Matt Kemp & Clayton Kershaw Named To Sporting News NL All-Star Team
The honors continue to roll in for Dodgers Matt Kemp and Clayton Kershaw, who on Thursday were named to the 2011 Sporting News National League All-Star team. Voting for the All-Star teams was done by league executives, and there were 29 National League front office members who voted on the NL team. Kemp was the only unanimous selection in the National League. Justin Verlander was the only unanimous selection for the American League.
| Sporting News 2011 All-Star Teams | ||||
| National League | American League | |||
| C | Brian McCann | C | Alex Avila | |
| 1B | Prince Fielder | 1B | Adrian Gonzalez | |
| 2B | Brandon Phillips | 2B | Robinson Cano | |
| 3B | Aramis Ramirez | 3B | Adrian Beltre | |
| SS | Troy Tulowitzki | SS | Asdrubal Cabrera | |
| OF | Matt Kemp | OF | Jose Bautista | |
| OF | Ryan Braun | OF | Jacoby Ellsbury | |
| OF | Justin Upton | OF | Curtis Granderson | |
| DH | David Ortiz | |||
| SP | Clayton Kershaw | SP | Justin Verlander | |
| RP | Craig Kimbrel | RP | Mariano Rivera | |
In addition to being named a Sporting News All-Star, Kemp has won the Baseball America Major League Player of the Year and the NL Hank Aaron Award. The Sporting News Player of the Year, voted on by major league players, will be announced tomorrow, and don't be surprised if Kemp takes home another honor.
Kemp was also a Sporting News NL All-Star in 2009.
Kershaw also won the Warren Spahn Award, an honor given to the top left-handed pitcher in MLB. The Baseball Writers' Association of America will announce the National League Cy Young winner on Thursday, November 17, and the NL Most Valuable Player on Tuesday, November 22.
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Colletti loves him some relief
As far as improvement for 2012, Colletti obviously can’t — and wouldn’t — talk about what players he might want to sign or acquire in a trade. The contract options on third baseman Casey Blake and pitcher Jon Garland weren’t exercised, but they could be signed later and for less than the combined $14 million they made in their injury-plagued 2011 seasons. The GM did say, though, that an important piece of the puzzle will be rebuilding the bullpen.
Former closer Jonathan Broxton is still a possibility to return, but with the emergence of strikeout machine Kenley Jansen and closer Javy Guerra, the team will primarily be looking for some front end help. Ideally, it would be Jansen and Guerra battling it out for the closer role, with the other becoming the set-up man. The seventh-inning bridge man could be a veteran Darren Oliver-type.
"Bullpens are the most fluid part of our sport right now," Colletti said. "But it’s also extremely important. Our starting pitching is excellent, and if we get Ruby de la Rosa (Tommy John surgery) back at some point, we have a chance to be the best rotation. But we need to keep our relievers healthy and make it so everyone knows their role every game.
"Things are going to get interesting in a couple of days."
I am inclined to think that last line just means free agency is about to become official, but maybe Ned has something in the works. :)
by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2011 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions
You know, I’m pretty quick to slam Colletti, but I don’t take his comments right now as anything more than media fodder. Whatever he’s going to do will have little to do with things he says now.
I thought our bullpen was awesome?
then again Colletti is a depth man so who knows what he thinks is adequate.. maybe we’ll get another guerrier type of ‘proven reliever’ who isnt a type a..
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 27, 2011 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I do not like how much Ned talks about the bullpen as a place for improvement, Sam I Am.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
maybe hes just throwing the media a bone
its a relatively controversy free area of the team where he can speculate more than other, pricier positions?
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 27, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions
And it’s possible that the media keeps asking him about it and he is talking about the fluidity of major league bullpens.
But I’d be much more contented by an answer like “We are very happy with our major league bullpen. While we are always on the lookout for ways to improve the team in any position, we have greater positions of need.”
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Maybe he says that because with our RPs lately, you never know who will be any good from year to year. They dont always carry success over to the next season. Or maybe he is trying to fool fans into thinking its a need, because a RP is something he can fit in his budget… It wasnt the offense, it was the bullpen we needed to improve. I dont know.
by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Or maybe he really believes he needs to update the bullpen. Every year he believes he needs to update the bullpen why should 2012 be any different. No one has traded for more relief pitchers then Ned Colletti since he took office. How many of these bullpen additions have worked out compared to just letting the farm do the job?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah I agree, he shouldnt sign anyone for the pen, outside of a minor league invite or whatever.
by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
sounds like an article
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 27, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
No one has traded for more relief pitchers then Ned Colletti since he took office
Hawksworth, Link, Sherrill, Baez, Carter. I feel like I’m missing someone.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
you asked
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 27, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Tim Hamulack
Danys Baez
Lance Carter
Ben Kozlowski
BJ La Mura
Elmer Dessens
Dwayne Pollock
Eric Krebs
Harvey Garcia
George Sherrill
Proctor
Jon Link
Dotel
Hawksworth
Juan Rodriquez
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Other then Sherrill I think you’d be hard pressed to say he’s had success.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, the Link trade qualifies as a success.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
This is mostly a junkyard list of junk that the junkyard man didn’t even want, yet everyone involved a player on our major league roster except for the Travon deal that netted scrapmetal.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
I was definitely in favor of the Theriot for Hawk deal
and continued to be. Even though Hawksworth fell off a bit towards the end of the season I won’t criticize Ned on that one. Most of the other acquisitions other than yeah Sherrill and Hawk were pretty garbagey. Dodgers have proven that their best relievers come from within the system + scrap heap NRI type guys and the occasional Saito type find. Not sure why he continues to not learn from that history. Adding more depth to the pen in general is not a bad idea. But again, better to do that from within + hope for NRI gold.
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Harvey Garcia is the one name I don’t recognize at all. What was that trade?
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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
I think he was in the D Young to Pirates for Krebs and Garcia. They all blur together
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
And here I thought we only got Krebs. I’ve been selling Ned short.
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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Upon further review, it was just Krebs (and one dollar) for Young.
