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Dodgers Score, But Not Enough To Win, Drop Sixth Straight

Both teams hit home runs, but the Astros had one more person on base than the Dodgers on their dinger, leading to a 3-2 Houston win in the opening game of a three-game series at Minute Maid Park. It was the Dodgers' sixth straight loss.

Andre Ethier hit a shot to left center, off the facing of the wall but above and to the right of the yellow line for a two-run home run in the first inning, for the Dodgers' first lead since Saturday. It was Ethier's first home run since August 25, against Milwaukee. Ethier also walked three times tonight.

Ted Lilly didn't give up a run in the first five innings, but with two men on in the sixth inning Chris Johnson crushed a pitch into the railroad tracks in left field, giving the Astros a 3-2 lead. This was Lilly's seventh quality start in eight starts as a Dodger.

Kenley Jansen pitched a perfect eighth inning, striking out two more batters. Every time Jansen has faced three or more batters in an appearance, he has struck out at least one batter.

There were a few firsts tonight for the Dodgers:

  • John Lindsey made his first major league at-bat tonight, flying out to right center field in the seventh inning off left-hander Gustavo Chacin.
  • A.J. Ellis threw out Jason Bourgeois at second base, the first time a Dodger catcher has thrown out a base stealer since July 23. Runners had stolen 40 straight bases off Dodger catchers, including 31 straight since Russell Martin got hurt on August 3.

Hiroki Kuroda starts Friday for the Dodgers, against the lefty J.A. Happ.

WP - Bud Norris (7-8):  6 IP, 3 hits, 2 runs (1 earned), 4 walks, 7 strikeouts

LP - Ted Lilly (8-10):  6 IP, 7 hits, 3 runs, 2 walks, 6 strikeouts

Sv - Brandon Lyon (14):  3 up, 3 down

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Juan Uribe hitting HR’s to right center.

4-1 Giants

by Alex41592 on Sep 9, 2010 8:03 PM PDT reply actions  

2W-12L
These be my lovable bums

by 68elcamino427 on Sep 9, 2010 8:04 PM PDT reply actions  

sorry, getting ahead of myself :)
drama

by 68elcamino427 on Sep 9, 2010 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

After Saturday you may be right :)

by Eric Stephen on Sep 9, 2010 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

BUMmer

"I still love my ex-wife, but only when we're not talking"

by angelofdeath on Sep 9, 2010 8:05 PM PDT reply actions  

I didn’t realize Lindsey hit tonight. Must have missed it when I was out. :(

by Michael Kieser on Sep 9, 2010 8:05 PM PDT reply actions  

long can ’o corn to right center

by 68elcamino427 on Sep 9, 2010 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

sandbox at Petco Stadium RCF

where little kids are playing with shovels & buckets? really?

by DodgerSF on Sep 9, 2010 8:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Kenley now has 29 K. Justin Miller has 30, and Belisario is at 33.

Jansen will likely end up 3rd in strikeouts in the Dodger bullpen this year. Awesome.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 9, 2010 8:07 PM PDT reply actions  

and he’s just getting started

by 68elcamino427 on Sep 9, 2010 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t say things like that!

Wait a minute... Statue of Liberty... that was our planet!

by MR.F. on Sep 9, 2010 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

heh
Dodgers have him under control for a few years, just as was the case with Broxton

by 68elcamino427 on Sep 9, 2010 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right. No chance Jansen is traded (at least short of a monster deal.)

by Michael White on Sep 9, 2010 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I haven’t watched BB tonight yet.

I can’t believe that this 3 is the final 3. 2 of the dumber guys ever on the show make it to the final 3. They got

extremely lucky that Hayden got hot and won comps when he did.

Hayden will win for sure.

by keithc13 on Sep 9, 2010 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Hayden doesn’t win a vote, I’ll be really pissed.

Enzo and Lane don’t deserve being in the vote with him.

by Michael White on Sep 9, 2010 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unless one of the moron twins win the HOH and (wisely) evicts Hayden.

by Michael White on Sep 9, 2010 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

tru dat

I know who won the first one.

They are uber dumb if one of them take Hayden.

by keithc13 on Sep 9, 2010 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Favre seems to have happy feet

Of course, his O-Line isn’t helping

"I still love my ex-wife, but only when we're not talking"

by angelofdeath on Sep 9, 2010 8:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Following on the CPU

Not sure if the game is good or not.

Seems like not.

Favre has completed 15 passes to 9 guys.

by keithc13 on Sep 9, 2010 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Isn't It Awesome?

When your most dire pessimistic predictions before the season come true?

Someone please just show me a graph that can extrapolate the next year that the Dodger’s won’t suck.

by Cool Dudes on Sep 9, 2010 8:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Would love to

but we have no idea what to expect for next year. There are too many variables to even begin to start guessing as to what their plan is.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/reversestandings/

by G.Scott on Sep 9, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

6-1 Giants

Posey hits one to Temecula.

by Alex41592 on Sep 9, 2010 8:16 PM PDT reply actions  

great, just great. this is just great.

by DodgerSF on Sep 9, 2010 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is it great?

I think it just may be.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 9, 2010 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

No.

That would not be great.

Just wanted to clear up some confusion.

by Cool Dudes on Sep 9, 2010 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ohhhh

I appreciate that, DodgerSF had me confused :)

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 9, 2010 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

it is great, the same type of great as Lindsey’s smile last night after he got repealed. You know, the fake kind.

by DodgerSF on Sep 9, 2010 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I want to combine his name with his ex-teammate

Buster Merkin.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 9, 2010 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haven't posted in a while, but

I have to come here and say that I may be the only person who gets that. Nice job.

by TopDeckTrueBlue on Sep 9, 2010 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I get it, too =X

Wait a minute... Statue of Liberty... that was our planet!

by MR.F. on Sep 9, 2010 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Posey is making the Giants look bad for keeping him in the minors at the start of the year.

by Joey Joe on Sep 9, 2010 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damned oyster pubes!

Wait a minute... Statue of Liberty... that was our planet!

by MR.F. on Sep 9, 2010 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Will it matter if

they make the playoffs anyway? Postseason and prevented Posey from being a super-two.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 9, 2010 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m going on the premise that they miss the playoffs by a game or two.

May 30th was the best day of the season for the Giants.
-Recalled Buster Posey from Fresno
-Signed Pat Burrell to a minor league contract.

by Joey Joe on Sep 9, 2010 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Posey will end up a Super 2 anyway.

He had 33 days service time coming into the season, and he was recalled on May 29. He will end the season with 161 days of service time.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 9, 2010 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

The service time last year was just dumb. They were out of it and they never even played him.

by Michael White on Sep 9, 2010 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dodgers slump > Padres slump.

In a Venn Diagram, the Dodgers’ slumpiness would be wholly inside the Padres’ slumpiness

by DodgerSF on Sep 9, 2010 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or the other way around?

Dodgers’ encompasses more than Padres’ ?

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 9, 2010 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

i have no idea. i hate venn diagrams

by DodgerSF on Sep 9, 2010 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL Vikings defense

Prevent defense… Saints first down… Game almost done…

"I still love my ex-wife, but only when we're not talking"

by angelofdeath on Sep 9, 2010 8:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Prevent defense prevents wins!

Wait a minute... Statue of Liberty... that was our planet!

by MR.F. on Sep 9, 2010 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why would they be in a prevent defense with under 4 minutes to play down 5?

by keithc13 on Sep 9, 2010 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's basically what it was

They sat in coverage while Brees took the medium gain and a first down, milking some more clock…

"I still love my ex-wife, but only when we're not talking"

by angelofdeath on Sep 9, 2010 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

What a shitty game

Actually no, I’m not talking about the Dodger game. The Saints are up 14-9? A couple of juggernauts, eh?

