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MLB Free Agency Begins Tonight

Aaron Miles and Jamey Carroll are two of the 10 Dodgers who will be free agents after 9 p.m. PDT Saturday night.

Now that the World Series is over, we can shift our full attention to the offseason. Free agency in Major League Baseball begins Saturday night at 9 p.m. PDT. In case you forgot from our roster breakdown earlier this month, the Dodgers have 10 free agents:

MLB teams are allowed to sign their own free agents for four days, then after 9 p.m. PDT Wednesday night, November 2, free agents are allowed to sign with new clubs.

General manager Ned Colletti has expressed vague interest in bringing back several of these free agents, so I will open this up to the community. How many of these 10 players will be Dodgers in 2012? I will set the over/under at 3.5.

Let the hot stove begin!

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I think each of these guys have reason to stay, and the club has reason to sign them back. However, I find each has a reason to not be re-signed, and that’s enough for me to think someone new will be brought in.

by G.Scott on Oct 29, 2011 9:40 AM PDT reply actions  

I have to say I would like these three back.(though not for logical reasoning, but wishful thinking.
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Kuroda
Carroll
Broxton
Of course, Ned will work something out so that he doesn’t get a draft pick for Barajas.

by Gen3blue on Oct 29, 2011 9:51 AM PDT reply actions  

If Rod Barajas is offered arbitration, he’d be an absolute idiot to decline it. We’re not getting a draft pick for Rod Barajas

by G.Scott on Oct 29, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ned will spend $20M on Kuroda and Rivera

Kuroda – 1 yr/$12M (no deferrals)
Rivera – 2 yr/$8M

No promises on a starting job for Rivera but he’ll get plenty of ABs at 1B (if Loney returns) and OF.

by silverwidow on Oct 29, 2011 10:02 AM PDT reply actions  

I got scared because I first saw the subject only and was trying to figure out how Kuroda and Rivera would add up to $20 million in 2012. But then I saw two years for Rivera. :)

by Eric Stephen on Oct 29, 2011 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

These moves might kill the budget

120 million right there. Not much left for improving the offense any further. Hmmm.

by silverwidow on Oct 29, 2011 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Odds are against Kuroda enjoying another DL free season – Pass
Rivera, let another team give him $4 mil. per – Pass
Blake is done – Pass
Garland is done – Pass
Broxton, a change of scenery is needed – Pass
Padilla is done – Pass
Barajas is way past his prime – Pass
Carroll or Miles for utility only.
MacDougal – Yes

So this leaves 2, Carroll and MacDougal

by 68elcamino427 on Oct 29, 2011 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

odds are against us getting a pitcher more valuable then kuroda

even if he gets injured

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by nolander on Oct 29, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why can’t Kuroda stay off the DL exactly?

by Table on Oct 29, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

the back of his neck is jacked up

by 68elcamino427 on Oct 29, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mac is the one I want least of all the free agents.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 30, 2011 12:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think he’s serviceable as a 7th inning guy. We all know the ugly truth behind his sparkling ERA. I’d rather have him out there than Guerrier

by Jack Huber on Oct 30, 2011 5:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Then you don’t know the truth behind his sparkling ERA.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 30, 2011 7:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s a very interesting name for me. Love the walks.

by silverwidow on Oct 29, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

“Grady” is a very interesting name for anyone.

by berkowit28 on Oct 29, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sizemore. Little. Fuson. The thing that comes free with a Slap Chop.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 30, 2011 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agree. I think a cheap grady sizemore could be an awesome pickup

by court168627 on Oct 29, 2011 11:25 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

he’s 29 years old now and hasn’t been good since 2008. He’s practically James Loney with a longer track record.

by G.Scott on Oct 29, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

He's a good fielder and has had past success

I think he could be good again.

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by Ivdown on Oct 29, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

During his prime from 05-08 his K% stuck at or below 20%, the last two years it’s been 25%(2010) and 28.8% (2011). That’s led to very low averages. Not only that, but he’s gone from walking from 10-13% of the time, to just 6%. His defense has gone from elite to not even average. He did not steal a single base last season. The only thing that showed up a little in 2011 was his power as he hit 10 homers in 71 games. Overall, I just can’t see a reason to be interested in this guy for anything resembling an MLB contract.

by Table on Oct 29, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t go that far.

by G.Scott on Oct 29, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man

I know he’ll probly go to the A’s or something, but I’d LOVE to take a chance on him for LF with a ton of incentives. To have a good back up they could resign Rivera for the main bench bat and backup LF.

