, stupid bleacher seats are like $40!! Last year (when the Dodgers mattered) it was about $17 for a Dodger v. SF game

by DodgerSF on Sep 27, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I remember seeing the prices someone wanted for the Red Sox series and thinking, I could make back all of the money I spent if someone paid those prices.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 27, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

doesnt sf always jack you with dodger tickets? my friends made it seem like you have to buy a ticket pack to get tickets against LA.. kinda like what we did with the yankees but they do it all the time with a division rival.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 27, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

not before

but it feels that way this year under the new market pricing system.

by DodgerSF on Sep 27, 2010 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wall Street 2 was boring. I wouldn’t waste your 9 bucks.

by silverwidow on Sep 27, 2010 3:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Would you waste 2 dollars?

Or should I wait for a tuesday and see it for 1?

"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein

by nolander on Sep 27, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

i hate the new pricing system.

everything is more expensive. This year, stupid bleacher seats are like $40!! Last year (when the Dodgers mattered) it was about $17 for a Dodger v. SF game…

by DodgerSF on Sep 27, 2010 3:55 PM PDT reply actions  

It has come to the point where we have to have a reason for Jay Gibbons not being in the starting lineup. He has a sore calf, per Dylan Hernandez.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 27, 2010 3:58 PM PDT reply actions  

OT

Has anyone messed with the Playstation Move? I know the content is lacking at launch, but what do you think of the reaction of the controller.

by robotmadeofnails on Sep 27, 2010 4:00 PM PDT reply actions  

I like the commercial.

by silverwidow on Sep 27, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha. Me too. I think I eventually will get it, but I have plenty of games I need to finish first, so I might as well wait. If anything, I could find some cheaper games/equipment in 4 months or so.

by robotmadeofnails on Sep 27, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I want to know what people are going to do regarding steering wheels and GT5

"We were never friends"

by delias man on Sep 27, 2010 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good question. I would think it would work just like the wii mote, where you turn it horizontally. I am excited about using the Move remote with a game like Heavy Rain. Just more immersive (i.e. reaching out and opening a door)

by robotmadeofnails on Sep 27, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would not use move for that. You will need to go buy one of these Logitech wheels, but there is a lot of force, so you need to purchase a stand or get super lucky and have a table to attach it to that is the perfect height. You will get worked if you try GT5 steering with the controller.

"We were never friends"

by delias man on Sep 27, 2010 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm curious how well GT5 will do

probably very, but I wonder if they get dinged because Forza has been able to release two-three versions in the time it took them to get one out the door.

"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein

by nolander on Sep 27, 2010 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

motion controllers seem like ps3 and xbox execs running off the cliff like lemmings. a ton of people bought the wii, but how many people still play it? seems like its a mistake you only make once.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 27, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Motion controls are the future, like it or not. Controllers are just too unintutive for people who didn’t grow up with them. Might as well get your platform out now so you can start learning what works.

by regfairfield on Sep 27, 2010 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eventually people will realize

that motion controlled games and non motion controlled games can live side by side and stop the bickering about it. Most people can’t find time to play all the great games coming out these days, there are plenty of studios to pump out both motion controlled and non motion controlled games of high quality.

"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein

by nolander on Sep 27, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right, I’m not saying a non motion controlled game can’t be good, I’m just saying as they try to reach more and more people, motion control is going to be more and more prevelant. “Press A” is a much bigger hurdle than a lot of people realize, let alone something like figuring out how to play Halo with any kind of precision.

The controller is necassary to make a lot of games we have today, but as more and more companies see the expanded audience they can reach with motion controls*, we’re gonna see the controller less and less.

I’m an interface dork, so I’m really interested in this stuff.

*Good motion controls at least, bad motion controls are probably worse than a controller

by regfairfield on Sep 27, 2010 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

bad motion controls equal raaaaaaaaaaaaaaage

"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein

by nolander on Sep 27, 2010 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Wii has actually been a great aid in my wife's rehabilitation, precisely because of its motion controller

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by Mondogarage on Sep 27, 2010 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yea, and I know there are not a ton of games out there yet, but the precision and accuracy of the movements (based on video reviews) looks really impressive.

by robotmadeofnails on Sep 27, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

im just bitter

Ive been gaming since I was 9 (Im 31 now) and this new technology just screams gimmickry to me. It might help that the ps3 and xbox are more than just a glorified ps2 like the wii is, but I dont anticipate move and kinect to be that great.

