2011 Dodgers Exit Interviews: The Outfield
by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 7:01 AM PDT
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After reviewing the 2011 seasons from the Dodgers' starting pitchers, their catchers, the infield, and the bullpen, our 48 player reviews end with the outfield, which was a strength this season thanks to the MVP-caliber season from Matt Kemp. Dodgers outfielders were third in the National League in OPS, OPS+, batting average, and slugging percentage, and were second in on-base percentage. Here is a review of the 2011 Dodgers outfielders.
Matt Kemp
What went right: All Kemp did was have one of the very best seasons by a Los Angeles Dodger, if not the best. He came one home run shy of joining the 40/40 club, finishing with a league-leading 39 long balls and 40 stolen bases. One year after getting caught stealing 15 times in 34 tries, Kemp had 40 steals in 51 attempts in 2011, including an 89-game stretch without getting caught (with 20 steals during that span).
Kemp set a career high with 50 unintentional walks, and added 24 more intentional ones too. He led the league in OPS+, total bases, runs scored, and RBI. Kemp even hit three walk-off home runs, prompting a great call from Vin Scully (are there any other kind of calls from Scully?) on April 17, the first of the three walk-off shots from Kemp. With a runner on second base and nobody out, the St. Louis Cardinals opted not to walk Kemp, who blasted Ryan Franklin's fifth pitch over the center field wall for a 2-1 win. "They pitched to the one man who could beat them, and he did," said Scully.
What went wrong: Kemp made nine outs in the Home Run Derby at Chase Field in Phoenix before hitting his first home run. Kemp hit two home runs and failed to advance past the first round.
2012 status: Kemp is going to get paid this winter, one way or another. He has one more year of arbitration eligibility, looking for a big raise from the $7.1 million he made in 2011. Ned Colletti has expressed a desire to sign Kemp to a long-term deal this offseason, but that might require a big assist from Delaware Bankruptcy Court and a new television deal for the Dodgers.
Andre Ethier
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What went right: Ethier started the season on fire, hitting .380 in April and had a 30-game hitting streak, the second longest streak in Dodgers franchise history, just one behind Willie Davis in 1969. Ethier also hit 30 doubles for the fifth straight year, a feat only matched in Dodgers lore by Jackie Robinson.
Ethier, who made his second straight All-Star team, also posted a .368 on-base percentage, his fourth straight season with a .360 OBP. The only streak longer by a Los Angeles Dodger was five straight seasons by Mike Piazza from 1993-1997. Brett Butler also had four straight seasons with a .360 OBP from 1991-1994.
What went wrong: Ethier had a bizarre year, on and off the field. Off the field, Ethier put his foot in his mouth on a few occasions, most notably at the end of spring training when he intimated he might be non-tendered and the end of 2011, at the time a completely absurd idea. Then in late August Ethier accused the Dodgers of making him play while hurt, then backed off those comments the next day. Less than two weeks later, with no improvement in the status of his right knee, cooler heads prevailed and Ethier and the Dodgers jointly decided to shut him down for the rest of the season. He underwent arthroscopic knee surgery on September 14.
Ethier saw his power decline from 23 home runs in 2010 to just 11 round trippers in 2011. Since returning from a broken pinkie finger at the end of May 2010, Ethier has just 23 home runs in 996 plate appearances, hitting .278/.353/.418.
2012 status: Ethier, like Kemp, has one more season of arbitration eligibility remaining before hitting free agency. Ethier made $9.25 million in 2011.
Tony Gwynn, Jr.
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What went right: In June and July, Gwynn hit .305/.377/.389 with 10 stolen bases and 15 walks in 147 plate appearances. He was third on the team with a career-high 22 steals and stole them at a 78.6% clip. Gwynn provided stellar defense in left field.
What went wrong: In April, May, August, and September combined, Gwynn hit .221/.255/.326 with eight walks in 193 PA.
2012 status: Gwynn is arbitration eligible with four years, 44 days of service time. Look for him to make a little over $1 million, and return as the fourth outfielder.
Juan Rivera
What went right: After getting designated for assignment in Toronto, Rivera found a home in Los Angeles. The Dodgers acquired Rivera at the All-Star break, and he provided production in left field and occasionally first base, hitting .274/.333/.406 with five home runs in 62 games (yes that was an improvement, as in the 92 games before the break Dodgers first basemen hit .263/.308/.332 with four home runs and their left fielders hit .231/.305/.313 with two home runs).
After August 1, Rivera drove in 42 runs, third in the National League behind the 44 by both Matt Kemp and Prince Fielder. Rivera came up with a runner on third base with less than two outs 22 times as a Dodger, and he got the run in 18 times, or 81.8% of the time (the NL average was 49.9%).
What went wrong: Rivera ended the season with 10 hits in his final 58 at-bats, hitting .172/.234/.293 over his final 15 games.
