Friday NLDS Open Thread
by Eric Stephen on Oct 7, 2011 2:02 PM PDT
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Last night's Game 5 in New York was so exciting, let's do that again today. Twice. Both National League Division Series will be decided today, with games in both Milwaukee and Philadelphia.
Arizona Diamondbacks at Milwaukee Brewers - NLDS, Game 5: 2 p.m.
Ian Kennedy and Yovani Gallardo give us a rematch of Game 1 of this series, which was a close contest into the seventh inning, when Prince Fielder hit a two-run home run off Kennedy to double Milwaukee's lead to 4-0. The Brewers won that game 4-1, starting a trend of home teams winning each game of this series. The Brewers outscored the Diamondbacks 13-5 in two games in Milwaukee, then Arizona outscored Milwaukee 18-7 in two games in Phoenix.
The Brewers are 59-24 this season at Miller Park.
TV: TBS
St. Louis Cardinals at Philadelphia Phillies - NLDS, Game 5: 5:30 p.m.
Outside of CC Sabathia vs. Justin Verlander in the ALDS, this game provides us with the best pitching matchup of the first round. Roy Halladay and Chris Carpenter battle in a matchup of fully-rested Cy Young Award winners in Philadelphia.
In 16 starts at Citizens Bank Park this season, Halladay has 13 walks and 116 strikeouts, and he has allowed four home runs in 121 innings. One of those home runs was hit by Lance Berkman in Game 1 six days ago to give the Cardinals a 3-0 lead in the first inning. After that home run, Halladay retired 24 of the next 25 batters, including the final 21 he faced, and the Phillies won 11-6.
The Phillies are trying to become the second National League team to play in four straight NLCS, joining the Atlanta Braves, who played in five straight from 1995-1999 (and eight straight if you throw out the strike year of 1994).
TV: TBS
Potential NLCS Game 1 Matchups, Sunday
Milwaukee at Philadelphia
Arizona at Philadelphia
St. Louis at Milwaukee
St. Louis at Arizona
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Milwaukee and St. Louis here.
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If it’s Milwaukee vs. StLouis, you have the possibility of Furcal hitting 6 homers in the series and Salty going crazy on you.
by Michael White on Oct 7, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
On Figgins:
I like the idea of getting a player who is down on his luck by getting him cheap on a buy-low plan. But if you think the Dodgers have a shot, and Figgins performing is part of that shot, then no, you should not acquire him. He could very well suck.
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Yes, but maybe not enough to make a difference. Don’t forget, I have already written off 2012, though — and you read it here first — I am starting to think that I may have been wrong to do that. Still go with me for a second…
If your takeaway from 2011 is that without a big bat, the Dodgers are going to have trouble contending, and if the Dodgers do not have the payroll to acquire such a bat, then yes, acquire Figgins, because he could help make a marginal team that much better and help them — he gets right, things go right, and the Dodgers win the lottery.
If your takeaway from 2011 is that the Dodgers aren’t as bad as all that, and their last 8 weeks was for real, and they really just need a few supporting pieces to compete in a weak division, then no, you cannot afford to go get a player who could crap the bed.
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Perhaps I’m splitting hairs here, but the Dodgers do have a big bat. I assume you mean another big bat.
by Michael White on Oct 7, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, of course I did. Sorry, I phrased that poorly.
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I'd like to have another ace or solid starter on the staff as much or more than a big bat.
Assuming the offense continues anywhere close to what it did in the 2nd half,
we could be good there. Not so sure about the rotation at this point.
Trade Ethier?
But the Dodgers do need people who can be acquired for cheap and have the upside to outplay their contract.
Chone Figgins isn’t that guy though, he’s finished.
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is his swing slow?
is his running slow? Bad hand eye coordination? What happened to him?
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That’s what I think, too, because I think the Dodgers are going to have trouble competing.
But if one thinks that the Dodgers’ last 8 weeks are for real, then that person would disagree. That person would advocate targeting players at key positions where the Dodgers need to improve and where they know pretty well what they’re going to get.
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Then what the hell do we need Lilly for if you are not going to compete in 2012?
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You don’t know what you’ll get with Figgins. If you know what you’re getting is the last two years, then you obviously pass. His last two years is truly at the Aaron Miles level and no better than the crap you’ve already got to play 3B.
by Michael White on Oct 7, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
We are agreeing. If you think that the Dodgers are a few players from contending, do not get Figgins. If you think that the Dodgers are going to have trouble and need some magic or things to go right, go get a buy-low player with upside.
I take no position on Figgins, specifically, because I don’t know enough about whether he has upside or if he’s totally done.
