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Dodgers Move Opening Day To March 31, On ESPN

The Dodgers have officially moved their home opener from April 1 to March 31. The game on March 31 will be held at 5 p.m., and will be televised by ESPN. Roberto Baly of Vin Scully is My Homeboy broke the story yesterday. ESPN had previously requested a March 31 game be played in San Francisco, before resuming the series at Dodger Stadium, but the Dodgers apparently put their foot down, and rightfully so.

For those of you who turn 50 on April 1, and wanted to spend your 50th birthday at Dodger Stadium for opening day, like my brother Kelly, for instance, my condolences.

The Dodgers will now have an off day on Monday, April 4, the original date scheduled for the fourth game of the opening three game series. Three of the four games with the Giants in that opening series, with ESPN televising Thursday and Sunday, and Fox showing Saturday's game.

The Dodgers also announced their 2011 promotional schedule, which includes two Fernanomania giveaways: a fleece blanket night on April 19 and a bobblehead giveaway on July 26.

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Clayton Kershaw will lead the major leagues in wins on the morning of April 1, 2011.

Is he coming in in relief of Padilla to vulture a victory?

New Year's Day is every man's birthday.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 10:44 AM PST reply actions  

Also

I hope they retire Fernando’s jersey on one of his giveaway days.

New Year's Day is every man's birthday.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 10:45 AM PST reply actions  

Last thing before lunchtime

New Year's Day is every man's birthday.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 10:47 AM PST reply actions  

New promotion? Half priced food and drink. I bet beer isn’t included.

Scratch that. I HOPE beer isn’t included.

New Year's Day is every man's birthday.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Is that in honor of future player Leon Landry's

LSU alma mater?

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jan 6, 2011 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

The Dodgers are celebrating Laker championships now? So it’s come to this.

by Josie Becker on Jan 6, 2011 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

They also had USC and UCLA days

its just smart promotion

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Eh. To me college nights are just an investment in your local community. Celebrating another teams’ championship feels minor league to me.

by Josie Becker on Jan 6, 2011 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I believe next Thursday is Dodger fan Appreciation Night at the LA Kings game.

New Year's Day is every man's birthday.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

and that makes sense, given the sport’s hierarchy

by Josie Becker on Jan 6, 2011 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Mattingly is dropping the puck.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

They were going to

but the Kings were worried he’d drop it, pick it up, and drop it again.

New Year's Day is every man's birthday.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

With Lopes wearing Dodger blue

I would say the Infield of the 1981 World Series Champion Dodgers, or their ROY/CYA Fernando Valenzuela

by bhsportsguy on Jan 6, 2011 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Dusty Baker

This is his town.

New Year's Day is every man's birthday.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

For those who care about such things - No ESPN big bucks for the new Pac-12

SportsBizGal Debbie Spander
RT @SportsBizHub RT @SBJSBD Fox secures rights to first Pac-12 football championship game. http://bit.ly/eLxCbf

by bhsportsguy on Jan 6, 2011 10:48 AM PST reply actions  

Though

$25M is not a little bit of money

by bhsportsguy on Jan 6, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Saw that. Not a fan of Fox’s football crew, so boo.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm not a fan of anybody's football crew

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

True

Although most seem to hate Collinsworth, he is still much better then anyone else I can think of right now. I would like the ESPN booth if they dropped Gruden.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

I dig Collinsworth

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Collinsworth and Bob Papa were great when the did the NFL Network games a few years ago.

by Michael White on Jan 6, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Collinsworth is good

and Gruden can get annoying, but he has a knack for calling plays like none other

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 6, 2011 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I just can't stand him

I LOVE THIS GUY I LOVE THAT GUY THESE GUYS ARE ALL AWESOME FOOTBALL PLAYERS.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

repeat for 60 minutes.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes. PLAYER NAME is a FOOTBALL PLAYER and PLAYER NAME is THE BEST GUY I’VE SEEN THIS WEEK and PLAYER NAME is just such a great NFL FOOTBALL PLAYER.

by LA Taco on Jan 6, 2011 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

It probably bothers me more

because I know he has plenty of value to say, it just gets drowned out in all the fluffing.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

The A team yes. The Notre Dame crew, who will announce Saints/Seahawks, are terrible.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

I actually dig Mike Mayock’s analysis.

by silverwidow on Jan 6, 2011 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

He is no Steve Tasker

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Hopefully Joe Buck calls the action

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I hope you are being facetious.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Thank God.

For the record, I used to be a fan of all things Joe Buck, up until the very day he got on his soapbox to criticize Randy Moss fake-mooning the Packers fans (who, by the way, moon the opposing team buses, which makes it funny). It’s been all downhill ever since.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

This will be un-popular but I like Joe Buck in baseball. I know he is hated on here, but not by me.

I don’t really like him doing football, though.

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Joe Buck

Doesn’t even like baseball – he has called it boring

stone him

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 6, 2011 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

That never sat right with me either.

by Michael White on Jan 6, 2011 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe it’s because he only heard his dad call games!

/burn

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

That fake mooning thing was so overblown

but then again it was Randy Moss, so there was plenty of build up to it.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

I believe he attempted suicide and failed.

New Year's Day is every man's birthday.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe he’ll be depressed about that failure.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Visiting

someone after a botched suicide is depressing. Have to be careful you don’t say the wrong thing that makes them try again even though you want to say something incredibly inappropriate.

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I always thought that if I ever worked at a suicide hotline, I would have this song as my on-hold music.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

"One moment please"

/whiskey lullaby

New Year's Day is every man's birthday.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Visiting your bestie after a successful one sucks even more

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup

that has to mess with your mind

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I had lunch with a client at “J. Bucks” in St. Louis (I think)

I wanted to do something awful and unspeakable to the place – but decorum and decent manners kept me in check

swarmy!!!

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 6, 2011 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Better request that day off now

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 10:50 AM PST reply actions  

Your brother is ancient
For those of you who turn 50 on April 1, and wanted to spend your 50th birthday at Dodger Stadium for opening day, like my brother Kelly, for instance, my condolences.

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 10:52 AM PST reply actions  

I don’t really think that is old.

I just dig Kelly’s over the top responses.

:)

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

As of today

I’m 5 years older than he’ll be

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Jan 6, 2011 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

and 20 years cooler

:)

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Off to Lawry's

have a nice dinner and some good wine.

Happy Birthday!

by bhsportsguy on Jan 6, 2011 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

That's not til the 16th

Couldnt get a date sooner that everyone who is going could make. The big surprise is I’m going to pick up the check

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Jan 6, 2011 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

happy birthday!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 6, 2011 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Thanks

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Jan 6, 2011 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Happy Birthday Marty

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Thanks Joe

Sorry to hear about the pooch. It’s never easy

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Jan 6, 2011 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

thanks – it was as lovely a passing as could be. I was in town (thank god) and it was time. Peacful and loving, we all should be so lucky when our time comes

still feels like hell – like empty dazed burning confused hell

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 6, 2011 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

had JnJ’s ribs Monday. Not bad.

by delias man on Jan 6, 2011 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I saw that tweet

weak that the picture was (a far shot of) the menu and not the food.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Blow me.

And here I was rooting for those damn pigs Tuesday night.

by KellyStephen on Jan 6, 2011 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes!

I knew you’d come through.

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Job/Interview Question

I had a phone interview on Monday afternoon. The woman specifically gave me her name and number to reach her if I had any questions.

First, I want to call today and check in. Is it too soon?

Second, I don’t want her to think I am trying to hurry her, but I want her to know I am pumped about the possible opportunity. How do I word this correctly?

Thanks,

Kevin

by robotmadeofnails on Jan 6, 2011 10:55 AM PST reply actions  

I know I’m a young’n, so take this for what it’s worth:

Follow up e-mail the day after the interview shows genuine interest and let’s you say exactly what you want to say and how you want to say it. A phone call tends to come off as pushy.

You should follow up with a phone call either tomorrow or Monday, though.

Or so says my business classes.

New Year's Day is every man's birthday.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah you are right

e-mail is probably best

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Problem is I cannot get her email

by robotmadeofnails on Jan 6, 2011 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

That seems odd

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

It does

Wouldn’t she immediately hand him a business card as the interview starts?

by Michael White on Jan 6, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Just a general corporate one that goes to the store. I don’t want to send an email for 100’s to read

by robotmadeofnails on Jan 6, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

You could call in and just say thanks for the interview

and ask how the review process is getting along I think. If you are pumped, just say so I guess. I’m sure others have better more specific advice on the process then me though.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Call!

A letter/email thanking for the time the day after is best, but surely call

As an employer I look for people who want to work for us
What kind of job?

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 6, 2011 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Definitely call, just not immediately after the interview. Tomorrow is Friday, call mid-morning, you’ll be fine.

New Year's Day is every man's birthday.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

the interview was on Monday!

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 6, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

whoops. call whenever.

New Year's Day is every man's birthday.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Called in. She won’t be in the office until tomorrow

by robotmadeofnails on Jan 6, 2011 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Think Mikey in Swingers….

