MVP story in the telling if not in the facts
by Phil Gurnee on Jan 14, 2011 1:40 PM PST
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PrintIn full uniform the 78-year old 1962 MVP slowly ambled up the dugout steps making his way onto the hallowed grounds he knew better then anyone else. No one ushered in Chavez Ravine like Maury Wills did 49 year ago when he set the baseball world asunder with his record setting 104 stolen bases.
If you read any of the biographies from the Dodgers who played in 1962 one constant theme stays true from book to book. Maury Wills paid a price for those 104 stolen bases. Maury was a small man but he was built like a bull, and he needed that strength to see him through the 1962 season. Abrasion after abrasion followed him that year but he did not relent in his quest to help the Dodgers score runs, and score runs they did, putting up 842 runs.
Watching Maury hop out onto the field, I was struck how much I loved it when Dodgers from our past get to work with the Dodgers of our present and future. Nothing much was happening so I lingered close enough to Maury to over hear a conversation he started with another coach and media person. I heard him say Marichal and I was hooked.
This is the story that Maury layed out for his audience, the day before Marichal clobbered Roseboro over the head the Dodgers were facing Gaylord Perry who was setting the Dodgers down with no problem. Late in the game Maury decided he couldn't hit Perry on this day so he leaned his bat back and then swung with the idea of drawing a catchers interference and it worked. He then stole 2nd, and 3rd and scored the run they needed to win the game. The Giants were very upset with how Maury got on base and that is why Marichal was pitching inside to the Dodgers the following day when the incident happened.
That is what I heard, and while some of it may have gotten lost in the translation between the air and my old ears, I'm pretty sure I got the gist of it. When I got home I was curious to see how much of this had in fact happened because it was 45 years ago, so I hit Baseball Reference to see how much could be verified.
While the story does not quite ring true what I did uncover was a beauty of a baseball game. Gaylord Perry did not pitch on Aug 21st, he pitched on Aug 19 in relief. Maury was right that Perry was setting the team down, Perry came in the top of the 9th of 5 -3 game and hit Maury Wills with a pitch. Maury did not score, and in the bottom of the 9th Big D gave up a two run home run to ex - Dodger Tom Haller with ex - Dodger and future team home run leader Len Gabrielson on base to tie the game. Perry shut out the Dodgers from the 9th until 14th, but in the 15th inning Sweet Lou Johnson belted a two run home run as the Dodgers went on to win 8 - 5. Maury did not factor in any of the scoring after the 9th inning.
This game was full of the greatest players in Dodger / Giant history. HOF Don Drysdale matched up against HOF Warren Spahn, Perranoski matched up in relief against HOF Gaylord Perry, HOF Willie Mays, HOF Willie McCovey, HOF, and HOF Orlando Cepeda were in the impressive Giant lineup. Don Drysdale blasted a home run his sixth of the year off of Warren Spahn who hit 35 home runs as a pitcher besting Big D's mark of 29.
In today's game of baseball Joe Torre would have emptied his bullpen to fulfill the requirements of a 15 inning game. In 1962, Don Drysdale went the first eleven innings, and Ron Perranoski finished up the final four. Of course in 1965 it made no sense to pinch hit for Big D since he really was the best hitter on the team that year.
While Maury's memory may not have it right, the game he was talking about might have been the game of the year for the Dodgers, and I'm glad I overhead his conversation or I would not have had inclination to look up this game. The Dodgers would need every win that year as they only won the pennant by two games over a brilliant San Francisco Giant team on their way to their third Wold Championship as the Los Angeles Dodgers.
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Very cool
Two totally OT things:
1. Showed MLK’s “I have a dream” speech to my 8th grade students today. I challenge anyone to make it through that unmoved. So brilliant.
2. I forgot to mention “Hollyywood Shuffle” in my earlier 80s comedies comment. Reading the Dave Chappelle talk from the previous thread reminded me.
I might have missed this in the last thread but Jon has the update on why we released Pat Borders yesterday.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Humma Kavula might be pleased to see his story from a year ago linked. I love linking to old TBLA stories.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Excellent! :-)
And if I may say so, my homage to Maury dovetails nicely with this story. What, Maury’s memory is faulty? Who cares — it misses the point of Maury to take the story literally.