2012 status: Rivera is a free agent.
Jerry Sands
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What went wrong: In his first taste of the big leagues, Sands hit .200/.294/.328 in 144 plate appearances.
What went right: After three months back in Triple A to work on his swing, Sands came back in September and hit .342/.415/.493 in 83 plate appearances.
2012 status: Sands figures to be in the mix for either left field or first base, with the outfield his likely destination, and of course dependent on the offseason moves made by the Dodgers.
Trent Oeltjen
What went right: Oeltjen had 13 walks in 91 plate appearances, at 14.29% the highest walk rate among the 27 position players on the Dodgers. Since joining the organization, Oeltjen has walked in 11.63% of his plate appearances in both the majors and minors combined, far higher than he previous minor league career.
Oeltjen was promoted to the Dodgers on June 9 and managed to stay on the team for the rest of the season.
What went wrong: After starting nine of 28 games prior to the All-Star break, Oeltjen started just three of the final 69 games of the season. It's not that he didn't play, as Oeltjen played 41 games after the break, but he struggled in his limited role with just five hits in 37 at-bats (and six walks, of course), hitting .135/.256/.216.
2012 status: Oeltjen turns 29 in February, and has two option years remaining. He has one year, 27 days of service time.
Jamie Hoffmann
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What went right: Hoffmann made three putouts in left field on April 14, his only start of the season.
What went wrong: He went 0 for 4 at the plate.
2012 status: The 27-year old Hoffmann has one option year remaining.
Jay Gibbons
What went right: Gibbons homered off J.A. Happ on May 24 at Minute Maid Park in Houston.
What went wrong: Besieged by vision problems, Gibbons began the season with two hits in 18 at-bats, and hit just .255/.323/.345 in 24 games while playing atrocious defense in left field. He was designated for assignment on June 6, and spent the rest of the season with Triple A Albuquerque.
2012 status: Gibbons opted for free agency last week.
Marcus Thames
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What went right: Thames was signed to provide right-handed power in left field and off the bench, and in April he hit a pair of pinch-hit home runs.
What went wrong: Leg problems marred Thames' tenure with the team, as he missed most of May with a strained right quad, then was limited with a left calf injury that prevented him from playing the outfield with any sort of regularity. Thames hit just .197/.243/.333 in 70 plate appearances.
2011 departure: Thames was designated for assignment on July 12 when the Dodgers traded for Rivera. Thames was released on July 19, then signed a minor league deal with the New York Yankees on July 21, but never played a game.
Xavier Paul
What went right: Paul made the opening day roster, and even started two of the first six games of the season. Paul collected a hit in each of his first three games of the season.
What went wrong: Paul struck out in each of his last four plate appearances with the Dodgers.
2011 departure: Out of options, Paul was designated for assignment on April 18 to make room for Sands. Paul completed Delwyn Young's wild ride, getting claimed by the Pittsburgh Pirates on April 26.
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Love the Sands pic
in yo face, Timmy
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 13, 2011 7:51 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Good article E.
This should’ve been both the titles for “What went right” and “What went wrong”
Thames was signed to provide right-handed power in left field and off the bench
RF – don’t recall a more disappointing 120 OPS+ season from a right fielder. May have to go back to the early 70’s Willie Crawford years.
CF – WOW
LF – you knew Gibbons would blow, but you kind of expected something from Thames. Then you didn’t expect much from Rivera and you got what you expected from Thames. Sands looks like a full time right fielder to me. He’ll be the next Hunter Pence.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Meaning no one will like how he looks in the field and the plate but when they look up a few years from now they will see an above average right fielder who is great at nothing but good at everything.
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re lf
I just cant believe that Ned was like ‘ok this is gonna do just fine for 2011’ before the season started.. I guess the flip side is they were confident they could get relief from Sands when the others failed, but in hindsight – jesus christ.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 13, 2011 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions
If you think Jerry Sands might be ready midseason, you don’t block him by signing one of the shitty LF that were on the market last year. If you don’t want to pay for subpar performance anyway, you might as well try a veteran platoon and see if you can get some production on the cheap. I see the logic, it just didn’t work out that way because both of them had injuries and Sands wasn’t ready.
I think Ned played it just right as far as Thames goes, or anyone of the plethora of right handed bats that were available. Thames just went Daryle Ward on us. Have no idea why he gave Gibbons a major league contract, that was a mistake in foresight and hindsight. However I’m glad we don’t have any crappy outfielders tied to our team by a long term deal from last winter.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
The last sentence is mostly what I was getting at. Looking back, I don’t remember who the other LH LF were that would have been signed over Gibbons, but at that price point I wonder if Xavier Paul should have been given that opportunity.
