Top 21 year old Los Angeles Dodger Position season - Adrian Beltre again
by Phil Gurnee on Oct 7, 2011 9:10 AM PDT
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Rk Player OPS+ PA Year Age R 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB BA OBP SLG OPS Pos 1 Adrian Beltre 114 575 2000 21 71 30 2 20 85 56 80 12 .290 .360 .475 .835 *5/6 2 Bill Buckner 95 383 1971 21 37 15 1 5 41 11 18 4 .277 .306 .366 .672 *93/7 3 Willie Davis 95 380 1961 21 56 19 6 12 45 27 46 12 .254 .316 .451 .767 *8 4 Tommy Davis 92 374 1960 21 43 18 1 11 44 13 35 6 .276 .302 .426 .728 *879/5 5 Ken McMullen 89 259 1963 21 16 9 0 5 28 20 46 1 .236 .297 .339 .636 *5/47 6 Bill Russell 82 304 1970 21 30 11 9 0 28 16 28 9 .259 .303 .363 .667 *98/67 7 Roger Cedeno 81 238 1996 21 26 11 1 2 18 24 47 5 .246 .326 .336 .663 *87/9 8 John Hale 80 238 1975 21 20 7 0 6 22 26 51 1 .211 .303 .333 .637 *98 9 Bobby Valentine 74 307 1971 21 32 10 2 1 25 15 20 5 .249 .287 .310 .597 654/98
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Rk Player WAR/pos PA R 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB BA OBP SLG OPS Pos 1 Adrian Beltre 3.5 575 71 30 2 20 85 56 80 12 .290 .360 .475 .835 *5/6 2 Willie Davis 2.3 380 56 19 6 12 45 27 46 12 .254 .316 .451 .767 *8 3 Tommy Davis 2.0 374 43 18 1 11 44 13 35 6 .276 .302 .426 .728 *879/5 4 Bill Russell 1.6 304 30 11 9 0 28 16 28 9 .259 .303 .363 .667 *98/67 5 Bill Buckner 1.1 383 37 15 1 5 41 11 18 4 .277 .306 .366 .672 *93/7 6 John Hale 0.5 238 20 7 0 6 22 26 51 1 .211 .303 .333 .637 *98 7 Ken McMullen 0.5 259 16 9 0 5 28 20 46 1 .236 .297 .339 .636 *5/47 8 Roger Cedeno 0.2 238 26 11 1 2 18 24 47 5 .246 .326 .336 .663 *87/9 9 Bobby Valentine -0.9 307 32 10 2 1 25 15 20 5 .249 .287 .310 .597 654/98
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Adrian Beltre wins this no matter how you slice it. He had the best offensive season, and his solid defense at 3rd base helped keep Willie Davis in 2nd place. Adrian was the only 21 year old with over 400 at bats.
Tidbits:
- This would be Adrian Beltre's best season to date, and the reason Dodger fans were expecting something akin to a HOF career. Power / Patience / Elite defense, the whole package was on display in 2000. So for the record Adrian Beltre is easily the best position playing Los Angeles Dodger from the age of 19 - 21. It will take some kind of talent to move him off this block.
- Willie Davis is about to enter the fray as he will populate the top ten of this list for quite a while. At only 21 he was not quite the everyday center fielder, but he would be shortly. Interesting to me is that Tommy Davis is the man he split time with in CF. Willie holds many long time career Dodger records, a great Dodger who died in the spring of 2010.
- Tommy Davis was showing Dodger fans a glimpse of what was to come in 1962 at age 23. In 1960 at age 21 he was playing CF and LF.
- Bill Russell was still a full time outfielder in 1970, but not a full time player. He hit 9 triples (2nd on the team) in only 278 at bats but zero home runs.
- Bill Buckner played mostly RF but didn't do much as a 21 year old. He would get better.
- This will be the only time Ken McMullen shows up on any of these lists. He won the 3rd base job out of spring training, with Jim Gilliam becoming the full time 2nd baseman. By May 5th Ken was hitting only .205 and lost the job until June 29th when he took over for the rest of the year. Interestingly enough, even though Ken started most of the games at 3rd base in Sept, he did not get one at bat in the World Series. The Dodgers shifted Gilliam to 3rd and used Dick Tracewski as they blanked the Yankee's in four straight. Ken would get little playing time in 1964 and was traded along with Frank Howard that winter for Claude Osteen.
- John Hale broke into the big leagues in 1974 with four hits in four at bats so he entered his 21 year old season with a TSL of 1.000 / 1.000 / 1.250. I expected big things from the sweet-swinging Hale but it was not to be. He had one skill and that was a great eye with a career walk rate of 12.8%. Too bad for him he could not hit for average or power. His 21 year old season was not a stepping stone to a better career but basically a glimpse into every season of his short career.
- Roger Cedeno is one of the big reasons I've raised a skeptical eye at every Dodger speedster who appears destined for stardom. Cedeno was a blazing fast center fielder who might have been the worst center fielder I've ever watched when it came to routes. Cedeno also had a good eye along with that great speed but lacked any power whatsoever. In 1996 he didn't hit enough but one could make an argument that he'd have a long and successful career. He did, just not with the Dodgers. They traded him at age 23 to the Mets along with Charles Johnson for Todd Hundley. Roger would explode with the Mets in 1998, stealing 60 bases, and putting up a .396 OBP. In retrospect, I was way too hard on Roger Cedeno, if the Dodgers had displayed some patience that combination of speed and OB would have been a valuable skill set for a few years.
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What is this nonsense that ARod is still one of the best players in baseball?
Combining the two most recent seasons (2010 – 2011), at least 200 games played
He ranks 55th in OPS+
He ranks 65th in WAR
Seems kind of relevant to use the two most recent years given his age of 36.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Five year declining OPS
since admitting he took steroids:
1.067
.965
.933
.847
.823
You want in on that trend?