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 9, 2010 8:22 PM PDT reply actions  

And I survive my survivor pool for week 1.

Nice getting that out of the way on Thursday.

by Michael White on Sep 9, 2010 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

My new job has an office pool

I took NO tonight, woot!

I believe there are 20-22 people in it for 5 bucks each, here’s to an extremely lucky week’s worth of game picks for me.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 9, 2010 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah that's game

Unless Herman Edwards comes out on the field

"I still love my ex-wife, but only when we're not talking"

by angelofdeath on Sep 9, 2010 8:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Also

Football fucking sucks (I love football, but still) because of what is happening right now…play the whole game, I hate this waste of 2 minutes crap. I wonder what games would look like if teams played the full 4th quarter.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 9, 2010 8:23 PM PDT reply actions  

I don’t agree at all.

Why would you throw when you can just run the clock out ?

by Michael White on Sep 9, 2010 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s all about the win. Take it and run.

by Alex41592 on Sep 9, 2010 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

?

So they should be trying to score?

They are winning dude. It doesn’t matter by how many.

by keithc13 on Sep 9, 2010 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s crap, just make the game 2 minutes shorter if you’re going to do that.

Then again, I’m the kind of guy who would keep passing when up by it doesn’t even matter how many points. I think the way football works for some things are just dumb.

I know it’s not good strategy to not run out the clock, but I don’t see why running out the clock would be so easily defended. Whatever I guess.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 9, 2010 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

What?

Dude thats part of the damn game, and if they other team can’t stop them they don’t deserve to win. I can’t believe you are actually saying this.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 9, 2010 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Take it a little more personally, you might feel better.

Is it supposed to make the other team feel less crappy so you don’t score on them again? Because I’d feel worse just getting knelt on. I played football in high school and respected the teams that never let up even if they were kicking the absolute shit out of us instead of just wasting time.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 9, 2010 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

You want them to put it in the air or something?

If they throw it, they risk interceptions or strip sacks, or the clock running out and the other team getting the ball back. I don’t know why you think I’m taking it personally it I just don’t get your position at all.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 9, 2010 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Your reaction was a little over the top, all I’m saying.

I’m not saying go insane and Brett Favre the place up with risky passes, but personally I would rather see some passing and less game time wasting late in the game. I realize it’s my opinion and nearly everyone else feels differently, good thing that’s why it’s an opinion.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 9, 2010 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would be shocked if “nearly” was true on this subject.

by keithc13 on Sep 9, 2010 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah you're right

It’s about 50-50 :P

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 9, 2010 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

The British booed when the Giants kneeled at the end of their game a few years ago at Wembley and the announcers mocked the fans for not knowing that is normal.

by Michael White on Sep 9, 2010 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thats funny

since its 10x worse in soccer.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 9, 2010 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

This whole argument seems like it’s just a matter of “what’s more fun as a neutral spectator” versus “what’s the best way to win”. So whatevs, yo.

Wait a minute... Statue of Liberty... that was our planet!

by MR.F. on Sep 9, 2010 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't deny that one bit

It certainly does make for better strategy, just makes for something amazingly worse to watch IMO.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 9, 2010 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think you are discounting the effects

of those 2 minutes on the rest of the game strategy wise.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 9, 2010 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love when teams have the ball with 2 minutes left when they are down

That’s the most exciting time of the entire game, but when a team is up 1 score while the other team has no TO left it’s just, great, this is shit.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 9, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which is the fault of the team who blew

all of their timeouts. Thats part of the game, and that team did a poor job at it.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 9, 2010 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you want to get rid of running out the clock

get rid of the clock! Mark the game length by something not clock-related like baseball does. How many offensive plays in an average NFL game these days? 120-130? 60 offensive plays ends the first half, 120 offensive plays ends the game. I suppose you can run out the game is the number of plays left is less than the number of downs you have left to make a first down, but it would go a lot faster at least.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 9, 2010 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

If there was a system that could work I’d be all for it. The problem is I just can’t see a system like that ever even theoretically working.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 9, 2010 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like the soccer clock

You can plan your day around it. It just doesn’t stop!

by Cool Dudes on Sep 9, 2010 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is seriously the easiest thing in the world

If the other team doesn’t get the ball back, they cannot win. It’s really that simple.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 9, 2010 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

You do it so Tom Brady get Theismanned in a meaningless play.

by regfairfield on Sep 9, 2010 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like how Drew Brees’ career ended in San Diego

by Michael White on Sep 9, 2010 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Your position makes no sense.

In that case, the last 2 minutes of the game shortened by 2 minutes, will operate the exact same way.

by Michael White on Sep 9, 2010 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Without any of the drama of the defense

actually trying to make a stop, and take most of the strategy out of timeouts.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 9, 2010 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes that’s how it would work out, but that shorten the game comment was never meant to actually be taken seriously. Once the clock gets down to about 5 minutes or so, and if the winning team is up by 1 score, they do everything they can without actually playing to wind time off the clock, it’s the most god damn annoying thing.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 9, 2010 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

5 minutes left is an eternity

The other team can put up a good 10 points in 5 minutes if they have saved their timeouts. Its not like they don’t have to play to actually run out the clock, unless there is like 40 seconds left or the other team has wasted their timeouts.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 9, 2010 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

So basically we should just play the college football OT session for an hour and the team that has the most

points wins? Clock running the whole time like soccer?

by keithc13 on Sep 9, 2010 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who said anything about overtime?

My post that you responded to literally has nothing to do with what you said.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 9, 2010 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

What I said*

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 9, 2010 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

you are saying that clock management should not play at all into coaches decisions concerning how they call a game. Clock management has no bearing in OT in the college game.

That was the analogy that fit the way you wish the game was played.

by keithc13 on Sep 9, 2010 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude, I want to see 45-44 games too.

But Coaches get canned when they don’t win.

They don’t give a fuck what the public wants to see.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W42iiCcFbxE&p=0647CA89802E589D&playnext=1&index=39

by keithc13 on Sep 9, 2010 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m the public, and I just want my team to win. I don’t give a fuck about “pussing out”

by Michael White on Sep 9, 2010 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whatever, I’m not advocating boycotting the league or telling them to change, I’m just saying it’s fucking annoying.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 9, 2010 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are too young too remember

Joe Pisarcik. (Skip to the 30 second mark to avoid the lame intro.)

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 9, 2010 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now that’s enjoyable

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 9, 2010 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not for Giants fans

it wasn’t.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 9, 2010 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

At least it helped usher in the Bill Parcells era.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 9, 2010 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did Parcells run the Dolphins draft when they got Pat White?

by keithc13 on Sep 9, 2010 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

which in turn ushered in Bill Belichick.
No Belichick, no Pats dynasty
No tuck rule, the Raiders win the Super Bowl with Gruden, Al Davis dies while celebrating, Gruden stays, and the Raider franchise is a non-joke.

Fuck Herman Edwards! :)

Then again, it spawned Charlie Weis, and that was awesome.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 9, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just hope someone noticed

that Herm Edwards played to win that game.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 9, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

you play to win the game

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Sep 9, 2010 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

someone posted the clip

Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?

by shaqfor3 on Sep 9, 2010 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am confused as to why the Saints are wearing white at home.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 9, 2010 8:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Because they are doing a show with the Village People after the game.

They are the Navy.

by keithc13 on Sep 9, 2010 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Makes more sense than IV “Mike Martz” Down’s clock management strategy :)

by Eric Stephen on Sep 9, 2010 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh 4 Down.

How we love thee…..