Any idea how much it would take to get him?

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by Ivdown on Oct 29, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

as opposed to Grady and Sands, right?

I think we’d get more offense out of the first pair, but Grady won’t cost as much as Loney and it will be better defense in left out of grady.

I’d be fine with either option.

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by Ivdown on Oct 29, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure Grady is actually that good a fielder anymore

he might be cheaper then loney though, but not by much

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by nolander on Oct 29, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn you're right

I didn’t notice his fielding had declined a lot the last 3 years.

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by Ivdown on Oct 29, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

health problems are a hell of a drug

by G.Scott on Oct 29, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Loney is less of a risk that Grady, and he’s also probably better

by Table on Oct 29, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

There is just no way Sizemore magically becomes the player he once was. He sustained career altering injuries. Maybe he can be better than last season, but he’s still not going to be much more than average. No point taking a big risk just to find an average player.

by Table on Oct 29, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I never really looked at this before

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.cgi?id=kershcl01&t=p&year=2009&share=0.37#30-53-sum:pitching_gamelogs

But in 2009 after starting off with a 5.21 ERA by his 7th start, he had a 2.10 ERA the rest of the season on. This spanned 133 innings with 146 ks, 71 walks, and only 88 hits allowed. The walks were definitely high back then, but it’s so impressive some of the runs he goes on. I was reading some old stuff on Kershaw and someone mentioned he had 5 runs allowed in 9 starts during the summer of 09, which I remembered, but just seeing the numbers again is staggering.

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by Ivdown on Oct 29, 2011 10:38 AM PDT reply actions  

I wonder what type of contract Broxton is looking at. He had so much success before the 2nd half of 2010, then he was shitty then he had the injury. In my mind he could still be good or even great, but as a reliever i’m not sure he will be given the benefit of the doubt so he may have to work for his next contract by signing low with incentives.

I’d still like him to come back if it’s not for more than say 2.5 million, though i’m not sure how realistic that may be.

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by Ivdown on Oct 29, 2011 10:43 AM PDT reply actions  

maybe similar to Sherril’s last year?

by eitherethier on Oct 29, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I honestly think he will sign pretty cheap

work as a 7th inning or set up guy, then regain some of hi value and be good for other teams.

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by Ivdown on Oct 29, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

What I’d like: Kuroda.

What will happen: Carroll, Miles, MacDougal, Rivera.

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by regfairfield on Oct 29, 2011 11:10 AM PDT reply actions  

3.5

is a good Over/Under. I will say we sign 3-1/2 of them and bet the push! :)

by Xeifrank on Oct 29, 2011 11:11 AM PDT reply actions  

Does Broxton count as 1.5 because of his size?

Or does Miles count as 0.5 ;)

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by Ivdown on Oct 29, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

FA

Rod Barajas 0.35
Casey Blake 0.15
Jonathan Broxton 0.30
Jamey Carroll 0.30
Jon Garland 0.15
Hiroki Kuroda 0.70
Mike MacDougal 0.20
Aaron Miles 0.25
Vicente Padilla 0.15
Juan Rivera 0.75

3.3 keepers ??

by Xeifrank on Oct 29, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I see Kuroda, Miles, Rivera, and maybe even Padilla on the team next year.

by eitherethier on Oct 29, 2011 11:15 AM PDT reply actions  

I think we will resign Kuroda, Barajas, Miles, and Rivera

by dodgers4life on Oct 29, 2011 11:19 AM PDT reply actions  

Dodgers bring back miles, barajas, and rivera. Personally, I don’t think it could hurt to take a close-to-league-minimum swing on Padilla and Garland

by court168627 on Oct 29, 2011 11:23 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

No Kuroda?

