Dodgers Decline 2012 Options On Casey Blake, Jon Garland
by Eric Stephen on Oct 4, 2011 12:49 PM PDT
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In a pair of expected moves on Tuesday, the Dodgers declined the 2012 club options for both Casey Blake and Jon Garland, both of whom spent multiple stints on the disabled list this year and saw their 2011 seasons end early with surgery.
Blake was in the final year of a three-year, $17.5 million contract he signed with the Dodgers before the 2009 season. This year was a nightmare campaign for Blake, who played in just 63 games and hit .252/.342/.371 with four home runs, also known as numbers Juan Uribe would have killed for. Blake began the season on the disabled list with a back injury, then later missed a month with an infected left elbow. In July he battled neck problems that would eventually end his season, but not after Blake played 18 games in August. Blake had neck surgery in September.
The Dodgers will pay Blake a buyout of $1.25 million, compared to what would have been a $6 million salary for 2012.
Blake hit .260/.338/.431 with 75 doubles and 49 home runs in 406 games in his nearly three and half years as a Dodger. He started 366 games at third base, the fifth-most by a Los Angeles Dodger, one behind Pedro Guerrero for fourth.
Garland came into last offseason having started at least 32 games for nine straight years, but also had an MRI that showed years of wear and tear that prevented him from receiving a multi-year deal. The Dodgers paid him a guaranteed $5 million for his one season, which includes a buyout of $500,000 of his 2012 option.
Garland strained his oblique in spring training and missed one start at the beginning of the year. He made nine starts for the Dodgers, going 1-5 with a 4.33 ERA in 54 innings before succumbing to a shoulder injury. He had shoulder surgery in July, which prevented Garland from reaching the 190 innings required for his $8 million 2012 option to automatically vest. By not reaching those 190 innings, the option became a standard club option, which the Dodgers declined on Tuesday.
Blake and Garland are two of 10 pending Dodgers free agents. For a thorough Dodgers roster breakdown, click here.
In addition, the Dodgers also outrighted Eugenio Velez, he of the 0-for-37 season and MLB record 0 for his last 46, to Triple A Albuquerque, removing him from the 40-man roster.
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From the last thread
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/polls?id=7052899
12% of voters want to trash Jerry Sands. Nice.
Really?
I have just the opposite thought: Sands should be similar to Gordon IMO. They both finished the season great.
Ethier's act is wearing thin?
What act? What am I just not seeing that everyone else is?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 4, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
The only ones of those results that I don’t understand are the numbers of people supporting Miles and MacDougal. More than two-thirds of the voters want them back.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
If re-signing McDougal means they’ll look to fill all the bullpen openings with existing/cheap talent, i support it.
by Michael White on Oct 4, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
this
I can have old McDougal back
I don’t want gno more gnome
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 4, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d rather have Tolleson than MacDougal.
by The Dude Abides on Oct 4, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
If only life was so easy we could simply vote away bad contracts.
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isn’t that what the NBA owners want to do?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 4, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
most of the soccer leagues in the world… if you are a season ticket holder you can vote out the GM(club president) every 2 years…
Yeah, my WOW didn’t mean I thought it was a good idea.
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I can start the Loge 143 Gang and we vote in blocks. If you want our vote, we want free dodger dogs every game and all your profit from parking lot 2 on every Friday night.
these demands are delievered in person
with one of you brandishing a tire iron
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 4, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
but I use my ankles
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which is better, that? or....
“Josh, this is a rarity.”
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 4, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
does seem a bit severe
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 4, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
no GM would last
in the MLB
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 4, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
except maybe
Alex Anthopolous
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 4, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Did you mention this to the Dodgers ticket rep that called you the other day?
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she emailed me today too with her cell number to take all the tours i want of the stadium this off-season for free. I will not go on any though.
The tour guides might be attractive.
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In the words of The Boss
You can look but you better not touch boy
You can look but you better not touch boy
Mess around and you’ll end up in dutch boy
You can look but you better not, no you better not, no you better not touch
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I guess Andre is not the fan favorite everyone thinks he is
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neither was Kemp last year
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 4, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
The 1% against Kemp/Clayton/Jansen/Javy has to be the same bloke
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I don't think its his year
but I do think its worth keeping him if he can be had cheap w/ incentives. if this was just a lost injury season then getting him back at anything close to his former self would be awesome.
Jon's
take on this survey, at DT.
I always find these kinds of questions hard to answer when you don’t know what the cost would be in many cases — I wouldn’t trash Jamey Carroll, but I wouldn’t go crazy trying to keep him either — but my biggest question is how Matt Kemp would have fared in such a poll a year ago.
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The silliest part may be this
regarding Billingsley.
Jackson: Contract makes him untradeable,I think a lot of GMs still believe Billingsley can be a solid 3/4 starter and especially at his age (compared to say, Ted Lilly, who signed a similar contract one year ago) is well worth the risk of his 3 year / mid-$30s millions contract.
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I agree, he’s easily tradeable.
Braves have already said that D Lowe will not be in the rotation next year. Ouch 15,000,000.
His peripherals were not much different this year then his previous two years. Eat 10,000,000 I’d take a shot at him. Or other words take Guerrier and Uribe and I’ll take Lowe.
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No!!
The released record-breaking Outfielder, Eugenio Velez??? ;-)
"I'm focused on what's going on down here." Dean Spanos pointing to his crotch
they didn't
they just outrighted him to AAA
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 4, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Shouldn't that be 0-utrighted?
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by underdog on Oct 4, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
yes, yes it should
rec
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 4, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
same
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 4, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
me too but look at this way, even if Dodgers had re-signed him that year instead of Seattle
they still wouldn’t have him now, most likely. ;-)
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should have signed him last offseason
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 4, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
yah, i guess i just never saw that as a possibiility with the current regime in place, alas.
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Holy crap, Beltre with the hat trick today!
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Dave Roberts is a normal sized human being.
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Phillies Lineup
Rollins SS
Utley 2B
Pence RF
Howard 1B
Victorino CF
Mayberry Jr. LF
Polanco 3B
Ruiz C
Hamels P
How in god’s name did Victorino become the #5 hitter on the best team in baseball? I never would’ve bet on that.
Fuc—
Oh, I’ve lost the heart for it.
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Why is Mayberry Junior right handed? What the hell Pop?
