Dodgers End Their Road Schedule In Style
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2010 3:15 PM PDT
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PrintIt wasn't always pretty, but the Dodgers took advantage of some Rockies' mistakes early, and made it hold up, giving the Dodgers a 7-6 win and a sweep at Coors Field.
The Dodgers got new life in the top of the third, when a potential inning-ending grounder to third base was booted by Ian Stewart, loading the bases. After a walk by James Loney brought in one run, Matt Kemp hit an opposite field grand slam to give the Dodgers a 5-1 lead.
Carlos Monasterios had a big lead, but couldn't quite get through the required five innings to earn the win. But, considering Monasterios hasn't pitched five innings in over a month, today figured to be a bullpen day anyway. Even Jeff Weaver, who hadn't pitched in 11 days, although he only pitched to one batter, retiring Melvin Mora with the bases loaded to end the eighth inning.
Loney, in addition to driving in two runs today (meaning he needs exactly three solo home runs, and nothing else to hit 13 homers and 90 RBI again), made two spectacular fielding plays at first base. He robbed Dexter Fowler of a potential triple in the third inning, then beat him to the bag for the unassisted out. Then, with the bases loaded, Loney made another great stop of a liner by Ian Stewart in the fourth. A run scored on the play, but it could have been much worse.
Hong-Chih Kuo pitched a scoreless eighth inning, putting him two scoreless innings away from the lowest ERA in Dodger history.
Ronald Belisario was shaky in the ninth inning, allowing two hits, a walk, and and a run, but held on for his second save of the season.
The Dodgers are done on the road now. All they have left are three games left at Dodger Stadium. Unless they change their minds again, the club will have Clayton Kershaw start Friday against Arizona.
UPDATE: After the game, on Dodger Talk, it was announced that John Ely would in fact start Friday, and not Kershaw. I give up.
WP - Ramon Troncoso (2-3): 1 1/3 IP, 2 hits, 1 strikeout
LP - Jhoulyis Chacin (9-11): 5 IP, 4 hits, 7 runs (2 earned), 3 walks, 7 strikeouts
Sv - Ronald Belisario (2): 1 IP, 2 hits, 1 run, 1 walk
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You think Clayton talked Joe
into last start?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I'm thinking
Kuroda decided he was done for the year, so Joe asked Clayton if he wanted it. isn’t he taking his start?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
d’oh
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I would bet on this time table
1) Clayton pleads with Joe to start again
2) Joe asks Kuroda if he really wants to get to 200 IP
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Suchon said the opposite timetable
1) called Kershaw in his hotel room last night, told him he was done for the year
2) talked to Kuroda, who said he really didn’t need to pitch Sunday
3) moved Kershaw Friday (Suchon speculated Kershaw this morning was already mentally checked out, in “done with the season mode”) with the caveat that only if Ely wasn’t needed in relief today
4) Ely wasn’t needed today, so no need to throw Kershaw now
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Hopefully they would have used Link
before they resorted to Ely today and a meaningless Kershaw start.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Yeah, I think Ely only would have been used if Ely was done in like the second inning or so. Really long relief.
Ely would have been on 3 days rest today too.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Dylan Hernandez
Torre said he didn’t name Ely the Friday starter earlier because he thought he would have to use him today.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I thought he was done.
Oh well, See kids… this is what happens when stupid people get a login!
They make posts like keithc13 just did
you're not stupid
they said he was done, then changed their minds.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
They totally switched up on that.
Original plan: Kershaw today
After win last night: Rockies are eliminated, we are skipping Clayton, he is done for the year. “He has pitched enough innings,” Torre said.
This morning: New change! Kershaw will pitch again, but at home on Friday. Kuroda, who is 3 2/3 IP shy of 200, was asked if he needed to hit that mark. He said no, so Bills and Lills were bumped one day.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Not bad considering how far he goes into his games (or doesn't go)
Thanks
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Break out the brooms
there’s some Rockies on the floor
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2010 3:20 PM PDT reply actions
More like rubble
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ha
yes.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Ass if that clown knows what he is talking about
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You staying for the fireworks?
Go out to the parking lot, drop the tailgate on the Tacoma….Good times
cant see them from my parking lot. i am going to experiment if my son likes them or gets upset.
"We were never friends"
and
on the parking ticket stub, it says on the back that Dodger Security can club you for hanging out in the parking lot
"We were never friends"
I thought they only did that if you started eating potato salad.
by regfairfield on Sep 29, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I've watched most of my firework nights from the parking lot.