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Whether, he’s a top 5 player in baseball anymore is not really the point (I know I was the one who brought it up) but we were starting from a position that the Yankees would eat salary. Assuming the deal is workable financially, yes I absolutely take him. A declining A-Rod is still better than anything we’ll be throwing out at third base, whether it’s Aramis Ramirez or more likely Juan Uribe.
by Michael White on Oct 7, 2011 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Mike Schmidt and Eddie Mathews two of the best 3rd baseman in history. Schmidt was done by 38 after posting the best WAR of any 37 year old 3rd baseman in history. Only 4 3rd baseman older then 36 have ever posted a WAR > 4.0 and two of them Brooks and Jackie did it based mostly on defense.
Heck Mike Schmidt is considered by many the greatest 3rd baseman in history, an incredible talent, a man who was still on the top of his game at age 37. Total toast by age 38 and done by 39.
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From my standpoint (and UZR backs it up) Rodriguez is still quite capable with the glove. Why do you think third baseman break down so rapidly? Do they lose the ability to field their position? Just curious.
by Michael White on Oct 7, 2011 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Carlton Fisk might be the greatest big man over the age of 36 in the history of baseball.
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Just for fun because BRef weight is suspect I looked for highest WAR, 6’2 or taller, weighed more then 200 lbs, age 37 or > , any infield position, and found only four seasons in the history of baseball with a WAR > 4.
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Some would argue that Arod is one of the top five players in the history of the game so history does not apply to him. They may be correct but his 2010/2011 seasons might be putting the kabosh on such a notion.
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You made me check Google. I now hate you.
I think I’ll go to the local cafe and order some breakfast now.
Barry Bonds.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Won't make the Bref List at 6'1 - 185
Weight is off of course but 6’1 is 6’1 at 22 or 42
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6'2 , 240 lbs
Nah, Fisk eats him alive
Frank
37 / .5
38 / 3.3
39 / 2.0
40 /-.3
Done and gone
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Beltre is about to enter his age 22 – 24 when he won’t be the toast of town. Any guesses without looking it up who is the best 22 year old?
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Was Duke Snider playing at 22?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
The guy who is fourth in WAR at age 22 had only 421 plate appearances and clearly was not a very good baseball player, yet WAR loves him for his defense.
The guy who was fifth was the ROY and all star at age 22.
This is why I hate WAR
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I can’t imagine that Mariano Duncan’s WAR was all that great, but he was exciting at 22. At least I think he was 22 when he came up.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
In WAR, even worse in OPS+ but many of those a head of him were not full time players which has to be taken into consideration. Sax has the most at bats for any 22 year old but the guy right behind was better in every which way.
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not that i was a big Sax fan
but my memory of his rookie year led me to believe he would lead this list, it was a year or two later his yips on the throw to first appeared.
by MammothDodger on Oct 7, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
shows how memory can fade
as one reaches the passes into the the 6th decade of life
by MammothDodger on Oct 7, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
also how typing might be affected
as one passes into the the 6th decade of life
by MammothDodger on Oct 7, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
DeWitt was just as good as Sax offensively at age 22.
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by regfairfield on Oct 7, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Yet one was a ROY and All-Star and the other was treated as filler.
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Wouldn’t that reflect more on the quality of the decisions about the player and players around him rather than how valid WAR is? Does OPS not work because that says DeWitt was better too? And it’s not like “Steve Sax is bad defensively” is some crazy thing stat guys came up with.
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by regfairfield on Oct 7, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
gonna have to see the real thing
before I can pass judgment
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Still like my someone really liked Back To The Future 2 theory.
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those Marlins are way too not Tron like to be from BTTF2 : )
by Josie Becker on Oct 7, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
One can only hope the wall in Miami is 500 feet away, and that inside the park home runs don’t count to trigger that abomination.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 7, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Still better than a flagpole in play.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
good call
That was terrible. Minnesota’s strangely angled RF wall strikes me as a little unfair too.
oh and the fucker the Green Monster, what an asshole
by Josie Becker on Oct 7, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t mind funky walls. I do have a problem with miniature golf hazards in play.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
There should be exactly one on a baseball field.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
by Nolij on Oct 7, 2011 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
it’s so hideous! I only pray that it makes porpoise sounds as well
by Josie Becker on Oct 7, 2011 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
This is the greatest thing I have ever seen.
I was born one minute ago.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 7, 2011 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
I was born 33 years ago and it is toward the top of the list of greatest things I have ever seen.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
What is amazing is how it got through so many levels of people saying, “Yes, that looks good,” and not, “Are you kidding, because that thing is a monstrosity that will make us the laughingstock of the sport for generations to come.”
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 7, 2011 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
You’re absolutely right.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 7, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
I hid it and hope
that the memory of it will fade quickly
by MammothDodger on Oct 7, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
I just hope this inspires McCourt to build my dream: a merry-go-round with Trolleys, that spins and goes “ding-ding-ding” after every Dodger home run
by Josie Becker on Oct 7, 2011 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
in Bakersfield, therefore out of sight of anyone at dodger stadium including our new owner Arnold Schwarzenegger
by MammothDodger on Oct 7, 2011 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
And a little clockwork man dodging the trolleys!
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 7, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
OMG! And then They can play Judy Garland singing “clang, clang, clang went the trolley. Ding, ding, ding went the bell”
by Josie Becker on Oct 7, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Did I tell you the story about how they wrote the lyrics to the verse? They had the song but needed a verse to introduce it. They were stuck, nothing was working. So the lyricist called up the costume designer on the movie.
“Tell me, what might Judy be wearing in that scene.”
“Oh, I don’t know, perhaps a high-starched collar.”
“I see. Go on.”
“And some high-topped shoes.”
“Mm-hmm. And tell me now, would her hair be piled high upon her head?”
What that does not explain is why Judy is not dressed as she specifically sings she is dressed as she sings the song in the movie.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 7, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Someday, I will show Spawn Meet Me in St. Louis, but there are a few scenes I’m not sure she can handle just yet.
And, to be clear, I’m a 37 year old man and I’m not sure I can handle some of the scenes in that movie.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 7, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I can’t stop staring at it.