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 14, 2011 2:08 PM PST up reply actions
I've just now finished
reading your link. I forgot how great a job you did in writing it. For those of you who were not around last January, take a look at how great they poetry man can write when he’s not going for a joke.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I just re-read it
and it was great again. Humma also has the great comment where he cribs from Billy Wilder for “the fuzzy end of the historical lollipop”. But there is also this doozy of a comment in there:
Music to our earsI hate that song now.
from Jeff Fletcher / AOL:
Brian Sabean says Aubrey Huff will be the No. 4 hitter, and may play some OF, in addition to 1B
by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2010 10:05 AM PST reply actions
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Ouch
Just like the show, glee turned to an unwatchable, horrible mess.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 14, 2011 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
Humma just wanted to make the rest of us look bad
he succeeded.
I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain
Had totally forgotten that fact myself
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
104 bases
is a lot of bases to steal
I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain
Catchers couldn’t throw.
/bill james
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 14, 2011 2:18 PM PST up reply actions
Amazing! 88.89% clip!
Half Man….Half Amazing
MANAZING!
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
MLB 75 most spectactular defensive plays
Do we agree with their top 2? The Ozzie barehand as a Padre and Jim Edmonds’ famous backwards diving catch.
Great calls....tough to argue against them
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
I forgot if it was over a certain time period or not; was Willie Mays catch in 1954 not included?
Those two are epic, and I also love, love, love the Endy Chavez catch in Game 7 of the 2006 NLCS.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 14, 2011 2:27 PM PST up reply actions
Can't forget the Steve Bartment effort!!!
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
Thanks
I have watched bits and pieces of that show, as well as the other countdown they were running this week, and both are DVRd.
That other Mays catch was the one that took out Bobby Bonds, right? Or maybe I’m confusing two. All I know is that Candlestick had a fucking chain link fence.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 14, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
Those were both awesome plays
Where did Gary Matthews, Jr.’s catch in Texas end up?
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
I want to say there was some play when he was a Mariner.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 14, 2011 2:32 PM PST up reply actions
Was he the guy who started the barehand grab and throw? If so, he had a bunch of those. Catch and throw in one motion.
Possibly
I can’t remember if Ozzie ever did that; he probably did.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 14, 2011 2:34 PM PST up reply actions
I think that just about every middle infielder can pull it off
I think Vizquel made it famous because he made it a part of his defensive game. It goes against a lot of common fielding fundamentals. Playing second on double play dept, if there was a ball hit to my right up the middle I would often turn two with a behind the back flip, but NEVER in a game situation…EVER.
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
I’m a fan of the full extension 3b dive down the line, then get up and throw. Nettles was the best I ever saw at that.
I saw enough of Nettles in the ’78 (or was it ’77 WS). Fuck you Nettles, fuck you.
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I really did hate him
and at that time I had very little control over my emotions.
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this
my Dad’s attitude towards Nettles.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 14, 2011 4:08 PM PST up reply actions
You have to be a beast of a man to pull it off
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
so hard to do....has to be a Sunday hop
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
The one I love is Brett Butler robbing a Met (Chris Donnels? Maybe too early for him) of a home run, because Butler stays on the wall forever, and then is celebrating like the whole way back to the dugout (with Mondesi), with his gigantor glove “Lucille.”
by Eric Stephen on Jan 14, 2011 2:31 PM PST up reply actions
In all of them
he seemed to break himself
I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain
The one to get Harold Reynolds was off a double IIRC. Classic.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 14, 2011 2:34 PM PST up reply actions
What about Ankiel's throw from the warning track?
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
That was on there. I think they grouped in his two plays in the same game against Colorado, but I could be mistaken.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 14, 2011 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
The Ken Griffey, Sr. play in LF at Yankee Stadium is outstanding, and I really like the Buck Martinez two-out play, especially the amazing scoop he made to get the second out after essentially getting crippled and was immobile at home plate.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 14, 2011 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
Oh yeah that was so great. In 2008 as a Diamondback, while Micah Owings was busy with the laser show in Cincy. :)
by Eric Stephen on Jan 14, 2011 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
Manny
rolling over ball in LF while playing the Angels just before he got traded to us, is one that sticks out for me.
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Hahahaha
A classic as well. Along with diving to cut off a Johnny Damon throw from like 40 feet away :)
by Eric Stephen on Jan 14, 2011 2:37 PM PST up reply actions
LOVED THAT ONE
Solidified Manny being Manny
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
Stephen Drew, anybody?
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 14, 2011 2:37 PM PST up reply actions
Was that the Memorial Day game? I thought that was the balk-off.
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 14, 2011 2:45 PM PST up reply actions
The Stephen Drew game was this April 15 game, right?
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 14, 2011 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
Yep
I mixed up two different games against Arizona during which I was eating dinner at my sister’s house. :)
by Eric Stephen on Jan 14, 2011 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
Easy to do
They played really shitty defense against us at least twice in teh early months.
