Trio of Terror - The Kemp / Loney / Broxton Horror Show
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 27, 2010 9:52 AM PDT
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PrintWith 43 years of Dodger seasons to bank on, I'm having a hard time remembering such a disappointing Dodger season. I didn't expect a lot from this team, but I expected it to be competitive. I expected the core to improve, I expected meaningful Sept baseball. It isn't the record, I've seen worse, it was the total failure of Kemp, Loney, and Broxton in the 2nd half that has put this season near the top of my least favorite seasons.
Players who I liked a lot, players who I have written extensively about long before they ever played a game for the Dodgers, players who I'd hoped would have at least for Kemp/Broxton the same kind of season they had in the past. For those two they had the historical record of being at the top of their position in performance. For Loney I simply had hope based on his strange Road/Home splits, the fact age 26 year old 1st baseman who have played extensively sometimes break out. All of them were a big reason why the Dodgers were even playing in the NLCS the last two years. All of them were a reason I looked forward to the 2010 season. All of them are the reason I hate how this season has unfolded. No injuries here, just unbridled under performance to the level of stinkerooooooooooo.
All three players got substantial raises this winter, and all three players put up their worst professional seasons. The 2nd half horror show just keeps playing over and over to the point where I simply wait for either nothing to happen, or for something bad to happen. I'm not a negative person, but during this abysmal showing, I worry about two things. How can we get a lead with an anemic offense that looks like nine Cesar Izturises are playing, and if we do somehow claw our way to a lead how can we get it to Jansen/Kuo before it is obliterated by the Blue Ox. (23 Innings, 28 hits, 18 earned runs, 21 walks, .896 OPS against)
Trio of Terror has a double meaning as we head into Coors , when our Dodgers come to the plate or pitch I scream in agony as they play like right field little leaguers, however when the Rockies trio of terror come up, I scream in pain, as I await the damage they will inflict upon us. When I say scream I'm not talking about a verbal hell-raising sound from some coed caught in the woods at the beginning of a horror movie but of a muted internal scream of protest that excretes enough acid that only gin will placate the bile forming in the bowels of my misery.
2nd Half Stats:
| Name | Avg | OB% | Slug% | OPS |
| Matt Kemp | 0.229 | 0.293 | 0.372 | 0.665 |
| James Loney | 0.214 | 0.286 | 0.332 | 0.618 |
| Troy Tulowitzki | 0.336 | 0.397 | 0.673 | 1.070 |
| Carlos Gonzalez | 0.377 | 0.428 | 0.705 | 1.133 |
| Melvin Mora | 0.313 | 0.384 | 0.488 | 0.872 |
Yup, that is one Melvin Mora, who at the age of 37 had an OPS of .679 in Baltimore as their regular 3rd baseman. He's found a new life in the 2nd half for the Rockies as they have leaned on him heavily against LHP, and he's delivered. Funny how this platoon thing can work when used correctly.
Now if I'm' a Rockie fan I may be even more disappointed then Dodger fans. Things look extremely bleak for the post season chances of the Rockies, and that comes after career years from Tulo / CarGo. If they had made the playoffs, either of these players would have been legitimate MVP candidates. If you can't win a pennant with the years these guys have had... ????????
On the flip side for Rockie fans they will be looking forward to 2011 hoping for more of the same much like Dodger fans were looking toward 2010 hoping for more of the same. This is baseball; nothing is guaranteed except chaos. For the most part given enough information projection systems work, but, man oh man, on the edges that is where the seasons are written. Tulo and CarGo each had a season for the ages, but they won't be playing in October while the pathetic Padres still might.
That might bring a Rockie fan to scream like us.
