3 Dog Makes His Case For Best 22 Year Old Position Season
by Phil Gurnee on Oct 17, 2011 1:09 PM PDT
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Best 19 & 20 Year Old Position Seasons, Adrian Beltre
Best 19 & 20 Year old Pitching Seasons, Fernando Valenzuela
Best 21 Year old Position Season, Adrian Beltre
Best 21 Year old Pitching Season, Fernando Valenzuela
If you have been reading the series, you know that so far Adrian Belte has dominated the early years, but that is about to change.
Willie Davis did not have highest OPS or OPS but he did have the highest rWAR by over 3.7, which is a huge number. Full time players at age 22 were Willie Davis, Steve Sax, Adrian Beltre, Mariano Duncan, Tommie Davis, and Cesar Izturis. Ron Fairly dominated the offensive numbers with an OPS of .956 but he did it in only 301 plate appearances. Other notables to show up were Blake DeWitt, Bill Buckner, Willie Crawford, Mike Scioscia, Matt Kemp, Roger Cedeno, Steve Garvey, Bobby Valentine, Bill Russell and Wilton Guerrero.
Player WAR/pos OPS+ PA Year Age R 2B 3B HR RBI BB SB CS BA OBP SLG OPS Pos Willie Davis 6.3 116 666 1962 22 103 18 10 21 85 42 32 7 .285 .334 .453 .787 *8 Ron Fairly 2.6 145 301 1961 22 42 15 2 10 48 48 0 0 .322 .434 .522 .956 938/7 Blake DeWitt 2.3 93 421 2008 22 45 13 2 9 52 45 3 0 .264 .344 .383 .728 *54 Steve Sax 1.8 97 699 1982 22 88 23 7 4 47 49 49 19 .282 .335 .359 .694 *4 Bill Buckner 1.7 117 405 1972 22 47 14 3 5 37 17 10 3 .319 .348 .410 .758 93/7 Willie Crawford 1.7 111 440 1969 22 64 17 5 11 41 49 4 5 .247 .331 .401 .732 798 Mike Scioscia 1.5 98 335 1981 22 27 10 0 2 29 36 0 2 .276 .353 .331 .685 *2 Matt Kemp 1.3 127 311 2007 22 47 12 5 10 42 16 10 5 .342 .373 .521 .894 *9/8 Roger Cedeno 1.3 104 227 1997 22 31 10 2 3 17 25 9 1 .273 .362 .392 .753 *87/9 Steve Garvey 1.3 95 249 1971 22 27 12 1 7 26 21 1 2 .227 .290 .382 .673 *5/6 Adrian Beltre 0.8 91 515 2001 22 59 22 4 13 60 28 13 4 .265 .310 .411 .720 *5/6 Mariano Duncan 0.6 79 620 1985 22 74 24 6 6 39 38 38 8 .244 .293 .340 .633 *64 Bobby Valentine 0.5 88 434 1972 22 42 11 2 3 32 27 5 5 .274 .319 .335 .654 456/879 Tommy Davis 0.5 88 508 1961 22 60 13 2 15 58 32 10 4 .278 .325 .413 .738 5789 Bill Russell 0.1 72 223 1971 22 29 7 4 2 15 11 6 3 .227 .265 .327 .592 498/67 Wilton Guerrero -0.2 90 380 1997 22 39 10 9 4 32 8 6 5 .291 .305 .403 .709 *4/6 Cesar Izturis -1.7 51 468 2002 22 43 24 2 1 31 14 7 7 .232 .253 .303 .556 *6/4D
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Generated 10/14/2011.
Twenty Two Year Old Tidbits:
- According to the metrics and the fans of the game back in 1962 Willie Davis was a very good center-fielder who could catch everything. His 22 year old season would be his second best season ever using rWAR as the measurement. Willie would spring board from this season to hold just about every offensive career number for the Los Angeles Dodgers. Starting with the first year for Dodger Stadium, he was the primary CF in the Ravine from 1962 until 1973, a run we may never see again. In '62 Willie would lead the league in triples and have an excellent SB/CS of 32/7. Maury Wills may have stolen 104 bases but everyone knew Willie Davis was the fastest player on the team. A local legend who attended Roosevelt High School, Willie died in the spring of 2010.
- Ron Fairly had been bouncing around on the Dodgers since he was 19 but hadn't really done anything with the bat. That all changed in 1961 as he was able to snag 301 plate appearances by playing 1st, RF, CF, and LF. When he did play it was only against right hand pitching, and Ron did some serious work against them putting up a 1.052 OPS. While Ron would go onto to have a lengthy career he would never come close to matching that season's OPS of .956. The closest he would come was .888, some 15 years later.
- Some would think Blake DeWitt is high on this list strictly because of his defense. He did have a flukish great year with the glove but his bat had more then its share of good moments. In 2008 the twenty-two year old Dewitt was expected to be playing 3rd base in AA when a spring training game took out both Nomar Garciaparra and Andy LaRoche. Next thing you know, DeWitt was our starting 3rd baseman, and for a few months he pulled it off. putting up a .761 OPS in April along with a torrid .896 in May. In May he blasted five home runs. June came, slump came, and Blake found himself back in AAA learning how to be a 2nd baseman. Good thing because Jeff Kent got hurt, so DeWitt was called upon to play 2nd base for the month of September, and all he did in the middle of the pennant race was rake to the tune of a .872 OPS with four more home runs. I mention this because in two months DeWitt hit 9 home runs. He's only hit 12 total in the three seasons since. One other note, DeWitt only had one hit in the 2008 NLCS but what a key hit it was. The Dodgers were down two games to zero against the Phillies but DeWitt's bases loaded first inning triple would propel the Dodgers to their only victory against the Phillies in the 2008 NLCS.
- Steve Sax is surprisingly low on this list according to rWAR. He was, after all, a starting second baseman, he won the ROY, he was an all-star, he had 699 plate appearances, scored 88 runs, and he stole 49 bases. His triple stat line was not that offensive at .282 / .335 / .359. For me I would rank him second on this list. Fangraphs has Steve Sax fWAR at twice that of Blake DeWitt. I've put the fWAR numbers below for comparison.