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 14, 2011 2:51 PM PST up reply actions
Never gets old.
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 14, 2011 2:41 PM PST up reply actions
That was a great show
I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain
Thanks
I wrote the first paragraph with the NFL voice in my mind.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I couldn’t figure out how to get Tundra in it.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
classic
I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain
Yes, thanks
Love both hearing the story and getting the retelling of an actual classic game. How great would it be if Big D was still around?
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Rick Monday
would just have been discovered as the man with the Golden Voice whose life hit hard times because he took to drinking when he couldn’t land an analyst gig even when he wore the flag to remind everyone of what he’d done to save America.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 14, 2011 2:57 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
So does this mean
Furcal isn’t the best SS the LA Dodgers have had?
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
Dodger great plays
Milton Bradley robbing somebody of a home run in Petco and wagging his finger to the crowed as he trotted in? Is this a valid memory?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Does anyone remember when Milton Bradley
got into it with Paul Loduca and then afterwards had a quote in ESPN that was directly out of an Eminem ft. Xibit song? (don’t approach me)
you don’t know me
and I don’t know you
so don’t approach me
and I won’t approach you
and don’t insult me
I won’t insult you
cause you don’t know
what I will or I won’t do
As much as I love Eminem…I thought it was the corniest thing ever
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
I remember the incident
and thought LaDuca was being a dick.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
In retrospect it might have been a good trade
but goddamnit I was so fucking pissed at the time.
I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain
I saw X Paul make an amazing sliding catch in LF last year. He squandered that good will though.
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by Maddz on Jan 14, 2011 2:58 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
OT observation from the gym
If your arms (read: biceps) are super jacked but the rest of you is puny, you’re doing it wrong. Not attractive.
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by Maddz on Jan 14, 2011 2:57 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Curls get girls. Leg work is for ballet dancers.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jan 14, 2011 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
all the power comes from the hips, I need a good core
by Josie Becker on Jan 14, 2011 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
Two words: baseball pants
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by Maddz on Jan 14, 2011 2:59 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
What about being weak and tiny all over? How about it, ladies?
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 14, 2011 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
What’s the make version of a spinner?
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by Maddz on Jan 14, 2011 3:02 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Male. Thanks iPhone.
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by Maddz on Jan 14, 2011 3:03 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
male version of a spinster?
that would be bachelor dahlink
by Josie Becker on Jan 14, 2011 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
No no. “spinner”. Totally different. I’ll put it to you this way: you and I are not to most guys as we are tall. Unless the guy is like 6’5"
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by Maddz on Jan 14, 2011 3:05 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
wow, did not need to urban dictionary that one. The mental images alone, geez.
by Josie Becker on Jan 14, 2011 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
I’m not sure what you’re referring to, but spinner has been part of my working vocabulary for years.
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by Maddz on Jan 14, 2011 3:15 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
spinner goes back quite a ways. Even I know what it means.
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Earlier I think. They had most of their success after leaving Motown. Philippé “Soul” Wynne FTW.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I knew he had passed awhile back, but I see that it was all the way back in 1984. Man.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Nah bro. Shoulder shrugs and curls all the way.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jan 14, 2011 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
Do guys want to get awoke arms cos that’s what impresses other dudes?
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by Maddz on Jan 14, 2011 3:06 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
SWOLE. DAMMIT
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by Maddz on Jan 14, 2011 3:06 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
How do you do caps lock on iphone?
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 14, 2011 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
Double click the caps button.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jan 14, 2011 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
Hit the up arrow on the keypad twice. :)
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by Maddz on Jan 14, 2011 3:08 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Maybe it’s cause the grew up worshipping Hulk Hogan and his 24 inch pythons.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jan 14, 2011 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
But other than the gay aspect, it’s so you can pop off your shirt at inappropriate times.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jan 14, 2011 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
So if someone comes up to you on the street and steals your shirt, you’d be confused, but in the end, you’re cool with it.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jan 14, 2011 3:09 PM PST up reply actions
But if your back/chest/core has been ignored at the expense of your arms…
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by Maddz on Jan 14, 2011 3:12 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Anyone points it out you flex.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jan 14, 2011 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
Seems similar to girls getting ridiculous up-dos for prom or whatever. That’s to impress other girls. Wearing your hair down is for the menz.
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by Maddz on Jan 14, 2011 3:10 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Girls wearing their hair up is common courtesy. You know, so it doesn’t tickle our thighs.
