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Best 19 and 20 year old seasons by Los Angeles Dodger Pitcher

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Yesterday we looked at the best 19 and 20 year old season for a position player and Adrian Beltre was clearly the winner.  Today we are going to look at the pitchers. Joe Moeller wasn't very good but he was the only 19 year old to qualify and he did have some interesting numbers so we should give him his credit. On the other hand the 20 year old season by Fernando was one for the ages, and stuff that legends are made of. If you were lucky enough to be cognizant in 1981 you enjoyed one of the greatest Dodger seasons ever, not just for the team but for the individual performance by Fernando. I'm not here to rank his season against the best seasons ever by a Dodger pitcher but Fernando Valenzuela was clearly the best 20 year old the Dodgers ever had, and quite possibly the greatest 20 year old anyone has ever seen this side of Bob Feller and Dwight Gooden. Couldn't help myself, I had to peak, using ERA+ as a guide it was the fourth best 20 year old season since the Dodgers moved west. Based on OPS against, I'd rank him 2nd.

                                                                                            
Rk                Player ERA+ Year Age  Tm GS CG SHO  W L W-L%    IP   H ER BB  SO  ERA  OPS
1          Dwight Gooden  229 1985  20 NYM 35 16   8 24 4 .857 276.2 198 47 69 268 1.53 .524
2       Dennis Eckersley  144 1975  20 CLE 24  6   2 13 7 .650 186.2 147 54 90 152 2.60 .631
3            Dave Rozema  139 1977  20 DET 28 16   1 15 7 .682 218.1 222 75 34  92 3.09 .700
4    Fernando Valenzuela  135 1981  20 LAD 25 11   8 13 7 .650 192.1 140 53 61 180 2.48 .549
5            Rick Ankiel  134 2000  20 STL 30  0   0 11 7 .611 175.0 137 68 90 194 3.50 .685

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Dodger 19 and 20 year old seasons with at least 10 starts or 30 games.

                                                                                                   
Rk                Player  WAR GS Year Age  G CG SHO  W L SV    IP   H ER BB  SO  ERA ERA+  OPS OPS+
1    Fernando Valenzuela  5.4 25 1981  20 25 11   8 13 7  0 192.1 140 53 61 180 2.48  135      .549
2        Clayton Kershaw  1.2 21 2008  20 22  0   0  5 5  0 107.2 109 51 52 100 4.26   98      .756
3        Doyle Alexander -0.5 12 1971  20 17  4   0  6 6  0  92.1 105 39 18  30 3.80   85      .689
4            Joe Moeller -1.1 15 1962  19 19  1   0  6 5  1  85.2  87 50 58  46 5.25   69      .777

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Tidbits:

Fernando led the league in starts with only 25 because of the strike shortened season. Led the league in CG, Shutouts, Innings Pitched, and Strikeouts at the age of 20 garnering the Cy Young, ROY, and placing fifth in the MVP voting. He also threw in a Silver Slugger award to cap off the greatest 20 year old season in LA Dodger History. How did he manage to win all those awards?

  • Game 1 -  Have to start at the beginning, opening day shutout as he replaced the injured Jerry Ruess. He only struck out five, looked like a fluky start to be sure.
  • Game 2 - Complete game, one earned run, 10 K's
  • Game 3 - Complete game shutout, 10 K's
  • Game 4 - Complete game shutout, 11 K's
  • Game 5 - Complete game shutout, seven hits, four walks, seven K's
  • That makes four his first five major leagues starts were four shutouts, he wasn't done yet
  • Game 6 - Complete game, gave up one earned run, no walks, seven K's
  • Game 7 - Complete game shutout, seven hits, five walks, 11 K's
  • Game 8 - Complete game, three hitter, gave up two earned runs for the first time in his career.
  • So let's add that up. Eight straight complete games to start the year. Five of them were shutouts. He gave up a total of four runs in those seventy two innings. At the age of 20. In his first eight major league starts.
  • He would only go 5 - 7 from that point on but what he did in the postseason would cement his legacy.
  • He started Game One of the NLDS and matched HOF Nolan Ryan 1 - 1 for eight innings. Dave Stewart would lose the game in the ninth by giving up two runs.
  • He started Game Four with the Dodgers down 2 games to 1 in a must win scenario and pitched the Dodgers to a 2 -1 victory going all nine innings and not giving up a run until the 9th. Houston scored once in the 9th but Tommy left Fernando in to finish up the game with the tying run on base.
  • Editor Note - Jerry Reuss would throw a shutout in gave five as the Dodgers won 3 games in a row after being down two games to advance to the NLCS. Reuss beat Nolan Ryan.
  • After losing Game Two of the NLCS, Fernando was called upon to pitch the deciding game. The series was tied 2 games to 2 and many consider this one of the greatest games in Dodger history. The 20 year old went 8 2/3 innings with Bob Welch getting the last out of the game after Fernando had put the tying and go a head runs on base via a walk. You had to watch this game to understand how big a game it was. The Expos had scored in the first inning but would never score again. The Dodgers were headed to NY.
  • Because Fernando had pitched the last game of the NLCS he was not able to pitch in the World Series until game three. The Dodgers had lost both games in NY and were down 2 - 0. Once again Fernando put the team on his back and pitched a complete game, but it was not easy. The Yankees scored twice in the second and third negating a three run first inning by the Dodgers. Headed into the bottom of the 3rd the Dodgers were down 4 - 3 and it looked like the hated Yankees would sweep us. Fernando would not let the Yankees score again. The Dodger hitters took care of the rest as they scored two in the fifth. Once again Fernando shook hands with Scoscia as the Dodgers won their first game of the series. They would not lose again.

Their is a very real reason why Fernando is the most beloved Dodger alive today. You simply can't make up what he did in 1981.

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Joe Moeller was the best 19 year old pitcher we have had but he wasn't very good. You could also point your finger at Moeller as a big reason why the Dodgers did not advance to the World Series in 1962. They ended the season tied with Giants and lost a playoff series. The 19 year old Moeller was forced to make 15 starts, which was one start too many. He had some solid games but in a period in June he was waxed five straight times. The lowlight of his season had to be June 29th, 1962 when the awful Mets pasted him for four runs in the first. He walked four of the first five hitters he faced. Ron Perranoski replaced him and did him no favors by walking three of the four hitters he faced. Perry was replaced by Phil Ortega who finally got the last out of the inning. The Dodgers ended up walking seven hitters that inning. Moeller's best game had to be April 23rd, a complete game 5 - 2 victory over a loaded Milwaukee Bravse team in front of all of 7600 fans.  I suspect Dodger fans expected big things from Moeller after seeing him make 15 starts as a 19 year old but it was not to be. He would have some success in 1964 but was out of baseball by the age of 28 even though in his last three years his ERA was never higher then 3.92.

Doyle Alexander was drafted in the ninth round of the legendary 1968 draft as an 18 year old and made his debut on June 26th, 1971.  Doyle would go onto pitch 19 seasons and be involved in one of the more interesting trades in the history of baseball, but in 1971 he was a Dodger.  He got off to a great start by pitching eight innings in his first game as the Dodgers beat the Padres 4 - 3. Doyle followed that up with a complete game victory 9 -2 for his first major league win. He gave up 12 hits in those nine innings and struck out only four. If you take a look at his game logs you will notice that the strikeout was not really in his repertoire.  Doyle would throw three complete games in August, winning all three games, while only giving up one run in each game. For a twenty year old he sure seemed to know how to pitch. Yet the Dodgers said good bye to Doyle and traded him during the off season for a HOF. I can remember being sad to see the young pitcher go, but Frank Robinson was one of my favorite players so I was not very upset. Frank Robinson was coming to town.

