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Matt Kemp To Win Baseball America Major League Player Of The Year Award

PHOENIX, AZ - SEPTEMBER 26:  Matt Kemp #27 of the Los Angeles Dodgers hits a three run home run against the Arizona Diamondbacks during the first inning of the Major League Baseball game at Chase Field on September 26, 2011 in Phoenix, Arizona.  (Photo by Christian Petersen/Getty Images)

Matt Kemp will be named the Major League Player of the Year by Baseball America, making him the first Dodgers player to be so honored. The award hasn't yet been announced, but Kemp has won according to a tweet from Sports Management Partners, Kemp's agency headed by Dave Stewart.

Hopefully that won't be the only award Kemp wins this offseason. The National League MVP award won't be announced until November 22, so we have some time to prepare to be disappointed when Ryan Braun wins the award. Kemp is also a lock for one of the three National League outfielder Silver Slugger awards, which he also captured in 2009.

Baseball America has awarded a Major League Player of the Year award annually since 1998.

Baseball America MLB Player of the Year
Year Player Team
2011 Matt Kemp LA
2010 Roy Halladay Phi
2009 Joe Mauer Min
2008 CC Sabathia Cle/Mil
2007 Alex Rodriguez NYY
2006 Johan Santana Min
2005 Albert Pujols StL
2004 Barry Bonds SF
2003 Barry Bonds SF
2002 Alex Rodriguez Tex
2001 Barry Bonds SF
2000 Alex Rodriguez Sea
1999 Pedro Martinez Bos
1998 Mark McGwire StL

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by Julio Pena on Oct 13, 2011 12:45 PM PDT reply actions  

He might do it did it.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 12:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Sorry for making this so huge, but you gotta read the names

“Hello, welcome to the United States. Anything to declare?”

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 12:54 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

The the Rockies plane comes back from Toronto. Cargo: Nope, he’s rehabbing back in Denver.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 13, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good luck, Mr. Gorsky

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

If only it was true.

"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."

by Little Blue Bicycle on Oct 13, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

MLB Player of the Year > NL MVP

one would at least hope that winning this award would imply winning the other one. But of course it doesn’t.

by Xeifrank on Oct 13, 2011 12:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Some do, some don't

2011 Matt Kemp LA
2010 Roy Halladay (Won NL Cy Young Award, 6th in NL MVP)
2009 Joe Mauer (Won AL MVP)
2008 CC Sabathia (6th in NL MVP, 5th in NL Cy Young Award)
2007 Alex Rodriguez (Won AL MVP)
2006 Johan Santana (Won AL Cy Young, 6th in AL MVP)
2005 Albert Pujols (Won NL MVP)
2004 Barry Bonds (Won NL MVP)
2003 Barry Bonds (Won NL MVP)
2002 Alex Rodriguez (2nd in AL MVP)
2001 Barry Bonds Won NL MVP)
2000 Alex Rodriguez (3rd in AL MVP)
1999 Pedro Martinez (Won AL Cy Young, 2nd in AL MVP)
1998 Mark McGwire (2nd in NL MVP)

by bhsportsguy on Oct 13, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Poor CC. Only one to not finish in the top three of either MVP or Cy Young.

by fbihop on Oct 13, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I believe that was when he was traded to the Brewers midseason, so quite the accomplishment that he was that high in the voting in both those awards

by Billyum on Oct 13, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was that high after only half a season

very impressive. Much like the support Manny got for MVP for only 2 months with the Dodgers.

by Ivdown on Oct 13, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rafael Palmeiro’s Gold Glove would be a good name for a blog (late entry).

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wouldn’t it be best for a blog that only gets updated like 3-4 times/year?

by EMDarrow on Oct 13, 2011 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sosa winning the 1998 MVP was a joke.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 13, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

He did have an amazing year

And didn’t the Cubs take the wild card that year?

by The Dude Abides on Oct 13, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

So every non-pitcher BA winner since 2003 also won his league’s MVP. Before that, no, except 2001.

(Or : every BA winner since 2001 except 2002 also won his league’s MVP.)

by berkowit28 on Oct 13, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

The TBLA playlist:

I’m on to song 4, Radar Love by Golden Earring.

For everyone who suggested two songs, I downloaded the second and will put them after all the first choices. So go ahead and choose a second song if you want.

If you haven’t listed a song for me to listen to, just let me know and I’ll listen to it, in order of suggestion.

Here is the playlist so far (new #1 songs will slot in after The New Pornographers song):

by fbihop on Oct 13, 2011 1:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Only two of these songs were released in the last ten years: Anthology and The Bleeding Heart Show.

by fbihop on Oct 13, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Genesis – Firth of Fifth
Midnight Oil – Blue Sky Mine

by The Dude Abides on Oct 13, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Stone Temple Pilots – Interstate Love Song

by keithc13 on Oct 13, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

One of my favorite “rally” songs. Always gets me going.

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

William Shatner - Common People

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are my new favorite person.

by fbihop on Oct 13, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not "Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds"?

Or Nimoy singing “Proud Mary” is also excellent.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Oct 13, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Limelight – Rush

by G.Scott on Oct 13, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

"12XU" by Wire is my second song.

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by Julio Pena on Oct 13, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Was that Sun Ra one your first?

by fbihop on Oct 13, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, that was just a joke.

Go with Wire. Over ten minutes shorter.

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by Julio Pena on Oct 13, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I missed this thread

is there a theme to these song lists, or just songs people like?

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 13, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

songs you want to make fbihop listen to

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Meshuggah - I

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Quite possibly the hardest to search for so far.

by fbihop on Oct 13, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

hah don't do it!

unless you are into math metal and like 21 minute long songs

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

OK, then I won’t. Give me another one.

by fbihop on Oct 13, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Opeth - harvest

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

between the buried and me – any song they have ever made

animals for leaders – any song they have ever made

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

You gotta choose the songs, I’m trying to do as little work as possible.

by fbihop on Oct 13, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

K, give me a minute to think

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Im sure the easiest songs to find would be
Animals as Leaders – CAFO
Between the Buried and Me – Mordecai

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was listening to some dudes talk about how all Meshuggah sounds the same.. UH DUH, thats the point.. damn bandwagon metal fans

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

its grimdark and brutal

what more do people want?

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anything you hadn’t heard before that you especially like so far?

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve been familiar with all the bands except Can so far and that one was, uh, weird. Oh, and Blind Guardian. Neither were my favorite kinds of music, but weren’t necessarily bad.

by fbihop on Oct 13, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

hahaha

did you like the song? Mirror, Mirror?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 13, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was so long ago I barely remember what it sounds like.

by fbihop on Oct 13, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

But more seriously... here's an awesome little discovery (thanks to college radio) I made this year

BUDOS BAND. Album Budos Band III. Mostly instrumental but kicks serious ass. Any of the cuts.

Older: Wings, “Beware My Love.”

Also: Calexico, “Corona” or “Close Behind” (from two different albums)

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by underdog on Oct 13, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s way more than two songs. You gotta choose two!

by fbihop on Oct 13, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hm okay, the Wings song and Corona. Love em both

Budos Band, just check out that whole album at some point when you get a chance.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Oct 13, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=206f0dLjtds

I didn’t realize that the first time I heard the Calexico, and I loved Minutemen back in the day.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Oct 13, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

As soon as I heard the first note, I was like, “Hey! I know this song!”

by fbihop on Oct 13, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Country Joe and the Fish -."The “Fish” Cheer / I-Feel-Like-I’m-Fixin’-To-Die Rag" 3:44

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Oct 13, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, come on. If you’re gonna do a Country Joe and the Fish song, make it Not So Sweet Martha Lorraine.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

It hurts.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Oct 13, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here is where we are at

Common People by William Shatner is possibly the best song ever.

by fbihop on Oct 13, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

his Rocket Man was excellent too

by G.Scott on Oct 13, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

In all seriousness, the album with Common People is a really good one.

My roommate in college hated it.

by fbihop on Oct 13, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Loved Has Been the song

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Laughing that Golden Earring made the list twice

That looks fairly eclectic

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Since this needs something made recently

BT – The Unbreakable

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ain’t Too Proud To Beg – Frank Mc..The Temptations

by G.Scott on Oct 13, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can perform this song, impersonating Fred Schneider from the B-52’s.

I KNOW ya wanna LEAVE ME! but i reFUSE to LET YOU… GO!

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

TBLA Karaoke Night just got scheduled for 10/22 at Gabe’s

by G.Scott on Oct 13, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is not a definite no. That is a maybe.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

ha, okay i’ll put up a fanpost

by G.Scott on Oct 13, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

If he invites you to the love shack, run away.

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sex Pistols – God Save The Queen
Los Lobos – Set Me Free (Rosalee)

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 13, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like “Saint Behind the Glass” by LL.

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Greatest thing about that song, was the expectation level. Way back when the Toaster existed there was a blog with Will Carroll and a comedian whose name escapes me. They were the least interesting of the Toaster blogs but one day they did a musical rundown and they were all over the Has Been album, so I said what the hell and purchased it with zero expectation that it would something I’d listen to twice.

Blew my fucking socks off.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s the guy

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Second song:

Holland, 1945 by Neutral Milk Hotel

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love that album.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can listen to that album for a week straight

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Favorite song on possibly favorite album.

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s in my top ten albums, for sure, along with their label-mate Olivia Tremor Control’s Dusk at Cubist Castle.

But I think #1 right now, for me, is The Kinks are the Village Green Preservation Society.

Unless it’s Pet Sounds.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

some others

OK Computer—Radiohead
Astral Weeks—Van Morrison
The Harder They Come—Sountrack (Jimmy Cliff and others)

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmm, this sounds like quite the recommendation. I know nothing of this band so that will be fun. Anyone remember the days you heard music for the first time on an LP that oh so much better then the song that made you purchase the LP in the first place? Only a few I imagine

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, and if its your second song, let me know. I can’t keep track.

by fbihop on Oct 13, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Psycho

as covered by Elvis Costello


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can’t find this one. First one I haven’t been able to find…

by fbihop on Oct 13, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

3 hours and change later...

All done! This was fun, maybe I’ll do it again sometime next week.

Here is the final playlist:

by fbihop on Oct 13, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

cool

I liked the idea

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heckuva a fun idea


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

One more from me.

Love – Alone Again Or

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Oct 13, 2011 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lots of sucking on a ding dong.

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by Julio Pena on Oct 13, 2011 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

The New Teller – Jonathan Richman

by mintxcore on Oct 13, 2011 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

also

in the future, we should do a turntable.fm room. basically there are 5 djs and they take turns player a song.

by mintxcore on Oct 13, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

How many firewalls will that not work through?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

“login with facebook”

There’s one popular stopper.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I saw a weird uptick in traffic on the LA History blog today

And since there is a one to one correlation between TBLA members and people who read the LA History blog, I decided to write something new for y’all : )

My longest yet, but plenty of pictures, three different movie palaces, and the Captive Wild Woman!

by Josie Becker on Oct 13, 2011 1:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Josie, that was really good stuff.

