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2011 Dodgers Exit Interviews: Catchers

Now that the starting pitchers are out of the way, it's time to turn our 2011 review attention to their battery mates. The Dodgers used five backstops this season with three catchers starting 156 of the 161 games, led by Rod Barajas.

Dodgers catchers were third in the National League with 23 home runs this season, but they were 13th out of 16 teams with a .227 batting average and .305 on-base percentage. Here is a look back at the Dodgers' catching corps in 2011:

Rod Barajas

What went right: In August, Barajas turned on the power, hitting .357/.403/.750 with six home runs and 19 RBI in 18 games. On the season, Barajas hit 16 home runs, which was second on the team behind Matt Kemp's league-leading 39 bombs.

What went wrong: Barajas made outs in bulk, as his .287 on-base percentage ranked 22nd among the 28 major league catchers who caught at least 80 games in 2011. But this was expected from Barajas, who came into the year a career .239/.284/.412 hitter and was right in line with that, hitting .230/.287/.430 on the year.

2012 status: The pancake man is a free agent, and while he could return to his hometown team don't expect the Dodgers to pay him another $3.25 million. Ned Colletti said in an interview with Jim Bowden of ESPN last week that the Dodgers in 2012 will "probably let Tim Federowicz and A.J. Ellis handle the duties," but that could just be posturing by Colletti.

 

A.J. Ellis

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What went right: Ellis continued to get on base -- he had a .392 OBP in 103 major league plate appearances and a .467 OBP in 248 minor league PA -- but also turned on the power in 2011. He broke a drought of nearly three years without a home run by hitting two with Triple A Albuquerque in July and two more with the Dodgers, his first two major league taters. The 30-year old Ellis has a career .360 OBP in 244 major league PA.

What went wrong: Ellis got thrown out trying to steal second base with an 8-1 lead in the fifth inning at Wrigley Field on April 22. It is the only stolen base attempt in his major league career.

2012 status: Ellis is out of options, and will almost certainly start 2012 on the major league team. Whether he is the backup or the primary backstop remains to be seen.

Star-divide

 

Tim Federowicz

What went right: Federowicz got a cup of coffee with the Dodgers in September, and reached base in five of his first eight major league plate appearances. After hitting four home runs in 109 games in High A in 2010 and hitting eight home runs in 90 games in Double A this season, Federowicz welcomed his promotion to Triple A upon his trade to the Dodgers on July 31 by hitting six home runs in just 25 games in the Pacific Coast League.

What went wrong: Yes, Federowicz hit .325/.431/.607 in his first 25 games in Triple A, but it's important to note that he hit .405/.500/.857 in Albuquerque and just .231/.333/.385 on the road. Small sample sizes apply, so take with a grain of salt. Hat tip to Minor League Central.

2012 status: The 24-year old catcher is thought to be major league ready defensively, and there is a decent chance he ends up splitting time with A.J. Ellis if the Dodgers decide to save money at catcher next year.

 

Dioner Navarro

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What went right: Navarro didn't get many hits, but he did make a few of them count. He drove in the lone run of three different 1-0 victories in 2011, joining Gary Sheffield as the only Los Angeles Dodgers ever to do that. Two of those RBI for Navarro were home runs, including a splash hit into McCovey Cove on July 20, the only run in a classic duel between Clayton Kershaw and Tim Lincecum.

In 202 plate appearances, Navarro hit five home runs, which tied him for fifth on the club.

What went wrong: Navarro hit just .212/.263/.306 in 2009 and 2010 combined, and he continued on that path in 2011, hitting .193/.276/.324 in 2011. Why the Dodgers guaranteed Navarro $1 million after two putrid seasons is puzzling to say the least, and their offer even surprised Navarro. In April, Curt Hitchens of Seamheads.com caught up with Navarro while the catcher was on a rehab assignment in Chattanooga with the Double A lookouts:

Hitchens: "What is it about L.A. that appealed to you?"

Navarro: "Money." [laughs] "They offered me a good contract and I jumped on it."

2011 departure: By August 23, the Dodgers finally had enough of Navarro, and designated him for assignment, citing "philosophical differences." 

 

Hector Gimenez

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What went right: Gimenez parlayed a hot streak late in spring training into his first opening day roster spot. His stay was short as he hit the disabled list after just 10 days, but he did manage to start a major league game for the first time, and amassed seven plate appearances, which is about seven more than anyone would have guessed before spring training. Gimenez collected his first major league hit, a single to left field against Javier Lopez of the Giants, on April 2.

What went wrong: He missed two months after undergoing right knee surgery, and upon he activation from the disabled list the Dodgers outrighted him to Double A, removing him from the 40-man roster.

2011 departure: The 29-year old Gimenez opted for free agency last week, per Baseball America.

The Ellis, Navarro, and Gimenez photos are courtesy of Getty Images.

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I assume that Ned is posturing, but given the weak fleet of catchers out there, what are the odds that Barajas could get 3 mil elsewhere?

"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."

by Little Blue Bicycle on Oct 10, 2011 7:20 AM PDT reply actions  

$3MM seems high for him

If the Dodgers could get him down to $1MM (what they paid Navarro and Ausmus) I think he could stay. Otherwise, I think Ned is serious and will let two guys making the major league minimum handle the catching duties.

by Michael White on Oct 10, 2011 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

And I hope so

Paying Barajas and Navarro a combined 4.25M was crazy

I will miss saying ROBAR!!!!!!!!

by keithc13 on Oct 10, 2011 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just want to see more of the Big Momma act with Dee. Pay him.

by delias man on Oct 10, 2011 8:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Im not that big a fan of that shit

by keithc13 on Oct 10, 2011 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

you're no fun

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 10, 2011 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

True dat.

I’ve got my 20 year HS reunion this weekend.

Not looking forward to it

by keithc13 on Oct 10, 2011 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

who goes to HS reunions anyways? don’t go.

by delias man on Oct 10, 2011 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

I skipped the 10 yr.

I’ve committed to this one

by keithc13 on Oct 10, 2011 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

wow

my 10 year will be next year.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 10, 2011 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I got mine this month

graduated in 2001. They are doing a high school football game and a get together at a bar/restaurant. Gotta pay 60 dollars for the bar/rest. EFF that. Thank god for facebook too. At least I get to see the people going so I don’t waste my time and money.

by Dodgerblue8188 on Oct 10, 2011 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not really.

One of my really good friends is organizing the enitre fiasco.

I committed to him

by keithc13 on Oct 10, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I went to my 30th 8 years ago.

I’d probably go to my 40th. If for no other reason than to see who survived.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 10, 2011 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Marty at his 40th

“oh, shit you? I guess it’s true, only the assholes get old”

by Hollywood Joe on Oct 10, 2011 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know you hate Billy Joel

but this fits in perfectly with “Only the good die young.”

