Kuroda Looks For First Win At Coors Field
by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2010 2:00 PM PDT
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PrintThe Dodgers could have a chance to deliver the death blow to the Rockies tonight in the second game of their series at Coors Field. A Braves win over Florida coupled with a Rockies loss will eliminate Colorado from the postseason.
Hiroki Kuroda makes his third career start at Coors Field tonight, and he has given up five earned runs in each of the previous two starts, one in 2008 and one in 2010. The total numbers at Coors aren't pretty for Kuroda: 10 innings, 19 hits, 12 runs (10 earned), two walks, five strikeouts.
Since the All-Star break, Kuroda is 4-6 with a 2.57 ERA, with 11 unintentional walks and 71 strikeouts. He has 11 quality starts in 13 outings, and has averaged 6.74 innings per start. He has pitched 190 innings this year, an MLB career high, and will likely have today and Sunday to try to get to 200 innings for the first time.
Jeff Francis has battled left shoulder problems all season after missing all of 2009 after undergoing shoulder surgery. He has made two starts this month, pitching a total of 6 2/3 innings. Francis allowed five runs in 5 1/3 innings, taking the loss on May 28 in Denver.
James Loney & Club 60
There have been 16 Los Angeles Dodgers with 60 runs batted in before the All-Star break, including James Loney with 63 this season. However, Loney's second half has seen quite a drop in production, and he has 21 RBI after the break. Loney will likely have the fewest "second half" RBI of any member of Club 60:
| LA Dodgers With 60 RBI Before All-Star Break |
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| Player |
Year |
1st Half RBI |
2nd Half RBI |
| Tommy Davis |
1962 |
90 |
63 |
| Shawn Green |
2001 |
64 |
61 |
| Steve Garvey |
1974 |
65 |
46 |
| Wes Parker |
1970 |
65 |
46 |
| Jeff Kent |
2005 |
60 |
45 |
| Mike Piazza |
1996 |
63 |
42 |
| Steve Garvey |
1980 |
66 |
40 |
| Jim Wynn |
1974 |
69 |
39 |
| Gary Sheffield |
2000 |
71 |
38 |
| Eric Karros |
2000 |
70 |
36 |
| Steve Garvey |
1977 |
80 |
35 |
| Ron Cey |
1977 |
76 |
34 |
| Ron Cey |
1974 |
64 |
33 |
| Russell Martin |
2007 |
60 |
27 |
| James Loney |
2010 |
63 |
21 |
Piazza actually had 16 RBI after the All-Star break in 1994, after a 76-RBI first half, but that season was shortened by the strike.
Keep in mind that the All-Star break is almost always after the actual halfway point of the season. For instance, the Dodgers played 88 games before this year's break, and have played 69 games since, with five more games to go. Raise your hand if you remembered Martin having 60 RBI before the break in 2007.
Notes
- A.J. Ellis, who drove in an insurance run with an RBI single last night in the ninth inning, has six hits and a walk in his last nine plate appearances with runners in scoring position.
- A pair of Rockies battling the flu have good career numbers against Kuroda, as Seth Smith is 6-for-11 with a triple and Ian Stewart is 6-for-10
- Matt Kemp is hitting .308/.296/.500 with two doubles and a home run in 27 plate appearances against Francis, the best numbers of any Dodger with 10 PA against the southpaw. The home run came this season.
- Loney is 1-for-15 with two walks and five strikeouts against Francis, but they haven't faced each other since 2008. Casey Blake is 1-for-14 against Francis, including 0-for-2
- Tuesday is the Dodgers' most successful day of the season, as they are 14-10
Game Time: 5:40 p.m.
TV: KCAL
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First
Time I’ve started Kuroda on my fantasy team over the last month. So as such, he will probably have a terrible game.
I didn’t specifically remember Martin having 60 RBI before the break, but I do vividly recall (a) first-half discussions that Martin was the future of the franchise, (b) ongoing and increasingly frantic discussions that he was being overworked and that would lead to a drop-off, and © the drop-off in his production that occurred after the break.