It would have been better if they had promised to slaughter a live manatee every time a Marlin hit a home run.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 7, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
It is glorious, but how will they fit that thing on a hat?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Beltre's legacy
seems to get better and better the more we examine him. He should be Exhibit A for why we need to sign Kemp to a contract before he hits FA.
He’s about to hit a downside. We can blame the surgeon.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
So he can be a decent player with us, lose a testicle, then go crazy for some other team?
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by regfairfield on Oct 7, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Don’t forget the Dominican appendectomy!
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Roger Cedeno
I don’t blame the Dodgers too much for that one. I recall his “baseball intelligence” was seriously in question with us, and I was shocked when his career took off. In the pantheon of Ones Who Got Away, he’s still waiting in a long hot line, possibly eating a souvlaki and a Fresca.
Me neither, I was done with him by then. Best part of this exercise is learning new things, I had forgotten about his excellent plate discipline and only remembered how much I hated his defense in CF. Also John Hale could take a walk, he could have been Scott Hatteberg if he had been able to to hit even a little.
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It’s too bad Topps didn’t put Hale on a 1975 card. It would be awesome to see
1974 Dodgers 4 4 1 0 0 2 1.000
by Eric Stephen on Oct 7, 2011 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
The backs of cards in 1975 didn't have a ton of stats
AB, H, 2B, 3B, HR, RBI, AVG
by Eric Stephen on Oct 7, 2011 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
um, that card has a bunch of boring numbers, and then some awesome words that tell a cool story about a hit hitting the roof of the Astrodome. How cool is that!
by Josie Becker on Oct 7, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Next additions were in 1981: SB, SLG, BB, SO
by Eric Stephen on Oct 7, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
What did him in as a Dodger was that his role was as pinch runner/defensive specialist, yet he was almost Velezian in his concentration on the basepaths and Hufftastic in his route running. Dude was fast though to be sure.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
22 is going to be complicated
OPS+ is being shouted at by WAR
Pete Reiser had a WAR of 8.2 at age 22 in 1941
Matt Kemps defense is giving him huge lumps of coal while giving Willie Davis breakfest kaboobs with eggs
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Pete Reiser was not a LOS ANGELES DODGER
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I know just letting you all know who was the greatest Dodgers at age 22 since that is not complicated compared to Los Angeles Dodger. Also to answer your question Duke Snider did not qualify yet at age 22.
If I was to include all Dodgers, Adrian Beltre was still the best Dodger from age 19 – 21 with no one other then Pee Wee Reese giving him an competition at age 21.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Big Whoops
Snider was big at age 22, 5.4 WAR in 49
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
kaboobs
best breakfast ever!
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 7, 2011 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
one liner, best delivered monotone out the side of your mouth while greasing your hair. Come on!
by Josie Becker on Oct 7, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
have I always been this hyper and girly on TBLA, or is this a recent turn of events?
by Josie Becker on Oct 7, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
People like watching the Yankees.
From @sportswatch:
9.72 million watched Game 5 Thursday, most-watched LDS game in cable TV history and most anywhere since Game 5 of NYY vs. LAA in 2005.
People like watching the Yankees lose.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 7, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
:(
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ANA/ANA200510040.shtml
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And that, nolander, was the cause of the famous October 5 riots. You do not remember 4,207 people dying in the resulting calamity?
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 7, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Game 5’s are good for baseball, because elimination games are good for sport. The Yankees are good for baseball, because they’re the Yankees. Put em together and what’a you got? Bibbity Boppity Boo : )
by Josie Becker on Oct 7, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Fairly certain I was driving back from Mesquite, Nevada during that Game 5.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 7, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Don't remember
I only golfed two of the four days. One day was in St. George, Utah, about an hour away.
The trip was a mini family reunion of sorts, which involved arriving Friday, golfing 18 holes.
36 holes Saturday
36 holes Sunday
18 holes Monday, drive home
Good times.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 7, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I did a similar trip right after I graduated high school. It was a weekend thing where we played 18 holes in Mesquite on Saturday and another 18 on Sunday in St George.
We also made the mistake of making Sunday the St. George day, which meant our post-golf meal choices were severely limited since nearly every place in Utah was closed.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 7, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I had a moment of serendipity in Utah. I was making my way through the National Parks, on a somewhat leisurely route, with my dog, to a family wedding in Denver. I stayed overnight just outside Bryce Canyon, somewhere that allowed a dog but did not have breakfast. In fact, did not have a human being at reception in the mornings – you just left. I then went through the beautiful and sparsely populated Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument, still in search of breakfast. I came into some town wit a couple of places and pulled in to what I thought would be an adequate but very basic roadside place. Much to my surprise it included something called “Hungarian scrambled eggs” – and ESPRESSO – on the menu. Both of which were fantastic. It had a Hungarian cook. That was really great.
Hungarian scrambled eggs sounds good. What differentiated them from plain old scrambled eggs?
by Eric Stephen on Oct 7, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
They are scrambled by a Hungarian.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 7, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
My cousin and I still laugh about the time (you had to be there) I visited him in his dorm at Cal Poly Pomona, and he had a package of hamburger buns in his room.
Given the general lack of personal cooking devices in college dorm rooms, I asked him what those hamburger buns were for. His answer was a very dismissive “Hamburgers.”
I have no idea why it made us laugh so much, but it did. Simple and perfect.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 7, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Actually, they contained this staple of Hungarian called “leszek” – onions, garlic, green peppers, tomato sauce, and lots and lots of paprika , used in l;iots of Humgarian cooking – mixed in with the eggs. Not so different from some Italian sauces, but probably cooked in lard rather than olive oil, not sure. Super tasty. Totally unexpected in the middle or rural Utah, that’s for sure.