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t hate Billy Joel

I don’t listen to him, but I get what the old ladies like

by Hollywood Joe on Oct 10, 2011 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

A tired-eyed troll that somehow got Christie Brinkley?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 10, 2011 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

We had a dead board

at the 30th, with pictures of those who didn’t have the grittiness to make it that long. It was morbidly fascinating.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 10, 2011 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve got my 10 year this weekend. I didn’t plan on going.

by Michael White on Oct 10, 2011 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was in Seattle the weekend of my 10th HS reunion. Same day as the Steve Finley grand slam.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I went to my 10-year, which was the same year the Dodgers last won the World Series though I don’t remember exactly what date the reunion was, but not another since. Maybe I’ll go back after the Dodgers win another one.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 10, 2011 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

That seems like a strong policy.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder if reunions will become a product of a bygone era before I’m dead. In this day and age especially, it’s not all that hard to find someone if you really want to be in contact, plus there’s always those people that you never want to see again at least some of whom I imagine always end up at reunions.

My wife has never attended a HS reunion. Her take on it is she’s still in touch with everyone she still wants to be in touch with; what does she need to go to the reunion for?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 10, 2011 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am in her camp. I am still friends with several people from high school and see them outside of reunions. Though it might be nice to go eventually.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I think the internet is cutting back. There are a lot of people on my facebook friend list that I am interested in keeping in touch with but not really a big deal to hang out with them.

I could see it being a little different if I had no idea what they were doing and where they lived now.

by Dodgerblue8188 on Oct 10, 2011 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

thats my take

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 10, 2011 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

My cousin got married in NorCal the same day as my 10-year. I might have gone otherwise.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 10, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Captured for all of time


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 10, 2011 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

He sure seemed to love playing in L.A. I think he’d probably sign for a small hometown discount, but he does have like 8 kids to feed. If the market is something like $2M and the Dodgers went $1.8, I wouldn’t mind seeing him back.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 10, 2011 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I bet Phil is so pissed about Gimenez getting away

by keithc13 on Oct 10, 2011 8:05 AM PDT reply actions  

hey delias man

you buying any of this talk of the Raiders moving back to LA?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 10, 2011 8:11 AM PDT reply actions  

i always said they were coming back. not that i am really rooting for it, but it makes a lot of sense for a lot of reasons.

by delias man on Oct 10, 2011 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

The 49ers should move here.

by G.Scott on Oct 10, 2011 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

the only team that “Should” move from their current location is Jacksonville

by delias man on Oct 10, 2011 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck Jacksonville

They’re dead to me

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 10, 2011 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

But their owner has them locked into a lease that doesn’t end until something like 2027.

by fbihop on Oct 10, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

He also is really committed to the area. Weaver is 100% against leaving Jacksonville and if you look at attendance numbers there are 6 teams with attendance figures. Hell, Cincinnati is averaging over 19,000 less fans than Jacksonville (per game this year).

by VegasBlues on Oct 10, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Arizona was fun, K3vo remains awesome, and fuck the NY Football Giants.

Also, I do believe Ned is considering saving money by starting Jerry, Dee, Tim, AJ, and Justin to save money for a hitter, and of the Angels, Rockies, A’s and Diamondbacks, the Rockies have the nicest spring training fields to play on.

by G.Scott on Oct 10, 2011 8:12 AM PDT reply actions  

No need to fuck anybody. You all essentially survived for a week anyway.

by Michael White on Oct 10, 2011 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I saw, but as I was driving home yesterday I heard the news and couldn’t believe it. Also, Al Davis dying…eventful weekend.

by G.Scott on Oct 10, 2011 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

It was crazy. There was a point where I thought Marty was going to win the contest outright before the late games even kicked off (then Jacksonville blew it too.)

by Michael White on Oct 10, 2011 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

so, did any of our guys wow you?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 10, 2011 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn’t get to see any of the AFL games unfortunately. I played 6 games in 3 days and the AFL games were all played during my games. Mad did catch a game at Salt River stadium though while I was playing on a back field.

by G.Scott on Oct 10, 2011 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

I still haven’t seen footage of the 90-yard interception return.

All I knew of that game was the score and relative field position from the bottom line as I watched the Raiders nearly give away the game against the Texans, and I was happy when the Giants were on (I believe) the 5 yard line, needing a touchdown for the win. Next thing I know Seattle scored and I thought I was done for in the survivor pool, not realizing that everyone picked a loser yesterday.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

The 90 yard interception: Slant route to Cruz, Cruz trips on the field turf, ball hits Cruz in the hands as he falls, ball pops up in the air and the Seattle DB catches it, runs the other way.

by Michael White on Oct 10, 2011 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just a flukish play. The worst thing was the Giants were on the 2 yard line and then there was an illegal motion penalty which ended up being killer. No penalty, the Giants try to run it in, penalty (with the clock winding down) and now it’s a pass situation.

by Michael White on Oct 10, 2011 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

sounds like Minnesota-Green Bay a few years ago where the Packers grabbed the ball because it never actually hit the ground after rolling around on the Vikings receiver. Or am I misremembering?

by G.Scott on Oct 10, 2011 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

it was a fair while ago

I kind of hate plays like that. Makes me think of the Auburn Oregon game where the guy seemed to be down so the defenders let up so they wouldn’t get a flag, then boom, huge gain, game decided on a fluke play.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 10, 2011 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

All I was thinking, not knowing when the play happened, was that if the Giants were on the 5, Eli tried some ill-fated pass in the flat and the cornerback jumped it. The play was fascinating in my mind.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

and all most people will do

is see eili threw some picks not knowing any context and start ranting about him being a choker.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 10, 2011 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Down 17-2 with 1 out in the 9th inning, I made the second out at home trying to score from second on a passed ball. I had rounded third before the catcher knew where the ball was and thought I could make it.

I had visions of Kirk Gibson, but ran like James Loney.

by G.Scott on Oct 10, 2011 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Like The Boss once said, “You can’t start a fire without a spark.”

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was thinking more “Glory Days”

by G.Scott on Oct 10, 2011 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

too bad you weren't

Born to Run

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 10, 2011 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

It was a Wreck on the Highway

by G.Scott on Oct 10, 2011 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hustle Out needs to be a stat.

by kinbote on Oct 10, 2011 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hope Maddz yelled out, “TOOTBLAN!”


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 10, 2011 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

She and K3vo had front row seats for that TOOTBLAN.

by G.Scott on Oct 10, 2011 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Made you look like a fool, boy.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

exactly. I was only at the edge of the home plate circle when the the pitcher got the ball, so as I started to slide i decided to try to step over his glove instead and it ended with me landing knees first and rolling. Definitely worse than just being out.

by G.Scott on Oct 10, 2011 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, I made an out at the plate too yesterday! Was going to score from second on a line drive to short left but ate shit on the wet grass rounding 3rd. Landed in an ungraceful heap.

Got caught in a rundown, was able to avoid the tag, and slide in safe at home…..

……..

and then, after the other team bitched about it, did they called me out of the baseline. total horseshit

all I got for my pleasure is a big swollen black and blue knee

by Hollywood Joe on Oct 10, 2011 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

I still wonder why Bruce sang “speedball” instead of “fastball”. The only meaning for speedball I know is the mixture of heroin and cocaine.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 10, 2011 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

it’s also a quick game of paintball

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 10, 2011 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Paintball seems like something ideally played while under the influence of both heroin and cocaine.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 10, 2011 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

i could see that

though I did have fun doing it sober.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 10, 2011 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I probably would have loved it at 15, but I am getting too old for that shit. I am supposed to spend some time Saturday trying sporting clays for the first time, which is probably more my speed now, and will attempt it sans speedball. I have fired probably less than ten rounds ever from a shotgun. I wonder what the odds are that I hit none of the clay pigeons.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 10, 2011 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

point at the front edge of the pigeons, “Pull!”, exhale half breath, hold breath, fire. Enjoy.

by G.Scott on Oct 10, 2011 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I also have to see if my shoulder will withstand 20 recoils. My 77-year old dad is coming too though, and if he can do it….


