2011 Dominican Dodgers Minor League Season in Review
Starting with the Dominican Dodgers, I will be recapping the season for each of the Dodgers minor league affiliates. The DSL team is always difficult to follow because there are so many players on the roster, and there isn't much to go off of besides stats, a player's age, and their physical specs. In addition, I would guess that at least 98% of the players never make it up the big leagues, and probably only about 15% even make it to a US based league. That being said, I still enjoy following the players on the Dominican Dodgers because you never know when you are looking at the next Rubby De La Rosa. A few players stood out on this year's team, and we'll talk about them at length below.
Record: 40 - 29
Season Result: Tied for 2nd place in their division, 5.5 games out of 1st place
Season Recap: The Dodgers started off their season slow, losing 9 of their first 11 games, but then really turned things around over the final 2 months of the season. The team put together a 6 game winning streak in July, and then only lost 5 games in the entire month of August. Their late run was not strong enough to propel the Dodgers to the playoffs as they finished tied for 2nd place. Weather also played a major role in the Dodgers season as 13 games were postponed or canceled due to rain.
Statistically, the Dodgers were like most teams in the DSL in that they had great pitching numbers, yet had trouble at the dish. That being said, the Dodgers were pretty well rounded compared to the other teams in the league as their team batting average of .248 ranked 7th in the league (out of 33 teams) and their team ERA of 3.09 ranked 6th. The team WHIP of 1.24 was even better as it ranked 5th, but their strikeout numbers weren't as impressive as their 483 K's was good for just 17th in the league. Getting back to the offense, the Dodgers has just 15 homers (ranked 18th), and their OPS wasn't as impressive as their team average since their 662 OPS also ranks 18th in the DSL.
League Leaders:
| Dominican Summer League Hitters | |||
| Category | Player | Rank | Amount |
| None | |||
| Dominican Summer League Pitchers | |||
| Category | Player | Rank | Amount |
| ERA | Jackson Mateo | 9th | 1.62 |
| Games Started | Jackson Mateo | tied 1st | 15 |
| Hit Batters | Jackson Mateo | tied 5th | 11 |
| WHIP | Jackson Mateo | tied 10th | 0.93 |
| WHIP | Victor Araujo | tied 10th | 0.93 |
Offensive MVP: Greg Pena led the Dominican Dodgers in almost every significant offensive category, and therefore was the obvious choice for offensive MVP award. His 31 RBI’s were tops on the team, and he ranked 1st in average (.303), OB% (.389), SLG (.441), and OPS (.830) among players with at least 75 at bats. He also showed off his speed with 23 stolen bases and 5 triples while demonstrating a good eye at the plate. The 19 year old switch hitter proved to be a valuable defensive player as well as he played all 3 outfield positions and made just 2 errors all year while recording a team-high 4 outfield assists.
Best Offensive Prospect: Stat wise Arce Rodriguez’s season was just a tick below Greg Pena, but on paper A-Rod appears to be the better prospect mostly because of his age as he is a full year younger than the offensive MVP. 2011 was Arce's second season in the DSL, and he showed significant improved over last year while playing the entire season as an 18 year old. He led the team in home runs with 4, and his .288 average was second behind only Pena. He appears to be limited defensively as he was used mostly in left field and 1st base, but hopefully he'll hit enough as he moves up the ladder to justify his positions. Given his success in 2011 and the fact that he's already spent 2 seasons in the DSL, Rodriguez will probably be promoted to the Arizona Rookie League next year as 19 year old.
Pitching MVP: Jackson Mateo earned the Pitching MVP award by started a team high 15 games and posting fabulous stats. His 1.62 ERA ranked 2nd out of all Dodger minor leaguers in 2011, and his 0.93 WHIP was the best in the entire system. He also was among the DSL League Leaders in those two categories. The only thing Jackson didn't do well in 2011 was strike out batters (6.49 K/9), but that didn't seem to matter as he found other means to get the outs he needed throughout the season. 2011 was actually Mateo's second great season in the DSL (he had a 1.23 ERA in 22 innings in 2010), so I'm pretty sure the 19 year old will be playing in the Arizona Rookie League in 2012.
Best Pitching Prospect: It's quite difficult to determine the best pitching prospect on this team without scouting reports, but I need to pick someone so I'm going with 17 year old Miguel Sulbaran. Miguel isn't going to intimidate you with his size (5'10", 165 lbs), but this lefty put up outstanding stats despite being one of the youngest players in the league. He finished the season with a 2.81 ERA in 57.2 innings, and his WHIP was just 0.95. He also had a solid strike out rate of 8.18 K/9, and opposing batters hit just .179 against him. The highlight of his season was on August 3rd when he threw 6 no-hit innings and had 8 punchouts.