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Sorry to start a nonstarter conversation here. I just think whatever we need to compete in 2012 has to be way outside the box. Just wondering if we could somehow steal a serviceable starting infielder in exchange for salary. If he’s truly done, then of course there’s no point.
No apologies necessary, I like discussing baseball :)
by Michael White on Oct 7, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
The trouble is that the Dodgers are in such a weird place. If Sands and Gordon (and Loney, if he’s around) play like they did in the last 8 weeks of the season, the Dodgers will regret it if they don’t go for it. Lesser performance could mean that going for it is a huge mistake. Who knows what the right thing to do is — those three moving parts alone — and not even getting into what they do if Kuroda doesn’t come back — raise huge questions for the team.
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If you can’t agree to an extension with Kemp, you are basically forced to go all in anyway, agreed?
by Michael White on Oct 7, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Trading Kemp is very likely impossible for Colletti, even if it is the right baseball move. With attendance at about 30K, there is no way McCourt would let him trade the reigning MVP.
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I don’t follow this line of thinking at all.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
1. Try to extend Kemp
2. Kemp cannot be extended
3. Colletti and McCourt discuss possible moves: go all-in vs. trade Kemp seem to be best options
4. McCourt says don’t trade Kemp, can’t afford the additional PR hit.
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The only name I can think of
When discussing trading Kemp is Heyward.
by Michael White on Oct 7, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Kemp will not be traded. I’m sure you agree.
I think this conversation is convincing me to come around to the “go all in” position. I do hope they have some money to go all in with.
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No way Kemp will be traded this off season
Very good chance Kemp will be traded by July 31st if
1. He does not sign an extension before the season starts
2. Dodgers suck
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Good Lord, if the Dodgers suck, they’ll trade both Kemp and Ethier at the deadline.
August and September could be seriously shitty months for Dodger fans.
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or good months
if we get anything good. Stop laughing.
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I see the Dodgers paying almost anything to keep Kemp. How often do you get a player with that many tools? He is a once-in-a-decade type of player. You need to make him and Kershaw the face of the Dodgers for the next 10 years.
Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.
We’ve lost every other once in a decade player I’ve seen in my life what’s one more?
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new ownership!
Time for McCourt to be the good guy for once!
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I almost want him to remain the owner for a few years
with a big tv deal to watch him try to buy fan love back
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McCourt hasn’t gone out of his way to keep the fans happy with his decision-making. The fan experience at Dodger Stadium in the last five years went from one of the best in MLB to one of the worst. Dodgers didn’t draw for crap with Kemp having an MVP season, so saving the 10+M on his salary without the corresponding fan loss would appear to be a reasonably possible decision on his part.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I disagree
Not everyone knows our top prospects, so McCourt wouldn’t have had to worry about trading them for MLB pieces like Sherrill, Lilly, etc…
A lot of the moves he has made like that actually would be wins to people who don’t follow the minors at all.
And you think these moves were motivated by fan happiness? Only insofar as they relate to team wins.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
No I don't think that
But for people who don’t know anything about minor leaguers, a lot of people were really happy to get Casey Blake. Same with George Sherrill went he went insane, and Ted Lilly.
How is this related to either trading away a star or the ensuing PR debacle?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Idk, your very first sentence?
McCourt hasn’t gone out of his way to keep the fans happy with his decision-making.
Acquiring Casey Blake or George Sherrill or Ted Lilly had nothing to do with the fans. He has put a fair effort towards putting a winning product on the field. And, yes, winning teams draw more fans.
I was reacting to Humma’s statement that Frank wouldn’t allow for a Kemp trade because fans wouldn’t show up. Fans already aren’t showing up because the team wasn’t winning (among other reasons). He didn’t correspondingly try to win fans back. He slashed fan services, tried to leave a dump in Bud Selig’s pool and bought more marble columns, but never apologized to fans or attempted to win them back over with gestures on or off of the field.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Actually he apologized all over himself earlier this summer to the point he was embarrassing. Saying he gets it now, and how sorry he was for letting the fans down. Don’t you remember all that?
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You don't think getting a fan favorite in Casey Blake
or an above average pitcher in Ted Lilly was for the fans in any way? It was to win more games, to get above average players while doing it, which results in fans being happier. You just contradicted yourself if you say winning draws more fans then say that acquiring blake and Lilly did not help to that end.
I wasn’t getting into your whole discussion, just the part about Mccourt (in your mind) not doing anything to make decisions to make fans happy.
Going back to the last thread
Lilly would actually be pretty well-suited for Safeco.
That being said, we need him too.