You are my favorite reason to lose sleep.
same reason men shouldn’t wear mustaches
by Josie Becker on Jan 14, 2011 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
Yawn.
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by Maddz on Jan 14, 2011 3:40 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I believe that’s the idea, yes.
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 14, 2011 3:40 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
BTW
Nice job of slipping “The Dutch Rudder” into the DT discussion. I should have played along and asked “gee, what’s a Dutch Rudder?”
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
Hahaha. I was surprised no one asked. And sorta relieved.
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by Maddz on Jan 14, 2011 3:04 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
On the Rays having picks in the next (deep) draft
Jim Callis of BA tweeted that they had these picks:
24, 31, 32, 38, 41, 51, 55, 58. Qualls would get them 59Crap that’s a lot.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
None in the top 24, I realize the draft is supposedly “deep” but don’t they have the same probability of drafting a bunch of AA washouts as anyone else? It’s not like they’re sitting there with 1, 18, 19, 20, 22, 27, 29, 35, 36, 50
You are my favorite reason to lose sleep.
You got more chances to win the lottery if you buy 100 tickets.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jan 14, 2011 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
Right, I’m really only saying, “Wow, look at all those picks”. And then realizing they have none in the top half of the draft so all the (theoretically) elite talent will be taken. You might get guys with signing issues falling to the Rays, but they aren’t exactly the Over Slot posterchildren.
You are my favorite reason to lose sleep.
True, but there’s still some value in supplemental round picks.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jan 14, 2011 3:23 PM PST up reply actions
sucks to be so good
you don’t draft until 24
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1, 18, 19, 20, 22, 27, 29, 35, 36, 50
I wonder if it’s even realistic for a team to get the #1 pick and also that many later first round/supplemental picks. You’d have to be terrible — the worst team in the league — but also have enough great Type-A players that winning teams signed them.
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 14, 2011 3:26 PM PST up reply actions
could be that your offense was historically terrible but you had 6 really good starting pitchers and a couple type-a relievers.
You are my favorite reason to lose sleep.
Even 6org managed to not have the worst record in baseball.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jan 14, 2011 4:00 PM PST up reply actions
I was confused by you calling Vicente Padilla “really good” :)
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jan 14, 2011 4:03 PM PST up reply actions
I would have said “great.”
14-game winners don’t grow on trees.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 14, 2011 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
Shit! I was all set to say that a historically bad offense, 6 really good SP, and a couple of type-A relievers was good enough for 85-77. What am I gonna do now?!
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 14, 2011 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
now think what they could do
if they could trade draft picks. Though admittedly, draft picks are probably worth less in MLB than other sports.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 14, 2011 4:14 PM PST up reply actions
Not exactly news (more like standard procedure) but
according to @dylanohernandez : Chad Billingsley, James Loney and Hong-Chih Kuo filed for arbitration today.
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LA face with an Oakland booty
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by Maddz on Jan 14, 2011 3:41 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
Back before I started Weight Watchers, I measured myself at work. I was like, 40-36-44. I don’t know what I am now, which makes dress shopping difficult.
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by Maddz on Jan 14, 2011 3:46 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I never accept a first number without a letter accompanying it.
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haha
I don’t really care about the numbers because eventually, it all comes down to how you wear it.
The letter, Dave, at the time, was C++. It’s not true anymore.
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Had we heard this before?
Withrow, the club’s first-round pick in the 2007 Draft, suffered a herniated disk in his lower back during October’s instructional league and until this week had been limited to core-strengthening exercises.
This is from a new Gurnick article.
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Brandon and I saw him throwing with all the other pitchers so he’s doing more then just core-strengthening.
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Good
Trayvon Robinson (OF, LAD) (#45, Rob #79)
I can understand why others may not be as high on Robinson as I am. Other than speed, he doesn’t own any eye-popping tools. Nevertheless, he leveraged a solid season in Double-A into a terrific stint in the AFL. For someone with such raw skills, he’s put up numbers while showing continuous improvement in his all-around game. Robinson plays outstanding defense and has enough speed to steal 30+ bases on an annual basis. The big question mark at this point is how much power he will deliver. The consensus is 10-15 HR, but I think he has the strength and bat speed to produce 20+ with some seasons of 25 or more. When you factor in speed, power, and defense, that’s a pretty solid combination for an everyday player. Even if he does hit only 10-15 HR, he adds significant value with the other parts of his game. Look for him to reach the majors in 2011 and compete for a full-time job in 2012.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Jeff and Jared Weaver at Wood Ranch Simi Youth Baseball Fundraiser - Jan 24
(Also last day for Shetland evaluation is the 24th)
I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"
That would be cool to go to
I’m sure Kara is taking Myka to that, I’ll have to ask her about it.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Bad
Dee Gordon – To be blunt, I think he’s one of the most overhyped prospects of recent memory. I don’t see him hitting for BA or power and I also am not a fan of his defense. Outside of speed/athleticism, I’m not impressed.