Closer to the boom boom, never been bothered by security.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Because I tweeted this
What happened to “[CK’s] pitched enough innings”? Start Ely! @DodgertownUSA Kershaw start[s] Friday. Billingsley Saturday and Lilly [Sun]Day
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Right now
It would not surprise me if the Dodgers had the 15th pick overall. In case you are wondering, if the Dodgers end up tied with anyone (besides the Angels), the Dodgers would pick behind them since the tiebreaker is whatever team had a worst record in 2009.
Right now, with 78 wins, if Milwaukee and Houston lose one more game, that would clinch no worst than a tie with the Dodgers, thus they would win that tiebreaker.
Right now, I see the Mets and Angels as the two teams that will probably finish ahead of the Dodgers.
Guo ERA
Pitching one inning on Friday and one on Sunday is his likely scenario for garnering enough innings to qualify for the best Dodger ERA.
Seven runs on six hits
The last game the Dodgers had more runs than hits was last September 20 vs. the Giants at home. The last time they had exactly 7 runs on 6 hits was 9/6/2008 vs. Arizona, also at home.
22 times in the 2000s the Dodgers have had more runs than hits; they lost only one of those games.
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Turns out Delias isn’t a dirty rotten liar. Though the source is still Suchon (but that’s from the team)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Being right once
does not change him from being a dirty rotten scoundrel
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
They are playing ping pong with my feelings.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
BTW, I pulled off my trade of Best for Miles Austin
by Michael White on Sep 29, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I proposed the trade on Saturday, and told him he had until games started on Sunday to accept or reject in case one of the players in the deal were to get injured.
by Michael White on Sep 29, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
My big move of the week is picking up Ryan Torain off waivers. Portis can’t play anymore and you know Shanny likes obscure backs.
I like that
/feaverishly checks leagues waiver wire
by Michael White on Sep 29, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Unless something changed, he can go straight to hell.
by regfairfield on Sep 29, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I liked Torain when he was in camp with the Broncos a year or two ago
His problem was he couldn’t stay healthy, had injury concerns coming out of college and then got injured with the Broncos atleast once (maybe twice, can’t recall) just when he was gonna get a chance for some PT. So I have no idea where he’s at these days but seems he’ll get some time with the Skins. Of course how much time, in a Shanny offense, is always debatable.
I assume y’all have picked up Demariyus Thomas by now. :-)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I need a RB
who should I pickup? Thinking about either Torain, Kuhn or someone else. Basically just for next week.
The fireworks won't be the only thing lit up
on Friday?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
there goes our dream of a .500 season
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
Quote from management?
or simply someone repeating the same mantra?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I'm curious
Is this type of thing unique to the Dodgers management or do other teams do it and we just don’t notice it because we don’t follow the team on a day-to-day basis.
Because if its only the Dodgers, thats pretty poor management even if the complaints are valid. If it’s every team, than it’s just how business is done?
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
That's a good question
I’m certain we are more in our own little Dodger forest so we hear far more detail of our own.
I would imagine it goes on elsewhere, but to different degrees. Say what you want about the Angels, but their organizational structure is pretty tight, and almost everyone is one the same page about whatever their “message” is.
Then again, maybe Eddie Bane went rogue :)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2010 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Tony Reagins pissed
that he didn’t get a Trader Joe’s discount.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Trader Joes and Whole Foods are trying to do different things.
Joe’s is trying to be the upscale bodega, Whole Foods is the upscale supermarket.
And a Bugatti is better than a Honda Civic.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 29, 2010 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Bride and I own a Honda Civic. It is a great car — especially, it is a great car for the money.
Also, we shop at Trader Joe’s a lot and Whole Foods only sometimes.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 29, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Whole foods
is another place I try to avoid because I hate the guy who runs it.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
I certainly agree that it’s annoying to patronize businesses whose owners take your money and put it into causes you don’t believe in.
That said, I just don’t have the time to do all the research.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 29, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't take me too seriously
I tend to only do it when it’s convenient to me. I’m not that dedicated, nor scrupled.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
I bet you don’t patronize Curves gym, either.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 29, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Ooh, I just googled them
and I now refuse to patronize them. Yes, that’s right. I’m willing to live a life of fatness and sloth now.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
Agreed
The blog thing about Wild Oats was annoying
by robotmadeofnails on Sep 29, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Couldn't care less about his health plan rant
as the plan we ended up with is pretty much pointless but I loved this:
Despite his financial success, this is not the first time Mackey has become fodder for criticism. In 2007, it was discovered that Mackey had been using a pseudonym to post blogs lambasting Whole Foods’ competitor, Wild Oats Market, and questioning the worth of the company’s stock.