December 2, 1971: Traded by the Los Angeles Dodgers with Bob O'Brien, Sergio Robles and Royle Stillman to the Baltimore Orioles for Pete Richert and Frank Robinson

Clayton Kershaw surprised many by forcing his way into the rotation at the age of 20 but it was no surprise that he was solid in his debut season. While Kershaw was showing Vin Scully Uncle Charley in the spring and dominating the men in AA, my niece was in Mexico for a college class and one of her classmates had been a high school classmate of Clayton's so she had asked me about him. I was more then happy to let her know that Mr. Kershaw was the greatest thing since sliced bread and hopefully would be pitching for us soon.  Little did we know that a few weeks later he'd be making his debut and as luck would have it, Kalia was staying with us in a brief stopover in Los Angeles before heading home.  As with the other 127,000 plus Dodger fans who watched Clayton make his debut, we fell in love with him and have never stopped. Clayton may not be the best 20 year old in this series but I have a feeling he is going to find himself at the top of some future ones. It will be interesting to see who wins a few of the battles between Fernando and Clayton from age 21 - 23. 

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Have to say, I’d have traded Goldschmidt for Konerko.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 12:09 PM PDT reply actions  

I’d only do that trade if my team was older and built more for winning now. That can’t be how they are thinking though. With the pitching they have in the minors my guess is they are building for the future.

by VegasBlues on Oct 6, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

flags fly forever

But I completely get what you’re saying, it’s hard to trade the future away when you’re built for that, but 94 or 95 wins means you’ve gotta go for now too.

by Ivdown on Oct 6, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Flags fly only slightly more often than pigs

They flap or they hang mostly. If they do fly its because someone fucked up and didn’t tie it down.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 6, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana.

by kinbote on Oct 6, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was thinking the same thing

Konerko has been nothing but great with the bat the last 2 seasons.

by Ivdown on Oct 6, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

not me

Dont think the marginal improvement for the Dbax (already a good hitting team) is worth giving up that any cost controlled years of Goldy.

Maybe if Goldschmidt was the centerpiece for a trade that brings back a #1 starter..I’d consider it.

by Joey Joe on Oct 6, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

wow

I had forgotten how good Rich Ankiel once was.

by kinbote on Oct 6, 2011 12:19 PM PDT reply actions  

i agree

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wish I was cognizant enough of Fernando in 1981.

Factor in Valenzuela’s 10 relief appearances and 17 2/3 innings in 1980 with only two unearned runs allowed, and after those eight starts in 1981 Fernando had pitched 89 2/3 innings and had a 0.40 ERA.

What a force of nature.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 12:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Also, even after those eight complete games to start his rookie season, Fernando still averaged over seven innings per start over his final 17 starts. 7.07 during those 17 starts, 7.69 on the season. As a 20-year old.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

His Silver Slugger Award seems unjustified:)

Rk Player H Year Age BA OBP SLG OPS Pos
1 Adrian Beltre 148 1999 20 .275 .352 .428 .780 *5
2 Derrell Griffith 69 1964 20 .290 .307 .424 .732 59/7
3 Ron Fairly 58 1959 20 .238 .324 .344 .668 *98/7
4 Bill Russell 48 1969 20 .226 .301 .344 .645 *98/7
5 Willie Davis 28 1960 20 .318 .348 .477 .825 *8
6 Fernando Valenzuela 16 1981 20 .250 .262 .281 .543 *1
7 Bill Buckner 13 1970 20 .191 .225 .265 .490 *7/39
8 Roger Cedeno 10 1995 20 .238 .283 .286 .568 78/9

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but he was one of the best 20 year old hitters we have ever had.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 12:29 PM PDT reply actions  

That triple must have left an indelible mark :)

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unlike your triple he really was safe

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

i had one triple in LL. I was about 14

the guy that played CF on the other team i was friends with. Manuel Monge. He had a cannon, so we called him Mongesi. He played shallow, i got lucky and hit it over him, he had a great throw from the wall, I was dead at third but the 3B dropped it.

by delias man on Oct 6, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

So you hit a double.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 6, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

ha ha

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

If that counts as a triple

I hit an inside the park home run when I was 8.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

So you were Danny Almonte?

Age limit is 12

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 6, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

he was a “special” exception

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

it was called something else then

by delias man on Oct 6, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just had a funny thought ( for me anyway) what if Delias never knew he was a “special exception” until now?

We called it Babe Ruth.

For Us
Little League 10 – 12
Babe Ruth 13 – 15
Connie Mark or Senior Babe Ruth 16 – 18
With the best players playing American Legion Ball

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

In Arcadia

LL 9 – 12
Pony League 13 – 14
Babe Ruth/Connie Mack/High School > 14

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 6, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

that would be shocking

i think for us after LL it was Juniors then Seniors but it was still through the local LL

by delias man on Oct 6, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

ditto

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

nowdays

little league goes up through 18 years old

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

who are those kids that play AYSO

all the way to Division One? Get on the high school team or give up losers.

by delias man on Oct 6, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I switched to club by Division 4

by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Div 2 was intense

teams from SP PV and torrance played in same league. The PV kids were the punching bags of the league.

by delias man on Oct 6, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like every non baseball sport

I gave up on soccer after 3 years

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I only played baseball, and sucked at it

My older bro was good at both baseball and hockey. My younger bro was really good as basketball.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 6, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hit ball hard

but run slow and lack dexterity. Couildn’t catch a fly ball to save my life.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

My Dad told me

he had the exact opposite problem. He couldn’t hit a lick, but was the only one on his team who could field.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 6, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

My uncle was just like that

He would have been like Darin Erstad or something. 30 UZR in 1999 with a .300 wOBA.

by Ivdown on Oct 6, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

We know

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 6, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

and they put me in left field!

the fools!

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

so

you were Manny

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 6, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

they put me in left at the softball game

somehow they let me play 3rd in LL, but when they got sick of seeing me suck there they got to watch me suck in LF. I did make a sweet play once cutting across the diamond on a slow high chopper heading towards the SS, but thats probably my only defensive highlight.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

My younger bro was really good as basketball.

so he was dribbled a lot?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

har har

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 6, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha

I can relate to Fernando since he and I both competed on the field at Palm Springs Angels Stadium

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

That 1981 NLCS Game 5 was on MLB Network at some point in the last year or so, and I finally watched it. Gotta love a game to decide the pennant winner on a Monday afternoon.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 12:33 PM PDT reply actions  

And they played

Game 1 of the World Series the next night.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 6, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice pull

Some haphazard scheduling. I never knew that.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was one tired ass Dodger team that trolled into NY.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was in school. The Monday HR was during lunch and we had a TV in one of the classrooms. Then the bell rang and we went to our classes. Our teacher was strict but the class across the hall had the game on during class. Dodger got in trouble and you could hear the moaning and cheering. Teacher got pissed at me for trying to wave down the other class about what had happened.

by Xeifrank on Oct 6, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember watching that game, I have no idea where, I was lucky enough to be in my last year of college at the time so I’m sure I watched every single postseason game. By the time we got to play the Yankee’s my nerves were already shot. The Houston series drained me.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yankees lineup

Jeter SS
Granderson CF
Cano 2B
Rodriguez 3B
Teixeira 1B
Swisher RF
Posada DH
Martin C
Gardner LF

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 12:33 PM PDT reply actions  

No more Hank 2 on MNF any more. He claims it was his call, rambles some more.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 6, 2011 12:38 PM PDT reply actions  

BANNED

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

June 1988 to October 1988

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tiebreaker here (since both have Lakers and Dodgers titles) is the Kings trading for Wayne Gretzky in August 1988.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Have to stay with mine since the 81 was my favorite Dodger championship and 82 was my favorite Laker Championship.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because fuck Philly for the second time?

by Alex41592 on Oct 6, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

1982 gets props since that year had the only acceptable “Beat LA” chant

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is why I can’t root for the Diamondbacks (or Padres or Rockies.) I can’t cheer for any fanbase that chants that absurd saying.

by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

i wish you would go to a game at chase.

you would hate them so much more. the rattle, mike and vanessa, the indoors. Yuck.

by delias man on Oct 6, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve only ever been to one baseball game that was in doors. It was August in Houston (100+ temp and something like 90% humidity). I loved the fact that the roof was closed and I got to watch the game without feeling like I was swimming in my own sweat.

by VegasBlues on Oct 6, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve been to 10 games or so at Chase. Hate it pretty bad.

