Best 19 and 20 year old seasons by Los Angeles Dodger Pitcher

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Yesterday we looked at the best 19 and 20 year old season for a position player and Adrian Beltre was clearly the winner. Today we are going to look at the pitchers. Joe Moeller wasn't very good but he was the only 19 year old to qualify and he did have some interesting numbers so we should give him his credit. On the other hand the 20 year old season by Fernando was one for the ages, and stuff that legends are made of. If you were lucky enough to be cognizant in 1981 you enjoyed one of the greatest Dodger seasons ever, not just for the team but for the individual performance by Fernando. I'm not here to rank his season against the best seasons ever by a Dodger pitcher but Fernando Valenzuela was clearly the best 20 year old the Dodgers ever had, and quite possibly the greatest 20 year old anyone has ever seen this side of Bob Feller and Dwight Gooden. Couldn't help myself, I had to peak, using ERA+ as a guide it was the fourth best 20 year old season since the Dodgers moved west. Based on OPS against, I'd rank him 2nd.
Rk Player ERA+ Year Age Tm GS CG SHO W L W-L% IP H ER BB SO ERA OPS 1 Dwight Gooden 229 1985 20 NYM 35 16 8 24 4 .857 276.2 198 47 69 268 1.53 .524 2 Dennis Eckersley 144 1975 20 CLE 24 6 2 13 7 .650 186.2 147 54 90 152 2.60 .631 3 Dave Rozema 139 1977 20 DET 28 16 1 15 7 .682 218.1 222 75 34 92 3.09 .700 4 Fernando Valenzuela 135 1981 20 LAD 25 11 8 13 7 .650 192.1 140 53 61 180 2.48 .549 5 Rick Ankiel 134 2000 20 STL 30 0 0 11 7 .611 175.0 137 68 90 194 3.50 .685
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Dodger 19 and 20 year old seasons with at least 10 starts or 30 games.
Rk Player WAR GS Year Age G CG SHO W L SV IP H ER BB SO ERA ERA+ OPS OPS+ 1 Fernando Valenzuela 5.4 25 1981 20 25 11 8 13 7 0 192.1 140 53 61 180 2.48 135 .549 2 Clayton Kershaw 1.2 21 2008 20 22 0 0 5 5 0 107.2 109 51 52 100 4.26 98 .756 3 Doyle Alexander -0.5 12 1971 20 17 4 0 6 6 0 92.1 105 39 18 30 3.80 85 .689 4 Joe Moeller -1.1 15 1962 19 19 1 0 6 5 1 85.2 87 50 58 46 5.25 69 .777
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Tidbits:
Fernando led the league in starts with only 25 because of the strike shortened season. Led the league in CG, Shutouts, Innings Pitched, and Strikeouts at the age of 20 garnering the Cy Young, ROY, and placing fifth in the MVP voting. He also threw in a Silver Slugger award to cap off the greatest 20 year old season in LA Dodger History. How did he manage to win all those awards?
- Game 1 - Have to start at the beginning, opening day shutout as he replaced the injured Jerry Ruess. He only struck out five, looked like a fluky start to be sure.
- Game 2 - Complete game, one earned run, 10 K's
- Game 3 - Complete game shutout, 10 K's
- Game 4 - Complete game shutout, 11 K's
- Game 5 - Complete game shutout, seven hits, four walks, seven K's
- That makes four his first five major leagues starts were four shutouts, he wasn't done yet
- Game 6 - Complete game, gave up one earned run, no walks, seven K's
- Game 7 - Complete game shutout, seven hits, five walks, 11 K's
- Game 8 - Complete game, three hitter, gave up two earned runs for the first time in his career.
- So let's add that up. Eight straight complete games to start the year. Five of them were shutouts. He gave up a total of four runs in those seventy two innings. At the age of 20. In his first eight major league starts.
- He would only go 5 - 7 from that point on but what he did in the postseason would cement his legacy.
- He started Game One of the NLDS and matched HOF Nolan Ryan 1 - 1 for eight innings. Dave Stewart would lose the game in the ninth by giving up two runs.
- He started Game Four with the Dodgers down 2 games to 1 in a must win scenario and pitched the Dodgers to a 2 -1 victory going all nine innings and not giving up a run until the 9th. Houston scored once in the 9th but Tommy left Fernando in to finish up the game with the tying run on base.
- Editor Note - Jerry Reuss would throw a shutout in gave five as the Dodgers won 3 games in a row after being down two games to advance to the NLCS. Reuss beat Nolan Ryan.
- After losing Game Two of the NLCS, Fernando was called upon to pitch the deciding game. The series was tied 2 games to 2 and many consider this one of the greatest games in Dodger history. The 20 year old went 8 2/3 innings with Bob Welch getting the last out of the game after Fernando had put the tying and go a head runs on base via a walk. You had to watch this game to understand how big a game it was. The Expos had scored in the first inning but would never score again. The Dodgers were headed to NY.
- Because Fernando had pitched the last game of the NLCS he was not able to pitch in the World Series until game three. The Dodgers had lost both games in NY and were down 2 - 0. Once again Fernando put the team on his back and pitched a complete game, but it was not easy. The Yankees scored twice in the second and third negating a three run first inning by the Dodgers. Headed into the bottom of the 3rd the Dodgers were down 4 - 3 and it looked like the hated Yankees would sweep us. Fernando would not let the Yankees score again. The Dodger hitters took care of the rest as they scored two in the fifth. Once again Fernando shook hands with Scoscia as the Dodgers won their first game of the series. They would not lose again.
Their is a very real reason why Fernando is the most beloved Dodger alive today. You simply can't make up what he did in 1981.