The postings were made public when Mackey announced his desire to buy Wild Oats Market, and a lawsuit was filed by the Federal Trade Commission over concerns that the purchase would violate antitrust laws.
The FTC eventually let the sale go through, provided that Mackey sold 31 of the Wild Oats stores, and the Securities and Exchange Commission, which had launched an investigation into the online postings, did not press charges.
That is kind of amazing.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Wouldn’t that be the Camry, since it is the same company?
by robotmadeofnails on Sep 29, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
By better you mean more expensive?
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Why not?
He’ll get a chance to really prove himself in the AFL… OK maybe not really.
by Julio Nievas on Sep 29, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Couldn’t they just say he sucks if they don’t want to call him up?
by regfairfield on Sep 29, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
That all had better years than DeJesus.
by regfairfield on Sep 29, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Josh Suchon’s point (same as Gurnick a few weeks back) was that it spoke volumes that the Dodgers didn’t call DeJesus up even though he was healthy, on the 40-man and the team was in need of middle infielders in September.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
but he is scheduled to play in the AFL and its his first full year back. It is a good observation but I think you need to try and get a source first.
I don’t doubt Gurnick had sources, but I think Suchon was probably going off that Gurnick article.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2010 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Sounds like the same ole story to me
Not sure how this reflects ill on management without knowing exactly where the info came from. You could have one scout saying they don’t like DeJesus’s approach, or a minor league coach. Yet when we hear that “management” does not like his approach to the game everyone assumes it is someone like Ned or DeJon.
We heard what Ned had to say, when he said it directly so I understood the criticism at the time, anyone getting upset over anonymous quotes seems to be working to hard to get upset about something.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Needed middle infielders?
Furcal was healthy, Theriot is here, Carroll is here and Belliard (barely qualifies as a middle IF based on what we saw this year in the field) was here at that time. Remember, we were all a bit surprised when Hu was called up and Belliard was released.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I would put quotes around “healthy” for Furcal.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I dunno, that was a pretty sweet turn-and-throw to get Montero at the plate the other day.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 29, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
It may have spoken volumes
but apparently the Dodgers management actually DO speak volumes about this type of stuff.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
I don’t really care how much ‘management’ dislikes DeJesus. Considering that Mattingly is going to be the manager next year, he needed to see with his own eyes what DeJesus can do.
Yes, but I expect management to try to accurately manage their assets based on talent and ability instead if he annoys you or not.
If DeJesus is good enough to play in the Majors this year, I would have liked to see him. If not, that’s fine. Use that as the reason. Management ‘disliking’ him just sounds like pettiness. Just trade or cut him if you’re not going to give him the chance.
Can’t we read “dislikes” as being short for “dislikes the player’s chances of success in the majors, based upon his [attiude, etc.]?”
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 29, 2010 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, the organization has not said anything. All they did was not call him up. From an organizational standpoint, there’s nothing wrong with that.
Gurnick’s point about DeJesus was not sourced and, if this organization has shown anything, it’s that they aren’t afraid to go on record on how they feel about a player.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
You may or not be surprised in life that
in the end, a lot of decisions get made on whether or not people like you or not regardless of qualifications
My best advice to my unemployed friend
If you are on the fringes, you can’t be a dick and incompetent, that stuff is reserved for management.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Isn't Mattingly coaching DeJesus in the AFL?
I think that was the point, no?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
sure did. Though it was more people saying “you were almost 30/30 last year, do you think you could push 40/40?” and him responding with some PC answer of ‘Yeah, I mean, uhh, with hard work I think anything is possible’. At least if I remember correctly.
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
It could be entertaining
to see Kemp attempt 80 steals. That would mean he got on base enough to meet that .390 xBABIP requirement from Xeifrank.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Bane and Angels general manager Tony Reagins had yet to return phone messages left for them Wednesday. Sources inside and outside the organization, speaking on condition of anonymity, indicated tensions between the two had increased over the last year or two.
“The way the year developed,” one scout said, “with Trout and the guys they broke into the big leagues, I thought Eddie would be OK.”
Who do you think would survive in a power struggle, Colletti or White?
I have no idea.
The most annoying part of the trailers is the one jock saying they should ‘gut the nerd’.
HELLO. YOU’RE GOING TO HARVARD. YOU’RE ALL NERDS.
by Tripon on Sep 29, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
heh
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2010 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I laughed at that last line
a bit more than I probably should have.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Ha Ha
Blogger commentator calling Harvard students Nerds.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
It takes one to know one?
