After Lowest Attendance In 11 Years, Dodgers Lower Season Ticket Prices
by Eric Stephen on Oct 24, 2011 10:23 AM PDT
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After a 17.6% drop in paid attendance from 2010 to 2011, dropping below three million fans at Dodger Stadium for the first time since 2000, the Dodgers have dropped season ticket prices for 2012. According to the Dodgers the prices will be lower next year than this year in 96% of seats at Dodger Stadium. In many levels, the season ticket prices are the lowest in several years:
- Top Deck is $5, the lowest in two decades
- Reserved level has seats at $6, the lowest since 1987
- Preferred Loge Box has seats at $10, the lowest since 1995
- Preferred Field Box has seats at $16, the lowest since 2001
The Dodgers will also allow season ticket holders early entrance to the stadium, one hour before the general public, to watch Dodgers batting practice. More details here.
With many fans still fed up with McCourt, the Dodgers had to do something to keep their core fans happy. As noted by Bill Shaikin of the Los Angeles Times, Dodgers season ticket sales dropped from 27,000 in 2010 to 17,000 in 2011. In addition, the Dodgers offered several individual game deals later in 2011 that seemed to undercut season ticket holders.
The question is, will this be enough to lure season ticket holders back to Dodger Stadium? While the Dodgers suffered a drop in paid attendance in 2011, the actual people coming to games was far less, with many season ticket holders simply not showing up to games.
On This Date
On this date 30 years ago, the Dodgers trailed the New York Yankees in the World Series two games to one heading into Game 4 at Dodger Stadium. Bob Welch got the start for the Dodgers, but failed to retire any of the four batters he faced, allowing three hits and a walk. With four batters faced and no outs recorded, Welch matched Harry Taylor's Game 4 of the 1947 World Series as the shortest start by a Dodger in the postseason.
The Dodgers trailed 4-0 in the middle of the third inning, but chipped away and pulled to within 4-3 in the fifth inning. The Yankees scored two off Tom Niedenfuer in the top of the sixth inning to go up 6-3, but Jay Johnstone hit a two-run home run in the bottom of the inning, and Davey Lopes followed with a fly ball to right field that Reggie Jackson lost in the sun. Lopes ended up on second base, then stole third, and scored the equalizer on a sacrifice fly by Bill Russell.
The Dodgers rallied for two more in the bottom of the seventh inning, taking their first lead of the game. The Dodgers held on to win 8-7 to even the series, which they would eventually win in six game. Both runs in that seventh inning of Game 4 were charged to relief pitcher George Frazier, who pitched in three games during the 1981 World Series and took the loss in all three games, allowing seven runs while recording 11 outs.
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In other news of potential future Dodgers, catcher Gorman Erickson spoke with MiLB.com about his minor league experience and time in the Arizona Fall League, and Jon Weisman at Dodger Thoughts laid out the case for the Dodgers signing free agent Prince Fielder this offseason.
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Those prices are pretty incredible
I went to a ton of games in 2002 and 2003 and the reserve was $10 (bleachers were $6.) I can’t believe the reserve is set to be cheaper now than it was then.
For a brief moment in time, this comment — “it’s a nice gesture by the Dodgers” — was followed directly by a reminder that the Dodgers might trade Kemp this offseason.
It’s too pessimistic and cynical, even for me, to suggest that the decision to trade Kemp has already been made, and the Dodgers — knowing that this will result in the fan revolt reaching even greater heights — have taken the proactive step of lowering ticket prices. No, I don’t think that’s what is happening here, and what’s more, I don’t think Kemp will be traded in the offseason (though, if the Dodgers are out of it at the deadline and can’t make a deal, who knows).
No, I will not make that suggestion. But the Dodgers could surprise me by finding a way to sink ever lower in the eyes of fans.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
tension knot in back forming as I read
must purge the thought
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
this is an if – then statement for me. If the Dodgers trade Matt Kemp, then I will hurl something toward the wall and yell out KHAAAAAAAAAN
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
I will accept the inevitable and move on hoping that the J-Hey-Kid can provide a light at the end of the tunnel.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Jason Heyward.
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by regfairfield on Oct 24, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
I must have missed this thread while soccer was happening
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Really the only non-wall throwing option for trading Kemp.
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by regfairfield on Oct 24, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
That works too, but I don’t like Dee Gordon.
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by regfairfield on Oct 24, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
bah, maybe worth Andre but not Kemp
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
but this is for season ticket holders
I bought mini plan top deck tickets a couple years ago and the price was $7.. so its a decrease but not substantial.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 24, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
if you want to sit in the front row of the top deck its a price INCREASE.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 24, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
It does say above that prices are going down in 96% of seats. That leaves 4% that are staying the same or going up.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
On the other hand if you want to sit in the front row of the top deck you aren’t known for your good decisions.
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by regfairfield on Oct 24, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Throwing up on people below you is always a good decision
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I saw Joe Ferguson’s homer against the Astro’s in the front row of the top deck
I jumped up and down so much I am surprised I did not die
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m surprised you had the leg room to jump.
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by regfairfield on Oct 24, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Not seeing it
This Fangraph chat is getting annoying. It is turning into a who can (my team) get for Matt Kemp in a trade ever since Dan Sz mentioned that the Dodgers might trade Kemp this season.
Forgot to add
There will be more than 35,000 seats available for $20 or less on a season ticket basis, per the Dodgers.
9-9-9 ?
$9 parking.
$9 ticket
$9 beer.
by Xeifrank on Oct 24, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Put it in the Reserve somewhere, yeah? People would totally do that.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
make it
9-9-9-Nein
all of the above, but it doesn’t include the hotdogs
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Game Four 1981
might be most exciting Dodger World Series game ever played at the Ravine for beginning to end. Didn’t have the drama of Game One 1988, but it had just about everything else.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Preferred Loge Box has seats at $10, the lowest since 1995
I’m going to have to look into this one.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
He did for years, didn’t he?
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Sat there from 2004 – 2009, loved my seats.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Also, if they have these prices and keep the buy-two-get-two-free deal in the Loge, that is a great price. I wonder if they’re keeping buy-two-get-two-free….
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
play your hand right and you could wind up having the Dodgers pay you to come out
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s good, because college edumacations are expensive.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
because if they suck again, you can get up and sit in cougarville
and if they are good, you are still in the loge
hell, I never buy tickets because I never know when I am in town, and summer is busy for me, but I am tempted
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
This is great news
but its just a ploy to keep attendance up for window dressing purposes. If Frank gets his TV deal, the tickets sales revenue becomes peanuts in comparison
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
Are you sure you are an accountant?
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
thanks
also, not really “a ploy” unless there is some hidden way the ticket prices increase
right?
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Lot of thought had to go into this. It is one thing to methodically raise the price per year as Frank has done since 2004, but scaling them back means he would need to make a big jump again to get back to 2011 levels and fans had big jumps. Jerry Buss gets away with $5 per year increases but at the end of the day the ticket has moved from $70 to $120 since he moved to Staples.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
that is what I am saying
this is a pretty significant mea culpa / times are tough move
I am shocked, really
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Lakers have also had a great team or two in that time. Fans will come out to support a winner, and when fans come out, ticket prices can go up. It’s a different case.
When I started on the buy-two-get-two-free plan in 2004, the total bill for four seats and parking included, per game, was less than $38. That was a bargain at the time. If they keep the buy-two-get-two-free plan, the total bill, including parking ($15) per game will be about $45 in 2012.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
We both started the 2 + 2 at the same time and it was a great deal. By the time I quit it was no longer a great deal. Plus with the enormous cost of the postseason tickets it was hard to even rationalize buying those and that has always been one of the main reasons to get season tickets so you could buy your own seats for postseason games.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah im sure.
not sure of the exact figures, but isnt per year revenue from a proposed tv deal >>> ticket revenue?