Pretty much, if you are going to go with Gibbons fine, give him an invite to camp, nothing in his history indicated that someone else would give him a major league deal, and if they did, so what. We should all thank our lucky stars that Podboy turned down his option.
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Dodgers have historically sucked in the Hispanic winter leagues
for a while now. Strange to see Van Slyke tearing it up.
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Not really
but he did hit a home run in his first at bat:)
These are the Winter League Stats so far
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Griff / Latenight / Russell are a combined 5 for 44
Super Ouch
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Alex Castellanos
should either sink or swim as a 2nd baseman.
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Yes. In the last thread it was brought up that the Dodgers were going to look at trying him at 2nd or something like that. I guess he started out as an infielder.
Yes
but he did come up as an infielder, he’s played 408 games, 55 at 2nd, 75 at 3rd. Was still playing 2nd as recently as 2009, maybe he can be a Raburn type.
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is he playing the infield in the AFL?
Did you know if you purchase an AFL season ticket you get the full scouting package on all the players?
AFL article on Dodgers.com mentions it.
• Alex Castellanos, 25, OF, 10th-round pick in 2008 by St. Louis: Acquired in the Rafael Furcal trade, Castellanos is already off to a hot start, with three homers in seven games. Mattingly said Castellanos might be tried at second base after playing primarily in right field, although he started his pro career as an infielder. As a hitter, his 23 homers and 102 runs scored this year have management intrigued. He was the Texas League runner-up in batting (.319) and slugging (.562).
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 13, 2011 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions
well he has done it before, so hopefully he was moved to the OF because of need, and not because he was a bad IF.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 13, 2011 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions
They did move him to 2B, not 3B, though. My guess is that he had a strong enough arm as an IF that they thought it might play in the OF, but his IF range may well leave something to be desired. If he can provide as much defensively as someone serviceable like a Skip Schumaker, that would be awesome. Remember, the Cards view IFs and OFs as fungible.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Wasn't he supposedly terrible defensively in infield though?
(I don’t know directly, never saw him play infield, but he probably would’ve killed Furcal at some point being in closer range.)
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Raburn sucked at 2nd
if the Tigers fans on sbnation are to be believed
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I’ve never been totally convinced about Ethier for the long term. He seems to me as big a question mark as Loney. I keep thinking of him as a candidate for a trade.
Someone suggested Van Slyke at 3rd base
Only one player in the history of baseball was 6’5 or taller and has garnered more then 500 major league at bats playing 3rd base. That player was a SS in College and moved to 3rd. I don’t mind people playing position games but lets keep it real and not suggest taking an average outfielder and average 1st baseman who is 6’5 and moving him to 3rd base. This blog is better then that.
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I don’t see Loney sticking around for much longer so it’s not like he’s guaranteed to be blocked at first. Moving him to third just doesn’t make any sense.
If he can hit major league pitching he’d be the perfect complement to either Loney or Andre.
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1.143 OPS against LHP
according to minor league central
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guess that rules out Griff too. 6’4"
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 13, 2011 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Yup
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
lets keep it real
I, for one, will continue to keep it bat-shit crazy and totally made up.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I think it would be fun to have that fake movie from real movies or shows discussion today
when more people will see it.
What are some of the best fake movies that are talked about in other real movies or tv shows?
My choice would be Death Blow from Seinfeld.
Add “Rochelle, Rochelle”, “Blame it on the Rain”, and “Prognosis Negative” to Seinfeld
In a year that has been so improbable, the impossible has happened
That's the name
I was trying to think of the movie with the shrunk people living in the paper bag. Good pull.
In a year that has been so improbable, the impossible has happened
yes but now we can have a giant discussion on it to kill time
At night discussions always die too early.
Some of the movies from Arrested Development looked interesting
Tom Jane in Homeless dad, and one other that I can’t remember. Something about a junkie.
Dr. Acula from Scrubs
I forgot Michael Scott’s movie name.
Phineas and Ferb has That Darn Fiancee
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Firestorm.
Who wouldn’t want to see Harrison Ford jump out of a plane then start shooting back at it?
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by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
And a helicopter lands on a car!
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by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions
“When someone tries to blow you up not for who you are, but for different reasons altogether.”
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by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
All the stuff at the beginning of Tropic Thunder would qualify for me
hilarious montage of terrible (but believable) movies.
Plus of course SImple Jack, which was mentioned before.
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Javier Solano
having an interesting winter so far
6 IP
0 Hits allowed
6 Walks
6 K’s
6 Wild Pitches
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Tigers Lineup
Jackson CF
Raburn RF
Cabrera 1B
Martinez DH
Young LF
Peralta SS
Inge 3B
Avila C
Santiago 2B
Verlander P
I like that Leyland has finally realized he should have Cabrera/VMart at 3/4 instead of 4/5.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
He first did it when Young, who normally bats third got hurt right? Maybe he would still be doing it if Young hadn’t gotten hurt. So he still may not have realized anything! :)
He still does have Alex Avila batting below Brandon Inge.