Fans were pretty cool though. That rattle was annoying

by keithc13 on Oct 6, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't get all the venom towards Beat LA

who cares? Whats so damn absurd about it?

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

people complaing about it

is almost as dumb as people complaining about people complaining about it.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

But plastic sticks full of air are a great idea.

:)

by keithc13 on Oct 6, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

as long as they are done in rythm

that rarely happens though

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

it was pretty cool watching it

during the WBC

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 6, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

We all know that Asians hate MLB so we will never see that amazing sight at Dodger Stadium.

by delias man on Oct 6, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Having seen Japan-Korea at Dodger Stadium, I can verify the falseness of this statement. The Korean baseball fans are probably the most fun fans of anything I have ever been around.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 6, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

OK

you will never see it in a MLB game at DS.

by delias man on Oct 6, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

We all know that Asians hate MLB

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

He also said Dodger Stadium.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 6, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Make them wood and put yourself in Japan. They now become pretty cool.

by VegasBlues on Oct 6, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I went to 3 or 4 games in Japan.

I’m just not a fan of the artificial noise makers, I guess.

I do like the baseball though.

Bunch of Jamey Carroll’s!

by keithc13 on Oct 6, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is dumb

And teams chant it winning by 10 or losing by 10, which makes even less sense.

by Ivdown on Oct 6, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

How does it not make sense?

they want to beat LA, so they say “beat la”. Makes sense.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you’re down big in the 9th inning, it’s pretty pathetic. Im pretty sure the Dbacks fans did that in the last series of the year.

I also think it’s better to build up your team rather than trying to get something in about the other team. At Kershaw’s last start there were sooooo many idiots sitting near me just screaming giants suck, fuck the giants, all that. I told them when not chant Let’s Go Dodgers, Let’s go (whoever is batting), or something else like that.

I think it makes the fanbase look worse when they chant things about the other team. It doesn’t matter in the scheme of things but that’s how I feel about it.

by Ivdown on Oct 6, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its pathetic to want to win

and to cheer on your team. Got it. BEAT LA is nothing like “Giants Suck” IMHO. Its not demeaning in any way.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I actually appreciate the fact that it’s more appropriate than “Dodgers/Lakers suck.”

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 6, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll amend mine

March 1988 to October 1988.

Since that also includes the birth of Clayton Kershaw. BOOM

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

and the Dodgers drafted and signed Mike Piazza, Pedro Martinez, Raul Mondesi, and Eric Karros

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

should say “and/or”

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

1988 would also be when the Clippers won the lottery, and drafted Danny Manning, yes?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 6, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Up until the Elton Brand trade, that might be the greatest Clippers highlight ever.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 6, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Drafting a guy who blew out his knee’s is our highlight?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Enough about Olowokandi Bo Kimble Darius Miles…

Serious question, who do Clipper fans consider the best Clipper ever?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 6, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Zach Randolph

In all seriousness, it has to be Brand with Griffin a playoff run away from catching him.

by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

So Brand makes up in his shorter tenure for the slightly-above-averageness of the likes of Manning, Ken Norman and Loy Vaught in longer stints?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 6, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Easy

you must have a strange memory regarding Manning.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Corey Maggette just beats out Loy Vaught.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Best player on the best Clipper team ever. Also a transformational trade. Getting Brand had an immediate impact which built up to the playoff run. Sure, the playoff run only lasted one season (it should have lasted more) but it’s not like anybody else has more of a claim.

by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brand was a Clipper for 7 seasons. That’s more than Manning and Norman and the same as Vaught.

by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

He would have been my pick too. Blake Griffin doesn’t have far to go to take that spot, just one extension and it’s his.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 6, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

too bad Mike does not remember him

by delias man on Oct 6, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not as a Clipper. His Clipper prime was 94-95 when I was 11 years old.

by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

stat wise Maggette was clearly better using WS

Brand
Corey
Vaught
Manning
Pike

Using PER average
Brand
Blake

Maggette is 6th but two of the guys head of him only played one year.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brand's first year in LAC he put up a 23.6 PER

His worst season (not counting the 8 game season he played after hurting the achilles) was 21.7. Those numbers are awesome.

by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup

Chris Kaman, not so much.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Too bad. A true homegrown Clipper and the last remaining player from the playoff season.

Oh well.

by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought PER or WS would be kinder to him then I have been. Not to be

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wins Produced (WP) hates him more than those two metrics do too.

Because he’s a tall guy who’s an average at best rebounder and is inefficient shooter. He’s got a jump shot, but tall guys should be grabbing rebounds and putting in put backs at a high clip.

by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Griffin needs more than one extension for the spot. Brand re-signed once too. My standards aren’t all that high, but winning a playoff series is a must before he’s better than EB.

by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brent Barry winning the Dunk Contest is clearly the greatest Clipper accomplishment

by delias man on Oct 6, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey I don’t have to admend mine and it includes drafting James Worth:)

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

However I strike out once again on Magic and keep thinking his debut season was 81/82 when it was 79/80.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

That will change to 2012-2013

When the Dodgers and Angels make the WS, Dodgers sweep, then the Lakers and Clippers play in the Western Conference Finals, and Lakers win then win the Finals, then USC goes undefeated and win the National Championship.

Totally happening

by Ivdown on Oct 6, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Everything makes perfect sense except for USC

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

They are yesterdays news. They had a good run.

by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would disagree, but with UCSD joining the SEC I’ll let it slide.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s actually exactly the program I was thinking of. Without the hookers for play scandals.

by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yet.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 6, 2011 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Our problem is that we have a lot of money, right? So maybe, our goal should be to spend it.”

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 6, 2011 12:39 PM PDT reply actions  

“What is happening in New York? Spending all that money is miraculously working out!!”

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 6, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, the best part is the top hat and cane drawn next to Robinson Cano’s name.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 6, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

hm?

missed that

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

At the 0:44 mark. Top hat, cane, and bow tie.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 6, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

nice

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s the most important thing I read all week.

by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

To bad Willie Davis is no longer around for the new Mr Ed to give him hitting advice.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are you nostalgic for the days when channels were so limited you’d watch a show about a talking horse? Well have we got something for you!

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by regfairfield on Oct 6, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lemme guess

starring Adam Sandler

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by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

that or Rob Schneider

as Mr. Ed. Or both.

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by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

John Elway

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 6, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

just the rights have been optioned so far, we’re still a few years away from this hitting the screen

by Josie Becker on Oct 6, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

They are waiting for everyone

who remembered the original series to die first?

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by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

who knows

it’s been planned in the vein of Marley and Me and the Chipmunk movies

by Josie Becker on Oct 6, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Poorly?

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by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I knew it!

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by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

but executed well.

by kinbote on Oct 6, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was figuring Sandler as the owner

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by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

sure

never saw the darn show

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by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nolander was never a child.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 6, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

No

I’m just not OLD

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by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

This would work if I did not know for a fact you younguns spend way to much time watching bad television that was made in the 60’s.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ya, I watched some Mr. Ed as a kid.

by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

what channel?

I didn’t have cable till I was like, 11

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Definitely wasn’t cable. Remember watching it at my grandmother’s apartment and she didn’t have cable. I’m thinking Fox after a Dodger game or something. Like how they run I love lucy now.

by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

used to watch it nights after the nickelodeon lineup was done

by Josie Becker on Oct 6, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fox did not exist back when Mr. Ed was first made/shown. Doesn’t mean it wasn’t the channel showing 15th repeats, of course.

Back when, it would have had to be NBC or CBS, or just maybe ABC, but unlikely.