:)

by keithc13 on Sep 9, 2010 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t care what anyone says, play the whole game, don’t puss out.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 9, 2010 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha!

Fighting a losing battle 4 Down

by keithc13 on Sep 9, 2010 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

You seem like someone who would use a driver on a short par 3, just to not puss out. Have you by chance met my brother Greg? :)

by Eric Stephen on Sep 9, 2010 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t golf so that’s lost on me.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 9, 2010 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t worry, it was more a shot at Greg :)

by Eric Stephen on Sep 9, 2010 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know what you mean.

When I’m losing in Madden and the other guy runs the clock out it is really annoying (especially when the quarters are only 5 minutes).

by Jesse S. on Sep 9, 2010 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

Though that wasn’t why I started this, that IS QUITE annoying. Those freaking bastards, hahah.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 9, 2010 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rec’d for many reasons!

by Eric Stephen on Sep 9, 2010 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Holy Crap

It took a second reading to get it.

rec’d

by keithc13 on Sep 9, 2010 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just have to say it

LOL Favre

"I still love my ex-wife, but only when we're not talking"

by angelofdeath on Sep 9, 2010 8:25 PM PDT reply actions  

OK

Let me know when football is over.

When does the baseball season start again.

by Cool Dudes on Sep 9, 2010 8:27 PM PDT reply actions  

See you when pitchers and catchers report February 15th, 2011!

by Alex41592 on Sep 9, 2010 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not for awhile =/

Wait a minute... Statue of Liberty... that was our planet!

by MR.F. on Sep 9, 2010 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn it

Now the Niners have to face these Saints… Well at least it’s at Candlestick…

"I still love my ex-wife, but only when we're not talking"

by angelofdeath on Sep 9, 2010 8:28 PM PDT reply actions  

That’s going to be a heck of a test.

by Alex41592 on Sep 9, 2010 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have faith in Nate Davis

Nate Davis is the future… Oh wait…

"I still love my ex-wife, but only when we're not talking"

by angelofdeath on Sep 9, 2010 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whoops! Never fear Troy Smith to the rescue!

by Alex41592 on Sep 9, 2010 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL Smiths

Alex, Justin, Reggie, now Troy… Niners now have two number 1 picks and a Heisman trophy winner as their QB’s…

"I still love my ex-wife, but only when we're not talking"

by angelofdeath on Sep 9, 2010 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

When David Carr thinks you ahve a bad work ethic

you must really suck.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 9, 2010 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is Carr considered lazy?

by Michael White on Sep 9, 2010 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

he never really put in that extra effort.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 9, 2010 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's funny

I just thought he threw laying on his back a lot in Houston… I could be wrong

"I still love my ex-wife, but only when we're not talking"

by angelofdeath on Sep 9, 2010 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

but keep in mind the year after he left, with almost the exact same offensive line, sacks went down a ton. He wasn’t very good at getting rid of the ball quick enough.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 9, 2010 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like the Niners D.

have to wonder about their ability to score.

by keithc13 on Sep 9, 2010 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Patrick Willis will solve that

He’ll beat the shit out of Alex Smith real good if he doesn’t progress…

"I still love my ex-wife, but only when we're not talking"

by angelofdeath on Sep 9, 2010 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’d make me work harder.

Willis is a freakin man.

by keithc13 on Sep 9, 2010 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

THIS.IS.JUST.GREAT.

by DodgerSF on Sep 9, 2010 8:34 PM PDT reply actions  

What is?

Wait a minute... Statue of Liberty... that was our planet!

by MR.F. on Sep 9, 2010 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Football season

"I still love my ex-wife, but only when we're not talking"

by angelofdeath on Sep 9, 2010 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

LMFAO.

And I’ve never used that before.

by Michael White on Sep 9, 2010 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve never said “LMFAO” before.

I literally busted up when reading that.

by Michael White on Sep 9, 2010 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I enjoy your answers best.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 9, 2010 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

You should buy her a fossil watch

/GTL

by Michael White on Sep 9, 2010 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great like Lindsey’s smile last night?

Wait a minute... Statue of Liberty... that was our planet!

by MR.F. on Sep 9, 2010 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m listening to another Giants hit a homerun.

by DodgerSF on Sep 9, 2010 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

D’oh =(

Wait a minute... Statue of Liberty... that was our planet!

by MR.F. on Sep 9, 2010 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Off the top of the Western Metal Supply company building.

by Alex41592 on Sep 9, 2010 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Must be nice

to root for a team that displays light-tower power.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 9, 2010 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder if the Giants resign Burrell?
His resurgence has probably made him a 2/16 player at least.

by Joey Joe on Sep 9, 2010 8:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Didn’t he get 2/$8 two years ago when he was younger and coming off an even better year?

by Michael White on Sep 9, 2010 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think he got a 2 year 16 million dollar deal from the Rays 2 years ago, not just 8 mill. I thought you might have been saying 2 years for 8 mill a year, but I doubt Joey Joe was saying 2 years for 16 mill a year, so I went with the first thing I said here.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 9, 2010 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup, it was 2 for 16.

by Michael White on Sep 9, 2010 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

If I say thing after thing eventually I’ll get one of em right ;)

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 9, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope so. One less guy I don’t want the Dodgers to have to worry about signing.

by keithc13 on Sep 9, 2010 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m hoping the Dodgers sign Adam Dunn. But that’s just wishful thinking.

by Michael Kieser on Sep 9, 2010 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

54 vs. 18

NFL contract reporting is a joke. The emphasis should be on the guaranteed money.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 9, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bigger number moves eyeballs.

Its the same thing in baseball, especially with deferred money.

by Tripon on Sep 9, 2010 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

But at least the deferred is still getting paid.

You can report it at the present value I guess.

by Michael White on Sep 9, 2010 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not even close to baseball

The only thing reasonably close would be including someone’s option year as part of the total in baseball, which is never done.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 9, 2010 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Most of these long contracts are actually structured to be termanatible after 3 or 4 years.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 9, 2010 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember the Dodgers used to donate a computer to Muir High School with every Dave Roberts stolen base.

by Michael White on Sep 9, 2010 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember they did that with Brett Butler one year.

Brett Butler got cancer that year.

Not many computers were donated.

by regfairfield on Sep 9, 2010 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

that is super sad.

by DodgerSF on Sep 9, 2010 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tonight's game was easy money

Hope Torre lets us know in advance the next time he trots out that kind of lineup again.

by Xeifrank on Sep 9, 2010 9:13 PM PDT reply actions  

He did say last night

that Kemp and Furcal would sit, and Oeltjen would play CF. The Mitchell/Blake substitution wasn’t announced ahead of time.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 9, 2010 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right. Nice knowing that ahead of the masses. Another AAA lineup for tomorrow? :)

by Xeifrank on Sep 9, 2010 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lindsey should be starting

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 9, 2010 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

in LF for Pods? or…

by Xeifrank on Sep 9, 2010 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Saturday I believe...

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 9, 2010 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

well Happ is going tomorrow

he’s a lefty

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 9, 2010 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Per Tony Jackson:

Dodgers manager Joe Torre said Lindsey will get his first major league start on Saturday night, when Torre plans to rest lefty-hitting first baseman James Loney against Astros left-hander Wandy Rodriguez. Loney is 2-for-13 against him.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 10, 2010 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lindsey to play 1B?

by Xeifrank on Sep 10, 2010 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Since there’s no DH in the NL, I’ll go with yes :)

by Eric Stephen on Sep 10, 2010 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

hehe – I always thought he was an OFer for some reason.

by Xeifrank on Sep 10, 2010 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

He did

and you mean the one that scored 2 more runs than they averaged the previous three games with the regulars? ;-)

It’s apparently inconsequential who the Dodgers trot out there these days. Unless they trot out the corpses of their 1955 WS team. Nah, be about the same.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 9, 2010 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

In case anyone was wondering

I was going over the games I have been to this year and last, and as of right now I am tied for my record of most Dodger games in one year, with 18.