My cousin was the private secretary for Ed Mann during the Chinese days. Can you imagine renaming the theater?

by jim hitchcock (railway) on Oct 13, 2011 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brewers Lineup

Morgan CF
Kotsay RF
Braun LF
Fielder 1B
Weeks 2B
Hairston 3B
Betancourt SS
Kottaras C
Wolf P

by Alex41592 on Oct 13, 2011 1:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Cardinals Lineup

Furcal SS
Craig RF
Pujols 1B
Freese 3B
Holliday LF
Molina C
Theriot 2B
Jay CF
Lohse P

Berkman sits.

by Alex41592 on Oct 13, 2011 1:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Freese in front of Holliday, eh?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 13, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

It feels weird that a potential series clincher is being played just after lunch. It makes it feel more lilliputian than it is.

by Josie Becker on Oct 13, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

if the yankees were in the ALCS these are all night games right?

by delias man on Oct 13, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think this is more about X-Factor than who the teams are but I don’t know for sure.

by Alex41592 on Oct 13, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

so did they air x factor last night anywhere?

by delias man on Oct 13, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

CBS rosterbation

link

They can probably make a run at Jose Reyes. His zealous personality would fit perfectly in Hollywood, just as his bat would atop the order. Gordon could be moved to second base and hit second. So the lineup would start: Reyes, Gordon, Kemp, Ethier (well, maybe, we’ll get to that … ).

Play Juan Uribe full time at third base. He’s not too old to bounce back from an injury-plagued campaign.

Dangle Ethier as a trade candidate. Even when he’s at his best, he’s not an elite player — yet many seem to view him as one. He’s a free agent at the end of 2012 and has had several episodes of complaining about the team and then backing off the comments. I wouldn’t necessarily come out and say he’s gone, but instead quietly shop him. If he can be dealt for prospects, Sands and Tony Gwynn Jr. are enough to fill out the outfield for the time being, while L.A. just treads water waiting for the ownership situation to be sorted out.

Give Loney one last chance. The 27 year old was one of the best hitters in the league in the last five weeks. If it was a fluke, the Dodgers can address first base next season. If the McCourt situation was different, a run at Fielder or Albert Pujols while selling high Loney would make a lot of sense, but I just don’t think they could pull that off financially at this point.

Bring Kuroda back for one more year. He wants to stay in L.A. anyway, and with De La Rosa on the shelf recovering from surgery, there’s a need for a stop-gap in the rotation.

If there’s any possible way to do so financially, Kemp needs a huge contract extension. He’s only 27 and can anchor the franchise for a long time. He’s also wildly popular, so this would at least send a message to the fans that the Dodgers are still very relevant.

by silverwidow on Oct 13, 2011 1:25 PM PDT reply actions  

i guess i can get on board with this

by delias man on Oct 13, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Other than the Loney part I’m for it.

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by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

If the Dodgers sign Reyes (which I think has about as much a chance as they do of singing me to play shortstop) then I think they have to stick with Loney.

by fbihop on Oct 13, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unless you replace Loney with a lower cost option.

At least in my mind Loney is a luxury we can’t afford. We’ll give him 6.5 million dollars, he’ll most likely do what he always does. I’d like to go hunting around and see if we can get that same below average production for 400 thousand.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do you really think there are

minor league free agents who could do that.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 13, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not free agents necessarily. Sands is one option that might come close. I’m a big fan of David Cooper of the Blue Jays. Maybe get one of the A’s cavalcade of unathletic slugs.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

We’re not aiming high here, we just want someone that has an okay shot at being a below average first baseman.

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by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is Jack Cust available? ;)

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can't see it happening

and I know Reg knows that to be true and he is sad about that.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 13, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh of course. In my mind Javy Guerra is getting shipped off for a Loney replacement and I know neither of those things would ever happen.

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by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Everyone’s been talking about whether or not to tender Loney. I hadn’t even thought of trading him . . . Loney, Guerra, and DeJesus for Gordon Beckham!

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why would you want a 2nd baseman who has been awful other then 1/2 a debut season?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here is where I wish I could find the picture of Gordon Beckham faceplanting.

by fbihop on Oct 13, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was so good at Georgia!

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 13, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

btw

Did you see my proposed package? Not exactly blue chips.

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Blake DeWitt is a better baseball player then Gordon Beckham.

If you trade Loney at his high point you don’t trade him for the worst fulltime hitting 2nd baseman in baseball. Maybe you trade James for him but not Jim.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Could Gordon reasonably be expected to be the 2012 starting 2b? If not, the idea won’t work.

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t see why not. Reyes has played some second base too.

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by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

ok

What would you spend on Reyes for it to be acceptable?

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought Reyes was looking for Crawford money. If so, this whole thing is a fantasy.

by silverwidow on Oct 13, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s unpopular to say here, but I could see Rollins in blue.

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I could see him in orange and black.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

ESPN could see that as well

by Grimjack on Oct 13, 2011 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t mind it. As long as hes not batting first or second

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I gotta ask, who else would bat there?

Also, he wants 5 years. Pass.

by G.Scott on Oct 13, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Miles is a better option at this point. I like Rollins but his OBP skills are not good.

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jimmy Rollins had 58 walks this year.

Aaron Miles has 62 walks in his last four years combined.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gnomey don’t play that

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 13, 2011 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

He had a better year than I thought but that career OBP isn’t good for a team that struggles to score runs

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

In a perfect world, Miles never takes another AB for the Dodgers.

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

looking for

and getting are two different things

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s hard to say. Without the injury history he’s one of the best free agents in a long time. 28, coming off a six win season, he would probably deserve more than Fielder.

With the injuries, I’m thinking the Beltre contract is a decent comp, with more vesting options. Something like 5/85 with two vesting options on it works for me.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I dunno about Reyes. I know he’s a valuable player, but he just had a huuuuuge season, a big outlier from what he usually does. I gotta think there’s somebody who will pay him based on that season, and not his overall career numbers.

If I’m right about what Reyes is gonna cost, I think what I’d rather do is pay a little more and get Fielder. For 2B, I gotta wonder if the Dodgers can find a superior defender who will cost about what Miles/Carroll will cost (even if he hits a little worse). I wonder if I’d rather go that way.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s not is the thing. When he was healthy he was just as good as he was this year.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I see, thanks.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d say the last thing the Dodgers will do is sign a multi year deal with a FA SS unless they sell high on Gordon and that ain’t happening.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

All the time, we hear about L.A. being Hollywood and people fitting in because they’re brash and arrogant, but who was the last brash superstar that was really “Hollywood” on the Dodgers? I guess Mike Piazza sort of applies, but he blew up in New York. Besides him, the only guy I can think of that fit that was Steve Garvey. Many of the beloved Dodger icons were very humble, reserved guys — Koufax, Valenzuela, Scully. I don’t get the media’s insistence on making the Dodgers out to be “Hollywood” especially as it relates to drawing free agents.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 13, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Matt Kemp dated a superstar.

Russell Martin partied like one.

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by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Daryl Strawberry comes to mind.

Never thought of Piazza as brash.

Whenever I read stuff like that I know it was written by someone not from Los Angeles.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Manny was (in a way)

Johnny Damon would’ve been Hollywood.

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Manny was weird. I guess that’s a form of “Hollywood.”

Would’ve been doesn’t count.

Darryl mostly works. I just don’t remember him getting all of the endorsements and extras that supposedly come with Hollywooding it up.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 13, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Manny was bigger then life but how did Manny use Hollywood?

Not like he went Baron Davis and became a director

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn’t read the question as anyone having to be literally in the movies, just a big Hollywood-type star.

“who was the last brash superstar that was really "Hollywood" on the Dodgers?” Manny.

by berkowit28 on Oct 13, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Drysdale

Durocher

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 13, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

In the Burn Hollywood Burn sense sure.

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

In the “he’s an arrogant bastard, I’m sure he’ll be fine in laid back socal where they won’t give a shit like those uptight Upper Northeast arrogant bastards”

by G.Scott on Oct 13, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Verlander’s been pretty bad this post season, maybe having him throw 120 pitches a night was a bad idea.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 1:32 PM PDT reply actions  

He’s just regressing towards the Lilly.

by Xeifrank on Oct 13, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Statistically speaking

Lilly has the best “l”-to-other letter surname ratio in baseball.

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Suck it Tim/Sherm Lollar!

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 13, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe all of his posturing about pitchers being wussies these days this year was to gas everyone elses pitchers for the playoffs.

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by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

ha ha

Or maybe Verlander didn’t get to face the Ranger lineup 35 times. Being in the AL Central has it’s perks.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wilson with an easy first inning.

by Alex41592 on Oct 13, 2011 1:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Ice the ginger ale!

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Verlander

comes back with a seven pitch inning.

by Alex41592 on Oct 13, 2011 1:46 PM PDT reply actions  

No problem. Just keep to the script guys.

by Xeifrank on Oct 13, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I never realized this
The Mets signed Nelson Cruz in 1998 out of the Dominican Republic when he was just 18 years old. He was traded in 2000 by Steve Phillips to the A’s for Jorge Velandia.

via metsblog.com

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 1:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Nelson has had quite a journey and during that journey has been dealt for a bunch of ragmuffins.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry for long quotation
Matthew Cerrone: I see a lot of revisionist history going on, as people question why Phillips traded Cruz to the A’s. The thing is, he was signed at 18 and spent the next year and half in instructional leagues; and so he never even had a professional at bat while in the Mets organization. He was so young. In fact, as best I can tell, like most big kids his age, Cruz was labeled as being ‘raw,’ with power potential, but with a very big swing and concerns about his plate discipline. He was traded by Phillips for Jorge Velandia (as the Mets were contending for the post season). Upon getting to the A’s, he played rookie ball the following summer (where he struck out 29 times in 23 games). He didn’t get to Double-A until 2004 – exactly four years after the Mets traded him (and six years after being signed). In 2005, he started showing more discipline at the plate, but was traded to the Brewers, who eventually traded him in 2006 to the Rangers, with whom he spent two more years in the minors. Finally, in 2009, at 29 years old (nearly nine years after leaving the Mets), Cruz became an impactful, every-day player in the big leagues. That is a long and very rare road, on which lots could go right or wrong.

http://www.metsblog.com/2011/10/13/why-did-the-mets-trade-nelson-cruz-in-2000/

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 1:50 PM PDT reply actions  

TLDNR

Steve Phillips sucks!

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes

but his goatee was always impeccably trimmed on air.

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

should say irregardless

but Im guilty of saying it all the time.. trying to stop.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 13, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

A Scot

used “whilst” in an email to me today.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 13, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I truly dislike “whilst.” I want to scream WHILE WHILE WHILE

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cool a new word to bug members with.
to/too
then/than
whilst/while

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

their/there/they’re

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Oct 13, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

lay/lie

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 13, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

fink

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 13, 2011 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

special lady/fucking lady friend

by The Dude Abides on Oct 13, 2011 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

The ole

strike out advance to first on wild pitch dropped third strike trick.

by Xeifrank on Oct 13, 2011 2:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Next NBA deadline:

Deal by this Tuesday or Christmas games are gone.

by Alex41592 on Oct 13, 2011 2:05 PM PDT reply actions  

If the NBA season gets cancelled, the NHL should have some kind of marketing campaign, like NHL: Game On.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or

NHL: We also let too many teams in the playoffs.

by Xeifrank on Oct 13, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

haha

thats how I feel every damn year

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

NHL: Someone talk about us without mentioning we lost an entire season because of a labor dispute.

by fbihop on Oct 13, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

NHL: We stink on ice

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 13, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

NHL: Where the KKK calls home

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

NHL: We’re ok with being sloppy seconds now

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 13, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

NHL: Now With More Color!

by G.Scott on Oct 13, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Opposite field shot that just kept carrying. 1-1.

by Alex41592 on Oct 13, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

3 or 4 feet over the 360 left field fence. Opposite field, apparently : )

by Josie Becker on Oct 13, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Getting interesting as Detroit is threatening for more.

by Xeifrank on Oct 13, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Joe buck

Was too busy talking about potato chips when it happened.

by shaqfor3 on Oct 13, 2011 2:19 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, I came here just to bitch about that. We just re-arranged the living room, though, so I don’t have the tuner set up. Not sure if radio would be any better …

by TopDeckTrueBlue on Oct 13, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

If I had to listen to Joe Buck, I’d “rearrange the living room” too.