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Hey
Mayberry was the Rangers number one pick 2005
Was traded for Greg Golsen
I expect they would like him back
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I like that there have been MLB players
named
Greg Golson and
Gregg Olson.
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and Greg Olson, but that’s not important right now.
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I dare the family
who is bold enough to go with
Greggg
Philllipp
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Both former mid-round #1s, one year apart. Kind of a challenge trade.
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Shockingly, the Phil’s win again.
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He and Van Slyke fucked up for sure.
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They did both get the height.
6’6
and
6’5
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Yeah, I remember seeing SVS on Dodgers Live
Big Dude
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 4, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Andy totally wussed out naming his kid “Scott.”
I think he should have named him Van. Van Van Slyke.
Maybe even Van Lingle Mungo Van Slyke.
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Bride laughs at you
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Bride’s opinion of me has no bearing on any conversation, ever, because she stays with me for no other reason than this emotion that you humans call “love,” whatever that is.
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Not relevant
What is relevant is the mother of the child part.
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Mmmmm. You are suggesting that Bride is lying to me, and telling me what I want to hear, rather than saying she is trapped in a loveless marriage in order to have help in raising her children to adulthood.
You may be right.
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Nope
Just saying, mothers who can spell tend to make sure that fathers don’t make their childs name an inside joke.
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My wife did not get her #1 choice for our daughter’s name. Neither did I. We compromised. All the names were withing the realm of reason though; no Apple in the bunch.
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Seems strange to both not get your first choice. I got first choice on my older son (for first, and amazingly, middle name too). Second was a simultaneous meeting of the minds. We had back-up female names all picked out, which were mostly hers (actually, all hers).
We had the boy name easily agreed upon.
My father wanted to name me – his oldest child – after his late (then and now) father, Dallas Gray Young. My compromised by coming up with names that form the same initials. I wonder how my life would have been different, if at all, had I been named Dallas.
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not as confusing
as “Wuv”
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 4, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Cardinals Lineup
Furcal SS
Craig LF
Pujols 1B
Berkman RF
Freese 3B
Molina C
Theriot 2B
Jay CF
Garcia P
2:07 pm on TBS
Hopefully Raffy continues the "former Dodger" good vibes
and unloads on Hamels
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 4, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I need some fantasy football help
My team sucks. That being said, I’m set at running back with 3 frontline guys (MJD, Forte and Gore) and some depth with guys like Marshawn Lynch and Mark Ingram. My receivers are weak with Mike Thomas, Mario Mannigham, Desean Jackson and Davone Bess and my TE and QB are Dallas Clark and Joe Flacco.
I figure the only move I have is trading Forte. He’s the only one who should bring back a star WR in the process which I figure is the best way to upgrade. I don’t think anyone in my league is dumb enough to give back much value for Gore, Lynch or Ingram after one good week. What would you do and what sort of player would you ask for (assuming its Forte?)
Thanks.
by Michael White on Oct 4, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
is this a PPR league? Because in a PPR league Forte is incredibly good and you should be getting back top 6 or 7 level WR
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 4, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
what about
a PBR league?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 4, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I tossed it up
you slammed it down
good show :)
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 4, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
kudos to you both
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This is tough
Forte is your top dog, so I’m not sure it’ll help you in the long run. Maybe get back a package of a legit #1 WR like Mike Wallace and a committee running back?
Excellent. Mike Wallace was exactly the WR I was going after. The guy who has Wallace also has Calvin Johnson and is thin at RB considering the flop that is Chris Johnson. He’s also got Eli Manning sitting on the bench (behind Stafford.) He’s also 1-2 in the league.
I’m thinking Forte and Ingram for Wallace and Manning. This would also fill my QB hole for the week with Flacco on a bye.
by Michael White on Oct 4, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
WR like Mike Wallace
I hope the other WR on that team is named Morley Safer.
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I didn’t. Didn’t see it either.
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Johnson was finally okay for me this week. My team is getting both its ankles broken with no Newcastle in sight.
Plays the Steelers next week
and it might actually be a good idea to start him. Man what happened to the Steelers?
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
After one bad week? He was fantastic the week before.
by Michael White on Oct 4, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
singing what?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 4, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Should be played when Dodgervision next shows Dave Stewart in the stands.
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by David Young on Oct 4, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
If Dave Stewart takes his client to timbucktoo because he’s tired of being the butt of TBLA jokes, it will be on your head.
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Did anyone watch Raw last night?
Pretty epic ending, compared to what we’ve been seeing pretty recently.
And he wonders why he has girl problems. ;-)
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Awesome 6 man tag match
I love Seamus as a face. Mason Ryan has apparently turned face, which i find AWESOME! CM Punk grows on me more every episode, my favorite wrestler since the Rock. Everyone walked out on HHH at the end of the show.
BELTRE
shakes fist
shakes head
smiles inside
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I took the survey – I can make few grander statements of my loyalty and appreciation for this site than that I actually took a survey
I’d have been more inspired to take the survey if I knew the money wasn’t going to be spent on rehabilitating kitten thugs.
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At least I know MCC won't win the contest
You can’t link gifs & jpgs to the survey.
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Beltre in the hole
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Beltre up
two on
two out
If he makes an out, and the Rangers lose by one run, much will be made about his three solo home runs.
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Rays broadcast just played an interview with Joe Maddon from before the game, and he praised the leadership of “John Damon.”
Awesome.
He forgot to mention how a guy who has played 2400 games is still stupid enough to dive at 1st base instead of running through it.
Even the color analyst on the radio bit his tongue while trying not say how idiotic that was.
BTW anyone know who that color analyst is? I liked him for the two innings I listened. “On Base Machine” referring to Kinsler.
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No, voice I hadn’t heard before. Had to have been a player in 2003.
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Gack, if that is true. Maybe Aaron Boone?
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I meant Aaron Boone. He is working ESPN radio.
I’m listening to the Rays’ broadcast, so I don’t know.
The web says Aaron Boone for Rays/Rangers on ESPN radio.
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He’s totally going to get to 3000 hits, isn’t he?
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3000 hits, top 20 runs scored all time, Johnny Damon Hall of Famer.
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no chance even with 3,000 hits.
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but he’d be the first player without extenuating circumstances (ie roids, gambling, being Harold Baines) to get near or achieve 3000 hits and not get in, right?
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but he is Harold Baines but not as good.
