Billingsley In Complete Control In Win Over Giants
by Eric Stephen on Sep 3, 2010 9:36 PM PDT
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Chad Billingsley was great tonight on the mound, and delivered at the plate, too, leading the Dodgers to a 4-2 victory over the Giants in the first game of a three-game weekend series at Dodger Stadium.
Billingsley came into the game tonight having allowed just two runs in 21 2/3 innings against the Giants this season, and he managed to lower that ERA, from 0.83 to 0.61. He is no Larry Jaster, but 0.61 will get it done. Billingsley allowed just two unearned runs in the fourth inning, which came after an error by Rafael Furcal in his first game back after missing 28 games with a lower back strain.
Furcal made a wonderful diving play to his right earlier in the game, getting a force out at second base and robbing Jose Guillen of a base hit.
Not only did Billingsley strikeout seven while only allowing two hits and two walks, but he also broke a tie with a two-out, two-run single in the bottom of the fourth inning, that landed just in front of Jose Guillen.
Billingsley was supported earlier by Rod Barajas, who continued living the dream with his fourth home run for his hometown team in just his eighth game as a Dodger. This is the fourth series Barajas has played with the Dodgers, and he has hit a home run in each one.
Barry Zito was pulled after just four innings, in a 4-2 game. It was a move reminiscent of Bob Lemon pinch hitting for Tommy John in Game 6 of the 1981 World Series, although that was a 1-1 game at the time.
Ted Lilly and Matt Cain do battle in game two tomorrow night.
WP - Chad Billingsley (11-8): 8 IP, 2 hits, 2 unearned runs, 2 walks, 7 strikeouts
LP - Barry Zito (8-11): 4 IP, 4 hits, 4 runs, 4 walks, 5 strikeouts
Sv - Hong-Chih Kuo (8): 3 up, 3 down
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Giants lose
Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?
by shaqfor3 on Sep 3, 2010 9:37 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
But he's better defensively than Belliard!
And two hard boiled eggs! Honk!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Eric opened up the flood gates. Those of us who are like me can feel free to come out of the shadows.
by Michael White on Sep 3, 2010 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Before tonight
400 runners on base for Loney, 167 for Martin, so around 2.5 times more for Loney. But one is a 1B, the other a C. Comparing the two is a bit of a red herring.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
2.4 times. Hello!
So we’re willing to keep a weak hitting catcher w/poor defensive skills because he’s a catcher?
I’m not trying to convince you or anyone; I just find the focus on Loney misguided when there are other more pressing needs. I’m all for improving the team at any and all positions; I just feel there are more pressing needs before we get to him.
I’ll shut up now.
People have shit on Martin for the past two years. I don’t see evidence of any of us giving him a pass.
by Michael White on Sep 3, 2010 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions
and
the RBI difference is only 3.1 times (80 vs. 26), not “almost 4”. Hello! :-)
There are a lot more 1B out there that hit a lot better than Loney than there are catchers that hit a lot better than Martin. It is generally an easier position to upgrade.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Logic and facts have no place here
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
Ha. I too caught it. Didn’t think it looked right, checked out fangraphs and then your story above.
by Michael White on Sep 3, 2010 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I wish I could have Dodgers 24/7. Although Bradford is looking ok. We might win two games. I just wish they are against the stupid faiders and winers.
by Skunkburner on Sep 3, 2010 9:47 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Used to. We’re on a budget now. F’ing Haden.
True story: when I was a sophomore in high school I was in the Inland Empire. I went to San Gorgonio; Eisenhower and Chaffey were in our league. Ronnie Lott played for Eisenhower and Anthony Munoz for Chaffey, both seniors that year. Men among boys in all sports, especially football. They both signed with USC. And a few days later Lott was supposedly seen riding around Fontana in a new 260Z.
this stuff has been going on forever.
Is that your excuse
for the pasting they inflicted on you last year?
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Did we play them last year? Don’t remember.
I was looking forward to a few payback games this year. Oregon and Stanford especially. After that defensive no-show last night, not looking forward to those games so much now.
by KellyStephen on Sep 3, 2010 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Wasn't the total yardage allowed last night
similar to those two games? Well, there is time for the D to improve, esp. the young secondary.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
How many yards less will UCLA allow to K-State
compare to Southern Cal to Hawai’i ?