I doubt we sign Padilla or Garland because they have health problems. Are their any good pitchers in free agency this year?

by dodgers4life on Oct 29, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

We signed both of those guys last year knowing they had health problems, why not now?

by G.Scott on Oct 29, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t have the payroll to roll the dice on a guy whose upside is Jon Garland?

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by regfairfield on Oct 29, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

they might be even cheaper now

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by nolander on Oct 29, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chris Capuano, Freddy Garcia, Bartolo Colon, Bruce Chen, Jeff Francis, Dontrelle Willis, Jason Marquis, and Livan Hernandez are some of the 4th/5th starter types off the top of my head.

Mark Buerhle, Roy Oswalt, Kuroda, Edwin Jackson, are the better pitchers whom the Dodgers might have a shot at. Then of course there is Sabathia and WIlson at the top.

Darvish, Wada, and Iwakuma are often mentioned as well, but hard to tell exactly what type of MLB pitchers those NPBers would make.

by Table on Oct 29, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

All of those 4th/5th starter types managed near 4 eras and lots of innings in 2011

by Table on Oct 29, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just checked MLBTradeRumors, here’s whom I left out:

Erik Bedard, Aaron Cook, Kyle Davies, Doug Davis, Rich Harden, Kevin Millwood, Brad Penny, Joel Piniero, Tim Wakefield, Chien Ming Wang, Brandon Webb, Chris Young, Armando Gallaraga, Rodrigo Lopez, Sergio Mitre, and Mitch Talbot.

Zach Duke, Paul Malholm, and Aaron Harang also have the change to become free agents depending on how their options turn out.

by Table on Oct 29, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oswalt would be nice

But i’m unsure what he would cost. I want Edwin Jackson to be honest.

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by Ivdown on Oct 29, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

They could replace Kuroda, but they would take more years to sign. Would not leave much room in the rotation for the young guys. For 2012 that would be OK, but come 2013 there would be just one spot for De La Rosa, Eovaldi, Webster, Withrow, Lee, Gould, etc.

by Table on Oct 29, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess it’s insane to assume even if we ate half the money on his 2013 slate that we could trade Ted Lilly.

Honestly I’d be fine with having Kershaw, Bills, Oswalt/Jackson, and Lilly (likely 5th, unless some team does us a solid) as 4 of the 5. Really I’m assuming De La Rosa would be the most likely for the rotation, but I think the other guys would really have to be kicked the door down to deserve a spot, which would be fine with me. If that does happen where 2 or more of them are ready, I’m sure Jackson/Oswalt could be traded for something else to make room.

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by Ivdown on Oct 29, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

We could also trade a couple pitching prospects for a bat.

by dodgers4life on Oct 29, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

There's always that option

and then of course most of the pitchers listed will either flame out or become bullpen arms.

I think of the pitching prospects we’ve got, De La Rosa (not really a prospect anymore) and Lee are the ones who will be MLB starters with good upside. The rest could become flame outs or pull an Elbert and be a good bullpen arm (I’m looking at Eo and Withrow).

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by Ivdown on Oct 29, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think they all have shots to be 4th/5th starters though, if Kershaw and Bilingsley are 1-2, the Dodgers would just need a 3 (De La Rosa).

by Table on Oct 29, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Possibly?

2012
Kershaw
BIllingsley
Kuroda
Lilly
free agent

2013
Kershaw
Billingsley
Lilly
De La Rosa
Eovaldi/Withrow/Webster

2014
Kershaw
Billingsley
De La Rosa
Eovaldi/Withrow/Webster
Lee/Gould

by Table on Oct 29, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

The way Logan pimps Chris Reed, you might need to slot him in there.

by silverwidow on Oct 29, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

i wanna fast forward to 2014

by L.A.JOSHER on Oct 30, 2011 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

If that’s the plan, I have no beef. You can always adjust as necessary.

by Table on Oct 29, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lol I kinda resent how I acted like those numerical labels actually have meaning.

by Table on Oct 29, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

why is it reasonable to still consider Chad Billingsley a #2 starter?

by G.Scott on Oct 29, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s true, I suppose it’s true what they say about never having too much pitching. None the less, I in no way expect the Dodgers to have the money to win the bidding for Oswalt or Jackson. It would be so easy for other teams…they would just add on a few extra mill knowing how strapped for cash the Dodgers are. The only great pitcher we could get would be Kuroda since he probably would negotiate exclusively with the Dodgers.