Also, I dont know about move but supposedly kinect has weird lag and shape recognition issues.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 27, 2010 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

remember, PC gaming has been dying since 1986

or not. Just ignore the motion controls if they don’t float your boat.

"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein

by nolander on Sep 27, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Im mad about this too

and I dont even own a pc! need civ 5 ported the mac asap before I go on a rampage

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 27, 2010 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think you missed my point

but I’m not sure. PC gaming isn’t dying, consoles may be more prevelant then PC gaming, but the quality and quantity of PC games is still plentiful. Motion controls in this metaphor are the consoles, and traditional controls are PCs. They aren’t going anywhere.

"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein

by nolander on Sep 27, 2010 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

And some games need a mouse and keyboard. Team Fortress Classic is much more precise with a mouse and keyboard vs. controller. And since I am not in college anymore, I can’t play TFC until 4 am.

by robotmadeofnails on Sep 27, 2010 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

feelin u

but Im not sure how much time pc games have left. theres some good franchises left (civ, starcraft, wow, sim city) but most of it is ported over from consoles these days.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 27, 2010 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anything BioWare makes

Anything Valve makes.
Any RTS really.
Battlefield on PC still roflstomps console versions.
STALKER
etc etc

"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein

by nolander on Sep 27, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

how have you become so wise in the way of gaming?

Im kind of happy with my law firm job these days because all my cases are about video games..

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 27, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Games are one of my top two hobbies

that and sports. I follow them obsessively, trawling places like gaming.reddit.com for kernels of info. I’m also a loser and own a sweet gaming rig and all 3 consoles(I only bought two of them!).

"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein

by nolander on Sep 27, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bah

Had all that, and then up and got married. Now, my Steam just laughs at me.

Oh wait, no, those are my online poker clients that do that.

So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?

Will the Giants complain about the non-humidor balls in Citizens Bank Ballpark when they lose there, too?

TWINS FOR THE WINS, I guess!

by Mondogarage on Sep 27, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

my gf used to front like she didnt mind me playing games but that mask slipped off like 3 months in to our relationship

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 27, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

If your having problems I feel bad for you son

I’ve got 99 problems but a woman who won’t let me play my games isn’t one.

"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein

by nolander on Sep 27, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I get my one designated day a week for pokerz

Of course, I get in about 25 tournies on that day, so go me.

But it means no other computer games…which really is okay, but I get a bit wistful about them once in a while. Too many other things on my plate, tho, so better to just not sweat it.

At my age, the wife’s more important in my life than the games anyway. ;-)

So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?

Will the Giants complain about the non-humidor balls in Citizens Bank Ballpark when they lose there, too?

TWINS FOR THE WINS, I guess!

by Mondogarage on Sep 27, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anyhoo, outta here...

…I have to stay out of your game threads, as I have a tendency to get banned from non-Rockies’ NL West SBNation fansites, lol. Don’t really want that to happen…

Hopefully it’s an entertaining series.

So let's just win 12 more games next year, mmmkay?

Will the Giants complain about the non-humidor balls in Citizens Bank Ballpark when they lose there, too?

TWINS FOR THE WINS, I guess!

by Mondogarage on Sep 27, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

You wont get banned here unless you're just a dick

Then you will get the old “go fuck yourself” from Eric Stephen.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 27, 2010 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

The motion controllers are a nice addition

Look at it this way, more and varied controllers can probably only expand the overall market. They’re not going to kill the current controllers at all. In fact, motion controllers for PS3 and Xbox won’t even kill the Wii, unless they’re accompanied by enough of the requisite games for “non gamers”.

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ROCKTEMBER - The rest of you can settle for Festivus

by Mondogarage on Sep 27, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

The issue is less with the movement controls

and with the limitations of the hardware. Actually getting motion controls in games like SOCOM and Killzone will help.

"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein

by nolander on Sep 27, 2010 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I won't adapt to motion controllers

It just won’t work for me. Growing up I was always certain I would be able to beat the shit out of my kids when it came to videogames, but the rolling out of motion controllers have confirmed that I will be just like every other dad who plays once or twice, gets run, and quits.

by Michael White on Sep 27, 2010 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m looking forward to helping my son build his first computer when he is around 8 years old :)

If we still use computers like we do now

by robotmadeofnails on Sep 27, 2010 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein

by nolander on Sep 27, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

aye

Hell I’m 25 and I feel this way sometimes. I’ve got a gorram job, last thing I want when I sit down to game is dealing with a bunch of foul mouth half brain dead 13 year olds who play the game like it is a religion.

"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein

by nolander on Sep 27, 2010 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is sofa king funny.