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Other Notable Players and Prospects: Before I get into the position by position break down, I wanted to highlight a few more players on the team who either had a great season and/or could have the potential to one day turn into a legitimate Dodger prospect. This way, the more notable players don't get lost in all the detail below.
Jonathan Martinez - RHP - At 17 years and 3 months old Martinez is currently the youngest player in the Dodgers minor league system, yet he put up great numbers for the Dominican Dodgers and was almost my pick for the team's best pitching prospect. In 32.1 frames J-Mart had a 1.67 ERA, a 0.96 WHIP, a 2.98 FIP, and struck out almost a batter per inning. He's 6'1" and 170 lbs and will be one of the key players to watch in the DSL next season.
Victor Araujo - RHP - Araujo might not be much of his prospect because of his age (almost 22), but he put together an outstanding season for the Dodgers with 60 IP and a 1.80 ERA. He also had a 0.93 WHIP, led the team with a 2.87 FIP, and was one of the few players on the roster to strike out more than a batter per inning (9.15 K/9).
Jose Agusto Diaz - RHP - I didn't even notice Diaz's solid season until it was over, but it's worth noting here as he had a ERA of just 0.67 over 27 innings. He's another guy who is a little old for the league at 20 and a half, but even still he had a great year.
Josmar Cordero - C/1B - Cordero didn't have eye popping stats, but had a decent season considering the league he was playing in. He played the entire season as a 19 year old, and his .779 OPS ranked 3rd on the team for qualifying players. He also had 2 homers and struck out in just 12.8% of his plate appearances.
Faustino Oguisten - 2B/SS - The 20 year old Oguisten only played half the year with the Dominican Dodgers because he was promoted mid-season to the Arizona Rookie League. While in the DSL, Faustino had a .333 average in 25 games, 9 SB's, and a solid .822 OPS. He also walked as much as he struck out.
Position by Position Breakdown (player's age in parenthesis):
Catcher: After being the team's main 1st baseman in 2010, Webster Rivas (21) spent most of his time behind the plate in 2011 and had a decent season with a .751 OPS and a pair of homers. He also walked almost as much as he struck out, and threw out 49% of would be base-stealers. Josemar Corder (20) spent a good amount of time as the backstop and was discussed above, while Jonathan Linares (18) is being mentioned despite playing just 7 games because of his age and the fact that he had a .300 average and 4 extra base hits in his limited playing time.
1st Base: Five different guys played at least 10 games at 1st base, but 3 of them have already been mentioned above (Josmar Cordero (20), Arce Rodriguez (18), and Webster Rivas (21)). The other two are Henry Heredia (20) and Jeffry Rojas (19), but both had terrible seasons at the plate in their professional debuts and are not worth discussing.
2nd Base: The switch hitting Vladimir Martinez (19) was the primary 2nd baseman for the Dodgers, and despite hitting just .222 he had a somewhat memorable season because he walked and struck out in 11.7% of his plate appearances. Melvin Santana (20) was the team's other 2nd baseman and struggled defensively with a .906 fielding %, but led the team with 11 doubles despite a .245 batting average. He also ranked 2nd on the team with 10 stolen bases.
Shortstop: Leo Rodriguez (19) manned shortstop for most the season and had very similar stats as 2010 despite being a year older and wiser. The only good news is that he is another player who walked almost as much as he struck out. The aforementioned Faustino Oguisten (20) also played some shortstop before his promotion.
3rd Base: 2011 was Jorky Infante's (20) 3rd season in the DSL, but he still struggled at the plate as the team's main 3rd baseman. Jorky hit just .210 with a .567 OPS which just isn't going to get it done. Jeffry Rojas (19), who also played some 1st base, was the secondary 3rd baseman and as mentioned above had a mediocre season at the plate with a .235 average and a .574 OPS.
Outfield: The outfield was the Dodgers' strong point from an offensive perspective as both the offensive MVP and the best offensive prospect were outfielders. Greg Pena (19) played mostly right field, but also spent a significant amount of time in both center and left to prove his versatility. As mentioned above he led the team in almost all offensive categories, while making just 2 errors and recording 4 outfield assists. Arce Rodriguez (18) was the main left fielder for the Dodgers, and Abinaer Soriano (20) played almost exclusively in center. Soriano did a decent job on defense, but he hit just .216 and had a .600 OPS while striking out in 28.2% of his plate appearances.