Last year, the Dodgers were 11-7 (7-1 as a fan, 4-6 in the box)
This year, the Dodgers are 10-8 (1-1 as a fan, 9-7 in the box)

Could have up to 6 more games this year, to blow away my personal record (and come up to like 1/5 of Delias Man). I need to go back and look at my old ticket stubs; I think there were a few years in SD when I say 20-ish games in total.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 9, 2010 9:24 PM PDT reply actions  

I’ve gone to a career low 1 game (since the age of 5), and none at home. Fortunately I haven’t missed anything.

by oshea2002 on Sep 9, 2010 10:30 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Looks like I didn't miss anything in the game :-/

While the Dodgers were sucking their way to another loss, I was playing soccer just north of where a gas line blew up into a giant fireball. And then not enough of our players made it so we had to forfeit and play a scrimmage. Wheee! All that was still more fun than watching the Dodgers, though. Sort of.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 9, 2010 9:31 PM PDT reply actions  

oh no, everyone ok?

by DodgerSF on Sep 9, 2010 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the fire was in the game chat. We didn’t know you were nearby. Awful story.

by Xeifrank on Sep 9, 2010 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah we were okay just a little freaked out

could see the plume of smoke. the referee freaked us out more by wrongly saying that a small plane had crashed. which was a false rumor. but still freaky.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 9, 2010 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not enough kids got computers tonight =(

Wait a minute... Statue of Liberty... that was our planet!

by MR.F. on Sep 9, 2010 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice Summary on why MLB is party to blame with the wonderful McCourts

Article from Howard Bryant of ESPN, it rehashes some of what was in the Times, but has important references to the responsibility Selig has for the Dodger sale. He also brings up the 60-40 issue, which to me is very important once the owner of the Dodgers whoever that is puts things together.

http://es.pn/cmC9DC

by wineracquet on Sep 9, 2010 10:27 PM PDT reply actions  

PART?

They are hugely responsible, they knew their financials and let them do it.

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 9, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh

party, carry on then

Have you ever tried just turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

by nolander on Sep 9, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pardon my spelling

I feel like you that MLB and especially Bud are 80% responsible for the McCourts, there is some reporting that suggests Eli Broad never stepped up in time even though he had more real dollars. Bryant is kinder than you and I would be, but does point out how Bud gets what he wants. Wish he knew what he wanted in Oakland.

Wish we could party again…like 1988 or even 2008

by wineracquet on Sep 9, 2010 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

no mention of a key point

which I think I read on BTF. Selig doesnt want a strong/rich owner in LA because another big market team will inflate players salaries if they go all Yankees on everyone and of course, that cant happen.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 10, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think that’s true.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 10, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

I saw that on MLB Network

Mitch Williams tore into Nick Masset by not looking at 3rd first…

"I still love my ex-wife, but only when we're not talking"

by angelofdeath on Sep 9, 2010 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was outstanding. Best hour of TV in the history of TV of all time TV viewing. Is everyone on Team Sammi or team J-Woww?

@soyboquense

by delias man on Sep 10, 2010 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sammi. For all JWoww’s bluster, Sammi is the one who landed the punches.

Are we impressed with Vinny? He’s now smushed 2 of the 4 girls in the house. For someone like Vinny, he has to consider that a major success.

by Michael White on Sep 10, 2010 7:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but Sammi is the dumbass still with Ronnie. Although the note was a terrible idea, im with JWoww.

About Vinny… not impressed with getting 2/4 in the house because they are not that impressive. Was impressed with the one he brought home, although we never really got a really good look at her.

Love the Sitch nowhere to be seen during fights.

@soyboquense

by delias man on Sep 10, 2010 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

JWoww only lost because she got held back by the most roided man in the house.

by regfairfield on Sep 10, 2010 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

As Vin would say, live by the gorilla juice head, die by the gorilla juice head.. or something like that.

by Michael White on Sep 10, 2010 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

They should DFA Ronnie

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/reversestandings/

by G.Scott on Sep 10, 2010 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Peter Gammons tweeted

the following: Three Gms insist D’Backs- Kevin Towers deal is set, but “process” has to be completed before it’s offiicial

So hopefully that means Logan White is staying w/ us.

by arbfuldodger on Sep 10, 2010 3:02 AM PDT reply actions  

That’s good news. Thanks for passing it along.

by kinbote on Sep 10, 2010 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Time for, Would You Rather?!

Would you rather keep Logan White if it means having Ned Colletti, or Kevin Towers and whoever he gets as Scouting Director but lose Logan White.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/reversestandings/

by G.Scott on Sep 10, 2010 7:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Incest is best in the NL West!

@soyboquense

by delias man on Sep 10, 2010 7:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Your theme music this morning

Tom Petty, “Free Fallin’”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGV-NoJ_jgU

"There’s no reason I can give you that makes sense. A lot of what I do is a feel thing."

by Little Blue Bicycle on Sep 10, 2010 6:03 AM PDT reply actions  

on the plus side, we’re now in line for the 14th pick in a loaded draft. If we had to suck, I’m glad it was this year and not last.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/reversestandings/

by G.Scott on Sep 10, 2010 7:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

The DBacks are primed to have a very good (very expensive) draft

RIght now they would get the #5 and #7 picks and I don’t think that’s changing much. They would have to lose 4 more games than the Pirates, Orioles, Mariners and Indians over the rest of the season to get the #2 pick though and could easily end up with the 4th pick.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/reversestandings/

by G.Scott on Sep 10, 2010 7:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I somehow picture the theme music for this team being a terrible Joe Cocker cover song being lip synced by Larry Bowa.

by kinbote on Sep 10, 2010 7:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Unbelievable

I’m just now grasping the extent of the San Bruno explosion. Condolences to anyone affected.

by kinbote on Sep 10, 2010 7:52 AM PDT reply actions  

Did they ever figure out what happened?

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/reversestandings/

by G.Scott on Sep 10, 2010 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Gas line explosion from what I gather.

by kinbote on Sep 10, 2010 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

whats more pathetic?

The underacheiving dodgers season or mccourts embarrassing mud throwing public divorce ?

by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Sep 10, 2010 7:58 AM PDT reply actions  

Yes.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/reversestandings/

by G.Scott on Sep 10, 2010 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tie goes to the, um, I don’t know.

They are both pathetic. And they were both avoidable.

by KellyStephen on Sep 10, 2010 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

How was avoiding the underacheiving season possible?

As others have mentioned, none of us had huge complaints going into the season? I thought the team was built to be competitive. Who saw Ethier, Kemp and the bullpen falling off a cliff like they did?

by Michael White on Sep 10, 2010 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not sure the season was avoidable. You can’t do much about injuries and it’s hard when building a team to assume your two best hitters will be hurt and the 3rd and 4th best will suck.

Only thing avoidable about the season was Charlie Haeger.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/reversestandings/

by G.Scott on Sep 10, 2010 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ortizii were also extremely avoidable.