I had another memorable breakfast that trip, though for the company rather than the food. On the way back from Denver, I stayed in Aspen somewhere I could have breakfast out of doors – a little chilly in late August but nice – so my dog could sit there, too. At a certain point, all the squirrels in the vicinity ran up this large tree overhead and started what seemed like a squirrels’ conference, chattering away together. Then they stopped, took their positions, and starting raining down acorns trying to bean my dog, who didn’t know what was going on. (They didn’t quite make it, but came close several times.) It was pretty funny.
by berkowit28 on Oct 7, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
For my birthday
I want a tshirt from the Bunny Ranch
by Josie Becker on Oct 7, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
well there aren’t many whorehouses, it’s got the market cornered
by Josie Becker on Oct 7, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
I was in Carson City just a few weeks ago. You should have said something then. There’s probably no way in hell I would have went in though…
what, would you have phoned in and asked them to bring out a “I feel Whore-able” T, but it’s for a friend : )
by Josie Becker on Oct 7, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Maybe they saw you sent tweets to Whitney Cummings so Ticketmaster thought you liked shitty comedians?
by Eric Stephen on Oct 7, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Because it corresponds with your previous purchases of Carrot Top and Taylor Hicks.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
NBC Thursday Night comedy sure went to hell in a handbasket quickly.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Bad shows last night? I haven’t watched any of them yet.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 7, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
As long as community gets a fourth season
and ends it there I will be happy.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
NBC is the Florida Marlins of networks.
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by regfairfield on Oct 7, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
I loved the first season, I gave up 15 seconds into the claymation episode in season 2 and never went back.
by Michael White on Oct 7, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
You missed a great 2nd season, but they look like toast now. They are focusing on their weakest member and not their strongest. Fairly stupid.
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I was already starting to get bored since I saw they were trying to make Ken Jeong (who I don’t find funny at all) a main character.
by Michael White on Oct 7, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
it’s weird that Winger has been pushed to the wall
by Josie Becker on Oct 7, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
He was the worst part of season 2
they have tried to chang-e his role in season 3, will hvae to see if it works.
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It is fairly amazing the career Jeong has crafted in the last few years.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 7, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
I was in the same room with him once, walked right by him
by Josie Becker on Oct 7, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
He’s the Dioner Navarro of comedians?
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They’ve been really hit and miss since season 1.
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by regfairfield on Oct 7, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Agreed. Abed and Troy had hit there stride mid-way thru season 1 and they were hilarious. I also liked the sexual tension between Joel McHale and the two hot women.
by Michael White on Oct 7, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Move it to friday night
give it one more low budget season, profit.
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Parks was fun, though a bit obvious
Community was on point, though sometimes just mean
The Office meandered
And Whitney proved she’s a great comedian but she can’t act. Like Jerry Seinfeld.
So, par for the course, really
by Josie Becker on Oct 7, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Whitney proved she’s a great comedian
She did?
by Eric Stephen on Oct 7, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
She is funny but raunchy; I just objected to “great”
by Eric Stephen on Oct 7, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
sorry, that adjective always gets off its leash
by Josie Becker on Oct 7, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
the bars are low around here for everything
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Good point. I just see Whitney Cummings trending toward the Lisa Lampanelli path when Cummings is much better than that trash IMO.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 7, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Can the shows be watched on nbc.com?
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That reminds me
You said you are getting rid of cable, how will you be watching the Dodgers next season?
by Michael White on Oct 7, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
magic
I’m going to try to pay for a vpn and use mlb.tv. Technically maybe illegal, but I’m still giving them my money so I feel no guilt.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
So you basically trick MLB.TV into thinking you’re in Ohio or something, right?
by Michael White on Oct 7, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
thats the plan
finding a reliable vpn is the hard part
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Is a VPN like a box? Is it a program? Does it come on a floppy diskette?
by Josie Becker on Oct 7, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s a program.
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by regfairfield on Oct 7, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
you connect to the vpn
and all your internet stuff goes through it, so then your IP is hidden from the sites you are accessing.
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He’s basically stealing and rationalizing his stealing because he grew up in Irvine where they have been taught that if they are smart enough, rules don’t apply to them.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
And, as we have seen from the justice system, they are right.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 7, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
This is my business now
90% of the work I do is anti-piracy related.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
you’re like that guy in the Brittish Royal Navy in those pirate movies!
by Josie Becker on Oct 7, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
and without people like me
your job wouldn’t exist! See, I’m giving back to the community.
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b/c
we are trying to figure out if there is a way for two of us to share one sunday ticket ps3 account. he lives in SF.
There is not
it only lets you log in once. My buddy can’t be on his laptop logged in and on my ps3 at the same time, even if we are on the same network.
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i figured i cant watch at same time, but at different times
i already have him as a user on my system so i can access all his games he has downloaded
ah
well, I’ve been using his ps3 service at my house and he has been using it on his laptop at his house, and so far no complaints from directtv.
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aye
BUT its been up and down, broke week 1 and 3, and then he had some problms week 4 but it worked for me fine.
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Would Nolander
agree with the concept of out of state college students using local addresses as their residences so they don’t have to pay higher registration fees since “they are still paying for the service.”
You should have gotten express written consent.
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by regfairfield on Oct 7, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Phil would
Phil would also do what Nolander is attempting to do if he was struggling to make ends meet and cable was simply something he couldn’t afford. Phil would not do this if he was employed as a software engineer making in the upper 90% of workers in his age group.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
if mlb wants more money
they can charge more for their mlb.tv service. The cable companies don’t play fair why should we?
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Let’s see who can come up with the worst analogy for this.
YOU WOULDN’T STEAL A CAR WOULD YOU?
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by regfairfield on Oct 7, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
not a random spot
but it just depends on where the vpn is set up.
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Or Iowa
Iowa: Zero MLB teams, SIX blacked-out teams on MLB.tv (Chicago, Chicago, Minnesota, Milwaukee, St. Louis, Kansas City)
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 7, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
These rules are fascinating to me in how stupid they are
by Michael White on Oct 7, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
If all those teams are available to watch on a basic local sports cable package, it makes sense.
by Josie Becker on Oct 7, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Sure, but VegasBlues was telling me that the Dodgers were blacked out in Las Vegas and he didn’t get them on local TV.
by Michael White on Oct 7, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Do Las Vegas casinos
Just get a blanket exception to the blackout rules, because they don’t have a problem showing every game under the sun.
by Michael White on Oct 7, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
I imagine they have a really good satellite package.