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I hate Facebooks founder
but its David Fucking Fincher and is getting great reviews.
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damn didn't even know that
mostly because I was so ready to hate the film that I didn’t even realize fincher was directing it until recently. DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN.
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anyone see
this vid of a guy reacting to the Reds clinching. Kinda funny, but you feel good for the guy. Probably a long time Reds fan who waited so long for this.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2010 4:56 PM PDT reply actions
So glad the Reds could make it to the postseason
now hopefully they can take out the phillies somehow
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hopefully they don’t become the new Philies, like when Harvey Dent becomes two face
by Josie Becker on Sep 29, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Did someone take away the Reds reason for living while leaving them
horribly disfigured?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
At least I have someone to root for from the NL.
VOTTO
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I again concede that you sir are smarter than me when it comes to NL baseball. We debated the Reds early this year and I said they had no prayer.
I had no idea they would get so many quality efforts from their starting pitching. I contended that no team is a playoff team that has Aaron Harang and Bronson Arroyo in the rotation.
Harang started two games since June 30
and isn’t in the rotation at the moment, so you were right on him.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
and
Tommy Blackjack
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2010 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I was just talking to my dad about that list 30 minutes ago!
Hahaha
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
The Reds offense OTOH
Of the players with 75 or more PA, only one has an OPS+ less than 101, SS Orlando Cabrera at 76. With Votto and Rolen as the big bats in the middle, that can get it done.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
The Dodger offense in contrast
has only five players at 101 OPS+ or better and 75 or more PAs: Manny, Ethier, Kemp, Furcal and Gibbons. (Barajas is 8 PAs short and Carroll is at exactly 100.)
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Have we made a reference yet today
to IVDown? I don’t think so, and he’ll be disappointed and dispirited if he doesn’t find one, but this is one in and of itself, so now we are covered.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Speaking of IV
Sneak preview! (month in review coming tomorrow afternoon)
Matt Kemp had a sub-.300 OBP for the fourth straight month. Yet his OBP ranked 9th best of the 18 position players for September.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions
So you are going to do
a separate month in review for October?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I was toying with the idea.
It will probably get swallowed away because after Sunday I will do the final week in review as well as the final season in thirds. That’s not gonna be pretty.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Lol, Kempfail. At least he’s still got his power.
If he can hit 35 homeruns I don’t care if he hits .250 with a .320 OBP next year. Ok, i will care, but I will take that much more than what he’s done this year.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
40-40 next year
he proclaimed it
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2010 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Cito Gaston is retiring after this weekend.
All of the players have a drawn on black moustache today in honor of Cito!
Listening on the radio, Can’t wait to see em.
I liked the way that the Rockies shook hands with Joe
Classy
"I still love my ex-wife, but only when we're not talking"
another thing about Torre I won't miss all that much
That path of misdirection that he seems to enjoy putting everyone on from time to time. Well, with Ely pitching, at least they are taking the 2011 draft seriously.
Ned Colletti should be the new spokesman
Before I make media appearances, I drink a soothing cup of Bigelow Green Tea. It helps calm the nerves and prevents me from blasting my players in the press.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
And it puts a spiffy shine on my cowboy boots.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Sep 29, 2010 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions
So it appears the w/e probables are
Hudson / Ely
Saunders / Billingsley
Lopez / Lilly
Does Russell Mitchell start every game?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
You sir, are correct
Diamondbacks right-hander Daniel Hudson’s terrific season came to a premature end Tuesday with word that he will miss his scheduled start Friday because of an injury to his right middle finger.
The injury, a tendon strain, is not considered serious and will not require surgery, Hudson said, and he believes he’ll be fine for the start of next season.
Friday night it will be “left-hander Zach Kroenke” instead.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Although I think I will call him
Zach Kranick instead.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
So what might have been an interesting Kershaw / Hudson matchup
has turned into an Ely / Kroenke one instead. Guess they really need that last-minute fireworks addition.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Also from that article
Interim manager Kirk Gibson said third baseman Mark Reynolds “probably will get into a game before the end of the year.” He has been limited by a bruised right hand.