@soyboquense

by delias man on Sep 10, 2010 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

agreed. The whole general 5th starter thing. Also, we could have avoided the Monasterios thing by letting McDonald do the exact same thing.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/reversestandings/

by G.Scott on Sep 10, 2010 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Giving

JMac 1/10 the opportunity (7 2/3 IP vs. 78 1/3 IP) that Carlos Monestarios got was also avoidable.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 10, 2010 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Course, i wonder was the difference between having a guy like Lilly all year replacing all those starts by Monk, haeger, Ely, Ortizii, et al (even though Ely had about half his starts be good) would have netted us a few more wins. Then again, we still wouldn’t have had the offsense to compete, so it’s probably best that we finish 10 games back instead of 2 or 3.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/reversestandings/

by G.Scott on Sep 10, 2010 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

two best hitters will be hurt

Manny and Ethier.

the 3rd and 4th best will suck
Kemp and ?. Loney? Blake? And Furcal being hurt and, as the leadoff hitter, hopefully being the 4th or so best hitter.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 10, 2010 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's probably a trivial argument

but I consider Furcal and Manny our best hitters (the hurt ones) and Kemp and Ethier our 3rd/4th best hitters (underperforming).

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/reversestandings/

by G.Scott on Sep 10, 2010 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

This year certainly Furcal has been the Dodgers’ best hitter (well, second behind Manny) but it’s really an outlier season for him, and going into the season he was fourth, at best.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 10, 2010 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Can’t deny that.

Ok so: You can’t do much about injuries and it’s hard when building a team to assume your two best and fourth best hitters will be hurt and the 3rd and 4th second and third best will suck.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/reversestandings/

by G.Scott on Sep 10, 2010 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Furcal being injured

leads to the OF being acquired in Manny’s absence being a “leadoff type OF”.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 10, 2010 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

But if Manny isn’t also hurt at the same time, you’re probably looking at a lineup with Carroll or Kemp hitting leadoff and Podsednik gets traded elsewhere. It’s hard to argue injuries because everyone has them, but outside of the Red Sox (that I know of anyway) we’ve been pretty unlucky.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/reversestandings/

by G.Scott on Sep 10, 2010 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

for what its worth

I assume the powers that be knew the post-steroid Manny would not replicate the production of the steroid using Manny. Was pretty obvious last year the difference it made.

by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Sep 10, 2010 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Post-steroid Manny was still the best hitter on the team, which the powers that be also knew.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 10, 2010 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Post-steriod Manny - 2009-2010 as a Dodger

.297 / .413 / .524 / .937, 153 OPS+

I’ll take that bat.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 10, 2010 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hate hall of famers.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/reversestandings/

by G.Scott on Sep 10, 2010 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Are home runs all that important when your OPS is .937?

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/reversestandings/

by G.Scott on Sep 10, 2010 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Games played is of course a valid point, but you were arguing that they should know he would struggle, which he didn’t. They couldn’t have known he’d play about 65 games out of 120.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/reversestandings/

by G.Scott on Sep 10, 2010 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Whether or not he could stay healthy

was a risk the day he signed the 2-year contract to stay in LA. There were lots of folks who questioned whether or not he could hold up, our own Phil Gurnee being one of them.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 10, 2010 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

But, but we still have 0.006% chance of winning the division.

by Xeifrank on Sep 10, 2010 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

That seems a little high ;)

by kinbote on Sep 10, 2010 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Imagine if he got the $120MM/6 year deal Boras said he should get.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/reversestandings/

by G.Scott on Sep 10, 2010 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

But they also expected Ethier, Kemp, Loney, to improve, probably hoped Martin could recover but expected him to stay the same, expected Blake to decline some, and Manny to be a name and a good 5th hitter.

I’m sure they knew certain guys would regress, but it’s hard to predict injuries. Even if they did think Manny would spend considerable time on the DL, they should have done better than to back him up with Garret Anderson.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/reversestandings/

by G.Scott on Sep 10, 2010 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree on the season being unavoidable

Manny gave us nothing, and Kemp and Ethier stunk. So did Sherrill and Tron. I’m all for running Torre and his crew out of here, but there was nothing they could have done with this team.

by oshea2002 on Sep 10, 2010 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

They could have handled the team like adults and not pissed off teenager style. Baseball mistakes are made, it happens, you hope they don’t happen too often, we move on. But the way this team was egomaniacally handled the second they started to struggle was my major problem.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/reversestandings/

by G.Scott on Sep 10, 2010 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

But the way this team was egomaniacally handled the second they started to struggle was my major problem.

I don’t know what this means.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 10, 2010 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s jibberish.

Mostly, the handling of Matt Kemp all year stands out. First, Joe saying he would have benched him for a third game had Matt not come and talk to him. Granted, some of this has been prolongues publicly by Dave Stewart, but the fact that Kemp has said nothing (nothing I recall anyway) and these guys have, I find it all very childish.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/reversestandings/

by G.Scott on Sep 10, 2010 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

kemp is a primadonna/pussy

Jeff Kent called him on it years back.. He is what he is. We either have to live and deal with it/him. Or trade him. He obviously wont or cant change. Leaking his pussy-ness to the media is a very childish way to try and make him change

by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Sep 10, 2010 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I love that avatar

And your comment here may be very true.

@soyboquense

by delias man on Sep 10, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well said

You’re not going to “shame” him into growing up. Either out him and trade him, or shut up about and deal with it. I do think our next staff will likely be more successful in dealing with him.

by oshea2002 on Sep 10, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can deal with a childish player as long as he hits .297/.352/.490 with 26 bombs a year. What i can’t deal with is a childish coaching staff whose job it is to manage people and personalities.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/reversestandings/

by G.Scott on Sep 10, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Said player though

is not putting up numbers anywhere near that good though.

by oshea2002 on Sep 10, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

those were his numbers last year, and I assume he was the same person. A down year does not a career make.

I fully expect him to go in the 5th round in fantasy drafts next year and put up top 10 roto numbers.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/reversestandings/

by G.Scott on Sep 10, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hope so. I’m just not absolving Kemp of anything either.

by oshea2002 on Sep 10, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was looking something up regarding Chin-lung Hu

since he has appeared in 3 games without a PA yet this year, and I wanted to find the Dodger record (at least since 1920, as far as B-R / Retrosheet goes back) for most consecutive games to start a season without a PA. I eliminated games as pitcher because otherwise a shitload of relievers would dominate the list.

However, something interesting came up: pitcher Carl Erskine appeared as a pinch runner 11 times in 1955.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 10, 2010 9:04 AM PDT reply actions  

Didn’t jeff Weaver pinch run a ton in his career? For some reason him pinch running on the Cardinals stands out.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/reversestandings/

by G.Scott on Sep 10, 2010 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Weaver has PR 7 times and PH twice in his career (once each with StL)

by Eric Stephen on Sep 10, 2010 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

It seems rare for any pitcher to do anything offensively on a day they aren’t pitching, but for Erskine to pinch run 11 times in one year is crazy.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/reversestandings/

by G.Scott on Sep 10, 2010 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pitcher Dan Bankhead also did so 9 times in 1951, all in a six-week period before May

by Eric Stephen on Sep 10, 2010 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder what changed. Do pinch run 9 times in the first 6 weeks, then not again for the rest of the year, either he told Chuck Dressen to stick it or he got released in some fashion.

What I did notice, is it says he played for the Dodgers in 1947. As a black ballplayer, he debuted the same year as Jackie but I’ve never heard of him until now. Just goes to show even more how Jackie was the right choice to be first.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/reversestandings/

by G.Scott on Sep 10, 2010 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dan Bankhead was the first African-American pitcher to play in the majors

after Jackie broke the color line.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 10, 2010 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bankhead in 1951

also pitched in the minors (Montreal) so who knows exactly when he was up and down.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 10, 2010 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not going to argue with anything done by the 1955 Brooklyn Dodgers!

Erskine was 28 that season. Must have had a rep with the coaches as a good baserunner.

Four times he PRed for PH Don Newcombe, once after he was HBP, which might have scared a few folks.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 10, 2010 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

That is back when men were men. So I have been told.