I checked. CBS, from 1961.

by berkowit28 on Oct 6, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was told by my eight year old nephew 20 years ago Nick a Nite I believe when he was talking about a show with a talking horse.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I haven't done that since I was a kid

I have a hard time watching anything even from the mid to late 90s now. Friends and Seinfeld as big exceptions

by Ivdown on Oct 6, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

The people I work with don’t know what “Silver Spoons” is.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 6, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Everyone should know that one. If only for the title sequence.

by kinbote on Oct 6, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

John Forgety does

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is cracking me up

Humma I’d be laughing a lot less if you weren’t posting in here.

by Ivdown on Oct 6, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Buy me a train for my house and I swear I’ll drive around in it.

by keithc13 on Oct 6, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

In your industry

weren’t they all born with one?

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 6, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

You aren’t kidding.

When I bought my last car, I splurged a little bit. I bought a Honda CRV with leather seats and the satellite navigation. I was excited to have such a fancy car. My parents never had a car as nice as that car.

It is easily, and without question, the shabbiest car belonging to anybody in my department, and that includes the assistants.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 6, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

dont you need

something bigger with all those kids?

by delias man on Oct 6, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes is the crazy answer.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 6, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Warner lot

is where I saw my first Nissan Leaf. And there were two side-by-side

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 6, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's one I could do

as long as it’s high school and not middle school.

by Ivdown on Oct 6, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Learning Venn Diagrams takes all the joy away of watching talking horses.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I learned ven diagrams

the same day I made a turlte out of stones and glue. Still got that turtle somewhere.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

always enjoyed the cover of the Mertle the Turtle book

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is that like Yertle the Turtle?

by kinbote on Oct 6, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Must be:)

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought Irvine was Pleasantville.

by kinbote on Oct 6, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

safest city in america

according to businessinsider. 0 murders per 1000

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

how about per 5000?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

carry the 0....

0

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s not considered murder when just your soul dies. /i’llstopnow

by kinbote on Oct 6, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Stepford wives don’t have souls, they only eat them

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

but they just approved

non beige homes! I

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

You must live somewhere very cosmopolitan, right?

by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know, I remember from when we met at the TBLA night :)

by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is a man’s god-given right to take the piss out of Orange County, no matter where else he lives.

Kinbote could live in Northern Idaho and he could still make fun of Irvine.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 6, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I also went to college there for three years and my grandparents lived in Irvine for their retirement years. Right across from the golf course :)

by kinbote on Oct 6, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its an ok course

you would expect them to take better care of the grass with it being in irvine, but alas.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I live in Idaho and grew up in Irvine.

/random

by VegasBlues on Oct 6, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then why do you have the Vegas Blues?

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 6, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

why do you think he had to move to idaho?

it certainly couldn’t have been by choice

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lived in Vegas from 12 to 25. This is a screen name I have used on Dodger blogs and other sports forums (first was back on Sandbox fantasy sports back in 99 or so) for quite some time.

When my health started deteriorating 5 years or so ago I ended up moving up here to Idaho to live with family since I couldn’t work anymore.

by VegasBlues on Oct 6, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s awful — I’m sorry to hear it. Hope things get better or are getting better for you.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 6, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gotta worst than Jerry Sands in terms of Prospect status
Kevin_Goldstein
Rockies take Greg Reynolds off 40-man. Nice job with the 2 pick there. Passed on Longoria.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 6, 2011 1:10 PM PDT reply actions  

2006

Best first round ever?

by Ivdown on Oct 6, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

2005: Upton, Tulo, Braun, Zimmerman, Gordon, Ellsbury, McCutchen, Garza, Bucholz, Bruce, Rasmus, Romero, Maybin

We got Luke Hochevar.

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by regfairfield on Oct 6, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

well

we did pick 40th. Who did we give up our pick for?

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by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

We got Derek Lowe!
^ Pick from Los Angeles Dodgers as compensation for signing of free agent Derek Lowe

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by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okay, so that one worked out.

by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I figured it would be between this and 06

Longoria, Kershaw, Lincecum, Morrow, Stubbs, Scherzer, Snider, Kennedy, Bard, (One Year Wonder Rookie of the Year) Coghlan.

Yeah, 2005 is definitely better. Players like Drabek, Conger, Colvin will have to kick some major ass for 06 to come anywhere near.

by Ivdown on Oct 6, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

They then went and got Tulo

man, that would be kind of cool to have those two on the same team, as long as that team wasn’t in the NL West.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also passed on Kershaw, Lincecum, Scherzer, Stubbs and several other legit major leaguers.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 6, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

so did like 5 other teams

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Apologies to Bhsportsguy

Willie Davis will be playing quite an important role in my series after all.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 1:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Whew

I thought Baseball Reference was wrong for once.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 6, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was trying not to get a head of myself but couldn’t. It will be interesting how to deal with the differences in offensive production and defensive value.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Westboro Church morons are apparently going to protest at Steve Jobs funeral. They announced this via twitter’s iPhone app.

They don’t like Steve Jobs or what he has done but they like his phones!

by VegasBlues on Oct 6, 2011 1:18 PM PDT reply actions  

You realize that their entire existence

is as lawsuit bait right? They piss people off, get into a fight, sue people, make money.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate that the news even gives those asshats any air time

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 6, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Finks.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 6, 2011 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

More news via Twitter

Justin Sellers is getting yet another tattoo.

 And Lizzy Caplan is jpining New’ Girl, to give that show too much to handle for indiehipster loving guys.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Oct 6, 2011 1:25 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

gtfoh

now they need katy perry to join the cast and they will have the clone market cornered

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 6, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t know who LIzzy Caplan, but the Sellers news is the best news I’ve heard all week! (sorry Mr. Ed)

by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

she was in Mean Girls

as the fat dudes friend

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by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah, the Lebanese girl.

by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

i really should watch that

didn’t know it had her AND Martin Starr!

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

and….mmmmmmmmm…..Adam Scott. I’d hetero-marry him.

by Josie Becker on Oct 6, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

We just call that “marry.”

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 6, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

And Jane Lynch.

Really just watch the dang show.

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by regfairfield on Oct 6, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Suddenly that show looks way more appealing.

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by regfairfield on Oct 6, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

it has funnys

but has done a rather shitty job of telling stories.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

We just call that “marry.”

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 6, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m serious – Sellers is gonna be broke before the season starts. He needs to think about his kids.

by delias man on Oct 6, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

does he have kids?

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

a daughter

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 6, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

He went from looking at a career that would never pay him more then 20,000 to making that in one month. Let the man splurge until his belly is full and vomit is the only recourse to start enjoying again.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

And then, with his last dollar, rent a copy of “The Blue Angel.”

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 6, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

His Twitter profile lists him as an infielder for the Los Angeles Dodgers. While techinically true (now) it’ll be awkward when he has to change that to infielder in the Dodgers system by the time spring training is over.

by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

nice

what does Preston’s say?

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 6, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure it says “outfielder in the Dodgers system”

by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

“fuk’d ’em”

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 6, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

lmao!

That was the first thought in my mind

by Ivdown on Oct 6, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I need twitter to look at his info? Because all I see is that Donnie is making that internet money.

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 6, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Per Wikipedia - Mr. Ed in syndication

In the United States, reruns aired on Nick at Nite from March 3, 1986, to February 1, 1993.3 Sister station TV Land also reran the show from 1996-98 and again from 2003-06. The series is currently broadcast every morning on This TV, along with sister series The Patty Duke Show. As of January 1, 2011, the first two seasons of the show are available on Hulu.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 6, 2011 1:37 PM PDT reply actions  

The Patty Duke Show

Now that was a show. Cause they’re cousins… identical cousins…

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 6, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was enamoured and why does the SBN spellcheck think enamoured is not a word?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because you live in America. (That is, try it without the u.)

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 6, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

There’s an SBN spellcheck?

by kinbote on Oct 6, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

sbn spellcheck sucks

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think its actually chrome though

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

When theme songs told you all you need to know

But they’re cousins,
Identical cousins all the way.
One pair of matching bookends,
Different as night and day.