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by regfairfield on Oct 7, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Not sure actually.
Look at this map for MLB blackouts. Las Vegas has 6 different teams (Dodgers, Angels, A’s, Giants, Dbacks, and Padres)
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/67627/MLB_Blackout_Map1000x733.gif
These aren't
the NFLs, 75 mile radius blackout rule, on the notion that 75 miles is max driving distance for an NFL game. This is strictly RSNs not wanting to lose revenue
by Josie Becker on Oct 7, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m still kind of confused by the NFL blackout rules too. How can LA be blacked out of a Chargers game ever? It’s more than 75 miles away.
by Michael White on Oct 7, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Don’t they use the lower point of the reach of KCBS, which would be something like San Clemente. That would fall under the 75 mile restriction.
But it does seem arbitrary and weak.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 7, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
What’s the upper reach, Santa Barbara? Now we’re up to a few hunderd mile blackout radius.
by Michael White on Oct 7, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
You asked for a miracle, I give you the N…F….L
by Eric Stephen on Oct 7, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
you live in Santa Barbara, like the Chargers?
get on a train to Union Station at 6 in the morning, then take the Pacific Surfliner to San Diego, arrive at 10:30-11. Eat a burrito in Old Town, take the trolley to Qualcomm stadium.
This is the NFL’s opinion of SB Charger fans : )
by Josie Becker on Oct 7, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
I’ve noticed KCBS has been picking up Raider games this year, instead of a random national game. They still cut out with a minute to go though : )
by Josie Becker on Oct 7, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
I unfortunately saw the end of the Buffalo game.
/RedZoneChannel
by Eric Stephen on Oct 7, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I think this week again is Raider early/Charger late.
by Josie Becker on Oct 7, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Heh
But don’t you get screwed by just being in the radius. Say it’s a black out, it’s not as if CBS can show you a different game in that time slot. Or can they?
by Michael White on Oct 7, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
the blackout drops 48 hours in advance, and KCBS choses a different game
by Josie Becker on Oct 7, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
In all of these blackout cases, it’s almost like a policy has been instituted, and, separately, blackouts have been issued, without regard to that policy, or reason, or common sense.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 7, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, I certainly wouldn’t complain about having more baseball provided to me with my basic cable package.
by Michael White on Oct 7, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Last year in New Mexico you could either get the Rockies via satellite or the Diamondbacks via cable, but not both. This year you could get both but not the Rockies in HD.
Interesting. I know in Eric’s home town, they get local coverage to Dodgers, Angels and Padres which is pretty cool.
by Michael White on Oct 7, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
At least a few years ago in Palm Springs, they had two CBS affiliates (one was the dominant one with network shows, the other showed local programming during prime time), which was awesome on NFL Sundays because there were often two choices for the CBS game.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 7, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
I just checked
Right now, you can get “Padres Channel 4” on Time Warner Cable in Palm Springs (channel 27), which means you can still watch Dodgers, Angels, and Padres all on local cable TV.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 7, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
They get Prime Ticket (at least in parts of Vegas), just not KCAL.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 7, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Sioux City, Iowa, is nearly 500 miles from Chicago. That is further than LA is from SF. LA does not get SF baseball on basic cable. I find it hard to believe that they’d get Chicago baseball.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 7, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
nobody cool lives in Sioux City, though
by Josie Becker on Oct 7, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Alaska gets Mariners games local since it’s the closest team. Hawaii gets both Dodgers and Giants.
I’m with Josie, I have no problem with it as long as they get it on the basic package, but I beleived there were certain scenarios where it was blacked out on MLB.TV and local cable packages.
by Michael White on Oct 7, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
More blackout
All live games will be blacked out in the U.S. territories of Guam and the U.S. Virgin Islands during the MLB regular season.
Baseball fan in Guam? Sorry, pal.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 7, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
most Americans in Guam can watch on the Armed Forces Network
by Josie Becker on Oct 7, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
They can watch all 15 games every night? For free?
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 7, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
i can get the a's on MLB.tv
but not the dodgers angels or giants. the a’s are the closest to me.
if you have cable you get FSW but not primeticket and the locals are from Reno (some giants games but no A’s)
if you have Directv you get PT and FSW and the Reno locals.
(or if you have been with DTV long enough you get distant network feeds ABC NBC CBS and FOX from LA and NY)
by MammothDodger on Oct 7, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
I noticed that when I was on my trip in your area. But not all that far away, in Lone Pine, the cable TV had both FSNs plus KCAL, so you could get both Dodgers and Angels (I think they even had that LA station that carries the other Angel games, not sure, which is more than I get here in Santa Barbara). I believe it was the same cable package up as far as Bishop, though I’m not 100% certain. And Bishop is really close to you. It’s very peculiar.
yes Bishop is LA market for "over air" stations
we are Reno. I know a few people who have told Dirctv that they are in Bishop so they get LA locals (one does it just for KCAL dodger games) It just needs to be an adddress that does not have Dtv service already. I would do that but it would effect my distant network feed, and cause a whole bunch of spousal grief, even though we DVR almost everything we watch. Wife still likes to be able to watch stuff on East Coast time (or at least shortly there after.
by MammothDodger on Oct 7, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
not sure how this would work
a Virtual Private Network would need an endpoint outside of the blackout area. So I guess if you have someone that lives in Utah that will put a VPN router on their internet and they have a fast enough upload peed to allow watchable video you could set up that way. I am pretty sure MLB blocks out connections from commercial anomymizers (which is what i believe you are describing). BUt hey if you get it to work share with me please (off the tbla site of course)
by MammothDodger on Oct 7, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
If MLB can't figure out your ip
they use your credit card billing address I think.
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I trick it into thinking I was in New York, the pizza’s better
by Josie Becker on Oct 7, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
So my dad is going to a concert today.
Said concert is the Rockstar Energy Uproar Festival, headlined by Avenged Sevenfold.Other bands: Sevendust, Three Days Grace, Bullet for My Valentine.