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

ESPN Radio is roughly 1,872% better.

by Alex41592 on Oct 13, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

CJ Wilson isn’t doing much this postseaon to get that 100 Million deal you all told me he was going to get.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 2:13 PM PDT reply actions  

one person said 100million

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Two games in the World Series will erase a lot of mediocrity. To wit, Juan Uribe.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 13, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

One swing will erase mediocrity

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

2 didn't do much

for renteria. course he was probably below mediocrity at that point.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

age does matter, the fact he even got a major league contract might be attributable to his World Series play.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

You comparing a life longs work of CC to two years worth of CJ?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Normally they are not relevant, but when you only have two years of success, I think it might matter if you get that fifth year which is what CJ is going to need to get the real big bucks. I’ve heard 5/75 which I think is fantasy but we shall see since both the Sox and Yankee’s need pitching.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

its what the best non cy young winning pitchers have gotten over the last couple years

it makes sense as a forecast.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes, but just about all of them had a history longer then two years as a starter. CJ is quite unique, in that he’s a free agent, been very good for two years , but that is the end of the track record. So he’s going to get a contract age age 31 that will be 2 /1 2 times longer then he’s pitched as a starter. Going to be interesting to see who gives him that fifth year.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

going by the things GMs probably look at(namely not WAR and x-fip)

he compares well to Burnett before burnett hit FA, and he lacks Burnetts injury history.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

ERA

3.98 then 3.75 era, then 4.07, then BOOM money. CJ Wilson, 2.81 era, 3.35 era, then 2.94 era, BOOM money?

That includes when wilson was a reliever though.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

burnett

lowe.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wilson’s interesting. At age 30, he’s had exactly two good years as a starter (granted he was converted). Upon closer inspection, those years were really good. No reason to think he can’t be a #2-ish type pitcher for the next few years. This is where the multiyear thing gets crazy. 3y is totally reasonable, even at a high salary. 5 years is getting ridiculous.

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s stuff like that that made Ned give Lilly “only” 33m for 3y. And Uribe 21m.

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

even if you go

2012: 4.0 WAR
2013: 3.5 WR
2014: 3.0 WAR
2015: 2.5 WAR
2016: 2.0 WAR

You are still looking at a net worth of around $80M

by Xeifrank on Oct 13, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

because that is what GM’s do.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Phil says GM won’t look at WAR/$ to determine how much to give him, you’re just using WAR to show what he’ll be worth and not what he’ll necessarily get.

Did I get that right?

by G.Scott on Oct 13, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

seemed obvious to me

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Guess I didn’t see how it was applicable to whether or not he would be worth 5/$75M. Who cares how they come up with their numbers.

by Xeifrank on Oct 13, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I am just showing what he is worth over 5 years (swag). I am sure some GMs do it this way and others don’t but can come up with a decent number using comps, but probably with larger error bars.

by Xeifrank on Oct 13, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

supply and demand

he’ll get even more $$$ if hes one of the only top flight free agents out there.. not sure what cc has up his sleeve but I would imagine it would mostly be the yankees bidding against themselves..

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 13, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

for sure

all it takes is one team (should be mlb’s slogan).

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, those usually work out, even for people with way longer pedigree’s. You might be right, I’ll guess I’ll have to see it to believe it.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

For the record, I think Xei is right too. i just think it’s foolish.

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup, they would be better of looking for the next CJ Wilson. They are growing on tree’s, they can’t all have been sitting in the Texas bullpen.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

to many obstacles

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Enter Kuo amirite?

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha ha

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously though. That would be a great project. Find the next guy who could go from bullpen to rotation. Don’t know what we’d be looking for, but we’d know when we found it. Troncoso was a guy for a time who looked like a possibility. In our current group, hard to see anyone.

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t want to walk Raburn to get to Miggy here.

by Xeifrank on Oct 13, 2011 2:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Yes you do:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha ha, just seems he hasn’t been able to get past the fifth inning. Then again I’d rather have Ogando pitching than CJ by the sixth too.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll give you credit. You’ve been on Ogando all year.

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh
RT @AaronGleeman
“I wish Joe Buck would talk more about football during this postseason baseball game.” – no one

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Oct 13, 2011 2:31 PM PDT reply actions  

ftfy

RT @AaronGleeman
"I wish Joe Buck would talk more about football during this postseason baseball game." – no one

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 13, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

heh basically

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Oct 13, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Delmon Young says, “I got your DP right here.”

by Alex41592 on Oct 13, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just listened to Ray J again last night. Mad wanted to know why Kim blew up after she blew down, but Ray J never did.

My answer: make better music.

by G.Scott on Oct 13, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Phone died, going to get a new one tonight. Might finally pick up my first smartphone. Any suggestions if all I want are google maps, sigalert app and facebook/twitter?

by G.Scott on Oct 13, 2011 2:41 PM PDT reply actions  

sigalert app is absolute trash. dont ever ever ever trust it. i got burned for the last time ever this morning.

by delias man on Oct 13, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I only ever use it when I’m heading home from work, but I can usually just use the internet before i leave to do that.

by G.Scott on Oct 13, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I only use it when I want to know wtf is happening since they have blurbs on it about ambulances en route, things in lanes, etc.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 13, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not sure about the phone stuff. But I had a T-Bone steak and lobster tail + salad bar + soda refills for $4.25 today at lunch.

by Xeifrank on Oct 13, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

you will pay for that later!

by delias man on Oct 13, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Vegas or strip club? Maybe both?

by G.Scott on Oct 13, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

You seem more like a Droid than an Iphone person, but any chance to irritate Nolander by announcing you purchased an Apple product should not be missed

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

No lie, this crossed my mind as well.

by G.Scott on Oct 13, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

with their new ui updates

the iphone is more like droid then ever. Maybe the iphone 5 will do something that isn’t ripped straight from someone else.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

ftfy
any chance to irritate Nolander by announcing you purchased an Apple product should not be missed

;p

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

if you are going to be spending the 30 bucks a month

you might as well get a phone that can do it all.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

with iOS5, all messaging between iPhones is unlimited, which might sway your decision if you know anyone with an iPhone

by Josie Becker on Oct 13, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

but i’d still end up paying the monthly rate for unlimited messages anyway, i assume. Frankly, if it costs more than I’m willing to pay I’m just going to get a flip phone again. I don’t really have the means or the need to spend $150 a month on a phone for unlimited data and messaging on top of the phone plan itself.

by G.Scott on Oct 13, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

or the thunderbolt

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

thanks, i’ll keep an eye out

by G.Scott on Oct 13, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

or the Samsung Charge

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

It probably wouldn’t be hugely expensive if you merged your plan with Maddz’. Unless you have some cheap talk plan that doesn’t exist anymore.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

My family gets a deal through my/mom’s work so it’s cheaper for me (free) to stay with her. She also said I could get a smartphone and just pay her the difference in cost between my existing plan and the new rate, so I might be okay. I’m still not okay paying $30/mo for data and $30/mo for texting.

by G.Scott on Oct 13, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who the hell charges 30 for texting?

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

my unlimited plan with AT&T is half that if I remember

by Josie Becker on Oct 13, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I could be wrong. I thought normal was like $30 for data, $30 for texting, on top of whatever your phone plan was. I’d be thrilled to be wrong

by G.Scott on Oct 13, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

as is the basic data plan, which is all you need if you’re not going to use it for more than web surfing

by Josie Becker on Oct 13, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately AT&T took away all but their most expensive texting plan so unless everyone you know has an iPhone you’re not saving jack!

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I figured AT&T would find a way to fight back, no way they just give up that revenue.

by Josie Becker on Oct 13, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

more like android then ever!

wait till you guys get the pulldown notification bar that I’ve had since 2009, it’ll blow your mind! :-p

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm looking forward to that, sir!

I love the people who go back and forth debating apple or droid, I just get the phone I like whether or not it’s one or the other. I’ve been Iphone for a couple years now, but I very nearly got the first Droid when it came out, but thought i’d try THE FUTURE!

by Ivdown on Oct 13, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

but thought i’d try THE FUTURE!

then you chose the wrong phone

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

At the time the Iphone was more futuristic than any piece of technology I had ever seen in person

Im happy with my choice, and then the 4G after. My next one I might consider something besides an Iphone.

by Ivdown on Oct 13, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Game tied. Hamilton RBI single.

by Alex41592 on Oct 13, 2011 2:57 PM PDT reply actions  

VERLANDER NO

BAD VERLANDER

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 2:57 PM PDT reply actions  

And finishes Michael Young with an 86 MPH curveball.

by Alex41592 on Oct 13, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh my gosh. Beltre misses a home run by two feet.

by Alex41592 on Oct 13, 2011 3:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Two heart attack swings from Beltre. But 2nd one is an out.

Tiger fans exhaled enough to power a city.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Oct 13, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Halfway there. Tied at 2.

by Alex41592 on Oct 13, 2011 3:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Jack Black has made a career out of being in incredibly horrible movies.

by fbihop on Oct 13, 2011 3:10 PM PDT reply actions  

But his girth to hip flexibility ratio is amazing.

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by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d be willing to bet his good movie:bad movie ratio is on par with a lot of critically acclaimed actors. Dude makes for a great character actor. Tropic Thunder and School of Rock come to mind.

by G.Scott on Oct 13, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Orange County

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by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

the Jackal, it was brief but it was Jack Black

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kung Fu Panda was good, as was King Kong

by G.Scott on Oct 13, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

never saw King Kong but Kung Fu Panda is great

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

King Kong wasn't bad

but it was way too long

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by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

You don’t have to do the CHHH it already does the CHHH CHHHH

Roger CHHH CHHH

Sorry CHHH

by G.Scott on Oct 13, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Comingtoyaaaahaaaa!

that was my first strike call for umpiring when I was a teen.

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is because Steve Zahn is in it.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve always liked Steve Zahn.

by fbihop on Oct 13, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

You just mentioned my 2nd favorite actor!

Mel Gibson then Steve Zahn :) I don’t think I’ve seen a movie he’s been in or a role he’s had that I haven’t liked at least a little.

Joy Ride wasn’t a good movie by anyone’s standards, but I really enjoyed Zahn in it.

