Jeff Kent, Best of the Graybeards, 40 and up
by Phil Gurnee on Oct 21, 2011 9:06 AM PDT
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Best 19 & 20 Year old Pitching Seasons, Fernando Valenzuela
Best 21 Year old Position Season, Adrian Beltre
Best 21 Year old Pitching Season, Fernando Valenzuela
Best 22 Year old Position Season, Willie Davis
The Dodgers have had only one productive season from a player 40 years old or older, and that player was Jeff Kent. It was not a good season for Jeff Kent as it would be his least productive season of his career, and subsequently his last. This came as a surprise to many who felt that a 40 year old Jeff Kent would be just as good as the 39 year old Jeff Kent who had still been an above average hitter. Jeff battled injuries most of the year and on Aug 29th went down for an eight count. He wobbled up by Sept 24th for four more games to prove he was ready for the playoffs, unfortunately he ended his career by going hit-less in nine postseason at bats. It was a bitter way for Kent to end his career, the 2008 team had enough talent to win a World Championship but he was unable to help them deliver that championship.
Player WAR/pos Year Age PA R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB BA OBP SLG OPS Pos Jeff Kent 1.3 2008 40 474 42 123 23 1 12 59 25 .280 .327 .418 .745 *4/3 Brad Ausmus 0.2 2009 40 107 9 28 4 0 1 9 5 .295 .343 .368 .712 *2 Rick Dempsey 0.2 1990 40 151 13 25 5 0 2 15 23 .195 .318 .281 .599 *2 Manny Mota 0.2 1978 40 37 2 10 1 0 0 6 3 .303 .361 .333 .694 Vic Davalillo 0.1 1977 40 48 3 15 2 0 0 4 0 .313 .313 .354 .667 /987 Sandy Alomar -0.2 2006 40 62 3 20 5 0 0 9 0 .323 .323 .403 .726 *2 Brett Butler -0.4 1997 40 401 52 97 8 3 0 18 42 .283 .363 .324 .686 87/D
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Generated 10/21/2011.
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40 Year Tidbits:
- Brad Ausmus shocked many with a decent season, in limited at bats, Brad put up the third best OPS of his long career.
- This would be the last year of the three years Rick Dempsey spent with the Dodgers. He had a great 1988 but 1989 and 1990 were not so kind.
- By this time Manny Mota was simply a pinch hitter garnering only 37 plate appearances over a full year of activity.
Vic Davalillo had a pedestrian season but he climaxed it with one of the most important at bats in the 1977 postseason and remains a Dodger folk hero for his good work. The SABR bioproj recounts the story and also tells you everything you could possibly want to know about Vic Davalillo.
In the top of the ninth inning of Game Three, reliever Gene Garber had retired the first two men to face him. Davalillo, whose speed was still intact, saw that the right side of the infield was playing deep. He "recognized that he was being given a gift...decided to take what was being given him...and dragged a perfect bunt past the mound."[39] Manny Mota followed with a fly ball to left that a lurching Greg Luzinski couldn’t hold; it fell for a double. A game-winning three-run rally ensued, propelling L.A. into the World Series.
From Baseball Reference Bullpen:
Davalillo, who played for six teams in his 16-year career, achieved some notoriety as the oldest player in baseball from 1977-1980 with the Los Angeles Dodgers, after having played from 1974 through 1977 in Mexico. Appearing often as a pinch-hitter, he hit .312 in both 1977 and 1978 as the Dodgers won the pennant each year. Vic had 24 pinch-hits in 1970, which tied the single-season record established by Dave Philley in 1961. The mark was then broken by José Morales in 1976 (Vic's 1970 total was subsequently shown to be 23). Davalillo finished his career with 95 pinch-hits in the majors.
And the improbable joy of Vic Davalillo, a name that I hold dear to this very day and a reference that I drop to people of my age. When they recognize the name, I realize I may have found a friend…
And the heroics of Manny Mota, on a team full of stars, someone who I loved then for reasons I still don’t know why…
And the clutch play of Bill Russell. I have come to not believe in clutch as a concept, but Bill Russell will always be clutch for me…
And the magic of victory snatched from defeat, though the pain of defeat snatched from victory was a lesson soon to me taught to me by the hated Yankees. But for this day, I was yet unspoiled.
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the national baseballerati are up in freakin arms over pujols et al leaving the clubhouse after the game last night.. they are embarassing themselves by bringing the knives out against these guys because they wouldnt get their precious generic quotes for their articles today..
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 21, 2011 9:13 AM PDT reply actions
they should just make it up
‘we won one, they won one. both teams played hard. were gonna be ready for game 3 on sat.’
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 21, 2011 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Like it or not, sticking around for the postgame is part of the job.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions
impugning pujols' leadership skills
is some bs tho if you ask me..
JeffPassan Jeff Passan
Leadership is a difficult thing to quantify. I do know this: Albert Pujols failed miserably at it after Game 2. Column: http://yhoo.it/oQ1EDa
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 21, 2011 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions
That Jeff Passan is horrible is a separate point.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions
one more for the road
JeffPassan Jeff Passan
Pujols, Molina, Holliday, Berkman disappeared tonight on field and in clubhouse. All left before talking.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 21, 2011 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Does Jeff know that there are people who think he is a joke
a freaking joke
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Do you read him enough to make this case?
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easily at least a dozen articles
my small sample has been 100% bad
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions
True or False #1: That’s all that matters
True or False #2: As a society we’re so ravenous for information that we’ll click any link from a reputable source despite the author or content, thus making page hits an irrelevant measure of quality.
I am not sure what you are asking in question 1
question 2 – I think quality of baseball writing is at an all time high, some guys aren’t so good, but if I am running from work I may read them anyway usually to my disappointment. Overtime, I don’t make time for people who I think suck, so page hits overtime probably do have a correlation of quality for me
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions
In the particular case of Passan, Yahoo! doesn’t usually tell you when the source is Passan before you click on the link. If an article says “Matt Kemp: MVP Candidate,” one might click on it to read the story without knowing if it was Passan or Tim Brown or ’duk or whatever.
If I see an article is Passan, I usually don’t read it anymore, but they got their precious page-click.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
You know, with most guys even if I hate them I can still find their purpose. Not with Passan.He’s too bad to get acclaim, not bad enough that he gets McCarver Is Bad hype, and not an asshole like Simers who at least gets you talking about whatever it is he’s writing. Plashke at least does the person pieces okay, but Passan is a black hole.
PASSAN CHOP!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
LOL
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 21, 2011 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
how else would you get to throw ice water at Joe McCarver?
by Josie Becker on Oct 21, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
I think it’s somewhat deserved because The Cardinals Don’t Do Stuff Like That
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
That’s what I was thinking to. Perhaps not the shots at their character, but if the Cardinals usually do stay after to talk to the media and this time they didn’t, that seems significant and worth reporting.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2011 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Team loses heartbreaker, players leave in a huff, media left in the dust, all because Pujols couldn’t bend over an extra inch.
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Nice callback to exquisite corpse.
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by David Young on Oct 21, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Sure, but in the more recent past, there’s been guys like John Vander Wal, Mark Sweeney and Tomato Saenz, who were pretty close to exclusive pinch hitters.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 21, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Phil this series is really great. Thanks for doing the work to get all the info.
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yeah man, it boggles my mind how they come up with this ideas… Do they just sit there and think what can I write about today? Lets talk about 40 year olds. Lets see how many HRs the Dodgers hit it between 7:55pm and 8:15 monday thru friday night games for the past 5 years. I guess thats why they do what they do and I dont. Im always more focused on the present then the past though. But its some interesting stuff forsure.
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by David Young on Oct 21, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
come on man
Kemp and Kershaw just gave us seasons in the present that were as great as anything in the past.
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My point was, we know Kemp had a great season, but how great? Where does his season, at his age and position, lie in the context of others? It’s why we both to keep all time rankings lists. Who cares that Babe Ruth hit 714 home runs? What does that even mean? But when you put it in the context of his time, his competition and the type of game that was being played by everyone else during his career, that is what lets us know he is the greatest offensive threat of all time.
right… thats the mind of a baseball fan. Me personally, I dont like comparing this guy of the present to that guy of the past. Ive never really been into that stuff. But I respect that its important to others. How I know what Kemp and Kershaw did was great is because nobody else did it this year but them, basically. That said, I’d trade Kemp and Kershaw seasons for a World Series championship right now. Winning is the end result, and thats what I remember most. I realize im alone in that, but thats fine with me.
sure
I love the Dodgers because I love baseball. I do not love baseball because I love the Dodgers
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
And I will not abandon memories of great individual performances or games because they didn’t result in a championship.
I’m not saying I will abandon memories of it, but not winning does leave an empty feeling to it for me… Like Fisher’s .04, we didnt win title, ruined that memory…. Or the Bush push, we lost to Texas, ruined the memory for me…. Kobe’s lob to Shaq for the 1 handed jam vs Portland in game 7 in 2000, great great memory for me because of what it led to. We all have our own ways of viewing things.
by uschris0304 on Oct 21, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions
I wonder how that Gibson HR in 88 would be viewed among us had Dodgers ended up losing that series. Probably wouldnt for alot of you, but I think it would for some.
by uschris0304 on Oct 21, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Ask Bostonians about Carlton Fisk.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Ask Dodger fans of a certain age about Bob Welch and Reggie Jackson.
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by David Young on Oct 21, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't understand why not winning it all will ruin a great memory
Mark Loretta’s walk off in 2009 was incredible, just because the Phillies continued being assholes and beat us doesn’t make that hit any less awesome.
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this alley leads nowhere
trust me, I have seen the bricked up dead end
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
This conversation is nothing that can’t be cured by a sushi burrito.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Oct 21, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
How do you know?
You can’t compare the awesomeness to an alternate universe where the Dodgers ended up winning the World Series.