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 10, 2011 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Grab the 20 gauge, tell everyone it’s a 12, aim a bit further out in front :)

by G.Scott on Oct 10, 2011 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

20 gauges generally kick more than 12 gauges. Lighter the gun, larger the recoil

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 10, 2011 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 10, 2011 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have killed

many clay pigeons. But not for 30 years

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 10, 2011 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

The sporting clays seem interesting, walking from station to station, each with its own setup. The website called it golf with shotguns. I just don’t want to hear anyone shouting, “FORE!”


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 10, 2011 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Sporting Clays sounds like some new-age cooked up name

In my day it was either trap shooting or skeet shooting. And we liked it.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 10, 2011 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I really enjoy high house/low house

by G.Scott on Oct 10, 2011 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

We have a guy that has multiple car dealerships here named Daryl Teeter.

He’s in his 80’s.

He rambles incoherently in his commercials. In one of them, he talks about being in high school and throwing a 95 MPH Speed Ball.

LOL

by keithc13 on Oct 10, 2011 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Please tell me he used to do commercials while sitting on a see-saw.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 10, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not true.

They are mostly radio commercials.

by keithc13 on Oct 10, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

What a missed opportunity.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 10, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know.

I googled him and can only find articles about him starting dealerships and churches.

by keithc13 on Oct 10, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

LG’s Prime Steakhouse had some classic commercials in San Diego, with LG himself wearing a uniform of some sort. In one commercial, he hit a home run out of Minute Maid Park, and in another commercial he threw a football (better form than Tim Tebow BTW). Both classics, both I cannot find on YouTube.

The baseball one was so good I had it saved on my DVR for over two years when I was in San Diego.

The old man died a few years back, but the commercials go on. Not as epic, but still pretty funny.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Love local commercials

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

- Eric Stephenovich


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 10, 2011 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s in the white pages.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 10, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

you should look up cal worthington on youtube

by delias man on Oct 10, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

We’ll have to send G.Scott out to scout him. :)

by Xeifrank on Oct 10, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

He has an Inverted AARP

by G.Scott on Oct 10, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Did you skip over the relief pitchers? I saw your post on the starters.. did i miss the bullpen one?

by Lincoln Kupchak on Oct 10, 2011 8:18 AM PDT reply actions  

No, you didn't

I added the word “starting” in the first sentence. Thanks.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 10, 2011 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Loved this
What went wrong: Ellis got thrown out trying to steal second base with an 8-1 lead in the fifth inning at Wrigley Field on April 22. It is the only stolen base attempt in his major league career.

by kinbote on Oct 10, 2011 8:31 AM PDT reply actions  

Ya, I thought that was funny too.

by Michael White on Oct 10, 2011 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

For the record

I think we will re-sign Barajas.
I think we should just go with Ellis/Fed (to save money for other positions).
The fact that Barajas’s Dee-cuddle is the main reason I’m on the fence is probably not good.

by kinbote on Oct 10, 2011 8:39 AM PDT reply actions  

First rule: never bet on Barajas
Second rule: don’t bet on Barajas twice.

At this point AJ Ellis has 250 PA and a .360 on base. He’d probably be a disaster as the starter but so would Barajas.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Oct 10, 2011 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

and FedEx?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 10, 2011 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah FedEx or someone completely disposable. Is Paul Bako alive?

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Oct 10, 2011 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

so essentialy

you don’t give a shit about catcher offense. or not much of one.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 10, 2011 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think our best hope for catcher offense comes from AJ Ellis. If we’re trying to save money catcher is a great place to start.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Oct 10, 2011 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

agreed

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 10, 2011 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Delmon Young was added back onto the Tigers roster, replacing the injured Maggs, per Jim Bowden.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 8:42 AM PDT reply actions  

put me in coach

I’m ready to play…..today

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 10, 2011 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Can’t wait for him to have his Kirk Gibson moment…and promptly ground out on the first pitch

by Michael White on Oct 10, 2011 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Here’s the pitch, Outside! And it’s ball four to Delmon Young! I don’t believe what I just saw!

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Oct 10, 2011 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

From a selfish standpoint, I was sad last night’s ALCS Game 2 was postponed. It went from watchable game to audio only.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 8:47 AM PDT reply actions  

Also, on the AtBat app, only the TBS games allow for watching with the different camera angles. Fox insists you have to watch Fox in order to see the game.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Who wants to watch the AL anyways?

by delias man on Oct 10, 2011 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rangers lineup

Kinsler 2B
Andrus SS
Hamilton CF
Young DH
Beltre 3B
Napoli C
Cruz RF
Murphy LF
Moreland 1B

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 8:57 AM PDT reply actions  

As hot as Beltre’s been, he hits 5th behind Young?

by G.Scott on Oct 10, 2011 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tigers

are probably still drawing straws to see who plays outfield.

by Xeifrank on Oct 10, 2011 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Now that’s a lineup.

by kinbote on Oct 10, 2011 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

By the way

Colombus Day is the greatest holiday in all of holidays

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 10, 2011 9:02 AM PDT reply actions  

I was wondering why traffic this morning was so nice.

by G.Scott on Oct 10, 2011 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Everyone

is an off-course Italian today.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 10, 2011 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Our leaders really need to sit down and figure out if Columbus Day is a holiday.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Oct 10, 2011 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

it gets them out of work, so why not.

by G.Scott on Oct 10, 2011 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

If Arizona can vote out MLK day, then anything is possible.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 10, 2011 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think there would be a huge showing of bipartisan support to solve “oh, the post office is closed, and your trash won’t get picked up but you still have to go to work”

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by regfairfield on Oct 10, 2011 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s not a holiday for the Los Angeles city Bureau of Sanitation. In fact, they actually observe very few holidays. I think just July 4, Labor Day, the Friday after Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Year.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 10, 2011 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

My normal pick up day is Monday, so I have to be conscious that they pick up on Memorial Day.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 10, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thanksgiving, Christmas nice to be with family? Labor Day, the union demands it? July 4th, given that they start early would seem to be a good day to work.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 10, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

and me!

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 10, 2011 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Schools do not take off for Columbus Day.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 10, 2011 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

some do

they used to at least, but I know UCI gets Cesar Chavez day instead now

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 10, 2011 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yep. I love Red Letter days. All ten of them!

by jrock247 on Oct 10, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought it was because today was the 40th anniversary of the London Bridge being transplanted to Arizona?

by G.Scott on Oct 10, 2011 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

So it’s celebrating the victory of a government in mainland China that thirty years later was overthrown itself?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 10, 2011 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just realized

today sucks for many reasons, lol.

by Ivdown on Oct 10, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't get the benifit of no traffic

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 10, 2011 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

no wonder!