National Security? Awful movie, but I enjoyed the back and forth between Zahn and Lawrence.

by Ivdown on Oct 13, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

a lot of movies these days are crappy with funny scenes or some good acting but I think Saving Silverman was a good movie

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d agree

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Saving Silverman was worth it for R. Lee Ermey alone (that, and the Neil Diamond cover band)

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I also love “What should we do with her?” and without skipping a beat Ermey said “Kill the bitch.” (Or does he say ‘snuff’? I’d like to think he said ‘snuff’)

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

His IMDB of movies he had a big part of since 2000f:

The Big Year
Kung Fu Panda 2
Gulliver’s Travels
Year One
Tropic Thunder
Kung Fu Panda
Be Kind Rewind
Margot at the Wedding
The Holiday
Tenacis D in the Pick of Destiny
Nacho Libre
King Kong
Shark Tale
Orange County
Shallow Hal
Saving Silverman
High Fidelity

by fbihop on Oct 13, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

He good. Or, his agent good.

by G.Scott on Oct 13, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Liked

High Fidelity
Saving Silverman
Be Kind Rewind – liked this alot
Tropic Thunder
Year One

Animation:
Kung Fu

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

also liked the rock n roll school movie that he made his mark in.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

School of Rock should be in there somewhere too, around Orange County.

by fbihop on Oct 13, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought he single-handedly ruined King Kong.

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

King Kong was ruined by whoever wrote the script.

by VegasBlues on Oct 13, 2011 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I forgot about the pick of destiny, another Jack Black movie I like. I am a fan of the duo

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder what that ratio for Robert Deniro is right now

He’s been in some shitty ass looking movies the last 10 years.

by Ivdown on Oct 13, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can’t recall anything watchable since Casino.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 13, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Midnight Run is still one of my favorite movies.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

great flick

except for all the mismatched partner movies it inspired.

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Upon checking his imdb, Wag the Dog was 1997. Nothing since then. Stardust was actually decent despite Bob’s attempts to torpedo it.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 13, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I liked Stardust

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Originally a book by Neil Gaiman

just finished reading American Gods. Good good book on track to become an HBO miniseries

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by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

The melody haunts my reverie and I am once again with you, when our love was new and each kiss an inspiration, but that was long ago, and now my consolation is lost in the star dust of a song.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Basically all true. I did recently give Stone a watch and it was better

than most of his recent stuff. he and Norton were good but the story didn’t grab me all that much.

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by underdog on Oct 13, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Everybody’s Fine was good, enjoyed the Focker’s series, he was good in Righteous Kill.

by G.Scott on Oct 13, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

It jumped the shark

with Deniro’s character. Its kind of similar to the difference from Legally Blond to Legally Blond 2.

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by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Never saw the first or last, but Meet the Parents was so unbelievably bad that I wanted to cry.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 13, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

That new one with Steve Martin?

Yeah, looks like utter shite.

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by Julio Pena on Oct 13, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I blame Owen Wilson

why won’t he just go away?

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by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now that is a go who makes a lot of bad movies.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wedding Crashers and Night at the Museum were fun.

by G.Scott on Oct 13, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

any movie I can think of that I don't hate him in

he is a sidekick. That movie was all about Vince Vaun.

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by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I liked him in the royal tenenbaums

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

ok

score one for owen wilson, and even then that was a pretty large ensemble.

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by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh yeah, no doubt. I agree with you about him not being good in a lead tho.

Im not a Owen Wilson fan by any means

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

That movie was really good

I thought it would be awful, luckily I caught it on USA one morning and was pleasantly surprised.

by Ivdown on Oct 13, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would try to see it unedited

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I sometimes confuse him with Matthew McConnaghey when recalling movies.

by G.Scott on Oct 13, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Have to give Owen credit, not many actors get gigs with his nasal tone and crazy looking honker.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

he tried to go away and they saved him

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bottle Rocket is a minor classic in my opinion.

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tropic Thunder and High Fidelity disagree with this statement.

by Grimjack on Oct 13, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

he has been in about 5 good movies

and another 20 completely horrible ones. I just don’t watch the bad ones.

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by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just don’t watch movies that he headlines.

by Grimjack on Oct 13, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

How many actors are truly in more good movies than bad

Tom Hanks may be one guy who is in more good than bad off the top of my head.

by Ivdown on Oct 13, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

good pick

I didn’t like him back in the Titanic days, but almost everything else since then has been very good.

Catch Me If you Can
The Departed
Shutter Island
Blood Diamond (I’ve heard, just never seen)

I know I’m missing some great one’s I’m sure, the first 3 are by far my favorites of his.

by Ivdown on Oct 13, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gilbert Grape and This Boy’s Life are two really good ones

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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 13, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Inception

Just watched it recently. It was cool.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I still have no idea why people were confused by it.

by fbihop on Oct 13, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

the ending was ambiguous

not confusing

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by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

does it fall down?

because weebles don’t

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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 13, 2011 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

some people just aren't... cerebral?

not dumb per say, but they don’t usually seek out things that challenge them intellectually, so something that seems straight forward to those used to dealing with more confusing movies and literature have an easier time grasping it? Maybe?

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by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

a nice way of saying

“Get a brain morans!”

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by underdog on Oct 13, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

;-)

(But you were nicer than me)

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by underdog on Oct 13, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

different types of intelligence perhaps :)

some people don’t like having to think critically.

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by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some people recognize nonsense and lose interest. Even smart ones.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

except that applies in no way shape or form here

because these are people who liked the movie but somehow found it confusing.

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by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I watched the whole thing. The movie kept me intrigued the whole time, and they kept the narrative more or less tight within the context they created. Except, you know, when they didn’t.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 13, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I understood it and followed it no problem

I just thought it was silly

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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 13, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was just a heist movie.

by fbihop on Oct 13, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

It wasn’t so much confusing as it was nonsensical.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 13, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can't believe that slipped my mind

I prefer Shutter Island and The Departed, actually, but still good.

by Ivdown on Oct 13, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Inception. The story was nonsense, but the elements of the movie were well-done.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 13, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have it sitting on the DVR to rewatch (my wife is mildly interested). I remembering not caring about the main problem (father/son business something or other). Agree it was a very thin conceit for a high-concept movie.

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

ive had it on my DVR

for weeks. my wife is interested enough in seeing it that i have to wait to watch it.

but im not really antsy for it

by mintxcore on Oct 13, 2011 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

the main problem was his wife and getting to see his kids again

the father son problem was just a means to an end

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by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kurt Russell has a pretty good ratio.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 13, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also: really nice guy. Really level-headed and down-to-earth.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is this sarcastic or true? Just curious because I’ve always liked him and just the fact he did Big Trouble in Little China the way he did makes me want to believe he’s a cool cat.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

True, no sarcasm. I really liked working with him.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

makes me happy to hear

love the Snake Plissken movies

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 13, 2011 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

LA was meh but NY is a classic.

Snake Plissken = Solid Snake? love it

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I played soccer against him in the mid-seventies in Simi Valley. Got to talk to him after the game. Nice guy.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Oct 13, 2011 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I played basketball against Harry Shearer in the mid-eighties. (My best Hollywood story.)

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

The original The Thing!

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by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Um... the really good second one, you mean. :)

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by underdog on Oct 13, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

right right

not the one from 1930

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by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

1951

One more pitch before you strike out ;)

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by underdog on Oct 13, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

the novella was from 1938

so I’m sure you can understand the mixup

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by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Of course! (Hee)

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by underdog on Oct 13, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is the best one

Howard Hawks FTW

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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 13, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tango and Cash was a fun movie when I was a kid

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

It isn’t just “Bad,” though. He stars in a lot of remarkably, soul-suckingly horrible movies.

Always in good movies: Jeff Bridges.

by fbihop on Oct 13, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, just looked at his imdb after I wrote that. Well, he’s in a lot of really good movies?

by fbihop on Oct 13, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

But original Tron was awesome

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wrong

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 13, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, it didn’t even have Nick Cage in it

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

A weird one: Gene Hackman.

He’s in plenty of bad movies, but the fact that he’s in them makes them good movies.

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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m whiffing on bad movies Gene has been in.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Depending on the mood you were in, The Royal Tannenbaums seemed hit or miss.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

i loved

Fantastic Mr Fox
The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou
Rushmore

but I am mixed on The Darjeeling Limited

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fantastic Mr. Fox never gets old for me.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I found the Life aquatic very enjoyable.

by Grimjack on Oct 13, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I liked it

but there gets to be a point where Wes Anderson seems to be parodying himself.

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by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

again

Bottle Rocket is the one to watch.

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heist is the only one that comes to mind.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 13, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

To this day, I quote the line, “Everybody loves money. That’s why they call it money.”

And Bride says, “You’ve been quoting that line for ten years, and it still doesn’t make any fucking sense.”

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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wasn’t it “Everyone needs money”? But still it makes no sense.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 13, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Very few bad films and he hasn't been in anything in ages

but besides Superman 4, The Package, Full Moon in Blue Water and gahhhh Loose Cannons were all pretty bad or at least mediocre.

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by underdog on Oct 13, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Package is what I was specifically thinking of. It is not good. But you can watch it for Hackman.

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Robert Duvall has made just about every show he’s been in watchable.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d never seen Tender Mercies until a couple of years ago.

Holy crap, is that a good movie, and holy crap is Duvall good in it.

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by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Holy crap indeed. One hell of a good screenplay by Horton Foote, too.

That Jeff Bridges movie tried to be that but wasn’t even close.

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by underdog on Oct 13, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right. Starman.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 13, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh

I meant Crazy Heart of course. Bridges was very good in it (as he was in Starman). But Tender Mercies is outstanding.

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by underdog on Oct 13, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

His appearance in Apocalypse now might be my favorite acting role ever.

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Secondhand Lions

FTMFW

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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 13, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m a total sucker for Adventure.

All three main guys were really good in that film.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 13, 2011 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

HE WAS BOO RADLEY?!

mind = blown

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by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep

and the cabbie in Bullitt
and the lead in THX1138
And the original Ned Pepper

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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 13, 2011 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mel Gibson had a good run

by Alex41592 on Oct 13, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

My favorite actor

Braveheart (never seen it)
Payback
The Patriot
Ransom
Lethal Weapon 1 and 2
Air America (Robert Downey Jr was great too)
Signs
all awesome movies (braveheart is word of mouth and reputation)

I think I’m missing some of his big ones but i’d watch any of these at any time.

by Ivdown on Oct 13, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

You walk right into these, man.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like what I like

Also my favorite actor gets more leeway than everyone else :) I didn’t list Lethal Weapon 3 and 4, as they aren’t good, but hot damn do I enjoy them (4 way more than 3).

by Ivdown on Oct 13, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like what I like

Also my favorite actor gets more leeway than everyone else :) I didn’t list Lethal Weapon 3 and 4, as they aren’t good, but hot damn do I enjoy them (4 way more than 3).

by Ivdown on Oct 13, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ugghhhh....

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by underdog on Oct 13, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

How have you not seen Braveheart

by G.Scott on Oct 13, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I completely glossed over that WTF moment

More importantly, how is Mel Gibson your favorite actor if you haven’t seen Braveheart?

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not sure how or why

But the concept of the movie has NEVER made me want to see it enough to actually go watch it. Haven’t seen the Mad Max movies either.

by Ivdown on Oct 13, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude, it’s a movie about revolution. How could you not like the premise?

by G.Scott on Oct 13, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Quite an incomplete list for your favorite actor.
Best acting he did was Year of Living Dangerously
Mad Max Series is as fun as you can have in a dead world

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Have not seen it, so can’t comment.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I watched it some class once.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gallipoli is awesome.