The above quotes were from Jeremy from Baseball HQ who along with Rob, handle the minor league scouting.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
No, maybe that should have been the ugly
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
So I'm wondering
If Jeremy has to be wrong about one these guys would we rather he was wrong about Trayvon or Dee?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Dee
outfielders are a dime a dozen. If everyone else is right about Dee, it means we have a gold glove defender.
You are my favorite reason to lose sleep.
I beg to differ
If Trayvon hits that ceiling he is one of the best center fielders in the game.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
No matter what Dee Gordon
does he will never win a gold glove.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
When Dee Gordon is no worst than No. 3 Dodger Prospect in Baseball America's list next week
Once again someone can ask the question why?
I love that there is so much
difference in opinion on him, I’m really rooting for him to be what the scouts say he can be.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
i'm rooting for all our guys
not saying you aren’t Phil :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 14, 2011 4:40 PM PST up reply actions
I can’t think of anyone I’m not rooting for or haven’t rooted for.
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I have said this before
the first time I saw Gordon hit in competition (AA ST game at Camelback), he hit a home run. I think Keith Law was there too.
exacataly
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 14, 2011 4:45 PM PST up reply actions
I hope Kyle Russell defies the odds and becomes a >120 OPS+ MLB RF. It will be nice for IVDown to get the last laugh.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
yes!
I hope that too.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 14, 2011 4:52 PM PST up reply actions
Roberto Baly
has his vision of a Kuo bobblehead up. Reduced size version below.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I guess I’ll take bat flip over leg kick
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by Maddz on Jan 14, 2011 3:50 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
What am I supposed to think, that this is some kind of magic bobblehead. I hope someone got fired for that one.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jan 14, 2011 3:53 PM PST up reply actions
That is Roberto’s concept. Sorry if that wasn’t clear.
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It was a bad attempt to integrate a Simpsons quote.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jan 14, 2011 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
CORRECTION
I misread Roberto’s post. That image is from The Left Field Pavilion.
Also, in case you haven’t seen it in awhile, the bat flip video.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
That video is wrong.
It can’t have been Betemit hitting a home run because the pitcher was left handed.
You are my favorite reason to lose sleep.
Dodger bobblehead schedule
Kershaw (5/17), Mattingly (6/1), Kuo (6/14), Ethier (7/7), Fernandomania (7/26) & one TBD (8/9). Any suggestions for TBD? How about something else 1981 WS related? Or maybe by then there will be a clamoring for a Jerry Sands one.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
A three-headed bobblehead for the tri-MVPs of the 1981 World Series (Guerrero, Cey, Yeager)?
by Eric Stephen on Jan 14, 2011 4:06 PM PST up reply actions
heyo!
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Joke: Frank McCourt. The head bobbles as it is held by a rope held by Jamie McCourt.
Real: Has Billingsley had a bobblehead yet? If not, he is the clear choice. If so — and Kemp has had one… then it should be a great Dodger from the past.
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 14, 2011 4:06 PM PST up reply actions
Lopes is a great choice. I wonder if there is a creative way in the design to show him as a player when viewed from one angle and as a coach when viewed from another….
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 14, 2011 4:08 PM PST up reply actions
The Dodgers are pimping Kershaw, Ethier and Lilly the hardest this year based on the advertising I’ve seen.
Oh, of course, Lilly
That’s who it’ll be.
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 14, 2011 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
You have seen advertisements with Ted Lilly that don’t involve the rest of the starting rotation?
by Eric Stephen on Jan 14, 2011 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
Fernandomania (7/26)
Wait, they’re doing another Fernando bobblehead? Didn’t they just do one a few years ago? I have it. He’s holding the ball at his side.
This is a good opportunity to have a better design — entering his windup, arms over head, looking up.
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 14, 2011 4:17 PM PST up reply actions
I apologize if this was discussed yesterday
but Rafael Soriano’s deal with the Yankees has opt out clauses after both 2011 and 2012.
I just now noticed
while commenting at Dodger Thoughts that the url is
sportsnation.espn
so
sbnation which stands for sportsblognation just seems to similar to me.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Who is going to buy SBNation within the next 18 months and why?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Frank McCourt
to troll the living hell out of us.