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He’s a hell of a lot better than Harold Baines since he’s a center fielder not a DH.
2866 from Baines is the barrier to get in right now and while 3000 might not happen Damon should get there.
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I bet you could poll all current HOF voters and no one would say Johnny Damon is a HOF, now a few might change their mind by 2014 if and when he breaks 3,000 hits but as I said it is not going to be a large percentage.
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If Johnny Damon gets 2,999 hits there’s absolutely no way he makes it. 3,000 is still seen as a magical number.
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You keep saying that, I think once someone who isn’t magical hits 3,000 it will no longer be magical. See 500 home runs.
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Rafael Palmeiro. It wasn’t magical. It was the needle.
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Unless he dies in a tragic accident on the basepaths on the last day of the season after getting his final hit, there is no way he ends his career with a hit total that is between Baines’s and 3,000. He will come back to somebody for $1 million or less to finish his career and reach the milestone.
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Like Fred McGriff?
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Come on, I put this on a tee. I want to hear about Johnny Damon’s tragic accident on the basepaths!
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In an unequally unwise attempt at career resuscitation, Morganna ran on to the field toward Johnny Damon….
I got nothing.
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1298 games in CF.
1128 games not in CF.
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and pretty much a DH from here on out.
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Damon has quite a obstacles to get to 3000 hits
1. He’s 38 in Nov
2. He’s still 277 hits short
3. He’s a DH now, limiting him to AL only
4. He makes 5Million
I’d say the odds are against him reaching 3,000 hits unless he plays four years and signs for significantly less then what he’s making right now. He had very very few bidders for his services that past season. Getting another full time gig does not seem likely.
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In a reasonable world sure. In a world where everyone with 3000 hits that wasn’t on horse steroids is in the Hall of Fame, maybe.
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the speed is waning and the arm is gone, but Johnny Damon still gets the best jumps on fly balls as anyone to play CF in MLB the last ten years. To think he is poor defensively because his arm was never elite is misguided.
says the man who has watched him probably play about 20 games in CF in his life
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The only time in his career he was a full time CF was his time in Boston except for his 1st year with the Yankee’s and one year with the Royals. This may or may not be true about his jumps, but for most of his career his manager decided that 1/2 the time he liked someone else in CF. If he was as good as you read you’d think his manager would have let him play over 100 games per year in CF from the time he joined the league until the time he was to old to play the position. He hasn’t played over 100 games in CF since 2006, five years ago.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/damonjo01.shtml
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There are UZR numbers from 2002 - present, FWIW
And not that UZR is be-all, end-all, but his UZR ratings in CF from 2002-2006, ages 28-32 seasons:
2.2, -4.3, -9.4, -17.2, -10.6
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I would imagine that a speedy guy that gets great jumps would have much better numbers than that, even with a noodle arm.
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If Casey handles surgery okay, I sure would not mind him back.
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I think he’d be a good bench guy
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 4, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Find me a player
that doesn’t want to play all the time and that player will not be in the majors that long. That stuff never bothers me. Seems false when they appear to step aside for the good of the team.
But there was never really a point where Blake wanting to play was ever an issue, for anyone really.
There was no whining. In fact, Blake was damn near resigned to his fate, even in spring training:
Blake said his talks with Mattingly about being rested started late last season. “I told him I’ve never come to the manager and asked for a day off,” Blake said. “But he’s been around me long enough now where maybe he can see my body language or some of my at-bats” and then decide “maybe I need one [day off].”
What if Blake is hitting well when it’s time to sit? “It’s a formula we’re going to have to come up with,” Blake said, adding with a wry grin that “I told Donnie that as streaky a hitter as I’ve been in my career, when I’m swinging the bat I need to be in there.”
But Blake said he also told Mattingly: “Your job is to throw the best team out there that gives us the best chance to win. If you don’t feel on any given night that I’m not one of the guys, hey, I understand.”
Yeah from Blake this year I more got the sense that any negative stuff was aimed at himself
or at the Gods or at his age… I recall him being more frustrated than anything, with his body breaking down… iirc. I’d like to have him back as a bench guy too but yeah not if he’s gonna come pricey.
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He may decide to hang ‘em up. He’s a family man, isn’t he? Perhaps it is time for him to build a mound in the backyard and put a ball in his son’s left hand.
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I do see an Iowan Field of Dreams redux scenario playing out at some point...
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thanks for putting TBLA on the pedophile list
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by meercatjohn on Oct 4, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
gif of napoli getting steamrolled
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who else would be better?
higher ops then shoppach or anyone on the bench
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A spare Johnson always comes in handy.
by kinbote on Oct 4, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The Rays
do make this shit exciting
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Rays
could have used a Dave Roberts here
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Messes up all of mine
I had the Brewers and the Rays in the WS
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 4, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
That was an exciting series
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Thank you, Rays
And good job, Rangers. Beat the Yankees, if necessary, which I hope it isn’t.
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Shaikin
tweeted that Texas is the first AL West team to repeat in the League Championship Series since 2000-2001 Mariners. Last AL West team to appear in back to back World Series, Oakland 1988-1990.
Waiting for the every year's network uproar
These small market teams don’t have any fans so we won’t make any money?
What do you mean we should show more of their games on national television during the regular season so they get more fans? What about the 18 Red Sox-Yankees games? Now THOSE make money!
not to mention
the 20 some other games that have the Red Sox, OR Yankees
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 4, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I am no fan of Selig and would welcome his retirement, but whenever this comes up, I feel it falls to me to play the devil-you-don’t-know card: at a time when three of the other four major sports have all recently or are currently undergoing labor strife, perhaps we should note that baseball, under Selig, is experiencing the longest era of labor peace in the free agency era.
It is not necessarily a given that that would continue under a new commissioner.
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imo
This first round (while entertaining) is a total joke. Aside from Milwaukee, the other series are so close it seems bizarre two could end today. Expand to seven games please.
I don't know
from the 1969-1984, they had 5 game League Championship series and while there were some complaints, I am not sure the change to 7 games really changed a lot (aside from the Angels in 1986).
Well then, maybe the first round bye will even things out. I just feel there’s no real advantage to winning 100 games vs. sneaking in via wild card.
Seattle did have some awesome teams that never got to the World Series.
You’d think I’d know this but did Junior ever get to a World Series?