Something is wrong here.
Yes, something is wrong there. Bullet for My Valentine doesn’t have a prime number in its name.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 7, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
TEARS
FALL DOWN AROUND ME. Damnit now I have to listen to that song and not entirely ironically.
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Found out that my mom is going as well.
“I think that I’ve heard of that three… what was that band?”
This does remind me that my mom’s first ever concert was Black Sabbath with opening act Van Halen.
I all of a sudden find myself worrying about your screen name. Are you promoting trampolines in the Federal Bureau of Investigation or the International House of Pancakes on facebook? Or perhaps gender non-judgmental intimacy with multiple partners?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I was told you folks are talking about the possibility of A-Rod being traded?
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Wait, you want A-Rod?
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I’m surprised anyone does, honestly. For the whole contract?
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"Every day is a great day for hockey."
The stipulation was that the Yankees would be so desperate to get rid of him that they would eat the bulk of the deal.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 7, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
And the Yankees are probably crazy and they have more money than anybody, so they might do it!
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 7, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Hey, Yankee fans have always hated this guy (he’s not a true Yankee!) and if they pay a bulk of the salary they can get a prospect that the national media will immediately pimp as the best prospect in baseball as soon as he’s in the Yankees system.
by Michael White on Oct 7, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Kyle Russell for Alex Rodriguez!
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 7, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
You’d be willing to give a prospect?
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"Every day is a great day for hockey."
Shit yes
If you’re willing to eat a chunk of the salary, you can have your pick.
Before you ask, Matt Kemp and Clayton Kershaw are not prospects.
by Michael White on Oct 7, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes, but bear in mind: the Dodgers don’t have any prospects.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 7, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Can you believe it?
I guess it would break down like this:
You pay 29 Million we send you Eovaldi, Webster, and Javy Guerra
You pay 25 Million we send you Eovaldi and Guerra
You pay 20 Million we send you Guerra
You pay 15 Million we don’t you send you anyone
You pay 10 Million you send add in Romine
You pay 5 Million you add in Montero
You pay nothing you add in Montero and Betances
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Yeah, there’s no chance the Yankees ever trade Montero, Betances, and A-Rod in one trade. Not even A-Rod+anyone.
What’s with the Dodgers farm, anyway?
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Nothing wrong with it.
We promoted a closer from it this year
We promoted the best setup pitcher in baseball from it this year
We found a starting SS from it this year
We found a starting LF from it this year
What is with having a 200,000,000 payroll and playing having a rotation that includes Garcia / Colon
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
We have this OF at AA with big-time power. Big, big, big power.
Just don’t ask about his strikeout rate, okay? Don’t do it. Big power.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 7, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Ah, I was just going based on the previous comment about having a poor system.
The rotation was sad, but they really did step up for the regular season.
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"No matter what I talk about, I always get back to baseball."
"Every day is a great day for hockey."
There’s no chance the Yankees trade A-Rod either.
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by regfairfield on Oct 7, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
We have this guy named Juan Uribe who will be playing 3rd base next year.
by Michael White on Oct 7, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
who ain’t going away because magic does not work in baseball only basketball
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
We have Juan Uribe at 3rd.
We have a shortstop who, if things go very, very well, will have an OPS of about 650.
We have no second baseman.
Yes, I’ll take A-Rod if the Yankees are paying significant money.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 7, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh…the salary thing….
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Ned Colletti: “I told you we were going to get a nine-figure player!”
by fbihop on Oct 7, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
BTW we will also take Teixeira if you want to pay all his salary. Hell throw in Jeter.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
We’ll take Jeter, but only if Nolij can be his personal caddy.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 7, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes, the first few comments in this thread and the last thread.
by Michael White on Oct 7, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Angry Amish “clan” attacks other Amish people, cuts off their hair and beards.
Lt. Richard McBride said that when he went to the home last month, at first he encountered resistance from resident Barbara Miller. After some coaxing, Miller pointed to her husband, whose beard had been cut, and said, “They did that to him,” the sheriff’s report states.I fear this may make people think that Amish people are weird.
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Then she removed the bandanna she was wearing, revealing several patches of missing hair. “And they did this to me,” she told McBride.
Adios, Vector, Gibbons
Baseball America with the details:
Los Angeles Dodgers
Elected free agency: C Hector Gimenez, OF Jay Gibbons
Recalled: RHP Carlos Monasterios, 2B Ivan De Jesus Jr., OF Jamie Hoffmann
Reinstated from DL: RHP Robert Chamra, RHP Tim Corcoran, RHP Carlos Monasterios, RHP Luis Vasquez, C Fumimasa Ishibashi, C B.J. Larosa, C Angelo Ponte, 1B Franklin Jacobs, 2B Pedro Guerrero, 3B Pedro Baez, 3B Kevin Taylor, SS Christian Lara, SS Faustino Oguisten
well really it was pure coincidence yesterday
I did not intentional try to cover anyone. as for today i like longshots and big payoffs when no real $ on the line. I have been going long in these games since at least late July
by MammothDodger on Oct 7, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Just kidding
hell of a pick
I’m going to go Reyes on this one
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Did Anybody Watch American Horror Story On Wednesday Night?
I just streamed it. 51 minutes without advertisements, so I am wondering if anybody can tell me how by how many minutes the show over-ran its one-hour time slot.
Decent chance it was in the guide with the correct times though, no? For instance, Man Men and Breaking Bad are often something like 7pm to 8:04pm or something like that.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 7, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Most DVRs record based on the full length of the show, don’t they?
Maybe they are fucking with people who still record on their 1980s-era VHS tapes.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 7, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Thought we had noticed that the Daily Show was now starting at 06:55 instead of 07:00 to screw with the DVR people. Then they moved it to 06:00, don’t know if it starts at 05:55 or not, haven’t watched for a few months.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
as Humma said, as long as your DVR has an electronic guide, it has the right start times.
by Josie Becker on Oct 7, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Then why start at 06:55? has to be a reason
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Just trying to compensate for TBS starting everything at +:05 for years
by Eric Stephen on Oct 7, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Start at 6:55, show ends at 7:25. Watch the next show.