Starting Pitching: Starters Victor Araujo (21), Jackson Mateo (19), and Miguel Sulbaran (17) were the main contributors to the Dodgers rotation, and each of these players were mentioned above. Giordanny Chavez (20) was another Dodger starter, but he regressed significantly in his 3rd DSL season. After posting a 1.85 ERA in 2010, Chavez doubled his earned run average in 2011 and also had a very poor strike out rate as his K/9 was just 5.53. Abdiel Velasquez (18) also increased his ERA significantly from 2010, but he is still so young that I think he should still be considered a decent Dodger prospect. The 6'3" Velasquez had a 4.05 ERA in 2011, but he has a solid pitching frame and will hopefully improve in 2012. Samuel Taveras (22) rounds out the Dodgers rotation, and while he had unbelievable stats in 2011 and has a great pitching frame at 6'5", he was mostly ignored because of his age. His 2.02 ERA and 0.88 WHIP were great, but his K rate was terrible (5.33 K/9) and again he is much to old to ever have an impact in the Dodgers minor league system.
Relief Pitching: 10 different different pitchers had saves for the Dodgers in 2010, so as you can imagine the Dodger relief core was pretty wide spread. Jonathan Martinez (17) was the best bullpen arm for the Dodgers and he had a 1.16 ERA as a reliever with a .160 batting average against. Aris Angeles (22) is quite a bit older but was also very good with a 2.73 ERA in 29.2 innings, while 17 year old Edinson Bock posted a 3.68 ERA and a 11.0 K/9 despite throwing just 7.1 frames. Converted outfielder Ricardo De La Rosa (20) is not related to Rubby, but he did have a solid year in his first season as a pitcher. The 6'3" Moises Tamarez (19) appeared in just 8 games in 2011 and threw just 18 frames, but I have a feeling he'll be in Arizona in 2012 as he's spent 3 seasons in the DSL and has a 2.00 ERA in 2011.
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thanks for doing these Brandon
I imagine the DSL Dodgers must be the hardest to get info on.
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UNTIL NOW!!!!
:)
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 5, 2011 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah there are basically no scouting reports
espeically since the Dodgers don’t sign any high profile international players
by Brandon Lennox on Oct 5, 2011 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions
For point of reference
2011 DSL:
Average age of batters: 18.5
Average OPS: .661
Average age of pitchers: 19.0
Average ERA: 3.59
thanks for this as i'd never calculated the averages
but overall i wouldn’t say a 19 year old pitcher in the DSL is old…especially since most of the players who are 19 now were really 18 for at least part of last season. you don’t really want many 18 year olds in your US based rookie leagues unless they are big time prospects, so most of these players in the DSL don’t really even have the option of getting promoted until they are 19/20 years old
by Brandon Lennox on Oct 5, 2011 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions
ours was reglazed for a few hundred bucks and it took a couple weeks of them coming back and patching up the spots to get it right. I want to say $600?
damn Canadian firewalls
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 5, 2011 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions
since Tommy took my comment, I had to edit to this
….because they never suspected anyone would actually play fantasy hockey?
by Hollywood Joe on Oct 5, 2011 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Fantasy Hockey costs companys tens of dollars a year in lost productivity.
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by regfairfield on Oct 5, 2011 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Jackson Mateo
is a great baseball name. Thanks for doing this, Brandon. Where do you think he’ll be ranked next time you rank our prospects?
I had him 75 last year
with 2 good DSL seasons under his belt i’ll move him up a bit, but not a ton. he’ll probably be in the 60 – 70 range
by Brandon Lennox on Oct 5, 2011 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Baseball America's top-20 Southern League prospects
1. Matt Moore, lhp, Montgomery Biscuits (Rays)Link
2. Tyler Skaggs, lhp, Mobile Baybears (Diamondbacks
3. Paul Goldschmidt, 1b, Mobile Baybears (Diamondbacks)
4. Brett Jackson, of, Tennessee Smokies (Cubs)
5. Jarrod Parker, rhp, Mobile Baybears (Diamondbacks)
6. Arodys Vizcaino, rhp, Mississippi Braves
7. Randall Delgado, rhp, Mississippi Braves
8. Wily Peralta, rhp, Huntsville Stars (Brewers)
9. Yasmani Grandal, c, Carolina Mudcats (Reds)
10. Allen Webster, rhp, Chattanooga Lookouts (Dodgers)
11. Chris Archer, rhp, Montgomery Biscuits (Rays)
12. Alfredo Silverio, of, Chattanooga Lookouts (Dodgers)
13. Nathan Eovaldi, rhp, Chattanooga Lookouts (Dodgers)
14. A.J. Pollock, of, Mobile Baybears (Diamondbacks)
15. Vinnie Catricala, of/3b, Jackson Generals (Mariners)
16. Patrick Corbin, lhp, Mobile Baybears (Diamondbacks)
17. Tyler Pastornicky, ss, Mississippi Braves
18. Chris Withrow, rhp, Chattanooga Lookouts (Dodgers)
19. Brett Oberholtzer, lhp, Mississippi Braves
20. Shawn Tolleson, rhp, Chattanooga Lookouts (Dodgers)
5 of the top 20 ain’t bad, only oe in the top 10 though.
