Dodgers September In Review: No Offense In Sight
by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2010 1:00 PM PDT
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PrintThe 1988 Dodgers are brought up often simply because they are the last Dodger team to win a World Series. Any time something comes up that reminds us of 1988, this is a good thing.
Well, almost any time.
In September this year, the Dodgers scored 78 runs. Total. That's three runs per game. Since moving to Los Angeles, the club has scored fewer runs per game than that just three times (in 53 years, by the way): 1967, 1969, and 1988.
Two of those years were in the 1960s, in a lower offensive environment and one of the best pitching parks ever. The adjusted OPS+ for the Dodgers in September was 70 (with 100 being average). The only month worse offensively was 1988, with a 62 OPS+. At least September saw a division getting clinched, with more to come.
The Dodgers were so bad in September that it took a sweep of the Rockies to end their month with 10 wins.
Dodger Batter of September: A.J. Ellis is the pick here, as he has kind of come out of nowhere to at the very least make himself a viable candidate for 2011 backup catcher. Ellis hit an amazing .455/.561/.545 in September. Sure it was heavily BABIP-driven (with an obscene .517 batting average on balls in play), but even lowering his BABIP to .310 (taking away six singles) puts his OPS at .778, which would still lead the team.
All you need to know about the offense is that Matt Kemp put up his fourth straight month with a sub-.300 on-base percentage, yet his .269 OBP ranked as high as ninth on the team among the 18 position players.
Dodger Pitcher of September: Clayton Kershaw finished his season strong, averaging nearly seven innings per start in September, putting up a 2.38 ERA and 0.853 WHIP. Kershaw passed 200 innings and 200 strikeouts for the first time, had his first shutout, and nearly had another one in his final start of the year. To show how badly the offense jacked the pitching staff, Kershaw was 2-2 on the month, and that .500 record was the best on the starting staff, one that put up a collective 4.11 ERA.
Honorable mention goes to Chad Billingsley, who put up a 3.06 ERA and a team-leading 1.99 FIP and 39 strikeouts. Also, Kenley Jansen and Hong-Chih Kuo each put up sub-1.00 ERAs and combined for 28 strikeouts in 20 2/3 innings.
September Record: 10-16
78 runs scored (3.00 per game)
112 runs allowed (4.31 per game)
.340 pythagorean winning percentage (9-17)
| September NL West Standings | |||||
| Club | W-L | Pct | GB | RS | RA |
| Giants |
17-8 | .680 | -- | 93 | 49 |
| Rockies | 14-13 | .519 | 4 | 159 | 131 |
| Padres | 12-15 | .444 | 6 | 81 | 109 |
| Diamondbacks | 10-15 | .400 | 7 | 89 | 105 |
| Dodgers | 10-16 | .385 | 7½ | 78 | 112 |
The Giants, amazingly, allowed fewer than two runs per game in September.
Season Record: 78-81
656 runs scored (4.13 per game)
682 runs allowed (4.29 per game)
.482 pythagorean winning percentage (77-82)
| Season NL West Standings | |||||
| Club | W-L | Pct | GB | RS | RA |
| Giants |
90-68 | .570 | --- | 684 | 572 |
| Padres | 88-70 | .557 | 2 | 655 | 571 |
| Rockies | 83-75 | .525 | 7 | 768 | 701 |
| Dodgers | 78-81 | .491 | 12½ | 656 |
682 |
| Diamondbacks | 64-94 | .405 | 26 | 702 | 821 |
| *through September 29 | |||||
Games of the Month: The Dodgers weren't playing for anything other than trying to spoil the Giants' season, but the September 14 series opener in San Francisco was still exciting nonetheless. The crowd was into the game as if this was game 163 and the two clubs were fighting for one playoff berth. Kershaw was magnificent, pitching his first complete game, and it happened to be a shutout, which was needed. The Dodgers were only able to collect one hit on the evening, and that didn't even lead to a run. The Dodgers used two walks, a hit-by-pitch, and an error to plate the one run they needed, beating the hated rivals, 1-0. It was the sixth game since 1920 that the Dodgers won with only one hit.
Welcome Aboard: Russ Mitchell and John Lindsey each made their major league debuts in September. Mitchell made 10 starts in total, mixing time at first base, third base, and left field, becoming the only Dodger since 1920 (the Baseball-Reference.com Play Index only goes back that far) to start games at first, third, and the outfield in his first season. John Lindsey was a great feel-good story, finally getting his cup of coffee after percolating for 16 years in the minor leagues, but his season ended roughly a week too soon, when an errant fastball broke his left hand. Lindsey got his first, and only, hit on September 12, and Mitchell got his first hit, a home run, on September 16.
Milestone: Kenley Jansen pitched a perfect eighth inning on September 11, picking up his first major league win.