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I think the Tigers and Brewers are kind of happy to have home field
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not to argue too much here
but doesn’t that play a bigger role in the next round (if you make it)? in a five gamer, if you can split the first two on the road—like STL & DET—you get games 3 & 4 at home.
The Tigers don’t have home field.
But there was only something like 2 games difference in standings between the Tigers, Yankees and Rangers.
by Michael White on Oct 4, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
99 teams have been down 3-2. 27 of them have come back to win.
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I was shocked that both Phil and Meercat picked the Rangers.
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Still alive
Rangers over the Rays in 4.
This might be the only one I get spot-on though.
Brewers-AZ series doesn’t look like it’s going to maximum.
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I guess its too late to enter
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Can’t believe you didn’t defend your crown. The prize this year is awesome
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Don't know if this has come up yet
flipping through this week’s Sports Business Journal, it seems the Dodgers came in last in avg rating on Prime Ticket. The team averaged a 1.14 (Phillies leads with a 9.12). The total audience also dropped -27,000 to 65,000. Cleveland, Milwaukee, and Tampa Bay have a larger audience.
As best I understand it, that means 1.14 percent of all households in Prime Ticket’s area on average were tuned to the Dodger game, which comes out to 65,000 households. The Angels also have a 1.14 rating.
As far as attendance goes, the Dodgers averaged 64.7% capacity on the year, down -17.6% from last year, the worst attendance drop in baseball. The Rays are the only team close, down -17% from last year.
on the bright side, the Dodgers only have 2 games where they sold under 50% of capacity. The Blue Jays had 57
Why does capacity and ratings matter rather than gross numbers?
In terms of the stadium, the size it what it is, not like they are outlaying additional expenses to bring in 50,000 and falling short of that goal.
by Michael White on Oct 4, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Exactly, someone with a smaller stadium looks great but they could easily be selling fewer tickets.
As far as rating go, it is the final number of home I care about. Josie are you saying more homes watch the Rays then the Dodgers. That only 65,000 homes are watching the Dodgers? That seems inconceivable
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If true how is this a Billion Dollar Franchise?
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Based on a TV deal, yet why would anyone get in a bidding war for our TV rights based on those numbers?
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IF Kemp / Kershaw was not must watch TV I don’t see how adding the Prince will make a difference. I guess we’d need to how this shaped out month to month.
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my guess? Regional Sports Networks are the highest priced cable channels outside of ESPN. So it’s not “the Dodgers are awesome” but "we need to have all the local sports teams, or we’ll lose the subscriber dollars to another channel.
I’m reading an article on the NBA lockout triggering rebates if the lockout goes beyond twenty games. It says an RSN commands $2 to $4 per subscriber from the various cable and satellite providers
Because
you have 162 games of new content with a market that remains highly coveted. Think about it, episodic TV has only 22 shows, cable shows like Mad Men and Breaking Bad have even less, so while sure they don’t produce Idol numbers, they are consistent and there is a lot of product. And it is new product. Also, you get dual revenue streams, money from XM, MLBAM, FOX, TBS, and ESPN.
plus advertisers like live television, cause you’re less likely to DVR through the ads. I assume that’s why late night SNL still has luxury car ads instead of the life alert and animal shelter ads on all the cable late night stuff
Why wouldn’t I DVR SNL? what does anyone care it is done before a live audience?
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So
is someone expecting Alex Baldwin to have a live coronary?
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Yeah but there’s no difference between watching SNL now and watching it in a month.
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Okay I get all that but 65,000 viewers. That is just embarrassing for Los Angeles.
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Is it?
I mean, we love this team, but how popular are the Dodgers? I know that I have to specifically ask for YardHouse bartenders to put the Dodger game on. Not that there’s anything else on TV that people are watching, but the point is, nobody else even gives a shit.
by Michael White on Oct 4, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Given the stereotypes about Dodger fans, you have to wonder how many of them can afford to pay 40 bucks a month just to watch the channel.
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These are the same fans who watch Laker games
at a 4.7 -1 ratio over Dodger games (and pay the cable charges for that).
Yeah, at least in the NBA there’s still a feeling that every game matters.
Unless you’re a die hard fan, there’s no need to go out of your way to tune into a game because there will be another one tomorrow.
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Yeah, at least in the NBA there’s still a feeling that every game matters.
Isn’t the old joke, “wake me up when the real season, the playoffs, start”?
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its not like they let half the league in Dave!
wait… they do?
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if we go by attendance figures, the Angels have finally become more popular than the Dodgers. I guess we could also go by merch sales.
I own plenty of hats for teams I don’t care about. I love my Washington Nationals hat.
by Michael White on Oct 4, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
ha ha, that is so whack
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I’m still looking for a retro Mariners cap (light blue with the Trident) in a flex fit.
by Michael White on Oct 4, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
We should have a photo day where members post a photo of their favorite whack stuff. Like you people’s cap collections.
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The funny part is that I meant to type “kitten” instead of “baby.”
I have a plan worked out to get a photo of me punching my great nephew, who will be wearing a Giants cap, only I can’t bring myself to purchase a Giants cap, even if I would return it after.
I got about 10 broken bats
I don’t know why
I imagine I will do someone marvelously cool with them one day
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 4, 2011 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
He died
in Rocky III didn’t he?
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
The only question has to be why did Carl have a cracked bat? Charity game? Broken windshield? Broken kneecaps?
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I can't remember how I got the bat
The old Pepsi All-Star softball game that used to be in Palm Springs.
One year we stalked the team hotel, ended up riding the elevator with Cal Ripken Jr. and walked by an open hotel room that had Tom Glavine pulling his pants up inside.
Saw Weathers outside the stadium after the game, had him sign the bat.
I can't remember how I got the bat
I tried that excuse once. It didn’t work
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I loved that event, went to it twice. Huge names.
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One year we passed out flyers for the event after school and got to ride the team bus with the players from the team hotel to Angel Stadium (the Palm Springs one, with deeper dimensions than the one in Anaheim).
I can’t remember if I sat next to Bobby Bonilla or Rafael Palmeiro but the other one of the two was in the seat in front of me.
That park was so huge I wondered how anyone in the minor leagues who played there could hit a home run.
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I hit a triple down the right field line there once in senior little league (we played there maybe twice I think).