- Bill Buckner and Willie Crawford put in some good work at age 22 but not as full time players. They were on the good side of the platoon and made the most of it.
- Matt Kemp showed up for good on June 4th, 2007 and has the second highest OPS+ on this list. A year before as a 21 year old Kemp hit the Dodgers for the first time. One week into his career he would step to the plate on June 1st and hit three home runs in three games, eventually hitting seven in eleven games. He would slump after that but the die was cast for what was to come.
- Steve Garvey got his first taste of major league baseball with 200 plate appearances in 1971, and didn't do much with them. At this point he was a popeye without pop as his scatter arm from 3rd base scared the spectators.
- I can still remember Mariano Duncan wowing everyone in spring training of 1985 to win the starting SS gig. He literally was the Dee Gordon of his time, a flash of a player both at the plate and in the field. The 1985 team was a great team except for the left side of the infield. The Dodgers gave Duncan 620 plate appearances, he would only top 500 two other times in his twelve year career. The Dodgers love giving lots of plate appearances to speedy but flawed shortstops. Duncan would finish third in the ROY voting, losing out to Vince Coleman.
- Speaking of flawed but speedy infielder, lets not forget Wilton Guerrero and Cesar Izturis. Guerrero, like Duncan, won the starting second base gig out of spring training in 1997. He would walk EIGHT times in 380 plate appearances. Izturis would walk 14 times in 468 plate appearances. Unlike Wilton, Cesar could not hit his way on base making his twenty two year old season the worst in LA Dodger franchise history. Even his glove could not save him.
- Mike Scioscia got his first 200 plate appearances in 1981 as he shared catching duties with World Series MVP Steve Yeager. Scioscia showed off the solid on base, minimal power skills that would be his trademarks for his whole career. One note, in the playoffs he hit 4 for 28 which is why Steve Yeager got some at bats in the World Series. Not true, Yeager got all those starts because the Yankees came at us with a plethora of lefties and we ate them up.
- Tommie Davis was just getting tuned up for his age 23 season.
- Bobbie Valentine showed some promise but not enough to keep the Dodgers from trading the talented infielder to the Angels in one of the better deals the Dodgers ever made.
Fangraphs WAR:
Willie Davis 5.8
Steve Sax 3.4
Bill Buckner 3.1
Ron Fairly 2. 9
Willie Crawford 2.2
Mike Scioscia 2.1
Steve Garvey 1.9
Matt Kemp 1.8
Blake DeWitt 1.7
Bobby Valentine 1.7
Mariano Duncan 1.3
Adrian Beltre 1.2
Roger Cedeno 1.1
Tommie Davis 1.1
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When thinking of Dodger greats, I never think of Willie Davis. Any idea why? He’s on every offensive list but I feel like he’s rarely talked about.
Even when we did the Lords of the Ravine series I could not get a sponsor for Willie. From what I can gather his 1962 season at age 22 and his age 24 season set the bar high, then he made those three errors in one World Series game and that is what he became famous for. He never lived upto the promise but what he did do was have a very remarkable career.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
He made world series errors? I gotta say, I know nothing about Willie Davis except all the old players who cried last spring when he died.
Sigh
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
I know everyone ignores the links but this is short and sweet.
http://www.truebluela.com/2010/3/9/1365322/willie-davis-slides-into-heaven
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I listened to those three errors on armed forces radio in Germany. I think it was the first game I ever heard. I hated him for three years until I got to watch him play. He played the game so smoothly.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I watched them on TV
after I told everyone who would listen Baltimore didn’t stand a chance
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Joe Morgan?
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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He thinks Billy Beane shouldn’t have made a movie, starring him, and about him.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 17, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
he wouldn't have watched it
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 17, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
and he thought
Phillip Seymour Hoffman should have been the focus.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Wilton Guerrero
That is one empty .291 average
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Matt Kemp
One week into his career he would step to the plate on June 1st and hit three home runs in three games, eventually hitting seven in eleven games.
I remember us over at Dodger Thoughts going berserk over Kemp then.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Yup, the DT game where he hit the bomb to put us ahead was the best moment at any DT game ever.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
AKA, the day we met Frank McCourt.
Even better, Josh Rawitch.
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…and Frank told us – in response to a suggestion that there should be a statue of Koufax – that it should/would be a Statue of a Dodger Fan. Or The Unknown Dodger Fan. Yucch. Nobody knew where to look.
I think it was fans, plural, but yes, yuck. No one in the room seemed to like that idea.
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… and Camille Johnston, who was giving one of us the eye.
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I was thinking crazy thoughts about Kemp back then
Thinking he could hit 30 home runs in half a season in 2007. I was a bit more doe-eyed back then than I am now. Yeah, you guys probably couldn’t even imagine how bad that would be.
And giving him “The Bison” nickname.
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what are you getting?
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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you'll definitely survive it
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
that sounds delightful
why are you afraid?
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness
You have to specifically order spicy thai food as well. You can always ask them to make it mild, too. :)
Usually they’ll have something on the menu that says “THIS IS SPICY, MOTHERFUCKER” but it nicer language or pictograms.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness
Plus I'm guessing
he’s as white as white can be, so even if he asked for spicy, they wouldn’t give it to him
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
right.
I was trying to think of a way to say this in a nice way. Basically, unless you’re a super regular at the place, you’re getting white folk flavoring.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness
My buddy wanted to get “Indian Hot” food once so he had to insist several times he wanted “Indian Hot” while an Indian guy was there to vouch for him.
He ate it, then got completely incapacitated for the rest of the night. There’s a lesson there somewhere.
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by regfairfield on Oct 17, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
saw the same thing happen when I was in Ireland
we went to an Indian restaurant on my last night there, and one of the guys insisted that he wanted a lamb curry vindaloo spicy. Like, really spicy. Cooks came out of the back to watch him eat it. They were grinning and elbowing each other as they watched this white guy attempt to force this food down his gullet.
I’ve never see someone insist something was delicious while sweating profusely and crying.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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I’ve been that white guy. Usually you only do it once.
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by regfairfield on Oct 17, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Is HJ around? I wonder what happens in India. Do you get the white-guy version, or do you get the Indian-guy version?