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

I already had that dialogue in my head

by robotmadeofnails on Jan 6, 2011 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe a little strong

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Hopefully you sent a thank you email right after the interview

But, it’s not too soon to call. What they tell you on this call will determine whether you should sit tight or call again later.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Jan 6, 2011 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

There was no email to use. I would have

by robotmadeofnails on Jan 6, 2011 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

A hand written Thankyou

Get a small thank you card – write a quick "thank you for the opportunity and that you are still very interested " – then drop it off with her admin or secretary. This is more personal than an email and shows some balls.

by Dodgers1981 on Jan 6, 2011 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s cool that the Dodgers open on National TV, but (IMO) the best part about the home opener is that it’s a day game and people skip work to be there. 5pm just isn’t the same.

by LA Taco on Jan 6, 2011 11:00 AM PST reply actions  

Vin

If ESPN were smart, they would invite Vin Scully to call 3 innings of the game. (Knowing ESPN, I suppose that would translate to 1 inning. Vin won’t ever agree to be on a 2- or 3-man team, so that might translate down to just interviewing Vin, which would be too bad.) I recall that either ESPN or FOX had that old-time broadcaster in Detroit, who had retired, call an inning of a Tigers game a year or two ago, as a special. They shouldn’t wait for Vin to retire. They should do it now.

Eric, is that something you might want to suggest to Josh Rawitch?

Anyway, at the moment, we’ll be getting Vin just April 1 that first weekend?

by berkowit28 on Jan 6, 2011 11:07 AM PST reply actions  

If ESPN where smart

they would have Vin do the entire game, and do a huge marketing campaign around it. They aren’t though, so they won’t.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Anyway, at the moment, we’ll be getting Vin just April 1 that first weekend?

Yes

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

I think the most the Dodgers will do is have Vin Scully call the March 31 game on radio, since it’s opening day.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Angels top 11 out by BP
Five-Star Prospects
1. Mike Trout, OF
2. Jean Segura, 2B
Four-Star Prospects
3. Jordan Walden, RHP
4. Hank Conger, C
5. Kaleb Cowart, 3B
Three-Star Prospects
6. Garrett Richards, RHP
7. Fabio Martinez, RHP
8. Mark Trumbo, 1B
9. Tyler Chatwood, RHP
10. Trevor Reckling, LHP
11. Randal Grichuk, OF

Seems to be a stronger farm system than most teams not named the Royals. Although it seems that Randal Grichuk is a bust. If the Angels didn’t have two picks back to back, Mike Trout might have gone somewhere else since Grichuk was picked first.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=12680

by Tripon on Jan 6, 2011 11:11 AM PST reply actions  

Not to many five star 2nd baseman running around

Seems way to early to be calling Grichuk a bust, remember he was a high school draftee in 2009, so while he’s no Mike Trout being number 11 doesn’t speak bust to me.

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Segura

His stats say younger, better version of Dee Gordon.

by silverwidow on Jan 6, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Fuck Mark Trumbo.

New Year's Day is every man's birthday.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Did he steal your girl and hit a homer off you in high school?

by BFDC on Jan 6, 2011 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Played on the Yankees’ scout ball team with him. Just a general douche bag.

New Year's Day is every man's birthday.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Off the top of my head

I’d rather have Royals, Braves, & Rays systems and probably a few others, but they are surely top 10. Four-Star grades for Conger and Cowart seems a little generous.

by BFDC on Jan 6, 2011 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

The power of (or problem with) Facebook

I got a birthday greeting from an old girlfriend I haven’t talked to in 27 years.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Jan 6, 2011 11:11 AM PST reply actions  

I love it.

You’ll never have one then.

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

This is humorous to me

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Its humorous for a different reason

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Can't

its a secret

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh, the Drama.

I have no facebook account.

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

we could have so much fun on twitter

by delias man on Jan 6, 2011 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I had a twitter account. Havent looked at in about 6 months.

I never got into finding good people to follow. Except Eric.

Might need to check it out again.

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

If you want twitter updates full of candid pictures of people and them getting made fun of, delias man is your guy!

by Michael White on Jan 6, 2011 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

i have some new ones coming up

by delias man on Jan 6, 2011 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Well I’ll get back on it then. Send me the particulars.

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

meercat is crushed

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

sorry dude.

Im doing it for the comedy

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

and that is why I am not a facebooker

LinkedIn is bad enough! What kind of derranged ex-gf tracks you down on LinkedIn?

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 6, 2011 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

That is why you just set privacy settings to only allow people you have confirmed to contact you. I just hit “ignore” to friend requests I don’t want.

by robotmadeofnails on Jan 6, 2011 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

I just let friends requests I don't want sit there forever in purgatory

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

my sister-in-law keeps trying to get me on their

i just won’t really pay attention to one

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 6, 2011 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

on there*

man i need to eat

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 6, 2011 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Hold out Tommy!

Join the click with MW and me.

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, I’m on facebook. Just boycotting logging in until you sign up.

On the broader point, I’ve found that Facebook and Twitter are resources that are there to be modelled the way you want them. If you only want to follow people on twitter, do that. If you don’t want to be friends with your exes, don’t be friends with exes.

by Michael White on Jan 6, 2011 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

can I be

Shawn Michaels?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 6, 2011 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

now that's a burn

/slow clap

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 6, 2011 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Dude that is brutal.

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Since when does Major League Baseball start on a Thursday?

Is this a first? First for me, it has always been a Monday, until they started doing the Sunday thing. But a Thursday?

My mind is blown

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 11:14 AM PST reply actions  

emulating the NFL?

better tv viewership on a thursday as opposed to a sunday?

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

The season also ends on a Wednesday.

by silverwidow on Jan 6, 2011 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s so they can start the playoffs on the weekend.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe its just me

but that seems like a good thing

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

1 Packages just exploded the Maryland department of Transportation.

1 exploded in a State building 30 minutes later in Anapolis.

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 11:15 AM PST reply actions  

I'm excited to submit to a strip search

every time I go to the airport

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

G Scott would have said that he’s so beautiful that the TSA workers will be excited to strip search him.

by Michael White on Jan 6, 2011 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

As they should be

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

I gotcha.

Let me know the next time you’re traveling. I’ll hook it up.

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Don't worry

the TSA is going to hook me, and everyone else up soon.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

My brother Greg said he works just a couple miles from the Transportation office.

To my knowledge, he’s not a suspect.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

He’s an angry guy at times. And that nephew of yours was pissing him off about that drivers permit.

I wouldn’t rule him out.

:)

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

WOW

Andrew “best since Elway” Luck is apparently STAYING at Stanford.

I wonder if that means anything for Harbaugh staying too.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 11:24 AM PST reply actions  

Panthers are screwed. They have to start Jimmy “sucks balls” Clausen again.

by silverwidow on Jan 6, 2011 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s an interesting way to avoid Carolina.

by Alex41592 on Jan 6, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Seriously

Just pull an Eli and say you won’t play there.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

In this case, you could call it pulling an Elway

by Michael White on Jan 6, 2011 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

That worked out poorly for ol' John didn't it?

:-P

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jan 6, 2011 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Chris Hinton

Much better player than “answer to trivia question” deserves, btw.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jan 6, 2011 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Thats insane

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

That is unreal.

Last chance to be the number 1 pick with no cap on rookies?

Wow.

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Exactly

It’s crazy in any year (ask Leinart) but it’s so much more crazy to do that this year.

by Michael White on Jan 6, 2011 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

He’s pressing himself.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Question about that

if the strike/lockout happens before the draft, wouldn’t Luck not get to enjoy the benefits of no rookie cap?

If there is no NFL at all in 2011, or if they work out a new deal pre-draft, with a rookie cap anyway, Luck may have made the right move.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Even in that case, I don’t see why the move is right. A year at college means one more year before he ultimately becomes a free agent. And his stock could plummit between years.

by Michael White on Jan 6, 2011 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I get that, but there is a real chance there is no NFL in 2011

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I doubt it. A work stoppage of the sport that’s currently the most popular (by a lot) in the country would be SO stupid.

by Michael White on Jan 6, 2011 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

that’s never happened before.

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I know. But between the NBA and the NFL I’m more optimistic the NFL reaches a deal. Particularly since one hot issue for the owners is the NFL rookie cap. Since the rookies aren’t even members of the union yet, that one should be easily passed.