We need a pitcher we don’t have to pay him 13 million
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I was just about to look it up, what free agent pitchers (or realistic trade options) are out there?
by Michael White on Oct 7, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Wandy Rodriguez, bring back Kuroda, Javier Vazquez. That’s about it.
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If GM’s quit that easily they wouldn’t be able to build their teams every winter.
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Sure there’s other options out there, but they involve things like giving Edwin Jackson a disaster of a contract.
Bad teams have done an amazing job of getting all the talent off their team so there’s not too much out there unless you really want to trade for Paul Maholm, Luke Hochevar or Jeremy Guthrie.
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I still have my pre-written “Dodgers trade for Paul Maholm” column around here somewhere.
by Michael White on Oct 7, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
We disagree. Yes none of the names are probably available, but I do think some teams have pitchers who have value that they have not recognized. It is not by dumb luck the Felipe Paulino developed into a serviceable starting pitcher this season.
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Sure, but when has Colletti shown that kind of initiative?
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Sure
but at this point I said I would trade our contracts for Figgins then do my best to replace Lilly’s innings while still saving plenty of money for other things.
You are right, Ned would never do this thing.
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If you continually judge him by ERA+ then, sure, it will be a disaster
3.6, 3.8, 3.8 are his last 3 years of fWAR. He’s likely to be overpaid, but nearly all free agents are, and to get someone good you will need to pay for him.
Based on what?
He’s thrown around 200-215 innings each of the last 3 years, which is only a 20 or so increase from the year before and then the year before that another 20 inning increase.
He’s thrown around 200-215 innings each of the last 3 years
Maybe that?
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A ton of pitchers have pitched that many innings without any problems
I don’t know why he’s any different.
Ton?
I’d say less then 15 have pitched 600 innings in the last three years
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Bref keeps failing me, I only count 26 but still way more then 15
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I'm not sure how you did it
I just did last 3 calendar years on fangraphs. I agree 200 innings is a lot, and if jumped that high it can be quite the load, but Jackson seems to have been pushed there on a regular schedule rather than all at once.
Koufax averaged 222 innings over his career. Almost 300 per year his last four years..
200 innings……….Child’s Play!
Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.
But what a career! First ballot Hall of Famer. Got to retire early and spend his days doing what he likes.
Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.
He's at 625
with 25 people within 50 innings of him, and 15 or so within 25 innings of him. Ultimately 25 innings spread over 3 years is nothing.
Honestly I was a little shocked in how many people were so close to 600 innings or more
I would have though closer to 20-25, rather than around 40 within 25 innings of 6000.
things like throwing a 165 pitch no hitter
things like being left in for 120+ pitches because the Dbacks had the worst bullpen of all time
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Which won’t even show up in high inning totals. The innings are high-ish, but the pitch count is crazy.
by Michael White on Oct 7, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
He was only there for 1 year or so
I don’t think Detroit, St Louis (especially not them), or Tampa Bay were forced to throw him that far into games.
pitcher abuse points
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/sortable/index.php?cid=975552
in 09 and 10 he was second and maybe his arm can handle it. Maybe not.
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not that high
oddly enough. He just seems to have a lot of games where he throws a ton of pitches that day.
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in 2010 he was top 5
but not even top 20 the other 2 years
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Even worse. Honestly Oliver Perez is one of the more appealing options on there.
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It wouldn't, and we'd basically then need 3 starters next year.
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If I were Seattle
I’d do the deal. You get three players who were decent/good relatively recently for a player who has been terrible since coming to Seattle (was awesome his last year in Anaheim though.) It’s a challenge trade where you’re buying in bulk.
I don’t think I like it for LAD since you’re creating more holes and the players leaving were all better last year than the one you’re getting back.
by Michael White on Oct 7, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
And Seattle would be able to pump up Lilly and make him look great in that park and defense behind him, then swap him at the deadline like they did with Washburn and Fister.
by Michael White on Oct 7, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Not sure what you’re saying here, Fister was brilliant for Detroit. Seattle didn’t artificially inflate anything for him.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
In Detroit Fister starting striking out batter like he’d never done before in his career. At the time, the trade was almost identical to the Washburn trade. That it worked out for Detroit is kind of besides the point. They bought what Seattle was selling (again) and Fister somehow changed the type of pitcher he is.
by Michael White on Oct 7, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Fister’s xFIP in Seattle 2011: 4.03
Lilly’s xFIP 2011: 4.03
There was nothing in Fister’s history at the time of the deadline that suggested he would go to Detroit and throw up a 2.75 xFIP (that’s Kershaw-like) in 70 innings.
by Michael White on Oct 7, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
True, but it is not like Seattle puffed him up, they didn’t really get squat for him, and I don’t recall them getting squat for Washburn.