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 17, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
He gets
the white-guy version of India.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
East is east and west is west and never the twain shall meet.
Except, of course, in the NBA All-Star Game.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 17, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
My guess is it's not
the Brit, Gin and polo version, but also not the slumdog millionaire version
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Worst heat episode I've ever had
was a Thai restaurant. I used to routinely chew up and eat those fiery red peppers. Until one time I actually inhaled some of the seeds. I thought I was going to die.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
i saw a picture of bh
pop up on facebook of him eating at jitlada.
something really, really spicy. REALLY spicy.
I have this problem
in Chinese joints.
“No, really, I want it hot”
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
For sure
I think it’s more of a problem in Chinese places. Spicy Chinese seems to be hard to get, whereas Thai SHOULD be spicy. First world restaurant problems.
All of our problems are first world problems.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 17, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Was trying to explain the concept to my son last night as I watered my lawn with fresh potable water.
nothing like
hosing down the driveway in August to piss people off.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
You could tear up your yard, lay in a private second water line carrying reclaimed non-potable water, and replant with sustainable, local plants, and kill the resale value of your home.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 17, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve used my empty pool as my secondary water supply for about five years.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
It's also
his secondary urinal
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Filling it in…so… slowly…
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 17, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Cat's in the bag
and the bag’s in the pool
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
I'd hate to take a bite outta you
You’re a cookie full of foie gras
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 17, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I recently had a dinner party
where we all watched that movie afterwards. None of the guests had seen it before.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
That movie rules.
I work in publicity at a movie studio — nobody here has seen it, and I don’t know what to tell them.
I saw it on the big screen at the Brattle Theatre in Harvard Square. People cheered for the big lines.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 17, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I am amazed at the lack of knowledge
about movies at MPAA. We have stills of famous movies all around the building. I held a contest and the “winner” correctly identified 5 out of 25.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
the brattle!!!
i lived around the block from there. never saw a movie there thou, couldn’t ever decide which movie to spend my $10 on. every night was something amazing
I went to the Brattle quite often. Usually twice a week, sometimes as many as four times. I was living out in Waltham at Brandeis, so I often wondered whether I would make it back to Porter Square in time for that last commuter train back out to Waltham. Only missed it once but a few close calls.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 17, 2011 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions
one of my big regrets
was the lack of going out in my times in boston. mostly in fear of missing the last subway at like 12:15 or whatever. can’t tell you how many nights i had where i rushed out of a dorm room and down tremont to catch the red line at Park St hahah
My place knows better
Got takeout Friday and they already had the extra thai chilies in nam pla packaged for me. I tipped $10 on a $42 order.
This is funny
All the time, I have to ask people to make my food more bland. “Does this have any flavor at all in it?” I ask. “Because then it’s right out.”
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 17, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I have a couple friends
I have to make mild versions of my dishes. One always says “pain is not a flavor”
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Just don't ask for it
Col. Kurtz style
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
You make it sound like you might not survive it.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
he’s eating it in the Dodger parking lot
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Oct 17, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
My joke was going to be
He’s getting it in a Mexican restaurant
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
you did it wrong
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
This is information that would have been helpful to him BEFORE he went to the Thai restaurant when he asked for people’s help.
by Michael White on Oct 17, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
TBLA: We Are All Going to Hell Because We Are Assholes
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 17, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
dude, I said “you can order it mild”. I mean, if you’re worried about something being too spicy, how do you not say, “by the way, is this spicy? I don’t want it to be that spicy.”
Not to be a BoaJ or anything
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness
my opinion
If you’re going to a Thai restaurant to get it “mild,” you might as well go somewhere else. Granted there are mild dishes, but you should at least know enough about the cuisine before going. If I go somewhere to eat something I’ve never eaten, I’m accepting what they’re giving me. Burger King ruined the world.
I just never remember
ever seeing any orange sauce. I think he went to Panda King by mistake.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
It could be low grade peanut sauce.
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by regfairfield on Oct 17, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Meanwhile, silverwidow is sitting somewhere in his undisclosed location, thinking, “One goddam day I don’t go to Del Taco, and look what happens. This is fucking bullshit.”
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 17, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You gotta work your way there though. It’s hard to appreciate something if the only thing you can feel is pain.
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by regfairfield on Oct 17, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
There are tons of great Thai restaurants near me and yet there's also one near the beach that proudly serves
“Thai and American food” and looks like a diner. I was taught some time ago to not eat at places that advertise [ethnic cuisine] & American food" because they won’t do either right. But it’s intriguing nonetheless. I may try it at some point but will bring my own stomach pump just in case.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I'm now addicted to Archer Farms Tex Mex Trail Mix
to the shock of my wife who is not sure who this gringo she married is anymore.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Think of the poor carobs
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Don’t make him hurl. How will we make his liver grow to enormous proportions?
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 17, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I was at this game
One other note, DeWitt only had one hit in the 2008 NLCS but what a key hit it was. The Dodgers were down two games to zero against the Phillies but DeWitt’s bases loaded first inning triple would propel the Dodgers to their only victory against the Phillies in the 2008 NLCS.
It was so great
oh it was legit
I just find it funny that the 08 phillies team won it all, while the one with all the aces couldn’t get out of the NLDS.
Take them to
the Ramen house downtown where you get your picture on the wall for eating teir spiciest ramen.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Are those twins?
because I hope so
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
t-shirt available at the gift shop? : )
by Josie Becker on Oct 17, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m posting this because Derek Lowe is #1:
http://www.patrickfloodblog.com/2011/10/17/signing-free-agent-pitchers/
The one we gave him.
Then again it’s saying Randy Wolf was a better signing than Sabathia so he should probably think about the metric he’s using.
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by regfairfield on Oct 17, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
He is using dollars per win.
CC costs many dollars.
Therefore, Randy Wolf is better than CC.
QED
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 17, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
If you can sign Juan Uribe, Aaron Miles, and Giguree for half of C.C. salary, you do it.
by Tripon on Oct 17, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
So I’m working on a version of MLC that makes all of the stats available on the leader boards instead of just the few I chose, and I discovered that AJ Ellis is the most patient man in baseball. He swings less than anyone else and he has the second best strike out to walk. Free AJ.