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Manny waiting for the call
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=6021568
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MLB Show
My Dodgers franchise team in the Show made it to the NLDS yesterday to face the Cubs. We lost game 1, 6-5. But I expect Kershaw to nail game 2
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by robotmadeofnails on Jan 14, 2011 4:41 PM PST reply actions
Is that a good game
should I take a flyer on it? Assuming its on PS3
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
Yea. I love it. It is dirt cheap on PS3 now for the 2010 version
The best part is that a bunch of baseball nuts and ex scouts update the rosters with AAA/AA players and load them on the online place for the show.
http://www.operationsports.com/news/408438/mlb-10-the-show-rosters-os-full-minors-v1/
Posted by Kevin, formerly a virgo, and now a freaking Leo.
by robotmadeofnails on Jan 14, 2011 4:48 PM PST up reply actions
Actually, this is the roster page
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by robotmadeofnails on Jan 14, 2011 4:51 PM PST up reply actions
Interview Update
I am still going to a hiring event tomorrow, but it is not for the specific job I was interviewed for. Holding my head up high even though it might be a waste of time…but you never know who is watching.
Posted by Kevin, formerly a virgo, and now a freaking Leo.
by robotmadeofnails on Jan 14, 2011 4:42 PM PST reply actions
Knock them dead either way, literally if necessary.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 14, 2011 4:43 PM PST up reply actions
Iv'e had success
with getting different jobs from the one I interviewed for. It sometimes is a better one
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
Like that time you interviewed for office clerk and got the gigolo job?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Yea, I am hoping for this. They called me for a job I didn’t even apply for, so…while tomorrow may be a waste of time, it definitely can’t hurt
Posted by Kevin, formerly a virgo, and now a freaking Leo.
by robotmadeofnails on Jan 14, 2011 4:49 PM PST up reply actions
The plus
on that is that you made a good impression in the interview and now they are trying to find a way to get you into the company.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
at the very least, you'll get more experience interviewing!
and re: your signature…your sign didn’t change. :)
we’re still the same.
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It is
and work is doing its best to fuck it up for me. But I think I have it under control
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
good luck!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 14, 2011 4:46 PM PST up reply actions
Great post.
Nice seeing some of youse guys over at DT the last couple of days. Jon deserves a bit of homage every now and then :)
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Jan 14, 2011 5:04 PM PST reply actions
tinurl
translates to # # # # at ESPN. Just like cuss words.
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Jan 14, 2011 5:05 PM PST reply actions
I saw that
whut up with that?
Good thing about ESPN commenting is that you can delete your own comment.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I don’t know, but ESPN seems to be a very fickle mistress.
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Jan 14, 2011 5:08 PM PST reply actions
Now that I think of it, the ESPN filter maybe sees tinyurl as a reference to a, er, ahem, certain organ.
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Jan 14, 2011 5:12 PM PST reply actions
Only hipsters know what the Hammond B-3 is.
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 14, 2011 9:16 PM PST up reply actions
Excuse me: Hipsters and Old People.
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 14, 2011 9:23 PM PST up reply actions
Actually, the only reason I know that is a friend of mine in the Air Force, way back when, bought his used hammond from him in 1968. That was his claim to fame.
I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"
The only reason I know is because I am a fucking hipster what listens to too much KJAZ.
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 14, 2011 9:28 PM PST up reply actions
I’d have to call my daughter and have her tell me what a hipster is. I know nothing! (famous German quote)
I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"
lol
i’d say (Colonel) Clink!(as a pun) but I know that was a different character.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 14, 2011 9:34 PM PST up reply actions
Wow Maddz that was quick
I think I sent that request about five seconds before you confirmed.
excuses
I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain
Hey Phil...
…great story, as usual. Did you ever see Maury Wills play in person? I did when I was 11 or 12, a couple of times. He got on base and the entire stadium, prompted by the message board, started chanting “GO! GO! GO!”. And at least once I saw him steal a base. Everyone knew he was going, and he went anyway and was safe. I can’t imagine what that ’62 season was like; they must have been screaming every time he got on base.
One of the lost nuggets of the stolen base, at least with someone like Wills or Henderson, is how disruptive that must have been to the pitcher, and the entire defensive strategy. I wonder how many shit pitches were thrown, or pitch-outs, with Wills on first in ’62.
I saw 4 or 5 games in 1962, all from the left field bleachers. I think the seat cost 75 cents back then. But Maury stole at least one base in each of the games I saw. The “Go-Go-Go” chant was a staple of that year.