I agree with Chris, the Gibson homerunw ould have been less awesome if they didn’t win the series.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
It may have been better
But I hold it in the same regard from the day I saw it in person to the day after the Dodgers were knocked out of the playoffs.
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But I can
Since I can actually remember the Dodgers winning a couple WS.
As I said before, Bob Welch striking out Reggie Jackson was awesome then, and it was still awesome afterwards, even though the Yankees won the Series.
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by David Young on Oct 21, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Throwing that in my face. Well played Young.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
my happiness at that moment cannot be described any better than ejaculatory
I exploded up out of my chair and was deliriously happy
I can still feel a little of that happiness bouncing around in me right now, cannot write about it without smiling
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
That series was so great. Ron Cey’s GS in game 1 to tie the game late (only to fall later), then Dusty Baker matching it with a GS of his own in game 2 to break the game open early – I can only steal your “exploded up out of my chair” to describe my response, not quite believing we got ANOTHER slam – then finally ending with Tommy John beating Steve Carlton and seemingly depressed Phillies team while a steady rain fell on Veteran’s Stadium. Great, great series.
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by David Young on Oct 21, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah its a tough situation for me to explain fully, and im sure nobody cares all that much anyways. But It depends on the situation I guess. Those moments I mentioned are still good memories for me, but lost luster because of the ending. Like a good movie, with a bad ending. I’ll remember it, but probably wouldnt want to watch or relive it again. That moment you mentioned was a good memory. But wouldnt it be an even greater moment in Dodger history had we won it all?? I think so, and thats all im sayin.
by uschris0304 on Oct 21, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
You are right, Davey Lopes had a world series game for the ages in 78 but since we lost the series only those who were there remember it, No one write about it. Gibby’s home run would still be a highlight but if the Dodgers had not won the championship it would a great memory but not the greatest memory as most dub it.
Dave mentions the Welch strikeout but only old Dodger fans remember it. I think if the Dodgers had gone onto to win that series and if Welch had not subsequently lost game four it would a much bigger deal then it is.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 21, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t even remember it now but I suspect Marlin fans have it deeply registered.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 21, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Still Chris the biggest difference between us is that you only care about a World Championship, I only care about enjoying the season which is why 2011 was still a success for me because for two months, I enjoyed this season and since it came at the end of the year, the warmth will stay with me over this winter.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 21, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
2011 was a weird year
I’m not really sure how I’ll remember it. I suppose for Kemp and Kershaw, but the incredibly bad start sort of took all the drama out of it. The end of the year was nice in a “its better to win than lose” sort of way, but it didn’t matter. It’s the first time since 2005(?) that the Dodgers had no hopes of a post-season so early in the year.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I will remember 2011
for Kemp and Kershaw, and then Loney’s legendary last 6 weeks of badessery.
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and Kenley Jansen
being baddest bad ass of all the bad asses to ever throw a baseball
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 21, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
and that fat catcher who got only two hits all year, yet both being game ending HRs
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Splash Navarro couldn’t stem the tide of the rising Ellis
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 21, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
I’ll remember Jansen striking out a bunch of dudes everytime someone challenges the record and his name pops up on the list, but I’ll probably forget he existed within a couple years if he doesn’t stay relatively awesome.
Same here.
Picture 20 years from now and somebody brings up the 2011 team. I assume I’ll remember CK for his break-out year and probably Kemp. Jansen won’t register.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Crazy talk
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 21, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Think of how Broxton is viewed now. The trip from the penthouse to the outhouse isn’t a long one.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
The difference being that Jansen will strike out Jeter / ARod / Teixeira in the 8th inning with the bases loaded in game one, and follow that by striking out Cano / Montero / Berkman in the 9th to preserve the 1 – 0 victory.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 21, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
In 20 years will you remember 2010 for the year Kuo set the LAD franchise record for lowest ERA?
Did you even remember it now?
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
In 20 years I’ll be dead
Yes
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 21, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
What do you remember of 1991?
After that much time, it all becomes “this is what I remember about that time period” and seasons blend together. At least, they have for me so far. I remember the mid-90’s Dodgers for the Rookie of the Years, and for playoffs exits to the Braves (and Cardinals?). Beyond that there are moments and events that I remember, but I couldn’t tell you exactly what the 1997 season means to me anymore than I remember 2009 for anything other than the NLCS.
It wasn’t even that long ago, and I find myself blending 2001-2003 making this sort of super-team in my head (all the good get placed in 2002, all the bad in 2003.)
Heck, i screwed up the other day thinking Belisario was on the 2008 team when he didn’t show up until 2009.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
also
the reason I do these winter writing exercises is to remind me of the past. I could go five years with out thinking of Vic Davalillo but once I gloam onto his name, the memories come with it.
The reason not remembering Kenley Jansen is crazy talk is that unlike Big John Broxton, Jansen is going to be the next Lee Smith and will still be pitching 10 years from now.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 21, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
:(
I don’t even get this reference, because it has nothing to do with women, Albert Pujols, or liking every movie apparently.
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Unbridled optimism in a cold, unforgiving world.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Honestly
without Google to prod me, I remember little beyond 1981 while everything from 1966 – 1981. However once Baseball Ref gets the juices flowing it all comes back, at least most of it.
The difference being that from 2008 – 2011 I was writing about this stuff so I think I’ll remember Kuo because he was my fave five for about three years and because I’ve written about him numerous times.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 21, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I will always remember Kuo because I am relatively certain that if I didn’t write about his closing in on the ERA record (with some help from Josh Suchon, who mentioned it one day I wasn’t there) the Dodgers wouldn’t have altered Kuo’s usage in order for him to get enough innings for the record.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
ha ha
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 21, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
That's
using your powers as a blogger
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
I can't remember much about the 90s
But I remember Shawn Green, Paul Loducca, Sheffield, Paul Quantril, Mota, Gagne, Kevin Brown, Andy Ashby, Darren Dreifort, Hee Sop Choi, Darryl Ward, Adrian Beltre, Derek Lowe, Brady Penny, Steve Finley, Jason Phillips, Alex Cora, Cesar Izturis, Dave Roberts, and a bunch of other players who really weren’t all that significant.
Much of those names are from the mid 2000s, but if there is a certain event or a certain thing about the player like them being horribly awful or incredibly good for a short amount of time (Marlon Anderson).
I think for a normal fan only the stars will really be remembered 20 years from now. 20 years from now the hardcore fans will remember the events like Mark Loretta’s walk off, the events like Broxton against the Phillies in the playoffs, and small role players like Navarro just because we cared this much at the time.
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nope
but I recall moments more than “records”
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
that too
I will remember this year for him like Broxton as a set up man for Saito. Just domination.
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So basically you have little memory of the last 23 years?
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 21, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
come on!
We will all remember a season where we had the MVP and the Cy Young
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s why you think Mondesi was a better Dodger than Green? :)
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
What, the Warren Spahn Award, Hank Aaron Award and Baseball America Major League Player of the Year don’t count? :)
not a bad trophy, though I bet The Average Fan (tm) couldn't ID it
by Josie Becker on Oct 21, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Also
“Every book is a children’s book if the kid can read.”
-M. Hedberg
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
I wouldnt say I only care about a World Championship though its the goal of all teams and players so why isnt it the goal for a fan too? If Dodgers this year had made the playoffs, made a run, yet came up short, I think it would have made Kershaw and Kemp season more special to me as currently stands. They are still special to me anyways, but would be more so. Ofcourse winning the WS with an MVP and CY winner would be the ultimate memory no question.
by uschris0304 on Oct 21, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
It also depends alot of what is expected of the team. If the team is expected to win title, or be a major contender, and doesnt win title then yes it hurts alot. In Dodgers case this past season that wasnt expected, so just making the playoffs would of made me feel really good about them even if thats all they did. Still I do feel good about the way they finished, and the future.
by uschris0304 on Oct 21, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Nolij mentions the Fisk HR in the WS the Sox lost. Seems like the best counterexample.
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by David Young on Oct 21, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah, you guys keep sayin that… who is she?? haha im playin, but that was before I was born so I dont know the situation, ill read about it asap.
by uschris0304 on Oct 21, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
ha I knew you were going to say that Joe, weve been through this many, many times already.
by uschris0304 on Oct 21, 2011 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
I can't wait to see how Kemp's 26 year old season was compared to past Dodgers
I’m guessing it will go head to head with one of The Duke’s best seasons, if these are going back that far to Brooklyn.
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especially
after we get Dwight Howard, amirite? High Five! :)
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 21, 2011 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I hope you are right man, that would be awesome.
by uschris0304 on Oct 21, 2011 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
i'm mostly joking
but it wouldn’t surprise me at all really.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 21, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Especially not after Kobe gets Amnesty Claused and we run with Pau/Dwight as Tim/David with Ron Artest playing the role of Malik Rose and Steve Blake as our Mario Elie.
hahahaha
Kobe AC’d, oh the comedy
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 21, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s not that crazy, but I’m a Kobe basher, so….
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2011 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Isn’t he owed like a metric fuckton of money still? That doesn’t go away. Even Buss has limits on pocket depth.
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by David Young on Oct 21, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Eh, the guy just got a media deal valued in the billions.
No surprise that Buss is one of the owners who is ready to settle with the players.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
BTW, I might run the numbers later, but I’m not entirely sure they could make a max offer to Dwight even after AC’ing Kobe. You’d still have Pau, Lamar and Artest on the roster. You’d probably have to move Lamar.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
“The world needs ditch-diggers.”