Where Cathy adores a minuet,
The Ballet Russes, and crepe suzette,
Our Patty loves to rock and roll,
A hot dog makes her lose control —
What a wild duet!

by bhsportsguy on Oct 6, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s crazy because they look the same but act so differently!

by kinbote on Oct 6, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

There’s nothing new under the sun.

by kinbote on Oct 6, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sister Sister

did not have a jamming theme song

by bhsportsguy on Oct 6, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

My wife watches Tia and Tamara, the reality show.

It is horrile tv.

by keithc13 on Oct 6, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

ditto

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

It also seems super scripted

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by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

So lame.

I watch some of the dumb shit with her to make up for her not getting to watch tv on Saturdays, but that is lame.

by keithc13 on Oct 6, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

my mom was watching that

i wanted to ask why, but I thought better of it.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 6, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

hah

I have this impulse every day, but I’ve learned to stiffle it and just go to another room.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah Tommy

You are trained well for marriage.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 6, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 6, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

he really is

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

must be why i'm single

i’m like a used car

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 6, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now, before I ask any question, I ask myself two questions:

1) Do I really want to know the answer to this question?
2) Wouldn’t I really rather have a gin and tonic?

If, after those two questions, I still want to know, I ask the question.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 6, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

My problem is

its all too obvious to my wife when I am going through a similar though process, so she already knows I want to ask a dumb question, so I just do it anyways. DOH!

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's cause it was a kind of slowed down rappish type deal

Not a fan. Though Smart Guy’s first theme song was great, lol.

by Ivdown on Oct 6, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've heard a version of this song

in a cartoon

/Rocko’s Modern Life FTMFW

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 6, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

You left out the first two lines!

Cathy’s been most everywhere from Zanzibar to Barclay Square,
But Patty’s only seen the sights a girl can see from Brooklyn Heights —
What a crazy pair!

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 6, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Still whenever I see the guy

who played her dad, I think hey, that’s Patty Duke’s dad

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 6, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

That guy

was in everything – the Admiral in Get Smart

by bhsportsguy on Oct 6, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know Rob Neyer thinks he broke that story, but Uni-watch had a pic up of those seats weeks ago

by Josie Becker on Oct 6, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

haters gonna hate

I like it

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Figured if they make the logo look like something out of Back to the Future II they can make the Miami wins the World Series prediction come true.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Oct 6, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

they didn't win

it was the Cubbies!!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 6, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Come on, that is the stupidest looking Marlin ever designed by a human being

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

So that’s what that swoosh is supposed to be.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Oct 6, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

in the sense that they both start with M?

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

hes not the only one.

by NotJoeTorre on Sep 26, 2011 12:49 PM PDT on What Will It Take For Matt Kemp To Win The Batting Title? on True Blue LA

the official cap of Club Morongo

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 6, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like it too.

Better than their current uniforms/logo’s to me.

by keithc13 on Oct 6, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

thats going on a hat….

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 6, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gonna be confusing when everyone has ticket for Row M

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can’t believe no one wants to talk about Joe Moeller or Doyle Alexander

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 1:51 PM PDT reply actions  

I was going to talk about Fernando’s no no against the Cardinals, but it had nothing to do with him being 19 or 20.

by keithc13 on Oct 6, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I learned today Doyle Alexander was a Dodger. I did not know that until today. Thank you Phil, thank you.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 6, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Doyle Alexander is one of the Dodgers Dave Frishberg name checks in his classic song, “Dodger Blue.”

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 6, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

88 Lines About 44 Dodgers?

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 6, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Sigmund Jakucki… Van Lingle Munnnnnngo

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 6, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Augie Galan and Pinky May
Stan Hack, Frenchy Bourdegaray
Phil Cavaretta, George McQuinn
Howard Pollet and Early Wynn
Roy Campanella
Van Lingle Mungo

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 6, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

We used to have a crazy guy in my hometown that rode a bicycle everywhere and screamed at cars when they drove by him.

His name was Doyle Hooper.

He’s the only doyle I really care to discuss.

:)

by keithc13 on Oct 6, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

We had a crazy guy

who walked around town with a tennis racket on his back, but under his shirt. All you could see was the handle and the outline of the racket. He liked to hang out under freeway bridges.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 6, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love it.

Those dudes rock

by keithc13 on Oct 6, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not a Doyle but

At Brandeis, we had a guy who looked and dressed just like Prince. We called him Prince Guy.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 6, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

In my neighborhood now

There’s a guy who walks, actually shuffles is a better description, around the neighborhood humming at the top of his voice. I see him 3-4 times a week.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 6, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

He tells me the same story

every time he sees me walking my dogs, about a dog he used to have that looks like mine. The dogs I have now are not the dogs I had when he started telling me the story.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 6, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

That is funny

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 6, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

They are the same color, so at least he’s got that going for them

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 6, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

We had a crazy guy, his name was Charles White

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Orange County

has a guy who dresses like a pirate and hangs out near the laguna hills mall. thats pretty much it.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Steve?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 6, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I said pirate

not scuba diver

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Most our players end up Pirates. Does that count?

by kinbote on Oct 6, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

(applause)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 6, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

My brother played on that team for a couple seasons also. We were pretty good, made it all the way up to the A division of coed… then all of our younger players left besides myself and we got destroyed.

But the girl who got ran over was the wife of our goalkeeper. Our goalie was this 6’2", really skinny guy. He is basically one of the nicest guys I’ve ever met — except when some guy ran into his wife during soccer. I thought he was going to go beat the crap out of that guy.

by fbihop on Oct 6, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

My friend who lives in Anacrime

has this bum that parks in front of her house with his horribly crappy 1980s Acura, hand washes it with bottles of water, and goes off somewhere completely different for the rest of the night, picks up his car the next day.

Very confusing.

by Ivdown on Oct 6, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Doyle, Doyle. What has become of you?
Does anybody else here feel the way I do?”

by kinbote on Oct 6, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Doyle has the greatest trades to bookend his career of any major leaguer ever

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think so.

At first blush we lost the Doyle trade, until you consider the fact we traded Frank one year later for Andy Messersmith and I’ll take what Andy gave us in 73/74/75 over a career of Doyle.

One other tidbit.

Joe Moeller was 19 in 62 and Pete Richart was 22 and they both had to pitch because of injuries. In 1971 when we traded Doyle for Frank Robinson, Pete Richart was part of the deal and returned to the Dodgers. One could wonder if they had used Richart more then Moeller in 1962 if we’d have another World Championship banner.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Richert had the badass MLB debut when he struck out the first six hitters he faced.

That came up in 2009 when George Sherrill struck out three batters in his first inning as a Dodger.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Every thinks the Dodgers won the Osteen for Howard trade but hey forget we also gave the Senators Richert. I think the team would have been better with Howard and Richert then just Osteen. Richart was pretty bad ass in 65 and man the team could have used Howards offense in 66.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Joe Carter was traded for some reasonably big names in his career — Rick Sutcliffe, Sandy Alomar, Carlos Baerga, Fred McGriff, Tony Fernandez…

Rick Wise was traded for Steve Carlton, Reggie Smith and Dennis Eckersley at different times.

Jimmy Ring was involved in trades that also included HoFers Rogers Hornsby, Frankie Frisch, and Eppa Rixey.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 6, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

The White Sox hired Robin Ventura to be their new manager.

Start your Nolan Ryan headlock/noogie jokes!

by fbihop on Oct 6, 2011 1:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Old friend manager link?

by keithc13 on Oct 6, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Statement from White Sox:

“I wanted someone who met very specific criteria centered around his leadership abilities,” White Sox general manager Kenny Williams said in a statement. “Robin Ventura was that man.” The story comes as a surprise, but Ventura played 10 of his 16 major league seasons under Pale Hose owner Jerry Reinsdorf and that relationship has clearly remained healthy. Ventura will be replacing Ozzie Guillen, another high profile player-to-turned coach who recently inked a four-year contract with the Marlins.
Via Rotoworld.