Start at 7:00, show ends at 7:30, change the channel and watch a different show.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 7, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
“Turner Time” was the practice of starting WTBS programming at :05 and :35 after the hour. Why? For the simple reason that once you started watching something on WTBS, it would be darned difficult to switch easily to another channel or program. Once something on WTBS was over, the program on the other channels had already begun, so why not just keep it tuned to WTBS?
It could be something along this line of thinking.
as a kid i used to wake up at 630am
it gave me 5 minutes to piss and get eggos before mama’s family came on. i loved it.
MTV used to screw it up all the time. The electronic guide always had even hour starts and finishes but it never works out that way.
by Michael White on Oct 7, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
I watched a different American Horror Story
Bride got sick and I had to put the kids to bed all by myself!
AND CLEAN UP THE HOUSE!
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 7, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Whenever I see on HBO or whatever that something has “Adult Content,” I think they must be paying bills or doing taxes or something.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I would link to an image of the strip
but I know the guy who makes it wouldn’t like that.
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Nova's forearm
per David Waldstein:
Nova had MRI today. Revealed grade 1 strain of flexor tendon. No surgery necessary, Yanks said. Should be ready for spring training
Kings-Rangers 1-1 through 2 periods. Time for Richards to do a thing.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
it’s Queen’s Park Rangers, not King’s Park
by Josie Becker on Oct 7, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh, go back to buggerchester. Kings are the only local major league sports team we’ve got right now.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
The point still stands.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
by Nolij on Oct 7, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
his beard was too distracting, good riddance
by Josie Becker on Oct 7, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
If the NBA lockout doesn’t get settled by Monday, i’m going to have to jump into the NHL feet first. No way around it.
by Michael White on Oct 7, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
That way madness lies!
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 7, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Jumping into the ice rink feet first is a good way to land on your ass
by Eric Stephen on Oct 7, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Marital Problems
For those of you following the Ongoing Saga of Humma and Bride’s iPhones, there is a new chapter.
I did some looking into it and it looks like the choice of carriers comes down to this:
1) Verizon has the best network.
2) AT&T has the only network that can access the 4S’s faster download speeds.
3) Sprint will be cheaper AND has an unlimited data plan.
But, ah, there is one more complicating factor. I have a grandfathered $30 unlimited data plan from AT&T. So, to me, it sounds like I go with AT&T, yeah? Sure, the network sucks, but faster phone + keep old plan sounds good to me. But it also sounds like I can live with Sprint — cheap plan, keep unlimited data.
Problem: Bride wants Verizon. Best network.
Be our counselors! Solve this impossible problem!
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She considered it, but rejected it. I know, I’d have divorced me, too.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 7, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Go with Verizon, ask for a Reverse Humma this weekend.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 7, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
A 6-3 Dodger win? Dude, they have been eliminated, and even if they were still playing, I’m not sure Bride could influence that; she sucks at baseball even more than I do.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 7, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Assuming you are free of AT&T contract issues already, use your leverage. Call Verizon and tell them your predicament. If they can’t match your data price, stick with AT&T. Estimate the difference in cost and multiply by 12. Tell Bride you’re not spending X-hundred dollars for a marginally better network.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
That is a good idea. It can’t hurt to call Verizon and see what they say. That said, I imagine they get a lot of these calls, and I can’t imagine they waive their policies very often. I’ll call this weekend, but my expectations are low.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 7, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
If they see this as a significant way to horn in on the AT&T iPhone market share, they should be willing.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
It is certainly worth a call.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 7, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Just got off the phone with Verizon
I can pre-order the phone and get it at the 2-year plan even though I am not officially at my 18 month upgrade time but I am on my annual upgrade time.
I too grandfather in a rate plan with unlimited texts and data.
And my droid as nice crack on the glass so it is time to change the phone
how do you have both an 18 month and an annual upgrade time?
by Josie Becker on Oct 7, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
they subsidize less of the cost
at the annual upgrade. To get the full subsidy you have to wait till 18 months.
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Okay
I do have to pay another $20 to get it now instead of waiting until December but I get the same price as everyone else.
BH, you are already a Verizon subscriber? i.e., you’re not trying to do what I’m trying to do, which is convince Verizon to give me an unlimited data plan because I have one on AT&T?
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 7, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Right
no but hey it is worth a shot.
Personally, I know plenty of people who have I-phones on AT&T that live in the South Bay, I would go with that plan, also, it is a lot easier to deal with if you ever take it abroad.
Just called
Verizon will not honor AT&T’s unlimited data plan.
Yeah, I think I wanna stick with AT&T, but I’ll see what Bride says.
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Sprint’s coverage is terrible terrible terrible.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I really doubt Bride is going to use more then 2 gigs
unless she decides to stream music or watch netflix on her phone and such. Its only a 2 year contract, whats the risk!
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Bride is stuck with a tiered plan no matter what. She has no data plan right now.
I will not use more than 2 gigs, but I’m trying to think about the future. Holding on to that plan may be a good idea because I MAY use more than 2 gigs in the future, no?
Or am I overvaluing the unlimited plan? Should I just give it up and go with Verizon?
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Get the unlimited plan an hold onto it as long as you can.
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That’s what I figured. AT&T it is.
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I don’t get this. You and Reg would have crappy service and unlimited then spend some money and have a reliable network? What good is unlimited if the service sucks?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
ATT doesn't "suck"
its a notch below verizon, but still better then tmobile or sprint or
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Okay, just going by everyone I know who had an Iphone and fled to Verizon as soon as they could.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Because were fast approaching a time where you’ll pull more than 2 gigs a month.
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2 minutes left in the game, Kings on the Power Play. It’s getting real in the Whole Foods parking lot!
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Man, I dislike that viral video. Whole Foods? Give me a break, people are positively courteous in the Whole Foods parking lot.