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 21, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
careful
or i’ll make up crazy rumors about Grffin to the Lakers
DON’T PUSH ME MANG!!!!! :)
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 21, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
I take comfort in knowing that scenario is incredibly far-fetched. The Lakers would basically have to start tanking and clearing out cap-space now. And hope Griffin is insane enough to forgoe a max extension with LAC two years before he can test free agency. Spoiler alert: He’s not.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
agreed
twas joking
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 21, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Dont you ever say that about Kobe again haha…. Lakers cutting Kobe would be like Christians cutting Jesus… Dont talk about my lord like that ever again!
by uschris0304 on Oct 21, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
I’ve loved watching Kobe as much as the next fan, but he’s making so much and is on his way out that it’s not impossible to think the Lakers would be more successful with either Howard or Paul or Westbrook instead.
you are right, in reality. But there are just certain players that you just gotta roll with til the end IMO, even if it isnt for the better. Kobe is a guy that needs to stay and retire a Laker. I realize the time is coming where he isnt worth what he’s getting paid, and we’ll suffer for it, but thats ok for me, I’ll ride and die with Kobe.
by uschris0304 on Oct 21, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Don’t throw dirt on the guy yet
he might pull a Mark Twain on all our asses, would not surprise me a bit
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m not. Kobe doesn’t suck. He’s just making so much money that it’s almost impossible for him to be worth it. And I just mean in basketball value. LAL might make it all back selling jerseys for all I know.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
and win a world championship
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 21, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Ha. I thought about making that joke. “Sure, we’ll give you another $100MM extension Kobe, but you have to promise to change your jersey number again.”
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Didn’t Jordan go from 23 to 45. So Kobe will wear 46?
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by David Young on Oct 21, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Kobe should win his 6th this year, then switch to #23 and say “it’s my number now BIOTCH” while also spitting on LeBron at the same time for switching to 6.
LOL
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 21, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Why does Lebron what to be Steve Garvey?
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But if winning is everything, and keeping Kobe would keep you from winning championships for the next 3-4 years, what do you choose?
haha, again I think you guys are over stating how imporant a championship is to me. Yes its very important but not that extreme. Yes I would keep Kobe even if it meant I wasnt seeing another Laker title in 5 years. He is just that special a player to me. Besides with Lakers history I know it wont be long before I see glory again. Its Dodgers, USC, and Kings im more worried about.
by uschris0304 on Oct 21, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
you forgot to end it with
Grasshopper
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
It almost seems as if you are putting down this series
and I’m not 100% sure why.
This is a great idea, and Phil is going through every age for the top Dodgers and top players ever at that age.
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no, no, no dont say that im not at all putting anything down… If it comes across that way I apologize… I started off admiring the ideas they come up with, because I myself never would even think of it, so I respect them, and it is interesting. Then it led to something else that has nothing to do with this series.
by uschris0304 on Oct 21, 2011 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
knowing you for a bit, I knew you weren’t attacking anyone
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
If I dont like something someone writes on their blog I would never say so, or attack it. Its their blog, I dont have to be here, so I have no right to attack anything.
by uschris0304 on Oct 21, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
I would hope if you don’t like something any of us write you would say so.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
It definitely was not a good year for Kent
But I would most definitely take a .327 OBP and .418 Slugging from a 2B who was a decent fielder now. I know Kent was nowhere near a decent fielder by that point, but a slightly more powerful Jamey Carroll would be nice.
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iirc
kent totally killed it in 2006 when we were the wildcard. seemed like him, russ and betemit were the only players who decided to show up..
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 21, 2011 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Nomar had a darned good 2006, too, if I recall...
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Ethier killed it through July
Kemp had an awesome June or July, mostly with just those 7 HR though. As underdog mentioned Nomar was awesome till late August or so. The pitching staff was very good that year.
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BH was on his game last night
BH to one of the lovely owners of the wine bar "This wine is great, but not as great as your hair cut"
Sweetly delivered, I think she blushed
Vic only had 48 plate appearances but good bet that if he does not get the drag bunt single the Phillies are going to the 1977 World Series and not the Dodgers.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
self pimping (retry)
Vic is the subject of a favorite baseball memory here
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Damn Joe, this is a must read
I’m going to get this onto the main page
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
And the improbable joy of Vic Davalillo, a name that I hold dear to this very day and a reference that I drop to people of my age. When they recognize the name, I realize I may have found a friend…
.
And the heroics of Manny Mota, on a team full of stars, someone who I loved then for reasons I still don’t know why…
.
And the clutch play of Bill Russell. I have come to not believe in clutch as a concept, but Bill Russell will always be clutch for me…
.
And the magic of victory snatched from defeat, though the pain of defeat snatched from victory was a lesson soon to me taught to me by the hated Yankees. But for this day, I was yet unspoiled.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
No, thank you
sometimes I wonder why I bother writing, things like this are what make it worthwhile.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
awesoke story
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 21, 2011 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Joe, I do remember reading this before
likely linked from DT. A fine story and worth the re-read.
I was in my last year of high school that day and because I had gone to summer school every year, I had plenty of units, so I only had to take four classes that first semester, and I was out of school by 11:20 that day, and it was still a month before I would start by 4:30 – 8:00 part-time job, so I was able to watch this game on television as well. My memory isn’t anywhere as vivid as yours, but I know I watched by myself with my brothers at school and my parents at work. Both the ‘77 and ’78 NLCS with the Phillies were classic duals filled with great moments, a fine team to be a Dodger fan indeed, even the WS those two years didn’t go perfectly.
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by David Young on Oct 21, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
thx Dave
it was originally a comment in a thread in the last year of Dodger Thoughts on the Toaster
folks liked it, so I printed it out and gave it to my mom (she cried, it was nice)
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Wait, you were a senior in high school, had the house to yourself, and chose to watch baseball alone?
Right, if my friends were available, they would have watched with me.
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by David Young on Oct 21, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
My friends were stuck in class!
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by David Young on Oct 21, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
If the game is really important
to this day, I prefer to watch it by myself.
by bhsportsguy on Oct 21, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
while texting for three hours
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Oct 21, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Back in 1977 I did not appreciate how sometimes you play 162 games, fight a tight battle in the postseason, and one play can change everything. Greg Luzinski was skill swearing at Vic when Mota hit the fly ball that any left fielder in baseball catches, except Greg Luzinski.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I was a sophomore in High School
and we violated MLB rules by rebroadcasting parts of the game over the schools loudspeaker during lunch. I know I heard the last innings on the radio but I cannot remember how we did that.
I was at a scout camp the next day (Saturday) so I sneaked away for a moment and heard Tommy John and Dodgers win the 4th game on the radio.
For those of you young ones who cannot envision playoff baseball without TV, let me tell you, there is noting like the drama of a great game on the radio.
by bhsportsguy on Oct 21, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Like Dave
by the time I was a senior, I was down to 4-5 classes a semester and we were back in the day of an open campus so we would pretty much come and go as we pleased.
by bhsportsguy on Oct 21, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
I was 21 in 1977
Hard to believe I even cared about the Dodgers at that age. I get 77 and 78 mixed up. I remember Hooten’s melt down more than anything else from those series but have no idea what year it was.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
I remember sneaking my Dad’s transitor radio into Junior High School in 1963 to listen to the games. My friends and I all sat huddled together at the lunch tables so that no teachers could hear the game, and take away the radio. It was agreat year to be a Dodger fan. Swept the Yankees in four!
Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.
Pujols
Am I the only one who thought he looked slightly “old” last night? Missing that cutoff throw, the long fly ball to the fence but not over it…
Wasn’t the ball hit by Pujols the farthest ball hit by anyone last night? What does that make everyone else?
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions
less than
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 21, 2011 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions
and that ball last night
he hits that in TEX, it is going soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo far
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 21, 2011 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Mine was an emotional reaction, not to be backed up by facts. Just an epiphany that he’s not the same player he was 5-6 years ago. Everybody gets old….
not Phil – you see what that guy looks like?
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
nope…but I do a pretty…pretty…pretty good impression of him!
Ironically, my girlfriend used to be married to a second cousin of his.
and here I was just reacting to your use of “curb your enthusiasm”
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
a lot of folks are giving as much blame to Jay as Pujols
I’ve heard at least two analysts say that Jay’s throw looks like it just cut away from Pujols.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 21, 2011 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions
it, the ball was breaking away, but AP is a major leaguer, move your feet and catch the fucking thing
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions
for sure
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 21, 2011 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
he looked nonchalant, strangely sleep walking nonchalant
it was a terrible play of the variety you will see at every level of baseball time and again, except for the pros and those who have a shot at being a pro
funny, the level of perfection watching the pro game conditions you to
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
the speed of the game is something beyond comprehension. Even the difference between AAA and MLB is like upgrading from a Jeep Liberty to a F/A-18
I feel the same way about golf. I used to be a bit of a player
The better I got, and I was a single digit handicap, the more the game of the pro golfers amazed me. I felt like I was closer to a hacker who shoots a 100 than I was to a tour pro
I have said it before, pro athletes are better at what they do than most of us are at anything.
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Cramped small spaces, history of nasty accidents and a nose landing gear that sucks having to put back together while at sea, I would take the Jeep and be happy with it. PS I was an F/A – 18 Hyd tech for 5 years those things were a pain in my ass.
Grimjack
What was your kickaball buddy’s name who moved out to NYC? There is a guy who got placed on our team for this Fall from LA and I’m wondering if its the same guy.
We didn’t play them, but I think they got knocked out by our rivals in the sweet 16. I think they expected to do better.
they did not play in the Championship series, but Pitch please out of Hollywood did as did the Annexation of Puerto Rico.
It was really good for its inaugural year. Way more talent than in Founders Cup. Probably like 16 of the 20 best teams in the country were there.
Fosters and Sofa King got knocked out in the sweet 16.
We lost in the Finals to the #1 team in the country, but it was still a helluva day. Took home $2500 for 2nd.
Sofa King good?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 21, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
but he has made a few really good plays over at first in the postseason
When you do something right, people won’t be sure you’ve done anything at all
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 21, 2011 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Once he gets done with the LHP of the Rangers in Texas you might have a change of heart. For an old guy he kind of rocked it in Sept.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Oct 21, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Anybody know
How long NPB teams have the rights to their players? The posting system significantly depresses the value of the contract to the player. But Kuroda was old by the time he was a free agent.
