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Matt Kemp & Clayton Kershaw Named To Sporting News NL All-Star Team

Clayton Kershaw and Matt Kemp both had plenty of reasons to celebrate in 2011.

The honors continue to roll in for Dodgers Matt Kemp and Clayton Kershaw, who on Thursday were named to the 2011 Sporting News National League All-Star team. Voting for the All-Star teams was done by league executives, and there were 29 National League front office members who voted on the NL team. Kemp was the only unanimous selection in the National League. Justin Verlander was the only unanimous selection for the American League.

Sporting News 2011 All-Star Teams
National League American League
C Brian McCann C Alex Avila
1B Prince Fielder 1B Adrian Gonzalez
2B Brandon Phillips 2B Robinson Cano
3B Aramis Ramirez 3B Adrian Beltre
SS Troy Tulowitzki SS Asdrubal Cabrera
OF Matt Kemp OF Jose Bautista
OF Ryan Braun OF Jacoby Ellsbury
OF Justin Upton OF Curtis Granderson
DH David Ortiz
SP Clayton Kershaw SP Justin Verlander
RP Craig Kimbrel RP Mariano Rivera

In addition to being named a Sporting News All-Star, Kemp has won the Baseball America Major League Player of the Year and the NL Hank Aaron Award. The Sporting News Player of the Year, voted on by major league players, will be announced tomorrow, and don't be surprised if Kemp takes home another honor.

Kemp was also a Sporting News NL All-Star in 2009.

Kershaw also won the Warren Spahn Award, an honor given to the top left-handed pitcher in MLB. The Baseball Writers' Association of America will announce the National League Cy Young winner on Thursday, November 17, and the NL Most Valuable Player on Tuesday, November 22.

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Colletti loves him some relief

As far as improvement for 2012, Colletti obviously can’t — and wouldn’t — talk about what players he might want to sign or acquire in a trade. The contract options on third baseman Casey Blake and pitcher Jon Garland weren’t exercised, but they could be signed later and for less than the combined $14 million they made in their injury-plagued 2011 seasons. The GM did say, though, that an important piece of the puzzle will be rebuilding the bullpen.

Former closer Jonathan Broxton is still a possibility to return, but with the emergence of strikeout machine Kenley Jansen and closer Javy Guerra, the team will primarily be looking for some front end help. Ideally, it would be Jansen and Guerra battling it out for the closer role, with the other becoming the set-up man. The seventh-inning bridge man could be a veteran Darren Oliver-type.

"Bullpens are the most fluid part of our sport right now," Colletti said. "But it’s also extremely important. Our starting pitching is excellent, and if we get Ruby de la Rosa (Tommy John surgery) back at some point, we have a chance to be the best rotation. But we need to keep our relievers healthy and make it so everyone knows their role every game.

"Things are going to get interesting in a couple of days."

by silverwidow on Oct 27, 2011 9:44 AM PDT reply actions  

I am inclined to think that last line just means free agency is about to become official, but maybe Ned has something in the works. :)

by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2011 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

CC can wear Broxton’s old jersey. Would probably fit him.

by fbihop on Oct 27, 2011 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

You know, I’m pretty quick to slam Colletti, but I don’t take his comments right now as anything more than media fodder. Whatever he’s going to do will have little to do with things he says now.

by kinbote on Oct 27, 2011 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought our bullpen was awesome?

then again Colletti is a depth man so who knows what he thinks is adequate.. maybe we’ll get another guerrier type of ‘proven reliever’ who isnt a type a..

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 27, 2011 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Colletti seems to have a bullpen fixation – I don’t get it.

by latenite on Oct 27, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I do not like how much Ned talks about the bullpen as a place for improvement, Sam I Am.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 27, 2011 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t like it here, nor like it there. I don’t like it anywhere.

by keithc13 on Oct 27, 2011 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

maybe hes just throwing the media a bone

its a relatively controversy free area of the team where he can speculate more than other, pricier positions?

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 27, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also, FA begins in a week. Will be an active period regardless of what he does.

by kinbote on Oct 27, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

And it’s possible that the media keeps asking him about it and he is talking about the fluidity of major league bullpens.

But I’d be much more contented by an answer like “We are very happy with our major league bullpen. While we are always on the lookout for ways to improve the team in any position, we have greater positions of need.”

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 27, 2011 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe he says that because with our RPs lately, you never know who will be any good from year to year. They dont always carry success over to the next season. Or maybe he is trying to fool fans into thinking its a need, because a RP is something he can fit in his budget… It wasnt the offense, it was the bullpen we needed to improve. I dont know.

by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or maybe he really believes he needs to update the bullpen. Every year he believes he needs to update the bullpen why should 2012 be any different. No one has traded for more relief pitchers then Ned Colletti since he took office. How many of these bullpen additions have worked out compared to just letting the farm do the job?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah I agree, he shouldnt sign anyone for the pen, outside of a minor league invite or whatever.

by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

sounds like an article

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 27, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

No one has traded for more relief pitchers then Ned Colletti since he took office

Hawksworth, Link, Sherrill, Baez, Carter. I feel like I’m missing someone.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tim Hamulack
Danys Baez
Lance Carter
Ben Kozlowski
BJ La Mura
Elmer Dessens
Dwayne Pollock
Eric Krebs
Harvey Garcia
George Sherrill
Proctor
Jon Link
Dotel
Hawksworth
Juan Rodriquez

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Other then Sherrill I think you’d be hard pressed to say he’s had success.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, the Link trade qualifies as a success.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 27, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is mostly a junkyard list of junk that the junkyard man didn’t even want, yet everyone involved a player on our major league roster except for the Travon deal that netted scrapmetal.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 27, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

But one of those players was Theriot, so I call that a win.

by fbihop on Oct 27, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was definitely in favor of the Theriot for Hawk deal

and continued to be. Even though Hawksworth fell off a bit towards the end of the season I won’t criticize Ned on that one. Most of the other acquisitions other than yeah Sherrill and Hawk were pretty garbagey. Dodgers have proven that their best relievers come from within the system + scrap heap NRI type guys and the occasional Saito type find. Not sure why he continues to not learn from that history. Adding more depth to the pen in general is not a bad idea. But again, better to do that from within + hope for NRI gold.

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by underdog on Oct 27, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Harvey Garcia is the one name I don’t recognize at all. What was that trade?

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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think he was in the D Young to Pirates for Krebs and Garcia. They all blur together

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

And here I thought we only got Krebs. I’ve been selling Ned short.

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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Upon further review, it was just Krebs (and one dollar) for Young.

Harvey Garcia was a separate minor league deal.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maynard G. Krebs

is the kind of player that you just have to get if you have the opportunity

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 27, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I need to look in my old emails…I think Garcia may have been a separate minor deal, with the return for Young being Krebs and $1

by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

BRef had them lumped together so I went with that.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

B-Ref has the trade as Krebs and Garcia for Young.

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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have an email from the Dodgers that says differently

by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Did we send the $1 we got from the Pirates back to them for Garcia later in the evening thus making it two separate deals?

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Garcia is worth about a $1

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

But But

I keep hearing in the world series how great Dotel is. How could we let him go?

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 27, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ya know, if we had gotten to the World Series like the Cardinals did who looked even deader than us, we would probably be singing the praises of Dotel.

He’s a fine relief pitcher, we just didn’t need him. However what the Cardinals did in Sept will always be pointed to by those of us who don’t want to give up.

That said I’d simply have used McDonald in relief.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

such an awful trade

Torre just had to finish the job.

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by Ivdown on Oct 27, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I did this list last year when I reviewed every deal Ned made and it seemed like relievers were involved in many of them. Also minor league relief pitchers.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Scrapmetal

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 27, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Who will definitely be in the 2012 bullpen?