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Joe Moeller was the best 19 year old pitcher we have had but he wasn't very good. You could also point your finger at Moeller as a big reason why the Dodgers did not advance to the World Series in 1962. They ended the season tied with Giants and lost a playoff series. The 19 year old Moeller was forced to make 15 starts, which was one start too many. He had some solid games but in a period in June he was waxed five straight times. The lowlight of his season had to be June 29th, 1962 when the awful Mets pasted him for four runs in the first. He walked four of the first five hitters he faced. Ron Perranoski replaced him and did him no favors by walking three of the four hitters he faced. Perry was replaced by Phil Ortega who finally got the last out of the inning. The Dodgers ended up walking seven hitters that inning. Moeller's best game had to be April 23rd, a complete game 5 - 2 victory over a loaded Milwaukee Bravse team in front of all of 7600 fans. I suspect Dodger fans expected big things from Moeller after seeing him make 15 starts as a 19 year old but it was not to be. He would have some success in 1964 but was out of baseball by the age of 28 even though in his last three years his ERA was never higher then 3.92.
Doyle Alexander was drafted in the ninth round of the legendary 1968 draft as an 18 year old and made his debut on June 26th, 1971. Doyle would go onto pitch 19 seasons and be involved in one of the more interesting trades in the history of baseball, but in 1971 he was a Dodger. He got off to a great start by pitching eight innings in his first game as the Dodgers beat the Padres 4 - 3. Doyle followed that up with a complete game victory 9 -2 for his first major league win. He gave up 12 hits in those nine innings and struck out only four. If you take a look at his game logs you will notice that the strikeout was not really in his repertoire. Doyle would throw three complete games in August, winning all three games, while only giving up one run in each game. For a twenty year old he sure seemed to know how to pitch. Yet the Dodgers said good bye to Doyle and traded him during the off season for a HOF. I can remember being sad to see the young pitcher go, but Frank Robinson was one of my favorite players so I was not very upset. Frank Robinson was coming to town.
December 2, 1971: Traded by the Los Angeles Dodgers with Bob O'Brien, Sergio Robles and Royle Stillman to the Baltimore Orioles for Pete Richert and Frank Robinson
Clayton Kershaw surprised many by forcing his way into the rotation at the age of 20 but it was no surprise that he was solid in his debut season. While Kershaw was showing Vin Scully Uncle Charley in the spring and dominating the men in AA, my niece was in Mexico for a college class and one of her classmates had been a high school classmate of Clayton's so she had asked me about him. I was more then happy to let her know that Mr. Kershaw was the greatest thing since sliced bread and hopefully would be pitching for us soon. Little did we know that a few weeks later he'd be making his debut and as luck would have it, Kalia was staying with us in a brief stopover in Los Angeles before heading home. As with the other 127,000 plus Dodger fans who watched Clayton make his debut, we fell in love with him and have never stopped. Clayton may not be the best 20 year old in this series but I have a feeling he is going to find himself at the top of some future ones. It will be interesting to see who wins a few of the battles between Fernando and Clayton from age 21 - 23.
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Have to say, I’d have traded Goldschmidt for Konerko.
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I’d only do that trade if my team was older and built more for winning now. That can’t be how they are thinking though. With the pitching they have in the minors my guess is they are building for the future.
flags fly forever
But I completely get what you’re saying, it’s hard to trade the future away when you’re built for that, but 94 or 95 wins means you’ve gotta go for now too.
Flags fly only slightly more often than pigs
They flap or they hang mostly. If they do fly its because someone fucked up and didn’t tie it down.
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
not me
Dont think the marginal improvement for the Dbax (already a good hitting team) is worth giving up that any cost controlled years of Goldy.
Maybe if Goldschmidt was the centerpiece for a trade that brings back a #1 starter..I’d consider it.
I wish I was cognizant enough of Fernando in 1981.
Factor in Valenzuela’s 10 relief appearances and 17 2/3 innings in 1980 with only two unearned runs allowed, and after those eight starts in 1981 Fernando had pitched 89 2/3 innings and had a 0.40 ERA.
What a force of nature.
Also, even after those eight complete games to start his rookie season, Fernando still averaged over seven innings per start over his final 17 starts. 7.07 during those 17 starts, 7.69 on the season. As a 20-year old.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
His Silver Slugger Award seems unjustified:)
Rk Player H Year Age BA OBP SLG OPS Pos
1 Adrian Beltre 148 1999 20 .275 .352 .428 .780 *5
2 Derrell Griffith 69 1964 20 .290 .307 .424 .732 59/7
3 Ron Fairly 58 1959 20 .238 .324 .344 .668 *98/7
4 Bill Russell 48 1969 20 .226 .301 .344 .645 *98/7
5 Willie Davis 28 1960 20 .318 .348 .477 .825 *8
6 Fernando Valenzuela 16 1981 20 .250 .262 .281 .543 *1
7 Bill Buckner 13 1970 20 .191 .225 .265 .490 *7/39
8 Roger Cedeno 10 1995 20 .238 .283 .286 .568 78/9
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but he was one of the best 20 year old hitters we have ever had.
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That triple must have left an indelible mark :)
by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Unlike your triple he really was safe
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
i had one triple in LL. I was about 14
the guy that played CF on the other team i was friends with. Manuel Monge. He had a cannon, so we called him Mongesi. He played shallow, i got lucky and hit it over him, he had a great throw from the wall, I was dead at third but the 3B dropped it.
So you hit a double.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
If that counts as a triple
I hit an inside the park home run when I was 8.
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So you were Danny Almonte?
Age limit is 12
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
I just had a funny thought ( for me anyway) what if Delias never knew he was a “special exception” until now?
We called it Babe Ruth.