Until the jackasses going north on the 101 HAD to watch the accident on the other side of the freeway…i hate humanity.

by Ivdown on Oct 10, 2011 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was wondering why there were day NHL games today. The secret is unlocked.

by Alex41592 on Oct 10, 2011 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Little known fact

Chris Columbus, big hockey fan.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s why he came to the Americas. In his car.

by kinbote on Oct 10, 2011 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

The guy who wrote Gremlins?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 10, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

You could make a pretty long list of movies that were Gremlins rip-offs. Saw that movie on a Sneak Preview in Westwood. Crown went bonkers. Supposedly it’s one of the reasons why PG-13 was invented. Pretty dark/violent for youngins.

by kinbote on Oct 10, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Compared to Russell Martin

Seems like a good idea to compare the Dodgers crop to the guy the Dodgers passed on.

wRC+
Ellis 121
Martin 100
Barajas 94
Navarro 62
Fedz 50
Gimenez <30>

by Michael White on Oct 10, 2011 9:18 AM PDT reply actions  

League-adjusted weighted runs created, per Fangraphs.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks. So this is the best, latest one-offensive-stat-to-rule-them-all? The last time I started taking note of one of those (can’t remember what it was called, I think it started with an “E”) no one ever used it. That link says that wRC is “based off wOBA”, which it links to, but does say why it’s supposed to be better than wOBA. Why are there so many? If everyone would use the same one, that would be nice. At the moment it’s sort of VCR/betamax but about 5 different systems.

by berkowit28 on Oct 10, 2011 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

wRC is park adjusted and is based off a slightly more understandable scale than wOBA.

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by regfairfield on Oct 10, 2011 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

wOBA would be more or less fine if we we’re comparing all Yankees or all Dodgers. But when comparing between different teams who play in different leagues and ballparks, it makes sense to adjust for those sort of things.

It’s like using OPS+ vs. straight OPS.

by Michael White on Oct 10, 2011 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Actually that seems to be the difference between wRC and wRC+, no? What’s the difference between wRC and wOBA?

by berkowit28 on Oct 10, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

wOBA is a rate stat, wRC is a cumulative stat.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

wRC+ isn’t. Brandon Lyon lead the league this year.

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by regfairfield on Oct 10, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

But wRC is. That’s just being confusing for no reason.

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by regfairfield on Oct 10, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Right

It’s kind of a cheat, isn’t it?

wRC is a counting stat (sort of)

wRC+ is a rate stat, that adjusts wOBA (not wRC) for park and league.

wOBA+ would have been a better name, no?

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

wOBA: uses the league average on base as average, not park adjusted.

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by regfairfield on Oct 10, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

wRC and wOBA are tied to linear weights. wOBA is the rate stat, and wRC+ is a way to measure that and factor in park and league.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s such a new form of analysis, I think we’ll go through several new iterations and formulas over the next several years before we start to see something that resembles a universally accepted formula. I think it’ll eventually be a form of WAR that has defensive metrics sorted out.

by G.Scott on Oct 10, 2011 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ellis might be the current king of SSS. A 400PA/200PA split with someone else (maybe a cheaper veteran backup?) might be the way to go. It’s like a presidential ticket: we need a young veteran to go with the old rookie.

by kinbote on Oct 10, 2011 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tigers lineup

Jackson CF
Santiago 2B
Young LF
Cabrera 1B
Martinez DH
Raburn RF
Peralta SS
Avila C
Inge 3B

Scherzer v. Holland

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 9:26 AM PDT reply actions  

Young is right back in there.

by Alex41592 on Oct 10, 2011 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

$55 mil worth of Arod/Tex couldn’t knock that out.

by kinbote on Oct 10, 2011 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not so fast my friend

per Rosenthal:

Leyland has two lineups for #Tigers – one with Young, one not.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

One with tobacco stains, one without.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 10, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Italian

Who here can recommend a good lasagna pan. I’m looking for one that is 4" deep.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 10, 2011 9:27 AM PDT reply actions  

I’m guessing Joe or Craig.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 10, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

We got an Apilco one from Williams Sonoma as a gift when we got married back in 1999, it is a heck of a lot fancier than what I grew up, it has not given me any cause to complain

by Hollywood Joe on Oct 10, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

For the first time since 1982

There are no college football teams from the state of Florida in the AP Top 25.

by G.Scott on Oct 10, 2011 9:27 AM PDT reply actions  

I've watched surprisingly little college football this year

I don’t even think of it until I wake up saturday morning and start flipping through channels while eating breakfast

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 10, 2011 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think I can name all 13 undefeateds from memory--let me try

LSU/Oklahoma/Alabama
Boise/Wisconsin/Stanford
Oklahome St./Clemson/Georgia Tech
Michigan/Illinois/Kansas St.
Houston

Anarchy Rules!

by kinbote on Oct 10, 2011 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Delmon Young gets the start

1. Austin Jackson® CF
2. Ramon Santiago (S) 2B
3. Delmon Young® LF
4. Miguel Cabrera® 1B
5. Victor Martinez (S) DH
6. Ryan Raburn® RF
7. Jhonny Peralta® SS
8. Alex Avila (L) C
9. Brandon Inge® 3B

via Baseballpress

by Xeifrank on Oct 10, 2011 9:33 AM PDT reply actions  

Amazing

that he can be left off of the roster and then inserted back in to be the #3 hitter and play the outfield. Either he is a gritty gamer, not injured all that bad, or the team is desperate. I vote for all of the above.

by Xeifrank on Oct 10, 2011 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lefty with pot and sex shows?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 10, 2011 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

He calls his cutter “The Dutch Rudder”

by keithc13 on Oct 10, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I completely missed this yesterday

I was driving home during what would have been Game 2 of the ALCS. So the game was postponed Sunday morning, then it didn’t even fucking rain? Fuck that noise.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 9:35 AM PDT reply actions  

Yep, game called due to rain, and no rain fell at all.

by G.Scott on Oct 10, 2011 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nolan Ryan should personally go to every fan’s house and pitch to them in their backyard.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

MLB was criticized for not postponing game 1 in advance, screwing up Verlander’s schedule a second time, etc. They can’t win. Also, they still haven’t invented a way to get 100% accurate weather forecasting. All Selig’s fault, no doubt. ;-)

by berkowit28 on Oct 10, 2011 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not a coincidence that Peter Falk’s character was named Colombo, amirite?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 10, 2011 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Have all playoff and World Series games played in the Southwest, where it doesn’t rain in October.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Oct 10, 2011 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Except it did rain in Arlington, of all places.

by berkowit28 on Oct 10, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Per Jerry Crasnick
Jim Leyland on the weather forecasts in Texas: "If somebody buys an umbrella down here, then they cancel school.’’

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s an awful follow

by keithc13 on Oct 10, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Baron Davis used to be the poster child for why you don’t follow athletes.

“I’m sitting in the line at DMV”

But Dee Gordon is getting to that point.

by Michael White on Oct 10, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

We need Delias Man to stir things up again, and tell Dee he better not be another Izturis.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Im on it.

Im texting him as we type

by keithc13 on Oct 10, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

ill find something that irritates me and get to tweeting.

by delias man on Oct 10, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Read any of his tweets post baseball season…

by keithc13 on Oct 10, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

He says “Dee does seem to listen to me.”

lol

by keithc13 on Oct 10, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I fully credit Dee’s September to Deelias Man

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

finally some well deserved credit from you.

by delias man on Oct 10, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

You are the heartbeat of the Dodgers and everyone on here now, including Eric, knows it.

by keithc13 on Oct 10, 2011 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Picturing George Costanza tinkering with Danny Tartabul’s swing.

by Michael White on Oct 10, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t follow that many athletes.