I’ve spent more time reading up on the NBA one because I think the chances of a stoppage seems more likely.

by Michael White on Jan 6, 2011 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

hasn’t it happened before? when the NFL was still the most popular league?

by Josie Becker on Jan 6, 2011 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Harbaugh must be staying

only way that makes sense to me

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

For such a seemingly smart kid, thats one fucking idiotic decision. I dont care how much you like being in school, go be the #1 pick. And its not like the girls at Stanford are worth staying for…

by UCLADodger32 on Jan 6, 2011 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I wish Josie were here right now; this begs for her input.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s a bad opinion.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jan 6, 2011 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

What would I have a bad opinion of? I have no problem with someone having the desire to finish their Stanford degree. As much guff as I give their athletic programs, their school is the pace car every other school in California tries to follow (though Berkeley does surpass on the research end, Stanford holds its own on ungrad education and can promise much better job opportunities)

Good for Andrew Luck and I wish him luck in all non-football endevors…

Wait what the hell did UCLA say about the girls at Stanford? The hell is your problem with this SoCal girls vs. NorCal girls schtick?

by Josie Becker on Jan 6, 2011 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I meant the “its not like the girls at Stanford are worth staying for…”

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jan 6, 2011 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah I didn’t catch that til the end. SMART GIRLS ARE PRETTY TOO! Brains are attractive, god damn it.

by Josie Becker on Jan 6, 2011 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

You can have it all!

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jan 6, 2011 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

if it weren’t for NorCal women, I may have never gone bi in college. And that, would have been a shame.

by Josie Becker on Jan 6, 2011 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought that was funny

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Hardy Har Har

was before her time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5AGtSnvA4s

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

no i get the meaning of the words, I just dunno what part of my comment was funny

by Josie Becker on Jan 6, 2011 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

The 15 year old boy in me was rearing his pretty head

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess I’m lucky the last TBLA night was so sparsely attendended

by Josie Becker on Jan 6, 2011 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought it was perfectly attended. Gave me a chance to get to know everyone who came and not be just one of a group.

New Year's Day is every man's birthday.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

maybe it was sparse because they knew you were coming?

by delias man on Jan 6, 2011 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

no one knows what I’m talking about, nevermind, it’s all good.

by Josie Becker on Jan 6, 2011 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

EITEFIT

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m lost on this one.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

this thread started with me defending NorCal girls by stating my own attraction to them. Keith found that funny, I quipped that it was good y’all weren’t at the second Karaoke night.

There’s a chain of logic, but I’m over it and want to drop it.

by Josie Becker on Jan 6, 2011 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I think he just means he’s lost on:

EITEFIT

by Michael White on Jan 6, 2011 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Not about you Josie, Eric was curious what EITEFIT meant.

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

For the record, I still don’t know what it means.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

It has no meaning

as usual I screwed up because I can’t fucking spell

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Sorry dude.

I didn’t mean to start a fight at your Black Panther Party

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 6, 2011 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

no worries, y’all know when I’m crabby in here it’s rarely cause I’m an’ry at anyone here.

by Josie Becker on Jan 6, 2011 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Every man here

nods in agreement, cause man do we know.

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

It's not just you

it’s every woman everywhere. Women wonder why we don’t listen? It’s because when women go crazy, their man just kind of assumes they did nothing to provoke it and it’s just Women Being Women.

New Year's Day is every man's birthday.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh Arkansasians.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jan 6, 2011 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Cause only dudes in Arkansas like the idea of 2 chicks hooking up.

:)

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

we go big here. 3 girls hooking up.

by delias man on Jan 6, 2011 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I need to relocate

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Maddz goes 5 guys in Tennessee.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

A devils sixsome.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jan 6, 2011 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s called the Smith & Wesson

New Year's Day is every man's birthday.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Only

if they wear glasses and work in a library or show up in insurance commercials

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought reg meant UCLA’s opinion was a bad one.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Right

Andrew Luck is not some SEC grad where getting a degree in physical education is a better option then being malled in the NFL. The dude is graduating from Standford, is loving the college life and has no reason to hurry into the mundane world of the NFL. Have more fun. FUN FUN FUN

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

that’s my whole point. You don’t retire after winning the super bowl and everyone still on contract, you don’t quit your job a real before retirement, and you don’t leave a top flight school with a year left on your degree.

One good shot to the knee and Luck’s gonna need that degree to finish the rest of his life

by Josie Becker on Jan 6, 2011 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

There are plenty of reasons to hurry.

He gets to be a professional football player. I’m not sure why that’s not considered fun.

by Michael White on Jan 6, 2011 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

it’s a different kind of fun, and maybe he would rather work on his thesis

by Josie Becker on Jan 6, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

PRACTICE
PRACTIVE
PRACTIce
PrACTICE
pRaCTice
Play – get head whacked
recover
RINSE AND REPEAT

FUN FUN FUN

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

also

carry everyone’s pads or pay $48,000 for dinner rook.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 6, 2011 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

As the #1 pick and a QB, he’d be making more than 90% of the people on his team.

New Year's Day is every man's birthday.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

He'll be crying into his bag

of 30 million one dollar bills.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

then

they just shave his head

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 6, 2011 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree

from a life learning and experience stand point I have to support his staying in school while he can. From a logic and business standpoint he’s taking a huge risk because he could get hurt next season or have a bad year and drop in the draft next time around.

But what shouldn’t be overlooked is the threat of an NFL lockout also looms large and may affect his decision

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jan 6, 2011 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

From Luck

“I’m committed to earning my degree in architectural design and am on track to accomplish this at the completion of the spring of ’12”

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

WHO CARES ABOUT ARCHITECTURE

YOU COULD MAKE 30 MILLION DOLLARS.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

He could literally build whatever he wanted using dollar bills from his first contract.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Smart kids are so stupid sometimes

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Johnny Moxon gives a wink

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

I wonder what the premiums cost for the type of insurance policy Luck’s family will surely purchase for next season.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

And then finish your degree during the offseason. It will be interesting to see what happens with a new OL, a new FB, and likely a new coaching staff. Just a weird decision.

by UCLADodger32 on Jan 6, 2011 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

I think I’ve figured it out: Luck hates Steve Smith.

by silverwidow on Jan 6, 2011 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

I am sure Stanford will allow Luck to come back to finish getting his BS after he retires from the NFL.

by Tripon on Jan 6, 2011 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I just heard about this

As a Panthers fan, it’s a bit disheartening, but coupled with the info that Vince Young is on his way out of Tennessee, it might be worth it to swing a trade for him. Or, if they want to risk it, keep the top pick and try to sign him when he’s released in February. Carolina has more holes than just at QB: the OL needs work and Steve Smith needs some help from other receivers so he can become relevant again.

"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

by TomasC on Jan 6, 2011 12:15 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

apparently...

the rookie wage scale will be in effect already, real possibility of lockout, wanting to get his degree, and seeing what happened to Bradford as sort of a worst case scenario, I can understand Luck’s decision.

@neufaustcan

by uclatroy on Jan 6, 2011 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Why is what happened to Bradford a worst case scenario? Seems like the Rams could be poised to own that division for a while.

by BFDC on Jan 6, 2011 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Injured his shoulder

got healthy, still went number one. It is far far from the worse scenario. You could blow out your knee and never play again, THAT would be worse case.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Well there is injury, but also you still have to play well. Everyone acts like its a foregone conclusion if you come back. Jake Locker would have been a top pick last year if he had come out.

by BFDC on Jan 6, 2011 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought Locker was better this year

then last.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

nope I'm wrong

but honestly he wasn’t that great in 2009. I don’t think Lockers draft stock is much injured either way.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I feel like this time last year, people were debating whether Locker would be the #1 overall pick if he came out. Now he may not even be a 1st rounder.

by BFDC on Jan 6, 2011 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I think he was talked about as a #1 pick before the college season started in 09

not so much at the end.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Now he's more of a

Hurt Locker.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jan 6, 2011 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Bradford still got paid

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Injury wise.

I assume Willis McGahee should be closer to a worst case scenario injury wise. Leinart for just missing out on millions of dollars.

by Michael White on Jan 6, 2011 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Does anyone else on here think that John Buccigross has a worse rug than Ned?

That freakin thing is maroon

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 11:25 AM PST reply actions  

With the new NFL playoff OT rules.

A team can kick a field goal to take the lead and could potentially kick an onside kick and if they recover their own kick they would win the game right there.

I want to see this someday.

by Alex41592 on Jan 6, 2011 11:25 AM PST reply actions  

That is outstanding. I’m rooting for this, outside of an overtime with three safeties (is that even possible?)

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

The ultimate risk move.

by silverwidow on Jan 6, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

That would be hilarious

oh man

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Considering the way your team lost this year, Houston would be the first team to lose a playoff game on that move.

by Michael White on Jan 6, 2011 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

They would be

and after I finished crying, I would laugh and laugh and laugh. Maybe even before I finished crying.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

So apprently the price of respect can be bought for $3 million.

by Tripon on Jan 6, 2011 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

we found out what it means

to him

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 6, 2011 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

“We’ve already established what you are, now we’re just negotiating price”

New Year's Day is every man's birthday.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Winston Churchill FTW

one of my favorite quotes by him was after some lady told him that if he was her husband she would poison his tea.

“My dear, if you were my wife, I’d drink it.”

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 6, 2011 12:57 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

rec’d.