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by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions
He was doing that all season. And it’s Brandon Inge we’re talking about.
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by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Jon
Gives a shout out to Phil on his latest DT post and later tweets that tonight’s Community is the best episode of the season.
A family friend is a background extra on Community. She said that they just wrapped on an episode that was hilarious, which she thinks will be the one after Halloween, but that the Halloween episode was kind of meh.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Good timing, chase away what viewers you did have with an awful beginning, then bring in the great shows. Network exec’s still doing their best to suck at what they do.
On Modern Family last night I had quite an urge to throw that young WOW fuck through his window.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Jon said it, Alan Sepinwall said it, Jace Lacob said it…..I said it : )
by Josie Becker on Oct 13, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Lace Jacob would be a much better name than Jace Lacob.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I guess I was always a Brewer homer:)
Player Management:
In the 1st half of 2006, JJ Hardy hit 187/293/267 which is as horrible as you can hit. Did the Brewers panic and send him back to AAA like 25 other franchises would have done and install Bill Hall as the SS. No, they let him play and they were rewarded with the best SS in the NL when he posted a 308/363/503 line. This is an all-star SS. Prince Fielder will be an all-star 1st baseman. Weeks will be fighting Utley for the right to start in the all-star classic over the next 10 years. Their number one pick in 2005 was Braun a 3b who only posted a 1041 OPS in his 1st taste of ML ball and BP projects him to be a stud, so it is very possible that by 2008 the Brewer infield could be the best in baseball.
That is why the Brewers are getting so much love these days, because they earned it.
Not bad for 2006
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
The bar is not high, but I’m guessing no Chang, good episode
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
no Chang, bottle episode, alternate timelines. It’s brill
by Josie Becker on Oct 13, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Outfield
Boy, I feel like I forgot about Ethier’s hitting streak. Strange season. Whatever else happens, I expect him to be back for another year. Looking at the current playoff quartet, you simply have to have at least two solid/great hitters in the #3/#4 spots to contend. Assuming Fielder/Pujols are pipe dreams (and Loney’s “rebirth” probably seals that fate), I don’t see how we subtract our second-best hitter and still contend.
I think the third OF spot has to go to Sands. It’s bordering on no-brainerish to me. I think Gywnn Jr. is a perfect fit as a 4th OF in this configuration. (Bringing back Rivera is also a possibility, but he could just win the starting OF job outright—some risk there).
I’m curious what people think of Oeltjen. I never took him seriously, but like Sellers, he’s a viable candidate to be the last guy on the bench.
I’d be pretty happy with a Sands/Kemp/Ethier OF with Gwynn and Rivera on the bench, though I am thinking Rivera may be able to secure a starting spot somewhere else.
I don’t really think of Oeltjen at all and I don’t think the coaching staff does either given how sparinly he played toward the end. He is a good guy to have around to call up in case of injury but I’d rather give the bench spot to an infielder
I like Oeltjen on the bench in that he’ll take a walk, he can run, and reasonably play all three outfield spots if needed.
Not sure if the configuration works to have both Gwynn and Oeltjen since they both bat left-handed.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I’d rather lose some platoon advantage than pickup a right handed guy that’s bad at everything.
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by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions
I could see Ethier talking some shit about the team/ownership etc…, if the team was playing poorly nearing the trade deadline in an attempt to get moved. I could see him as fodder for the Red Sox for 2+ months before signing with the Diamondbacks the next offseason.
I can see Ethier talking shit if the team goes 100-0 in its first hundred games.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Valverde And Benoit Unavailable for Game 5
Verlander could make 130 pitches today.
Rangers Lineup
Kinsler 2B
Andrus SS
Hamilton CF
Young DH
Beltre 3B
Napoli C
Cruz RF
Murphy LF
Moreland 1B
Wilson P
Ken Tremendous (Michael Schur) tells us how he really feels about Red Sox ownership/mgmt mess
on Grantland
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7095696/the-collapse-red-sox
Dig the angry footnotes especially!
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Love it
He’s making my point!
If the Red Sox had won two more games last year — one in early April, say, and one in September — would any of this be happening? What if they’d gotten hot (or, really, just lukewarm) and won the ALDS? The ALCS even? What if — and this was absolutely possible — they’d won the World Series?
We know the answer, actually. Bob Hohler’s Boston Globe article probably isn’t written, or if it is, it’s one-fifth as long and entirely ignored, because: Who cares?
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
I know!
I like this, too
Boston, as cliché mongers are fond of pointing out, is a fishbowl. The narrative is like a hot pot underneath the fishbowl that cooks the fish alive.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
But you can’t do that! Because of painkillers and fried chicken. FRIED CHICKEN, I SAY!