Maybe against Ely, although it might be fun to watch him flail against Billingsley.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Getting some good lightning and thunder
up here by the San Gabriels.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
Not a good time to hike to the top of
Mt. Wilson then.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Nope
I have a good view of Mt. Wilson from my house and it looks like it’s raining thee right now.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
These folks should have displayed such sense.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
It is tragic
but hiking to the highest spot around in a lightning storm isn’t the brightest move.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
My favorite tragic heights story of the week though was the inventor of the Segway and his Segway being found at the bottom of a cliff. I mean, awful that they guy died but I laughed.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2010 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I keep wondering if Segway sales went up or down.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Sep 29, 2010 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I am going with user error on that one. I would not recommend using any vehicle, bike, or anything like that near a cliff…common sense.
by robotmadeofnails on Sep 30, 2010 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions
There was that three-game disciplinary benching in June, right after Kemp reportedly got into a dugout confrontation with bench coach Bob Schaefer. There were the comments from general manager Ned Colletti as far back as April, when Colletti said Kemp’s baserunning and defense were below average and openly questioned whether Kemp’s new two-year, $10.95 million contract after he made just $467,000 last year might have made him too comfortable.
There have been mistakes, everything from baserunning blunders to misjudged fly balls to failures to back up plays and a basestealing success rate (55.9) that is far too low for a player with Kemp’s speed. And there was perhaps his most infamous on-field moment of the season, when he cost the Dodgers a critical run in a critical game against San Diego by jogging home and failing to touch the plate before the third out of the inning was made behind him at third base.
So damn critical that the Dodgers lost the game at 10-5. AND Kemp went 5 for 5 in that game. I could see it being ‘critical’ if it was a one or two run loss, but come on. The Dodgers lost 10-5.
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/mlb/columns/story?id=5631461
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/LAN/LAN201008020.shtml
Also, that play was on Loney, and calling that Kemp’s “most infamous on-field moment of the season” is just wrong, especially since he has had several plays much, much worse.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2010 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Everyone bags on Kemp but at least he still has some talent.
2 — consecutive seasons in which Kemp has hit at least 25 home runs and at least 25 doubles. That makes him the ninth Dodgers player with multiple 25-homer/25-double seasons since the team moved to Los Angeles in 1958.
Agreed
Very slanted portrayal.
That said, lets not make Kemp out to be some victim here, this is like NCAA and Reggie Bush shit for me.
I sort of set myself up for that one.
I mean more of that there is no victim. Too many SC fans I know are absolving Bush for shit simply b/c the NCAA is crooked. It’s not an either / or deal.
Uh there is a victim
that victim is USC. Although if they knew about it not so much.
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The victims are
the current football players at USC, paying the price for what Reggie Bush (and possibly the previous athletic regime) did.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Sep 29, 2010 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions
there we go
I needed the angle where Reggie Bush is an asshole.
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1-0 D'Backs
Leadoff HR for Drew off Lincecum.
leadoff HR for Stephen Drew
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2010 7:16 PM PDT reply actions
I could be wrong here, but
Kershaw had 36 unintentional walks in through May and 36 since then.
He is so not clutch
Not a winner
"I still love my ex-wife, but only when we're not talking"
by angelofdeath on Sep 29, 2010 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions
i can think of 9 pitchers who are better
possibly 13
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2010 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions
The Giants have given up 48 runs in 24 games in September, and have Lincecum pitching tonight.
That is all.
so of course Arizona scored one in the first inning.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2010 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions
My hunch for the Playoff scheduling next Wednesday
First game – If Tampa wins AL East they will host Texas; if the Yankees win the AL East, Philadelphia hosts someone
Second game – if New York wins AL East, they host Texas, otherwise Philadelphia goes here.
Third game – since it is the furthest Western site, Minnesota will host AL Wild Card Team here.
Also, I think start times will get moved up 30 minutes.
anyone else enjoy
the nike commercial with Bo Jackson and Robinson Cano? Cracks me up
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2010 7:39 PM PDT reply actions
I love that, a lot. It’s great.
I also like the other Nike “boom” one, with Tebow (and some other dude, I’m not sure who) are watching Manny Pacquiao fight, among other highlights.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2010 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah, that's good one too
though for some reason, the Bo one makes me remember the cartoon with him, Wayne Gretzky, and Michael Jordon being a team who fought EVIL!!!!
I’m not lying
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2010 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Both are great
Hard to be some groceries at Costco though without someone else to share.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2010 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions
6 bell peppers (three colors!) for $6? Sure, but am I supposed to make a fucking salad every day? (Don’t answer that)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2010 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Spill it
We need the backstory on that.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2010 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s a pretty boring story, really. I was 18, needed something to do, and they were not too far away. I interviewed with a smarmy bitch who kept putting me on the spot with “What would you do?” scenarios. I guess I did all right b/c they called me back with a $6/hr offer. I accepted, but once they started training us, it was just unbearable. Customer service sucks.