New Year's Day is every man's birthday.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

word yo

or…anagram

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 6, 2011 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

If I ever think that I can’t do something, I remember that Winston Churchill was able to become Prime Minister.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jan 6, 2011 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Churchill quotes

A rival politician said he didn’t know whether Churchill suffered from the pox or insanity.
Churchill replied “It all depends on whether I embraced your mistress or your policies.”

by preacher roe on Jan 6, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

boom

roasted

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 6, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Churchill Again...............

Woman to Churchill: “Sir, you are drunk!”
Churchill to woman: “madam, yes I am, and you are ugly. But, in the morning, I will be sober.”

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Jan 6, 2011 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Man that dude hated women. What a character.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jan 6, 2011 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure

many of those quotes about him have been miss-attributed.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I feel like this one applies here on occassion:

A fanatic is one who can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject.

New Year's Day is every man's birthday.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

So you are calling me a fanatic

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I find too often

that immediately after I comment I regret it and wish to explain myself.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

we’re all fanatics.

Ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I prefer crazy and stubborn

thank you very much

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

okay, we’re all fanatics, you’re crazy and stubborn.

Ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

victory!

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Many claim thats actually not a real quote

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s not even that special. It’s a tripleheader on March 31st (Tigers/Yankees, Padres/Cardinals Giants/Dodgers. Plus, there are three other games.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5995662

I’m thinking the ESPN game won’t be exclusive. So, we may get Vinny anyway.

by Alex41592 on Jan 6, 2011 11:51 AM PST reply actions  

We are the headliner though!

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

The press release from the Dodgers says the Thursday game (and Sunday) will be “nationally” televised.

It makes the distinction for regional for the Saturday Fox game.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Looks like a good

day to take off and have a TBLA baseball viewing party for those who don’t want to spend a few hundred on opening day tickets.

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

BWW?

New Year's Day is every man's birthday.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

WTFIBWW

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Rhymes with Ruffalo Child Sings

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 12:57 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Fluffalo Mild Swings

New Year's Day is every man's birthday.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Mark Ruffalo Wings?

The bits are all right.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jan 6, 2011 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I would do this

it would be great.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

So would i

Assuming it’s not at the Fluffalo Mild Swings in Hesperia

by Michael White on Jan 6, 2011 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Ha Ha

you guys kill me

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d happily do Buffalo, I only want to go to Saturday’s game of Regional importance

by Josie Becker on Jan 6, 2011 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

once they got jack booted about hanging out in the parking lot on opening day I dont think Ill be going back for it unless tickets fall into my lap.. they used to look the other way if you were having a couple beers but ever since the dude got stabbed 2 years ago its a police state out there.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jan 6, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

bearface likes this

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s a great story. Way to go to him.

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

BTW

since Stanford and Oregon will play in the same “North” division of the Pac-12 next year, they cannot play each other for the Pac-12 title.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 6, 2011 12:22 PM PST reply actions  

They wouldn't play each other in the "regular" season?

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Assuming they take on the model that most 12 team leagues do, they will play everyone in the North 1 time per year and 3 teams from the South.

Correct away bh…

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Pac-12 plays 9 conference games.

It’s all 5 from the same division, and 4 of the 6 from the other division.

USC/UCLA were able to designate Satnford/Cal as rivals and will play each other every year.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes they do play in the regular season

but since they are in the same division, they cannot play for the title.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 6, 2011 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Just picked up a mint n chip + strawberry cup from Baskin Robbins. I don’t care what anyone says, it’s a wonderful combination.

by silverwidow on Jan 6, 2011 12:26 PM PST reply actions  

Those are the two greatest ice cream flavors ever.

Good call.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I have a bin of maybe the best (worst for you) ice cream in my freezer right now……Hold on while I go get the entire name.

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Denali Extreme Maximum Fudge Moose Tracks

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow, that is bad. Did it come with a GMC vehicle?

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

“Enjoy your SUV Mr. Stephen. Enjoy a carton of ice cream on us.”

by Michael White on Jan 6, 2011 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

It was either that or floor mats.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

It did not.

But it is delish

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

For those of you who have enjoyed the candy called Gushers, good luck ever looking at it the same way again (hat tip to Sam Miller of the OC Register, who tweeted the link)

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 12:35 PM PST reply actions  

For those of you who have children

or just sit around and watch Nick Jr all day….

Have you seen “Dino Dan”?

My daughter likes him more than Mickey Mouse.

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 12:40 PM PST reply actions  

I’ve seen it, but haven’t really been impressed. My son is only 14 months so he doesn’t latch onto any show too intently, but that one doesn’t even seem to capture his attention like Backyardigans or Go Diego Go.

by OB12 on Jan 6, 2011 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Backyardigans is my all time favorite. My daughter will be 3 in 3 days and she loved them. She obv loves Diego and Dora

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Is Bob the Builder still around?

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Not that I know of.
Backyardigans
Olivia
Toot and Puddle (best names ever)
Little Bill
Blues Clues
Dora
Diego
Dino Dan
Jacks Big Music Show

These are a few

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

"Newspaper"

My favorite Backyardigans episode!!!

by Gen3blue on Jan 6, 2011 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I used to watch Nick at Nite because they aired re-runs of my favorite childhood show.

by silverwidow on Jan 6, 2011 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Threes Company?
Taxi?

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Were those shows Kelly liked in his 30s?

by Michael White on Jan 6, 2011 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Cosby Show

Roseanne, please not the Nanny.

Oh, of course, Full House.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 6, 2011 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I want to watch Family Matters again

On the Clipper blog they nicknamed Ike Diogu Eddie Winslow.

by Michael White on Jan 6, 2011 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Fuck family matters

by delias man on Jan 6, 2011 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Never watched a complete episode

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Family Matters is a show that even as a kid I realized was pretty stupid. Yet, I couldn’t stop watching till I got older and the story lines got much more over the top.

by Michael White on Jan 6, 2011 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

For Jon

The Wonder Years (though I can’t remember if that show was ever on Nick).

by bhsportsguy on Jan 6, 2011 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't if I was 8-10 years old I would have liked The Wonder Years

I mean I get it’s from a kid’s perspective but it was as much “dramedy” as comedy.

This is from someone whose formative comedy years was filled with Gilligan’s Island, Gomer Pyle and Petticoat Junction. I was a little older when All in the Family, MASH, Mary Tyler Moore came on. By the time Taxi and Barney Miller came on the scene, I was seasoned TV viewer.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 6, 2011 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Wendy is smokin hot.

New Year's Day is every man's birthday.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I was thinking of

Wires crossed.

New Year's Day is every man's birthday.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Can’t blame a man with Peffercorn on the brain.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Which show is that

image is not appearing on my screen

by bhsportsguy on Jan 6, 2011 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

The Sandlot.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jan 6, 2011 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Ban him

if you mean Winnie Cooper, you are way off my friend.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 6, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Winnie was lame. He should have stuck with the girl from the French Class

by robotmadeofnails on Jan 6, 2011 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

got your back

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 6, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I would gladly fight over this. Kevin needed to move on from Winnie ages ago. The last episode proved it. Winnie was too much drama.

by robotmadeofnails on Jan 6, 2011 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Let me clarify that as I was growing up and watching the show, I was all about Winnie. But when I went back and watched the series again, I saw the error of my ways.

by robotmadeofnails on Jan 6, 2011 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Not sure I could pick Winnie out of a lineup

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Winnie

Then and now…

It should be noted that she now writes math books or something and says smart is sexy….

That’s callback right?

by BFDC on Jan 6, 2011 2:18 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

that pic on the right has to be at least 5 years old

by delias man on Jan 6, 2011 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it was from a photoshoot for Stuff Magazine, whenever that was…

by BFDC on Jan 6, 2011 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Winnie

Her face looks like Tanya Meme——-but she is missing 2/3 of the mass-m.

by Gen3blue on Jan 6, 2011 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Who’s looking out to capture a moment
smiling at everybody she sees
who’s looking out to capture a rainbow
everyone knows its Windy

by Josie Becker on Jan 6, 2011 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

(Impressed by the Association ref)

I'm sayin' "What's in it for me?"

by iiidown on Jan 6, 2011 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, I would have bought the MASH seasons by now if it wasn’t like 300 bucks.

New Year's Day is every man's birthday.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

MASH seasons 2 through 6

or so are the ones worth buying, imho.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jan 6, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

If I buy TV seasons, I buy em all or none of them. I didn’t enjoy the Trapper years nearly as much as the BJ Honeycutt years. Also, Sherman Potter > Blake

New Year's Day is every man's birthday.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

BJ was a whiny bitch

by delias man on Jan 6, 2011 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

This will not stand

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

i am a mash fan

but he was from the bay, and I assumed he became a giant fan in 58

by delias man on Jan 6, 2011 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

oh, i gotta get back to mill valley! meg is going to have to get a job! i miss my daughter so much! fuck off.

by delias man on Jan 6, 2011 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

hah

even though there were some great later episodes (the last few seasons) the whole show got whiny like that though.
“Funny. Maudlin. Funny. Maudlin.”