For Us
Little League 10 – 12
Babe Ruth 13 – 15
Connie Mark or Senior Babe Ruth 16 – 18
With the best players playing American Legion Ball
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In Arcadia
LL 9 – 12
Pony League 13 – 14
Babe Ruth/Connie Mack/High School > 14
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
that would be shocking
i think for us after LL it was Juniors then Seniors but it was still through the local LL
who are those kids that play AYSO
all the way to Division One? Get on the high school team or give up losers.
Div 2 was intense
teams from SP PV and torrance played in same league. The PV kids were the punching bags of the league.
Like every non baseball sport
I gave up on soccer after 3 years
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I only played baseball, and sucked at it
My older bro was good at both baseball and hockey. My younger bro was really good as basketball.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 6, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I hit ball hard
but run slow and lack dexterity. Couildn’t catch a fly ball to save my life.
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My Dad told me
he had the exact opposite problem. He couldn’t hit a lick, but was the only one on his team who could field.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 6, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
My uncle was just like that
He would have been like Darin Erstad or something. 30 UZR in 1999 with a .300 wOBA.
We know
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
so
you were Manny
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 6, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
they put me in left at the softball game
somehow they let me play 3rd in LL, but when they got sick of seeing me suck there they got to watch me suck in LF. I did make a sweet play once cutting across the diamond on a slow high chopper heading towards the SS, but thats probably my only defensive highlight.
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My younger bro was really good as basketball.
so he was dribbled a lot?
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har har
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 6, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Haha
I can relate to Fernando since he and I both competed on the field at Palm Springs Angels Stadium
by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
That 1981 NLCS Game 5 was on MLB Network at some point in the last year or so, and I finally watched it. Gotta love a game to decide the pennant winner on a Monday afternoon.
Nice pull
Some haphazard scheduling. I never knew that.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I was in school. The Monday HR was during lunch and we had a TV in one of the classrooms. Then the bell rang and we went to our classes. Our teacher was strict but the class across the hall had the game on during class. Dodger got in trouble and you could hear the moaning and cheering. Teacher got pissed at me for trying to wave down the other class about what had happened.
I remember watching that game, I have no idea where, I was lucky enough to be in my last year of college at the time so I’m sure I watched every single postseason game. By the time we got to play the Yankee’s my nerves were already shot. The Houston series drained me.
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Yankees lineup
Jeter SS
Granderson CF
Cano 2B
Rodriguez 3B
Teixeira 1B
Swisher RF
Posada DH
Martin C
Gardner LF
No more Hank 2 on MNF any more. He claims it was his call, rambles some more.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
From Oct 1981 - June 1982 - Greatest period in the history of LA Sports?
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Tiebreaker here (since both have Lakers and Dodgers titles) is the Kings trading for Wayne Gretzky in August 1988.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Have to stay with mine since the 81 was my favorite Dodger championship and 82 was my favorite Laker Championship.
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1982 gets props since that year had the only acceptable “Beat LA” chant
by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
This is why I can’t root for the Diamondbacks (or Padres or Rockies.) I can’t cheer for any fanbase that chants that absurd saying.
by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
i wish you would go to a game at chase.
you would hate them so much more. the rattle, mike and vanessa, the indoors. Yuck.
I don't get all the venom towards Beat LA
who cares? Whats so damn absurd about it?
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people complaing about it
is almost as dumb as people complaining about people complaining about it.
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as long as they are done in rythm
that rarely happens though
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it was pretty cool watching it
during the WBC
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 6, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Having seen Japan-Korea at Dodger Stadium, I can verify the falseness of this statement. The Korean baseball fans are probably the most fun fans of anything I have ever been around.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
How does it not make sense?
they want to beat LA, so they say “beat la”. Makes sense.
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If you’re down big in the 9th inning, it’s pretty pathetic. Im pretty sure the Dbacks fans did that in the last series of the year.
I also think it’s better to build up your team rather than trying to get something in about the other team. At Kershaw’s last start there were sooooo many idiots sitting near me just screaming giants suck, fuck the giants, all that. I told them when not chant Let’s Go Dodgers, Let’s go (whoever is batting), or something else like that.
I think it makes the fanbase look worse when they chant things about the other team. It doesn’t matter in the scheme of things but that’s how I feel about it.
Its pathetic to want to win
and to cheer on your team. Got it. BEAT LA is nothing like “Giants Suck” IMHO. Its not demeaning in any way.
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I'll amend mine
March 1988 to October 1988.
Since that also includes the birth of Clayton Kershaw. BOOM
by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
and the Dodgers drafted and signed Mike Piazza, Pedro Martinez, Raul Mondesi, and Eric Karros
by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
1988 would also be when the Clippers won the lottery, and drafted Danny Manning, yes?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Up until the Elton Brand trade, that might be the greatest Clippers highlight ever.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Drafting a guy who blew out his knee’s is our highlight?
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Enough about Olowokandi Bo Kimble Darius Miles…
Serious question, who do Clipper fans consider the best Clipper ever?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Zach Randolph
In all seriousness, it has to be Brand with Griffin a playoff run away from catching him.
by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
So Brand makes up in his shorter tenure for the slightly-above-averageness of the likes of Manning, Ken Norman and Loy Vaught in longer stints?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Easy
you must have a strange memory regarding Manning.
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Best player on the best Clipper team ever. Also a transformational trade. Getting Brand had an immediate impact which built up to the playoff run. Sure, the playoff run only lasted one season (it should have lasted more) but it’s not like anybody else has more of a claim.
by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Brand was a Clipper for 7 seasons. That’s more than Manning and Norman and the same as Vaught.
by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
He would have been my pick too. Blake Griffin doesn’t have far to go to take that spot, just one extension and it’s his.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Not as a Clipper. His Clipper prime was 94-95 when I was 11 years old.
by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
stat wise Maggette was clearly better using WS
Brand
Corey
Vaught
Manning
Pike
Using PER average
Brand
Blake
Maggette is 6th but two of the guys head of him only played one year.