@soyboquense

by delias man on Sep 10, 2010 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also, I think Erksine was so cool that even Mike White would allow a one-time accent exception for “Oiskine” here. :0

by Eric Stephen on Sep 10, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

From

mlb.com

The Dodgers used five straight pinch-hitters in the eighth inning on Wednesday, and they didn’t score that inning or any other inning in the 4-0 loss at San Diego.

“Somebody told me we were one away or tied the [Major League] record,” Dodgers manager Joe Torre said. "I think [Dodgers bench coach Bob] Schaefer told me. I said, ‘You should have told me.’ We would have done that.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 10, 2010 9:06 AM PDT reply actions  

Awesome. I wish I would have caught that last night.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 10, 2010 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hope he was joking.

@soyboquense

by delias man on Sep 10, 2010 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's wrong though

Theriot started the game and leadoff the 8th.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 10, 2010 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Gibbons ended the 7th as PH for Mitchell
Theriot started the 8th (he started the game at 2B)
Kemp PH for Oeltjen
Blake PH for Ellis to end the 8th
Furcal PH for Jansen to start the 9th

by Eric Stephen on Sep 10, 2010 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh man

I can’t read. I was thinking last night’s game.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 10, 2010 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

The sequence

Jay Gibbons pinch hits for Russ Mitchell (1B) batting 7th
Trent Oeltjen pinch hits for Rod Barajas © batting 8th
James Loney pinch hits for Ramon Troncoso (P) batting 9th
John Lindsey pinch hits for Scott Podsednik (LF) batting 1st
Andre Ethier pinch hits for John Lindsey batting 1st

I don’t know Hu would have PH for Theriot leading off the 9th against Gregerson.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 10, 2010 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dodger Awards

MVP: ?
Cy Young: Kershaw
Gold Glove: ?
Silver Slugger: ???
Rookie of the Year: Jansen

You guys can fill in the rest.

by silverwidow on Sep 10, 2010 9:28 AM PDT reply actions  

Get Offa My Lawn Award

Larry Bowa

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 10, 2010 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

MVP: Clayton Kershaw
Cy Young: Clayton Kershaw
Gold Glove: Russell Martin
Silver Slugger: Andre Ethier
Rookie of the Year: John Ely
Heart and Hustle: Matt Kemp
Roberto Clemente: Larry Bowa

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/reversestandings/

by G.Scott on Sep 10, 2010 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

MVP Kuo
GG Loney
SS Kemo
Agree with rest

@soyboquense

by delias man on Sep 10, 2010 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

MVP: Kershaw
Cy Young: Kershaw (but it’s close for Kuroda)
Gold Glove: Loney
Silver Slugger: Furcal
ROY: Ely

by Michael White on Sep 10, 2010 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Great list. My only real disagreement is Ely b/c he was so terrible at the end. But you could also argue that his hot streak was good enough to win it. It’s tough, but I’m going with our future closer.

by silverwidow on Sep 10, 2010 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

I look for Oeltjen to make a late run.

by kinbote on Sep 10, 2010 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m still looking for the first hit from the callups.

by Michael White on Sep 10, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d be curious to know if this current group of call-ups is as bad as the norm. It’s rather sad that there isn’t any young hot-shot that is getting experience for next year. I’d rather see DeJesus, Hoffman, Paul, Trayvon, Lindblom than the current group. They may be an inspiring story, but . . .

by kinbote on Sep 10, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

But Paul and Trayvon are hurt, Lindblom needs a break, DeJesus is just now getting back into the swing of things, and we apparently hate Hoffman now.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/reversestandings/

by G.Scott on Sep 10, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hoffmann hit

.310 / .369 / .431 / .800 for Albuquerque which is not all that impressive. 43 BB / 98 K (about 2.3 / 1) in 608 PA.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 10, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah he seemed like org. depth.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/reversestandings/

by G.Scott on Sep 10, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of ABQ, why play in such a ridiculous hitters park? Why not try to find something closer to what Dodger Stadium plays as to get a better look at how both your pitchers and hitters will perform. Rather than dismissing poor pitching performances and great offensive ones as ABQ-induced.

By having what should be our best minor leaguers playing there, it’s very difficult to gain any actual information about them. The only thing you really gain is when a pitcher performs well there or if a hitter can’t hit there.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/reversestandings/

by G.Scott on Sep 10, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good luck finding that in the PCL

by Eric Stephen on Sep 10, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is the whole league like ABQ?

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/reversestandings/

by G.Scott on Sep 10, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

One list of park factors for the PCL

found here.

Parks are ranked from most offensive to least offensive. The first number is the average park factor from 2007 to 2009. In parenthesis is the year-by-year data, in the order of (2009, 2008, 2007).
1. Albuquerque                      1.20 (1.21, 1.18, 1.20)
2. Reno 1.18 (1.18 – 2009 was first year)
3. Colorado Springs 1.12 (1.13, 1.08, 1.15)
4. Salt Lake 1.07 (1.10, 1.05, 1.06)
5. Las Vegas 1.06 (1.01, 1.11, 1.05)
6. Iowa 0.99 (0.95, 0.97, 1.06)
7. Omaha 0.99 (0.92, 1.04, 1.01)
8. Fresno 0.98 (0.99, 1.00, 0.95)
9. Oklahoma City 0.98 (0.96, 1.02, 0.95)
10. Round Rock 0.98 (1.02, 0.94, 0.97)
11. Tacoma 0.97 (1.02, 0.98, 0.90)
12. Nashville 0.95 (0.98, 0.93, 0.94)
13. Memphis 0.95 (0.91, 0.99, 0.94)
14. New Orleans 0.92 (0.92, 0.87, 0.97)
15. Portland 0.92 (0.88, 0.92, 0.95)
16. Sacramento 0.92 (0.88, 0.96, 0.91)
Draw your own conclusions and your own cutoff line, but mine is that 11 stadia are from extreme hitter’s park to neutral-ish, and five are pitcher’s parks.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 10, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Let’s move the team to Bakersfield so we can have a rivalry with the Fresno Grizzlies (Giants) then in a coup de gras take over their stadium.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/reversestandings/

by G.Scott on Sep 10, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

coup de grace, except, you know, without much grace.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/reversestandings/

by G.Scott on Sep 10, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Coup de gras might be more interesting – knock (or blow) of fat.

by berkowit28 on Sep 10, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bakersfield is a class-A town

For good reason, I imagine.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 10, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

New Orleans is an extreme pitcher's park, I believe

All 30 MLB teams need a AAA affiliate. The Dodgers are competing with all of them for those affiliations. There are 16 teams in the PCL and 14 in the International League, so it is a zero-sum game. Plus the Dodgers prefer to have the team somewhat close by – Albuquerque is one-time zone away and Las Vegas is the only other AAA city they’ve been in in quite some time, the early-to-mid 1970s.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 10, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

You have to remember that especially in AAA

its as much a business as it is a place for you minor league players to play, that is why you see players like Lindsay there. Abq had the third highest attendance in the PCL, (whereas soon to be defunct Portland had the worst and perhaps Las Vegas, which had a stadium no one really likes, is near the bottom of attendance too). And now that they have their ST site in Arizona, they can have their players rehab there and check in with them on a much more frequent basis.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 10, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am not sure why they moved from Jacksonville to

Tennessee, I suppose it was a little closer, I do think they like having one of their A league teams just down the street, so to speak, it makes rehab assignments so much easier.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 10, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just from pictures I have seen the Tenn facilities looked much nicer.

@soyboquense

by delias man on Sep 10, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Couldn’t they use a humidor, like Colorado?

by OB12 on Sep 10, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I did not realize he was up in the bigs before, and he sucks. That really turned me off to last night’s game when I saw this guy was playing.