Thanks For Playing: Eight days after letting Manny Ramirez go on a waiver claim to the White Sox, the Dodgers jettisoned his buddy, designating Ronnie Belliard for assignment. Then, on September 18, while the Dodgers were hosting Colorado at Dodger Stadium, they pulled a reverse Garland, trading Octavio Dotel to the opposing clubhouse, a few hundred feet away.
Pinch Hitting: For the month, Dodger pinch hitters had nine hits in 46 at-bats, with two doubles and three walks, hitting .196/.245/.239.
On the season, Dodger pinch hitters are hitting .217/.270/.288, compared to the NL hitting .225/.294/.350.
Runners in Scoring Position: In September, the Dodgers hit .211/.305/.339 with runners in scoring position in 207 plate appearances. On the season, the Dodgers are hitting .257/.350/.405 with RISP, compared to .261/.352/.411 for the NL.
They had a runner on third base with less than two outs all of 35 times, and got the runner home 18 times, or 51.4% (the entire NL scored 379 of 768, 49.3%).
They had a runner on second base with nobody out 49 times, and the runner advanced 16 times, or 32.7% (the entire NL advanced the runner 354 of 925 times, 38.3%).
Upcoming Month: The Dodgers finish their season with three games at home against the Diamondbacks, October 1-3.
Previous Months in Review: April | May | June | July | August
September Stats
| Player | PA | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SB/CS | BA/OBP/SLG | OPS |
| Ellis | 42 | 33 | 2 | 15 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 6 | 7 | 0/0 | .455/.561/.545 | 1.106 |
| Gibbons | 50 | 48 | 7 | 12 | 2 | 0 | 3 | 11 | 1 | 0/1 | .250/.260/.479 | .739 |
| Ethier | 91 | 75 | 7 | 16 | 2 | 1 | 3 | 9 | 15 | 0/1 | .213/.341/.387 | .727 |
| Loney | 88 | 77 | 5 | 18 | 6 | 1 | 1 | 8 | 10 | 1/1 | .234/.330/.377 | .706 |
| Barajas | 44 | 40 | 4 | 9 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 6 | 3 | 0/0 | .225/.295/.400 | .695 |
| Kemp | 93 | 86 | 10 | 18 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 9 | 7 | 1/1 | .209/.269/.395 | .664 |
| Blake | 83 | 77 | 7 | 17 | 3 | 0 | 3 | 7 | 6 | 0/0 | .221/.277/.377 | .654 |
| Furcal | 84 | 75 | 9 | 18 | 3 | 2 | 0 | 4 | 8 | 4/0 | .240/.313/.333 | .647 |
| Theriot | 90 | 78 | 7 | 11 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 9 | 2/0 | .141/.239/.141 | .380 |
| Starters |
665 | 589 | 58 | 134 | 23 | 6 | 15 | 60 | 66 | 8/3 | .228/.309/.363 | .672 |
| Oeltjen | 28 | 21 | 5 | 5 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 4 | 0/0 | .238/.385/.381 | .766 |
| Carroll | 43 | 42 | 2 | 14 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 1 | 1/0 | .333/.349/.405 | .754 |
| Hu | 17 | 15 | 2 | 3 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1/0 | .200/.235/.267 | .502 |
| Podsednik | 27 | 26 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 0/0 | .115/.148/.308 | .456 |
| Mitchell | 41 | 40 | 3 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 4 | 0 | 0/0 | .150/.146/.300 | .446 |
| Johnson | 51 | 49 | 5 | 7 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 1/0 | .143/.176/.224 | .401 |
| Lindsey | 13 | 12 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0/0 | .083/.154/.083 | .237 |
| Ausmus | 7 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0/0 | .000/.143/.000 | .143 |
| Belliard | 6 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0/0 | .000/.000/.000 | .000 |
| Bench |
233 | 216 | 19 | 39 | 8 | 1 | 4 | 11 | 8 | 3/0 | .181/.222/.282 | .504 |
| Pitchers |
56 | 49 | 1 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0/0 | .102/.102/.102 | .204 |
| Totals |
954 | 854 | 78 | 178 | 31 | 7 | 19 | 73 | 74 | 11/3 | .208/.277/.328 | .604 |
| Pitcher | G | W-L | Sv | IP | H | R | ER | BB | K | ERA | WHIP | FIP* |
| Kershaw | 5 | 2-2 | -- | 34.0 | 22 | 11 | 9 | 7 | 32 | 2.38 | 0.853 | 2.61 |
| Billingsley | 5 | 1-3 | -- | 32.1 | 24 | 13 | 11 | 13 | 39 | 3.06 | 1.144 | 1.99 |
| Kuroda | 5 | 1-2 | -- | 34.1 | 28 | 15 | 13 | 8 | 28 | 3.41 | 1.049 | 3.05 |
| Lilly | 5 | 1-3 | -- | 31.1 | 29 | 15 | 15 | 7 | 32 | 4.31 | 1.149 | 4.83 |
| Padilla | 1 | 0-1 | -- | 4.0 | 5 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 5 | 6.75 | 1.500 | 4.70 |
| Ely | 3 | 0-2 | -- | 15.2 | 18 | 13 | 13 | 12 | 14 | 7.47 | 1.915 | 6.84 |
| Monasterios | 2 | 0-0 | -- | 6.0 | 11 | 9 | 8 | 5 | 3 | 12.00 | 2.667 | 8.53 |
| Starters | 26 |
5-13 | -- | 157.2 | 137 | 79 | 72 | 53 | 153 | 4.11 | 1.205 | 3.72 |
| Monasterios | 2 | 0-0 | -- | 4.0 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 0.00 | 0.750 | 0.70 |