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Why he’ll never get the chance
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 17, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
why don't they just throw him strikes
he has no powah!
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Because he’ll just smack it for a single
27% of the time.
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by regfairfield on Oct 17, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Gordon
AJ Ellis
Jim Loney
Kemp
Andre
Sands
Uribe
DeJesus
Would maximize Gordons’ stolen base potential with the most patient hitter in baseball batting second.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Wouldn’t that make the stolen bases way more meaningless if you have a guy that’s probably gonna walk behind him?
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by regfairfield on Oct 17, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
You said he hits a single 27% of the time he swings the bat. The patient part allows Gordon to pick his spot to run.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Maybe. My thinking was: stolen base+single=run. Stolen base+walk=why’d you even bother stealing.
Don’t know which one of us is right here.
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by regfairfield on Oct 17, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Except he said Jim Loney, so it’s either a HR or 2B
by Julio Nievas on Oct 17, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
All that meant was he has a .270 career average.
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by regfairfield on Oct 17, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Sure, but you do that and walk a lot it’s productive.
Kinda like when Ryan Theriot was useful.
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by regfairfield on Oct 17, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
It is a far cry from what we thought we were getting with AJ
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Not following.
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by regfairfield on Oct 17, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Even with his elite patience in the minor leagues I did not think it would translate to major league success.
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Sure, but at this point he’s got 250 PA and a .360 on base. That’s worth a shot instead of hoping Rod Barajas can be productive again.
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by regfairfield on Oct 17, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, but aren’t we surprised this is true? I don’t recall you thinking his numbers would translate
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Oh totally. I didn’t like the idea coming into this year but he was damn good when he got a chance. He’s earned the right to some play time.
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by regfairfield on Oct 17, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m all for AJ Ellis, #2 hitter. But I do value speed (though not above anything else) at the top of the order, making it easier to capitalize on hits from your #3 and 4 hitters rather than hoping your 5 6 or 7 guys come through every time.
Thing is, with Ellis if you bat him eight, and he walks, then you need a successful bunt from the pitcher to get him to second, a single from Dee to get him to 3rd, and another single to score him.
Easier if he would walk and trot after Kemp hits a home run. This would not be a problem if the slowest guys in the world didn’t have such good patience.
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I do actually like him hitting 8th with the idea that he’ll get on base and get the pitcher up. Something to be said for turning the lineup over.
In a perfect world that would be great. But this is probably going to be a lineup filled with out machines again and we can’t afford to bury someone that can actually get on base.
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by regfairfield on Oct 17, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
You expecting Uribe, TGJ, Sellers or DeJesus to be playing everday?
I watched a Tiger team with one real impact hitter and one real impact pitcher almost make the World Series. It will be hard for me to be negative with that in my memory.
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Something like that, along with Gordon and maybe Sands, yeah.
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by regfairfield on Oct 17, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
In the crapshoot playoffs, but they didn’t win 95 games and the AL Central that way, did they?
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Not for the year
BUT
Peralta is not doing that again
Nor is Avila
Nor is Fister
While watching the series were you worried about anyone in that lineup other then Miggy?
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Good last month of the year, pretty pedestrian/bad otherwise and non-existant (a broken ankle will do that) in the playoffs.
by Michael White on Oct 17, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, but Cleveland was in a race with Detroit at that time (though they were never as good of a club) and Detroit went on a freaking tear after the trade deadline.
by Michael White on Oct 17, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't most teams
Need a couple dudes to have career years to make the postseason? Or least it happens that way fairly frequently?
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Or have a lineup with Pujols/Berkman/Holliday. I think it helps to have good hitters in the first place.
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Of course it does, but
the Cards still got a lot of production from a lot of other guys in that lineup. Molina, Freese, Jay, Craig, hell even Furcal and Punto. And still won only 90 games (injuries).
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Not even a perfect world. Just a world where AJ Ellis has the lowest run producing potential of the other 7 hitters.
In a lineup that contains Juan Uribe and Justin Sellers, this is unlikely.
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by regfairfield on Oct 17, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
At least Juan Uribe you take the chance that he can get himself into scoring position once in awhile. no way he’s as bad next year as he was this year.
Thing is he could be a normal Juan Uribe and still kill us. They only way he helps us is if he has a good year which is a 50 / 50 proposition with him.
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He’s had four years with a wRC over 90 and seven below.
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So 37% of the time, and he’s not getting younger.
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Better than Bull Durham
In 1990, weary of repetitive interviews, Phillies pitcher Don Carman posted this list of responses on his locker. "You saw the game," he told reporters. "Take what you need."
I’m just glad to be here. I just want to help the club any way I can.
Baseball’s a funny game.
I’d rather be lucky than good.
We’re going to take the season one game at a time.
You’re only as good as your last game (last at-bat).
This game has really changed.
If we stay healthy we should be right there.
It takes 24 (25) players.
We need two more players to take us over the top: Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig.
We have a different hero every day.
We’ll get ‘em tomorrow.
This team seems ready to gel.
With a couple breaks, we win that game.
That All-Star voting is a joke.
The catcher and I were on the same wavelength.
I just went right at ‘em.
I did my best, and that’s all I can do.
You just can’t pitch behind.
That’s the name of the game.
We’ve got to have fun.
I didn’t have my good stuff, but I battled ‘em.
Give the guy some credit; he hit a good pitch.
Hey, we were due to catch a break or two.
Yes.
No.
That’s why they pay him _ million dollars.
Even I could have hit that pitch.
I know you are, but what am I?
I was getting my off-speed stuff over so they couldn’t sit on the fastball.
I had my at ‘em ball going today.
I had some great plays made behind me tonight.
I couldn’t have done it without my teammates.
You saw it … write it.
I just wanted to go as hard as I could as long as I could.
I’m seeing the ball real good.
I hit that ball good.
I don’t get paid to hit.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
True or False
If you took away every one of those responses a clubhouse would be on mute after a game.
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Every answer would be
I’m in the best shape of my life.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Arik Armstead, brother of current USC defensive tackle and one of the top defensive line recruits for 2012, has withdrawn his commitment to USC. His family is apparently unhappy with some of the things going on at USC.