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
Possibly but “peanuts” means an insignificant amount compared to TV revenue.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Ok, i admit, peanuts was an exaggertion
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
Drink ‘em both together, then you’ll feel better.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Let me get this straight
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
In my line of work Lawyers are allowed exaggeration, Accountants are not, if I had not known your job skills, I’d have said nothing.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I wasn't sure of the exact figures... can't be precise without them :-)
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
why are lawyers allowed exaggeration?!?
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
Because lawyers use geometry and geometry is all either true or not true. Exaggeration is window dressing to confuse the jury about the scope of the correctness or incorrectness.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Exaggeration is window dressing to confuse the jury about the scope of the correctness or incorrectness.
Excellent, but isn’t it about 98% of lawyers will have never addressed a jury and never will.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think it’s quite that high, but exaggeration can also confuse inferior legal minds (like opposing lawyers, paralegals and even some judges). Also, in law school, one is taught to write according to a sweeping standard of hyperbole.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
3 million seats at an average of say $25 per seat is $75 million per year.
The proposed deal with Fox was ~$1.6 billion over 13 years, roughly $125 million per year.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 24, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
brazil nuts!
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
Pistachio nuts.
Red pistachio nuts.
All-natural white pistachio nuts.
Macadamia nuts. That’s the one that used to send my mama crazy. She’d say, “Will you stop namin’ all the nuts?!?!”
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Best in Show FTW
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Teammarketing.com had the Dodgers average price in 2011 at $30.59. (link is a PDF file). From the file:
Average verage ticket pr price ice represents a weighted average of season ticket prices for general seating categories, determined by factoring the tickets in each price range as a percentage of the total number of seats in each venue.
Premium seats are not included. So it’s safe to say the minimum in ticket revenue is about $90 million at the floor. Wouldn’t shock me if the numbers are close to proposed TV deal numbers when premium seats are factored in.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 24, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
it is good news
still doesn’t mean i don’t wank frank gone yesterday and don’t really feel like paying money that goes into his pocket.
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
said the person who bought expensive field level seats last year
don’t really feel like paying money that goes into his pocket.
My dad paid for those, I didn't
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
and he "paid" for those by bartering his tax services....
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
So, your dad got free tickets and you made money by selling them for less than face value?
Maybe you are a corporate accountant after all.
My dad is a really, really nice dad :-)
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
No, he did taxes for a client and in return received a share of season tickets in lieu of payment, a barter
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
I for one
refuse to look this gift horse, no matter the motive, in the mouth
they sucked, the economy was and remains tough, the visits were down which led to lower revenues outside of tickets, so they have lowered prices to get people to come back
seems like a rather common business tactic to me
Yeah but sports teams are usually only “run like businesses” when you can use that to justify why your team sucks. Frank has done a lot of shitty things but this is a genuinely good thing.
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by regfairfield on Oct 24, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah – I wasn’t going that way
I was more going that this is a common tactic to win back customers. Some kind of rollback, rebate, or other value, to retry a product you used to love but decided is not enough value for money anymore
I find the move unexpected, which is high praise from me, I always expect the stupid, short, and petty view from the Dodgers
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Of course, it’s just that in sports the common tactic to dwindling attendance is to call the fans shitty then demand more revenue sharing money. I wouldn’t expect this from any team.
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by regfairfield on Oct 24, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
they should have offered a series of complicated mail in rebates. No one ever sends those things in.
California law is all over that shit now
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Supply remained the same and demand decreased. Price has to give.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Your only other option is maintaining price, but doing something to increase demand, say, by signing a name free agent early in the offseason and marketing the shit out of them.
Yup, but then you have to hope that the unhappiness from the fan base over the owner was a temporary problem and can be resolved with bribing them with talent.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Maybe, but 10,000 season tickets holders left from 2010 to 2011 and thousands more plan on leaving. I suspect a large % of the 10,000 found they could get by with their lifes just fine not having season tickets. A certain % will be enticed back by the rollback in prices but I’ll be surprised if they can get that figure back above 18,000 headed into 2012.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't really believe
most people will have missed last year and suddenly decided they don’t like baseball and don’t want it in their lives anymore. You seem to believe something close to the opposite of that though.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Didn’t say they suddenly stopped liking baseball, but for a family to go to a game many things have to happen. Not having to do those things and simply watch the game on TV might be the preferred option.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
That is an option. Yet, the Dodgers lowered their prices, so…
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
On the one hand, this seems like a good deal and the right move by the Dodgers.
On the other hand, if you were to try distil them them down to their essences like Jack Skellington trying to explain Christmas, a Disneyland Season pass would probably have a great joy to dollars ratio than a 2012 Dodgers season ticket
See, I’m more thinking if I buy tickets at $10 each and the team is good, I can sell them for $20 each from June through October, have dibs on playoff tickets, and make some money.
there was a piece a few years ago who paid for their season tickets by selling the premium games
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
oh whoops, Yankees in New Yankee Stadium….you can actually see the part of the sentence where my brain shorted out
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Not really
You can sell the one or two big regular season games against maybe Miami and Boston but overall, I would say getting back what you paid is the main goal (once you start dealing with tickets over $100)
by bhsportsguy on Oct 24, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
It was much easier when tickets were < $100. Now it is hard to sell the first two playoff series because everyone is saving their nuts for series three and four.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
a little early on a Monday to be dropping Acid Jojo
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
says the dude living in Lancaster. if I had to drive there from Lancaster based solely on reputation alone it’d be far below my expectations too.
I suspect he’s been and found it sucks balls. Face it, many folk simply find the Disneyland experience to be bereft of a good time.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I went to North Hollywood High and Burbank High, I was born in Burbank. I had a Disneyland pass as a teen.
by NotJoeTorre on Oct 24, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
If Disneyland was $20 would you go and have a good time?
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
There is literally nothing there that excites me.. once they took out the submarine, they lost me for life
by NotJoeTorre on Oct 24, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s back, isn’t it? Rebranded for Finding Nemo?
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
thats awesome if true. It was such a simple ride but goddamn was it great
by NotJoeTorre on Oct 24, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
it’s a 20minute wait in the non-summer, 45 in summer because people want to get out of the sun for 6 minutes.
I have not yet taken the kids to Disneyland. Part of the reason is price. I can afford it, in a it’s-not-going-to-break-me way, but if I’m going to spend that kind of money I want to be sure the kids will enjoy it. Folly will have to be over two years old before I know that’s gonna happen.
If I could do the whole day (admission for four + parking + food) for, say, $150 total, I would say fuck it and do it. $400? I’ll wait.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Night for four at Corbin Bowl seems like a possibility.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 24, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh yeah, I can see the Corbin Bowl karaoke crowd going nuts for Spawn singing “I’ve Been Working on the Railroad,” except changing various words to be scatological. “I’ve been working on a poopie! HA HA HA HA HA HA Someone’s in the kitchen with poopie! HA HA HA HA HA”
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
She’s her father’s daughter.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m waiting for special needs Karaoke before I make my appearance.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
I would so have followed that if I’d only known.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, hard to know whom you will follow when there is more than an hour in between putting in your song and actually getting up there.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 24, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d rec this, but Corbin had some pretty talented people singing, and only 5 of them were from TBLA.
Except TBLA had six singers (Eric, David, Craig, Madeleine, Bobby, and me).
I’d ask who the untalented singer was, but there isn’t any need to ask that question.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Now let me get this straight
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I was embarrassed, but then I put the lime in the coconut and then I felt better.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess you weren’t just what he needed.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
ha ha
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I was just trying to find the line between people who liked Disneyland, those who liked Disneyland but felt it was pricey, and those who actually think Disneyland sucks balls and represents everything that is wrong with the human condition in the United States.
So far everyone only seems to fall into the first two groups:)
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Madeleine is in group 3. Finds people who love, LOVE disneyland and need to buy all the Disneyland memorabilia to be a big American issue.
when I went with my cousin, one of our purposes was obtaining a demitasse mug with Donald’s face on it, made special for halloween. I was completely for this.
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice, I’m somewhat in group three. It had it’s purpose when I was 10. What I do find strange is that some of the most intelligent people I know are Disneyland addicts but ………..