I felt like that when I played NCAA online last year!

by keithc13 on Sep 27, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m totally depressed that I knew where that comes from.

by EMDarrow on Sep 27, 2010 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

why does loving the Buff-ster depress you?

by Josie Becker on Sep 27, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mostly cause collecting Buffy comics is typically grounds for having your man card revoked.

by EMDarrow on Sep 27, 2010 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Buffy had a whole comic where she and Angel fucked for the whole issue.

by Tripon on Sep 27, 2010 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

really? I thought Buffy skewed pretty down the middle. I mean sure it’s all about female empowerment, but it’s written by the king of geeks not the queen.

Now if you knew the allusion being made by the outfit Buffy is wearing in this scene, that would make you even geekier, but might involve some man card revokage

by Josie Becker on Sep 27, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Using the term “man card” also gets said card revoked :)

by Eric Stephen on Sep 27, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have a great copy of the

first cover story of Wolverine in Incredible Hulk 181.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 27, 2010 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha Ha Ha

Please tell me this is true…..

by keithc13 on Sep 27, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha

(a) Is Oklahoma actually a song, or just a musical (that doesn’t perform in January)?
(b) I have never seen said musical
© but point taken on karaoke :)

by Eric Stephen on Sep 27, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Big karaoke fan, Eric????

by keithc13 on Sep 27, 2010 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not worried about my man card

A. It is a Musical and Song
B. Seen many times
C. If I could sing at all I’d spend many an evening at a Karaoke bar, but alas even my 3rd grade teacher who loved me to death would not let me join the choir because I could not carry a note. It made me the crabby motherfucker before you today.

by meercatjohn on Sep 27, 2010 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

The appeal of not getting skull fucked by 13 year olds?

"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein

by nolander on Sep 27, 2010 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Charlie Weis had emergency gallbladder surgery this morning.

by silverwidow on Sep 27, 2010 4:34 PM PDT reply actions  

owe?

"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein

by nolander on Sep 27, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hope he doesn’t get an infection like I did.

Gonna suck if he does.

by keithc13 on Sep 27, 2010 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

the team with the fewest fatalities will make it to the super bowl!

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 27, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

nearby teams for practices

I wonder if he’s talking about finally getting USC versus Raiders

by Josie Becker on Sep 27, 2010 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which team is moving?

by Eric Stephen on Sep 27, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haven’t you heard? The Raiders are LA’s team! Though I would be amused to see USC move to Oakland and rename themselves UNC. South Carolina would rejoice : )

by Josie Becker on Sep 27, 2010 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Had the Yankees lost yesterday

I believe they would be in full panic mold today.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 27, 2010 5:03 PM PDT reply actions  

That is funny. My friend’s Dad is 84 and sharp as hell. He just texted me and told me his Dad said “When Burnett pitches, they should start the game with the GD long man getting loose.”

LMAO

by keithc13 on Sep 27, 2010 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

was shocked to find out his record (soon to be 10-15)

by Eric Stephen on Sep 27, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

bummer for burnett

by DodgerSF on Sep 27, 2010 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

He just said his Dad is trying to turn the TV off now. “He couldn’t get me out and I’m 86!” I thought he was 84, either way that is funny as hell.

by keithc13 on Sep 27, 2010 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

but it doesn’t seem to matter right? They are pretty much in no matter what.

by DodgerSF on Sep 27, 2010 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

It would be the greatest choke of all time

but yes. But right now, there really isn’t a clear favorite in the AL.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 27, 2010 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

It doesn’t matter at all. Listening to Yankee fans complain about AJ Burnett is like listening to Jamie McCourt complain about the size of her pool.

by regfairfield on Sep 27, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

kind of important

even in a short series when your starters are CC and no one else I’d trust on the mound right about now.

by meercatjohn on Sep 27, 2010 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

well unlike last year

they will need to have at least 3 starters in the first round and that is with 1 guy going on short rest.

My hunch is that the AL gets the Wed/Thursday/Saturday/Sunday schedule/Tuesday (with the NL having home field advantage).

by bhsportsguy on Sep 27, 2010 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

So the Yankees might actually have a weakness?And the weakness is “has to start Phil Hughes?” Well shit time to panic.

by regfairfield on Sep 27, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

jimcallisBA
  
Potential for three plus pitches. One of the more underrated pitchers around. @JulioNievas: How do you like Allen Webster’s arm? #Dodgers

by Julio Nievas on Sep 27, 2010 5:13 PM PDT reply actions  

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