Are they not being paid enough?
Is Jim Loney also
a free agent after 2012?
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ah....
letting someone else find out if he is any good in 2012 and signing him as a FA for 13? had not thought of that one.
Meerkats at a Children's hospital
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-10-15/meerkats-move-in-to-melbourne-hospital/3573248
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I just got back from down under. Haven’t been around here for a while because we are in huge demand. I just booked that family, and now I’m getting calls from everywhere. People love our goodnaturedness, plus they seem to respond to the deep pools of wisdom within our eyes. A meerkat has the history of the world in their eyes. Plus we don’t throw feces like the monkeys do.
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That's actually a wonderful idea.
I could stare at those guys for hours at the SF Zoo. Or I used to, until they built lemur world. Can also watch those guys for hours.
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Lemurs and Gibbons
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my dad had his pipe stolen by a Gibbon at the zoo when I was a kid
one of the funniest things I’d ever seen at that point.
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We have a Gibbons sanctuary out here about an hour away. I’ve done some volunteer work there and we get to watch the Gibbons, they have 17 cages on the property. Not open to the public. They are very entertaining.
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Which behavior watching is more entertaining, a sanctuary full of gibbons, or the TBLA puppy at a bowling alley and Irish pub?
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is the TBLA puppy an actual puppy or Ivdown?
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A whoile sub thread
full of Gibbons and not one blind joke.
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Getting a kitten together is like getting engaged.
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not really
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It’s what my wife told me when we got a cat when I first moved in:)
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Are they playing together?
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they actually were this morning, which I didn't appreciate as it was before 7am
though I wasn’t actually sure if Bodhi was playing or attempting to smack the everloving stuffing out of Koufax. It was cute. There’s about to be Cat Warz in and around my person soon. Koufax is sitting on my shoulder and Bodhi wants up on my lap. Hooray.
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Koufax wants down to go see what Bodhi's doing
Bodhi jumps into my lap. Bodhi jumps down, and Koufax wants up.
I am never having children.
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Sounds more rewarding than guinea pigs at least.
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by regfairfield on Oct 17, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Though Bodhi is a little more spry than I expected and would probably just sit on top of their tank waiting for one of them to make a mistake.
See that sounds fun.
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by regfairfield on Oct 17, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Chinese Water Draygons are little too big for Bodhi. Bodhi is more about destroying moths.
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Ours love the large grasshoppers
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Bodhi will not be contributing to the decrease in bird population. Friend said that Koufax is part Maine Coon which is going to be super entertaining if it’s true.
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If true he will be a large cat with a great personality.
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two Maine Coons in our house
they are good cats
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 17, 2011 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions
When I was housesitting for my uncle, I saw one of his cats swat a bird out of midair then drag it off to eat it.
It was insane.
This cat would be fun to watch
from a distance.
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My puppy
is getting to be good at catching and torturing rats. I find about one a week in the back yard. I end up picking them up by the tail and depositing them in the trash bin. Sometimes still alive
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Also fun!
Here’s my guinea pigs day.
-Lay in pigloo – refuse to come out
-At some point sneak out when no one is looking and eat vegetables
-Lay in pigloo – refuse to come out
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by regfairfield on Oct 17, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
You need that crazy ball they roll with. Those are fucking awesome.
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Guinea pig spines can’t handle it. Hamsters only.
There is literally no fun to be had with a guinea pig.
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by regfairfield on Oct 17, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Just ended up with one of those. The bunny actually interacts with us so I’m all for it.
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by regfairfield on Oct 17, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
There are too many wild rabbits in my neighborhood to believe that the coyote population is any sort of problem yet.
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Dont see any rabbits in my hood
I got lots of coyotes. Saw one this morning on the way in to work
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We have lots of coyotes
I see and hear them all the time. But the fucking rabbits well, reproduce like crazy, and they all like to eat my grass. And leave pellets all over the damn place.
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Josie Phact:
According to someone with credentials, the trapping and shooting of Coyotes does nothing to reduce the population. He said that if you kill the main female in the group, then all the females will mate and produce pups while as long as a main female is in charge she is the only one to get the goodies.
This came up in Calabassas because they just enacted an ordinance to outlaw the trapping.
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Unless you are an experimental scientist with a sadistic side.
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The movie lied to me?
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If it made guinea pigs look at all fun, yes. They’re just cowardly poop machines.
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by regfairfield on Oct 17, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
they chirp. that’s about it.
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They occasionally hop.
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by regfairfield on Oct 17, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
BBQ'd, shaved guinea pigs
are sold in the Andes Highlands on a stick. I was at the Inti Raymi festival awhile ago and the “cuy” vendors were selling them like hotcakes in the Sacsayhuaman amphitheater.
by The Dude Abides on Oct 17, 2011 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I had a Guinea Pig as an 8 year old. My brother drowned it by accident.
I saw a movie with a dog, a GP, and a cat, and the GP traveled across the country in his ball. The dog was like IvDown, the Cat was like Reg, the GP was like no one we have.
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well it's also really funny
because Bodhi will come into a room and take the high ground (couch, bed, whatever) and then the kitten will try and sneak up on him. Except Koufax has a cold so you can hear him coming.
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We had to put a bell on the puppy because we kept stepping on him. Also to protect the other animals so they knew when a charge was coming
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I have the same thing
with my labs. One loves to sit on the couch next to me. The puppy doesn’t want to sit there, but doesn’t want him to either, so she chews on his ear until he moves. She walks away and he jumps back on the couch and the cycle starts again.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
It's just a little
kitten on the side
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
no wai!
I have no clue what I would sing, but I know one song I do pretty well and that everyone would think it would be perfect for me to sing is Tainted Love
:)
Really? Because I don’t want to watch you sing Tainted Love.
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Somehow I think My Best Friends Girl applied to you at some point
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I did that on my 21st birthday with my dad at midnight
No joke. That is actually an incredible not karaoke friendly song to sing, haha. I think I gave up on singing Boston, the pitch is too high for me to pull off.
I’m with you. There are a lot of fun songs that my low voice just isn’t meant to be good at. Doesn’t stop me from rocking out to them in the car.