| Jansen | 10 | 1-0 | 2 | 11.1 | 4 | 1 | 1 | 6 | 16 | 0.79 | 0.882 | 2.23 |
| Kuo | 9 | 0-0 | 4 | 9.1 | 4 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 12 | 0.96 | 0.643 | 1.27 |
| Dotel | 6 | 1-0 | 0 | 6.2 | 6 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 8 | 2.70 | 1.200 | 5.15 |
| Belisario | 13 | 1-0 | 1 | 11.0 | 8 | 4 | 4 | 2 | 7 | 3.27 | 0.909 | 3.65 |
| Troncoso | 8 | 1-1 | -- | 10.0 | 13 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3.60 | 1.700 | 3.00 |
| Link | 3 | 0-0 | -- | 3.0 | 5 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 6.00 | 2.000 | 2.53 |
| Broxton | 9 | 0-2 | 0/1 | 7.1 | 12 | 7 | 7 | 9 | 4 | 8.59 | 2.864 | 8.93 |
| Sherrill | 11 | 1-0 | -- | 4.0 | 7 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 6 | 9.00 | 2.500 | 4.95 |
| Weaver | 4 | 0-0 | -- | 4.2 | 11 | 8 | 8 | 1 | 2 | 15.43 | 2.571 | 8.56 |
| Relievers | 26 |
5-3 | 7/8 | 71.1 | 73 |
33 | 33 | 30 | 65 | 4.16 | 1.444 | 3.89 |
| Totals | 26 |
10-16 | 7/8 | 229.0 | 210 | 112 | 105 | 83 | 218 | 4.13 | 1.279 | 3.77 |
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New post-season transaction deadlines
Instead of the typical 15-day free agent filing period following the World Series, it will be five days. The deadline for a team to offer arbitration to its own free agents has been December 1st; it’s now November 23rd. December 7th has been the deadline for free agents to accept or decline arbitration offers from their old teams; it’s now November 30th. December 12th has been the non-tender deadline; it’s now December 2nd.
With the Winter Meetings taking place
after all of these deadlines, you should see a lot of signings during those meetings.
I think Ellis has done more then just make a play for
backup catcher, as many of us have said before the bar is simply not that high for him to hurdle. Throw in the cost and I think he’s in the pitcher.
Does this affect negotiations with Martin?
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That big four was quite a rotation.
Just for shits and giggles if McDonald had been the fifth piece, might they have been the best rotation in baseball in Sept?
Not with the way the Giants have been pitching
by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Their starters’ ERA in September is 2.05.
Their bullpen has been even better, at 1.18
by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m coming around to the idea that they have a shot to go somewhere in the playoffs, if they get there.
If they get past the Phillies when we couldn't
it will be the longest winter in Dodger land since 1985.
i can honestly say
i don’t give a shit who wins the NL pennent as long as it’s not the Giants
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
And the first shoe drops
Kevin_Goldstein
Some rumors starting to swirl about the #Dodgers and Logan White; or rather, Logan White and no longer with the #Dodgers.
Frank McCourt says
Waitaminute, waitaminute. You had me spend five million dollars on this guy, and he’s just a MINOR LEAGUER?!?!
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe they got tired of him
trying to be a GM. Or maybe they are going after Bane? Or maybe he and Ned had a falling out over how McDonald/Elbert were handled. Or maybe Logan is going to replace Bane?
Are we gonna swap ex's again?
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Why?
Other than the backup quarterback theory?
by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I mean why does it matter if White leaves?
I think too many people assume he is in line for the Dodger GM job that is nowhere near vacant, even though nobody has any idea how White will do in the big boy chair.
That’s the backup quarterback theory. Everyone wants the backup, but what they are really saying is I don’t want the current guy, even though I have no idea how the new guy will do.
Since the 2002-2003 class, how does White stack up against other MLB talent gatherers? I ask because I don’t know. It seems that we have Kershaw in 2006 more because we sucked in 2005 than because of White, and outside of that (acknowledging Santana, DeWitt, and maybe Bell), the cupboard is bare.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d like to know too. I had a much higher opinion of the Dodgers drafts before this season and to some degree last season.
What was bad about the Dodgers draft this season?
Just curious. Seemed like a good draft to me, but of course none of us know anything yet really.