Did they tell you that you couldn’t take a week off for the MLB draft?
by Michael White on Sep 29, 2010 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
There are so many possible comments to make here
and you just hit that one out of the park :)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2010 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I was going to go with
Tommy Lasorda once said we couldn’t wear red, so I gotta bounce.
Michael’s is better and rec’d for it.
Michael White
TBLA clean-up hitter
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2010 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I got $3.10 an hour stocking beer and liquor in a local store.
for my first job, I worked 40 hours a week and my first check was for $124 minus taxes. I lasted 3 weeks and quit to go fishing.
usher in a movie theater
saved up my first two checks, bought a PS2
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2010 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Well I am excluding "working" for my dad
which wasn’t that often compared to friends I had whose fathers were gardeners. I was lucky to get a drink when I did that.
First real job
was McDonalds one summer. I think I bought a VCR with my first paycheck. At one point that summer, I bought this baseball stat calculator sized thing from Radio Shack (I think it was $50) that was kind of the precursor to Baseball-Reference.
This was before the internet was prevalent, so this was fucking amazing.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2010 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions
My first job was a bagger at Albertsons
That job sucked, lol.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
How many times did you get asked
for orange/purple drank?
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First job
Library page. Shelve books, assist checking out books, find lost books, file cards. All for the glamour (and minimum wage).
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 29, 2010 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
First job
Laboratory assistant. Xeroxed charts, labeled specimens, operated centrifuge etc. Paid a bit more than minimum wage to start at the time. About a three-hour shift every week night when I started. Good job for a HS senior.
I must be pretty lucky – never had a job I thought was shitty.
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by David Young on Sep 29, 2010 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Worked at Baskin Robbins.
Got fired for giving away too much ice cream
by robotmadeofnails on Sep 30, 2010 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Delivered for Round Table in Hermosa Beach
coolest job, except for the people in the store. Work 4 hour shifts for 7.50/hour and still make 100 bucks a night in tips for racinga round city streets, blaring music and eating pizza.
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
One of the easiest rec’s ever
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by David Young on Sep 29, 2010 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I lasted 3 months
I couldn’t take putting pop tart boxes back in place anymore.
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For some reason, a Target is opening next month in Simi Valley, when there is another Target that’s been there for years and years that is literally 2 or 3 miles away.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Here under the railroad trestle at Rosecrans and Aviation, there is a Trader Joes just a few steps away…
…and another a half-mile down the road at Manhattan Beach and Aviation.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 29, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
The latter one is tiny though
with insufficient parking. The former, newer one, is much easier to visit.
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by David Young on Sep 29, 2010 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I feel honored to be sharing the same Trader Joe’s with Humma, Bride and the Youngs.
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
Heh
It’s near my work, not my home, so I am only in those two locations sporadically.
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by David Young on Sep 30, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
costco all the way
go there on saturdays at around noon… the samples are amazing at that time…. it is a full meal… you will walk out there full…. and the gas is cheap… like 20 cents lower then everywhere else
by matthewmafa on Sep 29, 2010 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Both
depends on what you need and how much of it. Was just there tonight – grapes, strawberries, tequila (just Cazadores – sorry Marty), veggie tray, chicken breasts, diet drinks. Didn’t get one tonight, but is there a better deal than their tasty $4.99 rotisserie chicken? Harder to use Costco with just the two of us living here though.
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by David Young on Sep 29, 2010 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Dan Davis of ESPN trippin on BBWA considering voting King Felix as the CY Young Award winner....
http://search.espn.go.com/dan-davis/
I can’t post it correctly for some reason. It is the extra point podcast for 9/29 under audio results
Tampa Bay - 36,973 (102.6% full) - % is based on regular season capacity
Interesting considering they “gave away” tickets.
Maybe they sold them to their version of Blue Land Co.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2010 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions
just internet slap me in the back of the head.
My mind is on leaving work in 11 minutes and driving to the Casino.
Im gonna roll them bones tonight.
Poker all morning long.
Probably sit by the wife and play Roulette in the afternoon/evening tomorrow to please her.
Then more poker.
nice
"I still love my ex-wife, but only when we're not talking"
by angelofdeath on Sep 29, 2010 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Yankees and Rays lose
Rays hold the tiebreaker and lead by a half game.
Rays at Kansas City tomorrow night to take care of that 1/2 game while the Yankees are off.