I’ve yet to meet a song that I could sing other then Frankenstein
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Only karaoke I've ever sung
was “Imagine” with a co-oworker when I was wasted at a holiday staff party. Thankfully no video exists.
Oh I'll do that no problem
Even if i do it in front of my friends and even girls I date, lol. Just in front of a whole room is tough
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That song conforms perfectly to my theory about the Police: they didn’t write songs; they wrote 2/3 of songs then just repeated the last line from the chorus over and over.
This is true for every song in the 80s.
“You know what would sell this song? If we just went “shout shout, let it all out” for the next five minutes.
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by regfairfield on Oct 17, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Love Shack
best karaoke song ever
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I’d expect all their songs must be fun
Still remember the first time I heard Rock Lobster, what a hoot
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I saw the B-52s
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Some cool news today
@Dodgers Los Angeles Dodgers:
Congrats to Clayton Kershaw on winning the 2011 Warren Spahn Award as the best left-handed pitcher in #MLB! bit.ly/nYKuqZ #ClaYton
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by underdog on Oct 17, 2011 2:51 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Jack Elliot won the Jerry Johnson Award for leading the Yankees in 8th inning doubles in the month of August.
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awww, being the best lefty in baseball is all kinds of awesome
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I’ve just never heard of the Warren Spahn Award, and it seems a bit like having an award to honor the title player rather than the player winning it.
Ryan Braun celebrating winning the Ryan Braun award for being the best guy named Ryan Braun for the fifth time in sixth years.
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by regfairfield on Oct 17, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Well I admit the CY will be more wonderful
but maybe this is a step to that.
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fWAR does not got back to 1962.
Having a tough time deciding between Ramon’s 1990 and Don’s 1959. Don did pitch in the World Series in 59 and went 1 – 0.
Player WAR ERA+ ERA fWAR G CG W L IP H BB SO Year
Don Drysdale 6.7 122 3.46 44 15 17 13 270.2 237 93 242 1959
Clayton Kershaw 4.5 132 2.91 4.7 32 1 13 10 204.1 160 81 212 2010
Ramon Martinez 4.1 126 2.92 5.1 33 12 20 6 234.1 191 67 223 1990
Ismael Valdez 4.1 117 3.32 3.8 33 0 15 7 225 219 54 173 1996
Chad Billi 3.7 135 3.31 2 43 1 12 5 147 131 64 141 2007
Fernando uela 2.6 96 3.75 4.2 35 9 15 10 257 245 99 189 1983
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Fernando threw 257 in a five man rotation.
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3.28 FIP explains the fWAR
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Yeah
In 1983 I thought Fernando was awesome
In 2005 I hit bref and thought Fernando was barely league average in 1983
In 2011 I hit Fangraphs and learned that while Fernando was neither awesome in 1983 he was also not league average.
In 2015 I will find out that Fernando’s 1983 was one of the 10 best ever for a lefthander at the Ravine based on the regWAR
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This is a tough one
I think you’d be right no matter who you choose, but my money is on Drysdale. bWAR does a lot better job with pitchers than fWAR, IMO
totally off topic question
wasn’t there a commenter here or on DT that had familiarity with Latin?
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whenever I need the scoop on some heinas, I know who to turn to :)
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Ithink that's
Pellam. He’s a facebook friend
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DT at one time had numerous scholastic members but they don’t seem to have moved to TBLA. Or if they had, they stay mute.
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darn.
this latin passage we were assigned is really another few steps up from what we had been doing in class. ;(
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you take that back
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Wow, I totally misread that at first.
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It would have been ok
if she was ugly?
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Some awesome photos
of the NY subway in the 1980’s. New York was a tough town
http://vintage-everyday.blogspot.com/2011/10/new-york-subway-in-80s.html
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Wow
It’s hard to imagine now what it was like back then.
I know I’ve discussed it with you in the past, but I have a hard time picturing “rough” Pasadena from the same time period. I’ve heard it was a rough town but it’s hard to imagine considering how nice it is now.
by Michael White on Oct 17, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
What is now upscale “Old Town” was bars, strip clubs, porn shops and thrift stores in the 60’s – early 80’s. Nobody went there unless they were buying drugs.
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Yep
That and the 35er are about the last vestiges of the old days. I hear the "Pawn Shop on Raymond and Colorado is closing up
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Really?
That’s been there forever. Right next to what used to be Famina (which is now a pricey Jewish deli).
I remember when people people stopped going to Westwood. (We started going to Century City.) Rumor has it they started going to Pasadena. All along, Santa Monica was probably the correct call. This was the late 80s.
I lived in Santa Monica from 85 – 90, they waited until I left before they decided to make it the happening place.
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Me neither
I keep meaning to check it out
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I like it, it looks pretty nice now and has a lot of stuff to do.
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Just make sure you have an ID.
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by regfairfield on Oct 17, 2011 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
and not a passport
because fuck passports
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I love my passport.
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so do i
security at the yard house, not so much
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I was just at a Yardhouse
They didn’t ask for my ID
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Nolander would not be polite in his response to this
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heh
more and more places have settled for simply asking if I’m over 21 instead of checking. I don’t know if I’m getting older or their gtetting lazier.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
In New Mexico, everywhere cards pretty religiously. I think of all the times I’ve had drinks, I’ve only not been carded twice, and one of those was because my friend was the server.
In Colorado, I didn’t get carded at like half of the places.
Nashville cards all the time
no matter what. kinda cool
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Are you saying they don’t accept a passport as a legal document to prove your age? That is absurd.
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It’s easier to get into Ireland than it is to get into the Yard House.
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by regfairfield on Oct 17, 2011 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
fucking right
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness
It is possible the security person was so dense he did not know what a passport was?
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
yardhouse is super strict
Passport makes much less ense then not taking an expired id
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Not my scene, tall good looking people with appearances of money.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
This is why movies like Escape from NY did not seem so far fetched.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
The Warriors
though it looks a little silly nowadays.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
love that flick
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 17, 2011 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
What time does the game start tonight?
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Hey Ho - I saw Red
with Bruce WIllis. I liked it, kind of funny the only part I saw before had nothing to do with the movie.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
I saw that in the theater
I thought it was a fun movie, plus I liked the idea of old people kicking ass.