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I didn’t mean this year’s draft, more looking at the players that reached or didn’t reach the majors that have been taken in past drafts.
Ah, gotcha
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If the team had signed the guys
he had actually drafted, they’d be looking very good, but I agree, he’s still living off of a great draft early in his career.
Your argument about Logan is the same one I have about Kim Ng.
Are you talking about
Price – who has repeatedly said he was going to school
White – who now projects as a reliever
Blair – who was drafted a few rounds higher than he was in 2007
Savery – who is now going to be shifting as a hitter.
what is it with these Cox
not signing with the Dodgers?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
The backup qb theory is alive and well with a lot of folks on this blog. I see it living and breathing every day. Look below regarding the Stultz comment…sheesh!
Good analogy.
by KellyStephen on Sep 30, 2010 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Kurt Warner?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Since the 2002-2003 class, how does White stack up against other MLB talent gatherers? I ask because I don’t know. It seems that we have Kershaw in 2006 more because we sucked in 2005 than because of White, and outside of that (acknowledging Santana, DeWitt, and maybe Bell), the cupboard is bare.
This, and this again.
For the past few years, the Dodger farm system has been ranked near the bottom of MLB. The defense — “They graduated all their top prospects” — only lasts for so many years, especially when we see the kind of regression from that talent that we saw this year.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Off the top of my head
I don’t really care if Logan goes, most scouting directors are unable to replicate success for an extended period of time but would worry me is that Logan may have helped Ned from making a plethora of McDonald for Dotel type of trades and with the check and balance out of the picture we might see more of those.
Or maybe White convinced the powers that be that this was a team that the current Dodger core would develop in the majors into the core of a WS-quality club, with at least one of them making the leap to superstar, and staked his job on it.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Sure an umemployed guy usually does
did you mean he “had” a lower position? If so how does that matter, people try to improve on their next job just as Logan has been trying to be a GM. As has Bane.
Bane, who is not been officially
taken off their website, is listed as their Head of Scouting, White has a higher position and certainly one more inside the Baseball Ops as an Asst. GM.
Everyone has a VP title for the Dodgers
That does not mean the actual job is any different then someone who does not have a VP title, because most teams don’t hand them out like candy. He was certainly high enough to be considered for a GM job.
I read that as titties initially…………what the hell?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I am talking more about
White, he has more responsibility now, since he is also in charge of MLB scouting. There is another person with Bane’s job on the Dodgers.
Is that a serious question? Please tell me no.
by KellyStephen on Sep 30, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s perfectly OK for the masses to want the Dodgers to acquire an “Eric S.”
by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m telling you, when I own them you’re my first choice at PR and media relations.
by KellyStephen on Sep 30, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope the press won’t mind profanity-laced press releases :)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
From me or you? Give me a couple of beers and a lousy performance by the team and I’ll make Tommy Lasorda sound like a f’ing choir boy.
by KellyStephen on Sep 30, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
i already like this idea. Though then we’ll be criticizing you for making our superstar to be seemingly lose his focus.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Never f’with a superstar. I’d blame everything on Hu and kick his ass out of here in a full on racial tirade. The rest of the players will think i’m crazy and hate me and they’ll be successful.
I went to the Charlie Finley school of sports management.
by KellyStephen on Sep 30, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
All it takes is one bloody head on a stump to get your point across.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
No way. I’m going to make Ned apologize to Kemp in front of the whole team. Then I’m going to beat Ned over the head with Kemp’s bat. Pull Andre, Matt, Kershaw, and Bills to the front of the room and say “these guys are my guys, my superstars. The rest of you guys are turds.”
(Read “the Machine” if you haven’t; great book.)
by KellyStephen on Sep 30, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
and tell Broxton to get on the treadmill and don’t come back until he’s under 270lbs.
Ronnie Belliard treatment.
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
heh
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't tell me what to do
I’m my own man. Hawk Harrelson says fuck you Finley and the orange ball you rode in on.
Speaking of Hawk, Vin stays on until he dies in the booth.
by KellyStephen on Sep 30, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Also
1) Bonuses for mustaches
2) MC Hammer as VP / batboy
by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
fox already did that
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
They had a game or two with blue tops and white pants at home, and some games (I think interleague only) with gray-billed caps
by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I really liked those hats. Reminded me of the promise of spring training and batting practice. Because after all, those are the only two places you should ever see unis like that.
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Awful
The Dodgers are not the Detroit Lions.
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Wow…don’t remember the blue tops. Must have been in jail. Man, Mondesi looks good. Pre carbohydrates/alcohol days.
by KellyStephen on Sep 30, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't the uniforms NICER during the Fox era?
I seem to recall stitched-on patches for the Dodgers/Los Angeles lettering on the front, with nice white backing on the Los Angeles script.
Now everything looks ironed on. In my opinion, it looks chintzy.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I always liked the white piping around the letters and numbers
Then again, it was probably because of this:
by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
That's what I'm talking about.