And the Yanks have the Red Sox next
Rays should have that division sewn up
"I still love my ex-wife, but only when we're not talking"
by angelofdeath on Sep 29, 2010 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Not watching
but just saw a few tweets about his second HR-robbing catch of the night
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2010 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions
ok, WOW
I just saw the second one, hit by Aramis. Fucking great.
Even Aramis was smiling, the play was so great.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2010 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions
so since Lincecum is pitching today?
is he not going to pitch in the Padre series?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2010 8:02 PM PDT reply actions
A-gon
no beard? for serious? someone confirm this
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2010 8:03 PM PDT reply actions
Dear Tommy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDryKQTAdTs
you’re welcome
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
That was one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen. “When I’m alone…..I (bleep) myself.”
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2010 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions
glad you both enjoyed it. I didn’t want to forget about it from earlier.
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
yeah
thanks, that was great
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2010 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions
For the race for the protected pick
Only spot 16 is not secured, Detroit’s magic number is 2 but they have a 3 game lead in the loss column on everyone except the Angels (2 game lead in the loss column).
Basically spots 1-10 are secure (plus the 2 compensation picks) but by Friday, spots 11-15 are all within a game. Now any team that is tied with the Dodgers (except the Angels) gets the better pick so right now the Dodgers sit 14th but 3 teams are a half game behind them.
Some payroll notes
Casey Blake picked up $125k on Monday hitting his 550th PA
Matt Kemp added $100k to 2011 last night getting his 650th PA
Reed Johnson will get $75k if he plays one game this weekend (his 100th)
Hong-Chih Kuo will get $25k if he pitches one game this weekend (his 55th)
where’s Peter Griffin? so they can fight!!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2010 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions
“Our playoff hopes our sinking fast and no one in the city cares, what do we do?”
“Go to the dry cleaners, pick up the chicken suit”. – Decision made by someone that makes far more money than me.
by regfairfield on Sep 29, 2010 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions
i see it more as
“Our playoff hopes are sinking fast and no one in the city cares, what do we do?”
Guy who makes more money than regfairfield(or Guy), turns his chair and looks into the dark San Diego skyline. He knew what must be done, but dare he ask? He moved to his desk, and pushed the speed dial number labled “C”. On the other end, in a darkened living room, a man picks up the phone.
C: Yes?
Guy: You are needed.
C:….I’ve given that life up.
Guy: We both know that’s bull. You have a duty, a calling.
C:I’ll call you back.
C hangs up, He walks over to a bare wall, and removes a hidden square of paneling, revealilng a small red button. He pushes it, and the wall moves aside to reveal the San Diego Chicken suit.
C:It may be time….old fried.
30 minutes later, Guy waits in his office, despairing more and more.
Guy:We may be on our own here
C:Not quite alone!
Guy turns around to see the San Diego chicken in his office.
Guy: Chicken!
Chicken:C’mon guy, we got a Division championship to win….B-CAWK!!!!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2010 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions
See, and I see it more as
for argument’s sake, let’s say Guy’s name is Charlie.
Charlie: How would you like to perform in Petco Park?
Chicken: Gee, I don’t know…
Charlie: What do you mean, you don’t know? This is your chance to dance around in the big leagues.
Chicken: Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls.
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
LOL
gotta upstage me don’t ya?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2010 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I know you all probably gonna chastise me for being slow
But I finally found the infamous Nyjer Morgan thread in LL…
Hilarious
"I still love my ex-wife, but only when we're not talking"
Tony LaRussa
stay or go?
I say stay
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2010 8:21 PM PDT reply actions
Eric “The Catheter” Stephen
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
fuck him and the giants
in every orifice a dick can fit in
then the ones they can’t
then we carve new ones.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2010 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions
doesn't
steal enough bases
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2010 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions
But
his splits are weird. His BABIP against RHP is like .313 and his BABIP against LHP is .234.
OPS:
vs LH .684
vs RH .855
Isn’t he due to crash in the playoffs?
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
of course not
they’re not gonna make the playoffs :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2010 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Apparently, some tee shirt the Giants players had made. Because it describes their team.
/vomit
by Michael White on Sep 30, 2010 7:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Mitch Williams
criticizing Joe Torre for how he’s handled Broxton. In terms of taking the closer job away and not building his confidence.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2010 9:06 PM PDT reply actions
but not for having him throw his arm off?
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Really?
I thought it was much higher :)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2010 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Padres win
a game they pretty much had to win.
Can pull within a game of Atlanta if they win tomorrow. Just another big game for them.
DBACKS FAIL.