@soyboquense

by delias man on Sep 10, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Silver Slugger is based on HR’s I think. Not sure if I would put Furcal there.

@soyboquense

by delias man on Sep 10, 2010 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

if that’s true, then Furcal would not be the right choice and I’d probably have to go with Ethier since he’s still managed a solid enough season altogether.

If it’s for the best hitter, Furcal would hold. He has the best wOBA on the team other than Manny.

wOBA:
Furcal: .379
Ethier: .364
Carroll: .329
Blake: .326
Loney: .319
Kemp: .318 (same as what DeWitt did in LAD)

by Michael White on Sep 10, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d give it to Ethier just because of playing time. It’s tough to give Furcal SS, or GG, when he missed nearly 60 games.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 10, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

vacate it.

http://www.dingersblog.com

by dingers on Sep 10, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s the best option; although I gave it to 1.000 OBP Jansen :)

by Eric Stephen on Sep 10, 2010 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

the dh should be made legal in the nl this year if only so jansen can dh every day he’s not pitching

http://www.dingersblog.com

by dingers on Sep 10, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Silver Slugger, the actual award, is just the best hitter at each position. It is subjective, of course.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 10, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

MVP: Kershaw
CYA: Kershaw
GG: want to say Furcal, but he will miss 60 games; I guess Loney (???)
SS: Jansen
ROY: Ely (79 2/3 IP > 17 2/3 IP)

by Eric Stephen on Sep 10, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

went with martin for the GG for his throwing ability and for teaching me the meaning of the R in WAR.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/reversestandings/

by G.Scott on Sep 10, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I loved AJ’s throw yesterday.

by robotmadeofnails on Sep 10, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Next year’s AAA rotation:

Ely
Monk
Elbert
NRI
NRI

by silverwidow on Sep 10, 2010 10:26 AM PDT reply actions  

That seems about right.

by OB12 on Sep 10, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

If Elbert comes back.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/reversestandings/

by G.Scott on Sep 10, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

He has been back, but just got hurt once he came back.

Mentally, he’s in. Physically, that’s another story.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 10, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ok, I missed that. I thought he was still on baseball career suicide watch. Would be great to see him come back next year, have a great two months and get brought up.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/reversestandings/

by G.Scott on Sep 10, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

What was the injury? I don’t remember hearing anything about that either.

by OB12 on Sep 10, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Shoulder soreness.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/reversestandings/

by G.Scott on Sep 10, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

OK, I hope it wasn’t too serious considering he has had shoulder problems in the past.

by OB12 on Sep 10, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just figured it was a made up injury to keep him from coming back with a few weeks left and trying to get back in game shape too quickly.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/reversestandings/

by G.Scott on Sep 10, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

He was working out in AZ; it was a legit shoulder injury.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 10, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

kinda wished it was the other way. I’m also now cynical of any injury. Too bad for Elbert, hopefully he can bounce back.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/reversestandings/

by G.Scott on Sep 10, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Six months ago

You would have predicted Withrow. :-(

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 10, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Haha, I probably would’ve predicted him in the Dodger rotation.

by silverwidow on Sep 10, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s a good thought, given that he did well starting in AA.

by OB12 on Sep 10, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Very old for AA though

by silverwidow on Sep 10, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but probably about right for AAA starting depth.

by OB12 on Sep 10, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Black Cow

Had a birthday office breakfast at the Black Cow in Montrose this morning. It was excellent.

by robotmadeofnails on Sep 10, 2010 10:51 AM PDT reply actions  

Black Cow

sounds like a first base coach, sign him up!

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/reversestandings/

by G.Scott on Sep 10, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is what I had, and it was excellent.

by robotmadeofnails on Sep 10, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

That

looks like a lotta calories. And yummy.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 10, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am sleepy and hence, the skipping lunch part.

by robotmadeofnails on Sep 10, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, have a happy birthday

tomorrow.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 10, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yep

I think I will skip lunch today, and then we may go to the Oinkster for a mini b-day dinner with my sister-in-law and her husband and my folks.

by robotmadeofnails on Sep 10, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is the Oinkster all that?

I’ve read about it, but only ate at that location way back in the day when it was Jim’s Burgers.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 10, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Was that the same Jim's?

as the one on Lincoln and Woodbury? We used to drive over there for lunch way back in high school.

by oshea2002 on Sep 10, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

No clue

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 10, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Finally went to the Oinkster the other day

pretty solid. Had the burger with greuyer (sp?) cheese.

by oshea2002 on Sep 10, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Someone told me

“overpriced, but good.”

When I was in Eagle Rock, it wasn’t filled with hipsters. Far from it.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 10, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think it is priced pretty well for what you get. I don’t know if I would say it is “all that” but it is good food at a reasonable price.

by robotmadeofnails on Sep 10, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'll have to check it out next time I'm in the area

Old stomping grounds and my brother lives nearby.

Actually maybe Eric and I should go there when he covers the Dodgers closing w/e.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 10, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is he handsome with a low IQ?

by kinbote on Sep 10, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

He probably delivers a good coup de gras.

by berkowit28 on Sep 10, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

E

30 for 30 Vegas was awful. Tried to stretch Tyson and Tupac’s thin friendship into how similar their lives were. Better director/producer would have told it better, but still not much to say. ESPN missed on this one.

@soyboquense

by delias man on Sep 10, 2010 10:56 AM PDT reply actions  

It was beyond bad

and some of the interview subjects were horrific. Plus the rappers sucked too.

by oshea2002 on Sep 10, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

From

this article:

Tyson tells the Associated Press, “He always wanted me to smoke weed with him, and I never did it, and I wish I did. That’s my biggest regret.”

Jay Leno’s joke was that Tyson biggest regret isn’t the felonies he did commit, but the misdemeanors he didn’t?

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 10, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Eric, just wanted to say

I love that the lead-off photos of of the past two nights are of unconsummated high-fives.

by DodgerSF on Sep 10, 2010 11:11 AM PDT reply actions  

Eric is just all about

unconsummation.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 10, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I might have to check my records but I believe that I have gone to less than 12 games

so far this year, which is pretty amazing considering I have a full season package.

At most, I can go to 6 more games this season but I bet it turns out to be 3 or less.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 10, 2010 11:11 AM PDT reply actions  

Not dying to see the scrubby lineups against the DBacks closing w/e?

I kid. That can actually be sorta interesting. I actually witnessed a Chin-Lung Hu HR, hit off Ubaldo! Delwyn Young hit one too.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 10, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Delwyn Young hit one too

Boy that kid can hit! – Vin

by silverwidow on Sep 10, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

he hit one off Strasburg too.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 10, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Actually

I would love to go to the game when you and Eric are there.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 10, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Check

your e-mail.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 10, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Movie

Did people here enjoy Dinner for Schmucks?

by robotmadeofnails on Sep 10, 2010 11:44 AM PDT reply actions  

It was meh. I liked Paul Rudd’s wife though.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 10, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Word. I think I will make my wife go see Inception with me tomorrow…but she will probably hate it. Maybe Toy Story 3

by robotmadeofnails on Sep 10, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Andy LaRoche since July 6:

.081/.128/.108

by silverwidow on Sep 10, 2010 11:47 AM PDT reply actions  

He’s the worst ex-Dodger on that team.

by Michael White on Sep 10, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Apparently

Los Angeles teams are where 3B prospects go to die.

by BFDC on Sep 10, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

3B historically is a hard position to fill

I was looking back at the Bill James Historical Abstract and it is arguable that the greatest 20-25 year stretch of 3B was between 1960-1985, off the top of my head you had:
Schmidt, Brett, Brooks Robinson, Eddie Mathews, Ron Santo, Paul Molitor, Ron Cey, Graig Nettles, Bill Madlock, Ken Boyer, Darrell Evans, and Sal Bando. Even Bob Horner and Wade Boggs started their careers at that end of that period.