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Loney
wOBA:
2007:.377
2008: 333
2009: .332
2010: .317
The community projections for him next year should be fun. I’m guessing a Russell Martin-ish wOBA of less than .310
.359
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 27, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
About .350
ROCKTEMBER - Time for Some F***ing Guy to Shine
ROCKTEMBER - The month before we play Mora playoff games
ROCKTEMBER - The rest of you can settle for Festivus
by Mondogarage on Sep 27, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Yup
far cry from what Tulo/Cargo have done but if he was a Dodger we’d be bowing to him considering what we have gotten. I did have to stretch to get him in.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 27, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
http://www.truebluela.com/2010/9/27/1714986/baseball-america-top-20-pioneer-league
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Man there are some great lines in this preview
This is baseball; nothing is guaranteed except chaos. For the most part given enough information projection systems work, but, man oh man, on the edges that is where the seasons are written.
and especially
when the Rockies trio of terror come up, I scream in pain, as I await the damage they will inflict upon us. When I say scream I’m not talking about a verbal hell-raising sound from some coed caught in the woods at the beginning of a horror movie but of a muted internal scream of protest that excretes enough acid that only gin will placate the bile forming in the bowels of my misery.I wonder if the plural of “Izturis” should be “Izturii”?
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Before the season began
I would have never believed this team would end up with a record below .500, and if you told me that this was how our starting pitching was going to be, I would have assumed a division championship.
Now we are 6 games below .500 and look like one of the worst teams in the league.
Where have I seen this before?
Melvin Mora, 2nd half…
at Coors: .411/.463/.562
on Road: .237/.324/.430
Yawn
that .754 road OPS would bat fourth on our team.
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
Don't get me wrong
Mora is far outpacing our putrid lineup. I just thought a little dose of perspective was warranted.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 27, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Last I looked we are playing in Coors
where that 1.025 OPS will be on display against Lilly and Kershaw.
by meercatjohn on Sep 27, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Your reaction is
intriguing. Seems like your saying fuck the numbers, he’s Melvin Fucking Mora so we should not be worried about him.
by meercatjohn on Sep 27, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
I would feel the same way
facing the Dodgers, thinking “sure, Jay Gibbons is hitting .288/.321/.521, but he’s Jay Fucking Gibbons and he was out of MLB since 2007 (when he was terrible).”
by Eric Stephen on Sep 27, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
SSS?
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by David Young on Sep 27, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, smallish, but not really SSS
He does have 344 PAs this season.
Most likely not sustainable, of course. And he was never meant to get that many, but with Stewart’s injury, he’s pretty much been our regular 3B for over a month.
ROCKTEMBER - Time for Some F***ing Guy to Shine
ROCKTEMBER - The month before we play Mora playoff games
ROCKTEMBER - The rest of you can settle for Festivus
by Mondogarage on Sep 27, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Quite probably
meaningless sample size but:
256 / .286 / .487 / .773 – Jay Gibbons on the road.
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by David Young on Sep 27, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Interesting factoid in
tweet from Josh Fisher @DodgerDivorce:
When McCourts looked at Dodgers, just eleven of thirty-six suites were sold. Small sample size though…
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Jamie probably saw this
and said, “oooh look Frankie, I can get 4 or 5 luxury boxes! One in the right field corner, one down the third base line, one right behind the plate with a swimming pool, and another right next to it!”
This is funny
According to Bob Nightengale of USA Today, the Rangers have inked a 20-year, $3 billion television extension with Fox Sports Southwest.
The Rangers will make an outrageous $150 million per year via the new television contract, which should go a long way toward helping the club in offseason negotiations with left-hander Cliff Lee and in negotiations with MVP candidate Josh Hamilton down the road. For reference, the Dodgers make only $45 per year on their current television deal with Fox Sports West.
One
where is this from? Two, I think (hope) the word “million” got left out there. Three, why would the writer consider that figure “outrageous”? What else can you do in the Dallas/Ft..Worth in the brutal summer heat besides stay inside where it’s cool, watch TV and wait for football season to start? And isn’t the Dodger deal considered paltry – why compare a low-end deal?
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by David Young on Sep 27, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s from Rotoworld. The $45 part cracked me up, even though it’s probably a typo.
by silverwidow on Sep 27, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Rangers deal seems like a good comp in the next round of negotiations with Fox (assuming Dodgers Media Network is not ready to be launched.)
by Michael White on Sep 27, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I suppose an extra $100mil a year in revenue could help. That’s like 3 Mexican Riviera homes per year for Jamie.
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
Thats like the whole teams salary
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
Wouldn’t Fox/advertisers care about viewers as opposed to ratings? Maybe not, I really have no idea….
by Michael White on Sep 27, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
ratings should be meaningless because they are never going to compete with regular prime time viewing. all about the amount of viewers.