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
The thing is
Disney has so many iconic franchises, its hard not to find something thats just amazing everytime you go. I love my Tigger mug.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I’m a Donald fan, and think mickey mouse coasters are fun and nice conversation starters, not something to be dismissed as consumerism, but I do see the other point of view.
I think there’s a difference between ad fueled consumerism, which one could argue is a problem since it creates an itch then gives you the solution
and then there’s licensing characters you created. souvenirs are nothing new, and the more options, the more likely someone will find something they like.
I’m glad that the Disney store isn’t just a bunch of snow globe and motion lamps.
I’m all over the place
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
how does it feel to chug 3 five hour energies all in a gulp?
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
two cups of coffee, but I’ll calm down in a minute and won’t have a headache in two hours
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
3?
good gravy
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 24, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
even if it was free, I have a hard time imagining you’d get me there even once per year
money is not the reason I do not go
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
The third group is incorrect.
Costco is what sucks balls and represents everything that is wrong with the human condition in the United States.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
People blame walmart, but I think they just have brilliant distribution techniques that other companies shoud have thought of a long long time ago.
Brilliant distribution techniques:
“Yo, Vietnam, how’s it going.”
“Well, OK, now.”
“Great, great. Listen, we need a billion tube socks. Can you make them for a total of fifty cents?”
“Fifty cents? Sure, if I don’t pay my workers anything and don’t eat myself.”
“Great, great. I’ll expect the socks on Tuesday.”
CUT TO: Wednesday
“Great news, Vietnam! Americans love the socks! We need some more! But listen, now we’re only going to pay you a quarter. You down for that? Cause if not, there’s always Cambodia. Or Haiti. Remember Haiti?”
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I think he was referring more to the spoke and wheel model of distribution
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
up here
people boycott Costco and go to Wal-Mart because of the made in america BS.
by NotJoeTorre on Oct 24, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
except Wal-Mart does the same thing to their American suppliers, and it’s bullshit
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Costco is in a lot of ways
the opposite of wal mart in a good way. All hail Costco(until they take away my 1.50 hot dogs)
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and then kills local stores and local economy
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
not totally true – they are ruthless negotiators in a way that harms everyone but walmart shareholders
but too nuanced to get into here
I am impressed, but not a fan
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Daily News is running stories once a week about manufacturing companies still in Los Angeles. Yesterday the story was a about a jean company. Having been in the garment business 30 years ago I was surprised to find that it was still a thriving business. Then again their jeans sell for $150 so that is that.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
i scoffed at these jeans until someone
forced me to wear some. I swear they are so comfortable I could never go back to regular jeans. might as well take HDTV away from me too.
Thing my cousin said yesterday
“I don’t get the whole HDTV thing. Is the picture really that much better?”
Me: “Yes. You are stupid.”
by Eric Stephen on Oct 24, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
people who claim they can't tell the difference...
/snaps
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Things that have been said before
“Talking pictures, that’ll never catch on”
“Why would someone want to watch movies in color? Ruins the art.”
“No one will watch a sporting event a ten in the morning”
“What do I need a DVD for, I’ve got VHS”
“Cable TV. Like that’ll last”
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
"What do I need a DVD for, I’ve got VHS"
This simply isn’t true. VHS always sucked. The picture was never good and then the tape would wear out. DVD was always a superior technology, easier to use.
I knew a guy who said “The only thing worse than VHS is radio.”
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Beta baby, Beta
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
My dad had a beta. Didn’t let it go until he couldn’t rent a movie anymore.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
"We can't put sports on Television"
“no one will come to the games!”
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 24, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
1. HDTV has a much better picture than regular TV.
2. Ten years ago, I bought a perfectly good TV for $200. It served me fine. Two years ago, I bought an HDTV for $800+. It’s fine, too, and I appreciate the wall mount-takes-up-less-room thing, but that is a lot more money for something I’m not sure I needed.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
yes. My TV is about 8 years old and a dog
upgrading soon, but boy does it pain me
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
when you buy them once a decade….it means that I have to live with it for a decade
I think I go bigger
but fuck that 3d noise
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Every parent has already experienced “Smell-o-Vision”.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Eric Karros says that no question the quality is better, but Tim Tebow says do you really need it? Tim is usually right from what I gather, especially in the fourth quarter in Miami.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
how much biggers was the hdtv then the perfectly good tv
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Hard to say. The perfectly good TV was 25" but 1.33-to-1. The new TV is 40" but widescreen. It’s certainly bigger but not huge.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Evidently people are perfectly fine watching TV/Movies/Video on smartphones. Yet want 55 inch TV’s at home.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Sort of.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
viewing distance is important
how big is your computer monitor?
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buy American means buying less shit
but really, how much shit do we need? I have more shoes than my father probably had in his life and every year I buy more shoes because I see them there and I can
if all shoes were 500 bucks, I would buy less, take care of them better, wear them longer
this is not a bad thing
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
It would also bring back the shoe shine person, which put a huge dent in our culture when they left us.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I often get my shoes shined – I playfully call it “The last pleasure left in our culture for the working man”
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
seriously, do you know what they have in India
TV repairmen
When did a TV become something we turn over every 3 years because making them is so fucking cheap?
the disposable nature of our society, even as I play within it, makes me sick and confused
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah but it breaks the whole economic system
when TVs become so cheap that fixing them is not cost effective…..
oh, fuck it
more wine please
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
when TVs become so cheap that fixing them is not cost effective…..
That’s right. Plus, if you make something to break, you always need new shit.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
cellphones
kill me. my wifes 2 year old blackberry literally died. like, you saw the specter of it’s physical form float from out of it, playing a harp and with little angel wings.
my old cellphone just stopped working after a year and a half. its better for them that way.
The last few times I went I got in for free and I got to cut through all the lines. I had a great time. No clue how much I’d enjoy it paying full price and having to sit in long lines.
Used to be
you could get disabled access just by showing them a prescriptino for ritalin. Those where the days.
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they eliminated most of it
when they added fast passes
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as long as they are having fun, its all good
by NotJoeTorre on Oct 24, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
as he/she should. I love taking a child their for the first time, quite magical.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Mine’s gone several times, including at <2. We had lots of fun. Granted, we had a benefactor, taking the price of admission out of the equation, but we had a good time and wonderful pictures for a bar mitzvah montage or whatnot someday.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
No doubt driving 2+ hours didn’t help either. We had to stay in a hotel if we were coming from Palmdale. fuck that noise
by NotJoeTorre on Oct 24, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Have you seen how much a season pass costs?
its insane? I want one so bad but I can’t pay those prices right now :(
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I've had a season pass to d-land for like 1/3 of my life
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wish they would bring back the get in for free on your bday thing
AND STOP RAISING THE PRICES. Their worse then the lakers when it comes to price hikes. 80 bucks now for one day :-x
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no lie, the statement released by disney was “our market research suggests people find us to be a very good value for your entertainment dollar, so we’ve raised our prices to more adequately compete with our competition”. Something of that nature.
knott’s is like $40 for a year pass, but that place is like Disneyland’s left leg
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
the difference of being in the 60s
to now having an 8 in front of the price means I will NEVER buy a one day pass. Maybe they want to drive everyone to annual passes
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yup
my cousin bought me a park hoppper cause I hadn’t been in eight years, didn’t realize until we left I could have applied the price of that ticket toward an annual pass. Oh well.
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
with an annual pass, you can go for like three hours here and there, do one ride, eat at a cool restaurant go home. It’s like having an adult life, but with more fun.
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s like having an adult life, but with more fun.
Seems like it is more like staying a child and embracing the warm memories of youth, but someday you all gotta grow up.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
now I’m thinking about a margarita + Goofy’s Flight School combo. Bad news : )
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
“now Suzie will be spun until she vomits, and her mom is wearing a helmet, with a cup attached at the top. There’s a line on this cup….”