Putting the white piping back would make the unis look much classier.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
The Karate Kid was sent over there too, but I don’t want him on the Dodgers either.
by KellyStephen on Sep 30, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Pinch hitting
For many years (’04 – ’07 maybe?) it seemed like we always had great pinch hitting compared to the league. The last few years our pinch hitting has been a joke.
*Disclaimer
I could easily be wrong about this as I am basing this off memory without looking up the stats and I am also probably biased because I loved The Killer Tomato for about two years.
Brad Ausmus and Juan Castro hit .300 last year.
by regfairfield on Sep 30, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
The good feel story
of the recovery of Sherrill sure took a nasty turn in Sept.
Go back to Sept 09 for Sherrill/Broxton and what a difference.
Jeff Kent retches
at the sight of A.J. Ellis’ untucked jersey.
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at least Austin Peay still has a baseball program!
by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Did anyone check out the sky yesterday in the dusk hours?
I could see a rainbow over downtown
from my office window in El Segundo last yesterday afternoon.
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I was playing softball. It was awesome.
by robotmadeofnails on Sep 30, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
DBacks threatening in top of 3rd tho
vs Bumgarner
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But surprise surprise Chris Young strikes out and threat over.
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Really?
“Krasovic hears that the D’Backs considered offering Mark Reynolds to the A’s for Kevin Kouzmanoff and Vin Mazzaro before Kevin Towers took over as the team’s GM.”
Sounds like John Ely and Casey Blake to me.
from MLBTR
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funny
i was about to talk about Reynolds too. I wonder if they would take Casey as a stopgap until one of their minor leaguers is ready.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
It doesn’t make a lot of sense, and I don’t expect Towers to just start handing over players, but as someone who has never worked in their organization before he probably has a better sense about who their team is than anyone inside the Diamondbacks front office.
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
He has said he’s going to start looking for guys who make contact. I thought that was funny.
by KellyStephen on Sep 30, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Never underestimate
how being comfortable with your own people/players plays a role in these things.
You can expect some lower level
front office personnel and scouts to move over. Scouts are easier since they don’t have to move away from San Diego.
Whoa whoa whoa lets not be mean to Casey Blake here.
by regfairfield on Sep 30, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Really really bad this year. Probably a hopeless case outside of an extreme hitters park.
by regfairfield on Sep 30, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think the hitter’s park matters that much. The dude plays good defense from what I remember, and his home runs would be home runs anywhere. It’s like saying Adam Dunn’s power wouldn’t translate to Petco. He’d still hit 35 bombs.
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If he’s not hitting 30+ home runs, you can’t count on him to hit more than .230. If you hit .230 without hitting 30+ home runs, it’s gonna be a bad offensive season.
Combine this with bad defense, and I wouldn’t touch him.
by regfairfield on Sep 30, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
A man who had a better year than Mark Reynolds.
by regfairfield on Sep 30, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
i thought his OPS+
was lower than Reynolds?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
99 is lower than 100. Reynolds can’t play defense either though.
by regfairfield on Sep 30, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
yet Reynolds has still managed to be a 2.1WAR player this year. You have to think he’s worth casey Blake and John Ely.
I take that back, Blake, for all his suckitude, is a 2.6 WAR.
All stats Fangraphs
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speaking of Fangraphs
they had an article about a possible Reynolds trade.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Thought he was comparing
Kouz and Mazzaro to Blake and Ely, respectively.
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I was.
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thats... it?
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DBacks load the bases with 1 out
but pitcher Enright is batting.
(Reynolds drew a walk! Then a hit, then a HBP.)
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Well there
are only 5 3B having really good years, Zimmerman, Wright, Rolen, Beltre and Longoria.
The Phillies replaced one poor hitting 3B with another one.
I thought Polonco was doing good?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
95 OPS+
Much more than Pedro Feliz ever hit.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
It's not up to his usual standards, I'll admit,
but the fellow in New York named Rodriguez — he can play for my team.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
and in fact SHOULD be playing for this team
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
And, of course, if he did play for my team, he wouldn't count in this discussion,
because he would be playing shortstop.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I suppose that's true, OK.
But if it is, it’s a happy accident for him. He moved so that the Yankees could play an inferior defender at shortstop. It’s totally worked out for them, because they developed Cano.
It is amazing to me that if I were in charge, I’d have put A-Rod at SS and Jeter at 2B, and I’d have been lauded for that, and it probably would have been the wrong move.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
i heard
he wanted to move to third. A-rod that is.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I dunno. I bet it was complicated. I’ll make this up:
A: “I want to get traded. The Red Sox deal didn’t work out.”
NYY: “Well, we have a shortstop. Maybe you’ve heard of him.”
A: “I’m a better defender than he is. Would he move to 2B?”
NYY: “Lemme check — um, no.”
A: “All right, that’s fine. I’ll move to third base. I want to move to third base if it gets me out of Texas.”