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
what's wrong with chicken?
/Wade Boggs
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 13, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
And beer.
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by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
The best part will be when the Red Sox insanesuperteam doesn’t have 1000 things go wrong for them at the exact same time, they cruise to the playoffs easily, and it will all be because of whoever new Terry Francona is.
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by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
I've read the whole Schur article now
And may I borrow a line that Nolij had a few nights ago?
He said that the Hohler piece showed that “the problems cannot simply be solved by dumping Tito, or Theo, or one or two problem players.” After reading the Schur piece, I think that’s true, to a certain extent — if you have a system that makes your manager and GM both jump ship and spurs fans to call for the trade of your best players, then you have a system that is a problem.
The crazy thing is that it is a problem that nobody would care about if the Red Sox had won two more games.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Would be curious who the unprofessionals in the clubhouse are. My first guesses would be Ortiz and Lackey, my next would be Varitek. I think Tek and Ortiz are free agents, but Lackey is going nowhere.
what seems to be lost here
was when the won the world series, they where lauded for this kind of behavior, lauded as the antithesis to the “stuffy” yankees, where they not?
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
They were literally doing shots before games.
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by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
That Kevin Millar, what a character!
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by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
do you still sing the shots song when doing steroids?
by Josie Becker on Oct 13, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
You know what gets me in the mood for baseball? Fried chicken, beer, and video games. Just sayin’.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Also, it sure looks like “fried chicken” is becoming the new running gag of the “OMG Player Epic Fail” variety, and it is the best one of those since Matt Kemp moved a trash can.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
a Boston Globe article from Tuesday night / Wednesday’s paper, on the Red Sox collapse.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
The year they won the Series.
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by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
the Boston Globe
was calling for Beckett to get the boot
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 13, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Been thinking about Kershaw's future contract
Not so much the money but the years. My concern is Ned doing a deal that doesn’t lock up 2015 or beyond – the Kemp/Ethier/Broxton model – just to save some present money.
CK has been quoted as being open to anything. Hopefully he considers a five year extension with the idea of hitting free agency before age 30 and still getting a monster contract.
Sorry--I can't resist posting this
goat on October 12th, 2011 10:30 am
If the Reds aren’t dealing Votto, how about a 3 way deal to get someone like Matt Kemp or Alex Gordon instead? The Dodgers have an obvious interest in catching prospects, which the Reds can easily provide. Z does well in 3 way deals. We could probably get something useful back in addition to Kemp
From comments at ussmariner.com
"We can probably get something useful back IN ADDITION TO KEMP" Buahahahaha
/cries
/watches Idiocracy for 10th time
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/Perfectly describes a fan of USS Mariner.
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by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
by “does well in 3 team trades” they are refering to trading Eric Bedard at the deadline for career 8th outfielder Trayvon Robinson? Or trading JJ Putz, Sean Green, Luis Valbuena and Jeremy Reed for Franklin Gutierrez, Mike Carp, Ezequiel Carrera, Endy Chavez, Maikel Cleto, Aaron Heilman and Jason Vargas?
Okay, the second one worked out pretty well.
Trading I don’t even remember what for Cliff Lee worked out nicely.
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by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
I guess that wasn’t actually a three team trade.
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by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Someone like Matt Kemp or Alex Gordon. Matt Kemp or Alex Gordon. Um, ok.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Gordon wasn’t Kemp good, but he was still one of the best players in baseball this year.
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by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Alex Gordon was top-30 or so. Matt Kemp was top-1.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Hmmm
MVP candidate, or guy who’s had 1, albeit great year.
I would have been more accepting of Kemp or Granderson, though both are just as unlikely as the other.
Granderson is three years older and not as good. The list of guys like Kemp is very short — maybe Braun and Votto, although those two guys have sustained success a little bit longer, but weren’t quite as good this year at least.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Kemp has to come close to repeating his 2011 or have another 2009 season
to really be put in the overall discussion with Longoria, Votto, Hanley (I still believe in him), and a few others IMO. Taking account this year and talking about only 1 year sample sizes he’s most definitely up in the elite few, but once he has a year in-between 2009 and 2011 (and I don’t mean 2010) then he will really be in that discussion.
If you’re talking just talent and not production, you may be right and Kemp should be up there with very few others.
As opposed to the guy who’s had two good years?
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by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Granderson?
Based off fangraphs, he’s had 7.0 and 7.8 fwar seasons, then 4.3, 4.0, 3.5, and 2.9.
If you’re talking about Kemp:
1.8 (in 96 games), 3.5, 5.2, and 8.7. There is the .4 year inbetween, but it’s clear that’s not his true talent level by any means.