I was called out at third base, but the umpire clearly missed the call, so I counted it as a triple in my own stats :)
They never drew anyone at that stadium. It shared a (very tiny) parking lot with the Palm Springs Library. Maybe 40 cars total could fit in that lot. People had to park across and down the street in empty lots.
But it was across the street from my high school. I loved it.
In the movie The Eric Stephen Story
walked by an open hotel room that had Tom Glavine pulling his pants up inside
is the foreshadowing for getting press access at Dodger Stadium.
Kelly is played by Abe Vigoda.
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The most extreme situations ever occurred to make that happen. I would bet on the angels attendance not going higher than the Dodgers once in the next 10 years.
Do they encourage gang bangers in Anaheim now?
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We murder them in the lot
and only those what need killin
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I have no idea why I care about this number. I’ve known for 30 years this is not a Dodger town. I blame Magic.
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I think
it is just different, the Dodgers (even with Vin) are something people go to see in the summer, very few fans (in comparison to tickets sold) will watch most of the games on TV.
The Lakers, unless you are willing to spend money, are an experience that you can get watching TV.
well as an example, the Red Sox averaged 37,704 on the year, which is 100.9% capacity. the Dodgers averaged 36,236 this year, but that’s 64.7% capacity.
I don’t really know much about business, but it seems like if you were budgetting expecting 75% capacity, it would be a big deal to come in at 65%. I dunno.
But yes, more homes on average tune in to watch the Rays than the Dodgers this year. But they’re also way down, they lost 40k home from last year’s figure.
The Clippers
had a .99 rating last year, the Lakers were 4.79 (which translated to 271K households).
Almost as many watch the Clips as the Dodgers? Good God
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Blake Griffin is a bigger star than Matt Kemp. Seriously.
by Michael White on Oct 4, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
See
San Antonio is where the Rays need to go. Small city shit, they and Austin would support a franchise.
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I bet Houston would have to agree to that.
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I can see it.
If those numbers are right Prime Ticket reaches about 6 million homes but that stretches way outside of Southern California so let’s say only three million people get it that are in Dodger territory.
Let’s say 25% of those homes watch sports at all. 750K
25% of those like baseball, 375K
75% of those don’t only watch the Angels 281K
So if those numbers I pulled out of my ass are anywhere near accurate, it means 25% of Dodger fans are watching any given game, which seems about right.
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Dropped 50% from 2009 - Angels about the same
FS Prime Ticket Dodgers 2.15 (12.0%) 122,000 (13.0%)
FS West Angels 1.22 (-10.3%) 69,000 (-10.4%)
However the Dodgers ranked 27th in 2009 so really it is not like they were killing it before.
Didn’t we knock the shit out of him. I remember when we left Saint Louis that we had killed any hopes they had for the postseason.
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Then we sent them Furcal to finish them off. And he did misplay a couple balls. And yet….
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So far I picked the Rangers over Rays in 4 games, and i picked the Brewers to sweep the Dbacks, so very close on that one. The fact I picked the Cards to beat the Phillies will be my downfall.
being Bobby will be your downfall
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Sorry
couldn’t resist, the dark side is so strong
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HEY WAINWRIGHT LOOK AT WHAT COLOR THOSE CARDINAL RALLY TOWELS ARE
by mightylakers on Oct 4, 2011 2:59 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
when are the old guys going to beat the shit out of the younguns in softball again?
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 4, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
If Nolander doesn't play LF again hopefully never ;)
That said, I should be nowhere near left center, right center, or actual center, lol.
Bowling? When did this happen?
Why didn’t someone spam the board with links to this so I could’ve known it happened?!
by EMDarrow on Oct 4, 2011 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
NBA talks went nowhere
No further meetings planned. When asked when the next meetings would be Hunter said “a month, maybe two.”
I hate everybody.
I’ve got nothing to watch during the week until baseball starts again. That blows.
by Michael White on Oct 4, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
that does blow, but I do enjoy college hoops and college football
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 4, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
In the end they will end up using what they said know to today, but they will be poorer for it and so will so many others.
So what is standing in the way of the players creating a league?
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I can’t remember where I read it (perhaps ClipsNation), but couldn’t Nike put together a league of sorts rather easily?
by Michael White on Oct 4, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Money from owners for stadiums, TV contracts, insurance, sales, staff, salaries, and everything else you need to run a business
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 4, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
This is basketball, they can play outdoors. Shit, they’re doing it for free right now anyway. You can run a low-budget league and people would watch it and players would play for a split of profits.
by Michael White on Oct 4, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
a low-budget league to me means playing a few dozen coordinated games at best
players creating a league means the end of the NBA as we know it and the start of something new
players creating a league really means “we got next”
I don’t see how that happens
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 4, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
ABA
girls and guys
must have 3 /2 split at all times.
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As long as it’s shirts and skins.
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I agree, it wouldn’t be anything more than a big double elimination style tournament.
It would not mean the end of the NBA.
by Michael White on Oct 4, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
It would make for interesting watching, the end of the NBA
Would be the only way David Stern could get out of paying those Silnas brothers
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 4, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
They should
make the all star game count
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Who pays for it?
Someone mentioned a “team Adidas versus team Rebbok” tour and sending that around the country. Wouldn’t help the bench warmers, but it would provide some leverage against the owners.
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College hoops doesn’t do it for me. Long shot clock drives me crazy as offenses can reset 3 times, makes the game really slow.
by Michael White on Oct 4, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
If I have learned anything from Mike
it is that he loves his NBA, probably more than anyone who regularly writes and comments here.
it is that he loves his NBA, probably more than anyone who regularly writes and comments here.
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by meercatjohn on Oct 4, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ya, I’m really into it. And it fits so perfectly with baseball. One ends, the other one is just about to get started.
by Michael White on Oct 4, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
November is freed up
AndrewSiciliano
David Stern: Exhibition season cancelled. NBA will cancel first two weeks of regular season on Monday.
NOW IS THE CHANCE FOR MLS TO POUNCE
MOVE THE SEASON TO NOVEMBER. DO IT.
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No way. Soccer games are on the weekend so they don’t even compete with NBA/MLB anyway. But putting them right int eh middle of college or pro football?
by Michael White on Oct 4, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
They should change the name to football
then they could pick up Hank Williams Jr. cheap
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by mleadman on Oct 4, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
My only NBA comment
is they finally got me back in with that great postseason. Nowitzki/LeBron was compelling stuff.