Off the top of my head, we’ve got:

Jansen
Guerra
Elbert
Lindblom
Guerrier

If we have a 5 man bench, that should leave 2 more spots in the bullpen if i’m not mistaken. Get Macdougal or someone like him, and then give a spot to one of the young kids like St Clair, Tolleson, or Ames and the bullpen is good.

Am I forgetting anyone?

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by Ivdown on Oct 27, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hawksworth

Forgot about him, so that’s 6 bullpen spots, leaving 1 spot left (if my line of thinking is correct).

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by Ivdown on Oct 27, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

They will bring in at least 4 someone-like-MacDougals and expect one of them will earn a job. Last year in camp, there was also Lolance Cormier, Ron Mahay, Juan Rincon, Tim Redding, Dana Eveland, Merkin Valdez, Roman Colon and probably a few other pitchers I’m forgetting that have pitched in the major leagues. Most of them just disappeared. That is SOP in the bigs. That is not what Ned means by doing something about the ’pen.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 27, 2011 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

How many spots did this team really need last year though

Kuo, Broxton, Padilla, Kenley I believe were the only for sure people in the bullpen. They added Guerrier for 3 years, traded for Hawksworth, signed Mac, signed Cormier.

This was the opening day bullpen, just minus Padilla it looks like from this link:

http://losangeles.dodgers.mlb.com/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20110331&content_id=17222238&vkey=pr_la&fext=.jsp&c_id=la

Padilla was added shortly after I believe. So there were 3 spots that needed to be filled from the sure spots of Kenley, Kuo, Broxton, and Padilla from the year before. I think there will be the scrap heap effect like every year, just not as many as last year for relief.

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by Ivdown on Oct 27, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

In the video linked, Ned is prepared to offer in his opinion “strong dollars” to Kemp.

by silverwidow on Oct 27, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

So Canadian money. Interesting theory.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 27, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

ha

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am slightly over caffeinated, gussied up in a coat and tie, ready to leave for a sales call in 10 minutes

I loved how geeked up I am feeling right now. Want to run through a fucking wall to win that business. I love when I love what I am doing. I love it now.

by Hollywood Joe on Oct 27, 2011 9:51 AM PDT reply actions  

Just dont run threw a wall in Italy, ask the situation what happened.

by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or on the streets. Because everyone knows what that means in L.A.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 27, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

hell yeah son, we dont play out hurr… But you cant be any geek off the street, gotta be handy with the steel if you know what I mean, earn your keep! Regulators! mount up!

by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Unless your enemy has studied his Agrippa. Which I have.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 27, 2011 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

nice

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 27, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Number one reason Kemp needs a raise: Needs a bigger mantle.

by fbihop on Oct 27, 2011 9:54 AM PDT reply actions  

TWRS

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Quick, non-poll poll

Yes or no: the Dodgers will sign a free agent this offseason who was also on the Sporting News National League All-Star team with Kemp and Kershaw.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2011 9:55 AM PDT reply actions  

no

Pujols isn’t there. :)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 27, 2011 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

this :)

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by Ivdown on Oct 27, 2011 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Added a note above about Kemp also making the Sporting News NL All-Star team in 2009.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2011 9:58 AM PDT reply actions  

has phil never heard of

Foundation?

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 10:03 AM PDT reply actions  

Yes, Phil has, which is why Phil made comment. Which is why Phil updated Book thoughts.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

ah ha!

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like 3rd person, caveman, Phil.

by keithc13 on Oct 27, 2011 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought it was Native American stereotype Phil

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 27, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

hee came hee seop'd he choi'd - you be right

I confused the 9th inning double by Boom Boom in the 9th against Wagner with the Martin’s rally killing single.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 10:13 AM PDT reply actions  

I think I’ve done that before and been corrected before. I’ll probably do it again in two years.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

(pencils it in)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 27, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

not sure why I remember that so well

but Kent, Betemit and Martin stick out in my mind as the only players who hit worth a damn in that series. Betemit also had the only HR iirc..

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 27, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

and Loney, who walked in his only PA in the first two games, then started and went 3 for 4 in Game 3.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

he was just getting his feet wet so he’d be ready in 2008

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pretty much Phil’s favorite player of all time.

:)

by keithc13 on Oct 27, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nah, but you can’t deny how Boom Boom Betemit flows

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Eric - is Humma right, SB Nation searches are only working from July 2011 forward?

Seems to be the case

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 10:19 AM PDT reply actions  

I hope they fix this. Then again a real search engine would be nice.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

did i miss discussion of this in a prior thread:

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Settlement?!?

by MammothDodger on Oct 27, 2011 10:48 AM PDT reply actions  

Divorce settlement. Different issue.

by silverwidow on Oct 27, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

sorry cant read

confused by number of court cases, missed that it was divorce not bankrupcy

by MammothDodger on Oct 27, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good news everyone!
“Sunday’s Game 4 averaged a 4.2 rating/11 share in adults 18-49 and 15.16 million viewers overall – enough to top NBC’s Sunday Night Football (5.2/13, 12.47m) in total viewers but not the demo. Game 5 on Monday of the current week (4.2/11, 14.32m) held steady, handily beating ESPN’s Monday Night Football (3.3/9, 7.47m for Ravens-Jaguars)”

Baseball wins!

by Josie Becker on Oct 27, 2011 10:49 AM PDT reply actions  

Football is dying.

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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

to be fair to football

that’s quadruple what Fox did for Saturday baseball game of the week, and the Super Bowl gets like a 60 share. But still! The casual sports fan has chosen to watch-a the baseball over bad football!

by Josie Becker on Oct 27, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

There were tons of articles about how baseball is dying when football out drew it, so this is only fair.

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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

if not dead

and if Detroit loses, it will be dead to me

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 27, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Alternate headline:

Two very good World Series baseball games beat out two horrific football games.

by fbihop on Oct 27, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

For perspective – is this unusual? I don’t really follow rating, not being snide.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nice spin job even though this is the lowest rated World Series in history.

"It's a five letter word, S-T-R-I-K-E."

by Alex41592 on Oct 27, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

ah

perspective

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

the worst rated World Series in history outdraws uncompetitive football!

by Josie Becker on Oct 27, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

There's no way this can be worse than the 05 series

That was just so awful.

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by Ivdown on Oct 27, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

The World Series where every game was decided by one run?

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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's a good aspect

the bad aspect was it was between the Chicago White Sox and the Houston Astros, two teams that did not appeal to me in any way to watch, and I thought was the worst rated WS.

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by Ivdown on Oct 27, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Baseball will draw a worse rating when it’s opposite something other than Mr. Ed and the test patter with an Indian.

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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Will they get enough of a boost from a Game 6 and/or Game 7 to be not worst?

by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

2006 Cardinals vs. Detroit Tigers was the least-watched World Series in modern history, earning an average of 15.8 million viewers and a Nielsen rating of 10.1.

Game 4 drew 15.16….so 2011 will definitely need a game 7 to do better

by Josie Becker on Oct 27, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think a Game 7 on Friday would almost guarantee that. But, it could be close.

"It's a five letter word, S-T-R-I-K-E."

by Alex41592 on Oct 27, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

you have to go back to 1997 Marlins – Indians for a Game six that didn’t do around 20 mill viewers. So game six will tell us a lot

by Josie Becker on Oct 27, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

lol come on, it was Saints vs the winless Colts, Colts lost 66-7 or something.

by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah Sunday *and* Monday were two terrible, terrible games in a row.

While NFL usually wins, in this case it’s not a huge surprise.

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by underdog on Oct 27, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

The ESPN docs have hit the bottom of the barrel. Next up: a documentary on Chris Herren.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2011 11:00 AM PDT reply actions  

That said, I will watch it

by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder if it’ll be more like the HBO documentary in The Fighter, or the don’t do drug videos I watched in elementary school

by Josie Becker on Oct 27, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

finally got around to watching that movie last night. Very good.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 27, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Fighter or the HBO doc?

by fbihop on Oct 27, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Fighter

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 27, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m still wondering how they did that movie about a time in his career that didn’t involve his trilogy with Gatti.