So are the first two Mad Max movies.

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by underdog on Oct 13, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tina Turner did float your boat in Thunderdoom?

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not really

Not a bad one but nowhere near as groundbreakingly cool and enthralling as first two. (Esp Road Warrior)

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by underdog on Oct 13, 2011 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Mad Max was the first of it’s kind for that genre so it gets lots of points for that.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

just walk away

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

It really is like ivdown calls Gibson his favorite actor but has only seen his bad movies.

Maybe if iv ever sees Mel Gibson’s good movies, he won’t be his favorite actor anymore. The mind boggles!

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s times like these we need iiidown. Just no standards in Downtown.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

My mind is certainly boggled.

Or at least turbed,

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by underdog on Oct 13, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yet you liked The Patriot?

by VegasBlues on Oct 13, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks, that’s the movie I was looking for.

Yet you liked The Patriot?!

by G.Scott on Oct 13, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have a good story about The Patriot.

Our high school soccer team would go to an out of town tournament every year at the start of the season. It was my junior year, and I barely made the varsity team. We played against a team that we were WAY better then (literally had 40 shots and lost 2-1), so our coach was the opposite of happy.

The coach was Coach Magee, a 6’2" really muscular guy who would turn extremely red when he was angry. He would yell and when he was really mad, he would take his straw hat off his head and rip it in half. He was pretty scary.

Anyway, to compound things, a lot of people showed up late for dinner. This made him even more angry. We ended up having an 8:00 curfew that night because of everything and we knew that when we got back home we would have a lot of sprints to run.

The Patriot was on TV, the only thing worth watching on the hotel’s cable system. So people in every room were watching the same movie and we were calling each other and talking about it. Since we couldn’t leave our room.

I got up to open the window just as the scene where someone throws the hatchet and hits someone in the head. My friend decides to emulate that scene by throwing his Gatorade bottle at me as I open the window. He misses, hits the window and it shatters.

We all freeze then hear a knock on the door about ten seconds later.

“What the hell was that?”

It was our coach, making sure everyone was in their rooms.

by fbihop on Oct 13, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Patriot is just a watered down Braveheart

like 100 percent.

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by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

But with Jeremy Isaacs, whose entire career is predicated on characters wanting to kill children.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 13, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

like 1000%

one was terrible, and a waste of time, and a complete mockery of history

one was fun, not a waste of time, and a complete mockery of history

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I liked the Patriot

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

sheesh

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Patriot definitely has rewatchability, but I can’t help but think for every second that they tried to make Braveheart II, and failed.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

it helps 100 percent

that I saw the patriot first

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by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good point. That definitely changes the landscape.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOM

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by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Loved it

The Revolution is my favorite time period in American History :)

by Ivdown on Oct 13, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

My brain is going to explode.

by VegasBlues on Oct 13, 2011 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes, I understand this thought. It is kind of like saying the prehistoric age was my favorite age which is why I love the Flintstones.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

How come Passion isn’t on here?

by G.Scott on Oct 13, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

He wasn't in that I'm assuming, correct?

That’s why I didn’t list it. If he is, then my bad.

by Ivdown on Oct 13, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sugartits FTW

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 13, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where's "Tripoli"?

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by Julio Pena on Oct 13, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Libya.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 13, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I mean "Galipoli"

Wrong-poli.

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by Julio Pena on Oct 13, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Turkey

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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 13, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s actually very good in Gallipoli.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which is why I'm surprised that film isn't on the list.

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by Julio Pena on Oct 13, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

its 4down

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by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh. He can't be THAT much younger than me.

I saw that film in high school. Twice!

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by Julio Pena on Oct 13, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

For some reason he took a 7 year break from acting. I wonder why…

by fbihop on Oct 13, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Historically, John Cazale. His complete filmography:

The Godfather, The Conversation, The Godfather II, Dog Day Afternoon, The Deer Hunter.

More recent: Daniel Day-Lewis.

by fbihop on Oct 13, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

John Malkovich strikes me as someone who is in good movies more often than not.

by G.Scott on Oct 13, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I saw him in a terrible movie recently with Bruce Willis.

I disliked Burn after Reading not because of him but because I left the movie wanting to slowly boil the bitch who lived.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

You didn’t like Red? I fucking loved Red.

by G.Scott on Oct 13, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I enjoyed that Morgan Freeman was in a movie called ‘Red’.

by G.Scott on Oct 13, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because he’s Irish.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 13, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

red was a slow starter

but once it got going was pretty good.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okay, I have to be honest.

I wanted to see Red but never did.

Then the other day I caught the very end with Willis pushing Malkovich in a wheelbarrel being chased by a gazillion people with automatic guns and I said that looks like a stupid fucking movie.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have it on blu-ray, if you don’t see it before the next TBLA event i’ll bring it with me.

by G.Scott on Oct 13, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was run over in the credits.

by Grimjack on Oct 13, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1 RED, that flick did so well that they are doing a sequel.

by Grimjack on Oct 13, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Redder?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 13, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or Red 2: The Reddening

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 13, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Red Dawn…………………………….. Oh shit they just remade that too.

by Grimjack on Oct 13, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Red Hard

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by underdog on Oct 13, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Laughing

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Double bill with The Expendables II?

by fbihop on Oct 13, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

With half off on ensure at the concession stand.

by Grimjack on Oct 13, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

You just have to die early

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am the guy who dislikes Daniel Day-Lewis. I think he’s a horrible over-actor who chews the scenery of every movie he’s in.

Re-watch A Room with a View. It’s really quite a good movie and everyone in it is gives a good, natural performance. Then Daniel Day-Lewis shows up and all of a sudden it’s like he’s from a different movie. He’s like an alien.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I still don’t think anybody ever actually saw My Left Foot. But everyone knows he’s a brilliant actor because of his role in that.

I don’t believe I’ve actually seen any movie he’s been in.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 13, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

In the Name of the Father, maybe? Don’t remember if he overacted in that.

I just happened to see A Room with a View and There Will Be Blood within a few weeks of each other. (Well, most of There Will Be Blood. I disliked it so much that I couldn’t stand it after people started talking. I skipped to the end to the milkshake scene.)

Seeing his performances in those movies so close together left a deep impression.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t remember him overacting in In the Name of the Father, but I saw it long ago. I really rather liked There Will Be Blood, although it is a bit preposterous and, yes, he does overact some.


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by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't remember him overacting

in last of the mohicans

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by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t remember Last of the Mohicans. I must have seen it, but I don’t remember.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

theirs dual weilding of muskets

dudes get their hearts torn out of their chests, how can you not remember it!

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Loved that movie.

Like Name of the Father alot, but he was out acted by the dead guy who played his father. I’ve yet to see There will be blood.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

There Will Be Blood

was awesome imho.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Everybody else but me thinks so. I’m totally mintxcore on this one.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I chose to skip that as I did not like the preview.

by Grimjack on Oct 13, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

i have very few feelings about There Will Be Blood.

by mintxcore on Oct 13, 2011 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

and the one's you do have

are snobbish :)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 13, 2011 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

it was just a really long

movie i wasn’t really that interested in.

by mintxcore on Oct 13, 2011 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE

You can hate the man, the movie, the director but that line is eternal

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, I agree, but because it is ridiculous. When I first heard that line, I thought it was a joke. I actually watched the end of the movie, just to convince myself that it really, really is in the movie.

And it really, really is. Amazing.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I haven’t seen that either, but would like to.

Was serious about scheduling a bowling night for midweek next week. Would you be interested?

by G.Scott on Oct 13, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Possibly, if someone brings an Ipad we can watch the World Series on

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fox laughs at this request

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

the bowling alley doesn't have tvs?

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by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

regardless, the game will go from 3-7pm anyway

by G.Scott on Oct 13, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

3pm bowling on a weekday seems ambitious.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

and I don’t plan on bowling four hours;)

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, you both.

Was making fun of early Fox start times.

Figure we bowl from 7-9.

by G.Scott on Oct 13, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Perhaps they do

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I think it worked out well.

by G.Scott on Oct 13, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd be cool with that

Get a fan post going and I’m sure I’ll be able to go.

by Ivdown on Oct 13, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was Pete Postlewaite right? That dude is the tits.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

was

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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 13, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even dead he can out-act 50% of the actors working today.


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by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ryan Gosling

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by Julio Pena on Oct 13, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bachelor Party
this is all

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think I watched that in high school

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by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Goddam it. Had a shitty and I missed a good movie thread. Now my son wants the computer.

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was a small thread, what you really missed out on was being part of ftbhop’s music list

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

ugh yeah

i have a few opinions about music too….

today in class i was reminded how great bjork and foo fighters were

by mintxcore on Oct 13, 2011 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I met Dave Grohl a few years back. that man can fucking party.

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

hahah

i saw them live in like.. 95? Foo Fighters, Ween, and Jawbreaker. waht a show

by mintxcore on Oct 13, 2011 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

the 6th inning

will decide how much he gets paid this offseason

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by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Has he finished it yet?

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Verlander is busy

screwing this whole thing up

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by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does that mean we will get to see if CJ can hold a lead?

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

luckily no

I hope he gets pounded here. Even if he loads the bases though they’ll just bring in Ogando and he’ll shut it down.

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by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I dont like Verlander

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 3:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Welcome to the dark side. Free Fro-Yo is over there.

by G.Scott on Oct 13, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Argh. After Jackson couldn't come up with that first one

you knew things would unravel after that. Come on JV, get it together!

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by underdog on Oct 13, 2011 3:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Tigers’ announcers were exasperated at the 4-pitch walk to Moreland.

Then they got excited on the double play to end the inning. Haha

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I bet

Leyland will let him go to 130 or something. No one decent besides coke left in the pen.

by shaqfor3 on Oct 13, 2011 3:27 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

It’s a hell of a drug.

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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

not looking good

Tigers need a double play more than ever

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Ask and ye shall receive

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by underdog on Oct 13, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Have to pull Verlander at this point.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 3:26 PM PDT reply actions  

have to, but won't

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Need Verlander to record four more outs first.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tigers should have traded for Guerrier, all you GM’s watching this, know this, 4.5 Million is a pittance compared to the peace of mind of knowing a Guerrier will save your derriere during the playoffs as your bullpen wears itself out due to micro management by the managers.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

“HITS THE BASE” was said by the Tigers’ announcer at a Drysdalean octave.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 3:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Off the bag!

Down the line. Tigers take the lead back.

by Alex41592 on Oct 13, 2011 3:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Wow what a wonderful break for the Tigers there

Thank you third base bag! 3-2 Tigers.

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by underdog on Oct 13, 2011 3:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Tigers got this. V-Mart triple. 4-2 Detroit Rock City

by Alex41592 on Oct 13, 2011 3:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Followed by Delmon Young two-run homer.

Oblique to oblique

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Um, methinks Ron Wash may have left CJ dangling in there too long this inning

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by underdog on Oct 13, 2011 3:41 PM PDT reply actions  

They did all this against the 75 Million Dollar pitcher:)

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pretty soon, it’ll be his elbow dangling.

by G.Scott on Oct 13, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

hindsight is 20/20 and all..

but this al series seems like a battle of which manager makes the dumber decision

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 13, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

phill wins

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 3:43 PM PDT reply actions  

isn’t that a macro:)

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tigers just hit a single, double, triple and HR. In a row.

by fbihop on Oct 13, 2011 3:43 PM PDT reply actions  

37? In a row?!