It was a great post-season. Watched every minute of Memphis vs. Oklahoma City.
by Michael White on Oct 4, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
ROKU ROKU ROKU
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Of what?
Season tickets? Going to a bar every weekend? Moving to New York so I can watch Giants games on local TV?
by Michael White on Oct 4, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
The thing the woman was talking about in the comment
Joey Joe replied to
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Ah. I took Joey’s question as a stand-alone poll. Not comparing Dish to Netflix.
by Michael White on Oct 4, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
directv is the greatest technology or information service I have ever subscribed to
the good will that they have built with me is enormous
I love Sunday Ticket
I don’t rent movies
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 4, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
direct TV and I are married
as long as TyC (Ch. 427 if you are interested) holds the rights to argentine soccer.
I think DirecTV did a great job
In making themselves a must have for sports fans.
by Michael White on Oct 4, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah
what kind of package do i have to have to get these other sports channels in the 600’s available to me. Channels like CSN
Sports package. Another $10 per month. You pretty much get every college football and basketball game with that package.
by Michael White on Oct 4, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
In this day and age, each channel should be priced separately and you should be able to buy exactly the channels you want. Balancing your channel selections to a total price per month you are willing to pay could be as exciting as drafting your rotisserie league team.
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I want it to
but it will kill about 80% of the current channels
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So to answer Joey Joe’s question,
doesnt anyone have a satellite dish anymore?
.
by Joey Joe on Oct 4, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
The answer appears to be a resounding yes, since some of our best members swear by it.
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Isn’t pro or college football on like five days a week now?
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is there such a thing anymore?
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Last time I was in Utah was around 2000. Buying liquor there is a pain in the ass. The grocery stores could only sell 3.2, which sucked.
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Which is a pain in the ass, going to multiple stores to buy your edible items.
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Was in Utah a year ago with my girlfriend, went looking for wine, turns out you can only buy beer on Sundays for lord knows whatever reason so we had our romantic Heinken keg cans.
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I have a right to simultaneously enjoy the beauty of Zion National Park and a well-poured Arrogant Bastard Ale.
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by David Young on Oct 4, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I would call that right
inaleiable
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by mleadman on Oct 4, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
are you kidding, those teams always hate each other and have good offenses
I can watch it all
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 4, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
When do you even have time to watch any TV?
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i’m already sleeping
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That’s too much George Harrison for me.
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What are they going to talk about after about 1976 or so?
His ukelele parties?
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in hotel rooms and bars across this great land
from 7:30PM to 10:10PM when I am at home
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 4, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Nothing like
mormon on mormon action
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More like mormon on mormon on mormom on mormom on … mormon action, amirite?
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Yup
Played and collected on MIL/ARI game 1 and Rangers/Rays game 2.
by Michael White on Oct 4, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I take joy in total economic ruin
I really am all about a pox on both your houses when it comes to anything NBA arguments
but I will miss having it on TV while I travel
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 4, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
The best thing about the strike was not having to pay for preseason games, but now this blows. Did you see my post where Staples only gets paid on ticket revenue, they are going to take it to the knees, and man, those arena workers, are going to be hurting.
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Out of nowhere, a Clippers season ticket rep called me on Saturday looking for a deposit.
Uh, no. When the lockout is settled, if I want tickets, I’m guessing I’ll be able to buy as many as I want.
by Michael White on Oct 4, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Staples wishes the lockout didn’t happen until March
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A 50 game schedule beginning in January (like the last lock out) would make for interesting scheduling for Lakers and Clippers.
by Michael White on Oct 4, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Right, they would have to play some games at the Sports Arena since we are not allowed near Staples in March.
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Couldn’t they just play all 81 games and play deeper into summer? What is to stop the NBA from playing in July?
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Arena workers
parking lots, local restaurants, bars. Ticket brokers too. And what about the local RSNs, are we going to see a bunch of classic NBA shows in their place.
Small consolation (going from 3 teams to 1) but at least there is the Kings.
by Michael White on Oct 4, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Who?
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about gold
and how cool slow motion bullets are as long as you are a spectator.
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I haven't played Scene It in a while
but one time I was playing with my cousin Alex and we tied on a question. The tiebreaking question was “name a movie with ‘man’ in the title,” and we both said “Juwanna Mann” at the exact same time.
It was at the same time both the best and worst moments of my life.
I have Scene It
but I don’t think we’ve ever played it.
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nope, i've got a big list of movies I don't love
I hate all of you people though, if that makes you feel any differently.
LOL
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 4, 2011 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions
SBN says that if the lockout extends beyond 20 games, they’ll have to pay refunds to the cable operators
that’s kind of awesome
no one likes to go out of pocket, I don’t care who deep those pockets go
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 4, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
zero / zero fifth inning
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gack - I sure hope to see a Ranger / Tiger ALCS
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In 29 postseason games [goddam i changed that word cuz of Josie], Mark Teixeira is batting .202/306/.316.
Jeter, Rodriguez and Teixeira all got booed last night. No one is happy. Soriano said he’d throw Delmon Young that same pitch again because ’that’s how he pitches’.
yes
but remember how bombareded we all where whith stories of A Rod the choker? Not so much for Tex.
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all got booed last night.
Wasn’t last night’s game in Detroit?
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Still zero / Zero, Garcia dealing a gem
bottom of 6th
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:)
500 points right there if it happens. I’m also rooting for either Collmenter to get destroyed early, or to be lights out and go the distance. Preferably the first one so I get my sweep prediction right too.
Hamels has to be done after 117 pitches through 6, but Garcia at 74 might make it, depending on the score of course
hamels would have to throw like 120 pitches to do it, and if neither team scores for a few innings they may go 9 without a complete game
they may go 9 without a complete game
That would be awesome if that was why no one collected on that wager.
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Be thankful you don't work at this place
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2011310020058
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
That’s just… horrible. Wow.
Nothing is ever easy.
by drulenarendes on Oct 4, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Its so bad
it makes me question whether it’s true
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
They got a judge to side with them and something like this would be really easy to disprove.
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those are really strict rules
for working at a convenience store.
Guess the owner never watched Clerks.
Or maybe he did.
This
and the guy tried to deny unemployment benefits to someone who quit because of the hostile work environment. That could constitute retaliation
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Seems like a pretty legit article.