Regarding © — what I also didn’t remember is that in the middle of August, Martin started hitting well again. Ya learn something new every day.
Fuck You Ruiz
Tuesday is the Dodgers’ most successful day of the season, as they are 14-10
Hooray for Tuesday?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuOXG1VmcJc
…as Smith says, he’s doing a cover: The Minders.
Fuck You Ruiz
Prediction on Scott Elbert?
Bust or will he finally get to stay with a major league club in 2011?
I think he’s out of options BTW
Insert snarky comment
in which someone predits another year of lack of information about just what Elbert is doing with his time.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 28, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Did he ever really shuttle back and forth? He came up in 2008 when rosters expanded and stayed up (I think) and ditto for 2009 (when he was also on the playoff roster.) He came up once in 2010 and then left to find himself. Not exactly DeWitt circa 2009 and Link circa 2010
by Michael White on Sep 28, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
If he’s out of options, I think he’s gone.
If he’s not, I predict he will win the 6th man in the rotation role (because he’s still probably better than Ely and Monk) and will be the first pitcher called up for a spot start.
by Michael White on Sep 28, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Predicting bust
Unless he somehow finds his command between now and April ’11
I completely disagree
I think he’ll be the throw-in in the Kemp-for-Melky deal.
After all, the Dodgers will have to give up more than just Kemp to get a player like Melky Cabrera. Did you know he used to be a Yankee?
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 28, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Brett Gardner is actually a good player, so I approve.
by regfairfield on Sep 28, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Until he’s not.
There’s still only one George Brett. He’s a lefty playing in New Yankees Stadium, a park suited for his skills. Putting him in DS might make him Juan Pierre/Scotty Pods.
Juan Pierre ain’t never had a .380 on base. Good on base skills and good defense gives him two things Pierre and Scotty Pods don’t have.
by regfairfield on Sep 28, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
The only time he shown these on base skills is when he repeated a league in the minors.
Also, if you want OBP, we should bring back Russell Martin.
And you know, this year.
Brett Gardner is good. Russell Martin is okay is certainly better than the alternatives.
by regfairfield on Sep 28, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
gardners skill is not pull power
so how is he suited for yyankee stadium???
his skill is OBP and defense
Also, its obvious Scott Elbert will be a pirate.
Since we treat the Pirates as the AAAA team. We pick up their crappy vets and send them our discarded prospects.
Who was the last crappy vet from the Pirates before Dotel?
by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Manny Ramirez!
Not “from the Pirates,” but same diff for accounting purposes.
Oh, wait — was Manny crappy?
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 28, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
As I contemplate next season
The 2B market really sucks. We’re probably stuck with Theriot again just because there are no better options. A couple okay options after next season (Uggla, Kelly Johnson, Brandon Phillips), but for 2011 it’s garbage. If we’re getting any production from 2B next year, it’ll be via trade.
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
Gil Scott-Heron was slightly mistaken…
The revolution will not be televised… but…
…Theriot Will Be Televised
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 28, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Let's leave the The Riot
jokes with the drunks in the bleachers at Wrigley please.
"We were never friends"
You're right and I apologize.
I am a much, much higher class of drunk: I drink gin.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 28, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Though I refuse to eat at JR
because of their ownership.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
Human fan
Snyder has bankrupted JR by using it like an ATM, causing a lot of employees a lot of stress. Same thing he did with Six Flags.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
Yep
If people start losing their jobs, I’ll have to reexamine my fandom
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
I could be mistaken
and also realize its a sign of the times, but weren’t several scouts and FO types laid off earlier this year?
You have a no firing policy for being a baseball fan?
by Michael White on Sep 28, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
not a no-firing policy
but a no layoff because you raided the pantry policy
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
and I realize
I sound a little sanctimonious
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
Don't know what happened there
But…
and I realize
I sound a little sanctimonious and I’m doing a bit of cherry picking. Just Snyder pisses me off.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
I think its more of claiming that you’re going through hard times, and have to cut jobs while you just bought $100 million in real estate.