Really good movie, though.

by fbihop on Oct 27, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

wahlberg wants to do that in a sequel

I had assumed going in that that would be featured in the movie in some way, but the movie was so good I completely forgot about it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fighter#Sequel

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

The best part about this is that my comment was a joke.

Wow.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Then that makes more sense.

by fbihop on Oct 27, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I read that. I would be very interested in seeing that movie. And those fights

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 27, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

I watch those fights on the crappy quality on YouTube about once a year.

by fbihop on Oct 27, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I remember them showing them on TV

but I can’t remember if it was because of the movie or when they found Gatti dead.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 27, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I remember watching one live on HBO. Probably the second one.

by fbihop on Oct 27, 2011 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Saving that for The Fighter II

by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Perhaps the Kemp and the Dodgers would consider a seven-year deal that pays Kemp $15MM in 2012 and $20MM in each of the following six seasons for a seven-year total of $135MM.
.
DO IT!

by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 11:02 AM PDT reply actions  

I knew that if you applied that USC education, you could figure it out.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

ha my work computer sucks, yeah, im blaming my work computer!

by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think anyone here would so no to such a deal.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Brian Cashman is posting under regfairfield’s handle

by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Oct 27, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s why I only look to free agents to improve the team

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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

“You’re much better than Crawford or Werth. Take less, please.”

by kinbote on Oct 27, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

More than Werth, and it’s only slightly less than Crawford because the first year is not in free agency.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Looking back, the Crawford deal was a fleece. What were his main selling points? Triples, speed, defense [in left field!], durability. Kemp’s gonna be at the table talking home runs and batting average. I’m starting to get scared thinking about what it would take.

by kinbote on Oct 27, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

And that package equals a five or six win player.

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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

His fielding won’t be the same, his WAR will suffer

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

defense is important at any position

Being 10 runs better then everyone at your position is invaluable how?

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by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

*unvaluable

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by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

i give up

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by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just assumed Theo read this :)

by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

All hail King Neptune and his Water Breathers!

by kinbote on Oct 27, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Eric made a good case for him a year ago

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I miss fanerman, but I don’t miss his giant signature.

by kinbote on Oct 27, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kemp will actually be elite over the course of the contract.

We won’t be paying him for his past accomplishments.

get it done!

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

@MelissaSeguraSI Heard 2-2.5 million cap per team for international signing on table for labor talks

This helps us because the Dodgers haven’t paid for Dominican talent in ages, but this seems like a good excuse for athletes in Latin America to play soccer instead.

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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 11:32 AM PDT reply actions  

On baseball’s side: less chance you’ll be murded if you screw up during a game.

by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Oct 27, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

isn't

the split pretty evenly Caribbean: baseball Central America: Soccer?

by Josie Becker on Oct 27, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m sure things can change if there was much more money in soccer.

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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

the money

in North American soccer is in playing the US and Mexico. Jamaica has a good soccer team, but DR, Puerto Rico, Cuba, not so much.

by Josie Becker on Oct 27, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Chicken and the egg. If there was more money in soccer, they’d get a better soccer team.

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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Cuba team is good by CONCACAF standards

by delias man on Oct 27, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

CONCACAF is basically Mexico, the US then a bunch of second-tier teams (Honduras, Costa Rica, Jamaica, etc.) and Cuba is in the tier below that.

But, hey, they’re better than Guadaloupe!

by fbihop on Oct 27, 2011 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was told by a reliable source the only kids who play soccer are the one who sucked at baseball

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lionel Messi throws like Bababooey

by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Oct 27, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Heard this

Melissa Segura is Spanish for Buster Olney

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 27, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I kind of enjoy teams who get fleeced like this. The highest order of sting

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

If they could only carbon date a human

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

they probably could

with a standard deviation of 15 years

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by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right, cutting off a limb and counting the circles would be more accurate

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

They would see I was well fed in 1971

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chips in the brain

no one would object to that would they?

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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 27, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even with all my relief pitcher paranoia if Ned actually sings someone good like Betancourt or Belisle I would put away my pitch fork.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 11:48 AM PDT reply actions  

a loogy would be nice. Maybe they can let Elbert pitch some high leverage innings

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Please no Belisle

we already have a belisle named Guerrier

by BFDC on Oct 27, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

53% GB rate
Excellent command
Decent dominance

Just saying I wouldn’t complain

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

What if he signs Guerrier’s contract?

by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure, then I’d complain unless we unloaded Guerrier. You know me, three year relief pitcher deals are ridic for 95% of the relief pitchers available to sign a contract.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, we are on the same page. Not a fan of paying non dominant relievers. I do like Belisle though.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

SI predictions

Fielder: Cubs
Reyes: Nats
Wilson: Angels
Aramis Ramirez: Marlins
Rollins: Giants

by Josie Becker on Oct 27, 2011 11:50 AM PDT reply actions  

Aramis Ramirez: Marlins

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA hold on out of breath HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

new stadium, they will sign someone decent this offseason

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

and third base

is a hole in Florida, fewest HRs from that position in the NL (6)

by Josie Becker on Oct 27, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sure when reg finishes stiching his sides back together

he’ll explain

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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 27, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Less money for Aramis = more money for Jeff Loria.

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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

They’re going to get the attendance boost anyway, so why bother with a competitive team.

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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

They look like a competitive team to me. Adding Aramis would be a perfect fit for them.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

they really underachieved last season

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Losing Josh Johnson who was on a Cy Young pace hurt a bit as did a terrible year from one of the best hitters position wise in baseball.

I’d think a team with
Josh Johnson, Nolasco, Sanchez, Sanchez, Morrison, Stanton, Hanley is a team to be reckoned with. Add in Aramis and the can make some noise in a very tough division.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

They’re a 72-90 team losing a key player. They need Hanley to bounce back, Johnson to be healthy, and someone else to break out to even think about contending.

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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, Josh will be healthy, Hanley will bounce back, so the break out would probably be Morrison not being dicked around. Then add in Aramis and I think we meet your criteria for contending.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

new stadium and hes still gonna keep the payroll at 20 million dollars or however small it was? I don’t buy that

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

They’ll spend money, but it will probably on things like Javier Vazquez.

I’m not expecting the Marlins to suddenly open their pocket books out of the goodness of their hearts.

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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

spending money on Javier Vazquez is not a bad thing

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure, but I meant the money will go to guys getting one year contracts, not the massive commitment Aramis will want.

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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

4/60 has to be the max for him don’t you think. I think they can swing that easily enough going into a new stadium.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

You mean besides Stanton every other game

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh man, I can’t believe no one else rec’d this yet.

by fbihop on Oct 27, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

then no one will come to the stadium after the first year. Loria can’t fuck the city out of 100s of millions of dollars and not spend money. He can but its not gonna go well for him

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

He made 40 million in 2008 in a beat ass stadium no one went to.

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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Matt Dominguez will hit 12 next year will giving the NL a glimpse of what real 3rd base defense looks like.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hanley should be their 3rd baseman but thats a different story all together

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ozzie said he's considered it

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 27, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Also, I loved watching Sean Casey take BP on MLB Tonight, lol.”

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 27, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I found this very funny.

by kinbote on Oct 27, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

For some reason I actually like Ozzie

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

guess that means

they figure Pujols stays put

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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 27, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cool, that leaves Beltran for the Dodgers:)

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree that the Nats and Cubs will be big players this year in the FA market.

by kinbote on Oct 27, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Nats will sign Fielder and Reyes if they can

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I kind of had Pujols to Cubs and Prince to Nat’s. Reyes makes so much sense for the Giants, just not sure they have the budget for him.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have no idea where Reyes will sign. I’m calling Mystery Team.

by kinbote on Oct 27, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

do the Angels really have the money for Wilson? Plus they already have two “aces”

by eitherethier on Oct 27, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t know if they have the money but CJ would plug in nicely after Haren/Weaver before Santana.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Angels really don’t have anywhere to put a position player except catcher, and there’s none of those on the market.