Vinny used to talk about the effect he had on the pitchers, and at that time, everyone in the stands had transistor radios, so the pitchers could hear his comments. So, the pitchers were very aware of Maury, and what he could do.
I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"
Thats awesome
especially the part about vin
I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain
I liked hearing about the "GO" chant
in Jon’s book.
I also liked hearing about a “Rickey Rally” on a special about Henderson. He would get a walk, steal second, steal third, and then end up coming home on a sac fly. that’s just awesoke
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 14, 2011 8:05 PM PST up reply actions
the "GO" chant?
someone would have to prove they can steal that many.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 14, 2011 9:18 PM PST up reply actions
Or get on base often enough to make stealing a viable option.
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 14, 2011 9:19 PM PST up reply actions
baby steps
we’ll start with at Humma.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 14, 2011 9:19 PM PST up reply actions
that*
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 14, 2011 9:19 PM PST up reply actions
Fair enough.
Clearly, the Chavez Ravine faithful are chant-hungry: If Dodger Stadium can turn Hee Seop Choi’s name into a chant, any chant is possible.
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 14, 2011 9:21 PM PST up reply actions
As Tommy says: baby steps.
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 14, 2011 9:24 PM PST up reply actions
This is why Chin-Lung Hu not catching on sucks
We could’ve totally been chanting “Hu’s on First!” every time he reached.
Except that every announcer ever would’ve already beat the crowd to it.
When was the last time we had a genuine “base stealer”? I can’t remember a real threat on the basepaths. I thought Kemp was supposed to be a base stealer, but after last year……..
I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"
Oh yeah, Roberts. But with Pierre, did he pinch run that often? (on base fail joke)
I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"
Furcal had 37 his first year in LA
But he hasn’t been the same since his back problems started.
Furcal
I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain
I saw him at the end of his career
and remember going to a game where he struck out something like three times and I was all upset. My Dad told me as we were headed back to park if I was going to be such a bad fan he wouldn’t take me to any more games. I expect at 12 years old I was a total xxxx jerk when I went to the games, I’d have hated to be a seated near me.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Kinbote
Dodgers Without Borders? HILARIOUS, SIR
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Oh yeah
it’s Friday night, huh. Y’all are probably doing something interesting. Like watching the Lakers play the Nets.
I guess I’ll do homework?
TBLAck Widow and Standard Bearer of the "We Love Chad" Society
I think everyone is watching the Clippers:)
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I'm watching Criminal Minds reruns
Thats right, I know how to party.
Psh
I’m leveling Archeology in WoW while drinking Mexican coke. now thats a party
I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain
clink indeed
The kids are asleep and that means it’s party time!
And by “party time,” I mean, it’s gettin’ hot in herre, I’m taking off all my clothes — then I’m putting on my pajamas and going to bed.
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 14, 2011 9:30 PM PST up reply actions
Cleaning!
stupid in laws
I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain
Could be interesting
On one hand, borrowing money sounds worse when you say “cash advance,” and we really don’t know the details enough to judge the deal. We also don’t know how this will really affect things going forward.
On the other hand, this implies a continuing relationship with Fox, so a new TV deal might be in the works, which was expected. Selig could reject such a new TV deal, as Shaikin and previously Olney have reminded us, but until that happens I’m not sure there is anyway to know how baseball would really act in such a situation.
That said, with McCourt’s trip to NY to meet with Selig’s peeps, there is obviously something that needed smoothing over.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 14, 2011 8:54 PM PST up reply actions
I meant to ask about this earlier
is there anything to stop them from just signing an extension to the current deal worth a billionty dollars, fright now, thus giving Frank the moolah he needs?
I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain
I guess Selig could reject the deal, but if it’s a solid deal it would seem punitive and a dick move if he did.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 14, 2011 9:18 PM PST up reply actions
nolander
is your sig from Earthworm Jim?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 14, 2011 9:18 PM PST up reply actions
you have left my speechless
for shame Tommy, for shame. Just kidding… maybe. Its from only the greatest work of science fiction of all time, Frank Herbert’s Dune. It is the Litany Against Fear.
I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain
figured
but it was in Earthworm Jim, just they ripped it off from Dune it seems.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 14, 2011 9:29 PM PST up reply actions
ah
I still haven’t played that game. Crazy, I know
I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain
crazy as me not reading Dune?
it was actually from the cartoon. his friend Peter Puppy would turn into a monster whenever he was hurt or scared. So whenever Jim would drag him on a scary adventure, he’d start saying that.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 14, 2011 9:36 PM PST up reply actions
or Beetlejuice
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 14, 2011 9:37 PM PST up reply actions
not quite
Jim was an anthropomorphic worm about the size of a normal human . A sandworm is a gigantic worm that could swallow a house whole
I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain
He was actually a more or less normal worm, stuffed in a robotic humanoid suit, as I recall.