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
probably true
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Even after
Fox traded him?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Sep 30, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
heard good things
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Only 20 players in MLB played at least 1/2 their games at 3B and qualified for the batting title
As rated by OPS+: 9. Reynolds (100 OPS+), 10. Blake (99), 13. Headley (95), 14. Sandoval (93), did not qualify: Stewart (100).
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Dodgers named Jerry Sands and Rubby De La Rosa minor league player and pitcher of the year, respectively
+1
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Here’s to hoping one of them doesn’t break his leg and the other isn’t traded to the Pirates for 17 1/3 crappy IP.
Or quit baseball for unknown reasons.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Ha
although men can actually get one….
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Yes, um, here's hoping.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Sac fly for the pitcher Enright and it's 1-1
2 still on base with 2 outs. Bumgarner nearing 70 pitches before 3 ip.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Hopefully De La Rosa fares better than the last ML pitcher of the year and doesn’t have a meltdown mid-season.
by Michael White on Sep 30, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Goldstein's follow-up tweet on White
No clue, and it’s just a rumor, but man there’s a lot of smoke . . . RT @PastimeGroup: @Kevin_Goldstein Any idea where he’s headed?
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Remember
Ned Colletti announced there will be BIG changes in the offseason
by Michael White on Sep 30, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I think so. My source on this is the morning sports guy on Power 106.
by Michael White on Sep 30, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Is that a uh, reliable source?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Well, he probably didn’t make it up. I think it came from one of the LATimes beat writers. Looking for it now.
by Michael White on Sep 30, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I remember reading that
so he didn’t make it up. What that means is anyone’s guess because based on who we ended the season with under contract of course there will be big changes just to fill out the roster. The real question will be if anyone under contract gets move.
In nedspeak he said there there will be huge changes when he guest hosted Dodgertalk last week.
"We were never friends"
Well
I doubt that firing the VP of Scouting and Player Development counts as a “big move” to the average fan. Most people interpret that as someone on the starting eight and pitching rotation.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Given our current rotation is
Clayton and Chad, big moves will need to be made to fill out the rotation.
I think going into this offseason, Kershaw, Bills, Kuo, and Jansen will be the only ones untouchable. The Dodgers would listen to offers on everyone else, but not necessarily move them unless they like the deal.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd move Kuo
if someone were to make a good pitch for him. This is probably the best he’ll ever be for us, production wise and health wise.
Kuo will never again pitch meaningful innings for the Dodgers.
/just joking around, bob
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think Chad is untouchable
if they can do a two for one like the Diamondbacks did with Scherzer.
Perhaps untouchable was the wrong word
but Chad is close, given the depth.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Clayton and Chad and — oy, we’ll be bad.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Clayton and Chad, and guys old enough to be their dad
by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Clayton and Chad, I’m already mad.
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
The future is looking mighty bad
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Clayton and Chad; the rest tastes like sad.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Did you know
That Clayton Kershaw’s most similar pitcher is Warren Spahn, and Chad Billingsley’s most similar pitcher is Johnny Sain?
Neither did I! And neither should you, because I just made it up.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was being sarcastic above in my initial comment.
by Michael White on Sep 30, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think Canuck is the biggest White fan
I’m sure he felt sick to his stomach when Adkins was drafted. I can remember DT folk going WTF at the time of that draft pick.
I just went back
And saw who was drafted after Adkins before the Dodgers had another pick (so guys they could have selected.) This is a silly exercise anyway, but none of the names looked that impressive. Until I saw who the Marlins picked in the 2nd round….
by Michael White on Sep 30, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Yup.
The pick right before Stanton was 6org drafting Danny Almonte.
by Michael White on Sep 30, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Denny Almonte.
We also could have had Jordan Zimmerman, Freddie Freeman or Jess Todd.
by regfairfield on Sep 30, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
It was a big whiff
not because it didn’t work out but because stiffs like us knew it was a bad pick the minute it was made. I can remember Canuck saying that maybe Logan threw the new scouting director a bone and let him make the pick because it was so unlike Logan to pick a soft throwing college starter that early in the draft.
Freeman
Would have been a nice guy to have in the system as well. Braves could have a nice 3 – 5 with Heyward, McCann, Freeman for a loooong time (if Freeman pans out).
saw him for the first time last night
big guy
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
billazbbphotog: @Kevin_Goldstein For what it’s worth, Logan White was at the Dodgers Advanced Instructs game two days ago.
So has Eric. Well, at least he sends in his resume for review.
by KellyStephen on Sep 30, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought a recent article (by Tony Jackson maybe) listed only Houston as the only other GM job he has interviewed for, before AZ.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
DBacks are seriously LOB-FAILing.
Tons of baserunners vs Bumgarner but only 1 run
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
how many K’s?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
7 hits, 7 Ks.