Trading Trumbo or Escobar is they can make room for a free agent position player that would help them, but that just strains an already bloated payroll further. Wilson is the only guy they can get that would be a big improvement.

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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Escobar?

is Kelvin still playing:)

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow. I think I went Kendry=Kelvin=Escobar there. The Angels really need to trade someone at this point because they’re looking at:

1B – Trumbo
2B – Kendrick
SS – Aybar
3B – Izturis
LF – Wells
CF – Bourjous
RF – Hunter
DH – Abreu

While still needing to make room for Morales and Trout. DFA Vernon wells is a great place to start but that will never happen

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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Looks like a good problem to have.

by BFDC on Oct 27, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its not, that offense sucked

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sort of. Right now the Angels problem is their roster is overloaded with mediocrity. None of these guys are bad enough where you can improve on them easily but they’re not good enough to win. It’s the JP Riccardi problem.

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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is why I advocate getting one really good player instead of a bunch of mediocre ones.

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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yea I agree with what you are saying. They should be looking to get creative with a trade or two.

by BFDC on Oct 27, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

That team could use Aramis Ramirez:)

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

trade a bunch of guys for relief pitching

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by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Barajas or Hernandez would fit in nicely with the Angels being that Conger hits left handed.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Morales is gonna get non-tendered. Or I’ll least say it until he doesn’t

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d say no way but what would his arbitration amount look like?

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

No way I’d non tender him then.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

He made $2.975 million in 2011 and didn’t play a single inning. I wonder what the sample of arb guys who missed a whole year is. Hard to see a raise.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unless the Angels feel he’ll never play again, I don’t see how they could non – tender him at that price.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Much has been made of the Wells trade but the Abreu extension was also a huge whiff. We all know that the Hunter deal would eventually be a problem but at least they got good work from it.

Has the fired GM done any thing of note other then signing Weaver to a great extension? Most of the good work came before his time, all of the bad work came during his time, including the sacking of the minor league guru who provided him most of the good things he got to work with.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn - Huge Win

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

While I definitely agree it was a huge win and for a team in division contention

Skaggs is kicking ass in the minors and Saunders is around average or just below I believe.

That said, again, big win.

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by Ivdown on Oct 27, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Repko got a raise in a year where he had 4 PA, so I think he’d get a small one.

Maybe do Trumbo to the Rays for Jeff Neimann and a little something else, sign CJ Wilson, DFA Mathis and Wells?

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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rays will be one of the few teams to realize Kotchman is a better value then the power hitting only Trumbo.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know if they can afford him.

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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am very curious what he gets, you don’t see his scenario very often.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d say 1/4-5. I think enough teams can see that the only difference between 2009 and 2010 is 110 points of BABIP that there will be a market.

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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is his defense still elite? Or was that a myth in the first place? Not that I’m going to trust whatever you tell me:)

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

-4 from 2010-2011, +22 before that.

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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

First baseman seems to lose their defensive prowness fast. Probably not true but it seems that way whenever I look at the metrics.

Hey did you see the rating for Carlos Lee this year. I know one year anomaly but WTF

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just saw something about Grand Theft Auto 5

there will be a trailer released for it on November 2nd. I’m so stoked, hopefully it’s not as boring and repetitive as GTA4.

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by Ivdown on Oct 27, 2011 12:19 PM PDT reply actions  

aren’t they all like that? “Take this thing to that place.”

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 27, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

The other games did a better job of not making it seem like the same exact mission over and over

I hope you can actually do something with your money this time. All he kept saying was “ok i’ll do it, but you better pay me” and money was rarely used for anything.

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by Ivdown on Oct 27, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Honestly if Vice City or San Andreas were brought to the PS3

I’d be in heaven and i’d go nuts playing them both. Both of them were just so fun. I’ve never played other games more and did pretty much nothing with so much excitement. GTA 4 looked awesome, but there wasn’t all that much to do. San Andreas’s story wasn’t the greatest, but the sheer amount of different areas, different vehicles (including jets and jetpacks, which were both so awesome), and different activities made it worth playing over and over. The gang wars in LA were so sweet too.

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by Ivdown on Oct 27, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

The gang wars in LA were so sweet too.

just play infamous already

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by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I could do without the getting haircuts, eating, etc etc as well.

by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

GTA4 was neverending…

by eitherethier on Oct 27, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

they all where like that

there needs to be a way to cut through the BS missions and just finish the story.

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by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

All you had to do was follow the damn train!

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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

and checkpoints

if hte game had checkpoints it would be 10 times better

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by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes

its super crazy though, hard to tell whats going on sometimes

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by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can't fly a jet for shit

those 64 player matches are intense. my computer refuses to run it so I’ve been going console which totally blows

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m going to get it no matter what, but im kinda surprised at the reviews its getting… it currently has an average review on 8.3 in 10 different reviews… I thought forsure it would get over 9… between 9 and 9.5…. commercials just look so insane.

by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

its fun

but like every BF game has major flaws/bugs.

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by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

The servers have been kinda laggy, that is getting irritating

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

EA and DICE don’t pay people for reviews

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

no they just try to bully them

if you think EA doesn’t participate in the same dickery everyone else does I do’nt know what to say

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by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah it was a joke but the CoD series will get better reviews

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its too much driving is the problem, you finish one mission, then you gotta go all the way across town to start the next mission, then all the way across town again to do mission, then sometimes you gotta drive the truck full of stolen stuff across town again without blowing it up…. I think there should be some way to skip some of the driving, or have the missions closer together… I dont need it to be that realistic.

by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rockstar probably thought it was a good idea it took 56 days of gameplay to complete.

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I stopped playing Read Dead because im sick of riding this dam horse for hours, with like 5-10 mins of actual killing people.

by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

that game was amazing, riding the horses/traveling was fun. Always trying to find a animal to kill

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

ha, yeah I couldnt get myself to skin animals man, I would honestly feel bad… killing people is no problem though

by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

It would be awesome if USCris0304 was really a cover name for Ken Tremendous which is already a cover name

by Hollywood Joe on Oct 27, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

nope, my name comes from USC, my name is Chris, and they were national champs in 03, and 04, until NCAA sactioned us with some bullshit, but we dont need to start another college war do we?? Who is Ken Tremendous, and who was he covering for??

by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's a mistake

RDR was one of the greatest games ever. It really kicked the crap out of GTA 4.

Vice City
San Andreas
Red Dead Redemption
Assassin’s Creed 1, 2, Brotherhood
Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 1 and 2
MVP Baseball 2005
Wrestlemania 2000
Spiderman The Movie Game 2
Batman: Arkham City

This is a list of the best games (to me) I’ve ever played. Loving all of these games so much, I’d say that RDR probably has the most stuff you can do out of all of them that are the most fun to do.

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by Ivdown on Oct 27, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah I still have it, so maybe I’ll resume play. Alot of those games you list get knocked for repetitive gameplay, so it seems you are into repetitive gameplay… thats cool though… Im really into shooters, just love the no stop action of killing people non stop haha

by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

He liked AssCreed 1

of course he is into repetetive gameplay

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by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

is there a person on the planet who didn't think asscreed 1 was repetitive?

asscreed 2 on has been great

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by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have number 2 sitting on my shelf, never played it. the first one turned me off, so I would agree.

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

play 2

seriously, its in a whole different ballgame

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by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Make sure to get AC: Brotherhood

I thought it was just a side game, but it actually progresses the story in a major way.

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by Ivdown on Oct 27, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wasn't entirely happy with bro hood

you could tell in a few places that the game had been made in a shorter dev cycle, and the “main” story for the game was just not as interesting. It was still an overall good game, but not as good as 2. Having a hard time to get hyped for revelations, they need to let the series come up for air

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by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree it would be better most likely with 2 years instead of 1 to make it

But i’m stoked that I get a new one every year and it’s not just Madden’ed.