Dam
The Raiders are reportedly considering shutting down K Sebastian Janikowski (hamstring) for a few weeks.
With a bad hamstring his max is probably only 54-55 yards. Understandable.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
He has been on fire this year…. for Raiders and my fantasy team, so double dissapointment. I know its just a kicker but he is a tough one to lose. Hopefully with Palmer only kicks we’ll need are XPs
by uschris0304 on Oct 21, 2011 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
LMAO
From @OldHossRadbourn
We need A.Pujols to speak to the media. He is the light of the world. He is the city on the hill. The eyes of the people are upon him.
Lol
I have no problem with his leadership skills. He’s not a coach, I don’t think a player has to have leadership skills to be important to a team. These people freaking out over this apparently just needed a topic to write about for filler.
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The 70s and 80s A's won without even liking each other
I don’t expect any player to be a player/coach.
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But they stayed after the game to tell everyone just how much they didn’t like their teammates.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
I had an idea for a series on here
I’m not sure if it’s been done or not, but it would be pretty cool to see year by year how past rotations have stacked up and some of the great pitchers on those staffs. Maybe instead of all of the, just certain great pitching staffs of the Dodgers picked out and talked about a little.
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Before allowing the two singles last night (to Kinsler and Andrus) in the ninth inning, Jason Motte had faced 31 batters during this postseason and allowed one single. Batters were one for 31 with seven strikeouts against him, and he had retired 22 straight batters.
Motte — applesauce.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Oct 21, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Slight correction
Batters were 1 for 28 against Motte (now 3 for 30) this postseason (still were 0 for last 22 before the two singles last night). I included his one scoreless inning against the Dodgers in Game 3 of the 2009 NLDS.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Red blood cells always taste better then white blood cells
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Oct 21, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Because it's not?
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
yeah I’d also have to disagree, I like the white better.
by uschris0304 on Oct 21, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
hard to find, not always better
clam chowder is mostly bad, but good chowder is truly sublime
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Bad Chowder usually
means a bad potato to clam ration. Plus a lack of butter
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
and too thick, cross the line and it is paste
also, needed liberal use of black pepper
and celery
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
that’s a better summary of my feelings
by Josie Becker on Oct 21, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Manhattan all the way, baby. When I was younger, I’d be a jerk at restaurants and ask which kind when they said, “Clam chowder.”
To my detriment I still have never had Manhattan clam chowder. I will rectify this someday.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
As I recall
I had a good Boston chowder at Grand Central Station in Manhattan
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
If that place isn’t called Oysters Rockefeller, it should be.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Oct 21, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
I believe it goes by the clever moniker of
“Grand Central Oyster Bar”
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
For a GREAT old school Martini in lovely Hollywood
Comes with a side car
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Martini’s with onions may be the nastiest shit ive ever had, maybe. Olives ok.
by uschris0304 on Oct 21, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Because
that is not true. Though one can prefer it more than the white one.
by bhsportsguy on Oct 21, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
the white is good in a sourdough bowl in select places in San Francisco. Otherwise terrible. But I’d never had red before and was pleasantly surprised
by Josie Becker on Oct 21, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
also good with tobasco.. and sriracha
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 21, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
If I could banish sriracha to a desert island, I would
by Josie Becker on Oct 21, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
This might be the most wrong you have ever been.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
whatever ref, I’m gonna go drink beer in the locker room
by Josie Becker on Oct 21, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m gonna go draw boobs on the Etch-A-Sketch
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 21, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
on the other hand
it would be delicious with all sorts of things you would find to eat around that island
makes it all tasty
yum
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Desert Island
Funny New Yorker cartoon in latest issue: “Would you stop listening to your ten all-time favorite albums and help me look for some food?”
Instant Rec
Bringing you the best punk, post-punk, and noise rock from the US/UK and beyond!
91.3FM KXCI, Wednesdays 2:30-5:00 AM (stream online at www.kxci.org)
Her name is Kerbopple?
I’ve been calling her Krandle! Why didn’t anyone tell me??
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Per Mark Simon of ESPN
Pitchers who have allowed 2 runs or fewer in 6 of their first 7 postseason starts:
Chief Bender
Sandy Koufax
Curt Schilling
Orlando Hernandez
Colby Lewis
HOFer. Charles Albert Bender, if you will.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
14 complete games and 13 saves in 1913. I thought they didn’t start counting saves until later . . .
Maybe he had a games finished bonus in his contract :)
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
He had big medicine
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
“Pfft! This isn’t medicine, this is rotgut whiskey!”
“They don’t call me Chief Bender for nothin’.”
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Oct 21, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Baseball nicknames were not too
inventive back in the day and it was pretty much guaranteed if you had any Native American heritage, you were going to be called “Chief”
by bhsportsguy on Oct 21, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Which Explains
Paddy
Highpockets
Dutch
Rube
Lefty
Gatemouth
Hoss
Stretch
Slim
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Dummy
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by regfairfield on Oct 21, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
“Shitty-Batter”
/Onion, LOL
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 21, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Vic Davalillo
Remember him from my early baseball card days. Also remember imitating his wierd batting stance in backyard whiffle ball games long before there was ever a batting stance guy. At around 8 or 9 years old, I’d stand in the living room with my little wooden Dodgers bat they use to hand out at D.S. imitating various MLB players to see if my dad could guess who I was. Fun times.
how many lampshades did you destroy?
I killed one in the living room once with one of those small Dodger bats. I was grounded for a week
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Re: Damage
Broke a couple of bedroom windows. Use to fire a hard rubber ball against the wall then swing at it on the rebound to me with my wooden bat. A couple of line drives destroyed bedroom windows. Amazingly, I was never grounded for anything I broke while excelling at indoor sports. One of the perks of having parents who liked sports. One time the wooden bat slipped out of my friends hands in the house. Pitching mound was in the kitchen and batters box was in the living room with a couch cushion as the backstop. I threw a wicked nerf slider and the bat went flying right past my head and dented the crown molding around the kitchen door behind the pitchers mound. Dent remained there well into my adult life as a reminder of those times.
My mother was a big Dodger fan
Unfortunately, she was also a big believer in grounding.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
I grew up living on a hill. As a five or six year old I would hit pebbles/small rocks down the back hill with a whiffle bat. It was great practice. Only thing was, there was a house a ways down from us that could be reached with a solid smack. One day they got fed up with rocks pounding down on their roof, yard, swimming pool and came knocking on our door. I was back in the house at the time with my older brother. When my mom called me to the front door to talk to the lady, the lady said it couldn’t have been me and blamed my older brother because I was too little to throw or hit rocks to their house. I didn’t get in trouble, but my parents always thought it made for a good story.
Deadly chicken spill
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/10/freeway-chickens.html
Josie might find it interesting as it referes a previous chicken spill that occured in 69
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Josie can fry them and eat them while she drinks beer in the clubhouse.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Beer and Chicken
Wade Boggs wonders what the big deal is. “I became a hall of famer on this stuff!”
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 21, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
The fact that there used to be freeway chickens just makes me wish there were always freeway chickens
by Josie Becker on Oct 21, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
I thought “Freeway Chickens” is what the truckers call roadside hookers
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
A big rig that spilled 5,000 live chickens ruffled a few feathers Thursday morning when they shut down lanes of a Northern California interstate near Vacaville
Wait, a chicken invasion of cow town?
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by David Young on Oct 21, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
For Josie
England hands keys over on first privatized prison. Company immediately proceeds to lose the keys.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-15404588
Am I the only one who pictures British prison keys to be large, made of black iron and on an oversized key ring?
Pirates was closed for renovations when I went to D-land for the first time in eight years. Made me a sad panda.
by Josie Becker on Oct 21, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
at what part? the “honey, how was your day” style who thing? the part where I hadn’t been the D-land in eight years? the fact that pirates was closed?
by Josie Becker on Oct 21, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
according to mouse planet, it won’t reopen until thanksgiving for major refurbishment. Maybe the fruit is going away again : )
by Josie Becker on Oct 21, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
sounds like hell. I ran into a couple of Oklahoma fans while wearing my UT shirt on Sat.
by Josie Becker on Oct 21, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I am not a fan of your UT shirtness. Mack Brown is the enemy.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
This seems like the question Karnak gives
to an answer I am not quite finding.
Hicks, dicks, and odd politics?
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wait, I thought you were anit disney, and pro knotts?
by uschris0304 on Oct 21, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m pro-fun is my official stance : )
I thought for awhile Knott’s had the greatest return for your money, being cheaper, less crowded, with good rides.
I may have been wrong.
by Josie Becker on Oct 21, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Charles Bronson (not the death wish one)
says WTF?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 21, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
no
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 21, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
that graphic’s about to run on CNBC. But there’s a gulf between carne asada and ground “beef”
by Josie Becker on Oct 21, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Someone went to journalism school to cover the story “Taco Bell is more expensive than Chipotle”
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by regfairfield on Oct 21, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
6.76 of pure hell
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
One of these companies uses real meat, is committed to sustainable farming, and is doing what they can, as a fast-food joint, to make the meal the best it can be, even setting up test kitchens with top chefs who are pushing the envelope on its menus.
The other is Taco Bell, which PETA supports because of the lack of meat content in its meat tacos. For real.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Oct 21, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
3 tacos for $1
at Del Taco. And I’m still alive. As much as people make fun of Taco Bell, I like it. If I am going to spend bucks on this kind of food I’m sure not going to Chipotle, I am going to hit up one of the great mom and pop places around town that has good stuff for the same or lower price.
Chipotle is reliable Mexican food for people without a good taqueria or those whose Mom and Pop place actively tries to kill them
by Josie Becker on Oct 21, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't think mom and pop stores
have a good equivelant to the healthyish burrito bowl I get at chipotle
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Yep. Chipotle and Mexican Food are two different things.