We get it, war sucks!

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jan 6, 2011 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

you know how much his house is prolly worth today?

by delias man on Jan 6, 2011 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

iHawk: This isn't a war, it's a murder.

[turns switch from “maudlin” to “irreverent”]
iHawk: [imitating Groucho Marx] This isn’t a war, it’s a moider.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jan 6, 2011 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

This

Even then BJ was the right choice

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

The best were when BJ first arrived and

Frank Burns was still there. Those 2-3 seasons. I liked Potter better too but there were some hilarious early ones with Col Blake. I hate that they (ANCIENT SPOILER ALERT!) killed him off.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jan 6, 2011 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

/MASH nerdery, OFF

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jan 6, 2011 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I have had debates about this with friends

Although we can appreciate the charm of Wayne Rogers and the goofiness of McLean Stevenson, we came to the conclusion that the Hawkeye, B.J. Hunnicutt, Frank Burns era was the funniest period of the show.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 6, 2011 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I have to go the other way on this.

by delias man on Jan 6, 2011 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

This is why

we can never be friends.

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

It was the best blend of funny and a bit more serious

and totally hit its stride during that brief period, so i’d have to agree. But some of my favorites are from the period before, like the Captain Tuttle classic.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jan 6, 2011 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Its through the wonders of Nick at Night

that I was able to learn how bad of a show Full House actually was

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

How rude.

Stolen from Mike

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow, you didn’t watch it growing up?

by Michael White on Jan 6, 2011 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I did

and I liked it when I was a kid. The show is just weak when you watch it now.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Got it. Yes, I imagine it is terrible re-watching them now.

by Michael White on Jan 6, 2011 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Just like Sledgehammer. Man, that did not hold up.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Duh

Boy Meets World

New Year's Day is every man's birthday.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Winner

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

All of these guesses are way off.

by silverwidow on Jan 6, 2011 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I dunno if this is it

but I think they were airing Taxi for awhile and I spent part of my time on my sickbed this week watching Taxi reruns someone posted on YouTube, for which I am eternally grateful.

And I watched The Jeffersons (also aired on TVLand), which I may have only enjoyed because I was sick but…

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jan 6, 2011 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

is she into Yo Gaba Gaba? All future hipsters love Yo Gaba Gaba

by Josie Becker on Jan 6, 2011 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Yo Gaba Gaba is pretty awesome as kids shows go.

by OB12 on Jan 6, 2011 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Absolutley loves it

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Good Bye. Good Bye. C-ya later, it's been fun

We watch so much Yo Gabba Gabba I know the fricken words

by Jason Ungar on Jan 6, 2011 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Break it doooowwwwnnnn

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

yep he is watching it right now. took to it immediately.

by Jason Ungar on Jan 6, 2011 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I meant Dino Dan. Yo Gabs just ended. And no we don’t sit home all day but the 11 month old is asleep. Soon we are park bound..He has a strider bike and loves it

by Jason Ungar on Jan 6, 2011 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

My daughter is watching right now too.

We are going to the park in a few. She got a scooter, bicycle, and roller skates for Christmas.

3 ways to injure are enough, no?

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Wait til you hear “Daddy! It’s a Giant T-Rex” like 54 times.

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

 He’s already geared up for that new show that comes on in a few weeks

by Jason Ungar on Jan 6, 2011 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Shockingly, I have no clue of the show you’re talking about.

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Rugrats.

New Year's Day is every man's birthday.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Matt Hasselbeck is starting Saturday

Not that it matters, but just thought I’d pass it along.

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 12:49 PM PST reply actions  

With the season starting on a Thursday

the Sunday before will totally suck for roto players. Now they will have to wait three days for any feedback.

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 12:53 PM PST reply actions  

I watched Miller's Crossing for the first time last night

It was good, but not as good as I was expecting due to the opinions of various members of this blog.

by BFDC on Jan 6, 2011 1:15 PM PST reply actions  

It's not close to my fave Coen Bros

it is like a series of some great scenes but never really connected emotionally for me or was consistent enough. Some stuff they got better at later is on display there so it’s worth watching for that…

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jan 6, 2011 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Yea I agree

and the music did not fit IMO.

by BFDC on Jan 6, 2011 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Cue Nate

If the woman in this photo with Ozzie Guillen is in fact his wife and gave birth to his kids, she is a fine older woman:

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 1:16 PM PST reply actions  

i have so much to say about this picture

by delias man on Jan 6, 2011 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

White shoes after Labor Day = Fashion no no?

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

we can start there

they look very cheap for a man with money.

by delias man on Jan 6, 2011 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Not impressed with anyones shoes in that house

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

If you’re married to Ozzie Guillen, you can pull it off.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jan 6, 2011 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

his kids are such dbags.. putting players of his on blast on twitter and all the other bs shennanigans that goes on..

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jan 6, 2011 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

With Harbaugh possibly going to the NFL

it made me wonder who were some of the most successful NFL coaches who had played QB in the NFL. After thinking for a while, I mentally filtered down to naming any coaches that played QB in the NFL. I am still drawing a blank.
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Jan 6, 2011 1:18 PM PST reply actions  

Bart Starr comes to mind as a QB turned coach. Not much success though.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I always assumed QB to coach was as natural as Catcher to manager.

New Year's Day is every man's birthday.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

why couldn’t Troy shill for the better wing place. No wait, Steve Young needs to shill for BWW!

by Josie Becker on Jan 6, 2011 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

So you had ice cream

than fries, dessert before lunch

by bhsportsguy on Jan 6, 2011 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Nah, I was pretending Aikman said that.

by silverwidow on Jan 6, 2011 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

How could you forget

AFL QB “legend” – Tom Flores

by bhsportsguy on Jan 6, 2011 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I am shocked

at the lack of QB coaches.

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not that surprised really

QB’s are only intimately involved in 1/3 of the game. They don’t study much D and they never even spend their rookie seasons fighting for time on Special Teams like most defensive players.

If its true that defense wins championships, it probably helps to be grounded in D first. Its probably easier to find a good offensive coordinator to call plays from the booth.

by BFDC on Jan 6, 2011 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Its probably easier to find a good offensive coordinator to call plays from the booth.

If you let them call plays.

/Wade Phillips

New Year's Day is every man's birthday.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I recently watched the HBO “Lombardi” doc, so Starr was on my mind.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I like that Lombardi

tried to address his famous quote

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

And wasn't Sam Wyche a QB?

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jan 6, 2011 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

he’s the one who carried Frodo up the volcano

New Year's Day is every man's birthday.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Total team player

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Sam Wise is a gamer.

New Year's Day is every man's birthday.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Let him go, you filth. Let him go! You will not touch him again!

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jan 6, 2011 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

and I suppose Jason Garrett’s 8 games so far count, too.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Kubiak!

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

oh you said successful

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

so what football position

has produced the most succesful coaches?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 6, 2011 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Offensive line?

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

ha

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Ditka vs. the hurricane

who wins?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 6, 2011 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Depends

Is the hurrican named Ditka?

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

it is!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 6, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Are we talking regular Ditka, or mini Ditka?

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

You

making fun of my Ditka?

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Saturday Night Live skit

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think there is one,

I tend to think that successful football coaches get started on their coaching career fairly early because it just is so much learning involved in running a good football team.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 6, 2011 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s probably DB. Off the top of my head, Dungy and Jeff Fisher qualify, as does Tom Landry. So does Herm Edwards FWIW.

Cowher was a LB.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I wonder what Hank Stram was

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Surprisingly a running back from Purdue

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Boilermaker

one the great nick names

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Thats totally cheating

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Well

I guess no more then offensive lineman

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I wonder if QBs don’t become coaches because a) they’re wealthy enough that they don’t need to, or b) they spent too much time getting their heads beat in that they can’t function like that.

New Year's Day is every man's birthday.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Probably because they have always hated practice

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

heh, true.

New Year's Day is every man's birthday.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Not many successful ones that's for sure

Jim Zorn, Steve Spurrier, Starr, Von Brocklin, Kubiak, Garrett… that’s about it…

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jan 6, 2011 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Better then soccer

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d play, but who has three days?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jan 6, 2011 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

The United Kingdom

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Hahaha.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jan 6, 2011 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Event this weekend

Some of you might know about this already, thought I would pass it on

Of Beer and Baseball
The Culinary Historians of Southern California are back for the New Year with the story of the intertwined rise of beer and baseball in Los Angeles. Charles Perry’s talk (free; no reservations needed) will focus on a figure pivotal to both pastimes: Joseph Maier, a Bavarian immigrant who had a hand in both the Pacific League and the Maier Brewery, which closed in 1974. Mark Taper Auditorium, Downtown Central Library, 630 W. 5th St., Downtown; 323-663-5407 or chscsite.org

by wineracquet on Jan 6, 2011 1:49 PM PST reply actions  

You work with Bob,

how you associated with this? Usually stuff like this plays better as a FanShot so it does not get list in comment purgatory because in a few minutes we will have a new post and most readers will never see this.