Everyone on Twitter is basically saying: “OMG WTF BBQ!?”

by fbihop on Oct 6, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks bro.

I need to check out twitter today to see if soyboquense put any cool shit out today.

by keithc13 on Oct 6, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Smell like a puppet.

by kinbote on Oct 6, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

wow really?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 6, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I always liked him as a Dodger. Doesn’t he hold some great college record?

by kinbote on Oct 6, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hitting streak, me thinks

by keithc13 on Oct 6, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

that one kid almost broke it.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 6, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

In our day, the Guinness Book of World Records was very thorough.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve thought about spending $9.99 and ordering the Kindle version. Figure the novelty of it would wear off pretty quickly though.

by VegasBlues on Oct 6, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Be sure to make sure they have the picture of the two fat dudes on bikes.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

There's only so much

Chang and Eng you can take

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 6, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Long fingernail guy and hundred-cigarettes-in-his-mouth guy were memorable.

by kinbote on Oct 6, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

and African neck ladies and tallest dude ever

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

and dinner plate in the lower lip guy

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 6, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes!

and for baseball, Joel Youngblood and Ernie Shore were introduced to me through the GBOWR

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oeschger/Cadore also.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 6, 2011 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

it would wear off

after about .12 worth

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 6, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

it is only good bathroom material

by delias man on Oct 6, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

There’s a Guinness World records tourist attraction on Fisherman’s Wharf in San Francisco. The kind you pay $10 or so and go inside and see some displays about different kinds of Guinness Book of World Records stuff. I went there a long time ago with a friend of mine when we were probably something like 13 years old (his family invited me on a trip up there). The friend and I went inside and they had this exhbit that had a recording of the worlds loudest snore. Then they had this big ear you could snore into and see how close you could come to the record. We ended up screaming as loud as we could in to it, which of course got the attention of many others who were in the place. Even screaming we couldn’t come close to the record, so we thought it was bogus. Any who, I recently told my 7 daughter about this cool place and then we ended up in SF a few weeks ago on our cruise and the place was still there and I could tell her that that is the place where daddy screamed into the ear to try to break the record for the worlds loudest snore. /FullCircle

by Xeifrank on Oct 6, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d love to hear that snore

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember that place

in the 70’s, but nobody wanted to spend the money on it

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 6, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good player

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

it was fun

watching him hit grand slams

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

First thing I think of with Ventura is the grand slam that was a single.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 6, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

That makes me wonder

How many single hits have their own wikipedia page?

The Grand Slam Single does.
Kirk Gibson’s home run.
Edgar Martinez’s double in the 11th inning of Game 5 of the ’95 ALDS (“The Double”).
Bobby Thomson.

Any others you can think of?

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 6, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope and Nope.

No on Bucky Dent, too.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 6, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Deep to left…”

I always loved the beginning to that call.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have never heard Edgar’s hit called “The Double.”

But man that was a great end to a game.

Only playoff series of Don Mattingly’s career.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

One more at least

Babe Ruth’s called shot.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 6, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Eugenio Velez had gotten a hit in 2011 there would have been a Wiki page about it

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 6, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not sure if there are any others. Trying to think of famous hits. Maz, maybe?

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 6, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

was just thinking that

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 6, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maz?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

No solo page for Maz.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 6, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not a hit, but The Catch has its own page.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 6, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tiger Woods’ golf club to his Buick SUV on Thanksgiving night 2009?

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Called Shot?

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 6, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Noted above, yes.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 6, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck!

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 6, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Goddamit Marty quit wasting our time

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's the best part! :)

A stunning feel in SLO county may not translate to Chicago…. But I wish him success. It. could be The Rookie II!

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Oct 6, 2011 3:50 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Grand Slam Single?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Look it up, young man.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 6, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck!

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

time waster!

no biscuit

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 6, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know it’s all about the team and all, but I would’ve been seriously pissed if I were Ventura in that situation. Messin’ with my money.

by kinbote on Oct 6, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

In 1946, suck it Red Sox

The hit was by Harry Walker, but the play was better known as Slaughter’s Mad Dash.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is hard to believe that Johnny Pesky was truly a beloved figure in Boston. He shoulda had Slaughter, well, slaughtered.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 6, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also amazing that a man with 17 career home runs, including all of six at Fenway Park, could have the right field foul pole named Pesky’s Pole.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

He had to have hit an important home run off the pole for that to be the case wouldn’t he have?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

The story surrounding it seems to be pure fiction. Per Wiki:

According to Pesky, former teammate and Sox broadcaster Mel Parnell named the pole after Pesky won a game for Parnell in 1948 with a home run down the short right field line, just around the pole. However, Pesky hit just one home run in a game pitched by Parnell, a two-run shot in the first inning of a game against Detroit played on June 11, 1950. The game was eventually won by the visiting Tigers in the 14th inning on a three-run shot by Tigers right fielder Vic Wertz and Parnell earned a no-decision that day.1

Pesky was a slap hitter who hit just 17 home runs in his career (6 at Fenway Park).2 It’s not known how many of these six actually landed near the pole.

The term, though it had been in use since the 1950s, became far more common when Parnell became a Red Sox broadcaster in 1965.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Neyer wrote a book about players and their memories and how often what they remembered never happened.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Part of his “Big Book of ….” series. I liked that one.

There was a good tone to the book, like he wasn’t just out to say “ha ha, this old guy was wrong.” Neyer enjoys a good baseball yarn, and it read more as an inquisitive work to me.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ya, Delias Man was telling me about it. Apparently they investigate a triple play Lasorda claims happened in the minors, which they find likely did happen.

With Lasorda, you figure there might have been some misremembering going on.

by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

he was like one inning off and one other minor thing, but really close. I want the story of how far that cat flew.

by delias man on Oct 6, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Merkle's boner?

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 6, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

The update - single plays in wikipedia

Merkle’s Boner
The Called Shot
The Homer in the Gloamin’
Slaughter’s Mad Dash
The Shot Heard ’Round the World
The Catch
Kirk Gibson
The Double
The Grand Slam Single

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 6, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sadly, Jake Taylor’s bunt single does not have its own page

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

There’s only one The Play though.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 6, 2011 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did we do Joe Carter’s WS walk-off yet?

by kinbote on Oct 6, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

From tim brown (this is cool)

“@TBrownYahoo: Friend of Ventura’s says Ventura was assisting the Arroyo Grande (Ca.) HS baseball team past couple years, has “Stunning feel for game.”"

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Oct 6, 2011 2:08 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

this made me laugh

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you can manage the San Louis Obispo high school baseball game, you can manage anywhere.

by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Doesn’t the White Sox have to interview at least one minority candidate, or is Robin Ventura just an obscure Latin name?

by Tripon on Oct 6, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kenny Williams gave himself an exception

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

they just had a minority manager forever. they get a free pass

by delias man on Oct 6, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

What kind of crazy world

would it be if Ozzie were in the majority

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 6, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

there would be a lot of fist fights.

by delias man on Oct 6, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

has he been a coach in any capacity?

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 6, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha! Nolan Ryan is trending on Twitter. Pretty much only because of Robin Ventura.

by fbihop on Oct 6, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aroldis Chapman working towards becoming a starter again.

Aroldis Chapman is about to begin the transition back to being a starter. Chapman will go to the Instructional League in Goodyear in a week or so. After building his pitch count, he’ll go to Puerto Rico to pitch in Winter Ball.

by fbihop on Oct 6, 2011 2:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Good!