by Table on Oct 29, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

But I agree Jackson would be a great addition.

by Table on Oct 29, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kuroda and Carroll are absolutely the priorities. With guys like Rivera and Barajas, there are a bunch of similar free agents that will be around, no need to rush and sign either of them. I doubt any of the others would be signed during this period.

by Table on Oct 29, 2011 11:46 AM PDT reply actions  

I’m in this camp. Rivera I would offer for cheap, but the plan is for him to be a bench/platoon guy if he’s a Dodger. Someone else is going to pay him starter money and we have no reason to match that. Carroll is valuable for his flexibility. Unless someone gives him big bucks or he really wants to be a starter (someone would have to provide an opportunity) he will end up getting PA’s. Someone in that IF is getting injured this year (looking at you Uribe).

by BoilerAero on Oct 29, 2011 12:56 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

No one is going to make a guy who can’t play defense and OPSed .700 a starter.

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by regfairfield on Oct 29, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

OPS if overrated. Check out the free agent infielders. Carroll is one of the best

by Table on Oct 29, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

pretty sure he was talking about Rivera

by eitherethier on Oct 29, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m talking about Rivera.

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by regfairfield on Oct 29, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

In that case I totally agree. Rivera is nothing special. Jamie Hoffman might even be better seeing as how he could probably OPS .650 and with better defense/baserunning

by Table on Oct 29, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Alex Castellanos has been good in the AFL

by Table on Oct 29, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's probly better to go off of slugging and obp rather than just lumping them together

But hard to say it’s overrated.

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by Ivdown on Oct 29, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Probably would have made more sense to mention how low the average infielder's ops has been.

by Table on Oct 29, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Carroll’s OBP from 2009-2010 was the second best of all second basemen, no matter what, that has value.

by Table on Oct 29, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

was also the best of his career, but he’s old. Im not sure I would roll those dice again unless he comes cheap.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 29, 2011 1:19 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Doug Davis, isn’t he like 75 years old? Maybe we can give Hoyt Wilhelm an incentive laden contract or Grover Cleveland Alexander if he’s out of rehab.

by preacher roe on Oct 29, 2011 12:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Re-signing Kuroda, Carroll, Barajas, and Rivera would be nice. After that, get someone off the FA market or re-sign one of the injured guys since Eo isnt ready yet.

by shaqfor3 on Oct 29, 2011 12:46 PM PDT reply actions  

OT but TV newsfail

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by underdog on Oct 29, 2011 1:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Death is definitely one of the worst parts of being killed.

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by underdog on Oct 29, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Suck it Charter

Fios is now installed and working at the Stephen Compound. Hat tip to ivdown.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 29, 2011 1:36 PM PDT reply actions  

I now have Fox Soccer Channel in HD. The real reason for the switch.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 29, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I knew that kid was good for something!

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Oct 29, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Very few things

But damn if I can’t sell phone tv and internet!

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by Ivdown on Oct 29, 2011 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t tell your uncles that a) you have the Fox Soccer Channel or b) that you know you have the Fox Soccer Channel.

by KellyStephen on Oct 29, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah

I hope you enjoy it. Let me know if you have any problems.

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by Ivdown on Oct 29, 2011 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not available where I live…..

:(

by keithc13 on Oct 31, 2011 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

You should live in a better place :)

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by Ivdown on Oct 31, 2011 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

You should live in a better place :)

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by Ivdown on Oct 31, 2011 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rec’d

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Oct 29, 2011 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pujols is 31 this year

Not too old there.

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by Ivdown on Oct 29, 2011 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

A lot of people would like to dispute his age.

by keithc13 on Oct 31, 2011 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

your picks not so good this weekend

by delias man on Oct 31, 2011 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

lol….

I suck like everyone else

by keithc13 on Oct 31, 2011 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I laugh at those people

He was playing community college ball and drafted in the 13th round, and had gone to high school in the US.