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Walt Disney didn’t believe you had to, neither did Nat King Cole
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Walt Disney was a cold hearted nazi who sold you that bill of goods because it buttered his bread*
Nat King Cole who was a sentimental crooner who sold emotional rescue to sad sack losers who could not pick themselves up*
*full disclosure, I know none of these things to be true
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nat King Cole who was a sentimental crooner who sold emotional rescue to sad sack losers who could not pick themselves up*
There was money to be made. Nat King Cole’s early stuff is awesome. Then he realized he could get rich by going smooth, and he went smooth and got rich. I would have done the same thing.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
somewhere nuts are roasting
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
me three!
but hey, I am sending American jobs overseas to make American healthcare more affordable
not sure if I am good or evil, so I settle for employed
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
yes
I get the once every 2 to 5 year visit on a whim
but once you have been to the Tiki room, you have been to the Tiki room
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Having a season pass really changes the landscape
you don’t have to go there for 10 hours and scramble to do everything in those 10 hours to get your money worth. You can just pop in on a wednsday night and enjoy the ambiance, hit up a few rides, all without the pressure.
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under pressure….doom doom doom do do doom doom
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
i guess if you live in Anaheim
an hours drive from Hollywood
and even like that, I just don’t like the Mouse that much
nice place to visit, but would not want to live in Disney land
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
I would have go with Universal Studios, but that place does not hold as many memories for me
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
that place really sucks
hot
lines
kids (not yours or your families)
shitty food
fuck that
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Shitty rides and not enough of them. Arrive when it opens, leave at lunch.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
this exactly
i grew up in Santa Barbara. it was like 3 hours just to GET to disneyland. It was always so stressful, having to get on all the rides because it was another 3 hour car ride in MAYBE a year or two until I could come back….
I went with my wife a couple years ago on her birthday, got a pass, and it was so much more relaxed. my wife loves disneyland, i enjoy it. but being around someone who really loves it, it makes it much more enjoyable for me.
i went once when i was still in college, with some dudes and ladies and we just messed around. but going with someone who LOVES it, its a bit different. especially if you love them.
/cheeseball
also, i wrote a really weird story about Disneyland Gradnite.
You know who loves D-land?
fat people. Like, really fat people.
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those are just Americans visiting California from other states
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
oh, the biggies are everywhere
I am not a slim man, I am not a fit man, but I am often the smallest guy in my row of an airplane
that is saying something
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
the SoCal basic is way cheaper than 81 games at a 10 clip, the 2 premiums would be equal
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
To be fair you aren't going to go to disneyland 81 times
with season pass. usually.
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well I’d love to meet the season ticket holder who doesn’t miss a game, but sure, point taken
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
I meant delias man.
For baseball, he’s the only person I know who’s done all 81. I’ve known a few people who have made it to every Kings game or Clippers game in a given season.
by Michael White on Oct 24, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
2008
i did 80. i missed a sat night august game where blake had a GW hit against marlins. stuck at a wedding in Laguna beach. at the wedding i found out my fat cousin was doing my fat friend that was married. very strange day.
You know someone who went to every Clipper game?
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Yup. A bunch of the guys on the blog never miss a game. It’s crazy actually.
by Michael White on Oct 24, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
I was proud of myself in my pre-car days when I watched every single minute of the Lakers 1991-1992 season on TV.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 24, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
You mean the SoCal “Select” plan? check out the blackout dates. No Saturdays, no Sundays, and nothing that remotely qualifies as a “holiday.” You get M-F only, no holidays. That is not a pass that anyone with children can use. Unless you homeschool, I guess.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
That is taking $200 times however many people in your family and throwing it away. What a useless pass.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
no, I meant the one labeled So Cal annual passport. Basic as in not Deluxe
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
I like going on weekdays
less people. I don’t have kids though
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If you don’t have kids and you are over 21 what the fuck are you doing at Disneyland
/notpeterpan
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Getting drunk and going on rides.
Asked and answered.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
That is what Magic Mountain is for
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
except magic mountain is full of men with gun tattoos on their neck
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
D-land has those two
but they are running around with their kids having a blast, so its different
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yeah, I used to go to MM when I was in high school and right after, but that was the 80s and we were high and drunk (bad person alert) and people got stabbed while I was in the park, I got threatened that same night in a very real and dangerous way, so I decided to fuck that noise
I heard they don’t murder people there anymore, but I am not rally interested in returning
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
That unique aroma of popcorn, coca-cola and vomit?
TBLA’s tattoo / body is not nearly high enough to be MM worthy.
Follow @DavidYoungTBLA
- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Oct 25, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
I had a pass at MM for a few years. Probably between 13 and when I got my drivers license. That got old after a while.
by Michael White on Oct 24, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I am little surprised he could do this without the approval of Bankruptcy Court/Trustee
Now, it could be true that without this, holding on to a significant number of the 17,000 season ticket holders was going to be hard but you are automatically cutting revenue unless you project a growth of lets say 25% to at least try to have that overall revenue be similar to 2010.
Probably easier when he shows the court the end of year survey said that 73.2% of season tickets were not planning on renewing.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Why are we worried about trading Kemp or Kershaw?
It’s not going to happen.
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
I am cyncial as anyone about Frank
but I don’t think he or Ned would make a move so monumentally stupid. They are both beloved by fans casual and hardcore. It would be terrible for PR and ticket sales
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
I am not worried
but we like to talk and sometimes we run out of things to talk about so someone will make up something to talk about and then we’ll talk about it until it is all talked out
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m not worried about that.
I am worried that Kemp won’t be re-signed to a long-term deal and that he will leave after 2012.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 24, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
that is a slight gnawing to my peace of mind, like a tumor in its infancy that somewhere I suspect even if I can’t feel it yet
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Of course it is, Matt Kemp is not signing an extension with the Dodgers, they will need to trade him. He is going to sign the most expensive free agent contract for an outfielder in baseball history, and he’s not going to let an extension get in the way of that.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Excluding Manny's FA deal and Braun's extension
Carl Crawford has the highest per year FA deal for an outfielder at just shy of $20.3M/year for seven years.
I would say 5 years for 116M is around the going rate.
by bhsportsguy on Oct 24, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
yes, there is no standard that will stand the test of time
flavor of the month, er year
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
since kemp is actually good
he could get a 200 million deal?
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 24, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Manny’s 8/$160m deal is the largest total. Crawford is at 7/$142m.
For average, Manny’s 2/$45m deal with the Dodgers is tops.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 24, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
A decent 1 for 4. Hit two balls really well to right center
rolled over on a slow fastball on the outside corner I should have whacked into RF
how about you?
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
I threw F-ing hard yesterday. Like, whatever was hard for me before, that was my very first warmup pitch. It was insane. 6IP, 10K, 0BB, 2HBP.
Didn’t get an at bat until the 8th, when I struck out on 3 pitches. FB that I fouled down the line, then two wicked curveballs that started at me and fell for strikes. First thing I heard from the dugout, “What, you can throw em but not hit em?”
awesome
I like you, but I kinda hate all pitchers
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
Soriano got 8/$136m ($17m per)
Werth got 7/$126m ($18m per)
by Eric Stephen on Oct 24, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
I could live with that for the Dodgers...
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
I like the idea of the 5 year deal
it gives Matt a chance at one more big deal at a reasonable age (33) and while it is a big financial commitment, it is one that should be good for the team.
he could go the CC route which makes sense for someone his age. Also that allows him the chance to change teams if he finds it intolerable to be a Red Sox.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think Ned is into opt-out clauses.
by silverwidow on Oct 24, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
its interesting
people will let the owners of other companies that they do business do far worse things then Frank has ever done, but the second you touch their SPORTS they go bonkers!
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And going bonkers involves cutting off their nose to spite their face
by Michael White on Oct 24, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Resolving not to spend $10,000.00 does not seem like “going bonkers”.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
yes, 100% yes
don’t go to the Dodgers because you don’t like the product, the stadium, the pricing, the experience whatever – but make it about the actual team
boycotting the owner is weird to me, what if tomorrow he is hit on the head and becomes the greatest owner in the history of sports?