"We were never friends"
they aren’t competing with regular prime time viewing, but they are competing with other cable channels for advertising dollars. Pepsi isn’t going to use ratings to calculate how much to spend on advertising on Syfy then switch to households just cause it’s dealing with a regional sports network
by Josie Becker on Sep 27, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
yes but no. The ratings are meaningless compared to the national ratings we’re all used to seeing. The rating is generated using HH #s over estimated HHs in Los Angeles, and I don’t think I’ve ever seen local ratings for LA which can be really wonky, like a Saints game broadcast nationally on Fox getting a 40 share in New Orleans
by Josie Becker on Sep 27, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow
The # of Households figures seem WAY low. 92k households watch each Dodger game? I figured that figure would be about 5-10x that, at minimum. Is that because of MLB’s blackout rules?
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
What would be your basis of comparsion that the 92k number seems low? I honestly would have no idea even how to estimate that.
by Michael White on Sep 27, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Maybe there are not that many baseball fans after all.
I have always wondered how many different people account for the approx 3.5 million that come through the turnstiles. Maybe 1.5m?
"We were never friends"
I would guess there are a lot of fans who go to a couple of games a year but never watch on TV, except for playoffs.
See and I assumed the average fan watches 2-4 games per week on TV and goes to about 1 game every month on average.
How, then, if 92k is accurate, do teams get 9 figures a year to broadcast commercials to 92000 people per day? That seems like a poor use of resources from the outside looking in. I would think for $150million you could reach far more people than those who actually watch the between innings commercials.
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
According to the link above
You’re talking about only 65k+ for the Rangers.
It tends to be a fairly valuable audience demographically, and also sports is usually watched lived— not much time shifting or commercial skipping. The Rangers deal does seem like a lot but it sounds like NewsCorp really likes the local sportsnet business.
The average fan thinks our biggest problems are Chad Billingsley and losing Juan Pierre, there’s no way you’d come to that by watching 13 games a month.
The amount of people who care about late July baseball are incredibly low.
by regfairfield on Sep 27, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I have no factual basis or past knowledge of things like this, but here is my thinking:
Last year’s attendance: 3,761,653 total, 46,440 per game.
So, 92k is roughly twice what the in game viewership is. Granted, 1 HH =/= 1 person, but let’s assume 1HH = 2.5 people (I’m sure there is a statistic for this) we’re only talking about 230k people watching each game.
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
How many people per household though?
I mean how many individual household are represented in the stands at a game?
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
...the bowels of my misery.
poetic for sure. That sums of 2010. Thank you trio of terror for causing the whole in the stomach lining to grow even larger this year.
If anyone still cares about the playoffs
here are the odds my simulator gives each of the Giants, Padres and Braves at making the playoffs using the remaining schedule and pitching matchups. My sim slightly favors the Giants over the Padres compared to BP and Cool Standings.
1. Giants
NL West: 71.68%
Wild-Card: 16.06%
Overall: 87.74%
2. Braves
Wild-Card: 56.28%
3. Padres
NL West: 28.30%
Wild-Card: 27.66%
Overall: 55.96%
The NL West wild-card is a tie around 24% of the time. This could be trouble for the two teams that tie as both will be shooting their pitching wad on the last weekend.
Note: Braves still have around a 0.01 chance of winning the NL East, but I just assumed 0% for this exercise.
Still plenty of time for the Giants to be on the outside looking in.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 27, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
ihopeihopeihope
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 27, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm stuck rooting for the Braves (and their fans lame tomahawk chop) and the Padres
FML.
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by David Young on Sep 27, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
I can’t root for the Braves. If they win all the Braves fans around here will suddenly remember that they’re supposed to care.
"There’s no reason I can give you that makes sense. A lot of what I do is a feel thing."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Sep 27, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
The NL is almost all worst-case scenario for me
I can’t root for Cincinnati – too many memories of the Big Red Machine, though I like several of their players – and I hate the Tomahawk chop. The Phillies and Giants go without saying. The Padres are my best choice?! Ugh.
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by David Young on Sep 27, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
I tell myself I could root for the Reds, and then I remember that they hired Joe Morgan this year. So I’m back to an AL team not in New York.