Harvey Garcia was a separate minor league deal.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Maynard G. Krebs
is the kind of player that you just have to get if you have the opportunity
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
I need to look in my old emails…I think Garcia may have been a separate minor deal, with the return for Young being Krebs and $1
by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
BRef had them lumped together so I went with that.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
B-Ref has the trade as Krebs and Garcia for Young.
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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I have an email from the Dodgers that says differently
by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Did we send the $1 we got from the Pirates back to them for Garcia later in the evening thus making it two separate deals?
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Garcia is worth about a $1
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
But But
I keep hearing in the world series how great Dotel is. How could we let him go?
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Ya know, if we had gotten to the World Series like the Cardinals did who looked even deader than us, we would probably be singing the praises of Dotel.
He’s a fine relief pitcher, we just didn’t need him. However what the Cardinals did in Sept will always be pointed to by those of us who don’t want to give up.
That said I’d simply have used McDonald in relief.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
And Phil's favorite
Boom Boom for Proctor
by silverwidow on Oct 27, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I did this list last year when I reviewed every deal Ned made and it seemed like relievers were involved in many of them. Also minor league relief pitchers.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Scrapmetal
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 27, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Who will definitely be in the 2012 bullpen?
Off the top of my head, we’ve got:
Jansen
Guerra
Elbert
Lindblom
Guerrier
If we have a 5 man bench, that should leave 2 more spots in the bullpen if i’m not mistaken. Get Macdougal or someone like him, and then give a spot to one of the young kids like St Clair, Tolleson, or Ames and the bullpen is good.
Am I forgetting anyone?
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Hawksworth
Forgot about him, so that’s 6 bullpen spots, leaving 1 spot left (if my line of thinking is correct).
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They will bring in at least 4 someone-like-MacDougals and expect one of them will earn a job. Last year in camp, there was also Lolance Cormier, Ron Mahay, Juan Rincon, Tim Redding, Dana Eveland, Merkin Valdez, Roman Colon and probably a few other pitchers I’m forgetting that have pitched in the major leagues. Most of them just disappeared. That is SOP in the bigs. That is not what Ned means by doing something about the ’pen.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
How many spots did this team really need last year though
Kuo, Broxton, Padilla, Kenley I believe were the only for sure people in the bullpen. They added Guerrier for 3 years, traded for Hawksworth, signed Mac, signed Cormier.
This was the opening day bullpen, just minus Padilla it looks like from this link:
Padilla was added shortly after I believe. So there were 3 spots that needed to be filled from the sure spots of Kenley, Kuo, Broxton, and Padilla from the year before. I think there will be the scrap heap effect like every year, just not as many as last year for relief.
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In the video linked, Ned is prepared to offer in his opinion “strong dollars” to Kemp.
by silverwidow on Oct 27, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
So Canadian money. Interesting theory.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
ha
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
I am slightly over caffeinated, gussied up in a coat and tie, ready to leave for a sales call in 10 minutes
I loved how geeked up I am feeling right now. Want to run through a fucking wall to win that business. I love when I love what I am doing. I love it now.
Or on the streets. Because everyone knows what that means in L.A.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
hell yeah son, we dont play out hurr… But you cant be any geek off the street, gotta be handy with the steel if you know what I mean, earn your keep! Regulators! mount up!
by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Unless your enemy has studied his Agrippa. Which I have.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
nice
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 27, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
TWRS
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Quick, non-poll poll
Yes or no: the Dodgers will sign a free agent this offseason who was also on the Sporting News National League All-Star team with Kemp and Kershaw.
no
Pujols isn’t there. :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 27, 2011 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes, Phil has, which is why Phil made comment. Which is why Phil updated Book thoughts.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
I thought it was Native American stereotype Phil
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 27, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
hee came hee seop'd he choi'd - you be right
I confused the 9th inning double by Boom Boom in the 9th against Wagner with the Martin’s rally killing single.
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I think I’ve done that before and been corrected before. I’ll probably do it again in two years.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
(pencils it in)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 27, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
not sure why I remember that so well
but Kent, Betemit and Martin stick out in my mind as the only players who hit worth a damn in that series. Betemit also had the only HR iirc..
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 27, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
and Loney, who walked in his only PA in the first two games, then started and went 3 for 4 in Game 3.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
he was just getting his feet wet so he’d be ready in 2008
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Nah, but you can’t deny how Boom Boom Betemit flows
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Eric - is Humma right, SB Nation searches are only working from July 2011 forward?
Seems to be the case
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I hope they fix this. Then again a real search engine would be nice.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
did i miss discussion of this in a prior thread:
@BillShaikin
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McCourt divorce settlement set for court approval Nov 14. Deal has no contingencies, so not affected if Frank agrees to sell before then.
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Settlement?!?
sorry cant read
confused by number of court cases, missed that it was divorce not bankrupcy
by MammothDodger on Oct 27, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Good news everyone!
“Sunday’s Game 4 averaged a 4.2 rating/11 share in adults 18-49 and 15.16 million viewers overall – enough to top NBC’s Sunday Night Football (5.2/13, 12.47m) in total viewers but not the demo. Game 5 on Monday of the current week (4.2/11, 14.32m) held steady, handily beating ESPN’s Monday Night Football (3.3/9, 7.47m for Ravens-Jaguars)”
Baseball wins!
Football is dying.
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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
to be fair to football
that’s quadruple what Fox did for Saturday baseball game of the week, and the Super Bowl gets like a 60 share. But still! The casual sports fan has chosen to watch-a the baseball over bad football!
by Josie Becker on Oct 27, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
There were tons of articles about how baseball is dying when football out drew it, so this is only fair.
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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
if not dead
and if Detroit loses, it will be dead to me
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
For perspective – is this unusual? I don’t really follow rating, not being snide.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Nice spin job even though this is the lowest rated World Series in history.
"It's a five letter word, S-T-R-I-K-E."
ah
perspective
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
the worst rated World Series in history outdraws uncompetitive football!
by Josie Becker on Oct 27, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
There's no way this can be worse than the 05 series
That was just so awful.
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The World Series where every game was decided by one run?