Alex Gordon never had better than a 3.0 WAR season in his career before this year. Yes, Granderson and Kemp are much more alike than Gordon is to either of them.
it’s not at all clear what Matt Kemp’s true talent level is, and that should be kept in mind when we get overjoyous about his 7 year 150 mil deal this offseason
Absolutely. My biggest fear (well, behind injuries to him or Kershaw, or letting those two go) is that we give him that huge contract and he turns into a pumpkin. I think he saw what happens when you don’t do well, and he does not want to repeat that mistake of a season.
That's a good point too
All he needs to do is look down the i5 and see how fans think of Vernon Wells.
Who knows. I expect he will be somewhat inconsistent. Over the next five years, he’ll may very well OPS+ 150+ twice and and 115-125 twice. How Dodgers fans feel about that is tough to say. Phillies fans are the absolute worst, but aren’t complaining excessively about Ryan Howard’s “production,” but Mets fans have spent years bitching about Carlos Beltran and he’s been pretty much as good as Howard, if not better.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I’d like the opportunity to bitch about a Beltran contract
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
people love RBIs
and despite a below .500 slugging he still put up insane amounts of RBIs this year. We all know he isn’t very good, but some people think he’s great.
RBI’s have become so over-rated by the stat crowd they are now under-rated.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
I was struggling the other day when making fun of him to a friend
despite the general not greatness of howard he still drives in runs in droves. That’s gotta be worth something, just not 25 mill a year or whatever.
He’s a good hitter that hits behind other good hitters.
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by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Who knew Hunter Pence was the best offensive player for the Phillies this year?
Only season Chase Utley had a lower wRC than Howard?
Carlos Ruiz is still a good player
Victorino sure sucked in Sept
As did Rollins and Chase. No wonder they blew chunks in Sept.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
RE: Beltran
He’s been awesome. He had 1 bad year with the Mets, and it wasn’t even too bad. Then he had 2 elite and 1 great season while pretty healthy, and a great season with only 81 games, then injury filled 2010 and awesome 2011 before traded.
Point being – Beltran was amazing over that contract. I’d kill for a more healthy but pretty much same contract and results for Kemp.
Minus the injuries.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
lolerskates
anyone who mentions Kemp or Kershaw in a trade proposal needs to be slapped very hard in the face repeatedly, Airplane style.
I can’t see the Reds trading Votto. If they would, they’d have to be overwhelmed by an offer involving pitchers.
funny, in 2010 their pitching may have been their strong suit
then this year came and bam. I’d be interested to see what kind of deal Votto could bring back.
I used to see those knockoff jackets all the time in SF by the Wharf, could not figure out how they weren’t being sued. Now I know.
by Josie Becker on Oct 13, 2011 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
it’s just a cease and desist right now, it’ll be interesting to see how MLB handles it
by Josie Becker on Oct 13, 2011 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
My reading comprehension is funky this morning, so help me, but I read it the other way:
MLB/Giants served third party with cease and desist. Third party says, show us your trademark. Letters go back and forth. Third party sues first, to protect themselves from future action, and as part of that, they served their own C&D on the Giants/MLB.
So my question is: these guys must know that no judge will actually make the Giants cease and desist, right? They are just trying to protect themselves (resulting in both parties using the SF script)? Could that work?
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
The Giants will get to keep the logo. Other company will get lots of money, may or may not get to keep logo.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
That is a much more concise way of putting what I was suggesting/wondering was possible.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
my guess is the company loses their trademark in the end
but I don’t really get patent law, I just know there is some concept of prior art.
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Hey, I know Joe Eskenazi! He wrote with me at the Daily Cal. Good dude, although not quite as funny as he thinks he is.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
when did you write for the Daily Cal? I was there 2003-2004 in the art dept.
by Josie Becker on Oct 13, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
96-99. Don’t listen to that turkey.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
oh cool. You left the Daily Cal when I graduated from 8th grade.
by Josie Becker on Oct 13, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
My Pandora just started playing “Let Me Clear My Throat” by DJ Kool. I feel like I’m in middle school again.
I have the opening riff in my head now. Damn it!
by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
I feel the whole 2011 Boston season is Karma for JD Drew.
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Ned Colletti is going to Chicago!
True story!
Join Ned Colletti for a Chicago Concert!
October 13, 2011 – Saturday night, October 22nd, the world famous Saban Theatre in Beverly Hills will rock like never before with a special performance by Chicago! With 100,000,000+ in record sales (that’s right full records- not just single track MP3’s!), 21 Top-10 singles, 5 Consecutive #1 albums, 11 #1 Singles, 25 Platinum Records…CHICAGO will rock and all for a good cause – their friend Ned Colletti’s charity, Guide Dogs of America and The Foundation Fighting Blindness.