I still think Chris Withrow will be the most successful out of all the Dodgers on that list.
I've always kind of liked Withrow too
But why do you think that?
by Michael White on Oct 5, 2011 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions
I thought you changed your mind on him after seeing him actually pitch?
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i don’t remember, but I remember seeing him pitch on milb.tv and thinking his stuff looked great and his mechanics looked clean, just needs to attack the strike zone better.
Maybe this will help jog the memory banks
so having finally watched Withrow from the other day
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the timing of the different steps in his mechanics is off. everything looks ok (though I don’t like that he leads with his left heel instead of accelerating down into his toes which would allow for a softer landing and less strain on the body over time). Stuff looks okay (fastball was kinda straight, which I have to assume is what gets him in trouble). I’m gonna get some ‘how can you tell after seeing only a few pitches’ grief, but I’m rescinding my Chris Withrow is gonna go off next year bandwagon. I’m gonna have to take a look at him next year to see what’s up, but as of right now, I don’t trust him to get better than he is now without some more mechanical improvements and a fastball that isn’t so hittable.
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by G.Scott on Aug 25, 2011 7:10 PM PDT up actions
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specifically, his legs are behind, and they need to go before the upper body otherwise the release point stays inconsistent
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by G.Scott on Aug 25, 2011 7:12 PM PDT up actions
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This list seems to suggest that Matt Moore is better than Nathan Eovaldi!
Okay, I guess that’s true.
by Michael White on Oct 5, 2011 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Always shocking these lists:
1. Tolleson even made the list as a relief pitcher
2. Silverio made it and Van Slyke did not. Makes me think they think Silverio can really play CF
Webster made two lists, bit unusual, especially when you think of his performance in AA.
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You’d think Silverio not knowing what the strike zone is would count against him.
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You’d think.
I’m shocked Griff did not make the Cal League, but even more shocked Silverio made this list. With that plate discipline I’ve never really thought of him as a legitimate prospect but here he is listed as the fifth best position prospect in the Southern League.
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I saw your comments in the Cal League fan post but no mention of Griff. Do you think I am over valuing him based on this performance this year and not putting enough weight on his MWL performance?
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Just Going By Stats I Was Impressed With Griff...
But there is no “buzz” about him at all, and when Colletti was talking about why he traded for Fed-Ex, his remarks about the catchers in the system made it sound like the Dodgers had nothing between Ellis and the low minors (Griff was already in Double A at the time, just like Fed-Ex). So if the Dodgers don’t believe in Griff, I don’t know what to think about him. I will have to decide before I do my Top 30 this year.
There’s some strange commissions then. Vincent Catricala in the Mariners organization is a 22 year old with similar numbers to Goldschmidt and he didn’t even make the list.
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10th round, wasn’t much last year, had a huge start A ball then kept raking at AA.
It’s probably, but where comparing him to Alfredo Silverio and Scott Van Slyke.
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I somehow missed that he’s actually on there, but below Silverio.
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Dodgers 5
Diamondbacks 4
Braves 4
kind of dominate the list
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Numbers 1 and 3 have made a nice impact on the MLB playoffs so far.
My first reaction when Goldschmidt hit the ball in the fifth inning last night was “that’s a deep flyout”…until I immediately saw Marcum just chuck his glove in the air in frustration.
A pair of reasonably close games (4-1 and 3-1) really turned into blowouts in a hurry at roughly the same time. That top of the eighth inning for the Yankees seemed to never end.
Yeah, I spent all day yesterday in a sports bar (from the 6th inning of the first game until the final out of the last game) and it was pretty good until the Tigers stopped being able to get anyone out and the Dbacks just opened it up.