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Brand's first year in LAC he put up a 23.6 PER
His worst season (not counting the 8 game season he played after hurting the achilles) was 21.7. Those numbers are awesome.
by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Too bad. A true homegrown Clipper and the last remaining player from the playoff season.
Oh well.
by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought PER or WS would be kinder to him then I have been. Not to be
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Wins Produced (WP) hates him more than those two metrics do too.
Because he’s a tall guy who’s an average at best rebounder and is inefficient shooter. He’s got a jump shot, but tall guys should be grabbing rebounds and putting in put backs at a high clip.
by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Griffin needs more than one extension for the spot. Brand re-signed once too. My standards aren’t all that high, but winning a playoff series is a must before he’s better than EB.
by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
That will change to 2012-2013
When the Dodgers and Angels make the WS, Dodgers sweep, then the Lakers and Clippers play in the Western Conference Finals, and Lakers win then win the Finals, then USC goes undefeated and win the National Championship.
Totally happening
Everything makes perfect sense except for USC
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They are yesterdays news. They had a good run.
by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I would disagree, but with UCSD joining the SEC I’ll let it slide.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s actually exactly the program I was thinking of. Without the hookers for play scandals.
by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm amazed at how insanely great they were at the end of the 90s and start of the 00s
and how they faded out relatively quickly.
“Our problem is that we have a lot of money, right? So maybe, our goal should be to spend it.”
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“What is happening in New York? Spending all that money is miraculously working out!!”
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 6, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
No, the best part is the top hat and cane drawn next to Robinson Cano’s name.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 6, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
At the 0:44 mark. Top hat, cane, and bow tie.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 6, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
The most important thing you'll read all day
20th-Fox has acquired the rights to Mr. Ed, plans to make movie
That’s the most important thing I read all week.
by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Are you nostalgic for the days when channels were so limited you’d watch a show about a talking horse? Well have we got something for you!
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
now we have CG!!
none of this peanut butter bullshit!!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 6, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
just the rights have been optioned so far, we’re still a few years away from this hitting the screen
They are waiting for everyone
who remembered the original series to die first?
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Nolander was never a child.
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This would work if I did not know for a fact you younguns spend way to much time watching bad television that was made in the 60’s.
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Who could resist?
1) IT WAS A FUCKIN HORSE
2) IT COULD FUCKIN TALK
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 6, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Definitely wasn’t cable. Remember watching it at my grandmother’s apartment and she didn’t have cable. I’m thinking Fox after a Dodger game or something. Like how they run I love lucy now.
by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I haven't done that since I was a kid
I have a hard time watching anything even from the mid to late 90s now. Friends and Seinfeld as big exceptions
The people I work with don’t know what “Silver Spoons” is.
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Oh, man, your typo is inspired. That should be an SNL sketch, a rock star whose memory is completely addled by drugs, and his name is John Forgety.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 6, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
In your industry
weren’t they all born with one?
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
You aren’t kidding.
When I bought my last car, I splurged a little bit. I bought a Honda CRV with leather seats and the satellite navigation. I was excited to have such a fancy car. My parents never had a car as nice as that car.
It is easily, and without question, the shabbiest car belonging to anybody in my department, and that includes the assistants.
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The Warner lot
is where I saw my first Nissan Leaf. And there were two side-by-side
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Learning Venn Diagrams takes all the joy away of watching talking horses.
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I learned ven diagrams
the same day I made a turlte out of stones and glue. Still got that turtle somewhere.
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safest city in america
according to businessinsider. 0 murders per 1000
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You must live somewhere very cosmopolitan, right?
by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I know, I remember from when we met at the TBLA night :)
by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
It is a man’s god-given right to take the piss out of Orange County, no matter where else he lives.
Kinbote could live in Northern Idaho and he could still make fun of Irvine.
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I also went to college there for three years and my grandparents lived in Irvine for their retirement years. Right across from the golf course :)
Its an ok course
you would expect them to take better care of the grass with it being in irvine, but alas.
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Then why do you have the Vegas Blues?
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why do you think he had to move to idaho?
it certainly couldn’t have been by choice
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Lived in Vegas from 12 to 25. This is a screen name I have used on Dodger blogs and other sports forums (first was back on Sandbox fantasy sports back in 99 or so) for quite some time.
When my health started deteriorating 5 years or so ago I ended up moving up here to Idaho to live with family since I couldn’t work anymore.
Gotta worst than Jerry Sands in terms of Prospect status
Kevin_Goldstein
Rockies take Greg Reynolds off 40-man. Nice job with the 2 pick there. Passed on Longoria.
2005: Upton, Tulo, Braun, Zimmerman, Gordon, Ellsbury, McCutchen, Garza, Bucholz, Bruce, Rasmus, Romero, Maybin
We got Luke Hochevar.
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We got Derek Lowe!
^ Pick from Los Angeles Dodgers as compensation for signing of free agent Derek Lowe
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I figured it would be between this and 06
Longoria, Kershaw, Lincecum, Morrow, Stubbs, Scherzer, Snider, Kennedy, Bard, (One Year Wonder Rookie of the Year) Coghlan.
Yeah, 2005 is definitely better. Players like Drabek, Conger, Colvin will have to kick some major ass for 06 to come anywhere near.
They then went and got Tulo
man, that would be kind of cool to have those two on the same team, as long as that team wasn’t in the NL West.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Also passed on Kershaw, Lincecum, Scherzer, Stubbs and several other legit major leaguers.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Apologies to Bhsportsguy
Willie Davis will be playing quite an important role in my series after all.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
The Westboro Church morons are apparently going to protest at Steve Jobs funeral. They announced this via twitter’s iPhone app.