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Thats Tebows number
Everyone knows not to fuck with him
by SeanMillerSavior on Sep 3, 2010 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Barajas HBP doesn't seem to be serious
He said he got hit right above the bone, in the tricep area. Added that he’s gonna ice it and see how it is tomorrow.
http://www.dingersblog.com
Barajas got hit right on the tip of the elbow
Nothing will keep him out of the line up
he is living his dream …
by 68elcamino427 on Sep 3, 2010 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions
1986 called…they want their stat back. :)
by KellyStephen on Sep 3, 2010 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
I did a Kuo leg kick when I typed that.
Wife applying ice to her cheek now.
by KellyStephen on Sep 3, 2010 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Peststein gets on with 2 outs for Padres
Not sure who to root for in this one. Guess the Rockies. Meh.
I think I’ll just watch somethng else.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
This is a fun game.
Like I am (was I guess) with James McDonald.
by Michael White on Sep 3, 2010 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the only player/mgmt that was universally disliked (meaning no defenders) was Garret Anderson.
GA probably has played his last MLB game.
you forget
sarcastro!
I defended GA earlier in the season, but as time wore on, my argument no longer held water.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Yup. Sarcastro took his defense of GA to the airwaves.
by Michael White on Sep 3, 2010 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
when I was in the press box
there was an attractive, dark-haired woman sitting the back row behind me. Never heard her speak, but she held two microphones in the clubhouse, one for KTLA, the other for KCAL/KCBS. Don’t know who she was though.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I was thinking of her, but she’s Fox Sports
by Eric Stephen on Sep 3, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I swear to God, Zelasko only got her job because she was Jamie McCourt friend, and even Frank McCourt knows he can’t get rid of a on screen personality that easily.
Jeanne Zelasko
hosted Fox’s Network MLB Pregame show for many years, well before she may have met Ms. McCourt.
You may not like her but she certainly is well qualifed to host a post-game regional network broadcast.
Except when she was hired with the Dodgers., one of the first thing mentioned was her great relationship with Jamie McCourt.
NEWSFLASH
who you know helps you get your foot in the door!
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
So her relationship with someone not affiliated with the broadcast side of the team
and not her long affiliation with Fox is what got her the job.
Though
I will add that the last two jobs I got, it helped that I knew someone there who could vouch for me, though I did have to go through an interview.
What does 2 years do for us? Those are under team control. That’s drop in the bucket type shit.
by Michael White on Sep 3, 2010 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
The same thing two years for Kemp, Ethier and Broxton did for us
Keep the Dodgers out of arbitration-based negotiations. Your good point is that those are his last two years of arb, so one would expect a multi-year deal to be at three years minimum, to buy out at least one year of FA.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
$18m would be an absolute max for his next two years.
Verlander got $19.5m for those 2 years as part of his multi-year deal
Felix got $16.5m, but if you spread out the signing bonus it’s $17.9m
rounding up a bit, a 50% raise twice for Bills means $6m/$9m for the next two years. Maybe a bump to 7/10 or something like that.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 3, 2010 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Kemp's Dodger show
back when he was good
by SeanMillerSavior on Sep 3, 2010 10:02 PM PDT reply actions
Just heard a rumor that Mark Prior was signed by the Rangers and assigned to their AAA team.
Trying to confirm.
It has been reported in several places today
by Eric Stephen on Sep 3, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought that was Ryan Stiles rookie card
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
and that’s when he was taking steroids!
by 68elcamino427 on Sep 3, 2010 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Before this pic
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Dropping his pants at first base
was just an improvisational sketch reflex action?
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
They cant possibly think he’ll pitch in the big leagues for them can they…
Signing him now with the minor league season almost over seems strange.
It's a way to get a good look at him
against much more worth competition than indy ball at very little cost. How many games left in the AAA season for them? The Isotopes had 4 left.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
They can try him out in September
Their lead is big enough that they can try him out in September and if he shows he is OK they get a far better idea then if they wait until Spring. I think it is a proactive signing.
Did anyone know this about Kemp.. . .wow
In 2002, while playing in a High School All-Star Basketball tournament, Matt Kemp, along with four teammates, including Williams, were accused of raping a 19 year-old woman on January 20, 2002 at the Columbus, Ohio Hyatt hotel.345 The players were suspended from the team during the investigation.
by SeanMillerSavior on Sep 3, 2010 10:08 PM PDT reply actions
The woman did not press charges, and the district attorney opted to not pursue the matter due to a lack of evidence.
by SeanMillerSavior on Sep 3, 2010 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I know you weren’t being flippant, but this response made me laugh out loud :)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 3, 2010 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
well
my tone was flippant when I said it aloud before typing!