What a world of suck they were in that series. Kudos to Giants, I guess. {Ouch, that hurts.}
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
With the win tonight the Padres have at least guaranteed Friday’s game will mean something.
So, the Giants will have to beat the Padres to win the division.
Wait, are they 1 back? Why did I think they were 2 back?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
They’re 2 back.
But, lets say they are three back going into Friday (Giants win tomorrow, Padres lose). They can sweep the Giants and force a tiebreaker at Petco. Or, two back (both lose tomorrow). A sweep would win the division.
Padres’ elimination number is 3 in both the division and wild card now.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2010 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
We wondered all season when the Padre voodoo would end. So this all is not a surprise. Sucks that it’s coming at the hands of the Giants, tho.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 29, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Make this happen
Padres win Thursday and Friday.
Giants lose Thursday and Friday.
Braves lose Friday.
Padres and Giants split Saturday and Sunday.
Braves split Saturday and Sunday.
Although
this would give the Phillies an even more added advantage.
by bhsportsguy on Sep 29, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm catching up on the Tenth Inning from last night
Lots of Bonds so far (gags), but now they are talking about Griffey, and it’s crazy to see just how great Griffey was…i wish he could have stayed healthy the last decade.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
That quick montage of Griffey was so good. His swing is just ridiculous.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2010 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
That was so short
Screw Bonds, talk about Griffey more. I like the part about the strike, it’s been really good so far.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Bonds was (with or without steroids) the best player in the game
in the last 20 years
by bhsportsguy on Sep 29, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Not to bring up a sore subject
but Pedro Martinez is really a great interview.
by bhsportsguy on Sep 29, 2010 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Love this quote
when he is on top of everything, he says “A-Rod, Jeter, I’ll blow you away”
by bhsportsguy on Sep 29, 2010 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Pedro on Ichiro
He makes you throw pitches, pitchers hate to throw more pitches than they need to.
by bhsportsguy on Sep 29, 2010 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Didn't Ted Williams say
that what really separated him as a hitter — apart from his ability to recognize a ball from a strike — was his ability to foul off pitches that he didn’t like? The more pitches he saw, the greater the chance he’d get one he could drive….
…or am I making that up?
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 29, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
He could have
but the thing he always said is that you will get one pitch to hit during each at bat, don’t miss it.
by bhsportsguy on Sep 29, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I was watching the one on tonight for 15 minutes and about half of that was about him
Then I go back to watch last night’s from the start and they just go on and on and on about him. It’s just annoying.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
True
Griffey the most popular last 20 years?
I’d say so. There was nobody bigger than Griffy when I was a kid.
by Michael White on Sep 30, 2010 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions
The Giants will probably go over the 90%
for the first time all year in the Pecota Playoff Odds tomorrow.
Watching the part on Greg Maddux now
I feel like I’ve under appreciated him.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
In other news, damn, Terriers is a good show
(they’re repeating the new episode starting now if anyone cares)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
is that a good thing or a bad thing
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Casino update.
I’ve been here at the Grand for an hour or so and am up about $800.00. Want to stop…..but I am a degenerate.
More updates coming. Back to the bones.
by keithc13 on Sep 29, 2010 11:18 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
And so it begins
Ted Lilly’s agent Larry O’Brien told Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com that he believes other teams will have better offers for his client than the Dodgers.
“I think the Dodgers are interested in signing Ted back. Ted has interest in signing back,” said O’Brien. “I’m just not sure the Dodgers at this point are going to get to a range that will be very easy for us to achieve come December. I’m pretty confident that there’s a minimum three-year deal out there for Ted.” O’Brien is doing his best to pump up his client, but with the financial uncertainty of the franchise, he’s probably right. Lilly, who turns 35 in January, is 9-12 with a 3.71 ERA over 29 starts this season.—Rotoworld
by Little Blue Bicycle on Sep 30, 2010 6:59 AM PDT reply actions
He can have that three year deal. Well take the draft picks.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 30, 2010 7:41 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
precisely
Congrats, Larry O’Brien — with your comment, you might as well have said, “The Dodgers should absolutely offer my client arbitration, because there is no way they are gonna be stuck on the hook for a contract they don’t want to pay. We’ll be accepting the three-year deal that’s out there.”
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2010 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Actually, I see Ned's hamster wheel spinning
You know, if we defer it at $3mil per year for the next 5 years, with a base salary of $5mil for all three years, this could work!
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
Isn't his suggestion
3/30 ? (3×5)+(5×3)
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by David Young on Sep 30, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
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