They don’t like Steve Jobs or what he has done but they like his phones!
You realize that their entire existence
is as lawsuit bait right? They piss people off, get into a fight, sue people, make money.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
More news via Twitter
Justin Sellers is getting yet another tattoo.
And Lizzy Caplan is jpining New’ Girl, to give that show too much to handle for indiehipster loving guys.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
by underdog on Oct 6, 2011 1:25 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
gtfoh
now they need katy perry to join the cast and they will have the clone market cornered
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 6, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Don’t know who LIzzy Caplan, but the Sellers news is the best news I’ve heard all week! (sorry Mr. Ed)
by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
i really should watch that
didn’t know it had her AND Martin Starr!
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
it has funnys
but has done a rather shitty job of telling stories.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
We just call that “marry.”
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What has Lizzy been doing since Mean Girls?
by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
a daughter
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 6, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
He went from looking at a career that would never pay him more then 20,000 to making that in one month. Let the man splurge until his belly is full and vomit is the only recourse to start enjoying again.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
His Twitter profile lists him as an infielder for the Los Angeles Dodgers. While techinically true (now) it’ll be awkward when he has to change that to infielder in the Dodgers system by the time spring training is over.
by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m pretty sure it says “outfielder in the Dodgers system”
by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
“fuk’d ’em”
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 6, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Per Wikipedia - Mr. Ed in syndication
In the United States, reruns aired on Nick at Nite from March 3, 1986, to February 1, 1993.3 Sister station TV Land also reran the show from 1996-98 and again from 2003-06. The series is currently broadcast every morning on This TV, along with sister series The Patty Duke Show. As of January 1, 2011, the first two seasons of the show are available on Hulu.
The Patty Duke Show
Now that was a show. Cause they’re cousins… identical cousins…
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I was enamoured and why does the SBN spellcheck think enamoured is not a word?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
When theme songs told you all you need to know
But they’re cousins,
Identical cousins all the way.
One pair of matching bookends,
Different as night and day.
Where Cathy adores a minuet,
The Ballet Russes, and crepe suzette,
Our Patty loves to rock and roll,
A hot dog makes her lose control —
What a wild duet!
my mom was watching that
i wanted to ask why, but I thought better of it.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 6, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
hah
I have this impulse every day, but I’ve learned to stiffle it and just go to another room.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Ah Tommy
You are trained well for marriage.
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lol
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 6, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
must be why i'm single
i’m like a used car
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 6, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Now, before I ask any question, I ask myself two questions:
1) Do I really want to know the answer to this question?
2) Wouldn’t I really rather have a gin and tonic?
If, after those two questions, I still want to know, I ask the question.
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My problem is
its all too obvious to my wife when I am going through a similar though process, so she already knows I want to ask a dumb question, so I just do it anyways. DOH!
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
That's cause it was a kind of slowed down rappish type deal
Not a fan. Though Smart Guy’s first theme song was great, lol.
I've heard a version of this song
in a cartoon
/Rocko’s Modern Life FTMFW
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 6, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
You left out the first two lines!
Cathy’s been most everywhere from Zanzibar to Barclay Square,
But Patty’s only seen the sights a girl can see from Brooklyn Heights —
What a crazy pair!
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Still whenever I see the guy
who played her dad, I think hey, that’s Patty Duke’s dad
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Figured if they make the logo look like something out of Back to the Future II they can make the Miami wins the World Series prediction come true.
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they didn't win
it was the Cubbies!!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 6, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Come on, that is the stupidest looking Marlin ever designed by a human being
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Can’t believe no one wants to talk about Joe Moeller or Doyle Alexander
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I only knew him for being traded for John Smoltz and going crazy in the last 2 months of the season
only to suck in the playoffs.
I learned today Doyle Alexander was a Dodger. I did not know that until today. Thank you Phil, thank you.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 6, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Doyle Alexander is one of the Dodgers Dave Frishberg name checks in his classic song, “Dodger Blue.”
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88 Lines About 44 Dodgers?
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
by mleadman on Oct 6, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sigmund Jakucki… Van Lingle Munnnnnngo
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
We used to have a crazy guy in my hometown that rode a bicycle everywhere and screamed at cars when they drove by him.
His name was Doyle Hooper.
He’s the only doyle I really care to discuss.
:)
We had a crazy guy
who walked around town with a tennis racket on his back, but under his shirt. All you could see was the handle and the outline of the racket. He liked to hang out under freeway bridges.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Not a Doyle but
At Brandeis, we had a guy who looked and dressed just like Prince. We called him Prince Guy.
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In my neighborhood now
There’s a guy who walks, actually shuffles is a better description, around the neighborhood humming at the top of his voice. I see him 3-4 times a week.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
He tells me the same story
every time he sees me walking my dogs, about a dog he used to have that looks like mine. The dogs I have now are not the dogs I had when he started telling me the story.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
by mleadman on Oct 6, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 6, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Orange County
has a guy who dresses like a pirate and hangs out near the laguna hills mall. thats pretty much it.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Steve?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 6, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
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This reminds me of how big of assholes my dad and I were to this one guy in our coed soccer league.
The one thing that really pisses me off in coed soccer is how some guys will go out there and go full speed against women who obviously haven’t played soccer much and are more out there to get a workout than anything else. I’m talking about C division coed soccer. My dad and I played on this team for years (I’d play on this team and a men’s team, this one was just for fun).
There was this guy with a bandana that came in and took out one of our women on our team. Just ran into her at full speed and knocked her down, got a yellow card for it and everything. So the rest of the game, my dad and I made sure that he didn’t touch the ball at all. Or when he did, we’d immediately take it from him or foul him.