Its like what happened in Bell. They claimed there was no money while they gave themselves huge pay increases over the last couple of years.
Bell is slightly different — I mean, those guys are gonna go on trial for fraud, and I would think they’d be convicted and serve jail time. The McCourts can hire and fire whom they please. You don’t have to support them in their decisions, but I haven’t heard anyone suggest that what McCourt’s done is illegal.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 28, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Me either
But I expect the tattoo count is still ginormous.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Isn’t it weird how Six Flags has the best coasters but the worst atmosphere? Like if Knott’s Berry Farm and Six Flags switched crowds, Six Flags would thrive and Knott’s would burn down after the second riot
by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Not just hills…but hills covered with black asphalt, so on a scorching day you give in and pay $7 for the bottled water.
by robotmadeofnails on Sep 28, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
On hot days go to Hurricane Harbor instead
You can get a more accurate tattoo count there too.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
And yet you want a team in Mexico City, urine bomb capital of the world
by regfairfield on Sep 28, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
urine bomb capital of the world
They should put that on their stamps.
by Michael White on Sep 28, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I have been there and never touched the water
because I escorted a group of young teens. As for the sunburn, wear one of your out-of-vogue minor-league caps!
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I have hair on my head….
I was more worried about my torso. I guess I can wear an out-of-vogue raider jersey. Philip Buchanon or Tyrone Wheatley?
"We were never friends"
Ugh, Tyrone Wheatley. Giants wasted a first round draft pick on that clown and never did shit in New York.
Big Ten running backs are pretty much guaranteed to be a bust.
by Michael White on Sep 28, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Johnny Rockets serves “American Fries”, so that place can go straight to hell.
by regfairfield on Sep 28, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Ruby’s or Johnny Rockets
50s Diner on SM Blvd.
I used to live half a block from there, so I used to eat there all the time.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 28, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I mostly ate there because it was ultra-convenient greasy diner food
I don’t have any great love for the 1950s.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 28, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
You mean you didn’t like it when you have to sit in the back of the bus, give up your seat for a white man, or pee in a separate toilet?
That is exactly what I was thinking.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 28, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
There's been a coffee shop (not a coffee house) at that location
for as long as I can remember, and that dates back to passing by there in the 1960s on the way to the airport to pick up / drop off relatives, but I’ve never set foot in there.
Another place I’ve never been in but fits this retro genre is Mel’s Drive-In (multiple locations). Anyone know if it is any good? Or is just like Ruby’s, Johnny Rockets?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
It’s worse but more expensive than Ruby’s and Johnny Rockets. There are actual reasons to go to Ruby’s though
by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Worse? Really?
Thanks for the tip.
Hey, was just on campus – had lunch with the daughter at CPK in the Marina.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
On campus Cal? Or on campus LMU? Must be LMU, cause a CPK at the Berkeley Marina would be news to me. Neat! I’m stuck in the LMU library myself
by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
LMU, of course
Picked her up and dropped her off at U Hall. Is the library nice? Watched it built but haven’t set foot in it yet. Spectacular views it seems.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
oh it’s freaking fantastic. The size of Berkeley’s Undergraduate Library but I guess every school can’t have the third largest collection in the country with 18 separate libraries. UHall is bitchin, with those indoor trees, though it’s freezing at night when my classes are.
LMU is super modern, I love it, but then you lose out on character a bit
by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
There is still character
in the older part of campus, but that is part of the trade-off. UHall used to be the corporate headquarters of the Hughes Aircraft Co. I worked for them at the time and was actually in that building a few times when it was in that guise. We workers called it the Taj Majal and thought the huge inner courtyard was tremendously wasted space. And the escaltors were stupid for the small amount of foot traffic it had to move. It actually functions better in its current usage.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Essentially, I perceive LMU as
just large enough (and monied enough) to have really good resource, yet small enough not to feel like an impersonal diploma factory.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I’d rather just go to Norm’s.