Revelations has Ezio finishing his story up which I’m a fan of, we never got that from Altair, thought this one will go back to that a bit which is cool.

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by Ivdown on Oct 27, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Take it to the hate thread

you’re bashing my favorite gaming franchise ever, not a good thing to do with me, lol.

Assassin’s Creed is more than just awesome gameplay with a unique style, it has the best story throughout the games of any game/series I’ve ever seen. There are so many ways to kill someone, you can be stealth and kill from far, or just run in and get into a huge sword fight or knife fight. I love it.

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by Ivdown on Oct 27, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

sorry for being critical of something you like

for entirely valid reasons

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by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

You bring up one aspect of the franchise that has improved (which you said later on)

You seem to be very one dimensional when it comes to games.

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by Ivdown on Oct 27, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not criticizing the series

I’m criticizing that specific game. How does that make me one dimensional? A game being repetitive can easily ruin the whole thing.

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by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because you're focusing on one part when there were so many great parts

Depending on how bad something is I agree it can ruin it, but I disagree in this case.

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by Ivdown on Oct 27, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

you disagree

but its almost universally considered a huge huge huge issue with the game and has prevented many people from even bothering to try the sequels.

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by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gamespot gave it a 9

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/assassins-creed/index.html?tag=result%3Btitle%3B7

I trust a lot of their rankings and to give it a 9 I think that really means despite the repetitive nature it’s well worth the play.

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by Ivdown on Oct 27, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

are you fucking serious?

stop being such a fanboy for one second jimminy cricket. ONE REVIEW is your entire argument? From Gamespot no less! Holy fucking shit I don’t even know what to say.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamespot#Gerstmann_dismissal

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by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

its great that you like it

but I don’t see why its so hard for you to acknowledge the repetivness was a game breaking issue for a lot of people.

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by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe you should stop freaking the fuck out as well

I’m telling you how I feel about it and you’re doing the same, i’m not telling you how you should feel, i’m giving you counterpoints to your fucking opinion.

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by Ivdown on Oct 27, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think he freaked out because you used one review to back up your claim. That one review being from Gamespot really didn’t help either.

I’m not sure why you are so defensive about the game. I know a number of people who love the series and every single one of them would agree with Nolander here. It’s not as if only a small niche group of people felt this way. Pretty much everybody did and that includes most that love the series.

by VegasBlues on Oct 27, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

What about the Halo series? It gets such great reviews everytime, but I cant get into it at all. It was one of the reasons I bought a xbox too, but didnt like it. Love the Gears of War series though.

by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love halo

but it isn’t perfect. Love gears of war too

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by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s just a preference thing would be my guess. I personally am not a fan of FPS games so stuff like Halo has never appealed to me.

by VegasBlues on Oct 27, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Halo 2 was good. 3 was fun online. I didn’t like the first one much

by eitherethier on Oct 27, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where I was going with my comment on the Gamespot review is there are probably 20 other places I’d go for a review before I went to Gamespot. Going there is often like going to a companies own PR person to find out what they think.

by VegasBlues on Oct 27, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of online, all you guys play online? I like games for the story mode, I cant get into the online gaming, thats seems alot more for the younger generation.

by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Online console gamers are one mysoginitic, homophobic, mean spirited lot.

by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Oct 27, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

the see you trollin...

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by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

WoW is the one big game I play online but I doubt it’s something I’d pick up and start playing now. I’ve been playing it since it released so I’ve known a lot of the people I play with for 6 years or so. I play other games through Steam but I usually only play with people I know.

by VegasBlues on Oct 27, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I play Starcraft 2 regularly, it’s a pretty mellow player pool, but the Xbox crowd? Lots of dickheads.

by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Oct 27, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was in the Starcraft 2 F&F Alpha and also the Beta. I played it a bunch then but didn’t have the money at the time to buy the game.

I wouldn’t go anywhere near the shallow end of the pool that is the Xbox crowd.

by VegasBlues on Oct 27, 2011 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

wait, I play xbox… Is that a shot at xbox online gamers or anyone that plays xbox?? Dont start a system war!

by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

gamers as a lot are shitheads

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by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Xbox Live crowd. The same goes for most people on the internet.

I’ve always thought people that argue over which system is better needs to stop playing video games and go experience the real world.

by VegasBlues on Oct 27, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah I was kidding. I think the system wars is dumb too, who cares, people like what they like. But I guess some people have to feel better about what system they have by ripping the system you have if its different.

by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is America. You can’t just like what you like without somebody that likes something else being wrong about it.

by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Oct 27, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did you just bring this entire sub-topic back full circle?

by VegasBlues on Oct 27, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Full circle sucks. Full square is where it’s at.

by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Oct 27, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

this a straight-edge thing?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 27, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

No. The X’s on my hands were too distracting.

by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Oct 27, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

The edges are too sharp on squares. Gotta go with the circle. (No clue where I’m going with this)

by VegasBlues on Oct 27, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Circle gets the square.

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by Nolij on Oct 27, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good ol’ Fred Rated.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 27, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had PS1, and PS2, wanted PS3 but I was sooo upset when they released so few, and was impossible to get for so long. People selling PS3 on ebay for a billion dollars, so I said fuck it and bough 360 and gears of war. I know its not realistic, but these companies shouldnt release systems until they have enough for everybody.

by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Supply and demand. It made it so they could sell the systems for so much money.

by VegasBlues on Oct 27, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

nintendo does what you want

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by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

He is saying it being repetitive ruined the first game

which i very much disagree with. It made it not as good as the next 2, but didn’t kill the game.

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by Ivdown on Oct 27, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

your opinion is the only one that matters

got it

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by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

no you ass

Again, i’m not telling you i’m right, i’m telling you there are many others who don’t think the game is ruined by what you think about the game.

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by Ivdown on Oct 27, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okay that’s your opinion. That’s fine. You are making it sound like your opinion is how the majority of people perceived the game though. Nolander isn’t saying your opinion is wrong. He’s just saying you are one of few that feel that way. Him saying that has made you come back overly defensive as if he’s bashing you or something.

by VegasBlues on Oct 27, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I got no dog in this fight, but Assassin’s Creed ranks pretty low on my favorite ‘Creeds.’ It below Apollo and the Nicene, but it’s definitely above Creed.

by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Oct 27, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

It ranks second on my list of Assassins though, right behind the Sondheim musical and ahead of actual assassins.

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by Nolij on Oct 27, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think I liked the Antonio Banderas/Sly Stallone movie slightly more.

by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Oct 27, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

If it was as big of an issue as he is making it

there wouldn’t be 3 games with a 4th coming out soon and a 5th next year. If it was really that bad people wouldn’t have been interested enough for there to be so many sequels.

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by Ivdown on Oct 27, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

if you insist on sticking your head in the sand

theres nothing anyone can do to stop you

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by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sticking my head in the sand?

You’re burying this game on one concept, which isn’t even that bad. It’s still fun, even if you do it a lot.

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by Ivdown on Oct 27, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

If I remember correctly, you could press triangle to make Altair put his head in the sand when he got tired of doing the same thing over and over?

by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Oct 27, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

You act like there has to be something wrong with it

Is there any reason why I can’t have enjoyed playing a game I believe to be great? If I had played AC2 first, then I wouldn’t have appreciated AC1 nearly as much, but that’s fine, because I don’t play in some backwards ass order.

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by Ivdown on Oct 27, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can name many horrible games that have big enough cult followings to where they were able to make more games in the series. A number of those games actually learn from their mistakes and make a better game the second time around which draws in even more people. Those people that were drawn in by the sequels then go back to try the first game and hate it.