I hate to see guys like he and Feliz as relievers when they could be good starters. I wonder how Papelbon would have been as a starter.

by Ivdown on Oct 6, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nobody would have heard of him…aka the world would be a better place.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’re just asking for Ned to sign him now!

by kinbote on Oct 6, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

LB state just got a commit for a PG from James Loney’s HS

by delias man on Oct 6, 2011 2:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Can only make his free throws on road games?

by Xeifrank on Oct 6, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Clearly, the popcorn part of the chicken is the part you put in tomato soup.

Duh.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

ha ha

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then what's

the goldfish part of the chicken?

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 6, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

True story: I once breaded chicken in ground Cheez-Its.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bits pulled from the breast. Might be the nipple.

by Grimjack on Oct 6, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s gross

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 6, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fast food companies arguing over who has the closest thing to real meat should mean it’s time to start torching some KFCs.

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by regfairfield on Oct 6, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does anyone else remember Ismael Valdes having a near perfect game?

He threw a one-hitter with no walks against the Pirates at Dodger Stadium on June 27, 1998. Valdes retired the first 21 batters of the game before Kevin Young opened the eighth inning with a single.

He only allowed two fly balls to the outfield.

I have literally no recollection of this game.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 3:11 PM PDT reply actions  

You had given up on the season already. After winning that game, the Dodgers were 13.5 out of first place. On June 27!

And they were in third place!

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 6, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

You can’t expect to keep up with a team lead by Greg Vaughn.

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by regfairfield on Oct 6, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Until I read Kevin Young I had no memory.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I want to hire a personal chef

like Matt Kemp — @TheChefAlisa — so she could make this for lunch:

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 3:15 PM PDT reply actions  

I want fries with that

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 6, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

buffalo wings and a broccoli salad?

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

In hoity toity chef land

it is “Organic Chicken Wings & Kale”

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I looks like there may be some hummus hiding under the Kale.

by Grimjack on Oct 6, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does Bride know about this?

oh, hummus

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 6, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mindy

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I rec’d both

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

must’ve been some party his friends had while he was out of town.

by Xeifrank on Oct 6, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

For a minute I thought I’d already done this series because I’ve had a bunch of Déjà vu since I started. Luckily I haven’t but now I’m wondering if Eric already did?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 3:29 PM PDT reply actions  

I don’t remember it.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is it wrong that I immediately thought of the strip club when you said Déjà vu? :)

by silverwidow on Oct 6, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 6, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Only because you should have thought of Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young first.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 6, 2011 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tigers making it very clear that they won’t use Verlander tonight. He completed between starts bullpen session already.

Jim Leyland.

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by regfairfield on Oct 6, 2011 3:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Puzzling

Jim is going to smoke a pack when Valverde blows his first save of the year and he has Verlander on the bench. It will be like a 1962 Don Drysdale / Walter Alston deal.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

If it comes down to it and the reason they lose is Valverde blew the first save of the year, there’s really nothing you could have done. That’s your horse, if he dies, he dies.

by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

bullshit

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

So you're saying

Bottom of the 9th, 2-1 lead, you would have Verlander pitch, not your closer?

So, circa 2009, you would have pitched Kershaw (okay, assume its Kershaw of 2011) in the 9th inning of a game your winning, instead of Broxton?

by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope

What I’m saying is that after Fister gives me six good innings and I have a lead I’m giving the ball to Verlander for the seventh and eighth and Valverde for the ninth. The setup men have not looked very effective against the Yankee lineup, the New Mexico kid who was so good is worrisome. They will need to get through the 7th and 8th and I’d rather have the best pitcher in baseball do it for me then throw a frigging bullpen session.

And yes Valverde could indeed blow this game but then I wouldn’t care because they did they best they could do. They can’t go half ass tonight, they need to go full ass. JMO

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

What if you’re the manager and Verlander told you that his velocity tends to be down a little between starts or that he is nursing some kind of ailment?

by Xeifrank on Oct 6, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okay

As a fan all I can go by is that Verlander said he could pitch. Don Drysdale said he could and wasn’t lying about it so I don’t know why Verlander would be.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

And if Orel had not been so instrumental in the Dodgers moving on in 88 I might have a different opinion. Or that Randy Johnson hack.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then again, Verlander could crap the bed like Tim Lincecum and Kevin Brown.

I liked both moves at the time FWIW. Still do.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure he could, but why not give yourself the option to use him. Hell just use him as a bluff.

There’s nothing to gain by throwing him pre game.

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by regfairfield on Oct 6, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am pro-using Verlander. No question.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Certainly don’t see anything to gain by letting the Yankee’s know he’s not available. But I’m sure Leyland knows more about managing in his gravity ravaged cheeks then I do.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I was thinking that too

But its not like the NL where you have to chart out all your pinch hitting moves when hitting for a pitcher. Having Verlander sit in the bullpen might make you consider a few things, but in the AL, they just let their players hit all day anyway.

by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

/Puts best hitters entirely in the bottom half of the lineup.

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by regfairfield on Oct 6, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

This

I can understand him not using him. I don’t understand letting the Yankees know.

by VegasBlues on Oct 6, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rec'd for
gravity ravaged cheeks


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 6, 2011 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

“They got the ball to Jose Valverde, what else could they do” – Something that will be said a lot without a hint of irony.

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by regfairfield on Oct 6, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't care if it costs us a trip to the next round

I’m not fucking usin him. Who’s got a cigarette?

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 6, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I mean I’d like to believe that this isn’t because Verlander said he wanted to pitch tonight and Leyland was waving his dick around to show him who’s boss, but this is totally because Verlander said he wanted to pitch tonight and Leyland was waving his dick around to show him who’s boss.

Man I really hope Brad Penny pitches tonight.

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by regfairfield on Oct 6, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

If so that would mean one of two things.
1. Tigers have a ten run lead
2. Yankee’s have a ten run lead

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brad Penny can’t hold that kind of lead.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 6, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

He can’t stand the heat……

by Grimjack on Oct 6, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Question for the peeps

If I start a podcast this offseason, what features would you like to see on the podcast?

Assume it is weekly.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 3:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Goldfish & popcorn

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 6, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

weekly food segment. Got it. Might need to interview Silverwidow

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I get nervous whenever I’ve been on the air. But it sounds fun, I must say.

by silverwidow on Oct 6, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

TV Commercial Reviews

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Compare and contrast Harry Potter with Star Wars

by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Weekly bashing of Joss Whedon. Got it.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

as long as he doesn’t spend an hour analyzing Phil’s fantasy baseball team.

by Xeifrank on Oct 6, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’ll have me and Josie on so we can discuss why bowl games own.

by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

and Josie can talk about all the times Cal has been to the Rose Bowl

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

what a podcast?

Is that a fancy term for recording your voice on your PC?

by Joey Joe on Oct 6, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

talking

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

no

YOU are!

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who is Jess?

/why did I ask?

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm assuming

Jess from Saved By the Bell

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

OMG

Jess, Rory’s girlfriend on the third season of the Gilmore Girls! He was all standoffish, monosylabic, total bad boy, so exactly the kind of guy a girl wants at around that age. But he might be bad news because that’s the kind of guy that got Lorelai pregnant with Rory when she was just 16!

by Josie Becker on Oct 6, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow, I thought you were talking about the New Girl not the Hero.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes, the guy who played Jess went on to have a starring role in Heroes : )

by Josie Becker on Oct 6, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I never made the connection they where the same dude

I do this a lot.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

First thing we do now when we see a familiar face is google it to find out why we have seen them before. Last night I flipped on homeland and could not figure out where I’d seen the wife.
FIREFLY

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

We said at the same time “shes the whore”

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Awful, awful show

But Citizen Kane compared to Terra Nova

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 6, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Terra Nova makes more sense

when I found out they went to a different dimension instead of travelling back in time. I still have no plan to watch it.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do the same thing

but a lot of times it just never occurs to me that I’ve seen them before, and then later its all like… wtf!

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m a bit OCD with this. If I look at someone and wonder where I have seen them before I have to hop on my computer and find out or it just bugs me until I remember.

by VegasBlues on Oct 6, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Peter!!!!