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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
That's a good aspect
the bad aspect was it was between the Chicago White Sox and the Houston Astros, two teams that did not appeal to me in any way to watch, and I thought was the worst rated WS.
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Baseball will draw a worse rating when it’s opposite something other than Mr. Ed and the test patter with an Indian.
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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Will they get enough of a boost from a Game 6 and/or Game 7 to be not worst?
by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
2006 Cardinals vs. Detroit Tigers was the least-watched World Series in modern history, earning an average of 15.8 million viewers and a Nielsen rating of 10.1.
Game 4 drew 15.16….so 2011 will definitely need a game 7 to do better
by Josie Becker on Oct 27, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
I think a Game 7 on Friday would almost guarantee that. But, it could be close.
"It's a five letter word, S-T-R-I-K-E."
you have to go back to 1997 Marlins – Indians for a Game six that didn’t do around 20 mill viewers. So game six will tell us a lot
by Josie Becker on Oct 27, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
lol come on, it was Saints vs the winless Colts, Colts lost 66-7 or something.
by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah Sunday *and* Monday were two terrible, terrible games in a row.
While NFL usually wins, in this case it’s not a huge surprise.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I wonder if it’ll be more like the HBO documentary in The Fighter, or the don’t do drug videos I watched in elementary school
by Josie Becker on Oct 27, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
finally got around to watching that movie last night. Very good.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 27, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
The Fighter
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 27, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m still wondering how they did that movie about a time in his career that didn’t involve his trilogy with Gatti.
Really good movie, though.
wahlberg wants to do that in a sequel
I had assumed going in that that would be featured in the movie in some way, but the movie was so good I completely forgot about it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fighter#Sequel
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
The best part about this is that my comment was a joke.
Wow.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
I read that. I would be very interested in seeing that movie. And those fights
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 27, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I remember them showing them on TV
but I can’t remember if it was because of the movie or when they found Gatti dead.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 27, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Perhaps the Kemp and the Dodgers would consider a seven-year deal that pays Kemp $15MM in 2012 and $20MM in each of the following six seasons for a seven-year total of $135MM.
.
DO IT!
or not, fuck I cant figure it out. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/10/matt-kemps-agent-talks-extension-.html
by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
I knew that if you applied that USC education, you could figure it out.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
ha my work computer sucks, yeah, im blaming my work computer!
by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think anyone here would so no to such a deal.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
If only Matt Kemp were here.
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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Brian Cashman is posting under regfairfield’s handle
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Oct 27, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s why I only look to free agents to improve the team
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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
More than Werth, and it’s only slightly less than Crawford because the first year is not in free agency.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Looking back, the Crawford deal was a fleece. What were his main selling points? Triples, speed, defense [in left field!], durability. Kemp’s gonna be at the table talking home runs and batting average. I’m starting to get scared thinking about what it would take.
And that package equals a five or six win player.
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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
His fielding won’t be the same, his WAR will suffer
by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
defense is important at any position
Being 10 runs better then everyone at your position is invaluable how?
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Eric made a good case for him a year ago
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Kemp will actually be elite over the course of the contract.
We won’t be paying him for his past accomplishments.
get it done!
by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
@MelissaSeguraSI Heard 2-2.5 million cap per team for international signing on table for labor talks
This helps us because the Dodgers haven’t paid for Dominican talent in ages, but this seems like a good excuse for athletes in Latin America to play soccer instead.
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On baseball’s side: less chance you’ll be murded if you screw up during a game.
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Oct 27, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
isn't
the split pretty evenly Caribbean: baseball Central America: Soccer?
by Josie Becker on Oct 27, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m sure things can change if there was much more money in soccer.
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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
the money
in North American soccer is in playing the US and Mexico. Jamaica has a good soccer team, but DR, Puerto Rico, Cuba, not so much.
by Josie Becker on Oct 27, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Chicken and the egg. If there was more money in soccer, they’d get a better soccer team.
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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I was told by a reliable source the only kids who play soccer are the one who sucked at baseball
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Lionel Messi throws like Bababooey
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Oct 27, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Probably with the exception of Venezuela
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Oct 27, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Heard this
Melissa Segura is Spanish for Buster Olney
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I kind of enjoy teams who get fleeced like this. The highest order of sting
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
If they could only carbon date a human
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
they probably could
with a standard deviation of 15 years
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Right, cutting off a limb and counting the circles would be more accurate
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Chips in the brain
no one would object to that would they?
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Even with all my relief pitcher paranoia if Ned actually sings someone good like Betancourt or Belisle I would put away my pitch fork.
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a loogy would be nice. Maybe they can let Elbert pitch some high leverage innings
by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Please no Belisle
we already have a belisle named Guerrier
53% GB rate
Excellent command
Decent dominance
Just saying I wouldn’t complain
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Sure, then I’d complain unless we unloaded Guerrier. You know me, three year relief pitcher deals are ridic for 95% of the relief pitchers available to sign a contract.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, we are on the same page. Not a fan of paying non dominant relievers. I do like Belisle though.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Aramis Ramirez: Marlins
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA hold on out of breath HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
new stadium, they will sign someone decent this offseason
by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
and third base
is a hole in Florida, fewest HRs from that position in the NL (6)
by Josie Becker on Oct 27, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm sure when reg finishes stiching his sides back together
he’ll explain
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 27, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Less money for Aramis = more money for Jeff Loria.
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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
They’re going to get the attendance boost anyway, so why bother with a competitive team.
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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
They look like a competitive team to me. Adding Aramis would be a perfect fit for them.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Losing Josh Johnson who was on a Cy Young pace hurt a bit as did a terrible year from one of the best hitters position wise in baseball.
I’d think a team with
Josh Johnson, Nolasco, Sanchez, Sanchez, Morrison, Stanton, Hanley is a team to be reckoned with. Add in Aramis and the can make some noise in a very tough division.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
They’re a 72-90 team losing a key player. They need Hanley to bounce back, Johnson to be healthy, and someone else to break out to even think about contending.