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This paragraph, by the way, is loaded with tasty morsels and goodness.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Saban Theatre
The Foundation Fighting Blindness
by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Once upon a time the band Chicago was on the forefront of innovation. Amazing what they became from what they started out as. I guess if Rod Stewart can do “Every Picture Tells a Story” and end up doing “Do you think I’m sexy” anything is possible in music.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Europe and Asia suck. America sort of does too, though. Alligator lizards in the air? WTF
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Alabama is pretty much the best country rock group of all time.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Well if you aren't a fan of Hotel California then I guess you are right
its 0
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Hole in the World is a phenomenal song.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
New Kid in Town, Seven Bridges Road, etc….
by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Somebody's gonna hurt someone
Gonna be a Heartache Tonight
by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s just Henley solo.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Bryan Adams was the one who got his first real six string over at the five and dime.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
How the Ataris admitted that they were lamer than Don Henley.
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by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Crazy talk, might not be your liking but still that is crazy talk.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
I guess rock country is what I meant then. To the extent that the Eagles are on the Rock side of the spectrum, Alabama is just on the Country side.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Best driving music ever
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
I saw Kansas as an opening act for the Kinks at the old Shrine Auditorium. They had an electric violin, it was the first time I’d ever heard one in a “rock” band. They had not broke any singles yet.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
With their first LP they were better then Boston, but I know this is tongue in cheek question.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
There was never a rock band called Schenectady.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Neither Chicago nor Boston took my breath away as I was riding on the metro.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Only because Amanda wasn’t there with you, engaging in Foreplay. That would give you More Than a Feeling of breathlessness.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I wonder if there was ever a time while Frank Howard was playing first and a ground ball was hit to Maury Wills while the runner was going from first and Maury had to make the snap judgment 25, or 6 to 4?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I so had the hots for Terri Nunn
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah it was, played that baby to death
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Pointless stats time
Matt Kemp has more hits in the last 3 years of the top 35 in home runs in that span than all but 6 hitters.
He’s also tied for 7th in runs scored of the top 35 in home runs with Kinsler.
Now I’m off to look up more useless information!
All your first sentence says is
Of the top 35 home run hitters over the last three years, Matt Kemp is in the top 20% in hits.
So Nelson Cruz has 4 home runs in the ALCS so far
The Dodgers record for home runs in a postseason series is four, by Duke Snider twice (1952 World Series and 1955 World Series) and Steve Garvey once (1978 NLCS)
These men have all hit three home runs in a postseason series for the Dodgers:
Shawn Green, 2004 NLDS
Bill Madlock, 1985 NLCS
Davey Lopes, 1978 World Series
Reggie Smith, 1977 World Series
Do you remember Bill Madlock hitting three home runs in that series?
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
I just remember Madlock being really good as a late August pickup, then not being as good but still being OK in 1986.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
He was the standard for mid-year pick ups
until Marlon
by bhsportsguy on Oct 13, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
I had to look it up
Two were in St. Louis and one was in that fateful sixth game. Did you remember that Mike Marshall homered off Todd Worrell in the 8th for the short-lived lead.
by bhsportsguy on Oct 13, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
As expected, Ben Cherington, who was Theo’s right hand man, will be the next GM of the Red Sox, per Tim Brown.
Who is going to beat off Theo in Chicago?
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Seems strange to me that Ellsbury won a comeback player of the year award
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Also
whose fluky season was less likely?
Ellsbury or Granderson?
or equally fluky?
year of the center fielder
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Who will regress the most in 2012
Ellsbury
Granderson
Kemp
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Want to say Ellsbury since his power came out of nowhere, but I checked his home runs and they were legit, he wasn’t just poking things over the fence.
If I had to choose I’d have to say Kemp because he’s the only guy that didn’t really fix any hole in his game to have this year, but I think “regression” will mean “hits closer to 2009 instead of 2011”. All three will probably keep it going next year.
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by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I would say that Kershaw could have as good a year next season
and win 14 games
by bhsportsguy on Oct 13, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
You expected Ellsbury to be playing centerfield for the Red Sox this year
You expected Bartolo Colon to be chillin with Raul Mondesi somewhere in the Dominican with a bucket of Fried Chicken
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by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Excellent points
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
wasn't saying he was the best candidate
just that he belonged as a candidate
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I could understand Berkman, HOF type player who kind of sucked in 2010 to the point he was a platoon player and given away to the Yankee’s. But Ellsbury while injured in 2010, was just kind of an average player in 2008/2009.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Must be nice to suck bad enough to sign a contract for $8 million.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
sucked in comparison to his previous work.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Which is why I can see giving it to Berkman instead of Vogelsong, because Vogelsong was never really here.
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by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Totally, Giant fans have no fight in this field. It is not a “come out of nowhere award”, you have to have been something first.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Baseball America hasn’t announced it yet, but Matt Kemp won their 2011 Player of the Year award.
Roy Halladay won last year.