For some reason I follow Jeremy Guthrie. He’s good.

Kemp is cool.

by keithc13 on Oct 10, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Logan Morrison is an amusing follow.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 10, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good to know.

Im gonna check him out

by keithc13 on Oct 10, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

@LoMoMarlins, IIRC

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 10, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Baseball players worth following: Logan Morrison, Jeremy Guthrie, Peter Moylan, Mark Teahen and the A’s rotation.

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by regfairfield on Oct 10, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

i enjoy seeing what football players eat on twitter

by delias man on Oct 10, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

i learned that the entire Raiders secondary

does jamba juice and chipotle everyday after practice

by delias man on Oct 10, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

SUGAR AND CARBS

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 10, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

When you’re as big as those guys and work out that hard you probably need like 7000 calories a day. Jamba and Chipotle are damn good at that.

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by regfairfield on Oct 10, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

it is good and bad that calories are posted everywhere now

i was drooling over this chili/ roast beef/ melty cheese togos sandwich the other day to see that the 6 inch was 1100 calories. got turkey wrap instead. I feel embarrassed to order something like that now. :(

by delias man on Oct 10, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know!

Sometimes I just want to eat something greasy and disgusting in peace but nooooooooo. Even on my “cheat” day I get to feel guilty because they shove the calories in my face. Every other day of the week I’m happy to see them though.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 10, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is your cue

to go to business that is too small to be required to do nutritional analysis on their food.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 10, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Albatross ho!

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 10, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Haven’t been able to order a meatball sandwich since they started being displayed. I’ll take the Roast Beef on Wheat please, hold the tears.

by G.Scott on Oct 10, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I never thought to add bacon to a meatball sub. I don’t doubt its greatness though.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

it was always just bread, meatballs, sauce and cheese, though iw ould on occassion add olives. Bacon, you say?

by G.Scott on Oct 10, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

you only live once. go for it.

by delias man on Oct 10, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

That sounds like something bacon wouldn’t make better.

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 10, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Those words don’t make sense in this order.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Whereas sugar and crabs are the refuge of Minnesota Vikings on boats.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 10, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dee Gordon for Brandon McCarthy. Help the rotation, send the Dodgers TORP through the roof.

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by regfairfield on Oct 10, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Leyland says Delmon Young definitely will play

Then dropped this gem, per Rangers reporter Anthony Andro:

Leyland on Delmon Young’s injury: It’s not really the oblique oblique. I like that one.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 10:17 AM PDT reply actions  

It’s the horizontal oblique?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 10, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bunch of NBA players have tweeted “LET US PLAY #StandUnited”

I’m sure that will spur an agreement.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 10:20 AM PDT reply actions  

If only they can get everyone in the Astrodome to join them!

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 10, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm still working on alternatives

Spent the weekend (no, not all of it) watching episodes online from old seasons of “The Ultimate Fighter.” Enjoying the MMA thing.

by Michael White on Oct 10, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

considered watching winter league baseball? A day trip to Mexicali or something?

by delias man on Oct 10, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

You watch that online, or do you get it already because you have ESPN Deportes so you can watch Argentine soccer?

by Michael White on Oct 10, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

i get it already. difficult to watch live, really need DVR support.

by delias man on Oct 10, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I saw a Puerto Rican winter league game on my honeymoon. Hiram Bocachica and Jose Vidro were in it.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 10, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Derek Fisher is now retweeting all of them it seems

by Julio Nievas on Oct 10, 2011 10:45 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

You find anything out about what we were messaging about on Friday?

That was a weird email..

by keithc13 on Oct 10, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

SPAM

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 10, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dude didn’t respond to my email. A bunch of people on here got an email from him though.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

But

you confirmed your email address to them, so you got that going for you

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 10, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but it’s worth it sometimes to tell somebody to GFY

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

You’re a man of principle.

by kinbote on Oct 10, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Had a guy on my team this weekend try to yell at me for calling time out from the dugout because their pitcher started his windup while their left fielder was down the line chasing the previous foul ball.

by G.Scott on Oct 10, 2011 10:35 AM PDT reply actions  

Pat Riley, had he decided to switch sports, would have had you run until you throw up.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Didn’t realize Mister GQ was a bad sport :)

by G.Scott on Oct 10, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

If anyone cares

Dave Cameron’s four favorite under-the-radar upgrade targets for 2012:

1. Chris Volstad
2. Angel Pagan
3. Casey McGehee
4. Chris Snyder

http://www.ussmariner.com/2011/10/09/upgrades-that-wont-cost-an-arm-or-a-leg/

by kinbote on Oct 10, 2011 10:47 AM PDT reply actions  

Volstad is dead
long live netflix

by G.Scott on Oct 10, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

“trade for Angel Pagan” is one thing I want this offseason.

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by regfairfield on Oct 10, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

cool

I was wondering what you’d think. I posted it because the positions (SP, OF, 3B, C) seem to align with ours.

by kinbote on Oct 10, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Volstad seems unrealistic, the Marlins can’t afford to give up a starting pitcher entering first year arbitration.

I’m never a fan of guys that don’t even get a chance until they’re 26 and McGhee didn’t just lose BABIP there was a pretty big power outage to go with it. I’d take him but I wouldn’t give up too much for it.

I end up with Synder as my second catcher way too much in fantasy and he’s just frustrating. I’d rather take my chances with Ellis.

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by regfairfield on Oct 10, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

McGehee could fill a need, but who knows how he’d be in DS rather than Miller Park

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 10, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I could get behind this. I’m not sure where he fits if we have Kemp/Ethier/Sands with Loney at first, though.

If Ned cuts Loney loose, then adding Pagan and shifting Ethier to first makes a lot of sense, or certainly if Ethier is being shopped, Pagan could work there as well. In fact, might the Mets be a reasonable potential destination in an Ethier trade? They’re likely to lose Reyes and their two biggest bats are right-handed. Do they have anyone else we’d be looking for in trade?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 10, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

David Wright :)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 10, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

My plan also involves DFAing Loney and trading Ethier.

Mets need a complete rebuild and they can’t afford to pay players any more. They’d probably need to take prospects since one year of Ethier isn’t gonna do a whole lot for them.

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by regfairfield on Oct 10, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

I could see them going that way. I could also see the Mets going all-in, signing CJ to a big deal and getting a bat like Ethier to try to compete.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 10, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe, but it wouldn’t jive with reports that the Mets are slashing payroll. They’ve got 57 million going to three guys next year, Ethier would bring that up to 70.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Oct 10, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not after they trade us Wright and Johan

by G.Scott on Oct 10, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Excellent list

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 10, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Detroit/Texas boxscore

Box score output from the simulator with actual lineups. Though I think Scherzer will throw more pitches than that.

by Xeifrank on Oct 10, 2011 11:14 AM PDT reply actions  

Picked up PS3 and MLB 2011 The Show last night. Soon as we get internet on Friday, it’s on like Donkey Kong.