The DBack way!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Bumgarner pulled after 5
being PH for, bullpen game from now on for Giants
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
And frickin Torres just hits a HR
2-1 gnats now.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
is that even
really a bet?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Well obvi
though the Dbacks likely won’t use their pen til later in the game at this rate. Enrights pitch count is ok
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Enright pitching is better than the DBack bullpen was my point.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
But AT&T Park is a pitcher's park! :-/
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
To get your mind off that, here's a cartoon that reminds me of one of my cats
while I try to watch a game.
http://www.youtube.com/user/simonscat?blend=1&ob=4#p/u/5/s13dLaTIHSg
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
better link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s13dLaTIHSg
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
That's one thing my cats thankfully can't do
(except one time my cat sat on the DVD player remote and started unwittingly fastforwarding)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
23 home runs for Uribe
but was surprised he’s only batting around 240, with a .306 OBP. and a fairly low number of RBIs given the homers. But he’s had some key blasts. Guess that’s why I was surprised.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Rings a bell
25 home runs for Kemp, but was surprised he’s only batting .248, with a .308 OBP and a fairly low number of RBIs given the homers. But he’s my favorite player. Guess that’s why I was surprised.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
If you look at SF relievers'
stats, you will see big swings in effectiveness (outside of Wilson). Again, bullpens are cyclical creatures at best.
Sabean was able to find some offense with Burrell and Huff, Posey’s delay could have cost them big time. Torres has played better (while forcing expensive Rowand to sit). But it is a team filled with lots of PVLs, many of them are making contributions.
speaking of that
anyone here how Latos was complaining about the Giants acquistions? Basically said they had a totally different team from the beginning of the year. Seeing how most of them fell into their laps, what were they supposed to do? Not try and win? Jerks.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
link
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Really
after the year started, the only big addition was Burrell, yes they got Ross and Guillen but the big additions was Posey, Burrell and replacing there other No. 5 guy with Baumgartner.
they ended up DFAing Todd Wellemeyer I think.
Why teams insist on slapping on a terrible #5 starter because their first 4 are good is beyond me. Rotating door #5 starters happen, sure. But they had Wellemeyer as the guy in the 5 spot as if he earned it. Kinda like if we had just let Eric Milton start in the 5 hole until July because, hey, we knew his name.
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
ah yes Wellemeyer
i was there when the Dodgers kicked the shit out of him. I think his first inning he gave up a 2-run blast to Kemp, then a Grand Slam to Ethier.
good times.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
As Eric said
In 13 Monk starts, the Dodgers went 7-6. I do think innings eater is more important here because if they are good, they won’t be a 5th starter for long.
You are saying he is as dumb and possibly douchy as his picture made him look?
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are couples changing their relationships via twitter?
fighting via twitter
having twitter sex
blind twittering
Here I am, taking to Twitter
To show you all: yes, I’m a quitter.
I won’t cause a rift —
Instead, here’s a gift:
I’ve left a huge dump in the shitter.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
easy rec
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Huh-huh, you said “coming.”
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Mike Judge
needs money
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
King of the Hill > Beavis and Butthead
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
meh
never enjoyed KOTH
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Thought it was stupid the first time around, and I was definitely the target age group.
by Michael White on Sep 30, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Did you watch the movie?
"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein
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you should
its a damn funny movie. Even Ebert and Siskel agreed on that. Much more substance then the actual tv show
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I am just wondering
is this the first playoff clinching opportunity for MCC? I am guessing that is true unless they were around in 2003
So now we wait
old news for many of you but with everything now said and done, the judge has 90 days to make a decision. The McCourts have to decide if they will settle before the Judge makes his judgment.
Of course the decision is just one more hurdle before we have a clear understanding of the future of the Dodger ownership.
Giants don't lose
Giants need just one win against the Padres to win the division. As well as clinch the #2 seed.
Of their 8 losses in September
4 came when they were shut out, 2 when they scored 1 run, 1 when they scored 2 runs and the loss last Saturday when they scored 9 runs.
cant wait for the giants 17 million dollar man to be a loogy in the playoffs
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 30, 2010 3:17 PM PDT reply actions
If the Padres win tonight
then there is a 0% chance of the NL West ending in a tie. I could really go for the Giants, Reds and Padres all ending with the same record. Tie for the NL West and tie for the Wild-card. Not sure how they’d do that. But I am all up for screwing up Bud Selig’s playoff schedule even more.
Only way that can happen now is if the Padres lose today and sweep the Giants.
While the Braves lose two of three to Philly.
That’s it.
1 out of 64 odds
if every game was 50/50, but it will be quite a bit lower than that since the Giants should be favorites (haven’t looked at pitching matchups yet) in games vs San Diego and the Phillies possibly milking it in Hotlanta.
1 out of 64 if the Pads win tonight that is. Going into the game (later today) it will be 1 out of 128, assuming 50/50.
Confused
Didn’t follow that. There can’t be a three-way tie if the Padres win tonight.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Sigh, well done AZ
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Didn't know it was raining in San Diego
starting 15 minutes late. I assume due to weather/lightning.