And that is where you get to where we are at in this conversation.

by VegasBlues on Oct 27, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s important to remember too, Assassin’s Creed was one of the first big titles for PS3. It was pretty amazing when it came out, but subsequent games have really showed how lacking it was.

by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Oct 27, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

The issues with it where known when it came out

there was a great game struggling to get out, and it burst out of its cocoon as asscreed2

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by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Asscreed 2: because we inadequately professed our belief in asses the first time around.

by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Oct 27, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

This sub-thread

has amused me no end. I dread the day when the internet evolves enough so that you’ll be able to reach out and throttle people. Because, there’s gonna be some carnage.

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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 27, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Flame wars. Now with real flames!

by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Oct 27, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's my point, really

If you play it out of order you won’t enjoy the actual game play. If you play it first you will enjoy everything, even if you end up getting tired of the same motions over and over.

You may be right about cult followings, but as the first of the series, i’m not sure, if the repetitive nature was really such a game killer, it would have had the crowd to survive to even one sequel.

They most definitely got better as each game has gone on, which i’m definitely happy about. If it had stayed as the same gameplay, I wouldn’t have been as happy about the series, but playing the series in order as they came out it doesn’t make anything worse.

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by Ivdown on Oct 27, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you really want to have some fun, tell a video game message board you didn’t like Final Fantasy 7

by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Oct 27, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

and then have all of them agree with you

that its really outdated? Hating on FF7 is the new cool

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by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup, the inevitable contrarian backlash. Full disclosure, I’ve finished that game multiple times with every single materia at master level, all the optional quests and bosses beaten. I didn’t have a lot of friends.

by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Oct 27, 2011 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Penultimate Fantasy was better.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 27, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do they even know what the definition of ‘final’ is?

/seinfelded

by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Oct 27, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

it doesn't help that it snot many years old

most people just don’t like JRPGs anymore

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by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

excise the not

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by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

*no2

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by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah there is a lot of stuff repetetive

But luckily most of the stuff you keep doing is really fun. Vice City and San Andreas I could just do pretty much anything to keep myself entertained. One of my favorite things to do was to try and crash fast cars in the most destructive ways possible. Hours of fun right there.

The Assassin’s Creed games have a good amount of repetitive nature, but since the first one they have been doing a really good job of improving upon that.

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by Ivdown on Oct 27, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

So you turned GTA into Angry Birds.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 27, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm surprised Burnout isn't one of his favorite games

finding the jumps wsa tons of fun in GTA3

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by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I liked the arcade games that had the non-traditional controls. Tempest spinner, Track and Field buttons, Paperboy handlebars ftmfw.

by kinbote on Oct 27, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Playing Track and Field with a pencil for added speed was the shit

by keithc13 on Oct 27, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I got Burnout Paradise

and hated it. Just driving is no fun to me.

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by Ivdown on Oct 27, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

rent burnout 3

play crash mode
profit

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by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh shit!

I remember playing that like 5 years ago with my cousin. That was a hell of a game mode right there!

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by Ivdown on Oct 27, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

After I finished missions and all the rest

yeah. I’ve never played angry birds.

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by Ivdown on Oct 27, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

You forgot every MGS game ever made

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like to play games

not onoxious cutscenes

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by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sucks to be you! Metal Gear Solid was the best game ever made IMO

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jesus h christ Nolander

are you just trying to dump on everything? I feel like you’re trying to troll this entire conversation, lol.

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by Ivdown on Oct 27, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

hes got a legit point. MGS4 would of really made me angry if it wasn’t the last game in the series.

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

MSG4 was like 20 hours of cutscenes.

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

thats pretty much the only one I've played

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by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I haven't played it so i'm not sure, though I did hear it was like a movie

I’d be cool with that if it’s a compelling story, as long as it’s not more cutscenes than game play.

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by Ivdown on Oct 27, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

the cutscenes are not good

honestly its just… theres a cultural barrier there I think

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by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

if you never played any other games in the series, you’ll have zero idea whats going.

Even the PSP games had story lines that intertwined with the console series

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

its not an issue of understanding

the dialog and “humor” was just bad, and it needed a heavy dose of editing. Its not all bad, but the ponderous pace made it so hard to get through

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by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

With the number of games out there

and the amount of time it takes to play them, I expect a lot from my games

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by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've never played any of them

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by Ivdown on Oct 27, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

One of my favorite all time baseball games was Bases Loaded for NES… I loved it because if you beaned the star player for the other team, he would charged the mound, grab your head, and punch it a few times… Only baseball game I have ever seen with that detail in it…

by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was an RBI Baseball guy on Nintendo

by keithc13 on Oct 27, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I liked Tommy Lasorda Baseball on Genesis.

by silverwidow on Oct 27, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

all the cool kids where

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by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

My dad loves the OG baseball for NES, he loved when the players would run back to the dugout crying after they would make an out…. I still remember the sound effect of the fly balls too

by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

What was the last baseball game with Piazza, Mondesi and Karros on the Dodgers? MVP baseball, or World Series basbeall?? I loved that game too, until I got to 100 HRs with Piazza in a season, and instead it showed up as 00

by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha. a little anticlimactic.

by eitherethier on Oct 27, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I still play RDR

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by mleadman on Oct 27, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

are you just forgetting PS1 games or did you not piss your pants playing Resident Evil as a kid?

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've never played that series

I had a PS1, but the only memorable game series I remember from those were the Tony Hawk 1-3 games, notably 2.

It’s mostly PS2 and PS3 that had the games I loved most.

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by Ivdown on Oct 27, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

your PS3 should play Resident Evil

Turn off the lights, get a couple beers in you and play that shit all night

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was like 8 when it came out IIRC

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

now way!! awesome news…. is it going to be released on current systems though, or the next generation cuz I hear the new xbox, ps could be released here in 2012??

by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope the setting is in the valley, I wanna live my fantasy ramming slow drivers from behind, shooting them, or simply just blowing them up… oh and blowing up food trucks with a missle launcher would be the sweetest thing ever!!!

by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

sweet!, Rumor is it is going to be set in LA.

by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Those consoles are gonna be so damned expensive.

Are you the one talking about BF3 a few days ago

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes I was, still havent gotten it yet though… but BF3, the new Batman, and CODMW3 are all I want for christmas, then im probably done buying games for a while, until I find out forsure when the new systems come out…. and whats going on with that.

by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Batman is freaking awesome

One of the 5 best games I’ve ever played. MW3 is sure to be on that list come november, also Assassin’s Creed: Revelations.

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by Ivdown on Oct 27, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah I didnt get the 1st batman until it became a greatest hit and was 19.99, I was very happy with it once I got it.

by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I haven't heard anything about new systems in 2012

I thought new gen would still be a few years away.

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by Ivdown on Oct 27, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

not just yet

theyre still trying to milk the current cycle.. thats what kinect and move was supposed to assist with, even tho theyre stupid kiddie crap.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 27, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Other reports have surfaced about the expected launch date of Microsoft’s rumored Xbox 720 coming in 2013. Develop, a video game website, had several sources claim the console could arrive at the E3 gaming expo in June 2013.
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Ok, so its 2013 then…

by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

or now im reading new Wii in 2012, ps4 2013, xbox720 in 2014 hahaha, who knows, but they are coming. PS4 trying to be smart and come out before xbox this time, I think that hurt PS3 coming out last, this last time around, hurt them.

by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hopefully

it has a good free roam

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by mleadman on Oct 27, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

In addition to David Eckstein throwing the ceremonial first pitch tonight, the Cardinals will have Vince Coleman “deliver the game ball” along with a member of the Boys & Girls Club.

Watch out for that tarp!

by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2011 12:56 PM PDT reply actions  

He’ll call his escort “a little firecracker.”