Like you said, both at almost the exact same time.
The whole sequence with Marcum and LeCroy ending up with a grandslam and Marcum throwing his glove in the air was one of the strangest I’ve ever witnessed. I didn’t listen to the post game interview but I wondered if he threw what he wanted or what LeCroy wanted, or if the delay from his last pitch to that pitch was enough to throw a hanger.
Either way, huge ab by the rook. Diamondbacks will win again, this game is going back home.
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Also, that endless top of the eighth inning nearly completely overshadowed the great catch by Curtis Granderson to end the bottom of the seventh (he also had that one in the first inning which might have saved A.J. Burnett from himself).
Bad read, incredible catch to make up for it. I thought we’d have a shot at an inside the parker for a second.
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On the second one or the first one? I only saw a replay of the first inning one so I didn’t see his route
First one, he stepped in first then was oh fuck and made that leaping catch. Didn’t see the second one, I changed the game to Arizona by then.
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Ahh thanks
MLB.com has a video up with both catches and wow, Granderson almost fucked that first one up. Also, turns out the second catch was in the sixth inning, not the seventh. My memory is fading fast.
Granderson making that catch in the first changed the entire game.
by Michael White on Oct 5, 2011 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions
An
Optimist would say we could trade our failed prospect starters turned dominant relievers for others teams better starting prospects as long as Mr. Daniels remains in baseball.
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Haha
I was just messing around anyway. I am excited to see if Withrow can make the leap this year and if Webster can continue his path. Eovaldi can keep doing what he’s doing, too, until it is clear that he can’t.
this being baseball they might all become relievers, and Tolleson turned into a starter:)
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I've still got some hope for Withrow
He’s got a great skill set, just wild. If he could be the right handed version of Jonathan Sanchez I’d be pretty happy (please tell me he actually is a lefty, lol)
we’ll see
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 5, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
The only constant in baseball is the Yankees win.
Towers will figure out a way to screw up that team soon enough.
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by regfairfield on Oct 5, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't think any NL team other than the Phillies can be described as dominant
and even their’s might end soon, with most of their roster being older players.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 5, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Brandon
Last seven years who has come out of the DSL for the Dodgers to advance to AA and be successful?
Silverio?
Rubby?
Troncoso?
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I Usually Do It Befoore This Late In The Year...
..but people’s minds are pretty focused on the playoffs, so I was thinking maybe I should wait a bit. What do you think? Do people want to see it sooner rather than later?
We need things to do in the offseason
But I’m sure we are all eager for stuff to talk about now anyway.
i think these 3 just about cover it
I thought Kenley for a second but he never played in the DSL…went straight to the GCL as a 17 year old
by Brandon Lennox on Oct 5, 2011 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions
I made a fanpost for BA's Southern League prospect list
http://www.truebluela.com/2011/10/5/2471030/baseball-america-ranks-southern-league-top-prospects
let me know if you want me to ask any questions in the chat
“Eovaldi was way better than Webster in AA and had some good starts at the MLB level, yet Webster is ranked higher than Eovaldi?”
That is easy, scouts have always like Webster more the Eovaldi because of his control of multiple pitches while still bringing a 95 MPH fastball.
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“With an easy delivery, Webster pitches off a fastball that ranges from 90-95 mph. It’s a power sinker that he uses to get ahead in the count or induce groundballs, though he’s still refining his fastball command.”
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Eovaldi throws the ball very hard and not much else. Allen Webster might not actually be any good. It’s a toss up.
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by Nolij on Oct 5, 2011 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wonder years (1988–1993)
mind kind of semi sorta blown. Thought that show was a LOT older
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When did you watch it? Was it on Nick at Nite or some other channel as reruns?
I only ask because I remember watching it while it was on, which is why I remember the years, at least roughly. Just wondering where it was televised afterward.
I was 2-5 when it was on
and really don’t even remember on what channel the few episodes I watched where. I guess they just did such a good job of nailing the time period( 1968 to 1973) I assumed it was actually made back then.
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I think a lot of people my age are in the same boat
just asked my coworker and he thought it was probably on in the 70s
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I knew it wasn't
because Fred Savage kept appearing in more modern(at the time) media.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 5, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
two x's
one black, one red.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 5, 2011 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
a true classic
love that movie
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 5, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Does anyone remember his show on NBC I think where he worked in an office back in the 90s?
I don’t remember much about the show, except the fact that I enjoyed it at the time and it was pretty funny.
I remember the show existed, I remember watching it, I don’t remember one second of it. That can’t be a good sign.