Oh, you meant the 1950’s scene, not Over 50 scene?
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
This
I do not understand how Conrad’s in Pasadena remains a viable business.
by robotmadeofnails on Sep 28, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
It's nostalgia there for me
That’s the kind of coffee shop my parents took us kids to for dinner in the 1970s.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
That will be my scene soon enough
I’m sure I’ll find Phil there.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I don't think I've had a Fatburger
in over 20 years.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
It’s been at least a decade for me I think, and at no time have I seen the lights of the Goodyear Blimp afterwards.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I have felt like I have
passed a few Goodyear Blimps afterwards though.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
too damn expensive
"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein
Mels has the advantage of being the only place in LA open after midnight where you don’t have to shout into a clown.
by regfairfield on Sep 28, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
There’s an In-N-Out open after midnight?
by regfairfield on Sep 28, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
every in-n-out i’ve ever encountered is open to at least 1:30
by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
They usually open later on Fridays/Saturdays.
When I worked there in high school (1994), we were open until 12:30 normally, and 1:30 on Friday/Saturday.
I am open to the idea that things may have changed slightly in the last 16 years though :)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Is that a recent development, because I could have sworn it closed at midnight?
by regfairfield on Sep 28, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I graduated in 2006, it could just be that I made the decision to never go passed midnight because the line was too freaking long.
by regfairfield on Sep 28, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
"dead" being relative
to normal in and out times
"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein
I never made it to
Ed Debevic’s in Beverly Hills either. Closed several years ago.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I cannot believe that upthread we are talking about pricing
and nobody has mentioned the outrage that is the five-dollar milkshake.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 28, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I vote neither. Ruby’s and JR aren’t in my rotation.
i recently tried the 5 guys in Orange (yeah, it’s okay but not worth the hype) and the Habit in Fullerton (lower priced and better value for the dough; not much hype which probably helped). They’d get my vote over those two, as would Sonic for that matter.
I recently found the following hamburger blog for non-chain places. Most of the places are around here or up on NorCal; haven’t had a chance to try any of these joints but in case you’re intereseted: http://thehamblogger.com/
by KellyStephen on Sep 28, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I like the drinks there
Cherry limeade!
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
How much is five guys?
I went to one in Washington DC and it cost 11 bucks for a cheesburger(auto double) fries and a drink
"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein
ruby
de la rosa is way better… his fastball puts him above rockets..
by matthewmafa on Sep 28, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Should have mentioned In-n-Out…still the best IMHO
by KellyStephen on Sep 28, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Last Christmas, I was at a party with the guy who wrote the In & Out jingle. He did it as a job of work — a one-time flat fee of $3,000. His attitude seemed one of slight amazement that they were still using the same jingle all these years on.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 28, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I once worked with an ad guy
who came up with the Hamms Bear and the jingle.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
Apparently I have to move to
Rancho Cucamonga now, or as Michael Scott would say Cuuuuuu-camonga. I for one welcome this closer to Los Angeles and less drugged addled city into my life.
Like Jack Benny,
I say it Cuc………………….
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 28, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Did Benny say it himself
Or was it a voice-over (Mel Blanc?) behind him?
And I beat you to this reference a thread or two ago!
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Yes, I believe it was Mel Blanc. But it was Benny’s show, so he gets the credit. Frankly I think Benny — or, more imporantly, the persona he adpoted — would agree with me.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 28, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know who said it, but i agree with moving the team to Long Beach. I’d actually be able to catch a game once in awhile instead of driving 70 miles from the beach.
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
It’d be like the Jints and the San Jose Jints. I for one support this move.
by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Where in Long Beach
is there enough land for a Class-A stadium?