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by regfairfield on Oct 21, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
right
all the mexicans i work with absolutely hate it because it is not “real mexican food” i can’t get through to them that they are not really trying to be
it’s marketed as a “Mexican Grill”. And I need me some refried beans in my burrito or it ain’t happening. :)
don't they kinda have to say they are mexican though
as a rule? I don’t know how many people would walk through the door if it just said “Chipotle: Fresh Food”
they could name it
El Chipotle
or
Los Chipotles
or El Chipotle Mas Guapo
or something along those lines. Would be a dead give away, right? :)
Its mexican style, its not authentic mexican. Its not claiming to be… maybe its like an authentic jersey and a replica jersey. Both are called jerseys, but the authentic one is way better… Maybe it should be called Replica Mexican food then.
by uschris0304 on Oct 21, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Chipotle: based on the novel Push by Sapphire
by Josie Becker on Oct 21, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Used to get a killer burrito
in a mom n pop place in Pasadena for $5. It’s gone now, probably shut down by the health department, but man was it good
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Chipotle is too good.. they need to build more of them…. I’m praying for one in the Granada Hills shopping center on Zelzah and Chatsworth. They are building alot of stuff in that center… please, PLEASE give me a Chipotle!
by uschris0304 on Oct 21, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
I wouldnt complain about a Chipotle truck, atleast give me that.
by uschris0304 on Oct 21, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I went once because a friend invited me. Couldn’t find anything on the menu I liked and ended up paying decent money for something I didn’t want to eat. Never went back. God bless Taco Bell and Del Taco and my metabilism to burn that stuff off.
Didnt even know they had a menu, I havent been there much. Thought it was you want taco or burrito? chicken or steak? what you want on it, done.
by uschris0304 on Oct 21, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
pretty much
i guess if you don’t like meat and tortillas I could understand, but
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
But yeah I go to Del Taco atleast twice a week. Lovin the Taco deluxe. Doesnt break up like the Maco Taco, yet still has all the great features like salsa, cheese, and sour cream.
by uschris0304 on Oct 21, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
good thing im a Del Taco guy then… hell yeah, 3 for 1.09, and then thursday 3 for 2.09 chicken soft tacos… chili cheddar fries deluxe are the bomb too.
by uschris0304 on Oct 21, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
If I wasn’t perma-dieting, I’d go to Taco Bell too. I like it.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Never. But I’ve gotten less rigid as I’ve dropped the weight. I ignore the diet for weekend dinners and work dinners. Also, if you and I were going to a ballgame, I’d just eat whatever.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Beats me. Haven’t been to a doctor in years.
Maybe I should think about popping in for a doctor visit.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
When the doctor gives Mike the results, Mike should ask him to run that shit back?
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
The doctor will run the tests, but won’t give him the results until there is a lull in the offseason where they will get more of a response.
by G.Scott on Oct 21, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nermind what cholesteral actually is, I want an x-Cholesterol number.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
you can have three cheat meals a week
:)
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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is there where you eat with someone who isn’t your wife?
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I would too but I have decided to take a stand thanks to the Brian Wilson commercials. I have my priorities straight.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Atta kid. Im tired of being the only person in here who stands up for Taco Bell.
I eat it and think it tastes good
del taco is better
but they don’t have the double decker taco
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that is why they fail
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 21, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
You’re in Arkansas, it’s not like you have a choice.
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It breaks even
when you account for the extra $8.86 you spend on more toilet paper, water in the flushes etc.
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You have to be willing to go there to find out if it is too far or not.
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Plus ordering a burrito and three tacos at chipotle is called the Pablo Sandoval.
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by regfairfield on Oct 21, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I am reminded of the Manuel Special at El Tepeyac
which was three Hollenbecks, IIRC.
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my Dad and his friend ordered two of those one time
not knowing how big it was.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 21, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
The price should have been a big clue, even back in the day.
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and they’ll continue eating it forever just because
by Josie Becker on Oct 21, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
When my dad was fresh out of the marines
He was broke in LA. Back then The Pantry had a special breakfast of 12 eggs, a big slab of ham, like 1/2 pound of potatoes thing. If you could eat two of them, it was free so that’s how he ate for awhile.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
is that before or after it has come out of the body?
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Hilarious list of movie posters from the Villains point of view
http://www.cracked.com/photoplasty_267_26-great-movies-from-villains-point-view_p2/
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I get that all the time too
stupid websense
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 21, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
same here
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 21, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
David Mamet, the guy who won a Pulitzer Prize for writing Glengarry Glen Ross, wrote an opinion piece calling for MMA to be legalized in New York.
I hope he realized not to open his mouth until he knew what the shot was.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
nice to see that his considerable skills are being put to good use for the betterment of all
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
He also wrote a very strange movie about MMA. One of the weirdest last acts ever, and that’s including David Lynch. Red-something it was called. Redbelt?
it was aight. Didn’t exactly make a good case for MMA’s legitimacy.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 21, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
This article reads like David Mamet got an exquisite corpse computer program, entered a bunch of random, Mametesque words, and then let the program write the article based on those words.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 21, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Are there any players in your collective recollections that have had fame and longevity in another city, who have come to the Dodgers and been adopted as Dodgers by the city and fans?
To me, personally, Nomar is a Red Sox. Does Monday get bonus Dodger cred for broadcasting, or do you think he’d be a Dodger regardless.
Double nice. Reggie Smith too.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Baker was not famous in Atlanta I’d argue
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
seven with Atlanta, seven with LA. It’s a dead split, only reason I asked
by Josie Becker on Oct 21, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
8 and 8
but check the games played.
1117 in LA, 628 in Atlanta
He was on deck when Hank Aaron hit 715 though, so there is that.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Right
four full seasons in Atlanta, four cups of coffee from ages 19-22
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a trivia answer in Atlanta, batting leader in LA. Got it.
by Josie Becker on Oct 21, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
nope
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 21, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Takashi Saito sort of counts.
Brett Butler.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
If he counts, then Mark Grudzielanek does too.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Upon further examination, Candiotti is mostly an Indian.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I think I have this
My gut placement has true baseball identity down
I even know I am lying to myself about Piazza, it is close, but hem,maybe a little bit of a Met
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Piazza is the closest you will find with any great player trying to pinpoint between two teams (maybe Dave Winfield. Maybe).
Piazza has a legit claim to be the greatest LA Dodger hitter ever (with some competition from Pedro and Reggie, and hopefully one day Matt), and his best four seasons (quick glance of B-ref WAR) were in LA.
But Piazza played about a third more in New York than in LA, and was still legitimately great there. Plus he did go to his only World Series as a Met. It really is a close call IMO, but the fact that Piazza considers himself a Met is enough to tip the scales, which may have already been tipped that way anyway.
In other news, Chase Carey can burn in hell.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Nolan Ryan has three roughly equal teams.
Randy Johnson.
Mike Mussina? I know he’s not quite as good. (I’d go Oriole, but…)
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Seriously?
I bet he thinks of himself as a Red Sox. He has a radio program there and all that jazz.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
not like, forver forgot
but when his name popped in my head I had forgotten his stint with the red sox
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My immediate answer was Phillies, but fuck he is a tough one.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
When I think Schilling
the first thing I think of(after “why won’t he shut up”) is his WS run with RJ.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Is it safe to say Schilling was great everywhere he went
and is somewhat underrated as he will likely never sniff the hall?
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He will get into the HOF easily, likely first ballot
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
11-2, 2.23 ERA in the postseason. The bloody sock. Writers will vote him in, and soon.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I was thinking the postseason will be a huge boon for his case
Though idk if he will overcome that.
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However
of course the sabre crowd will suggest he should get in (and he should). Maybe he will set the bar for Roy Halladay to get in with such a low win total.
There are more old school types with Schilling gism on their lips than new school types.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed
it’s more effective to spell it with a ‘j’.
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Or, if you're gonna spell it with a g,
Combine it into one word. Schillingism.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 21, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
You think so?
I would have easily thought that wins will hold him back from it. I’m shocked at how well he pitched for so many low win total seasons
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The question with Schilling is one of peak vs. longevity, plus the caveat of winning titles. Quick and dirty:
Phillies: 9 years, 101-78, 1659 IP, 126 ERA+, 34.6 WAR
D-Backs: 4 years, 58-28, 782 IP, 148 ERA+, 20.9 WAR, 1 ring
Red Sox: 4 years, 53-29, 675 IP, 121 ERA+, 14.5 WAR, 2 rings
His peak was in Arizona, but he won more rings in Boston, and he had roughly the same production in Philly as the other two cities combined (plus went to a WS there and was awesome).
A really close call
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Very good pitcher. A man comfortable in his own clean skin.
Not a Hall of Famer.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
he also
Stands up for his wife’s mother.
/notmakingfun
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 21, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I like in that SU2C commercial that Ron Darling has “My Catcher” as the person for whom he is standing.
Gary Carter FTMFW
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah
that part always gets me.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 21, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Must be nice
first year with a team you win the WS, last playing year with a team you win the WS. Then 8 mill to pretend like you might play but never do.
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How about Clemens?
Rings with the Yankees, Series with the Astros, but is probably rememered as the skinny phenom with Boston.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
oooooooo
I wrote Met, but….
Paul O’neil too
Yankees fucking broke the Machine
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I had Yankee and then said, no way, gotta be a Met
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Johnson is an easy D-Back (not to discount his Mariner years, but they are blown away IMO).
I would go Oriole for Mussina too; good call on he and Ryan.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
RJ should go down as a Dback no doubt
What he did in his time with them was otherwordly.
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So, it’s not about playing for us for a year or two and having a big name, it’s about Dodger success (moments or over the years) that let us claim players as ours.
Mostly. A big enough impression in a short time could work (Gibby comes to mind), or a concerted effort to embrace L.A. (Darryl tried, for instance).