I hope he goes, but if he plotted a new course tomorrow and I mostly liked where it was going, I would be pleased and support that new course
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
We watch for the team. For Vin. For the roar of the crowd, the crack of the bat, and the smell of the hotdogs. For the favorite players, and the players who need to retire. For the ones who thought they could come home again, and for those just finding a new home with us. For the heartbreaking losses and the I CALLED IT victories. For the playoff chases and the spoilers. For the Giants. For the draft picks who taught us never to trust draft picks, and for the ones that keep us believing. For the 2-0 sliders, the big strikeouts, the diving catches and the walkoffs. For baseball. For the Dodgers.
A man who sits in a closed off office can not extinguish that for me.
by G.Scott on Oct 24, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
yeah, fuck him, fuck anybody, fuck everybody
nobody is going to make baseball anything other than baseball for me. and I like to watch it
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
well said.
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
You are an intelligent, long time Dodger fan, whose opinion here would be useful. What exactly is it about Frank that makes it this simple.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I can enjoy watching games from home
almost as much as watching them live. So, no money to frank, and I still get to be a rabid Dodger fan like you all.
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
they money still gets to frank
remember, the real money is in the TV deal, everything else is peanuts :-p
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Only abstractly so you are reaching, not like the TV experience has click through advertising where an action by you directly impacts a bottom line. Passively watching something based on a previously signed contract does not do diddle for Frankie.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
miniplans are always a good idea
if you dont want to commit to 81 games.. you get some of the perks of season tickets but you dont have to go to every single game.. and theyre pretty flexible.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 24, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah
but youre a little bit further back in the line.. but thats how I got tickets for opening day, playoffs, etc.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 24, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
I am always happy to bring in splits for my tickets
I am still not sure I am doing it but the $5 off per ticket help.
by bhsportsguy on Oct 24, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
People love free stuff. A deal like Buy season tickets, get a free personalized jersey, or even an autographed ball from Dodgers VP Steve Garvey Fernando Valenzuela, would probably help without costing the team too much.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
And stop calling my shirsey
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Giving up fast food
Sorry guys, you can’t pin that on me anymore. :)
Going mostly veggie with lean meats for a while.
That is bigger news than the Dodgers cutting season ticket prices.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
You should wait until you need to lose 50
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Least helpful comment of the day, or most helpful?
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
good luck
weight has been a life long struggle for me.
feelin you
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
I've fluctuated WIDLY in weight in the past ten years, trust me
right now Im just on the low end. But the maintenance and mental energy it takes to eat healthfully is really a lot.
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
I've weighed as high as 135, and as low as 100
thats a pretty wide range for 5’2’’
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
being 5’9" means I have no idea what I should weigh, but as a kid hearing every celebrity was 110 made me hate life
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I can imagine, the whole proper weight thing should be examined by Mrs Obama to put everyone straight. I still think it is the far between male who likes to feel the skeletal remains of the media girls of today.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I need to get back to lifting weights
I don’t want to ever be “skinny”
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
the great line from Pulp Fiction
It’s unfortunate what we find pleasing to the touch and pleasing to the eye is seldom the same.
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
nice touch
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
regardless of whether they are 5'0 or 5'10''
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
In all seriousness
Good luck, I hope it works out for you.
Keep in mind you can still eat fast food 3 times a week. Your body is going to need the fats and carbs to keep going otherwise you’ll just get insane cravings and find yourself sitting in front of 5 empty chicken mcnugget boxes.
or the special edition 50 piece box
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 24, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I like what I call the “meat salads” with an oil and vinegar based dressing
bean and rice salads with or without chix
Chicken Cobb
Chicken walnut and blue
Shrimp / corn southwest mexican thingly
Tuna nicoise
filling, good fats and proteins, healthy
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
garbanzo beans are great for salads too
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
and rice
beans and rice people. Cheap, delicious, ever so nutritious
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
as long as its not encased in a chipotle burrito :-)
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
I wanna go in to chipotle and see how much it would cost to fill one of the bowls up with their rice.
by NotJoeTorre on Oct 24, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
rice be nutritious?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
also the brown rice pasta from TJs isn't bad
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
well if you're craving pasta its a healthy alternative
and i find the texture is actually BETTER than whole wheat pasta
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
believe, i love white carbs as much as the next person :-)
but the brown rice stuff/whole wheat stuff is OK once in a while, with proper toppings of course
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
for healthier and delicious
Farro based pastas are best, though expensive to get the good ones
Kamut based too
you can get them both at surfas for about 9 bucks a pound
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Surfas is awesome.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t care to go that way, but I don’t judge folks who do
I would rather eat boiled shoelaces
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I've had problems with it
practically disentegrating on me and getting mushy. Been a long time since I bought it though
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Wheat pasta only works with heavy toppings, which defeats the purpose of wheat pasta.
Most whole wheat stuff is fine or better but I need real pasta.
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by regfairfield on Oct 24, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
its a spaghetti sauce receptacle
the real stuff is so much better though.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Sure, but the difference between olive oil, tomatoes and basil on angel hair versus whole wheat spaghetti with a big ol pile of sauce and meat has got to be negligible at best.
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by regfairfield on Oct 24, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Best of luck
And I know you are serious because you announced this on the same day McDonalds said the McRib is back.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 24, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
reading this
as I wolf down my half and half bowl from Flame Broiler
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 24, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
nay sir
half chicken, half beef. Brown rice. No onions
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 24, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
agreed
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 24, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
yes, brown rice over white rice is another good thing for ze body
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I for one think this is great! Good luck.
I quit red meat 10 years ago and haven’t looked back but had trouble going full on vegetarian, so i still eat poultry and fish, and go veggie for 2-3 days in a row each week. but mostly just staying away from polyunsaturated fats and partially hydrogenated fats, eating more fresh produce, and drinking water instead of sodas, etc… will do the trick.
says the partially employed dude who is not a nutritionist…
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
there is no vowel at the end of Aramark, thus I will not be eating any pasta from Aramark
somethings are easy to figure
Seriously will have to give you a pasta education this fall
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
A great and wonderful breakfast
Leftover spaghetti frittata
place a little olive oil and water into a pan -turn heat to medium
dump leftover pasta into pan and lower the heat a bit
beat several eggs (depends on how much pasta) pour over pasta
The eggs will bind with noodles as they cook – binds all together
cook on range until bottom is lightly browned
grate parmigiana cheese on top of fritta
pop under the broiler
cook until brown and crisp
remove from oven , let cool for 5, cut out pie like slices. Serve with salad with acidic dressing and sliced hearty bread
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
This has been saved for later. Hugo’s serves a variation of this for breakfast, and it is one of my favorites.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
pasta mama!
that one is a little different, they toss theirs with eggs. this one you make into a lovely little pie
both awesome
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I see, so to make the pasta mama, I’d want to do it the same way, but use fewer eggs and then not broil it?
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think they use leftover pasta in the mama
I think they take cooked noodles and add them to a pan with olive oil, S&P, and garlic and toss the eggs in letting them “break” slightly into curds with maybe a little parm cheese mixed in – like a carbonara but not as heavy on the cheese and of course they let the eggs break (which is a sin in carbonara)
but I could be wrong, been at least a year since I have had it
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
and parsley and maybe oregano
don’t remember if there was onion
but I bet that is how they do it
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
and making this, pasta mama, very easy
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
First lesson
never rinse pasta after cooking.
Second, use a little of the pasta water (water that the pasta was cooked in) in your sauce.