And could class-A ballplayers afford to live anywhere near there? Maybe Josie would host a few of them.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
and I’ll always leave the [red] light on in my future apartment
by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2010 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
They gonna split time there with the Dirtbags?
Does the Armada play there currently?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
It really is quite nice
"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein
It won’t play. You’d be 6 hour time difference from East Coast home teams, so a Yankees/hawaii game would either ALWAYS be a day game or it would start at 1am EST.
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
First question: you would put the team in Honolulu, I suppose? What is the population of Honolulu? Can it support a ML team?
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 28, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
There’s no audience, and it’s a 10 hour flight to the East Coast.
But think of how many beers Wade Boggs could drink on the flight.
by regfairfield on Sep 28, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Not true. Several Japanese and Korean leagues use Hawaii as their spring training grounds. Also, the instructional league was in Hawaii until last year, when it was moved to Ariz.
And how many people showed up to these games?
by regfairfield on Sep 28, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I think MLB should concentrate on actually lucrative markets first. Like a second team in the growing PNW or a team in the south
by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Portland would make for an interesting Mariners rival. Or a Columbus, SC team.
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
I fully support Portland being the 5th AL West Member, and South Carolina being the 6th NL West Member. Would have to then also support a franchise in Omaha to round out scheduling in the AL and a franchise in Salt Lake? in the NL West for the same reason
by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Oklahoma City would probably be the next best bet over Omaha. Did you mean NL West or NL East?
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
and I was thinking Omaha would appreciate a ML replacement for the CWS, but yeah the competition with KS probably throws it right out
by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
We had this convo a while ago, and it was very difficult to come up with geographically logical divisions. I think , ( if we ever actually came to a good conclusion) it involved moving the Brewers back to the AL and other pretty serious changes.
by Michael White on Sep 28, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah. Portland didn’t support a minor league team, I’m not sure a major league team would do much better.
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
But I still see Oklahoma City and the way they’ve rallied around the Thunder and wonder if the Rays wouldn’t mind it there.
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
Maybe you should give OKC more than 3 years (and having Kevin Durant) befor calling at a success. Logically,why would it do any better than in Tampa Bay?
by Michael White on Sep 28, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Not my theory
but I have heard the logic is that there is more recreational activities in Florida (like San Diego) and absolutely nothing to do in OKC so more fan support in the dust bowl. Intuitively I have to think that there are more sports fans per capita in OKC than a city like Tampa, but I could easily be wrong.
Having more sports fans per capita is irrelevant. I can’t imagine Los Angeles has a particularly high number of sports fans per capita (let alone baseball.) Having more sports fans is what matters.
by Michael White on Sep 28, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Per Wikipedia
Population
Oklahoma City-Norman – Shawnee CSA: 1,275,758
Tampa Bay CSA: 4,000,000 (13th in US)
by Michael White on Sep 28, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
What is the split
between fixed-income and working folks? ;-)
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Ahh good point
I was thinking of just the cities.
But isn’t it weird to have a minor league team without a pro team nearby, at least in terms of creating a fan base that follows both?
by robotmadeofnails on Sep 28, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Didn’t we try that with the Expos part time? The travel schedule was horrific. Mexico City would be a nice central time zone (Mountain?) addition with a huge population.
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
With Puerto Rico, you can avoid issues you had with Canada, such as different taxation policies and currency translation adjustments.
by Michael White on Sep 28, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, if the personal tax rate is higher in Mexico then it is in the United States, you would have to pay out additional salary to attract a player than a team in the States would.
And as you mention, you will probably have some other reasons as to why people won’t want to sign in Mexico City. All told, it would give the club a competitive disadvantage if it would have to buy it’s way out of these weaknesses.
by Michael White on Sep 28, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
pretty much every city in North America that does not already have a team is at a competitive disadvantage.
"We were never friends"
I guess, but Portland would seem much easier to navigate than either Mexico City or Puerto Rico.
by Michael White on Sep 28, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Isn't Portland a huge pot town?