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Live in SF

I get a bunch of food blogs from LA and SF and immediately zoned in here, thanks for the info for future. Bob is great but have only meet or followed him on line.

by wineracquet on Jan 6, 2011 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Quick informal poll

If any of you had to nominate a TBLA post of 2010, what would it be? Do any pop to mind immediately?

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 1:54 PM PST reply actions  

Something Phil wrote

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

to the archives they go

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Its hard to remember a specific comment

wish there was a way to see which ones had been rec’d the most

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

damnit

i’m an idiot
=

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

David wrote that post

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

That post got me in serious shit

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

did everybody unfollow her yet?

by delias man on Jan 6, 2011 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Re-reading it now.

After a season of Bills getting it done, you look like a genius (whereas our defense of Brox to bearface doesn’t look as good.)

Bills can’t get out of the 5th inning!!!!!

by Michael White on Jan 6, 2011 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

She

totally clipped my balls, I was not used to the person getting angry at something I wrote. Wasn’t actually used to anyone reading me outside of the membership. What started as an angry dialogue because of some misunderstandings became calmer but at the end we still had huge disagreements but I think if we met each other we’d have a civil conversation.

Writing angry did not really work for me.

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

You are such a

sweetheart in person. (No, really, he is)

by bhsportsguy on Jan 6, 2011 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

If you ever plan to go to Camelback

that be able to be arranged since I know she is going to spend a few weeks there during ST.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 6, 2011 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

It’ll be like Simmons meeting Isaiah.

by Michael White on Jan 6, 2011 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Recency error

really enjoyed the four “which free agent should the Dodgers sign” series and Brandon’s Top 200.

My favorite posts in-season are the MiLB wrapups.

I’m bad for this, I don’t remember anything pre-June.

New Year's Day is every man's birthday.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

my favorite

http://www.truebluela.com/2010/6/29/1543083/has-matt-kemp-lost-a-step#40824622

The response is my second favorite

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I did not remember

that was the post where Eric created his legacy. Cool

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey- the post was dead on

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure, but it’s not an uplifiting post.

“Remember that guy we all thought was a franchise player. Turns out, he sucks!”

/TBLA weeps.

by Michael White on Jan 6, 2011 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Whenever I think like that

I remember I’m not a DBack fan dreaming of Drew, C. Young, Reynolds, Jackson, et. al

by BFDC on Jan 6, 2011 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

“Dodgers trade Chin-lung Hu to Mets for Michael Antonini”

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Ha Ha - found this, who knew we'd have both in 2011

http://www.truebluela.com/2010/1/21/1263351/padilla-or-garland-you-make-the

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 2:01 PM PST reply actions  

http://www.truebluela.com/2010/3/1/1330191/koufax-and-torre-was-a-night-to

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 2:04 PM PST reply actions  

My 40th is April 2

McCourt can kiss my hung over Vegas ass. He ain’t getting my money. They are

by Jason Ungar on Jan 6, 2011 2:04 PM PST reply actions  

http://www.truebluela.com/2010/3/28/1394003/ronald-belisario-monopoly

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 2:12 PM PST reply actions  

You fooled me

I thought this was a new post.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 6, 2011 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I enjoy Phil getting more dismissive on any Dodger pitching prospect

as last season went on and on.

Ruddy and Kenley saved him a bit.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 6, 2011 2:21 PM PST reply actions  

heh

Kept reading this every minor league post:

“And Ethan Martin pitched, and surprise, surprise, he completely sucked again”

by BFDC on Jan 6, 2011 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

They always suck me in because they are good in April. I remember April 2009 everyone was awesome.

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Our system is scary like that right now

because if a couple of the power arms that faltered last year put it together and everyone else holds their own, our system will be looking loaded.

On the flip side, if the guys like Rubby and Sands who stepped up take a step back and the Withrow, Martin, Millers continue to slide, we will be shit.

by BFDC on Jan 6, 2011 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I had a big crush on Kenley

don’t remember being very bullish on Ruddy.

I think Eric re-assigned me from the minor league beat because my negativity was disturbing the natives. No one wanted to here about another Gordon caught stealing or error, simply that he’s fabulous and will be a star.

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

To be fair

You did pick on Gordon a lot it seemed like.

If he had a good game it was just “Withrow threw 5 innings, gave up 4 runs, Jerry Sands mashed two more home runs, and Dee Gordon chipped in with a few hits”

If he had a bad game, it was “Dee Gordon committed his 487th error and was caught stealing every time he tried (once).”

by BFDC on Jan 6, 2011 2:30 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I love the hyperbole

I hope to use that exact line this year

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I had to insert a little :)

by BFDC on Jan 6, 2011 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

You got replaced because Brandon Lennox is the hot new prospect, and you’re just the crusty old Garret Anderson.

by Tripon on Jan 6, 2011 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

So your saying I bring negative WAR to the team?

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe you’re more like Casey Blake.

by Tripon on Jan 6, 2011 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Michael

Be prepared to be disappointed

:)

by keithc13 on Jan 6, 2011 2:23 PM PST reply actions  

You could never disappoint me BFF

by Michael White on Jan 6, 2011 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Top Chef

That was a clusterfuck.

by Tripon on Jan 6, 2011 2:27 PM PST reply actions  

Winning a Prius for making a kick-ass dish in 8:37 is pretty cool.

(Haven’t seen the rest yet)

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Catching up on the thread

Having seen the “Gusher for an eye” video, I have one reaction:

Gawd, I hate my name.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Jan 6, 2011 2:36 PM PST reply actions  

http://www.truebluela.com/2010/5/6/1460569/loney-off-to-hot-start-at-home

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 2:37 PM PST reply actions  

January 6, 2011 – The Los Angeles Dodgers announced today that Opening Day has been moved to Thursday, March 31 at 5 p.m. and will be nationally televised on ESPN. The Dodgers will face their rivals, the 2010 World Champion San Francisco Giants, in a four-game series, three of which will be televised nationally or regionally.

In addition, the Friday game vs. the Giants will now start at 7:10 p.m. (originally 1:10) and the Dodgers Sleeved Blanket Giveaway will take place on Sunday, April 3rd (originally scheduled for Monday, April 4th). There is no longer a game scheduled for Monday, April 4th.

One of the games will not be televised?

by Tripon on Jan 6, 2011 2:39 PM PST reply actions  

ESPN
Prime Ticket
Fox (regionally)
ESPN

Though Fox Sports West/Prime hasn’t released their TV schedule yet.

by Alex41592 on Jan 6, 2011 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I am sure they are talking about

on broadcast or national cable stations (Fox/ESPN)

by bhsportsguy on Jan 6, 2011 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

http://www.truebluela.com/2010/6/1/1496429/ely-mania-reaches-lucky-start

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 2:40 PM PST reply actions  

Maddz

Tennessee just got cooler, she said she landed, got no numbers but did meet someone in sports entertainment

New Year's Day is every man's birthday.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 2:40 PM PST reply actions  

The Undertaker?

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jan 6, 2011 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Looking at their live schedule WWE is in Tennessee this Sunday.

by Alex41592 on Jan 6, 2011 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Great Bruin

You don’t hear about many or any active professional athletes moving back to an on-campus dorm to complete his degree but ATV just did.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 6, 2011 2:42 PM PST reply actions  

He missed the college girls

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

because it’s SoCal girls not NorCal girls.

New Year's Day is every man's birthday.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

http://www.truebluela.com/2010/6/30/1545978/kemp-a-white-hot-furcal-sweep-away

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 2:44 PM PST reply actions  

This one is the winner.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Jan 6, 2011 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

how do we not remember that till now?

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Man, I still can’t read it

by robotmadeofnails on Jan 6, 2011 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Quality Start for Bills.

by silverwidow on Jan 6, 2011 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

For the 20th straight start, Billingsley did not record an out in the seventh inning, but I foolishly predicted he would, so tonight’s game recap is in pig latin.

It’s right there. : )

by Alex41592 on Jan 6, 2011 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

How could I miss that?

by Michael White on Jan 6, 2011 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Reading through these old posts, it reminds me how much the offseason sucks.