Often, the best pasta and easiest is to take the cooked pasta, add to pan with slightly sauteed baby tomatoes and garlic, add some fresh basil, a little extra-virgin olive oil and a sprinkle of Parm Reg.
by bhsportsguy on Oct 24, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
this dish needs the real deal ingredients to work
top tomatoes, high quality EVOO, and not pre-gated out of the can cheese
but it is a knockout when done right
I like to hit it with some crushed red pepper – light touch
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Definitely
I was not implying to use brown rice pasta nor pre-grated cheese.
by bhsportsguy on Oct 24, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve been working with real parm reg ever since I got into cheese, and I haven’t looked back. That stuff is amazing.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
the king of cheese
I freeze the rinds, when I get a bunch I simmer them for hours in water, makes an incredible broth base for soups
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
one of those rinds
broke my garbage disposal a couple years ago. still broken. totally don’t know how it got down there.
take it to the food thread
I swear, so much good goes bad, when wasted in comments
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
It’s not my site, but I was thinking today about whether it would be better to have a fanpost for our daily chat, and keep the front page on topic only.
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
to what end? What is made better by this?
of that I am curious
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
an outsider, who stumbles upon this article about attendance, has to try and fight their way into this goop? It’s intimidating and doesn’t let the site breathe
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Excellent example
Each Fanpost would be Daily Rants with subtitles
THought seeing on topic comments limited to five or less would take us back three years
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
FWIW, I think we stayed on topic (ticket prices) for well over 100 comments today.
by Michael White on Oct 24, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Eric has to decide if it is front page worthy. He doesn’t just hand those out to every Tom, Delias, and Mary.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
my idea wouldn’t be to make it a front page fanpost though, just a daily chat fanpost you could go to after reading the new article of the day.
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
You should give it a shot on your blog, compile the stats, and then let us know how it turned out.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I don’t have the numbers on my blog, like I said, not my blog just an idea
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
This isn’t a very flexible group, giving them choices about where and how to post would result in convulsions, sweaty palms, huge eyes, and the inability to react to the changing landscape with out severe repercussions to their nervous systems.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I still don’t get the benefit
I don’t know how it makes it easier to find comments or makes it friendlier to join in the conversation
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
they do that
on Silver Screen and Roll. The SBN Laker Blog
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 24, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
they do it on the Cal blog too, but I’m scared to say thats where I got the idea
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah
no one would believe you got if from a Laker blog. :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 24, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah – um
not my bag or concern
I think community is this mess and goop and self selects accordingly. Fragment the soup and it becomes a whole lot less interesting.
I like being surprised on topics, it is maybe the best part
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Having to Z through simultaneous Star Wars and Comic Book chats during a high leverage baseball game. :)
owning my SBN blog has changed me. I’m a changed woman
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
our Olive Garden conversation could have been so much simpler : )
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Aramark: “It’ll do, I guess”
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by regfairfield on Oct 24, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
they had the contract for the food at my university
do not want
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 24, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Matt Kemp will be in the house at the World Series
TheRealMattKemp
Jus landed in Dallas… Gotta get that good Hank Aaron award 2nite!!
Cool
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Oct 24, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
More detailed
TheRealMattKemp
Just landed in Dallas…Excited to be part of this evenings pre-game ceremony!
by bhsportsguy on Oct 24, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
The Shitty Hank Aaron Award will be given out tonight in Milwaukee, and was purchased from Walmart. In three years, Ryan Braun will need to buy another trophy when his SHA breaks.
Here is the link to the Dodgers
Winter League Stats collection
Overall, better pitching than hitting, Jerry Sands is in the Dominican, Belisario is pitching in the Venezuelan league and Velez got some hits in Winter ball.
how does solano have so many innings pitched
and 12 wins?!
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 24, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s 2-0 with 9 innings pitched?
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by regfairfield on Oct 24, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Basically, everyone but Castellanos is bad, and he is hurt.
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by regfairfield on Oct 24, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
joe pos
gives some props to vin whilst talking shit about fox. two of my favorite things.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 24, 2011 12:40 PM PDT reply actions
as was said last night on Twitter, Vin stopped doing the World Series, he wasn’t fired. These campaigns would be like a petition to get Vin to travel to New York again. Against his wishes
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
On TV
it stopped after NBC no longer had the rights. On national radio, it stopped when ESPN Radio got the rights to the World Series.
It is really that simple.
At least in 2006, 2008 and 2009, Vin traveled with the Dodgers and did the radio broadcasts on the Dodger radio network with Charley and Rick. I would presume that as long as he remains with the team, he will do that if the Dodgers cooperate by reaching the post-season.
by bhsportsguy on Oct 24, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
However
Vin’s use of statistics don’t add a whole lot either and to be fair, he will say a lot of the same things about a player (particularly visiting but sometimes a Dodger (like Rod Barajas being groundball adverse) over and over.
He is great in the big moments and the small ones but the most important thing Vin does is to stay secondary to the game itself.
by bhsportsguy on Oct 24, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
one of my favorite things about vin
is he absolutely loves the game and has kept that intact for god knows how long.. then you contrast that to clowns like joe buck who said that quip about barely liking baseball at all..
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 24, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I honestly don’t find Joe Buck that bad. He gets ribbed for being monotone, but he hasn’t said anything that made me SMH. Now, McCarver has repeatedly made me wonder why he’s the #2.
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
The one people hate that I like is Bob Costas.
Also, Jon Miller. I think he’s really, really good. Do people just knock him because he calls games for the Giants? If that’s the case, fuck Jon Miller — but if there’s something about him that people genuinely dislike, I don’t see it.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Those are two of my faves as well. Matt Vasgersian is my favorite “young” announcer.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Charlie Steiner’s method for dealing with announcing when all hell breaks loose:
1. Make an incorrect call
2. Shut up for 15 seconds while all hell breaks loose and the crowd goes crazy
3. Come back and tell everybody, in an excited voice, what just went down.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Jon Miller would be an excellent choice for WS voice, but he seems to be on the outs for whatever reason.
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Anyone who mentions “the real home run king” is on the shit list. So Costas is out for that and so many other reasons.
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by regfairfield on Oct 24, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
“You know when baseball was at it’s best? When I was 12.”
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by regfairfield on Oct 24, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
that is fair and the goods
drugs are killing baseball, I love Mickey Mantle
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
And when I was 12 there were dingers galore. It was pretty awesome.
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by regfairfield on Oct 24, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I was cooler with Costas before he became the moral arbiter of baseball
I love Jon Miller
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Jon Miller was saddled with that assclown
whats his name? The short one, anyways, its guilt by association
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
From the article:
Brandon McCarthy chose Vin and someone to bring him water.
But everybody knows that Vin doesn’t drink water during a game! Jolly Ranchers FTMFW!
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Thats a good idea. I literally run to the bathroom when Im done with a game.
by NotJoeTorre on Oct 24, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Two big problems with the article
1. JoePo talks about announcers having a shelf life, then ends with talking about Vin’s brilliance. 60+ years of still being great at what has always made him great. He might mess up a name or two, but he calls the game as perfectly as ever.
2. He says that McCarver used to be good. As far as I can tell, there is one thing about him that qualifies him as an acceptable announcer — his voice. He is, bar none, the worst baseball analyst I have ever heard, but he sounds like an announcer. Apparently, he got one right in the game the other day, but I have never found anyone to be as consistently wrong about what just happened than him.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I’d agree with Pod that McCarver used to be good. Probably before most of you were cognizant and he remembered exactly how he and the game was played.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I loved him briefly
then hated him more than words
now I think he is mostly wind with sometimes really good observations that become clear to me only after he says them and I think they are right on
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
In my view, as good as the Yankee’s were in the first half of the game, that’s how as bad they are now.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 24, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
right, it’s not real though. It was a joke by Family Guy on how bad McCarver is.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 24, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
But this is
“Folks, we don’t want to throw a lot of numbers at you, but this year, 39% of leadoff walks have scored. That’s about 40% of the time.”
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by regfairfield on Oct 24, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah Tim
just about……
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 24, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Dodgers fan, and pig farmer, may be the best fantasy baseball player in the world.
The N.F.B.C. set up about 26 leagues of 15 teams each, and in March held drafts in Las Vegas, St. Louis, New York, Atlantic City and online. Each league had a prize of $5,600, and the leaders in each league compete against one another for the overall prize.His team featured one Matt Kemp.
.