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 13, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brewers need to win tonight but I have a hard time imagining Wolf keeping the threesome quiet. Furcal / Freeze / Molina are going to do some damage

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 3:53 PM PDT reply actions  

How do you explain to someone that it doesn't matter if Uribe plays 3rd or 2nd

offensively, because his bat is still in the lineup. His logic is that you “need” offense at third.

I want to just call him stupid, but that’d be mean.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Oct 13, 2011 3:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Course it matters

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

It matters based on the available players this winter. If there are better hitters available at third than second (I’m looking at you, Aramis Ramirez, possibly), then of course it matters where Uribe plays.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess we are both stupid

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

you need to explain

that 3rd base is not the offensive Juggernaut it once was, it is more on par with 2nd and SS offensively over the last few years. Manny people have not grasped this yet.

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by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

and by the time they do, it will have changed again.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

life sucks

and then you die

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

life can be beautiful

and then you die

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I tried that just now

see how it works

I gotta go to my chem lab, i’ll revisit this in a few hours.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Oct 13, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

By?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

A team in an inning.

by Alex41592 on Oct 13, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks – something new happens every day in baseball, never ceases to amaze me.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pat Forde leaving ESPN for Yahoo! Sports.

Pat Forde, the longtime ESPN.com columnist who is the Worldwide Leader’s foremost college football and basketball writer, is leaving ESPN for rival Yahoo Sports, according to multiple sources. Forde’s contract at ESPN expires Nov. 1, at which point he’ll move to Yahoo.

by fbihop on Oct 13, 2011 3:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Verlander

with a quick 7th inning.

by Alex41592 on Oct 13, 2011 3:56 PM PDT reply actions  

My phone

just played the ESPN Breaking News riff, then when I swiped my finger, started playing a video with Jenn Brown at AT&T Park previewing tonight’s Cal v. USC tilt. On my phone. What a future.

by Josie Becker on Oct 13, 2011 3:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Yet life went on normally for the billions oblivious to such a thing

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love this country! he he he he

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 13, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

{clink}

{drinks Smirnoff vodka in honor of that joke}

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by underdog on Oct 13, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Raburn just hit a ball so far, it blanked.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 4:00 PM PDT reply actions  

I will give you props even though no one has a clue about Match Game. You have been wanting to do that for so long.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I watch Match Game all the time with my mom, GSN FTW

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love those reruns

I have vague memories of watching it in the late 70s when little. Saw one recently that had Gary Burghoff in it (when Charles Nelson Reilly wasn’t on). My g/f watched one with me the other day and said “I have no idea who these people are — are they supposed to be celebrities?” Other than Richard Dawson whom she knew. Bu that was one of the 1974 ones where most of the panelists were kinda washed up, or would be.

but another one had William Shatner!

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by underdog on Oct 13, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fannie Flagg was a celebrity in 1975 the same way that Maya Rudolph is a celebrity now.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 13, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hm, not sure about that analogy...

Flagg never starred in a huge box office hit comedy or was a regular on a comedy series, etc. But she did write a best selling book and other popular things… Since people still know Fried Green Tomatoes I guess she’s probably still not totally obscure.

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by underdog on Oct 13, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’d probably be surprised to know how popular her books are

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know her books are popular. I was just saying that “celebrity” is a relative term. Hell, if John Basedow can call himself a “fitness celebrity,” anyone can become a celebrity with a little money and a local cable channel willing to take it.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 13, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Charles Nelson Reilly: It went to New Orleans and started DANCING!

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 13, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

How many guys did the Rangers add to their bullpen during the trade deadline?

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 4:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Are you counting Merkin?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 13, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

The main ones they got were Mike Adams and Koji Uehara in July. Then they got Mike Gonzalez on August 31, which I didn’t realize until last week.

Shitload of weapons they have down there.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Merkin was better then all of them. Then they simply moved Ogando from the rotation. Course they weakened the rotation by doing so, but it is working out.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ogando hit a wall though; not sure if they had a choice. The timing worked out though, as he worked through his dead arm or tired period than was fresh as a daisy for October.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are daisies fresh?

How about fresh as Arlie Latham?

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

So now do you pull Verlander?

Meanwhile, Koji has been very very bad in this series.

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by underdog on Oct 13, 2011 4:02 PM PDT reply actions  

1 more out for what?

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by underdog on Oct 13, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m perfectly fine with risking life and limb for Verlander in order for me to gain points in a contest with no prize other than personal pride.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah. Hah.

Well, carry on then, sir.

Hope your telegram to Leyland arrives in time!

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by underdog on Oct 13, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is ridiculous how much time my brain spends calculating how I my odds are doing in that thing. Right now I’m fairly irritated that Miggy didn’t do much for total bases. Then again maybe he did, I have yet to look at a box score.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, remember how signing Uehara and that other dude was gonna make the Rangers unstoppable?

by fbihop on Oct 13, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Last I looked they were one game away from the World Series

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well they are still gonna be up 3-2 going home.

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by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

CJ Wilson stopped the Rangers tonight

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

for all the lawyers in the house

I am working on a filing for a motion for summary judgment today.

I want to kill somebody.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 13, 2011 4:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Ah, your client is the Giants, isn’t it?

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha no

my firm actually worked on the transaction to bring the dodgers to la.. and the lakers..

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 13, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I used to love those separate statement of facts

Attaching all those documents and deposition testimony.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 13, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

He just needs to make one out.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

this is stupid

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

is their bullpen really that bad?

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

All their good relievers can’t pitch today. Except Phil Coke.

by fbihop on Oct 13, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

who coincidentally, was also consumed by Jose Valverde.

by G.Scott on Oct 13, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

8th inning

he has thrown 253 pitches

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

120 something

I would’ve let Coke pitch the last two

by shaqfor3 on Oct 13, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Every out is precious, every out is good. If an out is wasted, god gets quite irate

by Josie Becker on Oct 13, 2011 4:13 PM PDT reply actions  

haha. that was on cable last night. never get tired of that scene.

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by underdog on Oct 13, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I never realized it’s baseball application until Orel said every out is precious

by Josie Becker on Oct 13, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Still throwing 94!

hope his arm doesn’t come off with the ball on one of these pitches.

K’s Beltre!

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by underdog on Oct 13, 2011 4:13 PM PDT reply actions  

A Dravecky

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 13, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also Tony Saunders.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 13, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Looking like +210 for E

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 4:13 PM PDT reply actions  

The producer and Writer (Bruckheimer and Verbinski) who brought you the Pirate films just got greenlit to do a Long Ranger pic

by Josie Becker on Oct 13, 2011 4:15 PM PDT reply actions  

verbinksi

made rango right? love that movie so hard.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 13, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

huh. Yeah he did direct that one, and didn’t direct that last Pirates movie

by Josie Becker on Oct 13, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

the ring

and if you couldn’t have fun with the first pirates you are a anti fun commie

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

why does everyone think commie’s can’t be fun loving?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

In Soviet Russia, fun loves you?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

porno?

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 13, 2011 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

JEBUS

that was a 100 mph pitch cruz hit out!!!

by shaqfor3 on Oct 13, 2011 4:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Nelson Cruz is hotter than fire

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 4:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Seriously. Wow.

5 hrs? Gosh.

Okay, their pen better not blow this.

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by underdog on Oct 13, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Currently

this post season is on track to have the most pre-World Series games since 2003.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 13, 2011 4:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Cruz turned around 100 Amazing

by Alex41592 on Oct 13, 2011 4:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Like Bonds Vs. Gagne

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 13, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

how many of his hits in this series AREN’T home runs? like 1-2?

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 13, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wouldn’t put it past Cruz to have more hits than at-bats.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

achilles heal, only hits home runs

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

There was a book about that

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

x

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I read this book

It is possible by 7th grade I had read every possible fictional baseball book ever written.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I read the sequel

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Kid With Back-ne And Testicular Reduction?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Admiral” Nelson Cruz!

by fbihop on Oct 13, 2011 4:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Coke is it!

Man, SBN is slow right now.

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by underdog on Oct 13, 2011 4:26 PM PDT reply actions  

super slow

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Justin Verlander threw 94 strikes today. Only people in regular season to throw 90+ were Roy Halladay (94) and Chris Carpenter (91)

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 4:32 PM PDT reply actions  

When you make your last start might as well go out in a blaze of glory

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

if I leave work and head immediatly there

I should arrive sometime around the heat death of the universe

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I know, I really don’t know how to accomodate you. Any suggestions for future reference?

by G.Scott on Oct 13, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lake Forest lanes

we can grab dinner at Albatross :-p. South LA would work, but North LA won’t. I can live with missing out on bowling.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I also fell for this

though i was happy with what came up unlike Kelly will be, lol

by Ivdown on Oct 13, 2011 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Phil Choke.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 4:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Castle is a goddam machine so far in the fall league: .379/.471/.828

by silverwidow on Oct 13, 2011 4:40 PM PDT reply actions  

has he started

at 2B yet?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 13, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Looks like just RF and DH.

by silverwidow on Oct 13, 2011 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is there some reason they keep leaving Coke in there vs the tough righties?

What are they doing?

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by underdog on Oct 13, 2011 4:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Al Alberqurque had a couple bad outings so he is to never be trusted again.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jim Leyland bad manager.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hm, yeah, I was thinking Perry would make sense but didn't realize he was that mediocre.

Or Penny, but as a reliever he would make me nervous. So I guess yeah options were limited.

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by underdog on Oct 13, 2011 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Go ahead run, Mike Napoli on deck.

by Alex41592 on Oct 13, 2011 4:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Jim Leyland

crazy like a fox

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 13, 2011 4:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Cabrera needs bloody subtitles in interviews

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by underdog on Oct 13, 2011 4:45 PM PDT reply actions  

needs manny to translate

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Joe Buck comes off like an arrogant cock.

#wateriswet

by silverwidow on Oct 13, 2011 4:49 PM PDT reply actions  

He’s wearing a sweater on the air. Over his suit.

by Alex41592 on Oct 13, 2011 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hopefully

he lost his travesty of an HBO show

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 13, 2011 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lasted three months. Been gone almost two years now.

by Alex41592 on Oct 13, 2011 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

2 years?

wow

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 13, 2011 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Imagine the fun we would have

If it was Ron Washington that had Phil Coke in his bullpen.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 5:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Washington calling for Coke. Also he wants to bring the lefty into the game.

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by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess it can work the way it is

Coke on the mound in the 9th inning. Ron Washington getting nervous.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Coke on the mound facing Josh Hamilton.

by VegasBlues on Oct 13, 2011 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Coke gets all up in Hamilton’s grill

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

He balks

after going to his nose

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 13, 2011 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

There should be no weather issues

It will dip down to the 40s tomorrow night in St. Louis, tonight should be in the 50s. Arlington should be just fine this weekend and if the NL series moves back to Milwaukee, no problems there.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 13, 2011 5:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Hahahaha Mark Kotsay again.