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Oh haha
I was trying to find his high school basketball info and that just jumped out at me
by SeanMillerSavior on Sep 3, 2010 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
It came up when people found out he was dating Rihanna.
At least that’s when I heard about it.
by Michael White on Sep 3, 2010 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
like 4 times
but hes innocent I tell you
by SeanMillerSavior on Sep 3, 2010 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I think thats what is referred to as a straw man argument.
To suggest that athletes get accused of rape all the time is flat out ridiculous, and it minimized the severity of the one’s that actually do.
There isn't even an argument being made
the only point is that this does happen quite a bit.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
This article was back in 2003
Said 164 male athletes had been accused of sexual crime in the previous dozen years
More like its not uncommon for college age males to be accused of sexual assault by college age women. It happens. It happens whether you’re an athlete, frat guy, nerd, geek, or just a horny bastard.
Some believe that
charges against athletes get reported to the police at a higher rate than others.
And my point wasn’t to belittle the charge, if that is how it was taken, I am sorry. But it is not as if it happens so rarely, that when it does show up in someone past, we should be shocked.
Matt Kemp was never accused of the rape. Just that he was in the group when they were arrested. Shelden Williams was the one alleged to committed the rape. Which makes sense, since he went to Duke.
by Tripon on Sep 3, 2010 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Matt only watched …
and leaned against the rail …
by 68elcamino427 on Sep 3, 2010 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Good night all. One thing I’ll say…it’s nice to have a pitcher who seemingly owns our one true rival. Good work Bills.
Oh shit
Josh Suchon just dropped the hypothetical Broxton-for-Fielder swap on Dodger Talk. (Note: he was just speculating, talking out loud).
Interesting.
Broxton plus prospects?
no way they do that straight up. Or is their pitching really THAT bad.
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
Yeah, he mentioned not necessarily straight up, but just was thinking out loud, filling two holes.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 3, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I try to be very careful not to think aloud
when it’s about filling two holes.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Dave with the Nike strategy in this regard.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 3, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Just do it
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
Go for the big blast?
Note: these were in the hills above Chatsworth until 1978.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Not sure what you are referring to
All the Nike missile sites were inactivated in the 1970s and the U.S. has no more Nikes, though a few of our allies do.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Well, and he’ll be expensive and its only 1 year before they lose him to FA anyway.
But yes, I’m sure the Dodgers kick in prospects.
by Michael White on Sep 3, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Loney for Tom Gorzelanny +, or something like that.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 3, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Gorzelanny seems to good to get back for loney
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
based on this year at least
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
Loney has a lot of value for teams who don’t use advanced metrics to rate players. The Cubs are one of them.
The Cubs were still smart enough
to dump Ryan Theriot. ;-)
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I would think you would put SF in that category
Maybe Houston too.
I bet they all use them, they just differ on how much weight they give them.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Except the Dodgers were the one team to fire their sabermetircally oriented GM for an ‘old-school’ type.
Or you could say
Some old crusty dude with tons of experience vs. some guy who had absolutely no experience.
That is one of those that seems so obvious, but I never put two and two together before.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 3, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
His defense would drive me nuts though
imagine all the bad throws by furcal going by him…
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
So did I mention that Billz is an
ACE
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
This ones for you Josie
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
The Simpsons – Comments about PhDs and Grad Students.
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
Caller on Dodger Talk taking the Loney conundrum to an extreme!
He wanted Loney to move to 3B (ignoring the fact that Loney is LH), and that Gibbons would be the everyday 1B.
hehe
that could be entertaining
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
Lets just put him in right field
what could go wrong?
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
by nolander on Sep 3, 2010 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
It was just so LOUD
I think I’ll always remember that game.
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
anyone know Bills all time record/numbers against the giants?
seems like he always has their number whenever he pitches.
Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?
Barajas & Bills, The John Wayne Connection
The Town will be saved!
by 68elcamino427 on Sep 3, 2010 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
The anti-Cain
Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
Off season priority should be giving Bills a 3 year deal at least (buys out one FA). Same thing the Giants did w/Cain.
yes it should
that and two more starters
Show Me The Money!
by 68elcamino427 on Sep 3, 2010 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Well this is a nice surprise after a terrible day at work
Macarena fever!!!
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I still love you, but only when we're not talking"
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