"There’s no reason I can give you that makes sense. A lot of what I do is a feel thing."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Sep 27, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I still prefer to root for the non-DH league
but the teams I could stomach are all in the NL, your same trio, although the Twins and Rays are ahead of the Rangers on my list.
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by David Young on Sep 27, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
My simulator says
the Dodgers odds are 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%
A time machine might be invented.
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by David Young on Sep 27, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Precedence
66 – 3 UCLA in Austin vs. Texas, 1997.
Beating Tennessee in Knoxville early in the season two years ago seemed impressive too, at the time. Maybe Texas is in a down year and just didn’t know it yet.
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by David Young on Sep 27, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure I read that John Lindsey
plays baseball in the fall/winter in Mexico to supplement his income. That’s going to be hard to do while recovering from his broken hand. Poor guy. OTOH, the $61K he earns this month in the majors, and the health insurance coverage for his hand will help.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Isn’t standard recovery time (especially since he doesn’t need surgery) something like 6 weeks? Perhaps he could be ready to play by the second week of November.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 27, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
I was thinking 8 weeks with rehab, and maybe Thanksgiving time
but I have no idea how far in advance those teams sign those players, if they take them on later, etc. He probably does have some connections. OTOH, maybe with the one-month of MLB pay in his bank account (plus the per diem he is probably not spending all of), maybe the guy actually gets to stay home with his family for the holidays.
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by David Young on Sep 27, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
It is 107 outside
The only reason I did not call in sick today was to come to work for the AC.
"We were never friends"
I had the rotten luck of falling ill in the middle of the last heat wave
with my shitty AC and windows at home.
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
just
illin’?
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by David Young on Sep 27, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
definately not chillin
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 27, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Heat
I feel sorry for those of you who work/live inland where the temps are well over 100 today. My office is along the coast and I will headed over to the beach later this afternoon to put my toes in the cold ocean water.
This from the National Weather Service:
Downtown LA looks liek a lock to break a record for today…with a high around 110 not out of the question…Resulting in the warmest day in over 20 years.
Perfect weather for Eric and his scorpion collection.
my poor Dad :(
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 27, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I think it's about 112
at my house today. One of the few times I’ve left my air conditioning on so the dogs don’t melt.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
Its "only" 109 here
in S Riverside Co. But that is in the shade.
Its only 106 in Irvine today
Glad I left my dogs inside today
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
It was just tweeted that downtown LA has hit 113 degrees today
kvtaspeednews Downtown LA reached 113 degrees at 12:15 PM today, that is the highest temperature ever recorded there since record keeping began in 1877.
Phil’s sophmore year in H.S., right?
it says its 106 in Pasadena
according to yahoo.
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
Not sure if it's been discussed here
but has anyone heard about this supposed talk of expanding the playoffs? Creating two Wild Card teams in each league and having them face off first? I guess it creates something like a buy for the Div champs, giving them more incentive to finish first.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 27, 2010 11:46 AM PDT reply actions
First I’m hearing of this proposal. Who is proposing it? My first reaction is to say that I’m firmly against this idea.
by Michael White on Sep 27, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Selig mentioned something about expanding the number of playoff teams. He’s listening to what the fans want! No we can’t have instant replay, that would be silly.
by regfairfield on Sep 27, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
The "proposal", if my memory serves, came from Jayson Stark in a column a couple of weeks ago
May have been a different writer, was definitely from ESPN. And it came out right about the time it was dead certain the Red Sox were going to miss the playoffs, obv.
ROCKTEMBER - Time for Some F***ing Guy to Shine
ROCKTEMBER - The month before we play Mora playoff games
ROCKTEMBER - The rest of you can settle for Festivus
Will the two Wild Card teams play a best-of-3 series?
by silverwidow on Sep 27, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah, that’s what I heard is the preference
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 27, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
Strong Bad FTW
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 27, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m in a good mood today.
someone just sent me a Bourbons and Lacs ringtone. Pretty pumped about that.
Incentive to win the division. People complaining that the NYA/TB division race doesn’t have much meaning. Everything is Yankee centric.
Everything is Yankee centric.
MLB 2011 slogan
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 27, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
No kidding
that Steinbrenner 30 for 30 was barely about George. Ultimate Fail. About the stupid stadiums, the stupid fans and Hal. I rode the FF button hard through that.