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by regfairfield on Oct 5, 2011 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
nope
but he’s the voice of Oswalt (the eponymous octopus), which is a cool Zen-like cartoon with good music on Nick Jr.
Fred at age 13
was the most foul-mouthed and funniest young kid I had ever met. Became a great guy as an older teenager and young adult.
by The Dude Abides on Oct 5, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Starred in the greatest movie ever made as well.
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INCONCEIVABLE
“You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”
by The Dude Abides on Oct 5, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Directed 9 episodes of Party Down, directs some episodes of Its Always Sunny in addition to doing a bunch of Disney shows.
The best weird juxtaposition is Ben Garant and Tom Lennon. They were creators of Reno 911! and part of The State… but also wrote Night At The Museum, Herbie Fully Loaded, The Pacifier and a lot of other shitty movies.
They basically say, “Yeah, we make crappy mass-marketed comedies because we get paid lots of money to do it.”
In some ways the show was timeless
since the stuff that kids go through is pretty much the same. However, bringing in Vietnam (Winnie’s brother death), Women’s rights, and other issues of the day both made it different and also probably more difficult to sell in reruns and such.
they also had issues regarding
The syndication broadcast rights for the music used on the show.
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by David Young on Oct 5, 2011 10:37 AM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
it’s on Netflix now too
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 5, 2011 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Steven Douglas was the way to go.
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Good gig if you can get it
Fred MacMurray was the only actor to appear in every episode of the series. Reportedly, MacMurray’s contract stipulated that he work only 65 days per year. His scenes for each season were produced in two blocks of filming. He would report to the Desilu-Gower lot in late May and work 35 days (five days per week, weekends off), then take off for 10 weeks. He would then return to complete his remaining 30 days of shooting and was finished altogether around Thanksgiving. MacMurray’s ten-week hiatus in the middle of each season’s production schedule freed up the actor to follow other pursuits, while the filming of scenes with the other cast members continued. In short, all episodes were filmed out of sequence. Evidence of this is very apparent in several episodes, where plotlines had MacMurray’s character on a business trip (e.g. “Small Adventure”) or spending much of his time at the office (e.g. “Soap Box Derby”). This allowed him to seemingly take part in the entire episode with limited or no interaction with the other regulars during filming.
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Frasier?
my Dad
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 5, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Frasier was hit or miss but when it hit it hard.
The Wily Mo Pena of 90s sitcoms.
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by regfairfield on Oct 5, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Jose Reyes, prize free agent target this offseason for many teams, bares all for ESPN The Mag? (Possibly NSFW)
I thought the Yankee’s were playing every game until the series was done after that rainout?
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That would have happened if Saturday was rained out.
Today was always a scheduled travel day.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 5, 2011 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
so
there is a hearing in Delaware today right?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 5, 2011 10:01 AM PDT reply actions
12th what? No, the hearing originally scheduled for the 12th has been postponed, but definitively, to a hearing Oct. 31 through Nov. 5. The judge would not postpone it until December as McCourt wanted, in order to try to resolve things before the off-season.
Today’s hearing is to let McCourt present reasons why the judge should change his mind and force MLB to come up with confidential details of all 29 teams. The judge will not change his mind, and that will be that. McCourt may eventually appeal, but I have it on reasonable authority (Shaikin) that court actions are not usually stayed pending appeals.
So we will move on to the main hearing Oct. 31, when the judge has said that he will rule McCourt vs. MLB.
what time
is today’s hearing?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 5, 2011 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
thanks
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 5, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
right
where McCourt tries to get the judge to reconsider allowing them access to the MLB financial documents, yes?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 5, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
waaahhhh Tampa owner crying
Why aren’t people showing up?!?
Sternberg’s criticism comes after the Rays reached the postseason despite an epic offseason purge that chopped the team’s 2010 payroll of $71.9 million to $ 41.9 on Opening Day this season, the second-lowest in baseball.
Oh.
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by regfairfield on Oct 5, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
It would help!
When your big move in the offseason you let your franchise player go is trading Matt Garza for Hak-Ju Lee why the hell should anyone care?
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by regfairfield on Oct 5, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
well i certainly would not show up to watch Sean Rodriguez
But I do for Carroll and Miles… Go figure.