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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, Josh will be healthy, Hanley will bounce back, so the break out would probably be Morrison not being dicked around. Then add in Aramis and I think we meet your criteria for contending.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
new stadium and hes still gonna keep the payroll at 20 million dollars or however small it was? I don’t buy that
by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
They’ll spend money, but it will probably on things like Javier Vazquez.
I’m not expecting the Marlins to suddenly open their pocket books out of the goodness of their hearts.
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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
spending money on Javier Vazquez is not a bad thing
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Sure, but I meant the money will go to guys getting one year contracts, not the massive commitment Aramis will want.
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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
4/60 has to be the max for him don’t you think. I think they can swing that easily enough going into a new stadium.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Someone needs to make the flamingos dance.
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by Nolij on Oct 27, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
then no one will come to the stadium after the first year. Loria can’t fuck the city out of 100s of millions of dollars and not spend money. He can but its not gonna go well for him
by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
He made 40 million in 2008 in a beat ass stadium no one went to.
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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Matt Dominguez will hit 12 next year will giving the NL a glimpse of what real 3rd base defense looks like.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Hanley should be their 3rd baseman but thats a different story all together
by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Ozzie said he's considered it
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 27, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I believe the exact quote was, “Yeah, I’ve fucking considered it. What the fuck do you think I have been doing this whole time, enjoying my wife’s cooking? I love that woman, but she can’t cook for shit, so all I’ve been doing is eating takeout while looking at every piece of shit on this roster. Hanley sucked last season, and if he wants to play he’ll do what the hell I say. Also, fuck you.”
by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
“Also, I loved watching Sean Casey take BP on MLB Tonight, lol.”
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 27, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
guess that means
they figure Pujols stays put
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 27, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah, and that CC will opt and out resign
by Josie Becker on Oct 27, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Cool, that leaves Beltran for the Dodgers:)
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
The Nats will sign Fielder and Reyes if they can
by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I kind of had Pujols to Cubs and Prince to Nat’s. Reyes makes so much sense for the Giants, just not sure they have the budget for him.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
do the Angels really have the money for Wilson? Plus they already have two “aces”
by eitherethier on Oct 27, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Don’t know if they have the money but CJ would plug in nicely after Haren/Weaver before Santana.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Angels really don’t have anywhere to put a position player except catcher, and there’s none of those on the market.
Trading Trumbo or Escobar is they can make room for a free agent position player that would help them, but that just strains an already bloated payroll further. Wilson is the only guy they can get that would be a big improvement.
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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Escobar?
is Kelvin still playing:)
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow. I think I went Kendry=Kelvin=Escobar there. The Angels really need to trade someone at this point because they’re looking at:
1B – Trumbo
2B – Kendrick
SS – Aybar
3B – Izturis
LF – Wells
CF – Bourjous
RF – Hunter
DH – Abreu
While still needing to make room for Morales and Trout. DFA Vernon wells is a great place to start but that will never happen
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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Sort of. Right now the Angels problem is their roster is overloaded with mediocrity. None of these guys are bad enough where you can improve on them easily but they’re not good enough to win. It’s the JP Riccardi problem.
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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
This is why I advocate getting one really good player instead of a bunch of mediocre ones.
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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
That team could use Aramis Ramirez:)
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Barajas or Hernandez would fit in nicely with the Angels being that Conger hits left handed.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Morales is gonna get non-tendered. Or I’ll least say it until he doesn’t
by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d say no way but what would his arbitration amount look like?
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
3.5ish.
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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
No way I’d non tender him then.
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
He made $2.975 million in 2011 and didn’t play a single inning. I wonder what the sample of arb guys who missed a whole year is. Hard to see a raise.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Unless the Angels feel he’ll never play again, I don’t see how they could non – tender him at that price.
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Much has been made of the Wells trade but the Abreu extension was also a huge whiff. We all know that the Hunter deal would eventually be a problem but at least they got good work from it.
Has the fired GM done any thing of note other then signing Weaver to a great extension? Most of the good work came before his time, all of the bad work came during his time, including the sacking of the minor league guru who provided him most of the good things he got to work with.
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While I definitely agree it was a huge win and for a team in division contention
Skaggs is kicking ass in the minors and Saunders is around average or just below I believe.
That said, again, big win.
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Repko got a raise in a year where he had 4 PA, so I think he’d get a small one.
Maybe do Trumbo to the Rays for Jeff Neimann and a little something else, sign CJ Wilson, DFA Mathis and Wells?
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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Rays will be one of the few teams to realize Kotchman is a better value then the power hitting only Trumbo.
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I don’t know if they can afford him.
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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I am very curious what he gets, you don’t see his scenario very often.
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I’d say 1/4-5. I think enough teams can see that the only difference between 2009 and 2010 is 110 points of BABIP that there will be a market.
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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Is his defense still elite? Or was that a myth in the first place? Not that I’m going to trust whatever you tell me:)
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-4 from 2010-2011, +22 before that.
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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
once he found out you didn’t have to pay those tickets
by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I just saw something about Grand Theft Auto 5
there will be a trailer released for it on November 2nd. I’m so stoked, hopefully it’s not as boring and repetitive as GTA4.
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aren’t they all like that? “Take this thing to that place.”
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 27, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
The other games did a better job of not making it seem like the same exact mission over and over
I hope you can actually do something with your money this time. All he kept saying was “ok i’ll do it, but you better pay me” and money was rarely used for anything.
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Honestly if Vice City or San Andreas were brought to the PS3
I’d be in heaven and i’d go nuts playing them both. Both of them were just so fun. I’ve never played other games more and did pretty much nothing with so much excitement. GTA 4 looked awesome, but there wasn’t all that much to do. San Andreas’s story wasn’t the greatest, but the sheer amount of different areas, different vehicles (including jets and jetpacks, which were both so awesome), and different activities made it worth playing over and over. The gang wars in LA were so sweet too.
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shoulda called it
GTA4: GUNS, CARD AND PLAYDATES
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 27, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
they all where like that
there needs to be a way to cut through the BS missions and just finish the story.
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All you had to do was follow the damn train!