"We were never friends"
I fell asleep watching it, it was so boring.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 27, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
that part where they were showing that the bleachers blocked part of the view, i was like “How did they not notice that in the design stage?”
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 27, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
That and the Red Sox are gonna miss the playoffs.
by regfairfield on Sep 27, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Conviction
Still reminds me of how sad it was that these young folks had their lives taken from them too soon, plus one permanently injured. Link.
A jury convicted a man of [second-degree] murder Monday in the drunken-driving deaths of promising Los Angeles Angels pitcher Nick Adenhart and two other people.
The jury also found Andrew Gallo, 23, guilty of hit-and-run and driving under the influence of alcohol and causing great bodily injury.
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I would like to believe this would be an example
and stop people from making the same mistake. Sadly I don’t believe it will.
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
Just in case you forgot about this pre-season nugget
Is Clayton Kershaw already declining? Uh, FUCK NO!
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@jon_heyman kershaw may be regressing faster than billingsley. not sure. close competition. #howcanbradpennybebetterthanboth?
by regfairfield on Sep 27, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
and how many starts
did Penny make again?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 27, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
isn't it obvious
Who’s my Ace? Who’s my Ace pitcher?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 27, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
weird
I said “He’s blowing on Clayton’s tummy to tickle him”
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 27, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
and by weird, i meant “I typed that originally, and it didn’t show up.”
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 27, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Did I miss mention of this here?
From a late Wednesday article, that I found linked in Saturday’s Dodger Thoughts.
Sands then hit 17 homers in 68 games at Double-A. He will try to learn third base in the Arizona Fall League.Get Nate Purcell on assignment immediately!
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Welp, we just found Blake’s replacement.
by silverwidow on Sep 27, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
i did hear that
verrrryyy interesting.
I just wonder, if he proves that he is adept at the position, would we see him in Chavez Ravine all the sooner. (I’m sure the answer is yes, very yes!!)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 27, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
The final day of the minor league season, when Sands played 3B, I happened to be at Dodger Stadium, and I was asking the PR staff (a) to confirm that the box score wasn’t wrong, and (b) is this a real thing, but outside of confirming his appearance at 3B they didn’t have any answers going forward, at least not on that day.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 27, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
i wonder how much 3B he'll actually play in the AFL
since there are quite a few other players and teams involved. I remember Russell Mitchell was listed as a catcher on the AFL roster either last year or the year before, but he never actually played there even though they thought about giving him reps behind the plate
by Brandon Lennox on Sep 27, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
who is he?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 27, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
shows how much i really know about football
well sorry all you Raider fans, and just football fans in general.
RIP Mr. Blanda
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 27, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
just your standard 26-year pro football career, playing QB, then shifting to kicker to extend your career and playing occasional QB.
Played at age 48.
Was a badass.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 27, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
A question that has been deemed obsolete with the existence of Google, that packs so much more sting these days.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 27, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you have a 3 strikes policy with posters?
1. Hates Dr Pepper
2. Doesn’t know about George Blanda
3. ????
I eat strawberries
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 27, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
He is dickless?
"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein
I’m pretty sure he’s calling me a homosexual. Or maybe bi.
by regfairfield on Sep 27, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
ain’t nothing wrong with a little experimenting
by Josie Becker on Sep 27, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah
i should have just done, that might have saved so many people some tears.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 27, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
seems I've offended quite a few of you with my ignorance
sorry about that. I decided to look up Mr. Blanda, as I enjoy reading about famous sports icons. Wow, is all I can really say.
I particularly liked this quote about his longevity.
Chiefs’ owner Lamar Hunt quipped, “Why, this George Blanda is as good as his father, who used to play for Houston.”
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 27, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it’s funny. I doubt anyone is really offended……..
Well, when Phil reads this he is gonna rage!
probably
I think he has grudges against me other than Dr. Pepper.
To be fair, Mr. Blanda stopped playing about 8 years before I was born.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 27, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
and when was the last time the Raiders where relevant
/ducks
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
Its ok Tommy
I didn’t know either.