In 2009 Hinkelman raked in an astonishing $241,300 in prize money. He won the $100,000 contest, and another for $40,000. The N.F.B.C. had said anyone who could win both would get a $75,000 bonus, which it insured with Lloyd’s of London — and he took that home as well.
.
In 2011 he paid $8,750 in entry fees for his various teams, and took home $116,750 in prizes, according to Greg Ambrosius, who runs the N.F.B.C. as general manager of consumer fantasy games for Stats LLC.
that dude who picked a-rod first
deserved to lose
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 24, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
$16 million + $16 million – Ryan Howard’s foot
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Oswalt’s kind of a shock. Either they can’t really afford a 160 million dollar payroll or they’re going after…crap I can’t even think of someone that would be a fit.
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by regfairfield on Oct 24, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, that’s probably the best option.
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by regfairfield on Oct 24, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Blanton’s still around. Since they really don’t want Domonic Brown to start they need to get a left fielder. Willingham I guess.
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by regfairfield on Oct 24, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
we need to waste some money this offseason.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Oswalt is gonna be 34 next year. Gotta think his first choice is to return to the Phillies — let’s take 2/24 (as above) as the benchmark.
Would you beat that deal for Oswalt?
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
34
short
right handed
bad back
Even without baseball ref to guide me, Phillies made a great decision.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
"BREAKING: Dodgers Sign Patton Oswalt"
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Since we're on the topic (open question)
since Fox started snatching up sports broadcasting contracts 20 years ago, have they made things better?
K-zone is ESPN, love. You’re thinking of FoxTraks
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
and on that topic
“The question is: What serves the viewer best?” asked Joe Buck, the network’s lead play-by-play man. “That’s the task. I’ve told our people during seminars that it drags us into an area where now all we’re doing is basically grading the umpire. I think the game is really between a pitcher and a batter, and now we’re taking viewers’ eyes away from that matchup and looking to the bottom right after every pitch. It’s just kind of superfluous in a way.”
http://www.insidesocal.com/tomhoffarth/archives/2011/10/foxtrax-vs-pitc.html
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
no and you will hate them for what they do to Soccer
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
because it’s not coverage! It’s just you getting the international feed through a third party. and somehow they manage to make it worse, with their cable access studios with pundits wearing detective suits
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Their coverage of the Champion’s League finals earlier this year was horrible because they tried to dumb it down — even though ESPN showed with their World Cup coverage that you don’t have to dumb soccer down for Americans.
oh that whole intro explaining soccer lingo with Michael Strahan. Pulling my hair out. They did the same thing with their first post-football soccer broadcast, but they’ve been better since
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
oh, Fox Soccer is the bane of my existance
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Not to be too simplistic, but it’s better than the alternative (the game not being on.) I mean, I like watching Premier League on Saturday mornings rather than 10 different college football pre-game shows on all the ESPN channels.
Fox seems great to me. I get a ton of games on the regional fox channels and I can watch EPL stuff on Fox Soccer. I don’t see the complaint.
by Michael White on Oct 24, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
This is like the complaint about ESPN. Their highlight shows blow and I could do without (and I found it easy to simply not watch) shows like Around the Horn and First and 10, but I love that ESPN/ABC makes sure that we are able to watch all the big games that wouldn’t be broadcast otherwise.
by Michael White on Oct 24, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I actually like ESPN. My complaint about Fox is they’ve purchased these contracts, but their presentation still feels second rate
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Ah. So you’re talking about the World Cup thing, not really Fox Soccer…
In that case, I don’t really have an opinion one way or the other. Sorry for interjecting
by Michael White on Oct 24, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
House. I think House and Bones are the two examples of Fox presenting a classy product without destroying it.
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Overall
they have given the least amount of interference to the Simpsons and pretty much left it alone in its Sunday time slot after it spent a few years on Thursdays.
yeah
I remember on some “making of” things of the show, the producers were adamant about “no notes” from the network
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 24, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
That I don't hate Bones
after 6 seasons is a surprise to me. Come on season 7!
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
jumping right into preggers bones after all that will they or won’t they. Way better than turning Cutty into the uber bitch
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
never seen a moment of it – shocked that it has been on 7 years
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Steps to watching House
1. Have they thrown out Lupus yet? If yes go to 3
2. This cure is going to make her worse
3. They ruled out lupus? Here comes to real diagnosis!
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
if they’re are at least 15 mins left, the patient is still sick
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 24, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
it kind of makes a lot of sense
its almost the only way it makes sense for them to stick with how mutch of a nutter they have made her out to be as of late. It was kind of blatent though that they where trying to rectify it and make here more likeable leading up to it though.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
you're right
Season 1 Bones was a person, by Season four she was a caricature, but they’ve been dialing it back down.
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I have ranted on this topic about a dozen times
as writers create characters, those characters become more like themselves over time, with each new episode the character reacts to the situation and further defines who they are, until they stop being anything other than a series of known and expected reactions to patterned stimuli
= caricature
and when they start knocking uglies, the end is near
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
this is why
i have trouble watching sitcoms.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 24, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
4-5 seasons
and then jump! but by then I’m invested and can’t let go…
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
and this is also why I love Doctor Who’s policy of regeneration. Three years and let someone else play the character
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
that is pretty brilliant
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 24, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
And they switch companions pretty often. Amy will be the first companion to be with the doctor for three seasons (er, series) in the regenerated Who, I believe.
you think they’ll stick with Amy but Matt Smith leaves? I think that’s backwards
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
ah I read that wrong. I was like, Matt Smith didn’t regenerate
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope he sticks around for awhile. Would be cool to see someone in the role for five series or something — so that the regeneration is an even bigger deal.
David Tennant did four, and his regeneration nearly exploded the nerd community and it still hasn’t recovered : )
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
they did it with rose
but the doc she started with lasted only 1 year
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
show's you how much i watch Bones
I didn’t even know they were shagging
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 24, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
dang
one time and she has a pic of him cooking an omelette naked? they be freaks
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 24, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Holland doesn't have a mustache
he has some hairs on his upper lip
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 24, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I love 24
but it did get annoying when every year it was,
“Hey, it’s Jack Bauer, he saved the world those 7 or 8 times.”
“So what? Fuck that guy!! ARREST HIM!!!”
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 24, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
how is this even a question, do you not watch Fox?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I’m just fostering debate, maybe there are those who think the football robot and their tying every sport into the football brand is a good thing
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Took 15 minutes for anyone to stand up for it
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
it took that long to get down here through the goop : )
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
at soome point
responding to cranky phil goes down to the bottom of my priority list
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
yeah
I was set to ignore until someone else jumped in
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Time to put Phil away and bring out the meercat.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I think being able to watch every single game is a very good thing.
But that probably would have happened with or without Fox.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Oct 24, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Fox just organized the regional networks, I’m sure Prime Ticket would have gotten their on their own/some other media company would have organized them
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I wish he was about to pitch a game right now
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
the line of coversations in this thread
is awesome.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 24, 2011 1:26 PM PDT reply actions
Proper response
Joe Carter
by Eric Stephen on Oct 24, 2011 1:45 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
haha
I was thinking something around the lines of the only thing worse than your mechanics was your ability to pitch but Joe Carter is easier and its quick to the point
Better response
Clayton Kershaw walked 54 batters this season. Mitch Williams, a closer, had four seasons with more walks (plus two more with 52 and 50, respectively).
by Eric Stephen on Oct 24, 2011 1:58 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Mitch Williams
gave up more walks than hits in his career.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 24, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
G Scott is right
the flatbreads at BWW are good. At least the breakfast one is.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
As heard on ESPN Radio, if C.J. Wilson gets the loss tonight he will be the first pitcher ever with four losses in one postseason.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 24, 2011 1:48 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Certainly the only one to follow that with a 5/75 deal promised by Xeifrank
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
and
he lost the All Star Game
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 24, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m surprised we didn’t talk more about the greatest world series game every played at the Ravine.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
It is more bad news for McCourt that the creditors would ask for a sale (rather than the auction of the TV rights). If the judge thinks they’re right — that only with a sale can they be made whole — that has got to be big.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Creditor’s committee formally asks judge to deny #Dodgers bid to sell TV rights, saying full repayment to creditors could be jeopardized.