First thing I did last night (after creating myself in RTTS, because I’m a baseball narcissist) was start a Dodgers Franchise and immediately traded Ted Lilly to the Orioles for Jeremy Guthrie straight up. No idea if that would fly in real life, but man was that fun.

by G.Scott on Oct 10, 2011 11:17 AM PDT reply actions  

You can get anything you want in MLB 2011 The Show.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 10, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

You can get anything you want/On PS3, G dot Scott

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 10, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

including identity theft!

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 10, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also

The internet kind of takes away the need for 8 × 10 color glossy photographs with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one was.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 10, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also

It was a very happy day for me, indeed, when I found out that Officer Obie was a real person.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 10, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Keeyid. Love that he played himself in the movie.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 10, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

nice!

We should play online some time. I’m just Ivdown (remember it’s i not L, people like to call me “leveldown” online, lol) for my PS3 tag.

One thing you might enjoy is buying the “advanced stats” pack for .99 cents for the show. A ton of them are completely useless and things I’ve never seen before, but it gives k/9, ISO, and a couple other cool advanced stats. I think there was range factor too.

by Ivdown on Oct 10, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Next purchases look to be Borderlands, Fifa 12, Madden 12 and NHL 12

by G.Scott on Oct 10, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

foget about borderlands

just get firefall for pc when it comes out.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 10, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maddz worked on Borderlands, so I want her to show me where all the bugs she reported are that some Cost-Benefit Analysis intern decided not to fix.

by G.Scott on Oct 10, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

ah

its a fun game, worth the 5 dollars it will cost to pick it up. Firefall is free though…

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 10, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

After playing BF3 for PS3 and PC, I feel really bad for console kids. Not trying to bait or anything but people, your console is worth likely 100 bucks in hardware.

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 10, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

6 years later

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 10, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

*5

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 10, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

and thats bullshot

you can’t even build a computer to play 1080p video for less then 300 bucks

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 10, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

FIFA 12

is the hardest game in the history of the world. And I have been playing non stop since FIFA 94

by delias man on Oct 10, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

defense is so hard now.

by delias man on Oct 10, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s incredibly hard. (Still haven’t seen Moneyball, but that quote has immediately rocketed to my goto pile)

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 10, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d tell you which movie I first saw that line in, but, uh…

I may have already said too much.

by fbihop on Oct 10, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

“I’ve only ever played catcher”

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 10, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

“There’s 50 feet of crap, and then there’s us.”

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 10, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

“It costs a dollar?”

“Welcome to Oakland.”

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 10, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

What is the bat-flip after the walk in this scenario?

by fbihop on Oct 10, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

One thing I love doing is creating guys I’ve been making since MVP 03, but instead of making them great from the start in franchise mode, I make them prospects and after a few years they become great and build up my team from there. I have won 3 of the last 4 WS with a Dbacks franchise where I averaged 55-60 wins before my prospects matured.

by Ivdown on Oct 10, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have won 3 of the last 4 WS with a Dbacks franchise

Never cross the family again.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

All three responses rec’d.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I stopped playing after 10 seasons and I couldn’t play as another team.. fuck that game. So glad I waited til it went on sale

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 10, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

There needs to be some serious changes made

I love in nba 2k11 that I could change teams mid season or whenever, and I have to stick with this same franchise forever in the show? Screw that.

by Ivdown on Oct 10, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

On the day

that the NYSE was suppose to be taken down, we have a nice little rally. Need another dozen or so of these days to recoup.

by Xeifrank on Oct 10, 2011 11:18 AM PDT reply actions  

Hacking the NYSE would be a good way to piss off the entire world. I don’t think they really want to make that many enemies.

by VegasBlues on Oct 10, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

There is an edge of the universe

and it’s labelled with a sign that reads XFD

by G.Scott on Oct 10, 2011 11:21 AM PDT reply actions  

By the way

I was really disappointed in this site yesterday.

I open up the site to see the game thread. Big picture of Greinke. Great so far.

The post should have then said these words: “They might do it.”

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 10, 2011 11:46 AM PDT reply actions  

Man, that would have been good.

by Michael White on Oct 10, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

A missed opportunity. Damn it.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Per Jon Morosi of Fox Sports
In other BP news: Miguel Cabrera taking some grounders at 3B again.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 11:50 AM PDT reply actions  

MADNESS!

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 10, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

He quoted Morosi. What more referral do you need?

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 10, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

In anticipation of signing Pujols or Fielder
or simply so Victor can play 1st when they reach the World Series?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 10, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

In anticipation of signing Pujols or Fielder

I was thinking the same thing.

Upon hearing the story, Albert Pujols said, “I’m open to talking with the Tigers after I declare free agency, but right now, I’m just focusing on getting the Cardinals to the World Series.”

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 10, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think they’d probably be better off having VMart catch and letting Avila play third. Seems like the day they told Cabrera he’d be a 1B, he stopped trying for mobility altogether.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 10, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Without even reading it, I can say with full conviction, I never enjoyed watching a professional athlete more then I enjoyed watching Magic Johnson. Ever

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 10, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Better nickname that is a great double entendre: Magic Johnson or The Big Unit?

by fbihop on Oct 10, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Big Train
The Iron Horse
“Mickey Mantle”

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 10, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Big Hurt
Tiny Archibald
Bowl of Dicks

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 10, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seeing as how this was a topic on double entendres I think you may have wanted to keep this to yourself…

by VegasBlues on Oct 10, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I skim a lot of what people say

and thought people were just talking about cool nicknames that happened to be in that same vein. lol

by Ivdown on Oct 10, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Little Joe
Charlie Hustle
The Penguin
The Cobra
The Bird

by Xeifrank on Oct 10, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like that Rivers nickname has caught on.

by delias man on Oct 10, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I spread it around to one of my friends from high school yesterday. Hopefully he will enlighten his friends and it will catch on even more.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I totally agree

some of that probably comes from being a late teens early 20’s sports nut when he was propelling the Lakers to championship after championship, but he could do shit with the rock that no one his size, this side of a young wilt, could even imagine.

by MammothDodger on Oct 10, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hat tip to MSTI

for finding a Bleacher Report article this morning that has since been pulled. I usually hate linking to Bleacher Report, but this was too bad to be ignored.

The opening two sentences, full of fail:

We are just weeks away from the National League Cy Young voting, an award that reflects regular season performance, but has often been swayed by solid postseason stats.

After all, it was Roy Halladay’s playoff no-no that solidified his unanimous Cy Young selection last year.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 11:56 AM PDT reply actions  

I want to write for Bleacher Report. Only I’ll write about a sport that I never watch. Like rugby.

I’ll fit right in.

by fbihop on Oct 10, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

We are months away from the Rugby World Cup, but everybody knows the favorite is Botswana.

by Michael White on Oct 10, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

The key is which team will find out that a forward pass is WAY more efficient than a backwards toss.

by fbihop on Oct 10, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rugby, long shunned by the most masculine of men, has finally been accepted as a graceful and delicate art, like ballet or poetry.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 10, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

heh

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 10, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m sure there’s a reason the yellow guys are just circling around the pile like ninjas in a Bruce Lee movie while the green guys are handling business.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Oct 10, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was just thinking that. Instead of pointing, maybe the big guy should try and stop the guy in green from breaking his teammates neck.

by Michael White on Oct 10, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

the play should have been called dead

theres about a million things happening that should not be allowed but the ref was standing around doing nothing like a ponce.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 10, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I sure wouldn’t want to break that up.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Oct 10, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

i’ve always liked those helmets

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 10, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

That one large Pacific Islander fellow who gestured to the ref I believe is now known as Wussyasisopo

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 10, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

In a feat that hasn’t been seen since Matt Damon whooped Morgan Freeman

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 10, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

because I need to spell these things out

Mistake: Cy Young voting took place at the end of the regular season, but isn’t announced til after the season

and then every subsequent mistake is a result of the writer not understanding this first premise.

by Josie Becker on Oct 10, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think that TBLA should combine to write the perfect Bleacher Report “article.”