Or, at least, thats what he was in the games. He’d even swing around by pulling himself out of the suit and using himself as a Indiana Jones-style whip swing.
Yes, I am embarrassed I know this.
suit, yes
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 14, 2011 9:41 PM PST up reply actions
No no you are right
I forgot that
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I’ve read dune like 3 times. My mom was obsessed with the lynch movie for some reason because it’s kinda horrible.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jan 14, 2011 9:46 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I used to love that movie
Then I read the book and that was all over.
Sting made a pretty decent Feyd though.
my copy is leatherbound
aaaaaaaaaaaah yeah
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Nice Wills story – he told me and a bunch of other guys pretty much the same story when I was at Dodger camp
Funny how the mind creates tales and mashes memories
Outside of Yeager, Maury was my favorite guy there – he also told me I had a nice crow hop, so I got that going for me
which is nice
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 14, 2011 9:41 PM PST up reply actions
Still on for breakfast and Stiller game?
and no, that is not a spelling error
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 14, 2011 9:44 PM PST up reply actions
Predictable, comedic game that is somehow popular despite obvious flaws? :)
by Eric Stephen on Jan 14, 2011 9:46 PM PST up reply actions
just an hour back
so delightfully warm here – St. Louis was bitter
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 14, 2011 9:50 PM PST up reply actions
i'll always remember
The Dodgers sending the “best fans in baseball” home early in 09.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 14, 2011 10:00 PM PST up reply actions
Today was the deadline for season ticket holders to reserve their same seats
So they got some cash today.
*shrug*
I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain
That face says
“Can we get this over with? I got a case of gin to finish polishing off.”
clink!
lol
I hope he goes down in flames this weekend
(sorry any Bears fans lurking here)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Happy about fox?
I’m happy we get to keep Dennison
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for you
I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain
by nolander on Jan 14, 2011 9:53 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Roman Numerals FTMFW
It would be especially funny if you use this after his 20th interception.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 14, 2011 9:55 PM PST up reply actions
but
who wants to live in riverside?
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Yeah same for shreveport
doesn’t mean I want to live their either
I must not fear .Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain
I lived in Riverside for a month
In the Mission Inn for a trial. Thankfully it was in January. It pretty much sucked. But that Simple Simon place makes a mean ass breakfast. Best chicken apple sausage I ever had.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jan 15, 2011 9:37 AM PST up reply actions
Mission Inn is great around Christmas
Really beautiful light displays. Beyond that, downtown Riverside is a place I avoid like the plague.
Lived in Riverside for a couple years
It was awesome. And by awesome I mean… not so much.
Still live pretty close, and really, too close for my liking.
I played some soccer tournaments there. It was the first time I saw a tumbleweed.
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I grew up in the high desert
tumbleweeds were like some of my first toys as a kid.
Time to bring it
Off to the group interview. Time to just relax and have fun.
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by robotmadeofnails on Jan 15, 2011 7:19 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Just looked through last nights comments
Kuo’s bat flip(lol) was amazing. I saw it live and it looked like he had done this hundreds of times. A real jaw dropper.
If he's anything like Chan Ho Park
Then he has done it hundreds of times. In the mirror.
McCourt,Fox
So disgusted with people who don’t give a damn about the Dodger way. The Dodgers have to get free of Fox and set up their own network, like the Yankees and Red Sox, if they want to have the revenue to play with the big boys. Frank’s desperation could back-load the fortunes of the whole franchise. I hope MLB doesn’t put up with this stuff.
Cue several comments about ratings and the lack of feasibility of said network.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 15, 2011 9:06 AM PST up reply actions
Are there questions about its success? Nesn(New England) and YES use combinations like a baseball team, a hockey team, and college sports. I know I’m in a sports crazy region ( sometimes there are 2 feet of snow on the ground for 4 or 5 months and nothing to do if you aren’t into skiing). But there seems to be a lot of interest in sports in so. cal. between B-ball and colleges.
Theres a lot of interest in the Lakers, and other teams if its trendy (IE, they’re winning). Traditionally, the Dodgers get very poor ratings on TV and radio. I know it was posted at one point a few weeks back, but the ratings the Dodgers pull on PT are pretty meager, like bottom half in MLB.
That said, the Rangers really don’t do much better/worse then the Dodgers, and they just signed a huge TV network deal as I recall, so… maybe.
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