And to make sure one of us was always marking him, we’d call out to each other, “I got Pirate Steve!” or something along those lines. About halfway through the second half, he subbed out of the game and left.
Job well done.
by fbihop on Oct 6, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
(applause)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 6, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
The fact pop and son were on the same team is cool, teaming up on a dickwad is even better. The part we didn’t hear is how they both fell hard for the girl was steamrolled but she passed them both up and ended up with the Pirate because girls love the bad guys:)
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
My brother played on that team for a couple seasons also. We were pretty good, made it all the way up to the A division of coed… then all of our younger players left besides myself and we got destroyed.
But the girl who got ran over was the wife of our goalkeeper. Our goalie was this 6’2", really skinny guy. He is basically one of the nicest guys I’ve ever met — except when some guy ran into his wife during soccer. I thought he was going to go beat the crap out of that guy.
My friend who lives in Anacrime
has this bum that parks in front of her house with his horribly crappy 1980s Acura, hand washes it with bottles of water, and goes off somewhere completely different for the rest of the night, picks up his car the next day.
Very confusing.
I think so.
At first blush we lost the Doyle trade, until you consider the fact we traded Frank one year later for Andy Messersmith and I’ll take what Andy gave us in 73/74/75 over a career of Doyle.
One other tidbit.
Joe Moeller was 19 in 62 and Pete Richart was 22 and they both had to pitch because of injuries. In 1971 when we traded Doyle for Frank Robinson, Pete Richart was part of the deal and returned to the Dodgers. One could wonder if they had used Richart more then Moeller in 1962 if we’d have another World Championship banner.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Richert had the badass MLB debut when he struck out the first six hitters he faced.
That came up in 2009 when George Sherrill struck out three batters in his first inning as a Dodger.
Every thinks the Dodgers won the Osteen for Howard trade but hey forget we also gave the Senators Richert. I think the team would have been better with Howard and Richert then just Osteen. Richart was pretty bad ass in 65 and man the team could have used Howards offense in 66.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Joe Carter was traded for some reasonably big names in his career — Rick Sutcliffe, Sandy Alomar, Carlos Baerga, Fred McGriff, Tony Fernandez…
Rick Wise was traded for Steve Carlton, Reggie Smith and Dennis Eckersley at different times.
Jimmy Ring was involved in trades that also included HoFers Rogers Hornsby, Frankie Frisch, and Eppa Rixey.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
The White Sox hired Robin Ventura to be their new manager.
Start your Nolan Ryan headlock/noogie jokes!
Statement from White Sox:
“I wanted someone who met very specific criteria centered around his leadership abilities,” White Sox general manager Kenny Williams said in a statement. “Robin Ventura was that man.” The story comes as a surprise, but Ventura played 10 of his 16 major league seasons under Pale Hose owner Jerry Reinsdorf and that relationship has clearly remained healthy. Ventura will be replacing Ozzie Guillen, another high profile player-to-turned coach who recently inked a four-year contract with the Marlins.Via Rotoworld.
Everyone on Twitter is basically saying: “OMG WTF BBQ!?”
wow really?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 6, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah
that one kid almost broke it.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 6, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve thought about spending $9.99 and ordering the Kindle version. Figure the novelty of it would wear off pretty quickly though.
There's only so much
Chang and Eng you can take
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
and dinner plate in the lower lip guy
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
it would wear off
after about .12 worth
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
There’s a Guinness World records tourist attraction on Fisherman’s Wharf in San Francisco. The kind you pay $10 or so and go inside and see some displays about different kinds of Guinness Book of World Records stuff. I went there a long time ago with a friend of mine when we were probably something like 13 years old (his family invited me on a trip up there). The friend and I went inside and they had this exhbit that had a recording of the worlds loudest snore. Then they had this big ear you could snore into and see how close you could come to the record. We ended up screaming as loud as we could in to it, which of course got the attention of many others who were in the place. Even screaming we couldn’t come close to the record, so we thought it was bogus. Any who, I recently told my 7 daughter about this cool place and then we ended up in SF a few weeks ago on our cruise and the place was still there and I could tell her that that is the place where daddy screamed into the ear to try to break the record for the worlds loudest snore. /FullCircle
I remember that place
in the 70’s, but nobody wanted to spend the money on it
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
First thing I think of with Ventura is the grand slam that was a single.
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That makes me wonder
How many single hits have their own wikipedia page?
The Grand Slam Single does.
Kirk Gibson’s home run.
Edgar Martinez’s double in the 11th inning of Game 5 of the ’95 ALDS (“The Double”).
Bobby Thomson.
Any others you can think of?
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One more at least
Babe Ruth’s called shot.
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Nope.
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Not sure if there are any others. Trying to think of famous hits. Maz, maybe?
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was just thinking that
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 6, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
The Called Shot?
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Noted above, yes.
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Fuck!
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
That's the best part! :)
A stunning feel in SLO county may not translate to Chicago…. But I wish him success. It. could be The Rookie II!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
by underdog on Oct 6, 2011 3:50 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Look it up, young man.
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time waster!
no biscuit
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
In 1946, suck it Red Sox
The hit was by Harry Walker, but the play was better known as Slaughter’s Mad Dash.
It is hard to believe that Johnny Pesky was truly a beloved figure in Boston. He shoulda had Slaughter, well, slaughtered.
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Also amazing that a man with 17 career home runs, including all of six at Fenway Park, could have the right field foul pole named Pesky’s Pole.