I love thunder and lightning
any historians want to enlighten me. It was my understanding that when BF invented the lightning rod, it helped prevent many house fires that used to be caused by lightening, yet I never see a lightening rod on any houses. Por qué
no lo se
but you remind me of my 6 year old, who stumps me all the time with “why” questions. Recently it has been with volcanos and what is the only thing a volcano can’t burn. I told her it was probably diamonds – then she asked if we could build our house out of diamonds. I said sure, go ask your mom first.
One answer
Many lightning protection systems on newer construction, especially residences, are concealed or built in during construction. Only the 10" neutral colored points or air terminals are visible from the exterior of the building. The cables, connectors, clamps, etc. are coursed underneath the roof, built-in between the rafters and the studs during construction and grounds are located either in the basement or outside the foundation below grade.
another note
A lightning protection system properly installed in accordance with the latest standard requirements is approximately 99% effective in preventing potential lightning damage. These statistics are furnished by the Underwriters Laboratories on UL Master Label inspected systems starting in 1923 to the present.
Heck of a reply
so being in a house is a good place during a lightning storm.
What is the closest anyone here has come to being hit by lightning?
I missed the fun, but last night two cars did some damage and knocked over the fire hydrant about 30 yards from my house. My wife said it was just like the movies with the geyser rocketing into the sky. Wish I had seen it.
Also heard the key on a string thing is BS, that if it had happened BF would have likely died. That being said, it’s a good tale to get kids excited about science.
I was driving up the 37 (?) to Big Bear in a storm one night and the car next to us was struck. Was kind of crazy, and actually didn’t seem to do much damage. Just a big flash. We kept driving though, so I couldn’t really tell you.
"Remember, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Except for herpes. That shit'll come back with you."
I'm pretty sure a plane I was on was hit
which was exciting because I was only 17 and it was the first time I was flying by myself.
Cars are very safe place to be in a lightning storm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cage
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Logan is here!
pdotmac1: RT @jimcallisBA: Talking to Logan White right now: He has not been dismissed by the #Dodgers.
I was surprised to see that today's Detroit-Baltimore game has been rescheduled as part of a double header tomorrow
And here might be one reason why:
If the Dodgers win out against AZ… and the Angels lose out against the Rangers… AND the Tigers lose all four against the Orioles…
Then the Dodgers would have the 16th-best record and do not get a protected draft pick, right?
You and I both know they are going to sign some crappy Type A guy, so the shit cherry on top of the shit sundae that has been this season is still in play.
Fuck You Ruiz
Here's the thing
if the Dodgers end up tied with any other team besides the Angels, they will move to the worst draft position. The Dodgers can only finish 15th at this point as every other team has 82 wins or more.
If the Dodgers end up tied with the Angeles, the Angels pick further back because they had a better 2009 record than the Dodgers.
Sorry, I’m not getting it.
I count 14 teams that have 82 wins or more right now. So that would mean one unprotected spot, #16, still in play. Am I wrong?
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
No, I am just using the same number in reverse
There is only spot that is available for the Dodgers to move into where they could possibly have to give up a pick, the 15th (which would be 16th overall pick +3 so it would be the 19th pick, there are 3 additional compensation picks prior to that pick)
Right, only one spot available
But all it takes is one.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
While I think there is a chance the Dodgers win out
I also think there is a better chance that the Angels also win at least 81 games.
Wait --
You think there’sa better chance that the Angels take three of four from the Rangers than the Dodgers sweep AZ?
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2010 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I think that — assuming the Dodgers win out — the best chance we have is Detroit splitting or winning the series against the Orioles.
Fuck You Ruiz
by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Rangers have not been playing well
and they have no shot to host a first round series so they will rest guys.
Why did people, when reacting to the Logan rumor, think that Logan was being dismissed as opposed to leaving voluntarily?
This never made sense to me
since it would be (at least structurally) step down and also the Angles are not what call big spenders either on the draft.
We don't like Ned and Frank
thus we think there is a good chance he doesn’t either.
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You do realize that some of Ned's decisions
were probably made with Logan (and others input), I have never understood how one part of the Front Office is revered while the other is reviled. Folks they are on the same team.
What we do know
is that Ned makes all final decisions that a GM would make. How he takes input from his plethora of vice presidents we can only conjecture at.
What we do know is that Logan runs the draft and we don’t know how much input Ned has.
I have little idea what Kim actually does.
Since Ned makes the final decisions and if we don’t like the final decisions it seems natural that he would take the heat for them. I find it very hard to believe that Logan or DeJon is saying, Yup Ned trade out two time minor league pitcher of the year for a 60 day rental of a set up man. Who cares how much we spent on training him over the last seven years, let the Pirates reap that reward.
Just suggesting what the thought process might be
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So is that what you were getting at earlier.
That was never clear to me, I understood the two different levels. So you were taking my Bane for Logan comment seriously?
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