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by Nolij on Oct 27, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

More hype
evansilva
ESPN’s Todd McShay on #Stanford QB: “I’ve never seen a guy at Andrew Luck’s level. … Luck has a chance to be an all-time special player.”

by silverwidow on Oct 27, 2011 12:56 PM PDT reply actions  

typical blah blah

by BFDC on Oct 27, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

The sport of football is filled with things Todd McShay hasn’t seen.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

It does make me want to watch the game this weekend and it takes alot to get me to watch USC play. I think the last time was the Vince Young thighbounce game.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

ha ha

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

every year in all sports there is some new all world prospect that is the greatest thing ever, never seen a guy do this before, blah blah. We’ll see.

by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lane Kiffin is impressed by Luck too.

by kinbote on Oct 27, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

thats just pregame hype… you want to build your opponent up, make them feel over confident. Luck aint perfect.

by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Todd McShay

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

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by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s very good, for a cross-dresser. He’ll be a lady tonight.

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by Nolij on Oct 27, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

ha

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cardinals lineup

Furcal SS
Schumaker CF
Pujols 1B
Berkman RF
Holliday LF
Freese 3B
Molina C
Punto 2B
García P

by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2011 12:59 PM PDT reply actions  

I’ve built a $53,000,000 team with $31,000,000 belonging to players no longer on the team. An exercise to see what you could do if an owner said cut payroll to $50,000,000, but build me an exciting team with a future. Though I suspect many would doubt it has a future if they saw it. This went through about 1,000 iterations.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 1:02 PM PDT reply actions  

It will be the second post of the Rosterbation exercise, I think I’ll call it DynamiteBation in honer of all those folk who would like a team blown up and built all over.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

My guess

Kemp, Ethier, Billingsley, Guerrier, Lilly are all gone. Possibly Loney.

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by Ivdown on Oct 27, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Everyone over 25 had to go but Kershaw and the bullpen. However on the plus side:
1. 2012 Number one Pick
2. Matt Kemp said he’d be happy to sign a Free Agent contract with the new owner Magic Johnson

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

Without Kemp, Bills, Lilly, Ethier, Loney, Uribe (He HAS to be at least decent next year) a top 3 worst finish will definitely happen, i think you’re right about that.

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by Ivdown on Oct 27, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kershaw = 23

by lnickerson88 on Oct 27, 2011 1:45 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Everyone over 25 had to go but Kershaw and the bullpen

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn

can’t even understand what I write myself. What a tool

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Prediction: that team will be terrible.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but we will have the 2012 number one pick:)

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Batting third, Jason Heyward?

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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Against RHP anyway:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rangers lineup

Kinsler 2B
Andrus SS
Hamilton LF
Young 1B
Beltre 3B
Cruz RF
Napoli C
Gentry CF
Lewis P

by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2011 1:02 PM PDT reply actions  

For all the Michael Young doubters when the season started (he was the target of some trade speculation), batting cleanup and playing 1b in Game 6 of the World Series is not bad.

by kinbote on Oct 27, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

That trade speculation started when he demanded a trade.

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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've always been a big fan of his

I know he’s expensive but i’d love to trade for him at a reduced salary for 3B or 2B next season.

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by Ivdown on Oct 27, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice bat

barely seems able to play 1st base these days much less 2nd or 3rd.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t like him in DS for half a season. That and his onbase skills are pretty much his batting average

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I haven't seen much of him

and I’m sure we wouldn’t like his defense, but I know his bat is good for 185+ hits which I know this team could use with some decent to good power.

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by Ivdown on Oct 27, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’d have to play first. If you regress him to his career BABIP he OPSes about .810 this year in Texas. Convert that to Dodger Stadium you’re looking at something in the mid .700s. If he repeats 2010, you’ve got Loney with worse defense.

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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

BTW Eric,

great photo of our two miners

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 1:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Game 7 or does MLB crown the franchise from Texas for the first time ever?

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 1:43 PM PDT reply actions  

This series has been great, I wouldn’t mind a game 7 but I want the Rangers to end it tonight

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

it ends tonight. I had a dream that it did.

by eitherethier on Oct 27, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rangers close em out tonight

by keithc13 on Oct 27, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have 100 units riding on a Texas blowout tonight. Crown ’em!

by kinbote on Oct 27, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Z key has been useful today

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 1:49 PM PDT reply actions  

you’re lucky. the video game season doesn’t start for about a month

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve enjoyed most of the conversation today

by keithc13 on Oct 27, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the day I play a video game it will be the first time, I peaked with pong

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

At least you didn’t date yourself

(WTF is a Pong???)

j/k Im old enough to have enjoyed Pong

by keithc13 on Oct 27, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

i had atari as a kid.. frogger FTMFW

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Loved Frogger

Also Pitfall and River Raid FTMFW.

And the ET game can go fuck itself.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2011 2:48 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

and the original Pac-Man. both bitter disappointments.

by kinbote on Oct 27, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Burger Time, Dig Dug and Circus Atari.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 27, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oops I fell in the pit. Shit I can’t get out. What fun.

by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Oct 27, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha, when people bring up the Z key, is it basically a nice way of trying to let people know they cant stand whats being talked about?

by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s more about being bored by long subthreads than not standing them — video games, movies, food, etc. that don’t appeal to everybody.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 27, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

dam, food doesnt appeal to everybody? yeah I see what your saying, but not all baseball stuff appeals to everyone either right? even though it is a baseball thread though. But some stuff is over the top.

by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

You haven’t seen over the top until you have seen what we have to come up during the winter. Eric wants two new articles a day and if he does not get them, he brings out the whip.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

the past couple offseasons have been fun

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I bet, thats what I was alluding to. In general, on most baseball blogs, current baseball news gets slow, and so some stuff feels forced… Maybe the majority of the reader base feeds off everything and anything baseball, but some dont, I dont think. But thats why I love it here, because it seems open to talk off topic stuff, as well as join in the baseball conversation when it appeals to you.

by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is a baseball blog, after all. But I’m sure some people Z through when we wax poetic about Mike Davis or Bill Sudakis or whatever.

And everyone likes food, of course, but not everybody is keen on reading a dozen recipes for eggplant parmigiana or techniques of rendering bacon fat.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 27, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just for that I’m going home tonight and cooking my hamburger in my bacon grease

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

You showed me!

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 27, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah I understand….

by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I feel the same way about books, cant stand them, hate when people talk about them. If you want to get rid of me, talk about books hahaha

by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love food

But I couldn’t care less about reading about it.

That’s how a lot of people feel about the video game, tv, movie, etc… discussions.

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by Ivdown on Oct 27, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I enjoy architecture, but I rarely dance about it.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 27, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know you love video games Phil :)

Or even if you could understand how to play them :P

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by Ivdown on Oct 27, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m with you. I’m not a big video game fan either.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 27, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love how Mr. Angelino really thought Jack got all that pussy.

by delias man on Oct 27, 2011 1:50 PM PDT reply actions  

he did, it was just off camera

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would really enjoy Party Rock

if it was only the beat and not any type of singing

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 1:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Has anyone watched “Man Up” on ABC?

I watched the other night for the first time and thought it was pretty funny.

by keithc13 on Oct 27, 2011 1:58 PM PDT reply actions  

my brother auditioned for that.

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thats cool. So you hate it, right?

by keithc13 on Oct 27, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

never watched it, lol. That was my only contribution

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 27, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

you doing beavis and butthead tonight?

by delias man on Oct 27, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

dude, im so excited for beavis and butthead tonight… I use to love that show, and that was pre Lincecum. Its only gonna be that much better on Lincecum.

by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are you saying you’re going to watch it stoned or that you’re going to trash somebody’s apartment?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 27, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, stoned, did he really trash someones apartment??

by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 27, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s not Tim Allen’s show, is it?

Can you describe “Man up” in two sentences or less?

by Eric Stephen on Oct 27, 2011 2:07 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

if it is like 90% of the other married sitcoms in history

“Idiot husband, hot wife who starts out just a little heavy but ends up a twig by season two”

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s Last Man Standing.

Man Up probably won’t live long. So it probably doesn’t matter.