It’ll be nice to have games to watch every night.

by Michael White on Jan 6, 2011 3:03 PM PST reply actions  

Reading through these old posts

you get some gems:

We are replacing Manny with an Xavier Paul platoon next year? Yikes! Well, atleast that will take some pressure off of us not having an Ace, as the MSM will be griping about something else.
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Apr 6, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 3:15 PM PST reply actions  

Dan Uggla's 5/$62m contract details

per Atlanta Journal-Constitution:

$1 million signing bonus
2011: $9 million
2012: $13 million
2013: $13 million
2014: $13 million
2015: $13 million

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 3:38 PM PST reply actions  

talking about the NL West on Hot Stove (with Larry Bowa)

things they said about the Dodgers,

Matt Kemp should move to a corner OF
Loney and Ethier suck against LHP (Bowa thinks they are capable of better)
Deep Pitching
Broxton needs to come back (Bowa mentioned “deer in headlights” look, and basically said Torre lost faith in him.)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 6, 2011 3:39 PM PST reply actions  

oh

and Furcal is also a big key

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 6, 2011 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Zero insight right there.

by silverwidow on Jan 6, 2011 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

agreed

nothing that hasn’t been said her

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 6, 2011 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

here

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 6, 2011 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

he specifically said

Matt Kemp is a corner outfielder

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 6, 2011 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Move over Kemp

Here comes T-Rob after Gwynn Jr. shits himself over and over.

by BFDC on Jan 6, 2011 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

FTFY

Loney just sucks and Ethier sucks against LHP (Bowa thinks they are capable of better)

by BFDC on Jan 6, 2011 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

1) He’s right
2) He’s right
3) He’s right
4) Meh. Kuo is a better pitcher and has been a better pitcher (no shame in that.) I’m not gung ho that Broxton should be the closer next year. Kuo has held up for a while and what they were doing at the end of the year seemed to make sense.

by Michael White on Jan 6, 2011 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

i should also say

with the exception of the Ethier/Loney vs. LHP thing, everything else was said first by others and Bowa just agreed. Harold Reynolds said he felt Kemp could be a superstar, just not in Center.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 6, 2011 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Would you offer Kuo 4/14 this year knowing full well his arm will explode at any given time?

by Tripon on Jan 6, 2011 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Nope

why woud you need to do that.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 6, 2011 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Buys out 2 years of free agency at a reasonable rate.

by silverwidow on Jan 6, 2011 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

To buy out two years of FA at a bargain based price. And considering Kuo is likely to make around 6 million next year alone if he arm doesn’t fall out.

by Tripon on Jan 6, 2011 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Not if he’s not closer.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Eric projects Kuo making about

2.5 or so, unless he saves a ton a games, he isn’t going to get that big of a raise and I think with his injury history, you can’t go more than one year at a time with him.

I also think Kuo is someone who would continue to re up with the Dodgers since they know his medical history so well.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 6, 2011 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

The team isn’t that sentimental about letting go players with injuries, considering Jayson Werth, Russell Martin, and Saito though.

by Tripon on Jan 6, 2011 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Nope

it is a business, that cuts both ways.

See Darren Dreifort, Jason Schmidt and Nomar, those guys are not returning money despite missing time due to injuries.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 6, 2011 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s a reliever so no.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jan 6, 2011 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Honest question, not directed at you necessarily

After 2003, how long of a contract would you have offered Gagne?

Ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd have

traded him in the fall of 2004 and stated so at the time so this is not hindsight. My love of Depo took a huge hit when he gave contracts to both Gagne and Izzy instead of trading them at the height of their value. I was told I was crazy and that no one could trade Gagne, that he’d be eaten alive by the press. He was eaten alive anyway. You do what is best for the team not what the press thinks is best. JMO

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

especially at that time. Even now closers are overvalued, but then it was crazy.

Ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 4:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I felt if anyone

understood how overvalued closers were it would have been Depo. Then again I thought we’d be able to count on GhameOver and that did not work out very well either.

Depo’s biggest mistake however was not giving them contracts but giving Jim Tracy one more year and not bring in his own manager. Sure he’d have been flamed but the press already hated him, so giving them more coal was not a big deal.

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Kuo is a better pitcher and has been a better pitcher (no shame in that.) I’m not gung ho that Broxton should be the closer next year. Kuo has held up for a while and what they were doing at the end of the year seemed to make sense.

I neither agree nor disagree, but I’d like to add a point of view. Broxton will be handed high-leverage innings next year, at least to start the season, and the Dodgers will be a better team if he makes the most of those opportunities. If he flails like he did in the second half of last year, he’ll lose that job. The Dodgers have Kuo and Jansen waiting in the wings, so maybe everything will be OK, but with a team that will be operating on such thin margins, it would be much better to have this go their way.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Jan 6, 2011 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

The Broxton thing feels like the Brad Lidge deal a couple years ago

granted, one was from overuse and the other seemed to be a case of shell-shock, but the bottom line is this:

He’ll be fine.

New Year's Day is every man's birthday.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I believe as in most things Ned or coaches say about the players

It is not as if they are wrong in their analysis, some just believe they should not say anything at all.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 6, 2011 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Bowa is no longer a coach, just a citizen.

Not to rehash the argument from last year, but Ned being right or wrong was a secondary issue for me.

by Michael White on Jan 6, 2011 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Bowa is also trying to get hired by another team. I look at those comments, his history of always speaking his mind, and his inability to be an effective 3rd base coach, and I can’t think he’s a fit on any ML coaching staff.

Did Larry Bowa’s mouth really cost himself a job? I don’t know, but I’m sure it doesn’t help.

by Tripon on Jan 6, 2011 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I doubt it

he is who they thought he were.

It’s more likely that there isn’t a spot on a MLB bench for him because it’s January than because he’s Larry Bowa.

Ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I think people know what they get when they hire Bowa. He’ll eventually get hired by someone. Maybe not for 2011, but some team will want to stir things up by bringing him in.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

It would not surprise me if

75% of active MLB coaches would not feel the same as Bowa does about that stuff. A

by bhsportsguy on Jan 6, 2011 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I realize that

and we disagree about that particular issue.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 6, 2011 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

that part

is about to come on again, for anyone watching.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 6, 2011 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Can player options be exercised if he’s on the 60-day DL permanently?

by silverwidow on Jan 6, 2011 4:18 PM PST reply actions  

If he starts the year on the 60-day DL

and never gets assigned to the minor league team, then no option is used.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 6, 2011 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Not minor league options, player options built into a contract.

by silverwidow on Jan 6, 2011 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Are you asking

if player A as a player option for the next year and it is not dependent on anything he has to do like reach a certain number of games played, innings pitched, etc., then yes, sure he could sit on the DL all year and take his option.

For a team option, they could do the same thing.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 6, 2011 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure. A player’s option is part of a valid contract.

by Tripon on Jan 6, 2011 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

But is it ethical if the dude can no longer play?

by silverwidow on Jan 6, 2011 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

You can do it, but it’s generally seen as a dick move. I remember the A’s doing it to Brad Halsey and he was not happy.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jan 6, 2011 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I think he means, if a player is out for the year should he get to exercise his player option.

No?

Ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah, got it. Hell yeah he should.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jan 6, 2011 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

If it was a team option would he get it if he was hurt all year? Nope. So screw them.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jan 6, 2011 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Only if they planned on trading him, I suppose. But then in SW’s example, I don’t think you can trade players on the DL.

Ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I seem to remember a couple of times that happened though. A team picking up an injured player option year because they believe he’d be healthy the next year.

by Tripon on Jan 6, 2011 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Absolutely

The teams knew what it was getting into when the contract was signed.

Player options are almost always injury insurance anyway, so no biggie.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Free rehab!

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

The Keith Richards Clause?

Ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes

the team knew what they were getting when they gave the guy a contract based on past performance. He earned that money, he deserves it because his MLB team says he does when they offered him the deal.

Ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Jeez

did I do a terrible enough job at explaining myself?

Ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

You did fine. That is the answer I would have given.

If you don’t want to pay a guy if he gets injured, you have two choices: you can either not hire the guy at all, or you can own an NFL team instead.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Jan 6, 2011 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Option c would be to buyout the rest of the contract.

by Tripon on Jan 6, 2011 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

But that wouldn’t be as snarky.

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Jan 6, 2011 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Snark begets snark

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually, I don’t know how much option c would be available since the MLBPA would try to inject themselves in any contract like that. They won’t allow it on performance, (Andruw Jones and the Dodgers), but seem to allow it if the player committed a criminal offense, (Sidney Ponson and the O’s). And even then the O’s didn’t save much money.

by Tripon on Jan 6, 2011 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

You know they build guaranteed money into NFL contracts right?

and is often a bigger sticking point in negotiations then overall worth?

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

As bhsportsguy pointed up above. Its a business. And player options were designed to protect the player in event of injury or a bad contract year.

by Tripon on Jan 6, 2011 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

There is no DL in the offseason, or at least the times options would be exercised.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Man v. Food is a guilty pleasure, but I always wonder what would possess certain women to, during the eating challenge in question, give Adam a kiss. Seems gross.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 4:29 PM PST reply actions  

Attention whores

male, female, they be everywhere.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

There will always be groupies for famous people.