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by Ivdown on Oct 31, 2011 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

was this really rec'd?

i think th assumption is that one of these guys would be kemp’s protection.

by stevesaxaphone on Oct 30, 2011 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rec’d because I don’t think the Dodgers can’t afford to lose Kemp, and probably can’t get either of the two free agents.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Oct 30, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

In case anyone was wondering about Ryan Dempster, he exercised his $14 million player option today to return to the Cubs.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 29, 2011 2:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Speaking of, can someone explain MLBTR's thinking here?

In their new piece on free agent and trade candidate CFers, they added this:

The Giants’ Andres Torres is an even more extreme example; he projects at $2.5MM through arbitration and was arguably worth over ten times that amount last year.

Am I misunderstanding this, or are they arguing that Torres is worth 10x 2.5mm? Because I… don’t see that.

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by underdog on Oct 29, 2011 3:04 PM PDT reply actions  

this is the piece btw

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/10/free-agent-and-trade-market-for-center-fielders.html

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by underdog on Oct 29, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

he was dogshit last year

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by nolander on Oct 29, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

maybe they meant panda?

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by nolander on Oct 29, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

to play centerfield? ;)

not sure what they meant. Maybe “ten times less”?

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by underdog on Oct 29, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

heh

ten times less would make more sense

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by nolander on Oct 29, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

They have got to be talking about 2010

but he wasn’t all that great.

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by Ivdown on Oct 29, 2011 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Troy Renck of the Denver Post said Jason Giambi will come back to the Rockies in 2012. He had a mutual option for $1 million, and Renck says that deal is now done.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 29, 2011 3:24 PM PDT reply actions  

I will enjoy watching him sit on the bench as Kershaw throws his second career perfect game.

by G.Scott on Oct 29, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

First at Coors though

by Eric Stephen on Oct 29, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

We should plan the reunion around a Dodger visit. They’re there the first weekend of June and the last week of August. Chances are that’s a miss. Too bad.

by KellyStephen on Oct 29, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

1mils is a bargain given the #s he puts up even if he’s mostly a pinch hitter

by Joey Joe on Oct 29, 2011 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

The D-Backs entire coaching staff, who were all signed through 2012, were all extended through 2013 today, per NIck Piecoro of the Arizona Republic. Don Baylor wasn’t yet extended but only because he was busy in Venezuela managing winter league.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 29, 2011 3:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Over and Under pool

I will go with 3:

Kuroda
Rivera-think two years is not half bad-but figure of 8 million 4X2, part of it has to be with incentives
Barajs: He has some power

by wineracquet on Oct 29, 2011 5:02 PM PDT reply actions  

That Rivera contract would be god awful.

by Table on Oct 29, 2011 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yay baseball!
Fox said the game, in which the Cardinals clinched their 11th World Series, garnered a 16.2 rating and a 28 share of the viewing audience Friday night. It was the highest overnight rating for a World Series game since Game 4 of the 2004 Series, which drew a rating of 19.7 and a 29 share as the Boston Red Sox ended their 86-year-Series-winning-drought by beating the Cardinals.

link

by Josie Becker on Oct 29, 2011 5:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Also per MLB:

When the Cardinals won the World Series, 89% of households in St. Louis that had their televisions on were tuned in to see the game.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 29, 2011 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is almost unbelievable! With all of the channels available today, to have a TV in almost 9 of 10 homes tuned into the game just blows my mind. Sounds more like the 1960’s to me….

by latenite on Oct 29, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

just proves it’s still possible to focus the nation on a national live event

by Josie Becker on Oct 29, 2011 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or, at least St. Louis!

by latenite on Oct 29, 2011 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not quite – roughly just 3 of 10 households where at least one TV was on during the game. Not the same as 3 in 10 households, since sometimes people are gone or doing other things. Still, quite an amazing number!

by latenite on Oct 29, 2011 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

And many people watch the games at other households/sports bars/etc.

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by Nolij on Oct 30, 2011 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rivera and Carroll I think for sure some back.
Doubt any of the other guys.

And I also doubt the Dodgers sign Kuroda in this 4 day window.
He probably needs alot longer to decide if he comes back.