He had to have hit an important home run off the pole for that to be the case wouldn’t he have?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
The story surrounding it seems to be pure fiction. Per Wiki:
According to Pesky, former teammate and Sox broadcaster Mel Parnell named the pole after Pesky won a game for Parnell in 1948 with a home run down the short right field line, just around the pole. However, Pesky hit just one home run in a game pitched by Parnell, a two-run shot in the first inning of a game against Detroit played on June 11, 1950. The game was eventually won by the visiting Tigers in the 14th inning on a three-run shot by Tigers right fielder Vic Wertz and Parnell earned a no-decision that day.1
Pesky was a slap hitter who hit just 17 home runs in his career (6 at Fenway Park).2 It’s not known how many of these six actually landed near the pole.
The term, though it had been in use since the 1950s, became far more common when Parnell became a Red Sox broadcaster in 1965.
I think Neyer wrote a book about players and their memories and how often what they remembered never happened.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Ya, Delias Man was telling me about it. Apparently they investigate a triple play Lasorda claims happened in the minors, which they find likely did happen.
With Lasorda, you figure there might have been some misremembering going on.
by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Merkle's boner?
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
The update - single plays in wikipedia
Merkle’s Boner
The Called Shot
The Homer in the Gloamin’
Slaughter’s Mad Dash
The Shot Heard ’Round the World
The Catch
Kirk Gibson
The Double
The Grand Slam Single
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From tim brown (this is cool)
“@TBrownYahoo: Friend of Ventura’s says Ventura was assisting the Arroyo Grande (Ca.) HS baseball team past couple years, has “Stunning feel for game.”"
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
by underdog on Oct 6, 2011 2:08 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
If you can manage the San Louis Obispo high school baseball game, you can manage anywhere.
by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Doesn’t the White Sox have to interview at least one minority candidate, or is Robin Ventura just an obscure Latin name?
What kind of crazy world
would it be if Ozzie were in the majority
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Aroldis Chapman working towards becoming a starter again.
Aroldis Chapman is about to begin the transition back to being a starter. Chapman will go to the Instructional League in Goodyear in a week or so. After building his pitch count, he’ll go to Puerto Rico to pitch in Winter Ball.
Good!
I hate to see guys like he and Feliz as relievers when they could be good starters. I wonder how Papelbon would have been as a starter.
think his arm/shoulder
arent capable of the workload..
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Oct 6, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I hate stupid commercials
KFC commercial for popcorn chicken – “What part of the chicken is nugget?”
Tell me KFC, what part of the chicken is popcorn?
/random
by VegasBlues on Oct 6, 2011 2:42 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Clearly, the popcorn part of the chicken is the part you put in tomato soup.
Duh.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Then what's
the goldfish part of the chicken?
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
if my wife didn't hate cheeze its I would do this tonight
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Fast food companies arguing over who has the closest thing to real meat should mean it’s time to start torching some KFCs.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
Does anyone else remember Ismael Valdes having a near perfect game?
He threw a one-hitter with no walks against the Pirates at Dodger Stadium on June 27, 1998. Valdes retired the first 21 batters of the game before Kevin Young opened the eighth inning with a single.
He only allowed two fly balls to the outfield.
I have literally no recollection of this game.
You had given up on the season already. After winning that game, the Dodgers were 13.5 out of first place. On June 27!
And they were in third place!
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You can’t expect to keep up with a team lead by Greg Vaughn.
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Does Bride know about this?
oh, hummus
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Lincecum’s Los Angeles-based agent Rick Thurman called it an “unwarranted lawsuit,” adding “I’m not going to dignify it with a response.”
He just dignified it with a response
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
by mleadman on Oct 6, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
For a minute I thought I’d already done this series because I’ve had a bunch of Déjà vu since I started. Luckily I haven’t but now I’m wondering if Eric already did?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Only because you should have thought of Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young first.
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Tigers making it very clear that they won’t use Verlander tonight. He completed between starts bullpen session already.
Jim Leyland.
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Puzzling
Jim is going to smoke a pack when Valverde blows his first save of the year and he has Verlander on the bench. It will be like a 1962 Don Drysdale / Walter Alston deal.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
If it comes down to it and the reason they lose is Valverde blew the first save of the year, there’s really nothing you could have done. That’s your horse, if he dies, he dies.
by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
So you're saying
Bottom of the 9th, 2-1 lead, you would have Verlander pitch, not your closer?
So, circa 2009, you would have pitched Kershaw (okay, assume its Kershaw of 2011) in the 9th inning of a game your winning, instead of Broxton?
by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Nope
What I’m saying is that after Fister gives me six good innings and I have a lead I’m giving the ball to Verlander for the seventh and eighth and Valverde for the ninth. The setup men have not looked very effective against the Yankee lineup, the New Mexico kid who was so good is worrisome. They will need to get through the 7th and 8th and I’d rather have the best pitcher in baseball do it for me then throw a frigging bullpen session.
And yes Valverde could indeed blow this game but then I wouldn’t care because they did they best they could do. They can’t go half ass tonight, they need to go full ass. JMO
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
What if you’re the manager and Verlander told you that his velocity tends to be down a little between starts or that he is nursing some kind of ailment?
Okay
As a fan all I can go by is that Verlander said he could pitch. Don Drysdale said he could and wasn’t lying about it so I don’t know why Verlander would be.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
And if Orel had not been so instrumental in the Dodgers moving on in 88 I might have a different opinion. Or that Randy Johnson hack.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Then again, Verlander could crap the bed like Tim Lincecum and Kevin Brown.
I liked both moves at the time FWIW. Still do.
Sure he could, but why not give yourself the option to use him. Hell just use him as a bluff.
There’s nothing to gain by throwing him pre game.
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Certainly don’t see anything to gain by letting the Yankee’s know he’s not available. But I’m sure Leyland knows more about managing in his gravity ravaged cheeks then I do.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Oct 6, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was thinking that too
But its not like the NL where you have to chart out all your pinch hitting moves when hitting for a pitcher. Having Verlander sit in the bullpen might make you consider a few things, but in the AL, they just let their players hit all day anyway.
by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
/Puts best hitters entirely in the bottom half of the lineup.