And you had Doug DeCinces, Richie Hebner, Toby Harrah and Buddy Bell too.

But that was really the golden era of 3B and it really hasn’t been back for some time.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 10, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

One of my favorite Bill James comments

is about Schmidt, not only is he greatest 3B of all time, James said that if he could had hit .300, Schmidt might be considered the greatest player of all time.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 10, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree that 3B is a hard position to fill

Just funny with LaRoche, Wood, and McPherson in Dodgers/Angels systems over the last few years. All got so much hype and have been complete busts.

by BFDC on Sep 10, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

So is

trading almost all your 3B minor-league lottery tickets (LaRoche, Bell, DeWitt) a good idea?

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 10, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well you do wonder what the Angels could have gotten for Wood

a few years ago.

Funny thing is that you knew that Wood had contact issues but his total lack of any hitting is surprising

by bhsportsguy on Sep 10, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's the curse of Rich Donnelly

After being fired for causing The Worst Baserunning Play in a Dodger Playoff Game in the Past Ten Years, Donnelly cursed third base. “Never again shall you have a good player at that position!”

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Sep 10, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

So strong was the curse

That Ryan Church dared not even touch the bag.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Sep 10, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

So heavy was the mojo

that it turned “Sweet Larry” Bowa into the evil, angry Bowa Constrictor we have today.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Sep 10, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

False attribution!

Larry’s been angry for quite some time.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 10, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

also

caused no one to dare try to steal the base. The mojo frightened James Loney so much he stumbled trying to turn a double into a triple.

Only a truly rugged man could man this base, which is why Casey needed his beard back.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 10, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

and prevented Ethier's cycle

when he stumbled trying for his triple.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 10, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

However, he is also the Pirates’ Roberto Clemente Award nominee, which “combines a dedication to giving back to the community with outstanding skills on the baseball field.” :)

by Eric Stephen on Sep 10, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

sandssss
Darren (Oakland): Who would you pick first, Sands or Belt? Are they similar players?

John Manuel: Now that’s a tough one. My gut says Belt, but the reports we have received are more positive about Sands, who is a solid athlete as well and has more power. It’s pretty much a push right now but I tend to believe a bit more in Belt and like the lefthanded part of the equation for him

by matthewmafa on Sep 10, 2010 12:18 PM PDT reply actions  

This is funny on about 43 levels.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 10, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

agreed

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 10, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man, as soon as I read the quote

I saw there were comments beneath, and I thought, “If that’s not some joke making a guts-belt link, I’m gonna have to throw down.”

Thank you, Dave, for not making me throw down. Excellent joke.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Sep 10, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol, reminds me of a Chuck Norris-ism, that I will make Humma's

When Humma Kavula drinks to much, he doesn’t throw up, Humma throws down!!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 10, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

When Humma Kavula drinks to much,

The thing is…. how would we know?

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Sep 10, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Either you've had too much too drink

or not enough!

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 10, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

this

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 10, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

The beauty of > 15,000 comments

If you throw enough stuff at the wall, some sticks.

And I’m happy to ease the burden of the new (again) father!

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 10, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow!

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 10, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can I both

rec and flag that?

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 10, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Most Giants fans

believe Belt is their #1 prospect.

by BFDC on Sep 10, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Most belts believe

that the pandouche can suck it.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Sep 10, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Belt was drafted three times

Once out of HS, the next year from a JC, then two years later after his junior year at Texas.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 10, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are they hoping

that Belt’s next loop is the National League?

Bordering on the archaic there….

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 10, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Belt’s next loop is the National League?

Only if he buckles down.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Sep 10, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

There’s no rust in this belt conversation.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 10, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

hope it gets kicked up a notch

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 10, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does

Belt look good with the leather?

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 10, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

He improved his D

after a teammate gave him a gift: “Here’s a copy of The Fielding Bible, Belt.”

by Eric Stephen on Sep 10, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd say that all other prospects are below him

but the Marquis of Queensbury Rules say I can’t go there.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Sep 10, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Belt has an interesting way

with slumpbusters.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 10, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

If only a certain reliever were still with SF

Belt nears Merkin.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 10, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Funny that the SF Giants acquired a Belt before winning a championship.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 10, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Somewhere Belt is reading this and saying to himself

Yeah, I’ve never heard any of these before. Ever. Congratulations, Dodger fans. Clap. Clap. Clap.

The Omar Moreno of this blog

by Humma Kavula on Sep 10, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Better than growing up as Billy Smallcock, I guess.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 10, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

thing is

you know when he comes up, first hard ball he hits, is gonna be “belted” followed by much giggling from the announcers

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 10, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

The way he's hit this year

The pitchers need a few belts after facing him.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 10, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is Belt good?

Is being compared to him a good thing?

by Michael White on Sep 10, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Belt's

stats. He’s hit at three levels, K rate is 16.6% and BB/K 0.94.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 10, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was watching “1000 Ways to Die” — they had this weird story about a chick drinking 10 Monster Energy drinks in a row and her heart exploded after she got pissed off at her boss.

by silverwidow on Sep 10, 2010 12:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Wow 10 Monsters!

That is 27.5 servings of that shit… Rough way to go, but that is basically an overdose.

by BFDC on Sep 10, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

10?

she wanted to die.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 10, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ronnie Belliard, who was designated for assignment Monday, was placed on waivers by the Dodgers yesterday

by Eric Stephen on Sep 10, 2010 1:02 PM PDT reply actions  

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SS 9 Gordon $485,000
LF 23 Abreu $401,311
CF 10 Gwynn $850,000
RF 16 Ethier $10,950,000

OF/1B 33 Van Slyke $388,197
2B/3B 3 Kennedy $800,000
OF/1B 30 Sands $375,175
IF 13 DeJesus $448,992
C 18 Treanor $850,000

SP 22 Kershaw $6,000,000
SP 58 Billingsley $9,000,000
SP 29 Lilly $12,000,000
SP 44
Harang $3,000,000
SP 35 Capuano $3,000,000

CL 74
Jansen $491,000
RHP 52 Lindblom $483,000
RHP 51 Belisario $414,426
RHP 54 Guerra $488,000
RHP 28
Wright $900,000
LHP 57 Elbert $488,500
RHP 60 Coffey $1,000,000

DL 27 Kemp $10,000,000
DL 21 Rivera $4,000,000
DL 12 Sellers $481,000
DL 5 Uribe $8,000,000
DL 55 Guerrier $4,750,000
DL 14 Ellis $2,500,000
60DL 36 Hawksworth $495,000
60DL 41 De La Rosa $485,000

AA 50 Eovaldi $7,885
AAA 56 Antonini $7,869



Manny $8,087,432 deferred


Andruw $3,375,000 deferred


Pierre $3,050,000 deferred
Furcal $3,000,000 deferred
Kuroda $2,000,000 deferred
Garland $1,500,000 option buyout
Blake $1,250,000 option buyout
DFA 66 MacDougal $650,000

Totals
$115,942,869

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Current 40-man roster count: 42
(incl. De La Rosa & Hawksworth)

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Manager

Eric___ned___reporters_2011_trade_deadline_small Eric Stephen

Editors

100_1427_small Phil Gurnee

Dgy_small David Young

Hanauma_bay_small Chad Moriyama

2501_small Michael White

Raptors_small Brandon Lennox

Img_0103_small CraigMinami