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by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 5:07 PM PDT reply actions  

if Corey Hart isn't hurt

i don’t understand this

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 13, 2011 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hart is not good right now

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

People were bitching about Mark Kotsay starting in playoff games in 2008, it’s pretty damn incredible he’s stuck around this long.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

He can’t find his sunglasses?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

This ump is a giver.

by Alex41592 on Oct 13, 2011 5:09 PM PDT reply actions  

this umpire is terrible.. I know I bitch a lot about this kind of shit but its not fun to watch that

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 5:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Wolf should get a medal

First time Cards have not scored first in the series

by bhsportsguy on Oct 13, 2011 5:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Well they can still do that

first time they have not scored in the 1st inning.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 13, 2011 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am amazed Pujols didn’t treat Wolf like he treated Odalis.

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by regfairfield on Oct 13, 2011 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's

really a mere mortal against Wolf lifetime – 52 PA .885 OPS. 3 home runs in 43 AB.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 13, 2011 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

And one of the few times Wolf has not given up runs in the 1st

and first time in 13 starts he’s gotten through the 1st 1-2-3.

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by underdog on Oct 13, 2011 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

has anyone noticed that little tick with the TBS feed? Ive got it all postseason

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 5:32 PM PDT reply actions  

What little tick? Can you describe it?

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right after an out is recorded, the audio feed has a half a second clicking sound. I have only heard it right after they change the camera view on a out recorded.

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve heard it on my feed a few times

by shaqfor3 on Oct 13, 2011 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Funny, I haven’t heard it since the 2nd inning now

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow. That was a home run.

by Alex41592 on Oct 13, 2011 5:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Molina is complaining about the strike zone?

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 5:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Matt had 1 home run

in 39 AB against Wolf before today.

Wolf really doesn’t have bad numbers against these Cardinal players.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 13, 2011 5:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Breaking News

Redsox have announced that they are changing the song that will be played before the bottom of the 8th inning. “Sweet Caroline” by Neil Diamond will be replaced by “Video Games” by Lana Del Ray.

by albany10 on Oct 13, 2011 5:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Weeks

just alex gonzalez’d that ball

by shaqfor3 on Oct 13, 2011 5:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Random Molina fact

Since 2002, one more Molinas have played on a playoff team in every year except 2003.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 13, 2011 5:43 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't know if it's my TV or not

But I’m not getting Time Warner’s feed in the SFV smoothly at all. It’s breaking up every second or two on my HDTV. Anyone else having the same problem? When I switch to a non-HDTV channel, it works just fine.

by The Dude Abides on Oct 13, 2011 5:45 PM PDT reply actions  

ask notjoetorree

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I got Directv, the only problem I have is a little bell sound after an out is recorded. Its TBS I think

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Give me the freedom to do anything I want in a game

and I’ll get bored in 3 hours and never come back. Thus I have yet to try minecraft.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, I heard ppl either love it or hate it.

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

that's why

i don’t play MMORPG’s. or the GTA series

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 13, 2011 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I never finished the last GTA , I actually liked the original games on play station

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

because there where too many shitty filler missions

the main story interested me, but it took too long to develop

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s the bandwidth curse – I sometimes get that same problem with Comcast. Not enough bandwidth coming through to power all the HD channels. It could be local to your home/area, or more a more general problem with their system. You can always call and complain.

by latenite on Oct 13, 2011 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

The might have the best 3 hitting pitchers in Baseball

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 5:49 PM PDT reply actions  

They traded for Micah Owings and Carlos Zambrano?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 13, 2011 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll take Greinke and Gallardo over them.

Owings is still pitching?

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gallardo is a legit hitter. Greinke, ehhh.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 13, 2011 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rick Ankiel will always be a pitcher in my mind.

I’m not sure if he is a better hitter though.

by VegasBlues on Oct 13, 2011 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mr. Two Names goes deep. 2-0 StL

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 5:58 PM PDT reply actions  

hahaha

i was reminded of the character from Rock n’ Rolla. Mr. One-Two. such an awesome name. Played by Gerard Butler

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 13, 2011 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wasn’t sure if you meant Jon Jay or Allen Craig.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Both opposite field shots.

by Joey Joe on Oct 13, 2011 5:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Thank you Randy Wolf. I now have more points to bet with.

by VegasBlues on Oct 13, 2011 5:59 PM PDT reply actions  

?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 13, 2011 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

didn’t know it was on today

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 13, 2011 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

USC had 1st & goal on the 6, ran three shit plays and rather than settle for a chip shot field goal Kiffin had USC in some cockamamee formation, which involved the center sideways snapping the ball directly to the fullback, who fumbled the ball.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

D'OHETH

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 13, 2011 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

What was strange about that play

from the get go you knew it was a fake FG.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 13, 2011 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

is this the secret weapon

that julio was talking about? Cause if so… LOL

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Julio was speaking of freshman George Farmer.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was a horrible throw from CF.

by Joey Joe on Oct 13, 2011 6:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Jon Jay is not a good defender

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Pujols hadnt cut that off and threw it on to the catcher, it would have bounced 3 times before reaching the plate

by Joey Joe on Oct 13, 2011 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was talking about a game Beckett, Lackey, and Lester would play called Chicken Chuck, where they would throw fried chicken skin against the wall, and bet on which player’s chicken skin would make it to the floor first.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which joke

1) Need to drink a lot of beer to play that game well

2) Lackey lost when he walked the chicken

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lackey lost when the wall whacked his chicken skin across the room?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wolf knows the strike zone

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 6:19 PM PDT reply actions  

DJ TBLA

for anyone interested, i set up a turntable.fm room

http://turntable.fm/tbla2

i think all you need is a facebook account to join. i’ll be there for about 15 min befor ei give up on you fools ;D

by mintxcore on Oct 13, 2011 6:31 PM PDT reply actions  

I’m using my notebook to listen to the game, interesting concept.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

my browser has crashed 3 times trying to load it

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess it doesn’t matter, I deleted FB

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

all of it?

nice job

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 13, 2011 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

I made a post on FB about how you cant delete it and of course one of the 20 people I had on my friends list made a snakry ahole comment “you won’t delete it, bla bla” so my hand was forced. He posted the link for deletion and I did it.

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

i meant

all of facebook :)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 13, 2011 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

if only, Facebook was actually alright 5-6 years ago.

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

FYI

everyone, i didn’t make this comment

by mintxcore on Oct 13, 2011 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tommy, you just stumbled upon a sequel to The Social Network.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

i’ll expect my check in the mail

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 13, 2011 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll Facebook email you

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Every Bison Zuckerburg dollar will be worth five British pounds. That is the exchange rate that the bank of England will implement after I kidnap their queen.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 13, 2011 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

laaaaame

are you using Xeifrank’s computer or something? :D

by mintxcore on Oct 13, 2011 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

It might be Firefox

because the computer shouldn’t be the problem.

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

hmm it was FF, IE had no problem opening it

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

facebook

That will be a problem in the workplace.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can’t do that through my firewall at work.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brewers Lead

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 13, 2011 6:39 PM PDT reply actions  

wow

good play

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 13, 2011 6:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Dang USC

Cal is trying to let you win, and you ain’t scoring. Remember the old futbol adage:

las metas que no se obtuvo resultados en su contra

by Josie Becker on Oct 13, 2011 6:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Cal is trying to let you win

How can you tell? :)

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m used to a series of three and outs, it’s the turnovers that are an anomaly : )

by Josie Becker on Oct 13, 2011 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

need these runs badly!!

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 6:58 PM PDT reply actions  

TheriD'OH!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 13, 2011 7:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Thats a tough bounce

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 7:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Bad inning for the riot

by Joey Joe on Oct 13, 2011 7:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Carswell that ends well

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 7:23 PM PDT reply actions  

If I want to roast a chicken

do I HAVE to have a roast pan

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 7:27 PM PDT reply actions  

you need something to put it on

and you need to be able to catch the drippings.

not sure a roast pan is necessary.

by mintxcore on Oct 13, 2011 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

2 minute red carpet defense

I mean prevent

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 7:27 PM PDT reply actions  

thats the worst throw I"ve ever seen

absolutely horribly stupid

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 7:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Good old time out call

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 7:32 PM PDT reply actions  

come on randy

this will be your last batter….

by matthewmafa on Oct 13, 2011 7:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Randy Wolf, the pitching star of the NLCS. Who knew?

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 7:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Retired 13 of his last 15

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Someone remind me again why we dumped Wolf instead of re-signing him.

by berkowit28 on Oct 13, 2011 7:43 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

We wouldn’t want that again!!

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

So instead we get pitchers like Garland on shorter contract? Hmmm, how did that work out? And Lilly, guaranteed not to be injured over 3 years. OK. I can’t even remember who we got when Wolf left. Anyone? Padilla? He came later too.

by berkowit28 on Oct 13, 2011 7:50 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

We signed Hiroki Kuroda

worked out pretty well.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that’s right.

by berkowit28 on Oct 13, 2011 7:53 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

 are you talking about 2008?

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wolf was not re-signed after 2007

Kuroda showed up in 2008. Yes.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

No why would I mean 2009-10? I meant when we did not re-sign Wol, which is what I saidf. 2008. I’m pretty sure he signed a 3 or 4 year contract with the Brewers so we did not have the chance to get him back in 2010.

by berkowit28 on Oct 13, 2011 8:01 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Wolf was here in both 2007 and 2009

on one-year contracts.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought it was about 2009

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh right

We re-signed Padilla and had the Monk and Ely experiment.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then traded for Lilly during the 2010 season.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

.8 fWAR last year

1.4 this.

not exactly worth the cost.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Oct 13, 2011 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Brewers have the worst defense in baseball and they play in a hitters paradise.

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

seriously?

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I loved Wolf in DS and the NL West.

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

IF he’s healthy.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

But

he missed about 1/2 his starts over a four-year period from 2004-2007. After two healthy years, would you have bet on three more after that?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, of course. signing any pitcher to a contract is a huge risk.

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

sure

but not at the cost he signed for

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wasn’t it almost identical to the Lilly contract

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wolf got 3 and a little less than 30. Lilly got 3 and around 35.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

its not like we didn't sign wolf so we can sign lilly

and lilly has historically been better

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

based on the 3 WAR Wolf posted for us a season? Lilly will be lucky to duplicate that in his entire Dodger career?

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

wtf question marks!!

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

wolf was .1 war better then lilly this year

in f-war. Yay.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

.8 war last year for wolf

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

He already has 2.2 WAR.

Wolf was .1 better this year and Lilly was 1.3 WAR better in 2010

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Oct 13, 2011 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I got Wolf ahead by a full win this season on one site.

They both aren’t great but Wolf is better.

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

was Lilly hurt in 2008-10 or is he not a 200 inning pitcher anymore?

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

He missed the beginning of 2010 due to minor surgery.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Last three seasons

Name BB/9 SO/9 SO/BB
Wolf 3.0 / 6.1 / 2.07
Lilly 2.1 / 7.6 / 3.63


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Before it is asked

Wolf’s HR/9 1.1, Lilly 1.3


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would much rather have had Lilly in 2010 and 2011. I would much rather have Wolf’s contract that ends in 2012 with a small buyout in 2013.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

In bWAR, Lilly already has 3.4 WAR as a Dodger.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Didn’t even offer arb, lost draft pick.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 13, 2011 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know you must suck as a 2B

when your defensive replacement is 41 years old.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 7:50 PM PDT reply actions  

a better explanation.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

i thought weeks would be a good fit for CF

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t have much of a future as a blogger if WAR is all we are going to talk about.