OT – but is it a prerequisite for USC cheerleaders to have large breasts? I see other college cheerleaders and they are more athletic gymnast types, not playboy bunny types.

by Joey Joe on Oct 29, 2011 5:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Yankees exercised 2012 options on Cano (duh) and Swisher, per Heyman

by Eric Stephen on Oct 29, 2011 5:50 PM PDT reply actions  

who wants that bum

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by Ivdown on Oct 29, 2011 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Robert Woods is out of it tonight. He’s just screwing up left and right.

by VegasBlues on Oct 29, 2011 6:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Couple of huge plays ended up drops.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 29, 2011 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hollywood Joe

And I had a great time at the Rose Bowl today. Good food, good wine and good game.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 29, 2011 8:00 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

The Rose Bowl is a great place to spend a fall saturday afternoon. Especially when the Bruins win.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Oct 29, 2011 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

BRUINS WIN

BRUINS WIN

God, that was fun

by Hollywood Joe on Oct 29, 2011 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Huge punt return for Stanford

by Eric Stephen on Oct 29, 2011 8:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Pick six. I love it. Boise State is winning tonight and not even playing. Thanks USC!

by VegasBlues on Oct 29, 2011 8:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Clemson and Kansas State going down today is huge too.

by VegasBlues on Oct 29, 2011 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate USC even more now…

by VegasBlues on Oct 29, 2011 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just got back from working the UCLA game

Turn on my TV and see the pick six. That was electric.

"It's a five letter word, S-T-R-I-K-E."

by Alex41592 on Oct 29, 2011 8:21 PM PDT reply actions  

I hated that call (Person foul for hitting a player high) when it happened to ND last week. I hate it this week for USC. It’s impossible for a DB to guess that the WR is going to go down.

by VegasBlues on Oct 29, 2011 8:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah not a fan of it one bit

It was a huge different from USC with the big advantage to win and going to OT

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by Ivdown on Oct 29, 2011 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Be rather ballsy for them to go for 2

by Joey Joe on Oct 29, 2011 8:31 PM PDT reply actions  

If this was NFL OT rules I’d say they should have gone for 2 (since they are on the road). College rules change everything though.

by VegasBlues on Oct 29, 2011 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lol Woods…time took too much and no FG attempt.

by Joey Joe on Oct 29, 2011 8:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Hell of a touchdown just now!

Got hit twice but kept fighting

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by Ivdown on Oct 29, 2011 8:58 PM PDT reply actions  

I checked the score at half and it was 10-6

I turned it on with 9 left in the 4th and it was 27-24. Looked like an offensive explosion in the 3rd for how it started.

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by Ivdown on Oct 29, 2011 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm really annoyed by all the scrambling from Luck

It just makes me feel like I’m watching Vince Young again.

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by Ivdown on Oct 29, 2011 9:01 PM PDT reply actions  

thats most college qbs these days

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 29, 2011 9:34 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

This game is going to murder me

by Eric Stephen on Oct 29, 2011 9:13 PM PDT reply actions  

better than being killed to death

by Hollywood Joe on Oct 29, 2011 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

what a way to lose

by Joey Joe on Oct 29, 2011 9:14 PM PDT reply actions  

what a shitty ending

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by Ivdown on Oct 29, 2011 9:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Some huge games coming up:

Oregon – Stanford
LSU – Alabama
Oklahoma – Oklahoma State

by Joey Joe on Oct 29, 2011 9:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Andy Luck sounds like Tony Robbins.

by silverwidow on Oct 29, 2011 9:17 PM PDT reply actions  

So, Cal’s the worst at football.

BUT GOD DAMN IF IT’S NOT THE BEST DAMN UNIVERSITY IN THE LAND!

by Josie Becker on Oct 29, 2011 9:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Thank goodness for Colorado.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 30, 2011 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

i'm a cu alumni

that grew up a cal fan.

this hurts.

by stevesaxaphone on Oct 30, 2011 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

I suspect I will be saying this Friday night

by Eric Stephen on Oct 30, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Stanford may or may not have covered depending on when you bet

by Eric Stephen on Oct 29, 2011 9:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Happy free agency

Unless, of course, you’re Ronald Belisario. :)

by silverwidow on Oct 29, 2011 9:20 PM PDT reply actions  

40-man roster update

Only 30 players on it now. About three weeks away from adding minor leaguers (maybe 3-5 spots), so there’s plenty of room this year.

by silverwidow on Oct 29, 2011 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

when a bear shits in the rose bowl, does anyone smell it?