They could build the major-league franchise around Lincecum.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I do like Portland and maintain that a pro team would do very well there.
Portland is basically a “gimme” anyway for expansion. That’s the only really underserved market in the U.S. After that it get’s tough. I’m intrigued by the non-traditional idea of going outside the continental U.S, but I would say that Puerto Rico makes much more sense, not least because it is still the most popular sport on that island.
by Michael White on Sep 28, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
You have avoided that fact
that the AAA team there has closed up shop.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Because they wanted to change the stadium to a major league soccer facility.
Call me crazy, but I think having a professional team in town might draw better than a minor league team.
by Michael White on Sep 28, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Is MLS really any more prestigious
than AAA baseball? Both are pretty low on the totem pole.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
josie is screaming british drivel at you.
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
bunch of bloody wankers, with no appreciation for the beautiful game
by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2010 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m guessing so. MLS is generally found in cities with major league baseball…. and Portland.
by Michael White on Sep 28, 2010 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Poor Beavers, never can catch a break but they have such a great team history. Thus is the nature of MiLB though, until a MLB adopts your name
by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2010 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
16 teams
Columbus, Salt Lake City, San Jose, the only three w/out MLB.
I did not know that the Home Depot Center in Carson hosts two MLS teams.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Chivas USA! But they might be leaving or disbanding or something. Columbus and Salt Lake have proven good sites for every but the top two US sports. San Jose, well I mean the A’s are looking to tap that so…
by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2010 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
But they’re filling their quota in said stadium. The Galaxy sell out at 27k, and New York just built a similar stadia. Even the soccer stadiums in England hover between 25k and 50k
by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Except for Emirates and Old Trafford which bigger. New Wembly too probably but that’s a different case.
it’s hard to build too many seats when you’ve got relegation as a possibility.
by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Part of the stadium issue in England is the availability of land in the area of your team. If a team, say Tottenham, wants to build a new stadium, the only available land may be in East London. They aren’t an E London team.
Stamford Birdge holds around 46,000. No more room for expansion.
and here in America, the Rams move 30 miles and are still considered LA, the Rockies can claim an entire state
by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
If a team like Chelsea moved to another part of London,
they could still be Chelsea, but it wouldn’t be the same.
I liken it to the Yankees moving to Schenectady. They could still be the New York Yankees…..
The Jets and Giants
can play in New Jersey, but the Brooklyn Dodgers could never have moved to Queens.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
The smaller your niche
the more constraints placed upon you. Chelsea is actually in Fulham, not Chelsea. So they have a little bit of room to play with. Man U could play in Hyde and still be Man U. The A’s moving to San Jose would need a name change but the Giants could move anywhere in the Bay Area and still be SF.
by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
they should be the The Bayriders of San Jose, build a park by the water and fill it with Jet Skis
by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I heard that after losing the Sonics, they became more of a soccer city.
This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man.
it’s where a bunch of the season ticket holders went, there and to the Storm. Plus some Seahawks fans view it as a way to have year round Football.
by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Central, I would think
Mexico City is just slightly west of Dallas
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Let's really stretch the limit
and put a team on Guam
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
Rockies lineup
per Thomas Harding:
Fowler CF
Nelson 2B
Cargo LF
Tulo SS
Mora 3B
Helton 1B
Smith RF
iannetta C
Francis P
Eric Young is out for the year with soreness in his right shin.
Clint Barmes is out, with his father, who has cancer.
Im sitting in my 95 degree apartment
and sweating while typing this. . the exercise of champions
by SeanMillerSavior on Sep 28, 2010 3:26 PM PDT reply actions
are you sitting in your command center?
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
pants check
I hate that its over 100 in San Luis Obispo. . .this is absurd
by SeanMillerSavior on Sep 28, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
seriosuly it was 111 yesterday
and now just 103 today .. . Totally underestimated the amount of NorCal hella Giant fans here tho. . .
by SeanMillerSavior on Sep 28, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Are you at Poly?