Follow @DavidYoungTBLA
- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Last night on TBS, the guide said Forest Gump was on while I was watching baseball.
Tonight, the guide says MLB Baseball, but Friends is on.
MADNESS, THEY CALL IT MADNESS!
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- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Madness?
THIS. IS. BASIC CABLE!!!!!!!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 17, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Our house, in the middle of the street
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 17, 2011 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought I saw
Forrest Gump out there in the Milwaukee infield last night
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Time for David or Michael to step up, Eric and I have done our share in Xeifrank’s contest. Eric owned Saturday and Sunday.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Not being around during the weekend cost me.
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Eric
No Dodgers
No Lakers
No Clippers
UCLA sucks
What is a SBN Los Angeles Editor to do?
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
I believe Ron Fairly
holds the “record” for most career HR (215) without ever having a 20+ HR season.
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- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I know this is from Heyman, but I chuckled at this
•One agent says Albert Pujols should look for a six-year, $240MM deal in free agency. It’s hard to imagine anyone, even Pujols, signing for $40MM per year.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 17, 2011 5:55 PM PDT reply actions
One agent = Scott Boras, amirite?
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haha, yeah
thought that was the second chuckle
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 17, 2011 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Not a St. Louis site but KG needs help
Kevin_Goldstein Kevin Goldstein
Also an option if nobody comes through. RT @DanAllsup: @Kevin_Goldstein Why not just call your mom KG.
1 minute ago
Kevin_Goldstein Kevin Goldstein
Seriously, we don’t want to be stuck with this guy. RT @Palo50: @Kevin_Goldstein I think Coleman and McGee will key the Cardinals run.
2 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
Kevin_Goldstein Kevin Goldstein
Also, we need that Cardinals expert in the next 30 minutes or so, preferably.
3 minutes ago
Kevin_Goldstein Kevin Goldstein
Hoping more for a Cardinals expert of at least minor renown. RT @BUhlenhake: @Kevin_Goldstein What if I just cover the “stuff” part?
3 minutes ago
Kevin_Goldstein Kevin Goldstein
Anyone want to be an impromptu guest on tonight’s podcast? Must be a Cardinals expert, and you know, smart and stuff.
8 minutes ago
Will Leitch just responded to him, so he might be on
by Eric Stephen on Oct 17, 2011 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Revis Island
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 17, 2011 6:02 PM PDT reply actions
it is a bit easier when you get to rape people
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 17, 2011 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions
There are apparently two throwing athletes in Florida named Matt Moore.
One has a future.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 17, 2011 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions
hmmm, a puzzle wrapped in a conundrum, surrounded by fish sauce
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 17, 2011 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, apparently the Winnipeg Jets are a thing again
by Eric Stephen on Oct 17, 2011 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey Joe
whaddya know?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 17, 2011 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions
My liver is sore
two weeks of business dinners followed by a weekend in wine country with the Mrs
I am done
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 17, 2011 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions
sounds great – I am game for drinks and World Series together
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 17, 2011 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions
this calls for a Homer Simpson Quote
“This is the last bar in town. If I can’t get a beer here, I’ll have to quit drinking!”
“yay.”
“QUIET LIVER!!”
(punches himself)
“Owwww, my liver hurts.”
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 17, 2011 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions
he is mastering all previously vexing domains
Baseball is now crossed off the list, Rihann’s ass was next
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 17, 2011 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Dodger Jeopardy for 200
What will they be saying about Frank and Jaime a year from now?
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 17, 2011 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions
The Cardinals' World Series
roster doesn’t contain a single Cardinal first round pick. The highest player drafted on their team is Lance Lynn who was drafted in the 1st Round Supplemental (39th overall) in 2008.
But that beats the Rangers
who only have 6 players on their 25-man roster that they drafted, the highest is C.J. Wilson, a 5th Round pick in 2001.
Byron Scott
came into his own in 1988. In fact, one the big options for Magic that year was the kick out to trailing Scott for the J. Back then, shooting 3s was still seen as not the thing to do, Scott did make his but he didn’t take that many.
MLB
You can set your watch by us
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
all central all the time
I am going Rangers
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 17, 2011 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Well if you’re gonna alienate the coasts, you might as well go all the way.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Oct 17, 2011 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I am a fan of the “nobody’s happy” school of decision making
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 17, 2011 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions
“You know, that Solomon guy was on to something”
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Oct 17, 2011 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions
/Eric Stephen
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 17, 2011 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions
looking forward to Matt Kemp’s SC commercial
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 17, 2011 7:05 PM PDT reply actions
THANK YOU!!!
now I can sleep
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 17, 2011 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions
no, that's tapeworms
if HJ had killed a dozen of those today, he’s either a serial kiler, or he needs immediate medical attention.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 17, 2011 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions
or he's a wizard
I’ve had my suspiscions
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 17, 2011 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions
99 problems but at (woman) ain't one
is a weird song to put on a video game commercial
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 17, 2011 7:43 PM PDT reply actions
Well considering the average Battlefield player.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Oct 17, 2011 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
to the track.......at the wall...........GONE!!!!!
Homerun for regfairfield
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 17, 2011 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions
thats sad
anyways, call of duty multiplayer tends to focus on smaller maps and more twitch based gameplay emphasising individual play without vehicles. Battlefield tends to emphasize larger maps with a greater number of players based around object team based strategic psynergetic gameplay with vehicles.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
It still attracts the hardcore gamer which is usually a male who doesn’t have a girlfriend.
I say this while being someone that has played WoW since it was released.
to be fair, if you were bonaging Beyonce, I’d hesitate to say you had girl problems, either.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness
and I miss raiding.