I put article in quotes because, of course, it has to be a slideshow.

by fbihop on Oct 10, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

well a slide show is the only way to ensure you get a hit on every single picture you got from a google image search

by Josie Becker on Oct 10, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

You can’t top just transcribing calls into WFAN or Colin Cowherd.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Oct 10, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I want to try!

“So now that the baseball regular season has ended, those teams that didn’t make the playoffs are going to start preparing for the offseason draft. To get you ready, we’ve prepared a slideshow of the top 10 Dodger draft picks:

Number 6: Andre Ethier"

by Josie Becker on Oct 10, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Number one: Jackie Robinson

by fbihop on Oct 10, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Number two: Adrian Beltre

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 10, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Number three: Roberto Clemente

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 10, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Jackie Robinson was drafted out of the University of California, where he was a five sport athlete. He was actually drafted by the NBA to play for the Los Angeles Lakers, but decided to stick with baseball”

by Josie Becker on Oct 10, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jackie Robinson was drafted out of the University of California,

Now you are just baiting. :-P


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 10, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

“GM Walter Alston drafted him for his non-confrontational nature and happy demeanor.”

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 10, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

There was a book made by several writers that was a romance novel

Where each person had a general idea what the book was about, but everyone wrote a different chapter without knowing what the others were writing.

I say we write something like that, a slide each, hahah.

by Ivdown on Oct 10, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

lolerskates

I keep coming back, as I’m a glutton for punishment, to that site. Mostly I read WWE crap because I don’t need actual analysis, just people talking about what’s happening.

When I see people saying that the biggest offseason move the Dodgers need to make is getting a new owner or getting a reliever, I wish I could take back the last 5 minutes of my life.

by Ivdown on Oct 10, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wait a minute…just so I understand this fully…

You read about professional wrestling (WWE) on Bleacher Report?

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I… I do too. Now that Kevin Eck isn’t writing his blog anymore there isn’t anywhere really to read about WWE that isn’t idiotic so I just go to Bleacher Report because I know they have obsessive, if badly written, coverage of it.

by fbihop on Oct 10, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

the only place I read about wrestling is wrestlecrap.com

by Josie Becker on Oct 10, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

the only place i read about it is here

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 10, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

The only place I see it, and z through it, is here.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 10, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

have you read the book?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 10, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

it's pretty good

hilarious how someone thought ANY of those gimmicks would draw.

the Gobbeldygooker? really?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 10, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Always remember that pro graps is run by carnies.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Oct 10, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Absolutely

I’m not reading for great writing, just the info and opinions really. Opinions are horrible in actual sports, but in something scripted like wrestling, i’m cool with it.

by Ivdown on Oct 10, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's my guilty pleasure

I love what’s happening in the wwe right now (I really want to call it wwf), lol. It’s one of the things I’m holding onto from my childhood. The funny thing is I didn’t pay attention from 2002 or 2003 till early 2011.

by Ivdown on Oct 10, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

The first two sentagraphs are great, but the kicker is the close
My prediction: Kershaw gets 23 or 24 first-place votes, against six or seven for Halladay and one each for Lee and Kennedy.

Kershaw wins it.

“So who would win in a football game between Mike Ditka, and every angel in heaven?

Oh that’s just not fair, Mike Ditka 231 – Angels 0"

by Josie Becker on Oct 10, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

Two from each city in each league (28 in AL).

I’m not sure what Josie found in the closing line to make it the kicker.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

you don’t think it’ll be a little bit closer than 24-6-1-1?

by Josie Becker on Oct 10, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think there’s an inherent insanity needed to try and predict the exact breakdown of Cy Young votes.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Oct 10, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just want to know his thought process. Is that 12 unanimous cities? Are there gonna be some beat writer splits? And isn’t it too early to call Florida?

by Josie Becker on Oct 10, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

You want to know what he’s thinking? He wasn’t, that’s what he’s thinking.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Oct 10, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

It wouldn't shock me

There was quite a narrative building around Kershaw at the end of the season.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 1:03 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

FAQ from BBWAA site re Voting

Which BBWAA members vote for the annual awards?

Two writers from each MLB city are recommended by the local chapter chairman and approved by the national secretary-treasurer to vote for each award. Writers from NL cities vote for NL awards, and writers from AL cities vote for AL awards, making 32 voters for each NL award and 28 for each AL award. Most traveling beat writers will vote for at least one annual award each year. In some chapters, columnists or backup writers may also vote. Any active member of the BBWAA is eligible to vote for annual awards, regardless of his or her number of years in the organization.

What about national writers?

Most national baseball writers who are active BBWAA members will vote for annual awards. Typically, the writer votes in the chapter where he resides, but sometimes national writers vote as part of smaller chapters that don’t have enough qualified voters.

When does the voting take place?

Voters submit their ballots before the start of the postseason.

How many names are on the ballot?

For MVP, there are 10 spots on the ballot. For Cy Young, there are five. For Jackie Robinson Rookie of the Year and Manager of the Year, there are three. A writer may not split a spot on the ballot between two candidates.

How is the voting counted?

For all awards, there is a point system that is weighted by the spot on the ballot. For the MVP, a first-place vote is worth 14 points. From second to 10th, the ballot spots are worth 9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1 points, respectively. For the Cy Young, the points are 7-4-3-2-1. For the Jackie Robinson Rookie of the Year and Manager of the Year, the points are 5-3-1.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 10, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like that they use “his or her number of years” to pretend to be gender neutral, but then later it is “where he resides.” Nice try, BBWAA.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 10, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Carrie Muskat, Christina Kahrl, and Gwen Knapp by my count. And Christina Kahrl jokes and I’ll start swinging.

by Josie Becker on Oct 10, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

How in the hell did Christina's

ancestors avoid having their family name anglicized to Karl or Carl?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 10, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

How the Forest Service saved baseball (hyperbole!)

Cool quick blog post on how they made sure there were less broken maple bats.

by fbihop on Oct 10, 2011 12:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Heh
manufacturers were unknowingly distributing bats that were sapped of up to three-quarters of their potential strength (although [Barry] Bonds did not seem to notice).