I can believe there are people on this earth that would sleep with Andrew Zimmerman. Why, I don’t know, but I can believe that.

by Tripon on Jan 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

everyone needs loving, sometimes

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

You do know

that Zimmerman is married with a son.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 6, 2011 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

That doesn’t not make him one of the less attractive people on TV.

by Tripon on Jan 6, 2011 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Triple negative? At least two and a half! :)

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm going to say he is pretty far from the bottom

he really just looks like a normal somewhat heavyset dude to me.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Is it ok to make fun of people

with brain damage now ;)

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey, there was a South park ep.

by Tripon on Jan 6, 2011 4:43 PM PST up reply actions  

The ugliest man on television is easily Lisa Lampanelli

Ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought Rosy O'Donnel was on the view

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 4:43 PM PST up reply actions  

O’Donnell left the View last year.

by Tripon on Jan 6, 2011 4:44 PM PST up reply actions  

i went there, decided it was too easy

Ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Seems like a fun dude who gets to travel a lot. He’s bringing something to the table.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jan 6, 2011 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Zimmerman’s turns into a douchebag when he eats something he doesn’t like though.

by Tripon on Jan 6, 2011 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Why don't baseball players ever threaten to hold out

unless they get a better contract? Is the hope of arbitration that great?

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 4:39 PM PST reply actions  

In what situation would they hold out

basically, if they are tendered a contract from year 4-6, they can go through arbitration but they basically have a contract. From years 1-3, the teams don’t even have to talk to them, they just renew their deal with whatever increases are mandated.

Most likely, they will just show up late to Spring Training but they really have no leverage to hold out.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 6, 2011 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

NFL players hold out after their first year or two all the time

even though they are under contract for the next year

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 4:44 PM PST up reply actions  

There isn’t a minor league system in the NFL though.

If a baseball player threatens to hold out, especially a young player, they can just option to the minors, and call somebody else up.

by Tripon on Jan 6, 2011 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

They actually do have the practice squad

but do you think its as simple as calling someone up from the practice squad to replace a Fielder or a Kershaw?

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Practice squad means they have to clear waivers though, right?

It’s like DFAing the player and then outrighting them to the minors.

by Michael White on Jan 6, 2011 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

That is true

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

From the minors? Sure. They did it for Chad Billingsley when he got injured. I’m not sure why it would be different from losing a player from injury, he’s not on the team anymore for some reason.

Bartolo Colon has a habit of leaving teams when he loses his starting job. Do you see the teams he leave scramble to fill the spot? They just call up a reliever instead.

by Tripon on Jan 6, 2011 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not talking about an injured or past his prime player

I’m talking about a young guy who is one of the best players on the team who feels he should be payed more.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s little incentive for him to do that then. The main issue to getting his money is accruing service time to reach free agency, and the only way to get that is to play on a ML team. There have been players not happy getting a smaller amount in arb than they thought they should get, but it seems to blow over fast.

by Tripon on Jan 6, 2011 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

The game

it to eat up that service time. You do get the BJ Uptons who knew the Rays were sitting on his clock and complained about it. I think we see more prima donna minor leaguers who know they are ready for the big leagues and upset they don’t get to start the clock then actual major leaguers complaining.

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m calling B.S. on the Bartolo Colon line. And it’s not relevant to this discussion anyway.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I only brought up Colon because he's one of the few that has tried to do this.
On September 19, 2008, Colón was placed on the suspended list by the Red Sox after leaving for the Dominican Republic to handle “personal matters” and deciding to stay, effectively ending his Red Sox career.8 Colón was placed on the restricted list on September 25, 2008. He filed for free agency after the end of the 2008 season.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartolo_Col%C3%B3n

Has anyone seen Bartolo Colon? If you have, please call the Chicago White Sox.

The former Red Sox pitcher is on the disabled list. He is scheduled to be making a rehab start for Charlotte Thursday, but the ChiSox do not know where he is.

“I know where he is supposed to be right now. He’s supposed to be in Charlotte, preparing to start Thursday,” White Sox GM Ken Williams said Tuesday, according to the Chicago Tribune. “Efforts to contact his agent have been successful. Their efforts to contact their client have not been so successful.”

http://soxblog.projo.com/2009/07/white-sox-searc.html

by Tripon on Jan 6, 2011 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes they do

but it is pretty well accepted that your expected career length is short in the NFL and most of the money is tied up in signing bonuses since rarely do players get the actual total worth of a contract.

Clayton Kershaw could decide he thinks it unfair for him to make 20 times less than some of his pitching mates but he would have no standing in any court since the Dodgers did nothing but follow the terms of the CBA.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 6, 2011 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

NFL players get fined like crazy

if they don’t show up for camp. I’m not seeing how its any different for baseball players.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

NoLander

misses the old days before he was born when the only leverage the player had was to hold out.

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Curt opened the Flood gates

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm just surprised that it seemingly never happens in baseball

but happens all the time in football.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I am not in any way a fan of it

just curious

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Baseball players know they have the strongest union in the world.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Da World

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Now I want a Snickers

Oh, who am I kidding, I always want a Snickers.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Careers are longer in baseball, on average, than in football. It’s easier to bide your time.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I figure thats most of it

but I cannot name one time a baseball player attempted to force a team to give him a contract before arbitration. Maybe if he is good enough to try to force such a thing, the team would offer him a good enough contract to shut him up?

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

The Phillies bent over for Ryan Howard, giving him $900,000 in 2007 with under two years of service time.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

thanks

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Which set up the arbitration award

that reg was certain would ruin baseball for the foreseeable future.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 6, 2011 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

it has

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Did Tim Lincecum save baseball then when he accepted a way below settlement figure last year? :)

by Tripon on Jan 6, 2011 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I will contend until the day I die Lincecum fucked up big time last winter. He had the hammer of all hammers, and didn’t use it.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Assuming

the goal is to get the most money. I applaud the Lincecums and Longoria’s of the world. Fucked up is just using your own value on what he wanted.

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe

by not taking the Giants for everything he could he enabled his team whose goal was to win a World Championship some financial flexibility for the oncoming season. You don’t really know why he chose the path he chose. I think your being extreme, Lincecum might simply be a long term thinker.

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

It would have been interesting to see that award

and it would not have been a good comp unless another pitcher wins two Cy Youngs before his first arbitration.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 6, 2011 5:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Clayton best get started

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Clayton has 43 fewer days service time than Lincecum did when he already won two CYA.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Like I said

he best get started.

Actually I’d prefer he sign a long term deal now and buy out two free agent years and then win a couple of Cy Youngs. Because if he wins two Cy Youngs in the next two years without that deal, he be long gone.

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 5:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Partial quote post above here

Insert negative nelly comment about the future here

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Jan 6, 2011 5:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Insert chastise from delias man here

Now with 33% more Kavula

by Humma Kavula on Jan 6, 2011 5:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Really

I don’t the see Howard award as a precedent for other players. In fact a lot of teams have foreclosed that by signing some guys who would have tested the arbitration system like going back a few years to David Wright and Chase Utley, to Evan Longoria, Tulo, Justin Upton.

Lincecum could have broken the record but he settled before the hearing.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 6, 2011 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s always an Arquillian battle cruiser, or a Corellian death ray, or an intergalactic plague about to wipe out all life on this miserable little planet. The only way these people can get on with their happy lives is that they DO. NOT. KNOW ABOUT IT.
— Agent K, Men In Black

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

When James Loney makes slightly less than Miguel Cabrera in his first year of arb…

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jan 6, 2011 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah

but then you just don’t like the arbitration process.

It is a system that totally benefits the players, almost no way a player does not get a raise each year but it does keep most deals comparable on a year to year to basis

by bhsportsguy on Jan 6, 2011 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Wait a minute

Cabrera won his arbitration case in his first year of arb, and made $7.4 million (in 2007).

Loney made $3.1 million in his first year of arb.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, thought it was five.

I just remember Howard getting a lot more than Cabrera.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jan 6, 2011 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Miggy HOF

Loney – HOS

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 5:08 PM PST up reply actions  

The union would frown on it

as everyone has said, they have an incredible gig and will quickly be overpaid, so being underpaid for just a few short years is not big deal. Young players grumble all the time when they are renewed without proper raises, and management must realize when they do so, they may be hurting there long term case to keep the player home.

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Oliver Perez did, he didn’t get it, and decided to get back at the Pirates by getting fat.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jan 6, 2011 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Never trust an OP

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

That is a left handed pitcher

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Baseball is more of a cerebral game

$400k > $0

Also, I think it’s just more generally accepted that you get dicked for the first six years to earn your right to name your price as a free agent.

Ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.

by G.Scott on Jan 6, 2011 4:43 PM PST up reply actions  

To be clear

I hate holdouts with the passion of a thousand suns.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Because it makes the team you root for worse.

by Michael White on Jan 6, 2011 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

and a lot of times is done after a player has barely established themselves in the leage

its just annoying as hell.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

i.e. Vincent Jackson and the Chargers sitting at home this weekend

by Eric Stephen on Jan 6, 2011 5:00 PM PST up reply actions  

You forgot their LT

he is kinda important too

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late."

by nolander on Jan 6, 2011 5:39 PM PST up reply actions  

are those burnt out suns

because i’m told they are quite passionless

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

NPUT

http://www.truebluela.com/2011/1/6/1910450/dodgers-minor-league-countdown-120-111

We be getting closer to relevancy but we got a long way to go

"Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events. "

by meercatjohn on Jan 6, 2011 5:04 PM PST reply actions  

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