YES

by Hollywood Joe on Oct 29, 2011 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great game

Stanford ended up winning but they just vanished from the BCS picture.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 29, 2011 9:54 PM PDT reply actions  

holding in OT

what happened on that one holding penalty against Stanford in OT when the ball didn’t get moved back 10 yards? USC coach was going crazy, but the announcers didn’t pursue it at all.

by Xeifrank on Oct 29, 2011 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whatever

It was, once they ran the next play, it no longer mattered. If Kiffen thought it was wrong, he should have called timeout.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 29, 2011 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, I’m just looking for an explanation from a fan’s perspective.

by Xeifrank on Oct 29, 2011 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was holding past the line of scrimmage so it’s from the spot of the foul.

by VegasBlues on Oct 29, 2011 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think the spot of the foul was the 12 yard line though. The QB was tackled at around the 20 yard line. The holding looked to be at around the line of scrimmage which was the 25 yard line. ??

by Xeifrank on Oct 29, 2011 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’re probably right. I was cooking dinner at the time so wasn’t able to pay that close of attention.

by VegasBlues on Oct 29, 2011 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

That I do. Too late for my liking but I live with my sister and her family and she works until 8 on most days (or somewhere around that time).

by VegasBlues on Oct 29, 2011 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I haven’t eaten anything since before the game. I think it was 3:30 or so. Maybe I’m just hungry.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 29, 2011 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

HJ

Made a great Roman style pasta that we ate while watching the end of the USC vs. Stanford game. I grated the two cheeses we used for the pasta.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 29, 2011 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

it was welcome help

I hate grating the cheese!

what a fun, fun, day!

by Hollywood Joe on Oct 29, 2011 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

They barely beat an unranked team in 3OT, but they still have the reputation of being USC. They’ll most likely jump Boise State and get into the #4 spot in the nation.

  1. and #2 play next week. #3 Ok St plays OU still later this year and could easily lose to them. Very good chance Stanford gets into the BCS Championship Game. That’s if they can get by Oregon (and the rest of their schedule). After tonight I think Oregon could put a hurting on them.

by VegasBlues on Oct 29, 2011 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

USC

Was not ranked in the BCS or Harris polls but was number 20 in the AP poll this week.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 29, 2011 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just

Prior to the last play of the game, HJ says to me, Stanford could use a fumble

by bhsportsguy on Oct 29, 2011 10:15 PM PDT reply actions  

He’s a witch. If he was alive 375 years ago he’d be burned at the stake! :)

by Xeifrank on Oct 30, 2011 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

seems like someone says this every week

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 30, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rams – 24
Saints – 0

Unbelievable

by Joey Joe on Oct 30, 2011 12:10 PM PDT reply actions  

agreed

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 30, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

were favored by 14

I took them in a parlay involving the giants.. 10$ rip.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 30, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

can’t believe I benched Steven Jackson today

by dodgerpreacher on Oct 30, 2011 12:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Relievers still getting paid

Giants re-signed Javier Lopez for 2 years, $8.5 million, per Associated Press.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 30, 2011 3:06 PM PDT reply actions  

AND they picked up Jeremy Affeldt’s $5 million option, per Hank Schulman.

That’s $9.25 million for those two in 2012.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 30, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe not signing relief pitchers to multiyear deals is the new market inefficiency.

by StolenMonkey86 on Oct 30, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brian Sabaen

Some might call it the stupidity of Brian Sabaen. Just hope is former assistant doesn’t try and copy him!

by wineracquet on Oct 30, 2011 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

that’s a lot for 2 LOOGYs…

by eitherethier on Oct 30, 2011 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

He would have been a nice option for 2B but I wouldn’t be down to give him 6+ million.

by eitherethier on Oct 30, 2011 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good weekend for Hollywood Joe.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 30, 2011 4:20 PM PDT reply actions  

it was!