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Yes, he is. But he should have been a Dodger.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
he's said
he wished he stayed a Met
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 21, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s also said, “Why yes, I would love more cocaine.”
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
it’s a hell of a drug
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 21, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
ah, its over rated. Too expensive, and its all fun and games until you gotta work the that morning, cant fall asleep, and watch the sun come up…. Maybe if you didnt have to work like Sheen and had porn stars around you it would be alot better.
lol
i just stick with beer thanks.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 21, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Murray was too short and sweet, though he did make at least one lasting impression.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ll never forget that fucking double play.
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Classic Murray.
The man so versatile, he played third base!
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Shawn Green had that 35/35 season in Toronto, but not sure if his level of fame and/or notoriety was super high in Toronto.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
i have debating him in my mind – not sure
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
That's the problem with the question
If somebody had a long, succesful career in another city, they’d never be remembered as a Dodger. Baseball careers simply aren’t that long.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Thome!
jk. Jeff Kent will always be remembered as a Dodger to me. I think i’m in the minority on that one.
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Like I said, minority
His time with the Giants he hated Bonds, which makes him ok in my book.
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Astros
But Kent became Kent as a Giant.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
6 years as a Giant
3 seasons and 2 half seasons as a Met
4 as a Dodger
then everything else just barely
He is a Giant, I think of him as a Dodger.
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There are people who think of Don Sutton as an Angel, that doesn’t make them right.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
That's where you make the mistake
of thinking I said I was right.
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Ring in a box with Florida, single-handedly (slight exaggeration) took San Diego to the series.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Definitely a Dodger in my mind
Though I’d imagine Padre in most older people’s minds. I say that because I only watched him for a season or two or whatever on the Marlins then a bunch as a Dodger.
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He bounced around alot, but had more individual success and team success elsewhere. But it’s close.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
As good a case for the HOF as Curt Schilling. Received less than 5% on his first ballot, drops off entirely. Nobody cries.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 21, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I think according to fWAR, Brown is now arguably the best player not in the Hall of Fame.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
He probably is. Still, I doubt that any future Rich Lederers will be beating down the doors of the veteran’s committee voters to try to get Brown elected.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 21, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Bagwell, but Brown is easily the best pitcher.
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by regfairfield on Oct 21, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I predict Bagwell will get elected after a wait of X years. Maybe with Biggio.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 21, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Joe Jackson could hit. And not just with “Is She Really Going Out With Him.”
But among players who are actually eligible, Albert Belle was at least as good as Jim Rice and he was off the ballot with a quickness.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I guess my question boils down to: Mets fans will forever claim Mike Piazza as a Met, even though he had lasting, momentous success as a Dodger. Are these all players (let’s take Monday for example) who you can talk to a Cubs fan about Rick Monday, call him a Dodger, and the other guy just kind of agrees knowingly. I feel like with Nomar you’d get a lot of pushback from collective Red Sox fans, but a guy like Gibson, even though his major successes were as a Tiger, could be seen as a Dodger without too much grief given. basically, who did we steal?
Gibson is a Tiger
I don’t see him as a Dodger at all
Too short
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
1988 made him a Dodger
in my book, which none of you seem to be reading
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well done
he didn’t even see it coming
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Hm. Any sex scenes?
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 21, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Reggie Smith, for sure. Red Sox fans would definitely claim him too.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I don’t think the Sox would claim him, I think they’d see him as a Dodger
Cards too right?
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
put it this way, Reggie works the Dodgers Adult baseball camps…not the Sox one
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
He played twice as many games as a Sock, was a starter on their 1967 World Series team. No doubt they claim him.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
tell that to him at Dodger Fantasy Camp
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
This exercise isn’t about him, it’s about the fans. Right now, Tim Wallach would consider himself a Dodger, and he’d be lying to himself and also wrong.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I am not sure Reggie was loved in Boston in 1967
but I will ask my Sox fans
Wait, do I have any?
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
ask Ace Ventura
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 21, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
it was like a when fastballs
all of a sudden look like floating balloons
time slowed and I swung
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
or tissues?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 21, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I am pretty sure you are right on this one. This was only, what, eight seasons after the Red Sox became the last MLB team to have a black player. While race relations were clearly an issue most everywhere in ’67, I believe Boston was considered one of the worst, at least of the places not in the south.
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and those idiots Met fans don’t know shit
Mikey doesn’t know shit either
Someone tell him, he is a Dodger
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
He’ll always be a Marlin to me.
But seriously, didn’t he play more games for the Mets than Dodgers? Also went to a World Series with the Mets.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I just realized he was only a Dodger for 2 seasons, for some reason it seemed like more.
by dodgerpreacher on Oct 21, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Jeff Shaw had fame and longevity in another city? Fame?
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Delino DeShields? Have we adopted Delino DeShields as our own?
by dodgerpreacher on Oct 21, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
In the way that we adopted Andruw Jones and Jason Schmidt as our own.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
we had him in his prime years
unfortunately he was better before and after our trade
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
A Brewer, because that would piss him off the most.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
why is that Crazy – him as a Dodger is crazy
I see him as a Red Sox, but could be swayed to maybe do Indians
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I know pointing at rings can be a dumb way to evaluate how good a player is, but I think it’s a reasonable way to evaluate which teams these players are identified with. Manny was great in Cleveland, but 2 rings in a box in Boston and ending the curse? Easy call.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
manny being manny
was a boston thing. He is a red sox to me all the way
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
One of my favorite baseball games on SNES (Techmo) had Manny as an Indian. I will always remember him as an Indian because of how much I played that game.
by that logic, Joe Montana was the greatest Chief ever
by Josie Becker on Oct 21, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
all the SNES football games had Joe Montana as a Chief, and the Sega football game had Joe Montana as a chief on the cover. I used his logic
by Josie Becker on Oct 21, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
He never said Manny was the best Indian ever
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Gonzalez was an Indian. But he wasn’t an Indian.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah true I didnt read it right the 1st time, the part where I would remember his as a Dodger over his former team. But I’ll still remember him always, more then Nomar.
Flip side
Are there any players who started out Dodgers, went to another team and grew a larger identity with that team, enough so that, if asked, you wouldn’t classify them as Dodgers (non-Mike Piazza division)?
pedroooooooooooooooooooooooo
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 21, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Frankly, if Pedro had gone away and sucked, we would have never considered him anything. He was young and impressive, but he wasn’t here much longer than Manny was, so I’m not sure he’s the type of player I’m looking for. Same with konerko. He was never a Dodger, so he can’t be a lost Dodger.
Right
one badass season does not a lifetime Dodger make.
Pedro, Konerko, Santana, et al don’t qualify for this because they are what could have been, and were never actually much with the Dodgers (through no fault of their own)
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Pedro :(
Carlos Santana :P
I might say Adrian Beltre, but I think he’s still rememberd as a Dodger to this point.
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if he keeps trucking
he will be a ranger and I will be angry
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Beltre is a good one. He needs a solid run with one team and not bouncing around. Sticking around with Texas for a while and even just one ring would do it.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
If he rides out his contract and keeps hitting like he did this season he will go down as a Ranger for sure
The ring definitely helps if he can get it.
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can add cody ross to this pyre
or did we get him from somewhere else?
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 21, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Though he was a blue jay first
and drafted as an Oriole (thought that doesn’t matter), would he still count for your specifications?
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The mere mention of Frank Howard is a rec for me
by 68elcamino427 on Oct 21, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I could hear
Phil’s pants rip from here
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Still haven’t forgiven him for that bunt, even if it did work out.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 21, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Eric Young, Tom Goodwin, Roger Cedeno.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Scoscia
nowadays I only associate him with the Angels
because of Kickball
I blame the kickball
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Red Sox
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 21, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Tommy John, successful as a White Sox, stolen and surely a Dodger, stolen by the Yankees.
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If you think purely as a player
what is Joe Torre? Brave or Cardinal?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 21, 2011 1:26 PM PDT reply actions
I've got him as a Giant in my mind because of managing them forever
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not as a player
Torre isn’t a Yankee great
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I am fully prepared for other people to have wrong opinions about this
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
/internet
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 21, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm a youngin
I never saw him play, in fact the biggest and only thing I really know him for is the 30 homeruns with 3 other players in 78.
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I went back and forth
basically flipped a coin between the two years.
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Good think your coin flip wasn't with this guy
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
It came up tails
and rhymed with sails, so I headed back to the ship
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
I am happy to say, I am
too young to be sure
Marty, El Lay, BH, Phil?
hahahahahah
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Torre's a Cardinal
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Cardinal
Because I can remember him being the MVP there, but his Atlanta years are mostly before my memory will go. Heckuva ballplayer though.
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Didn't anyone try with
Claude Osteen or
Tommy John yet? Was the latter then stolen by the Yankees?
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He was surgically replaced
with Fernando
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
So what I’m getting is: either it hasn’t happened all that often that we “lose” a player to another team’s fans, or we remember players we acquired and claim them as our own more easily than we accept that someone else has taken our player from us.
Mike Marshall FTMFW
We can’t remember them because they aren’t Dodgers anymore
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Because until Lasorda got involved, the Dodgers were pretty good at holding onto good players and letting them go only when they were past or about to pass their peak.
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Dave Stewart's Tranny
would be a great band name
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Better than Dave Stewart & the Spiritual Cowboys.
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Bob Welch was much better as a Dodger and a Dodger much longer than Dave Stewart was though.
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Speaking of two-face (posted a pic of him)
The new Batman game is badass. Anyone looking for a new game I’d heavily suggest Arkham City.
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It's released?
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
All of the women in the game
Vicky Vale, Cat woman, Poison Ivy (kind of), Harley Quinn are all super hot and have Lara Croft type bodies, lol.
I can’t wait to get home in a couple hours and beat the crap out of goons.
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“goons”
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
no
but GScott is a master baiter.
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Knock Knock
Who is it?