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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
and checkpoints
if hte game had checkpoints it would be 10 times better
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yes
its super crazy though, hard to tell whats going on sometimes
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I can't fly a jet for shit
those 64 player matches are intense. my computer refuses to run it so I’ve been going console which totally blows
I’m going to get it no matter what, but im kinda surprised at the reviews its getting… it currently has an average review on 8.3 in 10 different reviews… I thought forsure it would get over 9… between 9 and 9.5…. commercials just look so insane.
no they just try to bully them
if you think EA doesn’t participate in the same dickery everyone else does I do’nt know what to say
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Its too much driving is the problem, you finish one mission, then you gotta go all the way across town to start the next mission, then all the way across town again to do mission, then sometimes you gotta drive the truck full of stolen stuff across town again without blowing it up…. I think there should be some way to skip some of the driving, or have the missions closer together… I dont need it to be that realistic.
I stopped playing Read Dead because im sick of riding this dam horse for hours, with like 5-10 mins of actual killing people.
ha, yeah I couldnt get myself to skin animals man, I would honestly feel bad… killing people is no problem though
It would be awesome if USCris0304 was really a cover name for Ken Tremendous which is already a cover name
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 27, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
That's a mistake
RDR was one of the greatest games ever. It really kicked the crap out of GTA 4.
Vice City
San Andreas
Red Dead Redemption
Assassin’s Creed 1, 2, Brotherhood
Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 1 and 2
MVP Baseball 2005
Wrestlemania 2000
Spiderman The Movie Game 2
Batman: Arkham City
This is a list of the best games (to me) I’ve ever played. Loving all of these games so much, I’d say that RDR probably has the most stuff you can do out of all of them that are the most fun to do.
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yeah I still have it, so maybe I’ll resume play. Alot of those games you list get knocked for repetitive gameplay, so it seems you are into repetitive gameplay… thats cool though… Im really into shooters, just love the no stop action of killing people non stop haha
He liked AssCreed 1
of course he is into repetetive gameplay
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is there a person on the planet who didn't think asscreed 1 was repetitive?
asscreed 2 on has been great
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I have number 2 sitting on my shelf, never played it. the first one turned me off, so I would agree.
Make sure to get AC: Brotherhood
I thought it was just a side game, but it actually progresses the story in a major way.
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I wasn't entirely happy with bro hood
you could tell in a few places that the game had been made in a shorter dev cycle, and the “main” story for the game was just not as interesting. It was still an overall good game, but not as good as 2. Having a hard time to get hyped for revelations, they need to let the series come up for air
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I agree it would be better most likely with 2 years instead of 1 to make it
But i’m stoked that I get a new one every year and it’s not just Madden’ed.
Revelations has Ezio finishing his story up which I’m a fan of, we never got that from Altair, thought this one will go back to that a bit which is cool.
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Take it to the hate thread
you’re bashing my favorite gaming franchise ever, not a good thing to do with me, lol.
Assassin’s Creed is more than just awesome gameplay with a unique style, it has the best story throughout the games of any game/series I’ve ever seen. There are so many ways to kill someone, you can be stealth and kill from far, or just run in and get into a huge sword fight or knife fight. I love it.
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sorry for being critical of something you like
for entirely valid reasons
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You bring up one aspect of the franchise that has improved (which you said later on)
You seem to be very one dimensional when it comes to games.
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I'm not criticizing the series
I’m criticizing that specific game. How does that make me one dimensional? A game being repetitive can easily ruin the whole thing.
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Because you're focusing on one part when there were so many great parts
Depending on how bad something is I agree it can ruin it, but I disagree in this case.
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you disagree
but its almost universally considered a huge huge huge issue with the game and has prevented many people from even bothering to try the sequels.
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Gamespot gave it a 9
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/assassins-creed/index.html?tag=result%3Btitle%3B7
I trust a lot of their rankings and to give it a 9 I think that really means despite the repetitive nature it’s well worth the play.
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are you fucking serious?
stop being such a fanboy for one second jimminy cricket. ONE REVIEW is your entire argument? From Gamespot no less! Holy fucking shit I don’t even know what to say.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamespot#Gerstmann_dismissal
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its great that you like it
but I don’t see why its so hard for you to acknowledge the repetivness was a game breaking issue for a lot of people.
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Maybe you should stop freaking the fuck out as well
I’m telling you how I feel about it and you’re doing the same, i’m not telling you how you should feel, i’m giving you counterpoints to your fucking opinion.
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I think he freaked out because you used one review to back up your claim. That one review being from Gamespot really didn’t help either.
I’m not sure why you are so defensive about the game. I know a number of people who love the series and every single one of them would agree with Nolander here. It’s not as if only a small niche group of people felt this way. Pretty much everybody did and that includes most that love the series.
What about the Halo series? It gets such great reviews everytime, but I cant get into it at all. It was one of the reasons I bought a xbox too, but didnt like it. Love the Gears of War series though.
I love halo
but it isn’t perfect. Love gears of war too
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Halo 2 was good. 3 was fun online. I didn’t like the first one much
by eitherethier on Oct 27, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Where I was going with my comment on the Gamespot review is there are probably 20 other places I’d go for a review before I went to Gamespot. Going there is often like going to a companies own PR person to find out what they think.
Speaking of online, all you guys play online? I like games for the story mode, I cant get into the online gaming, thats seems alot more for the younger generation.
Online console gamers are one mysoginitic, homophobic, mean spirited lot.
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Oct 27, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
WoW is the one big game I play online but I doubt it’s something I’d pick up and start playing now. I’ve been playing it since it released so I’ve known a lot of the people I play with for 6 years or so. I play other games through Steam but I usually only play with people I know.
I play Starcraft 2 regularly, it’s a pretty mellow player pool, but the Xbox crowd? Lots of dickheads.
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Oct 27, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I was in the Starcraft 2 F&F Alpha and also the Beta. I played it a bunch then but didn’t have the money at the time to buy the game.
I wouldn’t go anywhere near the shallow end of the pool that is the Xbox crowd.
wait, I play xbox… Is that a shot at xbox online gamers or anyone that plays xbox?? Dont start a system war!
The Xbox Live crowd. The same goes for most people on the internet.