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
I am old enough
to remember watching 43-year old George Blanda’s improbable play at QB for the 1970 Oakland Raiders on a black and white television. The Raiders were awesome in black and white.
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by David Young on Sep 27, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Color TV ruined the Raiders?
I know they’ve been bad lately, but I didn’t know the introduction of color TV was responsible.
(Will HD help them turn around?)
People don't think it be like this, but it do.
by MartinGreen on Sep 27, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I dunno if black gets blacker in HD? I think the Raiders should take advantage of this new addition of yellow to the RGB scheme
by Josie Becker on Sep 27, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
depends on what kinda TV you're using
LCD gets the best black so I hear, correct me if I’m wrong someone.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 27, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I've heard plasma gets the best black
I’ve also heard the average human being doesn’t give a shit.
"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein
Better in black and white than they've ever been in black and silver
/rimshot
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Dear Old People
the young should not be expected to know of your obscure heroes.
by Josie Becker on Sep 27, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Adults today!
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
lol, thanks Josie
to be fair, not the first time I’ve accidently incurred the wrath of a Raider fan. One time in the car, I brought up the “tuck rule” to my older brother who is a Raider fan. I thought he was gonna crash the car we were in.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 27, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Raiders and Chargers fans
are a crochety bunch. It happens.
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
now now with the generalizations. Sports fans are crotchety, regardless of sport or affiliation
by Josie Becker on Sep 27, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Some fanbases more so then others
but what you said is fact.
"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein
^^^what you said
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
Are you all under the assumption that one had to be a Raiders fan to know who the NFL’s all-time leader in games played and points (at least until recently) was?
oh yes I assume that’s the stat all little boys idolize growing up “someday, I want to plays more games in the NFL than anyone else”
I actually knew who George Blanda is but c’mon, I don’t know the name of the guy whose the record for most field goals made
by Josie Becker on Sep 27, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Off the top of my head
is it Morten Andersen or Jan Stenerud?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Andersen, I believe.
"There’s no reason I can give you that makes sense. A lot of what I do is a feel thing."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Sep 27, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I wasn’t addressing you with my comment, but since you responded … you’re missing my point.
by JonWeisman on Sep 27, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
good point
but I again make my claim that while I enjoy football, It doesn’t draw me in like Baseball does.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 27, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I bet some football nerds
have deemed those stats irrelevant and made up a whole bunch of new ones to prove how smart they are.
"We were never friends"
by delias man on Sep 27, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
lol
rec
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 27, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Its funny because they are trying to
but the stats community for football is still in its infancy, and most of their stats are suspect.
"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein
He’s a Hall of Famer. Blanda isn’t Napoleon Kaufman.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 27, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Naturally, you have opened yourself up to the challenge that you can name every hall of famer in the NFL.
by Michael White on Sep 27, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
He didn't play in the 1990s-2000s and didn't have an offseason reality show
And didn’t date or shag a Kardashian.
Clearly he wasn’t very good.
/would like to see Favre try to lead a comeback whine win in five years
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Exactly
George Blanda retired before ESPN existed. So he probably never even played pro football.
What’s this AFL thing everyone keeps referring to?
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I'de like to see him try now
having a bad season so far
"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein
Not that he can name them all
but that he would recognize the name of each HOFer when it is stated. Time to play the “HOFer or not?” game?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Trick question
Both! Seriously, the Browns wore a patch for him just two seasons ago. We can get much more obscure than that.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
HOF
not to be confused with Carl Karcher! :)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 27, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
HOF or Presidential Candidate
John Henry Johnson
by Josie Becker on Sep 27, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm going with "none of the above"
Them three name guys are always assassins.
Josie, remember that admonition
When 20+ years from now, college kids don’t know what “The Family Guy” was.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
considering someone recently made a remake of Battlestar Galactica, I challenge that claim. However I see your point. But I barely know anyone now who’s ever heard of Firefly, unless were all gathered and unshowered at a convention
by Josie Becker on Sep 27, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
How about
… don’t know who “Landon Donovan” was.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Didn't Landon Donovan serve as administrator of the Cloud City or something?
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by Mondogarage on Sep 27, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I thought he sang
Mellow Yellow, 
which that TV company should use to advertise their new addition of yellow to the RGB scheme.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
More like “what was Major League Soccer dad?”