I am wiped out….

by Hollywood Joe on Oct 30, 2011 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lane Kiffin

Has a valid complaint on the holding call. I looked at it again on the replay and it looks like the ball was placed around the spot of the foul but not moved back 10 yards.

Not sure if he could have called time out to review that but that was a huge difference (2nd and 8 vs. 2nd and 18)

by bhsportsguy on Oct 30, 2011 4:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Making BH's recipe

for Oatmeal/Chocolate Chip cookies tonight. I need to bribe some people at work tomorrow.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 30, 2011 7:32 PM PDT reply actions  

let

Me know how they turn out

by bhsportsguy on Oct 30, 2011 11:00 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

toasting pumpkin seeds

Wild weekend, all Spawn and Folly all the time.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 30, 2011 8:39 PM PDT via iPhone app reply actions   1 recs

best poem you have written yet

by Hollywood Joe on Oct 30, 2011 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

The key to toasting pumpkin seeds is to submerge all of the pumpkin innards — seeds, goop, everything — in a bowl of water. The seeds float right to the top. You pick ‘em off, dry ’em on paper towels, toss with olive oil and salt (and cayenne pepper, if you’re kinky), and toast at 350 for 30 minutes, stirring once. Easy peasy lemon squeezy and so tasty. A necessary and wonderful part of carving a jack o’lantern with one’s children.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 30, 2011 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

now

All you need is the gin

by bhsportsguy on Oct 30, 2011 11:01 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

are there no juicy free agent rumors?

baseball free agency is a snooze fest

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 30, 2011 8:59 PM PDT reply actions  

give a minute

…………………….they cookin a something up

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 30, 2011 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sources close to friends of David Price tell Buster Olney the lefty isn’t going anywhere.

by G.Scott on Oct 30, 2011 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heard this!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 30, 2011 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Getting one of the worst contracts of the offseason signed hours into it isn’t enough?

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Oct 30, 2011 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lopez?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 30, 2011 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep.

Then again enough middle relievers will get three year contracts that I’ll forget about this in three months.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Oct 30, 2011 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

baseball is baseball

even free agency is slow

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 30, 2011 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

can’t they not talk to other teams until thursday?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 30, 2011 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure teams can talk, but just can’t sign free agents from other teams until Wednesday at 9pm.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 30, 2011 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

right

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 30, 2011 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

anyone awake?

"They say The Jet's lost a step or two... but I wouldn't be surprised to see some fireworks here."

by DodgerSF on Oct 30, 2011 11:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Tony LaRussa is retiring. That throws a wrinkle in the Pujols situation, though it’s not like LaRussa was going to be there for his whole contract anyway.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 31, 2011 7:10 AM PDT reply actions  

I just saw that.

You really can’t beat what he and his team were just able to do. Will be interesting to see how that affects the Pujols decision.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 31, 2011 7:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s what I was thinking. What will pujols do now?

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Oct 31, 2011 7:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Nation waits……

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 31, 2011 7:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

go to Disneyworld

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 31, 2011 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

In honor of LaRussa’s career, I made a double-switch of my couch and loveseat.

by fbihop on Oct 31, 2011 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Better than downing a whole bottle of wine and hopping in your car.

Snide comment out of they way, congratulations to TLR on a fine career.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 31, 2011 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Galaxy

Wanted to get Josie’s opinion on that skirmish at the end of the Galaxy playoff game yesterday. In case any of you missed it, it was quite a doozy. When the game ended, with the Galaxy winning in New York 1-0. A player from the New York team picked up the ball and chucked it at one of the Galaxy players and hit him on the leg. One of the other Galaxy players took exception to it and shoved the New York player. The skirmish ended with two New York players down on the ground in the fetal position. Hilarious. In a soccer fight, you can pretty much tell which players are the Americans and which aren’t. Don’t go to the ground unless kicked in the nuts or bleeding badly.

by Xeifrank on Oct 31, 2011 7:45 AM PDT reply actions  

MLB Radio is a tease

They played an ad saying “Let’s talk about the front office changes in Boston, Chicago and Los Angeles.” I got really excited, and then remembered how bad the national media is at geography.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 31, 2011 8:37 AM PDT reply actions  

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