He’s my favorite character :)

by Ivdown on Oct 6, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

My favorite character was the one they totally forgot they had — the girl from New Orleans who could replicate anything she saw. She just disappeared, even though her grandma was Uhura.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 6, 2011 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

She was alright

I wasn’t a fan of the story. Her brother was a freakin idiot, lol.

by Ivdown on Oct 6, 2011 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Weekly segments

~ Why we hate the Giants
~ Mike Scioscia is too big for his britches because _______
~ Fuck You Ruiz

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 6, 2011 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I figure at least 10 minutes every single week would be devoted to listening to me watch Kirk Gibson’s home run.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

So it's gonna be

Waynes World

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 6, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

isn’t podcasting essentially the new Public Access TV?

by Josie Becker on Oct 6, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bullshit.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 6, 2011 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I want lots of NHL updates.

by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Russian accents. Got it.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

- Rosterbation + FA possibilities
- Prospects
- Dodgers history (less so)

those things mainly.

by Xeifrank on Oct 6, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

A serious answer

What is going on here?

(I agree with these things.)

by VegasBlues on Oct 6, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dodgers history (less so)

I love that you posted this in a thread dedicated to Dodger history.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

The fact that it made my top three means I really enjoy it, just not as much as the other stuff. Beautiful, sexy and cute… one of the girls has to rank third.

by Xeifrank on Oct 6, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve never taken you as someone who cared much for prospects

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do, I just tend to let others do the heavy lifting and learn from them. I’d probably rather watch paint dry than the MLB draft, but I enjoy watching our players progress through the minors.

by Xeifrank on Oct 6, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

And at the end

- TV and Movie Talk (even less so, in fact, none)
/xeifrank ;)

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Oct 6, 2011 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fantasy Football segment.

by silverwidow on Oct 6, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d like a stat segment with a white board and lots of equations

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Might have to mount a microphone on the dry erase board to capture the squeaking of the markers.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d like the kid from Numbers as your sidekick writing and explaining them.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or the math wizard from that TV show.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or Mr. Wizard himself

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 6, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mr Peabody would be cool

Also Eric could travel back in time with him and explain to us famous baseball events.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now this I approve of

Films

In January 2011, DreamWorks Animation announced that a 3-D computer animated feature film Mr. Peabody & Sherman is in development which is set to be released on March 21, 2014.23 The feature is being directed by Rob Minkoff, who is famous for co-directing The Lion King for Disney. The main character Mr. Peabody will be voiced by Robert Downey, Jr.. The role of Sherman has not yet been cast

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Would I be going out on a limb

if I was to say that Dr Who was built off of Mr. Peadboy and way back machine?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are you saying it was a re-TARDIS?

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Probably, but, hey, Humma’s First Law (or is it Second?)

by fbihop on Oct 6, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

There is a TBLA

Commenter that pic reminds me of. But I will never say who.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 6, 2011 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

it did precede it by a few years

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

In January 2011 they had the precise release date of March 21, 2014, more than 3 years later, already set? Really? Does this happen regularly in the film world? Do they really stick to the release date?

by berkowit28 on Oct 6, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Humma’s area of expertize. I do know that whenever Marvel has announced a release date they have hit it as far as I can remember.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

The new Clooney/Gosling film The Ides of March really should have waited for a March 15 release.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or with appropriate adaptation from Julian to Gregorian calendar, just to complicate things.

by berkowit28 on Oct 6, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, happens all the time.

Movies change dates all the time, too.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 6, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

fuck you harry potter 7!

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

With animated films

I think they can do it because they will have already had the voice acting and storyboarding done for years, while they finish up the actual animation, which generally takes 3 years for dreamworks.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Weren’t they all math wizards?

by VegasBlues on Oct 6, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

As long as I get to pronounce the 3 in Numb3rs every single time I refer to him.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

The news, in rhyming verse.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 6, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Low Down?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d like nightly NBA game recaps…

by VegasBlues on Oct 6, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

It might be fun to see if you could get interviews with former players or current prospects. The more random, the better. Like Shawn Green probably will have “more important things to do,” but Jason Grabowski can’t pretend that he does.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 6, 2011 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interviews will definitely be a part of it.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Entertainment and Sports Programming Netowork
Yankee Entertainment and Sports Network
 
but then

New England Sports Network
Fox Sports Network

are we not supposed to be entertained watching Fox Sports?

by Josie Becker on Oct 6, 2011 4:17 PM PDT reply actions  

It means you aren’t gonna see Poker or Pro Graps on there.

Except all those times you did.

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by regfairfield on Oct 6, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

World’s Strongest Man Competition and the like. I’m with it now

by Josie Becker on Oct 6, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey don’t diss the WSM.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Oct 6, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow that was bigger than it was supposed to be

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by regfairfield on Oct 6, 2011 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Those wheel-less cars aren’t going to move themselves.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m just sad that I can’t find a GIF of Russell Crowe screaming, “Are you not entertained!?” anywhere.

The internet has failed me.

by fbihop on Oct 6, 2011 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes!! Closet TBLA fan. :)

I would fax him a beer if it were possible.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s so lonely, he could cry

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, hey, that misquote was of his talented dad, not him.

by fbihop on Oct 6, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

His Dad would have kicked him in the nutts

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Except he'd be hammered

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 6, 2011 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

MNF saw the light

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 6, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

They got this.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 6, 2011 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Deciding games are pretty fun

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 4:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Are you going to make a Game Five Thread?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wasn’t really thinking about it. Didn’t have too many comments last night.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

GAME FIVE

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

OK, I’ll make one.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

that’s because I was in the Nard and fbihop was fighting with his neighbors.

by Xeifrank on Oct 6, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

More like fuming

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually I went to Geeks Who Drink last night (weekly pub quiz). Our team came in 9th place.

Our team was one of eight teams to have a name that referenced Steve Jobs.

by fbihop on Oct 6, 2011 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Make it a

Tigers Win Thread
or
Yankees Pre-Fishing Thread
or
something wity along those lines.

by Xeifrank on Oct 6, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Russell Martin time to go back to the gym thread

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 6, 2011 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

BTW

I wasn’t commenting when watching the last Yankees/Tigers game, but Martin was working his ass off when blocking those hard curve balls from Burnett. Quite a difference from the lazy back-handing he used to do with CK and Billingsley.

by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

It will be curious what they do with him with three talented minor league catchers behind him. Sure one might be a DH, but Arod might not be far from being a permanent DH with the way he’s been hurt lately.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seeing

Worthy play, he was a unique low post talent with a great first step.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 6, 2011 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Was even better on the court, too.

by fbihop on Oct 6, 2011 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

He was my least favorite of all the great lakers. It might have had something to do with how poor the team did when he was the last one standing.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Funny

I remember in 1989 how it was Detroit vs Worthy at the end, he never gave in, I admired that.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 6, 2011 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

He knew how to deal with being outnumbered. Proved it again in Houston the following year.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Oct 6, 2011 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gilmore

Girls was discussed and I missed it.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 6, 2011 4:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Just Jess:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rory

Alexis Biedel turned 30 in September

by bhsportsguy on Oct 6, 2011 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Her mom was and will always be hotter.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

She is the spunky girl next door.

by Grimjack on Oct 6, 2011 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

But her mom was hotter, and more of a bitch if you can believe some of the stories that I have heard from some of the extras that I knew 5 years ago.

by Grimjack on Oct 6, 2011 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

real mom or tv show mom

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Oct 6, 2011 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, this on day we were filming the Greg Behrendt show and we were sitting around gossiping……………….

by Grimjack on Oct 6, 2011 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

You just weren’t that into her?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 6, 2011 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

True

Certainly more in my age group.

by bhsportsguy on Oct 6, 2011 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Parenthood is a very good show.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Oct 6, 2011 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

BoingBoing.net

has an interesting Jobs tribute

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Oct 6, 2011 4:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Loved that.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Oct 6, 2011 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

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