I’ve always thought people that argue over which system is better needs to stop playing video games and go experience the real world.
yeah I was kidding. I think the system wars is dumb too, who cares, people like what they like. But I guess some people have to feel better about what system they have by ripping the system you have if its different.
This is America. You can’t just like what you like without somebody that likes something else being wrong about it.
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Oct 27, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Full circle sucks. Full square is where it’s at.
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Oct 27, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
this a straight-edge thing?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 27, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
No. The X’s on my hands were too distracting.
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Oct 27, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Circle gets the square.
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Shadow Stevens for the block!
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Oct 27, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I had PS1, and PS2, wanted PS3 but I was sooo upset when they released so few, and was impossible to get for so long. People selling PS3 on ebay for a billion dollars, so I said fuck it and bough 360 and gears of war. I know its not realistic, but these companies shouldnt release systems until they have enough for everybody.
He is saying it being repetitive ruined the first game
which i very much disagree with. It made it not as good as the next 2, but didn’t kill the game.
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no you ass
Again, i’m not telling you i’m right, i’m telling you there are many others who don’t think the game is ruined by what you think about the game.
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Okay that’s your opinion. That’s fine. You are making it sound like your opinion is how the majority of people perceived the game though. Nolander isn’t saying your opinion is wrong. He’s just saying you are one of few that feel that way. Him saying that has made you come back overly defensive as if he’s bashing you or something.
I got no dog in this fight, but Assassin’s Creed ranks pretty low on my favorite ‘Creeds.’ It below Apollo and the Nicene, but it’s definitely above Creed.
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Oct 27, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
It ranks second on my list of Assassins though, right behind the Sondheim musical and ahead of actual assassins.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I think I liked the Antonio Banderas/Sly Stallone movie slightly more.
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Oct 27, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
If it was as big of an issue as he is making it
there wouldn’t be 3 games with a 4th coming out soon and a 5th next year. If it was really that bad people wouldn’t have been interested enough for there to be so many sequels.
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if you insist on sticking your head in the sand
theres nothing anyone can do to stop you
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Sticking my head in the sand?
You’re burying this game on one concept, which isn’t even that bad. It’s still fun, even if you do it a lot.
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If I remember correctly, you could press triangle to make Altair put his head in the sand when he got tired of doing the same thing over and over?
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Oct 27, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
You act like there has to be something wrong with it
Is there any reason why I can’t have enjoyed playing a game I believe to be great? If I had played AC2 first, then I wouldn’t have appreciated AC1 nearly as much, but that’s fine, because I don’t play in some backwards ass order.
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I can name many horrible games that have big enough cult followings to where they were able to make more games in the series. A number of those games actually learn from their mistakes and make a better game the second time around which draws in even more people. Those people that were drawn in by the sequels then go back to try the first game and hate it.
And that is where you get to where we are at in this conversation.
It’s important to remember too, Assassin’s Creed was one of the first big titles for PS3. It was pretty amazing when it came out, but subsequent games have really showed how lacking it was.
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Oct 27, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
The issues with it where known when it came out
there was a great game struggling to get out, and it burst out of its cocoon as asscreed2
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Asscreed 2: because we inadequately professed our belief in asses the first time around.
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Oct 27, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
This sub-thread
has amused me no end. I dread the day when the internet evolves enough so that you’ll be able to reach out and throttle people. Because, there’s gonna be some carnage.
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Flame wars. Now with real flames!
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Oct 27, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
That's my point, really
If you play it out of order you won’t enjoy the actual game play. If you play it first you will enjoy everything, even if you end up getting tired of the same motions over and over.
You may be right about cult followings, but as the first of the series, i’m not sure, if the repetitive nature was really such a game killer, it would have had the crowd to survive to even one sequel.
They most definitely got better as each game has gone on, which i’m definitely happy about. If it had stayed as the same gameplay, I wouldn’t have been as happy about the series, but playing the series in order as they came out it doesn’t make anything worse.
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If you really want to have some fun, tell a video game message board you didn’t like Final Fantasy 7
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Oct 27, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
and then have all of them agree with you
that its really outdated? Hating on FF7 is the new cool
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Yup, the inevitable contrarian backlash. Full disclosure, I’ve finished that game multiple times with every single materia at master level, all the optional quests and bosses beaten. I didn’t have a lot of friends.
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Oct 27, 2011 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
The Penultimate Fantasy was better.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Do they even know what the definition of ‘final’ is?
/seinfelded
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Oct 27, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
it doesn't help that it snot many years old
most people just don’t like JRPGs anymore
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Yeah there is a lot of stuff repetetive
But luckily most of the stuff you keep doing is really fun. Vice City and San Andreas I could just do pretty much anything to keep myself entertained. One of my favorite things to do was to try and crash fast cars in the most destructive ways possible. Hours of fun right there.
The Assassin’s Creed games have a good amount of repetitive nature, but since the first one they have been doing a really good job of improving upon that.
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So you turned GTA into Angry Birds.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I'm surprised Burnout isn't one of his favorite games
finding the jumps wsa tons of fun in GTA3
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I liked the arcade games that had the non-traditional controls. Tempest spinner, Track and Field buttons, Paperboy handlebars ftmfw.
I got Burnout Paradise
and hated it. Just driving is no fun to me.
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After I finished missions and all the rest
yeah. I’ve never played angry birds.
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Jesus h christ Nolander
are you just trying to dump on everything? I feel like you’re trying to troll this entire conversation, lol.
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I haven't played it so i'm not sure, though I did hear it was like a movie
I’d be cool with that if it’s a compelling story, as long as it’s not more cutscenes than game play.
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the cutscenes are not good
honestly its just… theres a cultural barrier there I think
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if you never played any other games in the series, you’ll have zero idea whats going.
Even the PSP games had story lines that intertwined with the console series
its not an issue of understanding
the dialog and “humor” was just bad, and it needed a heavy dose of editing. Its not all bad, but the ponderous pace made it so hard to get through
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With the number of games out there
and the amount of time it takes to play them, I expect a lot from my games
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
One of my favorite all time baseball games was Bases Loaded for NES… I loved it because if you beaned the star player for the other team, he would charged the mound, grab your head, and punch it a few times… Only baseball game I have ever seen with that detail in it…
I still play RDR
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
I've never played that series
I had a PS1, but the only memorable game series I remember from those were the Tony Hawk 1-3 games, notably 2.