Is that weird? Too bad G can’t do it without totally destroying his life
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness
I've never raided
yet still love the game. I’m the odd gamer who just likes to do the quest and the odd instance or two. I’ve just never been able to commit the time.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
You and I are exact opposites. I do everything half-assed until distracted by something shiny and leave a bunch of half- and quarter-done shit lying around all over the place.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Oct 17, 2011 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe, but I was like this when I was 10, too.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Oct 17, 2011 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions
i used to identify as a hardcore g@m3r and watnot
I just don’t fucking know what that means anymore. Gaming is still my primary hobby, I just like to spread the love around. BF3 is probably going to suck me in big time like nothing has since COD4 and TF2
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I actually didn’t become a hardcore gamer until WoW came out. It also coincided with me getting sick so I had tons of free time (no longer could work). I played some video games before then (Command & Conquer series and a few others) but not much more than once or twice a week. I stopped playing video games a lot when I was in high school and didn’t start again until years later.
I guess being “hardcore” has always coincided with how much free time I had.
it comes from the verb
bonage, which is pronounced like montage. it means, to bone
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness
It attracts gamers
which is as diverse a group of people as any other. Some are simply more vocal then others.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
its really very dumb
which is why it will appeal to kids who like call of duty, which is what they want
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I enjoy the second verse of that song.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness
if he did
it would be pretty sweet
you should check out Catullus
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness
The difference between Eminem and Humma:
Eminem: 99 problems but a bitch ain’t one.
Humma: 100 problems. Hit me!
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Oct 17, 2011 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions
CRAP! I fucked up the joke.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Oct 17, 2011 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions
it's ok
it’s Em’s birthday. :)
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness
Hard to believe that guy is older than me and still bleaching his hair.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Oct 17, 2011 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions
i assume everyone has read this
but i’ll post it anyways: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7095696/the-collapse-red-sox
Mike Schur being rational about the red sox
I haven’t
I did
I enjoyed it
thank you – I only hope the worst for them
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 17, 2011 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions
it's funny how they not only collapsed on the field
now they’re self-destructing off of it.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 17, 2011 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions
mike schur
is an example of a red sox fan i can fully support.
its all the others that make me wish ill upon them. hell, i have the sox to thank for reigniting my love of baseball
I posted that here earlier but not sure that many people saw it so good to repost
Ken Tremendous FTW!
What a messy month to be a Red Sox fan. That ownership has been a PR nightmare and thrown too many people under the bus. May take a long while to come out of the mess.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Shaikin posted a Q&A on the divorce settlement
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-1018-dodgers-mcourt-20111018,0,6070660.story
Q: If the Bankruptcy Court does not order the sale of the Dodgers, do the terms of the settlement call for a sale?
A: If Frank still controls the Dodgers in the spring, and if he has not paid Jamie in full by then, he must put the team up for sale.
Q: Can Frank get $130 million without selling the team?
A: Frank has asked the court to let him auction the Dodgers’ television rights. He could use $130 million from those proceeds to pay Jamie.
If the court grants the auction but mandates the money be used only for the Dodgers, then Frank could try to sell a minority share in the team or some of the land surrounding Dodger Stadium. However, Commissioner Bud Selig almost certainly would oppose any such sale unless the money went back into the Dodgers.
Hopefully Von Miller will do that to him again next week.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Why on Earth don’t you go for it there? You gain one you win the game.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
In exchange for 26 yards.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Oct 17, 2011 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions
This just gives Reggie Bush a chance to gain 10 and wreck me.
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by regfairfield on Oct 17, 2011 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions
W.S.
I know ESPN park factors have their flaws, but they do tell a good story of what happened during the season. The HR park factor in Texas is 1.5 and in St. Louis it is 0.774. For total runs it is 1.409 vs 0.896. Number one hitters park vs number twenty five hitters park. Bet the under the first two games? :)
Game 6 of the 1981 World Series
is airing on ESPN Classic right now
Not sure if the air time is different for each time zone
Yeager knocks in Dusty
in your face Nettles
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 17, 2011 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
JayGlazer
The Raiders & Bengals are close to a trade that would send Carson Palmer to OAK for a first-rounder in 2012 and a conditional pick in future
First round pick???
Man, that’s steep.
The Bengals played this beautifully.
by Michael White on Oct 18, 2011 7:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Will he be good for 5 years is the question though?
I will offer no opinion of this trade otherwise, except he’ll be better than Kyle Boller that’s for sure. But would worry about how many draft picks the Raiders no longer have for next two years. They’ll get a couple of FA comp picks back but wow…
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Don’t have to watch the 2012 draft until Sunday now :)
by Eric Stephen on Oct 18, 2011 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions
chances are they fuck up the #1 anyways. they are pretty young all around for the most part, one year of missed picks should not kill them.
You simply need a lot of players in the NFL (because of how often players get hurt) and if you have 0 draft picks you end up with role players you signed off the practice squad of other teams. This does hurt quite a bit.
When the Giants won the Super Bowl 6 players drafted that year played in the Super Bowl Game; Aaron Ross (1st round), Steve Smith (2nd round) , Jay Alford (3rd round ) , Zak De Ossie (4th round) , Kevin Boss (6th round) and Ahmad Bradshaw (7th round.)
by Michael White on Oct 18, 2011 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Kevin Boss looked pretty sweet on Shane Lechler’s first NFL pass on Sunday :)
by Eric Stephen on Oct 18, 2011 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions
AdamSchefter
Carson Palmer to the Raiders now official. Compensation expected to be a 1 in 2012 and a conditional 1 in 2013.
That’s such a huge, huge price.
Really happy they have Carson Palmer, but holy shit that’s a steep price.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 18, 2011 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Who is running the show with Davis gone? Is this a move Al would have done? Are the Bengals poaching picks off a kid of his or something?
Al wouldn’t have known who Carson Palmer was, and would have asked for only two pieces of information: (1) Palmer’s 40 time; and (2) how many 40+ yard touchdown throws did he have.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 18, 2011 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions
played some 3v3 Fifa with k3v0 last night, holy shit that game is hard. I’m trying to learn the controls and how to play soccer at the same time. 2 games, 2 own goals, and ran into a teammate knocking us both down twice. was a good night.
i have not cared to find out
very frustrated with it, and would rather build my manager mode instead of play on line. on line everyone plays with barcelona, man u etc. I want to play with my team that is far inferior and i would just get killed every time, so its not fun for me.
NPUT
http://www.truebluela.com/2011/10/18/2498127/mike-scoscias-tragic-illness-gets-detailed
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
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