Nothing is ever easy.
by drulenarendes on Oct 4, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
In a related note
My next article will announce the “Guess the next TBLA commenter to be banned” contest.
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How about a guess on when Mike publishes the Fav Five for 2011?
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With comments like that, meercatjohn will be the next commenter banned!
by Michael White on Oct 4, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Secret shoppers will be looking for cashiers wearing a hat, talking on a cell phone, not wearing a QC Mart shirt, having someone hanging around/behind the counter, and/or a personal car parked by the pumps after 7 p.m., among other things.
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He didn't mention
having the right amount of flair
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
They sold pens?
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Hey, clearly they are holding two bats, one might wonder when Maddz is going to hike.
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IMO
There is no bad count on which to throw a curveball.
But maybe that’s because i had a shit fastball.
@TElciram
by Taylor Maricle on Oct 4, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
only bad count to throw a curveball is whatever count it is after you’ve already thrown two in a row.
Generally, yes
But it does depend a bit on the batter, when scrimmaging my teammates a curveball was never a bad pitch. I never gave up a hit on my curve to them (or any of the teams i played, for that matter), fun fact. My fastball/changeups were where i was weak.
@TElciram
by Taylor Maricle on Oct 4, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
But against a good batter
You’re definitely right
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by Taylor Maricle on Oct 4, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
oh my god
is that another curve ball
which is really about, wow is my bad speed honed in on that shit – hell you throw me 3 in a row and I don’t even need a hanger to hit that sucker hard
changing speeds is tougher for me than handling break
change speeds and hit spots – heck you can pitch
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 4, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I think I missed one spot through 6 innings, was throwing harder than normal, everythiing had movement and depth, it was incredible. Just one of those days.
Depends on if you have one curve or 2/3 different types
I threw a 12-6, a 1-7, and a slow knuckle curve, so i could get away with consecutive curves a bit more.
@TElciram
by Taylor Maricle on Oct 4, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
uhhh
On a good day, with my timing in sync, like, i feel like i touch 70.
Most days, 60-65ish. Also depends on if i’m throwing sinkers or 4-seamers, obviously.
I’m more going for 1B/OF and taking out a flyer as a pitcher. I get shittons of ground balls but also shittons of walks so i’ll just see what happens at tryouts. They apparently didn’t have any lefties last year, too, so i may get some points for being left-handed.
Also, i now have access to a free gym and am working out my back, shoulders, thighs, and abs, so i’m hoping to gain a tick or two beforehand.
@TElciram
by Taylor Maricle on Oct 4, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
at 60-65, they’re all sinkers. Ditch the 12-6, and just throw all the sliders and slurves you can. Off the plate to the outside corner and down the middle breaking down under the RH hands, then just anywhere you like to a lefty. Have fun with it. Play Mo Rivera and be the one pitch wonder.
I've been playing with a cutter a bit, too.
Thinking i’ll try that out. I can kind of control a cement mixer slider (which, curiously enough, was what was most effective on the people that i pitched to at the softball game, so maybe it does move after all), but the curve is just my best pitch right now, even if my repertoire doesn’t set it up i’m going to need to turn to it every once in a while.
@TElciram
by Taylor Maricle on Oct 4, 2011 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions
i'll definitely take your advice, though
and throw a hard 1-7 instead of the 12-6
@TElciram
by Taylor Maricle on Oct 4, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
more experienced hitters will dare you
they will move up in the box and dare you
moving up will take inches off your breaking stuff, stuff that otherwise hits the zone and runs into the dirt, will still be in the zone when the hitters move up 10 inches, they will know you don’t have/trust your fastball
You won’t be able to keep them honest
slow and slower is a hard way to live
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 4, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I do often check to see where they're batting.
I used to always bat in the front end of the box so I could take break off of pitches and make it easier to hit low pitches (i can only hit belt-high to letter-high pitches)
@TElciram
by Taylor Maricle on Oct 4, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
really is a nice mix of blue and white in that shot
except for the dude in that puke red hat, kinda spoils it really
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 4, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
If he'd play for near-minimum and incentives
Then sure.
@TElciram
by Taylor Maricle on Oct 4, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I cant see him getting a multi year deal from any team…so he’s probably going to sign somewhere for 5mils i bet
Alright
So far i’ve had barely any homework so time has been spent hanging around with my girlfriend and my floormates. Baseball club hopefuls are meeting this saturday, so that’ll be interesting. There are 19 applicants for what must be something like 4-7 spots, so i’m almost definitely getting cut, but at least i get to play in the scrimmages at tryouts, so that’ll be fun. Or embarrassing.
@TElciram
by Taylor Maricle on Oct 4, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t bring Rafy back under any circumstances. What would be the point? I’d rather just let Sellers handle it and see what’s there.
I disagree with myself.
Not letting Sellers start for sure, but let it be a competition and see if Uribe comes back in shape
If Albert wanted to play SS would you let him?
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Would a prime time infield of
Prince
Kent
Albert
Thome
be the coolest thing to watch ever?
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Opposing team has .750 OBP by bunting every time?
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Because we can’t afford guys that are both healthy and productive.
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Uh, because he’s Sellers and terrible, and Rafy would probably not be.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
My dream of Jose Valverde untucking his jersey and making LaRussa’s head explode is circling down the drain.
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Meanwhile, Keith is digging this planet.
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I doa'n wanna die
in a nuclear war
I wanna sail away to a distant shore
And make like an ape man
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Oct 4, 2011 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
God I love that song
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Never ever did I think I’d see the lyrics for Ape Man on TBLA
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Heard Got to be Free
on the new Toyota Prius commercials? I thought that was great.
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Oct 4, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
shocked me awake
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I bought the 45 of Lola in the mid-70s as a reissue and it was backed with Ape Man. Nice set.
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Lola and the Powerman, one of my favorite albums.
"I remember going into a music store on Shaftesbury Avenue in London when we were about to make ‘Lola’. I said, ‘I want to get a really good guitar sound on this record. I want a Martin.’ And in the corner they had this old 1938 dobro [resonator guitar, in this case a National Steel] that I bought for $150. I put them together on ‘Lola’ which is what makes that clangy sound: the combination of the Martin and the dobro with heavy compression
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Fake it by strumming the intro chords close to the bridge.
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Damn
the Riot and his three hits were left standing on deck
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We shoulda
never traded him. I told everyone
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
but we wouldn't have had fun with this
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Did I just write something about “nice set”?