It’s mostly PS2 and PS3 that had the games I loved most.
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your PS3 should play Resident Evil
Turn off the lights, get a couple beers in you and play that shit all night
now way!! awesome news…. is it going to be released on current systems though, or the next generation cuz I hear the new xbox, ps could be released here in 2012??
by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope the setting is in the valley, I wanna live my fantasy ramming slow drivers from behind, shooting them, or simply just blowing them up… oh and blowing up food trucks with a missle launcher would be the sweetest thing ever!!!
by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
sweet!, Rumor is it is going to be set in LA.
by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Those consoles are gonna be so damned expensive.
Are you the one talking about BF3 a few days ago
by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
yes I was, still havent gotten it yet though… but BF3, the new Batman, and CODMW3 are all I want for christmas, then im probably done buying games for a while, until I find out forsure when the new systems come out…. and whats going on with that.
by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Batman is freaking awesome
One of the 5 best games I’ve ever played. MW3 is sure to be on that list come november, also Assassin’s Creed: Revelations.
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I haven't heard anything about new systems in 2012
I thought new gen would still be a few years away.
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not just yet
theyre still trying to milk the current cycle.. thats what kinect and move was supposed to assist with, even tho theyre stupid kiddie crap.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 27, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Other reports have surfaced about the expected launch date of Microsoft’s rumored Xbox 720 coming in 2013. Develop, a video game website, had several sources claim the console could arrive at the E3 gaming expo in June 2013.
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Ok, so its 2013 then…
by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
In addition to David Eckstein throwing the ceremonial first pitch tonight, the Cardinals will have Vince Coleman “deliver the game ball” along with a member of the Boys & Girls Club.
Watch out for that tarp!
More hype
evansilva
ESPN’s Todd McShay on #Stanford QB: “I’ve never seen a guy at Andrew Luck’s level. … Luck has a chance to be an all-time special player.”
The sport of football is filled with things Todd McShay hasn’t seen.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
He's the greatest prospect I've ev
Squirrel!
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
by mleadman on Oct 27, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
What is so special about luck?!
i dont get all the hype
He’s very good, for a cross-dresser. He’ll be a lady tonight.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
by Nolij on Oct 27, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Cardinals lineup
Furcal SS
Schumaker CF
Pujols 1B
Berkman RF
Holliday LF
Freese 3B
Molina C
Punto 2B
García P
I’ve built a $53,000,000 team with $31,000,000 belonging to players no longer on the team. An exercise to see what you could do if an owner said cut payroll to $50,000,000, but build me an exciting team with a future. Though I suspect many would doubt it has a future if they saw it. This went through about 1,000 iterations.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
It will be the second post of the Rosterbation exercise, I think I’ll call it DynamiteBation in honer of all those folk who would like a team blown up and built all over.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
My guess
Kemp, Ethier, Billingsley, Guerrier, Lilly are all gone. Possibly Loney.
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Everyone over 25 had to go but Kershaw and the bullpen. However on the plus side:
1. 2012 Number one Pick
2. Matt Kemp said he’d be happy to sign a Free Agent contract with the new owner Magic Johnson
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Prediction: that team will be terrible.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, but we will have the 2012 number one pick:)
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Batting third, Jason Heyward?
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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
This really makes me want to download Baseball Mogul and go crazy
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Rangers lineup
Kinsler 2B
Andrus SS
Hamilton LF
Young 1B
Beltre 3B
Cruz RF
Napoli C
Gentry CF
Lewis P
For all the Michael Young doubters when the season started (he was the target of some trade speculation), batting cleanup and playing 1b in Game 6 of the World Series is not bad.
That trade speculation started when he demanded a trade.
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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I've always been a big fan of his
I know he’s expensive but i’d love to trade for him at a reduced salary for 3B or 2B next season.
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Nice bat
barely seems able to play 1st base these days much less 2nd or 3rd.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I haven't seen much of him
and I’m sure we wouldn’t like his defense, but I know his bat is good for 185+ hits which I know this team could use with some decent to good power.
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He’d have to play first. If you regress him to his career BABIP he OPSes about .810 this year in Texas. Convert that to Dodger Stadium you’re looking at something in the mid .700s. If he repeats 2010, you’ve got Loney with worse defense.
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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
BTW Eric,
great photo of our two miners
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Game 7 or does MLB crown the franchise from Texas for the first time ever?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
it ends tonight. I had a dream that it did.
by eitherethier on Oct 27, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, the day I play a video game it will be the first time, I peaked with pong
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Loved Frogger
Also Pitfall and River Raid FTMFW.
And the ET game can go fuck itself.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2011 2:48 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Oops I fell in the pit. Shit I can’t get out. What fun.
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Oct 27, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
haha, when people bring up the Z key, is it basically a nice way of trying to let people know they cant stand whats being talked about?
It’s more about being bored by long subthreads than not standing them — video games, movies, food, etc. that don’t appeal to everybody.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
dam, food doesnt appeal to everybody? yeah I see what your saying, but not all baseball stuff appeals to everyone either right? even though it is a baseball thread though. But some stuff is over the top.
You haven’t seen over the top until you have seen what we have to come up during the winter. Eric wants two new articles a day and if he does not get them, he brings out the whip.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Yeah I bet, thats what I was alluding to. In general, on most baseball blogs, current baseball news gets slow, and so some stuff feels forced… Maybe the majority of the reader base feeds off everything and anything baseball, but some dont, I dont think. But thats why I love it here, because it seems open to talk off topic stuff, as well as join in the baseball conversation when it appeals to you.
This is a baseball blog, after all. But I’m sure some people Z through when we wax poetic about Mike Davis or Bill Sudakis or whatever.