Wow
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
that seems post worthy.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Previous winners
2010 – Halladay
2009 – Joe Mauer
2008 – CC Sabathia
2007 – Alex Rodriguez
2006 – Johan Santana
2005 – Albert Pujols
2004 – Barry Bonds
2003 – Barry Bonds
2002 – Alex Rodriguez
2001 – Barry Bonds
2000 – Alex Rodriguez
1999 – Pedro Martinez
1998 – Mark McGwire
by bhsportsguy on Oct 13, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
That is an impressive list.
I guess we can look forward to some awful commercials starring Matt Kemp.
Taco Bell has done something I didn’t think was possible, they have made make sure I never spend another penny at their site until Brian Wilson’s beard is shaved by the black op’s.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Me to, you should do some research to show how he was jobbed
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
No one hyperbolizes like this guy - any guesses
The rebuilding of the brand can begin only when Epstein is officially gone. The Sox need to name Ben Cherington GM, then go about the business of regaining the fans’ trust. It would be nice if they’d hire a strong-willed field manager, but we fear they’re going to go with a no-name who’ll carry out the orders of Carmine the Computer, Tom Tippett, and Bill James.
The Sox expected to spend this winter preparing for the glorious 100th celebration of Fenway Park. Instead they are picking up pieces of their broken brand as they prepare to raise the third-place banner and celebrate Fenway’s centennial on April 20, 2012.
Maybe it’s time to show real fans that you are back in the business of baseball and junk "Sweet Caroline’’ in the middle of the eighth.
Bad times never seemed so bad.
Shuagnassey?
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by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Another favorite part of Shaugnessey's column
There are so many things wrong with the Sox at this hour, it’s difficult to know where to start. The manager is gone, the general manager is gone, the owners are in hiding, and the players are a loathsome lot totally unworthy of the money and adulation they receive.
Theo Epstein’s gone. It was a seismic event when he quit in 2005. This time, his departure is lost in the mix as the Sox go from freefall to nuclear fallout. The Fenway lawn is scorched earth.
Did we ever think the vaunted "new’’ owners would make Frank McCourt look good?
by bhsportsguy on Oct 13, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
So the owners are the reason the team capitulated to the Rays? The guys who gave Theo 160 Million to build a team? The guys who created a rotation that might have done better if it consisted of five Jon Ely’s in Sept?
Good God give me those guys.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Since this is the reaction of the writers, it so makes their collapse worthwhile. This might be the greatest whining I’ve ever read about.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
i do not know any Boston writers but Gammons and he would never write tripe like that. Did Plashke or Simers move East?
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
During the rain delay in Baltimore
“the Red Sox season is not going to end tonight, they live to play another day”
“the Rays are not going to win tonight.”
by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
I remember you posting that.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
BTW Posey and others made a good point
For the newspaper to speculate on Francona’s prescription pain pill issue and not have any evidence of it affecting his managing was just plain wrong.
by bhsportsguy on Oct 13, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Simple math
bad managing = pain pills
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
You know what they say about shit eating grins
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
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by fbihop on Oct 13, 2011 12:08 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
green
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 13, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Took me longer then it should have to get this
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
With all the music talk, I’m gonna try something that will undoubtedly be an epic failure. Everyone give me one song that I should download and I’ll try to make a playlist out of it. Note: I will not download anything by Kiss.
Or "So What"
off Kind of Blue album – Miles Davis Sextet
by bhsportsguy on Oct 13, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
There are at least 25 better songs by Chicago
Beginning with “Beginnings”.
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Mirror, Mirror (live version) – Blind Guardian
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 13, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Radar Love by Golden Earring
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Twilight Zone
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 13, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
"Eighties" by Killing Joke
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Awesome
I’m going to try and give you one of my favorite songs that may not be something someone else would give. Well, maybe a couple of the older guys might have.
I was tempted to go with an 80s song, but I’d suggest Suite Judy Blue Eyes - Crosby, Stills, and Nash
Jane’s Addiction – Three Days
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by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
or in a similar vein
sister ray by velvet underground..
trying to get you your moneys worth by suggesting 17 minute long songs
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 13, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Good choices!
You can always go with Sun Ra’s “Space Is the Place”, too.
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The Bleeding Heart Show by The New Pornographers.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I Hate To See You Baby Doing That Stuff
Lloyd Cole
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Good explaniation
by Jonah Keri why there are all these stories re Red Sox collapse.
Human beings are suckers for explanations. We can’t just accept that the Red Sox completed the biggest September collapse in baseball history. There has to be one simple, obvious reason why. If we just chalked it up to randomness and said it wouldn’t happen again if the season played out 277,999,999 times, that would be wholly unsatisfying to our human instincts. Bad things happen to bad people, good things happen to good people, right? If so much of life is beyond our control, that would be a terrifying thought.
Very understandably, we don’t like being terrified.
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