Its basically a 40/40 split of NorCal and SoCal with the other 20 percent being Central Valley cowboys. Definitely heard Hella for the first time when I started there.
Yeah I just transferred in
The campus is pretty awesome, but the lack of air conditioning in apartment and most of my classrooms is really annoying. Hopefully this heat wave is over ASAP
by SeanMillerSavior on Sep 28, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
The vast majority of the time
You will not need it. The central coast is generally pretty pleasant. Plenty of wineries and microbreweries to hit up too.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Awesoke
But make it special and fly out to Vegas instead. She can glam up!
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Congrats!
That’s for nurse-prac, right? Good for her.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
If you had spelled that
“Hella Kella”, I would have rec’d it.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I knew it!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/30_for_30
There’s now over 30 documentaries for ESPN’s 30 for 30 series.
I do not get the Miller lite ads.
Why do I care if a crappy beer is drunk by guys who have no taste?
The
“it gets you buzzed a little slower” campaign that would work for you won’t appeal their main target demographic.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
i personally don’t understand any beer or liquor ads. Except for that tequlia ad with that hot guy from that tv show.
You enjoy beer more than sex. Your wife is insane and won’t divorce you for having this opinion.
by regfairfield on Sep 28, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I think
she understood that intellectually, but not “personally”.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
The Most Interesting Man in the world commercials
are awesome
by SeanMillerSavior on Sep 28, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
not this one
the guy with the dark hair selling that drink in that bottle with a cap that works as a shot glass or something. Obviously, i didn’t pay attn to the alcohol.
Why would anyone use the bottle top?
Shot glasses are cheap. And cleaner
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
Nah, I’d let him know that I am cool. Just hand me the bottle, I can figure out how much I want. don’t need the lids help.
Tequila that is good enough to drink straight
Should be sipped from a nice glass, a la a good scotch or bourbon.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Yes
and should not have the word Cuervo anywhere on the label
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
How do you
get the rocks into the bottle?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Ha!
My wife wouldn’t drink any kind of whiskey/bourbon/scotch for anything.
She drinks Margaritas and Reisling.
My wife either
Must be a nurse thing. She likes margaritas and Pinot Grigio, and lite beer.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Indeed
RN. OBGYN her specialty. No longer working in the hospital though. Manager/supervisor (of the assistants) and only RN for a managed care OBGYN office, which makes for a nice M-F, 8 hour, days only job.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Ahhhh
My wife works in the PICU at Childrens in LR. She is interviewing next week for a Trauma APN gig at UAMS.
PICU is not a job
it is a vocation. (And I mean that with as much admiration as I can muster.) Trauma too for that matter.
Of course, being married to you, she is probably up to any challenge! ;-)
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
She loved working in the hospital
when it came to the patients, but hated the politics and staffing policies. And the high asshole/doctor ratio.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Josie
is a Borbon on the rocks kinda girl.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
how well you know me! Alternately, I’m also a Guiness and Jameson girl, but I feel that’s just saying I both jibe with the Irish and the Irish-American immigrant what settled in the Midwest
by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Tequilas I own and enjoy
Casa Noble
Lapis
Chinaco
Aha Toro
Don Julio
Gran Centenniel
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
Love Casa Noble, that is my favorite from your list. Don Julio I don’t love but Lapis is also really nice. Have never tried Aha Toro will have to look for it.
Casa Noble
is my favorite of the bunch. But it aint cheap for the anejo. Now they also sell a “super” anejo
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
I haven’t gotten into Super Anejos at all, but I have nothing but time…
Marty, maybe you can help me out. I had a really good tequila a few nights ago at Riviera but can’t remember what it was called. I think it has a number in its name like 11 or 13, or an address or a road or something. Any guesses?
Hey did you have a tweet
up on the scoreboard at the Padre game last week – I saw that!
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
yeah we did! I wish you would’ve gotten a picture of it… we were out celebrating a friend’s impending wedding.