First, mix your metaphors
“You can look at us and potentially Oakland as the only teams in that respect,” Sternberg said, referring to the only team who drew fewer fans than Tampa this season, the Oakland A’s. “And Oakland by hook and crook will have a situation clearer well before we will, and we will be the last man standing. Or in this case, lying down.”
by Josie Becker on Oct 5, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
translated
Oakland, by any means necessary, will have a clearer situation well before we will, and we will be the victor. Er, the one lying down by ourselves.
by Josie Becker on Oct 5, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
They can’t compete. They have a shit stadium that nobody can get to (not easily anyway) and they play in a division with the Yankees and Red Sox. They’ll keep losing guys like Upton and Price (like Crawford) and won’t suck enough to draft new ones. They’ll eventually be back to living outside the playoffs and if the team can’t draw now, I don’t see how they’ll draw then.
by Michael White on Oct 5, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
they should gtfo of florida
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 5, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
But the Casino Morongo Marlins ceded their titular right to the whole state.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I swear, it’s only been a month since I read “the Extra 2%”, but I’ve already forgotten a lot of the details. I could have sworn they were locked into the Trop for another 2 decades.
by Michael White on Oct 5, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I have hobbies. Having no live TV to watch might be the best thing for me lifestyle wise.
by Michael White on Oct 5, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I would respond, but I think you’re mocking me.
by Michael White on Oct 5, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Also....
And go where? Short of dropping the team in Brooklyn to try and steal Yankees/Mets fans, i don’t see the market which is terribly desirable that’s not already being used.
by Michael White on Oct 5, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
People keep saying it
but if MLS moves to november as all the scuttlebut says it will, then it opens back up.
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Couldn’t even support a AAA team.
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by regfairfield on Oct 5, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
they sure are supporting the heck out of their MLS team
by Josie Becker on Oct 5, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
You draw 18,000 a game for baseball and you are the Rays.
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by regfairfield on Oct 5, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Maybe!
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by regfairfield on Oct 5, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
I would love that. But living in Portland back when there was a very outside shot at getting the Expos, nobody really wanted it. There was actually local opposition to it. They’ve gone all in with soccer and completely converted the former AAA stadium to a soccer stadium, so no, I don’t see it happening.
by Michael White on Oct 5, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
they might not really compete in the future though
if mls moves its season
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
MLS is floating that idea, but we’re still talking five years away. It had more momentum when the US was competing for the World Cup bid
by Josie Becker on Oct 5, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Dear Mr President
There are too many baseball teams these days, please eliminate three. I am not a crackpot.
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by regfairfield on Oct 5, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
mr selig, tear down that tropicana
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 5, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
LOL
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 5, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Easy
Eliminate the Rays, A’s, Royals, and we’ll all have tea.
by Josie Becker on Oct 5, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Eliminate someone else
and move the A’s to their territory
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The A's have history in Oakland
and they did outdraw the Giants until Pac Bell Park was built. If Oakland got a new park and beefed up its roster, it could compete well in the Bay Area.
They could build the new stadium in Oakland or anywhere in A’s territory and neither entity could say a thing really
They should just build the new stadium next to Oracle Arena and O.co and build a giant multi-purpose parking structure to be used by the A’s, Raiders and Warriors.
Lewis Wolff is worth $1.2 billion and is 75 years old. He could build a 40,000 seat stadium for $450mil and double the value of his franchise.
Why do that when you can refuse to invest in your product, blame the customer for not buying your product while still making a shitload of money.
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by regfairfield on Oct 5, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Forbes:
says the A’s last year made a $23.2MM profit, with only the Tigers (-$19MM) and Red Sox (-$1.1MM) operating at a loss. The Yankees income of $427MM was about a third higher than the Red Sox ($272MM) and Dodgers ($246MM)
what in the fuck?
I thought the Dodgers were operating at a loss last year. The payroll is shrinking with making 250 million last year? I hate Frank and Jaime.
You can’t lose money in the NFL
You have to be really terrible with your money (Detroit) to lose money in the MLB.
Never believe any baseball owner that cries poverty.
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by regfairfield on Oct 5, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Somehow we’re supposed to believe that basketball owners lose money hand over fist though?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
From what I’ve seen the NBA actually does have issues in small markets but it’s no where near the problem it’s made out to be.
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by regfairfield on Oct 5, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Some small markets do way better than large markets though (San Antonio, for instance). The losses that they claim seem completely imaginary, in the McCourtest sense.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
The Clippers have sucked and the Spurs have been excellent. Want to guess which club makes more money?
In the NBA, it makes more sense to suck in a large market than win in a small market.
by Michael White on Oct 5, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Well
that depends, if you take in account the debt that new owners are paying off, then some probably are losing money.