“Well son, that was the second failed attempt to have pro soccer in the United States.”
"There’s no reason I can give you that makes sense. A lot of what I do is a feel thing."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Sep 27, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
I love the antagonism toward soccer. There’s such venom to see MLS fail. Almost like soccer succeeding means the communists win or something like that. NASL never build soccer specific stadiums, and didn’t have a salary cap to control salaries. MLS is here to stay folks, time to deal with that reality
by Josie Becker on Sep 27, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Best of Luck MLS.
Real talk, I don’t wish the league to fail. But I have 0 interest in it.
I like my soccer from accross the pond!
I am down to support anything that Josie supports though.
I have to stand by my woman…….I didn’t mean to make that public.
I read an article about soccer budgets across the pond, they’re absolutely ridiculous! 500 million pounds being spent on a sports team? And there’s no roster limit so GMs just keep buying talent like it’s popcorn
by Josie Becker on Sep 27, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
You can look at a team like Arsenal, ManU, Chelsea, ManCity,Liverpool and the number of young players they have under their control. It is staggering.
Liverpool traditionally found players right in the city. The sainted Robbie Fowler was a local. They still have their youth academy, but obviously the internationalization of the game has affected the Mighty Reds like every other team..
"There’s no reason I can give you that makes sense. A lot of what I do is a feel thing."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Sep 27, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
because you’re interested in buying an Austrian soccer club?
by Josie Becker on Sep 27, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Crazy talk
You had no problem shitting on “old people” in a joking manner regarding George Blanda, yet you take the above comment directed as a joke on you seriously.
by Michael White on Sep 27, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
It was a joke.
"There’s no reason I can give you that makes sense. A lot of what I do is a feel thing."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Sep 27, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
my joking manner spurred no end of comments, and it’s not like I came out “hey guys I was just kidding” there’s a kernel of truth in all this humour
by Josie Becker on Sep 27, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
gotta wonder
if Firefly was on a network that actually gave a shit about it like SciFi cared about BSG, would it have lasted longer?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 27, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m gonna go onna limb and say never underestimate how expensive actors are
by Josie Becker on Sep 27, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
sad thing is
you didn’t make that up.
I remember one time me and my relatives were just sitting around joking about what animal they’d make a monster movie out of next.
My younger brother won with “Woodpecker”
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 27, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
dont understand why all the SoCal weather people were whining about the mild temps during the summer
cause this is hell.
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
best thing about working for a company that has tons and tons of electrical equipment
…air conditioning!
The beautiful thing about baseball
is that you could watch a game from almost any era and while there might be slight differences, the game is pretty much the same.
You cannot watch an NBA game from probably before 1980 without it feeling much different and really the NFL has changed the rules so much to promote offense, it is not the same game that was played when the Raiders last won a Super Bowl.
Even before that
Look at games before the west coast offense.
"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein
I bet Eric loved this stat
on today’s DT post:
[Ted] Lilly enters the final week with 12 homers and 11 walks allowed as a Dodger. Don Newcombe (1958) and Terry Mulholland (2002) are the only Dodgers to allow more homers than walks in a season, minimum 10 homers allowed.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
It was awesome
and even excerpted in the soon-to-come game preview :)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 27, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Obama to sell naming rights to hurricanes
I can see it now, “‘Hurricane Giants Suck’ ravages Eastern seaboard”
http://www.crystalair.com/story.php?id=201009005
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
funny this should be posted today
sometime this week (probably on Thursday, the Dodgers day off), I’m planning on writing a brief fan post about how the atrocity that is Loney’s second half perhaps IS injury related. Not that this is excuses it, and in fact, would probably make it even worse for him not saying anything. But even those who have been clamoring for the end of the Loney era for some time- and admittedly, they have the upper hand now- have to admit it has been a tale of two seasons no less for James Loney than for Broxton, and he was actually pretty good for slightly more than half the season. I’m just trying to think of reasons why it could have fallen apart.
All of these guys supposedly hiding injuries…I understand it’s the end of a long season, but what has to happen for a trainer to be fired?
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
When David Freese got hurt St Louis literally operated on the wrong leg. Sooooo….arson?
by regfairfield on Sep 27, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
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