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I watched a few episodes of Firefly over the weekend
and was thinking that if someone asked me to choose between Inara and Deanna Troi, I would choose between Inara and Deanna Troi.
I would so be a part of that sandwich.
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Oct 4, 2011 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Don’t blame me, I wanted him back. Don’t think anything would have actually changed.
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I hate La Russa
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
God, someone used Nick Punto as a pinch hitter?
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Holiday, must have been plenty hurt to not be able to play in this game.
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Inflamed tendon on his right middle finger, which would be a big thing except it hurts when Holliday reaches down to rub his nuts, still sore from 2009.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 4, 2011 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
it was a homer
/Ihavenoideaifitwasahomer
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Should have tried. Either it’s a big run, or an all-time TOOTBLAN. Win-win.
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Craig can hit ball long way
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If you deal players and have them be eligible for post season now..imagine what Kenley Jansen would be worth
Shocked Utley didn’t throw it into the dugout.
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Do the Cardinals have way more guys with two first names than the league average?
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It is arguable that
prior to 1969, you at least had one team that won the most games that year in the World Series so you had a shot at that.
they had a poll during the regular season
on a dodgers broadcast asking the fans if they prefer a 5 game nlds and the result was overwhelming for the 5 game series.. =(
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 4, 2011 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
My CEO is from Philly, he just came in after that DP, cause his daughter is texting him the results. I had to play dumb and not tell him about MLB TV or GameChannel. I think he enjoyed it more telling me what was happening:)
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I would love to see the percentage of bosses who fall for the “boss button” during the NCAA hoops tournament, that changes the screen from basketball to a fake spreadsheet.
i cannot be fooled (by that) because I use it when my employees come in and I want to seem like I am working
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 4, 2011 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Yahoo's GameChannel all jacked up
- S. Schumaker in center field
- J. Motte relieved F. Salas
- J. Mayberry popped out to shallow center
- P. Polanco singled to shallow right
- C. Ruiz singled to center, P. Polanco to second
- R. Madson struck out swinging
- End of Inning (0 Runs, 2 Hits, 0 Errors)
Thinks that inning is over, but shows Rollins is up. Twist that knife.
So what is actually happening?
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The last 5-out save in the postseason was by Dye Beard in the Game 6 clincher of the NLCS last year.
Not much offense left after Berkman with Holiday and Jay out.
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Frank Isbell had 4 doubles in 1906 WS
Pujols is 13th with 3 doubles in a postseason game:
Rk Player Date Series Gm# Tm Opp Rslt PA AB R H 2B RBI
1 Frank Isbell 1906-10-13 WS 5 CHW CHC W 8-6 5 5 3 4 4 2
2 Freddy Sanchez 2010-10-27 WS 1 SFG TEX W 11-7 5 5 2 4 3 3
3 Jacoby Ellsbury 2007-10-27 WS 3 BOS COL W 10-5 5 5 2 4 3 2
4 David Eckstein 2006-10-26 WS 4 STL DET W 5-4 5 5 1 4 3 2
5 Craig Biggio 2005-10-08 NLDS 3 HOU ATL W 7-3 5 5 2 3 3 0
6 Trot Nixon 2004-10-27 WS 4 BOS STL W 3-0 4 4 0 3 3 2
7 Jim Edmonds 2000-10-05 NLDS 2 STL ATL W 10-4 5 4 2 3 3 2
8 Bret Boone 1999-10-26 WS 3 ATL NYY L 5-6 5 5 1 4 3 1
9 Fred McGriff 1995-10-11 NLCS 2 ATL CIN W 6-2 5 4 2 3 3 0
10 Jim Gilliam 1953-10-03 WS 4 BRO NYY W 7-3 5 5 1 3 3 2
11 Al Dark 1951-10-08 WS 4 NYG NYY L 2-6 4 4 1 3 3 0
12 Hank Greenberg 1945-10-07 WS 5 DET CHC W 8-4 5 5 3 3 3 1
13 Max Carey 1925-10-15 WS 7 PIT WSH W 9-7 5 5 3 4 3 2
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Only one
National League player has had 5 hits in a post season game, Marquis Grissom in the first year of the NLDS (1995) for Atlanta.
Expect not to many pinch hit three run home runs
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Looks like Francisco was number 10 in the postseason
Rk Player Date Series Gm# Tm Opp Rslt PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI
1 J.T. Snow 2000-10-05 NLDS 2 SFG NYM L 4-5 1 1 1 1 0 0 1 3
2 Ricky Ledee 1999-10-17 ALCS 4 NYY BOS W 9-2 1 1 1 1 0 0 1 4
3 Brian Daubach 1999-10-09 ALDS 3 BOS CLE W 9-3 2 2 1 1 0 0 1 3
4 Mark Lewis 1995-10-06 NLDS 3 CIN LAD W 10-1 2 1 2 1 0 0 1 4
5 Bill Bathe 1989-10-27 WS 3 SFG OAK L 7-13 1 1 1 1 0 0 1 3
6 John Lowenstein 1979-10-03 ALCS 1 BAL CAL W 6-3 1 1 1 1 0 0 1 3
7 Bernie Carbo 1975-10-21 WS 6 BOS CIN W 7-6 2 2 1 1 0 0 1 3
8 Hank Majeski 1954-10-02 WS 4 CLE NYG L 4-7 1 1 1 1 0 0 1 3
9 Dusty Rhodes 1954-09-29 WS 1 NYG CLE W 5-2 1 1 1 1 0 0 1 3
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I remember Snow, Ledee, Dauback, Lewis, Lowenstein and Carbo with Carbo being the most famous. Who the hell was Bill Bathe?
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The SF Giants did it twice, but lost both games anyway! Suck it Giants!
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az/brewers
I took the under at 9.. hopefully road brewers show up and marcum mystifies az..
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 4, 2011 5:32 PM PDT reply actions
Could be a pair of old friends pitching Wednesday
So tomorrow we have Edwin Jackson vs. Roy Oswalt, and Randy Wolf. vs. Joe Saunders if Arizona wins tonight.
Was gonna call Girardi nuts for intentionally walking someone in the first. Didn’t realize the lineup had Don Kelly batting 6th.
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Tigers' radio call of that catch
“Granderson leaps up, MAKES THE CATCH!!!! Oh man he didn’t read it right!”
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