The Costco parking lot, on the other hand — that is the land that law forgot. It is impossible. God forbid you want to park your car, or, having parked your car, want to walk to the store, or, having shopped, want to steer your cart back to your car. It is a hyperaggressive place. I hate the Costco parking lot so much.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 7, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
If things were constantly real in the Whole Foods Parking Lot then it wouldn’t be worth having a song about.
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by regfairfield on Oct 7, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Sure it would. There are plenty of ballads about places forsaken by God, and the lone man looking for justice in an unforgiving world.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 7, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
For example
He came outta Chicago, the man with a bat
Ran home-to-first in no time flat
Signed a big deal in the land of McCourt
Stood mighty tall when he was sold short
And they called him Juan
Juan Pierre
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 7, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Whole Foods is a brutal place. The faux-hipsters are terrible people. Costco is worse, though.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I don’t like Costco, cause I can’t wear my flannel there
by Josie Becker on Oct 7, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
no you can still wear an old dress
but apparently not flannel
by MammothDodger on Oct 7, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s true like they all really like granola.
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by regfairfield on Oct 7, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I swear! At least at my Costco, the uniform seems to be flannel with a pair of jeans. Really, no one else?
by Josie Becker on Oct 7, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
whole foods parking lot was forever crowded with people trying to get me to sign petition for gay marriage. why don’t they go to other stores to ask for signatures too? What are they trying to say about people who shop at whole foods?
In all likelihood, they are saying that the demographic of people with the expendable income to shop at Whole Foods overlaps well with the demographic of people who are likely to support gay marriage.
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 7, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I do all my costco shopping on tuesdays at 7:30
its empty, and wonderous
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
South Bay Costco is the problem not Costco Parking Lots.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Burbank was just as bad.
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Then again I never attempt to park close to Costco, I simply go straight to the area where their are no cars and walk the extra 30 feet. It is possible our Costco has a huge lot compared to the norm, I’m unaware of the norm, as the Canogo Costco is the only one I’ve shopped at in 15 years.
According to city planners Woodland Hills is going to get a Costco, it will be on Victory / Topanga right down the street from me. This is probably not a good thing.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
No dude
I’ve shopped at like half a dozen costcos. They are all hell in the parking lots on weekends.
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Costa Mesa, Tustin, Tustin II, Irvine, Irvine II, Aliso Viejo, Mission Viejo
…
We have a lot of Costcos in OC
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Legal update, probably anticlimactic but anyway...
BillShaikin Bill Shaikin
Judge Gross issues order formally denying #Dodgers request for access to documents from other MLB clubs.
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Updates
Judge Gross: “LAD either breached or didn’t breach the Baseball Agreements—the actions of other teams do not bear upon the issue.”
Gross: “The commissioner’s relationship with LAD, including his refusal to approve the media rights sale, is what is at issue …”
“…not what 29 other teams have and/or have not done and why the Commissioner approved or rejected their requests.”
Gross leaves door ajar for McCourt: “Should (MLB) falter in proving alleged wrongdoing, the Court may allow LAD further limited discovery.”
D'Backs and Brewers Lineups via BaseballPress.com
1. Willie Bloomquist® SS
2. Aaron Hill® 2B
3. Justin Upton® RF
4. Miguel Montero (L) C
5. Paul Goldschmidt® 1B
6. Chris Young® CF
7. Ryan Roberts® 3B
8. Gerardo Parra (L) LF
9. Ian Kennedy® P
1. Corey Hart® RF
2. Nyjer Morgan (L) CF
3. Ryan Braun® LF
4. Prince Fielder (L) 1B
5. Rickie Weeks® 2B
6. Jerry Hairston® 3B
7. Yuniesky Betancourt® SS
8. Jonathan Lucroy® C
9. Yovani Gallardo® P
by Alex41592 on Oct 7, 2011 1:32 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Cardinals and Phillies Lineups via BaseballPress.com
1. Rafael Furcal (S) SS
2. Skip Schumaker (L) CF
3. Albert Pujols® 1B
4. Lance Berkman (S) RF
5. Matt Holliday® LF
6. Yadier Molina® C
7. David Freese® 3B
8. Nick Punto (S) 2B
9. Chris Carpenter® P
1. Jimmy Rollins (S) SS
2. Chase Utley (L) 2B
3. Hunter Pence® RF
4. Ryan Howard (L) 1B
5. Shane Victorino (S) CF
6. Raul Ibanez (L) LF
7. Placido Polanco® 3B
8. Carlos Ruiz® C
9. Roy Halladay® P
by Alex41592 on Oct 7, 2011 1:34 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Where does Dave Dombroski rank amongst MLB GM's?
Has to be near the top, considering success in multiple franchises.
Come on
UZR
Andre
2008 negative 8
2009 negative 13
2010 negative 16
2011 Plus 5
and you all really think these wild variances are reliable indicators of a players defense? That something changed in a 29 year olds approach to defense that accounted for this while playing the same position in the same field all four years?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
No, that’s why people say you shouldn’t base a players true talent level off one year of UZR data.
Other stats can have wild fluctuations too.
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For the curious, Maddz is live tweeting from AFL game involving Dodger prospects
including Griff. Ames and Castle.
http://twitter.com!/maddzGoesRAWR
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darn links
http://twitter.com/maddzGoesRAWR
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has Gary already determined which ones will suck and which ones won’t based on these few at bats?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Not yet, or at least doesn't appear to be tweeting much...
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He had a negative WAR last year (thanks to having a .218 wOBA) so I’ll say, no.
by Michael White on Oct 7, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Is there any reason to not just sign Nick Punto instead?
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If they take Uribe / Lilly / Guerrier then yes
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
He has $17mil left on his contract. BTW, the first hit on Google for “juan uribe contract” was TBLA. Uribe has $16mil left but is probably a better player going forward. Throw in one more contract and I think it’s fair. Maybe Uribe/Guerrier/prospect for Figgins.
Why would the M’s do that? Uribe might be a better player but he is not a good player. Surely Seattle’s goal is to try to get out from under a bad contract, not trade for a similarly bad one, no?
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