Creditors ask judge to wait 30 days before ruling on MLB motion for team sale so McCourt and MLB could try for “consensual exit strategy”
Creditors advocate plan that “provides for the smooth transition of ownership and safeguards that concerns of the [Dodgers’] creditors.”
Creditors: "How can #Dodgers TV rights sale generate maximum value w “shadow of almost-certain litigation (from Fox) and opposition by MLB?”
Creditors also warn #Dodgers could “run out of liquidity entirely” if they pursue a TV deal that cannot be closed"
Bottom line: Creditors say they might not be repaid in full if #Dodgers sell TV rights, would be repaid if team sold. Bad news for McCourt.
One more from the #Dodgers creditors: “A prompt sale of the team is the most prudent course of action.”
McCourt: “I can pay Tcreditors in full if I get to sell #Dodgers’ TV rights. Creditors: We can’t count on that”
seems like the whole concept of bk court is to pay the creditors.. this is kind of a big deal…
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 24, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
i'm gonna do that
when I get home.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 24, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
So what are the thoughts on how ESPN had changed us culturally? In 140 characters or less
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
our culture has evolved
to be based around whining about something we should just stop watching instead
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
K-zone, choice beyond the game of the week, World Cup as huge event, and a 24 hour sports newscycle
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
ON THE EVOLUTION OF CULTURE IN THE AGE OF THE WORLDWIDE LEADER
I don’t mean to sound like a nerd,
But ESPN’s for the bird.
The horrible scripts,
The linking of clips?
Sports is a four-letter word.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Screw journalism, I want to be on the TV.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Oct 24, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
He must have read it wrong with his one eye
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Lets more idiots think they know what they are talking about
by BFDC on Oct 24, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
139 characters, a letter to spare!
On ESPN opinions are entertainment, not always informative or even factual. It has shaped cable news more than cable news has shaped ESPN.
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I read somewhere that CNBC modelled its entire format after ESPN. Then millions lost their shirts in the stock market, but that’s another story . . .
shit, really?
I was just talking out of my ass using my own observations, I had no idea I was like factual
ha!
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Skip Bayless considered expert at something.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Oct 24, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
“Heh, you nerds think that you know more than the ESPN guys”
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Oct 24, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Skip Schumaker is starting in center field tonight.
La Russa’s cerebral, academic approach to the game doesn’t always yield the right answers, but you’re always left with the idea that he’s asking the right questions.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
candy bars
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 24, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
is it correct?
or is that just the answer you wanted?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 24, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I love the fact that he is always willing to try new things on the baseball field, even if they go against the grain. Some of his decisions are stupid though.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Jay: Isn’t hitting, been getting to everything hit to the outfield
Schumaker: Can’t hit, no range, is grown man named Skip.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Oct 24, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, he makes moves that add needless complexity to the game. He would say he’s looking for ways to tilt the odds, even slightly, in his favor, and I dig that. But I’d say that the game is complex enough that I wonder if he is moving the needle beyond chance.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
some stupidity is the price of making decisions.
greatest thing I learned is that it is more important to make decisions than to make the right decision every time
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 24, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Except in baseball the best thing to do 99% of the time is to play your best guys, then get the hell out of the way.
Of course Schumaker is going to go 4 for 4 tonight after I said this.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Oct 24, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Except in baseball the best thing to do 99% of the time is to play your best guys, then get the hell out of the way.
Yes. Corollary: if a dude is pitching well, that might be more important than considering which hand he is pitching with.
Platoon advantage is real and important, but four pitching changes in an inning is asking to get burned by a guy who just doesn’t have it tonight.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Oct 24, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Right. The handedness advantages assume the pitcher you’re bringing in is at his best that night. Keep in mind that any reliever you bring in is inherently not one of your best five pitchers in most game situations.
but sometimes its Etheir at the plate
and just getting a guy who can throw strikes up there is enough
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
He is a .661 hitter career against lefties
and that includes his first year or two where he wasn’t shit against them. Slugging .359. I’m not worried about him crushing anything against a lefty if I’m the other team.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
“More is lost to indecision than wrong decision.” —Carmela Soprano
(And yes, my wife is tired of my saying that.)
It shows us how far we’ve come from everyones scouting report being “throw ball that breaks 8 feet at the last second”
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Oct 24, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Albert Kelly, the mayor of Bridgeton, New Jersey is no fan of Jose Reyes taking himself out to enhance his chances at a batting title on the last game of the season, in this timely column written four weeks after the fact.
Just for fun
Stanford has now won 10 straight games by at least 25 points — the first team to do so since 1936.
that is the ugliest combination of colors. Red pants, black undershirt, white jersey?
by Josie Becker on Oct 24, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
The perfect response, and so painful.
or as Versus announcer Ron Thulin called that play on TV, “Touchdown USC”
by Eric Stephen on Oct 24, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Man stuck in child’s swing for nine hours.
The man told police that he had been stuck in the swing since 9 p.m. Friday after he allegedly made a $100 bet with his friends. He proceeded to lube himself with laundry detergent to get into the swing, police said.
.
The friends then reportedly left him swinging through the night.
There was a huge scandal over hazing in a high school in Las Vegas, NM (not Nevada) a few years ago. One of the players ended up getting two years in juvenile detention for it, a couple of others one year.
That happened to a dude who played ball at South Torrance whe I was there. Met the kid a couple years later, I felt a little better knowing he was a prick.
Happened to a football player at West.
Sodomy is pretty big out in Torrance.
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by regfairfield on Oct 24, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe it was a West guy? I forget where he went, just know he ended up playing at ElCo. All I remember was broomstick after he yelled some obscenities at a group of football players.
Yeah, that was West.
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by regfairfield on Oct 24, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Glad I moved away
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Yeah, Robertson. How do you even know that place exists? I had to double check the name of the high school.
My dad is from Las Vegas, NM. I think he went there for a couple years before transfering to a high school in Texas because a couple of thugs would bully he and my uncle on their way home from school every day.
Crazy. Yeah, northern New Mexico can be a rough place. That’s where my mom’s family is from.
Not Las Vegas, but a small village right by the Colorado border.
Gotcha. “Thugs” was the best term I could come up with without sounding racist. Rough place to live no doubt. I guess he lived kind of in the boonies, and would stay up late to listen for prowlers. Different worlds.
The version of “Get Back” on the Beatles’ Love CD is really freaking cool. I already dug the song, but the way they mash up some effects from “A Hard Day’s Night” and “The End” make it fantastic.
I didn’t even know the Beatles wrote that song until like 2010.
Aerosmith’s cover was pretty good as I recall.
I’m not a fan either. Although it’s not exactly Lennon’s lyrical pinnacle.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Right. It’s a fun cover and a decently fun song to sing, but it’s not like they tried to cover Beethoven’s 5th on the electric guitar (though I’m not sure why no one has"
nope
but he did do it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrhdx5W8GFI
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Someone in my office just asked me how to do division on the computer calculator. “Is it / or *?” Shit you not.
Was it someone from IT?
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
No one called delias man or me yet to join
BillShaikin
US Trustee agrees to appoint two #Dodgers season ticket holders to official creditors’ committee. No official committee for tix holders.
the only solution is not to invite keith
but then whats the point?
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
by nolander on Oct 24, 2011 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
My dad and his friends went on annual
deer hunting trips. They were really drinking trips with guns. One of the things the old man loved to do was get up before everyone and empty his pistol into a tree by the tent. It amused him no end the cursing coming out of the tent.
I’m surprised no one was killed in all those years.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Hee hee.
RT @DSzymborski: I made a quick diagram to sum up Frank McCourt’s reorganization plan in bankruptcy court. http://t.co/sAviDNKr
http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/images/uploads/article/Frank_McCourt.png
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