No one seemed very interested in revisiting the Wolf sign or don’t sign scenario after he gave up five first inning runs to the Diamondbacks. He’s lucky he got a second chance or he’d be road kill in Wisconsin this winter.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 8:22 PM PDT reply actions  

I hate WAR and all that shit, I really dont know why I posted it in the first place

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Still the decision was arbitration and Ned decided not to offer it even though most of us felt Wolf knew he could get a multi year deal and would decline thus giving us some draft picks. Ned wasn’t interested in gambling. He used the money he saved on not signing Wolf for wonderful things in the winter of 2010.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Not offering Wolf arb. Grrrrrrr. No way he was talking it. Thanks for picking that scab Phil.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

fip? x-fip?

k/9? bb/9? do you hate those two? Lilly is simply better.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know it stands for “Wins Above Replacement”, but what does that mean? What is the value of ‘Replacement’?

Not trolling, just would like to know. I’m old, and don’t understand it.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Oct 13, 2011 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t worry, I’ll gladly take the opinion of intelligent fans over advanced metrics any day of the week.

Wait

That might disqualify you as well… (Joking of course. I am a fan of all our bloggers here at TBLA.)

by VegasBlues on Oct 13, 2011 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tying run to the plate, and it is Mr. Furcal.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 8:30 PM PDT reply actions  

series even

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Berkman reaches

Cards not quite dead.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 8:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Are they now?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

For this game, yes.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Very big for the Brewers to win one on the road.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

2-2

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 13, 2011 8:30 PM PDT reply actions  

On the plus side, he has yet to make a big error to cost his team a game.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did he do that to us in the postseason or just the regular season?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

postseason

made me turn off the tv it wsa so brutal

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

My mind has clearly blotted out that memory.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was my dead-to-me moment.

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

The events later in that series killed many of my brain cells.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hit the total bases the hard way
Four Singles
Two Doubles

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 8:34 PM PDT reply actions  

I believe the top three will be me, you, and Dave heading into tomorrow.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ryan Braun

6th multi-hit game of the playoffs tonight.

16 for 34 with 6 doubles and 2 homers

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 8:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Eric

You have anything going for tomorrow morning?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

No

Didn’t have time to write about coaches

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I might have something in the next 30 minutes though. But run yours tomorrow morning.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 13, 2011 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

True Blue LA

Behind the Music Blogging

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 13, 2011 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

A Peek In The Basement


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Better that than a kick in the cock

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm so glad

I wasn’t drinking anything when this posted.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 13, 2011 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kiek in de Kok — literally, “peep in the kitchen” — is the word for a tall artillery tower in Tallinn, Estonia. It is named that because it is tall enough that you can “peep in the kitchen” of the surrounding houses.

When Bride and I were in Tallinn, though, we kept asking each other if we wanted a kick in the cock.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

that's awesome

You have a first-hand Kiek in de Kok story. Not many do.

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bride strikes me

as someone who’d give you a mental kick rather than a physical one

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 13, 2011 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I get a kick out of her.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

you’re a lucky man

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 13, 2011 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

I said the basement, not the kitchen!


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like that, it would be a great name for a book about a blogger.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

For podcasters

The Basement Tapes.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

How stupid

was Wolf’s bunt? Let that man swing away!

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 8:43 PM PDT reply actions  

it would be awesoke

if after this game was over, both Cal and USC met in the middle of the field and put on Dodger hats.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 13, 2011 8:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Isn’t this the second time Cal has played a Thursday Night game or does it just seem like it because of all the Cal folk?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Oregon beat Cal on a Thursday.

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

btw

I’ve resisted all NCAAF conference talk, but Boise St. in the Big East? Are they just trolling us now? (to borrow a phrase)

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I won’t be satisfied until Boise plays Cal

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Nice. The comments here would be epic.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

and beats them by 30.

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

We’re talking football I think.

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

and the Div-1 conferences sponsor more than one sport, and foster academic partnerships

by Josie Becker on Oct 13, 2011 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I ain’t got nothing but love for Cal.

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

and foster academic partnerships

This is starting to ring a bit hollow when the main reason these days for altering conference alignments is to increase revenue, primarily from television for football.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

it’s the reason why it took forever for the Big12 to accept they were gonna have to add TCU. Having AAU membership is still something conferences want.

by Josie Becker on Oct 13, 2011 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not saying it’s not a consideration, just saying that money talks.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

what about bullshit?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 13, 2011 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

This isn’t true. Texas didn’t want to add TCU because they don’t bring any extra television revenue. They only ended up deciding to add them because they were trying to do whatever they could to save their conference.

by VegasBlues on Oct 13, 2011 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

it’s a reason, not the sole reason. If these things came down to one reason, they could be handled by morons

by Josie Becker on Oct 13, 2011 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

So somebody like the Big East commissioner who basically sat back and shrugged as he lost 2 schools to the ACC?

by VegasBlues on Oct 13, 2011 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Notre Dame and BYU would like to talk to you about how they separate football from all the other sports.

by VegasBlues on Oct 13, 2011 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why exactly do you hate Boise State so much? How exactly would it affect you if they joined an AQ conference?

by VegasBlues on Oct 13, 2011 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

it wouldn’t, it wouldn’t at all, but they’re joining a Big East which is a basketball first conference that might lose its AQ to the MWC in a year anyway. Seems a silly move

by Josie Becker on Oct 13, 2011 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

With BSU and AFA going to the Big East there is no way the MWC gets AQ status. If AFA wasn’t so open about wanting to join the Big East I bet BSU would think long and hard about leaving but AFA is basically forcing their hand.

by VegasBlues on Oct 13, 2011 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

That combined with losing Utah, BYU, and TCU.

by VegasBlues on Oct 13, 2011 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m just agin it. Boise St playing a conference game at UConn makes no sense.

by Josie Becker on Oct 13, 2011 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I saw the projected BCS standings. Top ten teams are undefeated. I foresee no problems ahead.

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Big East is guaranteed AQ status through 2013. Boise State would only have 4 conference road games a year so the travel wouldn’t be bad (4 hour charter flights instead of 2 hour charter flights don’t really make much of a difference).

As a Boise State fan I hope it happens just so they can milk that extra money for a couple years. When / if the conference implodes in a couple years (if they lose their AQ status) Boise can take their extra money and get the MWC to take them back. It’s not like the Big 12 or Pac 10 are ever going to invite them anyways.

by VegasBlues on Oct 13, 2011 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

shit

I’m an [in principle] Boise St. fan too. I think they are one of the biggest victims of this fraudulent system. I guess they didn’t make the rules; they’re just playing the game. I don’t blame them at all. /backtoavoidingthesubject

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Based on what I’ve seen if the Dodgers had made the post season we’d be Champions of the World

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 8:51 PM PDT reply actions  

I don’t know. Texas has looked pretty good.

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nelson Cruz sure has but we’d have put a Justin Upton on him. Their best pitcher can’t even go past five innings:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 13, 2011 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

don't worry

there will be two WC spots next year.

not that the 2012 NL West Division Champion Dodgers need to be concerned with them. :)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 13, 2011 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Red Sox are like

FUCK WHY COULDN’T IT HAVE BEEN THIS YEAR

OH THE SHAME

WHERE’S THE FRIED CHICKEN

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Im too drunk to taste this chicken

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is there anything more unprofessional than a bunch of fried chicken in a baseball dugout? The kicker: IT WAS FAST-FOOD FRIED CHICKEN.

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mo Vaughn thinks its fine

Mo Vaughn was a Red Sock

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mo Vaughn got paid, got fat, got injured, got out.

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Major leaguer most likely to be carrying a bucket of fried tofurkey under his arm: Prince Fielder?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Khalil Greene comes to mind.

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tofurkey

Not tofu
Not turkey

Just anathema

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tofurkey
Go Furky
GFY
Lace Jacob
Jace Lacob
[just clangin’ bro]

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

The fake meat things are lame

If I wanted to be a vegetarian, I would not eat fake meat. There’s plenty of fine things to be eaten without resorting to fake meat.
/sucksDownHisDietSoda


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have a pal who was a vegetarian. For years and years, vegetarian.

Then, one day, she was driving down the street, saw KFC, got a craving, went in and ate fried chicken, and that was it. She wasn’t a vegetarian anymore. Now she eats lots of meat.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

hah not quite the same

I know a girl who thought she was allergic to beef until college.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

In Arcata [feel free to skip]

I was served a tofu turkey at a Thanksgiving dinner. It was marble gray-white, and looked like a giant boiled egg. The cook had no idea when it was done (though the cashew gravy was tasty). Vegetarian food is great. Fake meat is stoopid.

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Vegetarian food is great. Fake meat is stoopid.

Yes.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

active?

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Especially since I bet Poppa B’s on Blue Hill Ave. in Dorchester would be happy to deliver, in exchange for being the Official Fried Chicken of the Red Sox’s Collapse.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

That just sounds good.

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mmmmmm

The good news: beloved Dorchester soul food spot Poppa B’s is not closed for good, reports Dishing. The bad news: it’s relocating to Codman Square, where it will only offer takeout and catering.
dated Sept. ’09.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Along with the batter

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

You guys are making me crave Red Sox baseball. Stop.

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Somebody should seriously ask Beckett why they went with fast food, and they should say, “I know Buchholz can’t afford it on his mere six-figure salary, but couldn’t Lackey cover him? And I have a follow up — if not, what use is Lackey, because he certainly didn’t do anything worthwhile on the mound.”

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 13, 2011 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lackey’s like a servile follower, a toady or something. Can’t put my finger on it.

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

USC

just wait til two years from now. Next year you’ll probably win again.

by Josie Becker on Oct 13, 2011 9:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Is

There another QB in the wings? Maynard is a junior.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 13, 2011 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

whatever happened to

that offer from the marathon guy

or was that not a legit one?

by shaqfor3 on Oct 13, 2011 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

pretty much no one believed it, and the deadline passed

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 13, 2011 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ouch
If the long-term debts funded by Dodgers revenue are $550 million, if the Dodgers exhaust their bankruptcy financing, and if a sale results in the maximum tax liability stated by Frank McCourt, then the team would need to sell for $900 million just for McCourt to break even.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 13, 2011 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

so thats why he doesn't want to sell

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 13, 2011 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

ouchtown

population: Frank McCourt

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 13, 2011 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mayor and town fool.

by kinbote on Oct 13, 2011 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

It

Was a gambit to try and get the TV deal, short of that, I don’t think it matters. However, he will fight to maintain the entities that control the outside land (parking lots).

by bhsportsguy on Oct 13, 2011 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

you mean the bankruptcy

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 13, 2011 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

He wanted the chance for someone other than Selig to decide his fate.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 13, 2011 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not that shocking. Most businesses that file for bankruptcy don’t end up selling for a profit.

by VegasBlues on Oct 13, 2011 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Had some outstanding Ravioli today. Ricotta is pretty underrated in the grand scheme of cheeses.

by silverwidow on Oct 13, 2011 9:30 PM PDT reply actions  

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