Goons, hired goons
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
hired goons?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 21, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
One of my favorite follows
@NotGaryBusey
A gift certificate to Olive Garden is the nicest way to tell someone to east shit
Haha
I’d like to give someone directions to east shit.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
It's Keith
and the Chopped Livers
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Go east on Bumblefuck until you die in a horrible, fiery crash.
Then take a left and you’re there.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 21, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
For real? Dam what do you guys like to eat… You guys must be rich then being so picky… I happen to to love Olive Garden. Its not close to authentic italian, but thats seafood portofino boy, i tell you i fuck that shit up son… and all the salad and bread too, ya buddy.
You lost me at “sushi burrito.” I cannot state strongly enough how delicious the sushi burrito is.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 21, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Dude, let’s plan that next weekday lunch for a Friday when that truck is at the Automobile Driving Museum down here.
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I’m game. And this time, I promise not to forget.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 21, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
They are not scheduled there next week. :-( Nor were they there today.
Next Wednesday there is a truck there called Poutine.
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Not sure I want to drive a half hour to eat Poutine.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 21, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn't walk 2 feet
to eat poutine.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
But one foot and you are so fucking there!
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 21, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh I don’t want to go to it, I just didn’t know there was one.
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Holy shit that would be the worst shake ever
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The poutine Shake
Now with more phlegm!
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
by mleadman on Oct 21, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I am willling to join people there for lunch
where for a reasonable price I can eat a lot of salad (extra peperoncinis please), a few “bowls” of inauthentic soup and some of the a bit too bland but coated in enough oil/butter to mask it breadsticks. But for dinner for about the same prices, I’m hitting a neighborhood Italian restaurant. And for lunch, if I’m near home, I should hit San Carlo Deli instead.
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I LOVE San Carlo deli.
Haven’t been there in years, used to go all the time in high school.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
no comment
but unlike Coffee, this kind of nonsense hits close to home
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
ha you cant comment on this Joe because you are Italian, it isnt fair. My friends from Napoli dont like Olive Garden eiher, unless you were talking about the deli. But im not rich, and I ate at one of those Italian places on PCH by the Santa Monica Pier, over 100 bucks for 2 of us, so back to Olive Garden I go.
Have you tried Casa De Pizza near Kennedy HS? Not expensive. Doesn’t suck.
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because I love pictures
and I loved that room as a child
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually, is there more then one? Im going to one to watch football sunday since stupid CBS doesnt have the Raider game on. Its on Saticoy and Fallbrook?
Ha, I drive by there on the way home every day
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Fuck that place. (Long boring story, but they owe my friend money, and I was there when they cheated him.)
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oh… I never been…. what about this place called Jug Jug? ever been there? Sports bar with Korean food I guess.
The one I mentioned
is at Woodley and Mission.
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that is the one with the Sinatra dining room
and Italian Bakery evidently broke the site, but that shit is the deal
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
The Olive Garden’s main benefit is that it is inoffensive. The food is mass-produced, so if you find yourself in Altoona, Pennsylvania, and just need to find nourishment, you can go there and know what you’re gonna get and it’ll be all right. And you can take kids there, and let them make a mess, and it’s no problem because nobody in the restaurant gives a shit.
If you’re in your own home town, or on a date with only adults, etc., I’d go to a place that takes a little more care with the food.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 21, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Yup. I agree.
Olive Garden is the working man’s…fancy Italian restaurant!
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now you got me - I resisted for a while but this has gone too far
when did “working” come to mean “ignorant”?
with a small amount of care you can find better food, at the same price.
Food not shipped in pre-mixed bags
You can like the place, but let’s stop calling it Italian.
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
That last sentence was said in jest. Of course it's not Italian. Just like Chipotle isn't Mexican.
But I have no problem eating at Olive Garden, and certainly won’t begrudge those that do.
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my favorite is the $10 gift certificate to Olive Garden that’s given away as a raffle prie. Hooray! You won soup, salad, and breadsticks by yourself!
by Josie Becker on Oct 21, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Last I looked the looked down upon Olive Garden is a successful franchise so eating alone is usually not an option.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I have eaten alone at an Olive Garden before.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
okay I said by yourself, you said alone. Crazy person
by Josie Becker on Oct 21, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m with Josie on this. Mark this moment.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
That
is one horrible album cover
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Seriously. Horrible serif on the first E
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Need the Dodger staff to soften that.
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Fortunately, I believe that only housed a 7" 45, but blown up to hold a 12" album would definitely be horrendous.
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God bless you and the fine book you intend to write
Are we not men? Must we eat slop?
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I would eat hot shit out of Mario Batali’s fat ass before I ate at Olive Garden!
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
holy fuck, what the hell
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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and should I tell G to cancel the reservations
he made you guys in Burbank for some never ending soup and salad?
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness
All things considered
I’d eat at Olive Garden
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
feeling the weekend creeping up on me
getting antsy
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
The Sizzler of Italian Restaurants
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Upscale Bucca de Beppo
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
which is terrible, but super fun, and not nearly as profane to me as Olive Garden
Buca serves you bad Italian food, which is edible, but bad
Olive Garden makes shit up like Tuscan Chicken Alfredo over Ravioli which is profane
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Buca = I need a place that can seat 25 people for a birthday party and have something that everyone will eat and get us totally hammered
Olive Garden = I am too lazy to search “nearby Italian” on Yelp
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 21, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
there's a place on Van Nuys and Moorpark
called Oliva. I enjoy it very much.
There’s a place near my new place called La Cava that seems legit and has gotten pretty good reviews.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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Maggiano’s =
I need a place that can seat 25 people for a birthday party and have something that everyone will eat and get us totally hammeredbut is a smidge better than Buca.
Maggiano’s is the same parent corp that brings you Macaroni Grill, which is still among the worst names ever for a restaurant.
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This is highly overrating Sizzler.
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Ron Perranowski had great success with both Dodgers and Twins
Phil Regan was a Cub but will be long remembered as the Dodger Vulture of 1966
Phil Richart was a Dodger phenom who went with Howard to the Senators and had a long career
Lee Lacy had a lot of success as a Dodger but won his fame as a Pirate and Oriole
Jimmy Wynn to me is a Dodger even if for only one glorious year
Burt Hooten
Andy Messersmith had his greatest success as a Dodger even though he was good with the Angels he was brilliant for us and sucked once he left
Dave Stewart may have the greatest success once he left the Dodgers then anyone but Howard and Piazza, interesting question, if you take into account they had to have been Dodgers for more then one year, ruling out Pedro
Jerry Ruess and Reggie Smith – Smith and Ruess are considered Dodgers not Not Cardinals, Not Astro’s, Not Red Sox. The Red Sox ran him out of town, the Cardinals gave up Ruess.
Tom Haller is a possibility, I think more people think of him as a Dodger then a Giant
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Reuss was barely a Cardinal, but certainly will be remembered more as a Dodger than as a Pirate.
If you’re going to count Pete Richert, you need to count RJ Reynolds, Jeff(rey) Leonard and Sid Fernandez and countless other guys who barely played for the Dodgers.
Also, Bill Buckner is definitely remembered for his post-Dodger contributions.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Can’t skip Buckner
Heck Garvey, Cey, Lopes all had decent success after they left us, with Garvey’s exploits being the most famous for the Padres.
I’d probably skip Richart, RJ, Sid, and Jeff since none of them were full time before moving on. So you are right.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
HA!
I just realized I wrote Mike Marshall FTMFW about 4 hours ago and the whole time I was thinking “Bill Buckner”
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
For anyone that likes the EPL, I have fallen in love with the podcast on Grantland called “Men in Blazers”
Very good podcast about soccer. Guys are funny and not too serious.
Josie, Im looking at you
After giving podcasts a shot, I just can’t get into it.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
it’s alternative programming for your commute
by Josie Becker on Oct 21, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Regular rotation in the Hummamobile:
This American Life, Planet Money, The Moth, Dan Savage, Radiolab, The Straight Dope, Baseball Prospectus
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 21, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I have 3 or 4 stations on Pandora which I use for the commute.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I listen to Bill simmons with Cousin Sal every Monday and roll.
I like Bill Simmons and a few on Grantland
Just checked my phone: I have episodes of 32 different podcasts on there right now. Probably subscribe to at least 25 of them.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes. But perhaps I need to try some other ones. I only listened to the BS report and found it pretty dumb. Perhaps if there was a true expert in certain sports (instead of someone who just thinks he is) then I’d find it more enjoyable.
I also found Adam Corolla’s “the week in rage” on KROQ on Friday mornings hilarious, so his podcast might be enjoyable.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay. I’ll give it another shot. So what podcasts can you recommend and how can I go about streaming them on my android for the drive home?
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
and not without risk
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
we need a cool name like the Geek Squad
and cars
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
nerd nards
and you all ride electric bikes
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Our motto is
Do I look like your fucking personal assistant?
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Top two recs
Comedy Bang Bang
Up & In: The Baseball Prospectus Podcast
You can get both through iTunes; is that app on your phone? Otherwise, there is an app on Earwolf.com which has Comedy Bang Bang (and all their other shows), and this week’s Baseball Prospectus podcast is online here.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
You should at least charge him a story for all that
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I’ve got a weekly wrap-up column/contest going on! I’m putting my time in!
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
No iTunes app for Android. I’m guessing there’s something comparable….