Detroit doesn't even give a shit
For now, he’s fine operating the Tigers as a loss leader so he can sell more pizzas.
by Michael White on Oct 5, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
All
non-Forbes related analysts don’t actually trust those numbers.
All I know is based on the documents that I have seen from the bankruptcy case, they are not making money.
Now, is some of that due to paying down debt, I don’t know.
I guess buying seven houses when you have negative income was a really bad idea.
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by regfairfield on Oct 5, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
The interesting thing to find out
is did MLB approve whatever financial plan the Dodgers told them back in 2009/2010. Look, they could have asked to see the books at any time so I don’t really care that they claim surprise at the McCourt’s spending now.
If they agreed to the plan and now say no, I think McCourt has a fair issue to pursue, if he gets that chance, I don’t know.
It is against
sports ownership rules to build their own stadium, I seem to recall MLB not too happy when the Giants built their park primarily with private money.
I have no idea
why being 75 years old means anything to that statement. He could also donate 1000 scholarships to schools across country and probably do more good.
Building a stadium would give people jobs
and inject money into the economy. Its not that cut and dry.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
but he isn’t complaining about schools not being able to get students to enroll. He owns a product, has a clear solution, the means to that solution, and doesn’t want to do it.
Him being 75 applies to the “What the hell is he waiting for” principle.
Well
we don’t know that since Wolff claims that Selig has been sitting on their proposal for several years.
selig has sat on his hands while letting the giants have their way
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=bryant_howard&id=6665421
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Why would Wolfe want
to build his own stadium with his own money when San Jose is lining up to pay the bill?
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Actually
the proposal is for a privately financed stadium though I am sure the land and other fees will be greatly reduced.
Didn't you hear?
The Angels and Dodgers already have the lowest ratings in baseball.
by Michael White on Oct 5, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
several of those teams
were playing in awful multipurpose stadiums
by Josie Becker on Oct 5, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
several of those teams
were playing awful
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by regfairfield on Oct 5, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
and every city had two teams for some reason. Philly had two, St. Louie had two, NY had three, Chicago had two, Boston had two…so at least eleven of the 16 had direct competition in their same city until teams started moving west and baseball expanded.
by Josie Becker on Oct 5, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Our country’s population has gone way up since then. You have to assume tthat some of these people crossing the border are baseball fans :P
by lnickerson88 on Oct 5, 2011 2:28 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Couple of updates
I added service time to the payroll worksheet, and extended it to 2014 (will add assumptions for 2014 once the roster takes shape). Right now there are placeholders on the 25-man roster, and I will update as the team makes moves.
Dodgers are at ~$103.5 million for 2012 with arb assumptions (all but Kuo are back) and the roster filled with a bunch of near-minimum guys. I haven’t really looked into Kemp yet (will later this offseason), but it really wouldn’t surprise me if he surpasses the $13 million I have for him next year.
I also forgot that Ronald Belisario has one year, 151 days of service time, and not one year, 133 days. There was a dispute regarding his first trip to the restricted list in 2010 that resulted in a grievance and eventual settlement which added 18 days to his service time. The roster breakdown from the other day has been updated.
Dodgers - Giants from 2001 on ESPN Classic
Watching this 11-10 win of ours back then (believe we eliminate the Giants in this game) and I don’t even remember a couple of these guys being on the team.
I did turn 21 that year and was renting a house with friends (so lots of drinking). That probably has something to do with my memory.
I
was there, the game went on for over 5 hours. All mass-transit was closed, there were no cabs, so we walked several miles back to the hotel that night.
Remember, remember the best .gifs of September
http://www.sbnation.com/2011/10/5/2466123/the-best-gifs-of-september-part-i-of-iv
including, yes, of course, that huggy one.
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Look who is at UCSB
Diamond Leung
RT @ThrowbackAttack #lakers Kobe Bryant just walked into classroom at #UCSB. About to speak yfrog.com/obyllj
Nolander alert
Diamond Leung
Kobe Bryant, of course, is a UC Irvine fan. youtube.com/watch?v=7vqBGh…
yeah its sorta random
until you realize he lives in the OC.
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Updates on McCourt vs MLB
EricFisherSBJ Eric Fisher
Gross says he will hear #Dodgers attorney disqualification dispute now on Oct. 12, not Oct. 31 as previously scheduled.
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and what's Shaikin
BillShaikin Bill Shaikin
Judge Gross: “I didn’t think very highly of the (MLB) disqualification motion, to be blunt.”
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like kids sniping at each other
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 5, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions

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