And everyone likes food, of course, but not everybody is keen on reading a dozen recipes for eggplant parmigiana or techniques of rendering bacon fat.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Just for that I’m going home tonight and cooking my hamburger in my bacon grease
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I love food
But I couldn’t care less about reading about it.
That’s how a lot of people feel about the video game, tv, movie, etc… discussions.
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I know you love video games Phil :)
Or even if you could understand how to play them :P
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Has anyone watched “Man Up” on ABC?
I watched the other night for the first time and thought it was pretty funny.
dude, im so excited for beavis and butthead tonight… I use to love that show, and that was pre Lincecum. Its only gonna be that much better on Lincecum.
That’s not Tim Allen’s show, is it?
Can you describe “Man up” in two sentences or less?
by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2011 2:07 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
That’s Last Man Standing.
Man Up probably won’t live long. So it probably doesn’t matter.
"It's a five letter word, S-T-R-I-K-E."
Any of the developers here have a Javascript date picker they like? There’s hundreds of options out there.
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jquery ui
but it doesn’t have a time component, but someone out there made one that includes a time component
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
That’s what I figured. Don’t want time so that’s great.
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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Take it to the hack thread
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
For the life of me I can’t figure out who next year’s 2b will be. Any competition that features a wounded Uribe, a free agent Carroll, an unproven Sellers, and a terrible DeJesus worries me. Couple that with the lack of quality free agent options . . . we just might have to swing a trade to get one.
I feel like Uribe will play 3rd 85% of the season
2B is a real mystery.
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Kelly Johnson (should’ve signed him a couple years ago), Clint Barmes, Mark Ellis, Aaron Hill?
My god, I feel like I could almost be convinced into giving the full-time job to Aaron Miles.
Johnson would work. Although I hate to add more .300 OBP players to the team…
by eitherethier on Oct 27, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Depending on how much he costs
I’d like to get Kelly Johnson. Mark Ellis would be a cool fielding option.
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I wouldn’t mind Aaron Hill, but his Arizona bounceback probably means he’ll command a biggish salary.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
He still ended up super shitty
I just checked the number expecting something better, but he was still so awful overall.
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Even Kevin Towers said publically that they weren’t gonna go crazy over 6 weeks of good play.
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Oct 27, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Reacquire Blake Dewitt.
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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
ultimate conclusion
It’s a tenuous balance, reinforced every time ESPN’s journalists prove their loyalty to the audience — but undermined every time the veil is pulled back on the contractual process. As the money in college football increases, the reasons for the audience to question ESPN’s loyalty will grow. As long as ESPN maintains its journalistic standards and increases reporting resources devoted to college sports — even as its business interests in colleges grows — the network should assuage most of its understandably skeptical critics.
by Josie Becker on Oct 27, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
basically
ESPN’s creditability is maintained by keeping the journalists separate from the business folk, but it’s not always smooth
by Josie Becker on Oct 27, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s the E, we’re talking about the S : )
by Josie Becker on Oct 27, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Does This Count As S

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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeremiah Bell is the realest man in the NFL.
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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
And to be fair, because Yeremiah Bell is a Dolphin Reggie Bush said Bell stinks via the transitive property.
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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s not the transitive property at all.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Reggie Bush “we [the Dolphins] stink”
Yeremiah Bell is a Dolphin
Q.E.D. Reggie Bush said Yeremiah Bell stinks
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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, but that’s not the transitive property, that’s the law of syllogism. Huh huh, I said gism.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Humma’s from Schenectady. That’s practically the same thing.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
your just mad I beat your five dollar word with a seven dollar word : )
by Josie Becker on Oct 27, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! wrote on Twitter that there are several signs the lockout could be on the verge of ending, including team executives cancelling scouting trips and preparing for free agency.
He also said that agents are starting to get involved with teams regarding free agents, and while this is all very good news, it’s important to remember that it could fall apart once they meet in large groups instead of small ones. And while there’s still some hope at getting in 82 games, that seems like a stretch to us especially as the owners would call it a victory if they didn’t have to pay the players for a full season. In any case, the level of optimism hasn’t been this high yet. The two small groups are still in meetings in New York as of now.
Heard this: final issue on the table- Billy Hunter and David Stern can’t agree on how little or how much the repetitive gameplay in Assassin’s Creed detracts from the overall quality of the game.
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Oct 27, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I had never seen, before now
Game 7 of the 1986 World Series, so I’d never seen how crazy Shea went at the end. Place got loud. I’d also never seen how sad Darryl Strawberry looked as the fans in Boston taunted Darryl in Game 5, and as such had never gotten the Simpsons’ joke until now : )
SI_JonHeyman
folks seem to think the nationals are going to make big play for cj wilson. $75-80M is best guess.
OH NO. What will Ned do now???!? :)
Offer 90 and make him a long man?
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Oct 27, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Bullpen shoreupping like a boss!
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I feel stupid cause I can’t recognize this guy
by lnickerson88 on Oct 27, 2011 3:54 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Strasberg
Wilson
Zimmerman
Lannan
Livan
Espinosa
Werth
Zimmermann
Morse
LaRoche
Ramos
Bernidina
Desmond
Add Bryce Harper to that and now you’ve got yourself a team.
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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, no way harper is ready. Isn’t he 18?
by lnickerson88 on Oct 27, 2011 3:55 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
With a good line drive and low BABIP.
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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s holding his own in the AFL and he turned 18 a week ago. Beasting in the first half and then getting called up isn’t out of the question.
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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
oh sure
defend another team’s prospects. :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 27, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
speculating is fun
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 27, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
What a guy
Boras told the Post that Soriano won’t exercise the opt-out clause in his three-year deal, thus remaining in pinstripes for 2012.
Soriano is set to earn $11 million next year and $14 million in 2013
anyone see
this vid of Griff Erickson on Dodgers.com?
Mostly talks about his Dad’s influence on him, but also gives some insight on his switch-hitting and some of the pitchers he’s caught.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 27, 2011 4:24 PM PDT reply actions
new thread?
or are we staying here?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 27, 2011 5:05 PM PDT reply actions
Move along
and talk about the Rangers winning their first championship.
http://www.truebluela.com/2011/10/27/2519432/world-series-game-6
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