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
The BP podcast is usually a ridiculously large file so might be difficult to just click and play from your phone, depending on your connection as you are driving.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay, I’m downloading an app called stitcher radio which is supposed to be like a free version of iTunes for android.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I would also recommend the NBA Today podcast on ESPN with Ryen Russillo, but with the lockout he hasn’t had an episode since late June.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes. It should tell you how much I enjoy his work that I continue to listen despite this atrocity :)
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I was going to also rec Doug Loves Movies, but then you don’t watch many movies. But I like it for the comedy in general, and Doug Benson. Three guests usually each week, mostly from the comedy world.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
He had Blake Griffin on this week (not that it was an especially illuminating interview or anything)
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d sworn to hate Grantland though, and everyone keeps telling me it’s good good stuff. #conflicted
by Josie Becker on Oct 21, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Very well.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 21, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Grantland is really not that good. I still like Jonah Keri, but everybody else seems like they’re running out of things to write about. The piece this week lecturing fans not to refer to their favorite team as “we” was terrible.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Man screw that
I invest my time and emotion, I’ll call refer to the Dodgers and I and we nearly every time.
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YES! Juninho dipped one in from about 40 yards out, so the Galaxy get to go through to the knockout stage of Champions League in February
by Josie Becker on Oct 21, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
MLS Cup, resign David Beckham for one more year, win Champions League. Anything after that is just bonus points
by Josie Becker on Oct 21, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah I dont see every game but seems like Galaxy have a great season every year but mostly come up short… Hopefully not this year…. I still remember the 1st MLS cup I think it was when Galaxy blew like a 3-0 lead was it? maybe not. Atleast they have won a few, but they should have most MLS Cups in MLS.
yeah Galaxy kept coming up short against DC every year. In 25 years, those first six seasons will be thrown out of the record books.
by Josie Becker on Oct 21, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
WTF With Marc Maron
Easily the best comedy podcast going. How Maron gets comedians to open up is amazing. If you’re interested, start with the Louie C.K. interview. Never thought I’d ever hear Louie get so emotional about his daughter’s birth.
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that is an awesoke story written in the meanest of tones
by Josie Becker on Oct 21, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
He's $125000 ahead already
He should be able to enjoy the series, win or lose
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Because of your title I envisioned you with a harpoon
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Funny you should mention that, working my way through Moby Dick now
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
First time
or repeat?
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Great book
a few chapters are tough slogs.
I’m into the 4th Game of Thrones book. Good story, not very good writer
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
totally
but fun, fun stories and great turns
people you don’t expect to die, whack, dead
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
game of thrones, not MD
the book I was telling BH I read a few years ago and was blown away how great it is was War and Peace
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Before I die
I want to get all the way through Don Quixote
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
As a young-un I spent most of my time reading or playing ball. The older I get the less interest I have in reading which I expected to be the opposite.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I was like that
until I got the ipad. Now I’m a readaholic again
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Best book I read this year: Possession by AS Byatt.
Unless it was: True Grit by Charles Portis.
Favorite book: Fifth Business by Robertson Davies.
Book I like to recommend to people because it is awesome: The Secret History by Donna Tartt.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 21, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I just finished a Frank Norris jag
McTeague
The Octupus
The Pit
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Best book I read this year: The Tigers Wife by Téa Obreht
Unless it was: Never Let Me Go by Kazuo Ishiguro
Favorite Book: Mrs. Dalloway by Virginia Woolf
Book I like to recommend to people because it is awesome: The Basic Eight by Daniel Handler
by Josie Becker on Oct 21, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
create a book fanpost or this will be dust in a few hours
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I’m on it.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 21, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Call it books to read while filling one’s pantry
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Or
Books to read when you find yourself alone at Olive Garden
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
if I’ve made “all by myself” stick in someone’s brain and drive them insane for a few hours I’ll consider it a good days work.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
When I was young, I never needed anyone,
and making love was just for fun.
Those days are done.
This from the same guy who wrote those great power pop songs for the Raspberries and even wrote “That’s Rock and Roll” for himself that Shaun Cassidy covered for a pop hit.
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Include mine, I’m gonna lay down and read
by Josie Becker on Oct 21, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I want a pair of rollerskates with a skate key now. Thanks a lot David!
by Josie Becker on Oct 21, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
“I got a brand new pair of rollerskates, you’ve got a brand new key”
by Josie Becker on Oct 21, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 21, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Loved The Tiger’s Wife and Never Let Me Go
Both rocked!
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I wanna read The Art of Fielding. Hear it’s great.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 21, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
that’s gonna be my next fiction read. Looking forward to it
by Josie Becker on Oct 21, 2011 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Summary — See the ball, catch the ball.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
It’s incredibly hard.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Oct 21, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Believe he’s joking.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 21, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
My father read this in college. In Spanish.
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Showoff
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Dad is an old, white, National Review reading, retired CPA. People tend not to expect him to speak Spanish well.
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Moby Dick: surprisingly badass and surprisingly funny.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 21, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
both – but meaty
no moving fast through this one, every sentence takes all of your brain
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 21, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
You reminded me of Captain Ahab when you defended your right to never bunt.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
After singing one too many kid’s songs to Spawn, I suggested this:
Moby, beluga in the deep blue sea
From hell’s heart I stab at thee
I got Ishmael and I got Queequeg
All because you took my leg
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 21, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
My parents went to Sea World
and all I got was this lousy peg leg.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Did I tell you about Folly’s Halloween costume?
I am going as Edgar Allan Poe and she will be the raven.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Oct 21, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Bride had to be a witch. It’s a long story, but if you care:
basically, Spawn was insisting she was gonna be a princess, a princess, a princess. Everything is princess these days. So we were like, ugh. Then she said, “You know, I think I want to be a witch for Halloween.” Bride said, “Great! Let’s go get your costume TODAY!” and then Spawn said, “And you’re gonna be a witch, too, right?”
Bride paused and said, “Yes. Yes I am.”
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Oct 21, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
That is awesome
I just found out my company is having a halloween party next Friday at the Magic Castle
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
that is perfect.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 21, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Excellent
I once attended a Halloween party at a mortuary, in the manager’s apartment, which was the top part of the building.
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Have you gotten to the chapter on how to coil a rope?
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Imagine if Xeifrank had bet on the Rays for both the AL champs and the WS champs that one year.
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or if he just bet ~$1,250 on the Phillies to win the 2008 World Series, he would have guaranteed himself ~$1,750.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Especially since I bet that guy woke up in the morning with a splitting hangover, looked in his pockets, found the tickets, and said, “Fuck, what did I do?”
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Oct 21, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I've done this a hundred times
except for the winning ticket part
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Speaking of Konerko
He is a Hall of Famer.
An Arizona Fall League HOFer, that is. Will be inducted tomorrow.
so I was at a meeting today for my new job, talking about social media
and the consultant asks if I have a twitter. I tell him I do. He asks what I mostly tweet about. I pause and say, “Baseball…” and he goes, “Oh really? What team do you like?”
Maddz: The Dodgers.
Consultant (who, heretofore, has been quite professional: OH FUCK YEAH, MOTHERFUCKER! high five Jamie’s gone, one McCourt to go!
Maddz: Oh, yeah, haha…um, I am glad Kershaw is doing we —
Consultant: I read True Blue LA every day, it’s on my RSS feed.
Maddz: Hahahahaha
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness
by Maddz on Oct 21, 2011 4:10 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
This is hilarious
and also my worst nightmare
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
THEY CAN'T KNOW HOW MUCH I'M ON HERE DURING WORK HOURS
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Oh man, this is the comment of the day.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Oct 21, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
G was supposed to take me out on a date, but couldn’t think of any options. He just told me to get dressed. I’m scared.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness
“Dress for a restaurant that doesn’t give a shit about you.”
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Oct 21, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I dunno, my hoodie says I’m ready for anything
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness
Especially sushi burrito.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Oct 21, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Do any of y’all use your work email as your personal email? I’ve got some family members like that, always feel strange about it.
I guess it’d be like giving out your work phone #, back in the day.
I did, until I got laid off from my first job and lost all of that communication and had to give everyone my new contact info.
Now, I’m like, “It’s humma at gmail, yo.”
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Oct 21, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve got a friendalover who works for the state department, so we’ll have email threads that bounce back and forth between work and personal so we can talk politics and other some such
by Josie Becker on Oct 21, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
No way I keep my personal and work email seperate…. good thing too I couldnt imagine getting all the ads I get on my personal email on my work email.
My friends and family
can’t seem to figure out which is which, so I get email all over the place
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Never.
Unless I’m emailing something to myself, such as a homework assignment.
Bringing you the best punk, post-punk, and noise rock from the US/UK and beyond!
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Nope.
And here’s a little secret, the e-mail for me that’s at the bottom of this page, it’s not my primary personal e-mail addr either.
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Sooo
Where did everyone go for that 49 min layoff between comments? Ya’ll went to that book section didnt you?
Everyone's planning a trip to the furthest Olive Garden.
Bringing you the best punk, post-punk, and noise rock from the US/UK and beyond!
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Next Stop: Hesperia!
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness
I am trying to figure this out
I get the date part but is he not changing from what he wore to work, if that is the case, i would assume your outfit would just have to be in the similar style.
She was just making a “GScott’s making me go to Olive Garden” joke. In reality, we’re going to try out the sushi place that’s 200 feet from our apartment.
Peruvian food
Sushi, the guy is moving into a whole new food experience. Next an egg dish that uses yolks.
Maddz definitely got me into sushi a few months ago, and I like egg yolks, just not runny egg yolk texture.
I am fairly sure
that my father ate an egg and some breakfast meat nearly every working day of his life (over 50 years)
As a follower of Maddz twitter account
she tweets about her cat(s), class/school, random thoughts and baseball
I used to go to Souplantation at least once every couple of months back in the 90s
because I lived near one in those days.
I liked the Chicken Noodle Soup, the black bean chili and the prepared salads. I believe I have been to that place once in the last 7-8 years.
as a kid
I use to load up on the chicken noodle, the chili, those weird “pizza” things, and then a mixture of olives, cold pees, cold noodles and croutons.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
cold pees
I thought about posting some line here, but I didn’t want to gross out HJ with another bodily fluid thing.
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http://www.truebluela.com/2011/10/21/2506002/happy-birthday-bill-russell
Comes with confirmation of Broken Arrow, Oklahoma.
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