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 10, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really hope that the guy
MLB has since mandated that bat manufacturers place an inkblot on the handle of every maple bat they make. The ink bleeds along the grain of the wood, allowing a third-party agency contracted by the league to ensure that the fibers run at an angle of no more than 3 degrees from vertical.

who came up with this solution was named Rorschach.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 10, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

From Danny Knobler of CBS Sports
Tigers announce Darrell Evans will throw out first pitch, Aretha Franklin will sing natl anthem before Game 3. Joel Zumaya will be there too

I liked Darrell Evans in the 1980s

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 12:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Evans

had a much better year in 1985 vs 1984 but he was the starter for their World Series title team.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 10, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not from ‘80-’83, I imagine.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 10, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

As I recall

Bill James was a big fan of Darrell Evans.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 10, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Definitely

played 3B, had power, walk % of 15.0 against a K % of 13.1. What we hoped Andy LaRoche would be, except for the bats left part.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 10, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good point

For me the 1980s ran from 1984-1989, at least in my baseball fandom.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 1:01 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

More underrated Evans, Darrell or Dwight? Also, how the hell could Boston miss an opportunity to hype a legitimately great player? Dewey was a better player than Jim Rice.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 10, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Darrell
Boston

And I don’t mean Daryl Boston.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 10, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dwight is still one of the more underrated players of his generation. If Darrell had been able to field his position a tad better, while Dwight was one of the best right fielders I ever saw. Great young outfields have to start with Evans/ Lynn / Rice.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 10, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

For a brief spell, Bell, Barfield, Moseby was a great young outfield as well.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 10, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

in case you dont follow me this is the funneist tweet i have seen in a long time
The Bill Walton Trip
Does Kris Humphries break down and cry when he hears the Dr. Dre & Kurupt song “Housewife”? #ThingsToPonderAtNight

by delias man on Oct 10, 2011 12:38 PM PDT reply actions  

The only part of this I understand is Dr. Dre. He and Ed Lover were quite a team.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 10, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does Justin Verlander pitch another game this season? He is slated to start Game #5.

by Xeifrank on Oct 10, 2011 12:50 PM PDT reply actions  

I say yes

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 10, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Easy Peasy

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 10, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great Photo on Rod

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 10, 2011 1:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Still find it funny that the only guy to get a slash hit was released, and as soon as he was released the offense went bonkers.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 10, 2011 1:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Qwikster had a good run
Dear john,
.
It is clear that for many of our members two websites would make things more difficult, so we are going to keep Netflix as one place to go for streaming and DVDs.
.
This means no change: one website, one account, one password…in other words, no Qwikster.
.
While the July price change was necessary, we are now done with price changes.
.
We’re constantly improving our streaming selection. We’ve recently added hundreds of movies from Paramount, Sony, Universal, Fox, Warner Bros., Lionsgate, MGM and Miramax. Plus, in the last couple of weeks alone, we’ve added over 3,500 TV episodes from ABC, NBC, FOX, CBS, USA, E!, Nickelodeon, Disney Channel, ABC Family, Discovery Channel, TLC, SyFy, A&E, History, and PBS.
.
We value you as a member, and we are committed to making Netflix the best place to get your movies & TV shows.
.
Respectfully,
.
The Netflix Team

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 10, 2011 1:06 PM PDT reply actions  

how about

a nice game of checkers?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 10, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wonder how many MBA’s it took to come up with an idea that would piss of the majority of Netflix’s members, and how many management folk sat at on their hands knowing it was a bad idea in the beginning but said nothing until the members(customers) told Netflix to blow me.

Netflix was able to pull a rare double play
1. Come up with an idea so bad the stock dropped from 300 to 100
2. Totally piss off it’s membership

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 10, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

but 2 is more than one? Everyone loves more!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 10, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

A true Dear John letter…well, email.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 1:14 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Wait a minute

USA is still around? That used to be THE spot for bad game shows and other bad crap.

by kinbote on Oct 10, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

They have high-rated shows that nobody watches — Psych, Burn Notice, White Collar… there are more too, and somehow they get watched, but not by people I know.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 10, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Psych and Burn Notice are awesome

The other stuff is supposed to be pretty good, but nothing i’m really a fan of.

by Ivdown on Oct 10, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

ew

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 10, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just noticed the Minor League Central shout out, thanks Eric.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Oct 10, 2011 1:16 PM PDT reply actions  

has the game started?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 10, 2011 1:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Holland about to make first pitch.

by Alex41592 on Oct 10, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

BBRef never fails to amaze. Check out this gem

In 1982, apparently Mike Flanagan went to salary arbitration, and this happened:

1982 30 Baltimore Orioles $500,000 1983 TSN Guide Player asked $485K, team offered $500K!

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 10, 2011 1:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Outstanding

IIRC Maury Brown at Biz of Baseball found another instance of that earlier this year. I don’t remember the details though.

That is great.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 10, 2011 1:28 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

who saw delmon yong swinging

he cant swing at all… no rotation of his hips cause of his oblique…

by matthewmafa on Oct 10, 2011 1:28 PM PDT reply actions  

If only they had traded for Jamie Hoffman

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 10, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

In fairness, every team in baseball is saying the same thing.

by kinbote on Oct 10, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Their only other option besides mini-Dmitri was Andy Dirks.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 10, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

But not his oblique oblique.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 10, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s his obscure oblique, or maybe his askew oblique.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 10, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s his elliptical ellipses . . .

by kinbote on Oct 10, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

So it’s like the standard Delmon Young start.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Oct 10, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

When Bref starts the search tool for minor league stats I’m going to be curious how may 19 year old total 45 home runs in A-AA-AAA ( no rookie leagues mind you) and then average 12 home runs in the major leagues.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 10, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

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Pos No Player 2012 Salary
C 17 Ellis $490,000
1B 7 Loney $6,375,000
2B 37 Herrera $375,082
3B 6 Hairston $2,250,000
SS 9 Gordon $485,000
LF 23 Abreu $401,311
CF 10 Gwynn $850,000
RF 16 Ethier $10,950,000

OF/1B 33 Van Slyke $388,197
2B/3B 3 Kennedy $800,000
OF/1B 30 Sands $375,175
IF 13 DeJesus $448,992
C 18 Treanor $850,000

SP 22 Kershaw $6,000,000
SP 58 Billingsley $9,000,000
SP 29 Lilly $12,000,000
SP 44
Harang $3,000,000
SP 35 Capuano $3,000,000

CL 74
Jansen $491,000
RHP 52 Lindblom $483,000
RHP 51 Belisario $414,426
RHP 54 Guerra $488,000
RHP 28
Wright $900,000
LHP 57 Elbert $488,500
RHP 60 Coffey $1,000,000

DL 27 Kemp $10,000,000
DL 21 Rivera $4,000,000
DL 12 Sellers $481,000
DL 5 Uribe $8,000,000
DL 55 Guerrier $4,750,000
DL 14 Ellis $2,500,000
60DL 36 Hawksworth $495,000
60DL 41 De La Rosa $485,000

AA 50 Eovaldi $7,885
AAA 56 Antonini $7,869



Manny $8,087,432 deferred


Andruw $3,375,000 deferred


Pierre $3,050,000 deferred
Furcal $3,000,000 deferred
Kuroda $2,000,000 deferred
Garland $1,500,000 option buyout
Blake $1,250,000 option buyout
DFA 66 MacDougal $650,000

Totals
$115,942,869

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Current 40-man roster count: 42
(incl. De La Rosa & Hawksworth)

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Manager

Eric___ned___reporters_2011_trade_deadline_small Eric Stephen

Editors

100_1427_small Phil Gurnee

Dgy_small David Young

Hanauma_bay_small Chad Moriyama

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Raptors_small Brandon Lennox

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