Didn't have my camera that night
and still had a crappy cell phone then.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I thought you were a
country club member for a minute there!
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Sammy Hagar says
I can’t drink -- 55 !
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
not bad, actually.
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
I go to the Pitcher House in Redondo Beach (mostly for the Ping Pong and beach girls) and they have $3 Cabo Wabo shot Wednesdays, so we do that.
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
I've spent a few hours there
Also The Poop Deck in Hermosa
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
Marty makes his own mix
So he wouldn’t pour just any old crappy tequila into his margarita.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
My margaritas
take hours to make. I squeeze and zest a bunch of limes and lemons and let it sit overnight with super-fine sugar. With a good reposado, it makes for a a really tangy margarita
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
I remember you publishing the recipe at DT
and thinking, “I have got to try that”, but I never have.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Sounds amazing!! Can you post the recipe? We ran an interview with a guy from Milagro last week http://bit.ly/cAoGZu and his simple recipe was intriguing, as it’s just agave nectar, lime, and tequila.
I will
when I get home and look everything up.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
I was trying to find the DT post
but my google skills are failing me.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I found it
but is it complete, or just a summary?
My recipe is more traditional, but you have to do some work the day before. It calls for zesting about 8 lemons and 15 limes. Then combine the zest, juice and a half cup of sugar and let it sit in the fridge over night. This makes for incredibly citrusy margaritas. The real key though is to use very good tequila. None of that Cuervo swill. I use a reposado I’m particularly fond of.Comment #100 at this Dodger Thoughts post.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
That's pretty much it
No triple sec or any other mix
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
Strain it before adding to the tequila
so you don’t get the zest pith in it.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
Note to self
hang out with Marty more often
by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I wonder what Marty is doing
on 10/3 ! :-)
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
not really a slam
Not the best tequila in the world, but gfor a good Margarita, a middling reposado works just fine.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
I think he just licenses the name
Margaritaville – but I’m not certain about that.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I think Don Julio
is the only one on that list available at our local Costcos!
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Marty is so the man
I really need to broaden my horizons!
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
If the situation arises
Dylan Hernandez is reporting that
Kenley Jansen will be the #Dodgers’ closer tonight.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
There is no save situation
when the Dodgers lead 12 – 2.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Zing!
Passan talking about the Rays and which cities in the US are baseball cities compared to football cities:
Los Angeles doesn’t even have a professional football team now that USC is on probation
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AguuedPKFbaNlb091RTyXk85nYcB?slug=jp-raysfans092810
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
Found this interesting
AJ Ellis’ last 14 games:
.517/.611/.586/1.197 13 singles and 2 doubles in 37 plate appaearances.
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
Your 10th Inning Drinking Game from Jon at the Dugout:
One drink
Still frames of black-and-white photographs that were clearly taken after 1993
Far-off shot of children playing baseball very poorly
Daniel Okrent sitting in poor posture while being interviewed
The slight but nagging impression that Ken Burns believes that there is still a baseball team in Brooklyn
Two drinks
Sad child on screen when the word “strike” is uttered
Sports columnist remarking that we are all Steve Bartman in a way (I absolutely guarantee this will happen)
Doris Kearns Goodwin remarking that when the Red Sox won the World Series, she was happy
Pundit unconvincingly argues that baseball is the greatest sport, cites completely irrelevant facts (the grass is green and the field looks really nice, etc.)
Finish drink
Sunsets!
Surprise interview of George W. Bush
Surprise interview of Danny McBride
Documentary ends with someone playing “Take Me Out To The Ballgame” really, really slowly on a piano (also guaranteeing this)
You suddenly really, really wish that Ken Burns would do a documentary about pro wrestling
sadly the documentary ends (and begins) with footage of fenway
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 28, 2010 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
What’d he say now?
This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man.
Didn't he have enough hair on the top of his head already?
He needs to sprout more on the bottom as well?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
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