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I don't care if it costs us a trip to the next round
I’m not fucking usin him. Who’s got a cigarette?
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by mleadman on Oct 6, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I mean I’d like to believe that this isn’t because Verlander said he wanted to pitch tonight and Leyland was waving his dick around to show him who’s boss, but this is totally because Verlander said he wanted to pitch tonight and Leyland was waving his dick around to show him who’s boss.
Man I really hope Brad Penny pitches tonight.
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by regfairfield on Oct 6, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
If so that would mean one of two things.
1. Tigers have a ten run lead
2. Yankee’s have a ten run lead
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Question for the peeps
If I start a podcast this offseason, what features would you like to see on the podcast?
Assume it is weekly.
Goldfish & popcorn
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Compare and contrast Harry Potter with Star Wars
by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Weekly bashing of Joss Whedon. Got it.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
He’ll have me and Josie on so we can discuss why bowl games own.
by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
OMG
Jess, Rory’s girlfriend on the third season of the Gilmore Girls! He was all standoffish, monosylabic, total bad boy, so exactly the kind of guy a girl wants at around that age. But he might be bad news because that’s the kind of guy that got Lorelai pregnant with Rory when she was just 16!
Wow, I thought you were talking about the New Girl not the Hero.
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I never made the connection they where the same dude
I do this a lot.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
First thing we do now when we see a familiar face is google it to find out why we have seen them before. Last night I flipped on homeland and could not figure out where I’d seen the wife.
FIREFLY
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We said at the same time “shes the whore”
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She was the star of V as well
Played one of the lead aliens
by The Dude Abides on Oct 6, 2011 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Awful, awful show
But Citizen Kane compared to Terra Nova
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Terra Nova makes more sense
when I found out they went to a different dimension instead of travelling back in time. I still have no plan to watch it.
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I do the same thing
but a lot of times it just never occurs to me that I’ve seen them before, and then later its all like… wtf!
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My favorite character was the one they totally forgot they had — the girl from New Orleans who could replicate anything she saw. She just disappeared, even though her grandma was Uhura.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Weekly segments
~ Why we hate the Giants
~ Mike Scioscia is too big for his britches because _______
~ Fuck You Ruiz
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
I figure at least 10 minutes every single week would be devoted to listening to me watch Kirk Gibson’s home run.
So it's gonna be
Waynes World
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Dodgers history (less so)
I love that you posted this in a thread dedicated to Dodger history.
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The fact that it made my top three means I really enjoy it, just not as much as the other stuff. Beautiful, sexy and cute… one of the girls has to rank third.
I’ve never taken you as someone who cared much for prospects
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And at the end
- TV and Movie Talk (even less so, in fact, none)
/xeifrank ;)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I’d like a stat segment with a white board and lots of equations
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I’d like the kid from Numbers as your sidekick writing and explaining them.
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Or Mr. Wizard himself

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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Mr Peabody would be cool
Also Eric could travel back in time with him and explain to us famous baseball events.
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Now this I approve of
Films
In January 2011, DreamWorks Animation announced that a 3-D computer animated feature film Mr. Peabody & Sherman is in development which is set to be released on March 21, 2014.23 The feature is being directed by Rob Minkoff, who is famous for co-directing The Lion King for Disney. The main character Mr. Peabody will be voiced by Robert Downey, Jr.. The role of Sherman has not yet been cast
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Would I be going out on a limb
if I was to say that Dr Who was built off of Mr. Peadboy and way back machine?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
In January 2011 they had the precise release date of March 21, 2014, more than 3 years later, already set? Really? Does this happen regularly in the film world? Do they really stick to the release date?
Humma’s area of expertize. I do know that whenever Marvel has announced a release date they have hit it as far as I can remember.
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Yes, happens all the time.
Movies change dates all the time, too.
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With animated films
I think they can do it because they will have already had the voice acting and storyboarding done for years, while they finish up the actual animation, which generally takes 3 years for dreamworks.
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The news, in rhyming verse.
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It might be fun to see if you could get interviews with former players or current prospects. The more random, the better. Like Shawn Green probably will have “more important things to do,” but Jason Grabowski can’t pretend that he does.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Interviews will definitely be a part of it.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 6, 2011 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Reason #1 ERA+ is incredibly flawed
Mike Mcdougal 2011 ERA+ – 182
http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/LAD/2011.shtml
Kenley Jansen 2011 ERA+ – 131
Dang
Entertainment and Sports Programming Netowork
Yankee Entertainment and Sports Network
but then
New England Sports Network
Fox Sports Network
are we not supposed to be entertained watching Fox Sports?
It means you aren’t gonna see Poker or Pro Graps on there.
Except all those times you did.
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A good description of a worlds strongest man competitor.
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by regfairfield on Oct 6, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
His Dad would have kicked him in the nutts
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Except he'd be hammered
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
MNF saw the light
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Are you going to make a Game Five Thread?
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Russell Martin time to go back to the gym thread
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
BTW
I wasn’t commenting when watching the last Yankees/Tigers game, but Martin was working his ass off when blocking those hard curve balls from Burnett. Quite a difference from the lazy back-handing he used to do with CK and Billingsley.
by Michael White on Oct 6, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
He was my least favorite of all the great lakers. It might have had something to do with how poor the team did when he was the last one standing.
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He knew how to deal with being outnumbered. Proved it again in Houston the following year.
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Her mom was and will always be hotter.
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But her mom was hotter, and more of a bitch if you can believe some of the stories that I have heard from some of the extras that I knew 5 years ago.
BoingBoing.net
has an interesting Jobs tribute
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