"It's a five letter word, S-T-R-I-K-E."

by Alex41592 on Oct 27, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

3 Friends from Middle School all work together.

All have problems and funny shit ensues.

by keithc13 on Oct 27, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

McCourt attorney on Mason and Ireland at 2:15, Slick Rick at 3.

by oshea2002 on Oct 27, 2011 2:02 PM PDT reply actions  

that sounds like a section of the bible

by wukunlin on Oct 27, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Any of the developers here have a Javascript date picker they like? There’s hundreds of options out there.

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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 2:06 PM PDT reply actions  

pick the one that can make a date shake after it pits the date.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

jquery ui

but it doesn’t have a time component, but someone out there made one that includes a time component

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

http://jqueryui.com/demos/datepicker/

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s what I figured. Don’t want time so that’s great.

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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Take it to the hack thread

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 27, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought he was talking about taxicabs.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 27, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

For the life of me I can’t figure out who next year’s 2b will be. Any competition that features a wounded Uribe, a free agent Carroll, an unproven Sellers, and a terrible DeJesus worries me. Couple that with the lack of quality free agent options . . . we just might have to swing a trade to get one.

by kinbote on Oct 27, 2011 2:46 PM PDT reply actions  

I feel like Uribe will play 3rd 85% of the season

2B is a real mystery.

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by Ivdown on Oct 27, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kelly Johnson (should’ve signed him a couple years ago), Clint Barmes, Mark Ellis, Aaron Hill?

My god, I feel like I could almost be convinced into giving the full-time job to Aaron Miles.

by kinbote on Oct 27, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ramirez to 3rd, Uribe plays 2nd, problem solved.

by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Johnson would work. Although I hate to add more .300 OBP players to the team…

by eitherethier on Oct 27, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Depending on how much he costs

I’d like to get Kelly Johnson. Mark Ellis would be a cool fielding option.

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by Ivdown on Oct 27, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t mind Aaron Hill, but his Arizona bounceback probably means he’ll command a biggish salary.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 27, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

He still ended up super shitty

I just checked the number expecting something better, but he was still so awful overall.

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by Ivdown on Oct 27, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even Kevin Towers said publically that they weren’t gonna go crazy over 6 weeks of good play.

by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Oct 27, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reacquire Blake Dewitt.

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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

tl;dr

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

ultimate conclusion
It’s a tenuous balance, reinforced every time ESPN’s journalists prove their loyalty to the audience — but undermined every time the veil is pulled back on the contractual process. As the money in college football increases, the reasons for the audience to question ESPN’s loyalty will grow. As long as ESPN maintains its journalistic standards and increases reporting resources devoted to college sports — even as its business interests in colleges grows — the network should assuage most of its understandably skeptical critics.

by Josie Becker on Oct 27, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

basically

ESPN’s creditability is maintained by keeping the journalists separate from the business folk, but it’s not always smooth

by Josie Becker on Oct 27, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeremiah Bell said Reggie Bush stinks. They’re teammates.

by silverwidow on Oct 27, 2011 3:11 PM PDT reply actions  

maybe he has mold on his shower sandals

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeremiah Bell is the realest man in the NFL.

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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

And to be fair, because Yeremiah Bell is a Dolphin Reggie Bush said Bell stinks via the transitive property.

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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reggie Bush does suck, but who the fuck is Yeremiah Bell?? Stephania Bell’s brother??

by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s not the transitive property at all.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 27, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reggie Bush “we [the Dolphins] stink”

Yeremiah Bell is a Dolphin

Q.E.D. Reggie Bush said Yeremiah Bell stinks

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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, but that’s not the transitive property, that’s the law of syllogism. Huh huh, I said gism.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 27, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Humma’s from Schenectady. That’s practically the same thing.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 27, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

your just mad I beat your five dollar word with a seven dollar word : )

by Josie Becker on Oct 27, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nah, I’m hatin’ that you pointed it out while using “your” instead of “you’re” :)

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 27, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! wrote on Twitter that there are several signs the lockout could be on the verge of ending, including team executives cancelling scouting trips and preparing for free agency.

by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 3:23 PM PDT reply actions  

He also said that agents are starting to get involved with teams regarding free agents, and while this is all very good news, it’s important to remember that it could fall apart once they meet in large groups instead of small ones. And while there’s still some hope at getting in 82 games, that seems like a stretch to us especially as the owners would call it a victory if they didn’t have to pay the players for a full season. In any case, the level of optimism hasn’t been this high yet. The two small groups are still in meetings in New York as of now.

by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

These are the important details.

"It's a five letter word, S-T-R-I-K-E."

by Alex41592 on Oct 27, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha thats funny. They have been going at it for awhile now over that game. I think they are inching closer to a resolution.

by uschris0304 on Oct 27, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had never seen, before now

Game 7 of the 1986 World Series, so I’d never seen how crazy Shea went at the end. Place got loud. I’d also never seen how sad Darryl Strawberry looked as the fans in Boston taunted Darryl in Game 5, and as such had never gotten the Simpsons’ joke until now : )

by Josie Becker on Oct 27, 2011 3:28 PM PDT reply actions  

At Game 7 of the 1988 NLCS, the volume of the DAY-ROLL chant was unbelievable and the cadence was haunting. He looked rattled from where I sat to be sure. I was a very happy little Nolij.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 27, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

SI_JonHeyman
folks seem to think the nationals are going to make big play for cj wilson. $75-80M is best guess.

OH NO. What will Ned do now???!? :)

by silverwidow on Oct 27, 2011 3:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Offer 90 and make him a long man?

by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Oct 27, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bullpen shoreupping like a boss!

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 27, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I feel stupid cause I can’t recognize this guy

by lnickerson88 on Oct 27, 2011 3:54 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

duckbill

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 27, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

George (don’t call me Cheryl) Sherrill

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 27, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Strasberg
Wilson
Zimmerman
Lannan
Livan

Espinosa
Werth
Zimmermann
Morse
LaRoche
Ramos
Bernidina
Desmond

Add Bryce Harper to that and now you’ve got yourself a team.

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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

2012 Bryce Harper will suck in the bigs. Hope they don’t do him like that.

by silverwidow on Oct 27, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, no way harper is ready. Isn’t he 18?

by lnickerson88 on Oct 27, 2011 3:55 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Just turned 19.

Hitting .244/.327/.467in the AFL.

by silverwidow on Oct 27, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

With a good line drive and low BABIP.

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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s holding his own in the AFL and he turned 18 a week ago. Beasting in the first half and then getting called up isn’t out of the question.

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by regfairfield on Oct 27, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh sure

defend another team’s prospects. :)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 27, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

He may be the first prospect for whom when they question his makeup, they’re really just questioning his make-up.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 27, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’ll be Justin Uptoning it by August

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

You forgot the Wang, I think Livan becomes whatever they want.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Livan his own terms.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 27, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Folk being CJ Wilsons representatives

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

speculating is fun

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 27, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

What a guy
Boras told the Post that Soriano won’t exercise the opt-out clause in his three-year deal, thus remaining in pinstripes for 2012.

Soriano is set to earn $11 million next year and $14 million in 2013

www.mlb.com

by kinbote on Oct 27, 2011 4:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Cashman laughs as he lights his cigars with $1,000 bills. Maybe the only setup pitcher who can make Guerrier seem like a bargain.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

SBNation blows right around this time

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 27, 2011 4:12 PM PDT reply actions  

anyone see

this vid of Griff Erickson on Dodgers.com?

Mostly talks about his Dad’s influence on him, but also gives some insight on his switch-hitting and some of the pitchers he’s caught.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 27, 2011 4:24 PM PDT reply actions  

new thread?

or are we staying here?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 27, 2011 5:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Move along

and talk about the Rangers winning their first championship.

http://www.truebluela.com/2011/10/27/2519432/world-series-game-6

"It's a five letter word, S-T-R-I-K-E."

by Alex41592 on Oct 27, 2011 5:11 PM PDT reply actions  

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