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Lots of Seattle fans were confused by that trade. Why would they trade years of a cost-controlled pitcher? In retrospect, they were right.
Casper Wells.
That dude’s nickname HAS to be The Invisible Man, right? I mean, there’s the whole friendly ghost thing, plus HG Wells. Who do we have to shtup to make sure that happens?
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by Nolij on Oct 7, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I can’t remember who Detroit sent, but it was another cost-controlled pitcher who had already been called up and started that year for Detroit. I don’t think it was nothing.
by Michael White on Oct 7, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Luke French is who they got for Washburn.
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After two terrible years, he’s out of major league baseball.
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Well, after a terrible two months, Washburn has been out of baseball too.
by Michael White on Oct 7, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Just saying the Mariners didn’t get anything functional for him. They basically traded for Eric Stultz
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Right. If anything Detroit screwed up by thinking Washburn would be a serviceable pitcher, even if he was priced right, the oppurtunity cost of not getting somebody actually good may have cost them the post-season (they lost the 1 game playoff that year.)
by Michael White on Oct 7, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Honestly, I thought they had made the same mistake this year, but as you noted Fister proved everyone wrong.
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You just can’t pass up a Fister/Furbush deal.
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Doug Fister and reliever David Pauley to the Tigers for pitcher Charlie Furbush, outfielder Casper Wells, third baseman Francisco Martinez and a player to be named. ptbnl was Chance Ruffin.
Right
Ruffin too. Ruffin had nice minor league numbers and is young.
Obviously in hindsight, no big deal for Detroit since Fister has been dominant. I didn’t see it coming though.
by Michael White on Oct 7, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Eric or anyone with access to play index on BRef
I’m getting a strange result in the pitching index
Using the Age from and to
GS > 10
Dodgers Only
Sandy Koufax is not showing up when he should
For example his age 29 season was 1965 and he should be on the list but he does not show up
He does show up for his age 30 season in 1966
He does show up for his age 27 season in 1963
No other season does he show up for.
So I went and used a range of age 25 – 30 to see if he would show up. Nope, just the age 27 and 30.
So I checked for Drysdale and his age 1965 also does not show up.
I am hoping you could spend a second to replicate this.
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Confession
I’ve become a big fan of Robinson Cano. I think his swing is one of the best in baseball. I watched that homer last night over and over trying to think who his swing reminded me of. I finally got it. Barry Bonds. Same super quick, swivel the hips, let the bat drop into the zone. While Utley might have the shortest swing in the game, Cano might have the best. Thank you letting me get that off my chest. I feel marginally better now.
And his minor league numbers never would have foretold such a creature.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=cano—001rob
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you're right
Started to put some of it together (minus the power and patience) in 2005 when he was called up after batting .333 as a 22 yo in AAA. What I had forgotten was that he took over 2b from . . . Tony Womack.
When in doubt on baseball trivia, I’m just going with Tony Womack.
Isn’t the story that Cano started walking after Cashman told him he could make way more money if he did?
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Walking is nice but where did the power come from?
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Wow how was that not strike 3 to upton??
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Homer : Maybe.
TV : Are you sitting on your couch in front of the tv …
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forget the episode
but i like Homer’s toast to alcohol, “the cause of and solution to all our problems.”
since we all watch TV on huge screens now
I wish there was an option for 4 cameras at the same time for the broadcast.
If the winner is decided based upon facial hair, who wins the series?
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Nope
Rangers won 1 more game in regular season
by Michael White on Oct 7, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
angels had a chance to do some damage
instead they let Napoli hit two dingers.
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Nice that Texas’ game 3 pitcher is a male first name.
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Game times announced for ALCS on FOX
Sat, Sun, Tue, Wed, Thu, Sat, Sun
5:05, 4:45, 5:05, 1:19, 1:19, 5:05, 5:05 pm pacific.
by Alex41592 on Oct 7, 2011 2:49 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Would be great if Raburn gets to play because Young is hurt and goes nutso on the Tiger lefties.
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i went to the yankees game last night
there is nothing, nothing more beautiful in the world than hearing 50K drunk yankee fans sigh frustratingly when A-Rod chokes.
it was so incredible. like an unknown Beethoven opus
by stevesaxaphone on Oct 7, 2011 2:53 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
On some sort of Lakers podcast on ESPN, Bryan Cranston spoke a little about the Dodgers:
- (4:18) Cranston shares how he fell in love with the Dodgers as a five year old watching Wally Moon hit moon shots out of the Colosseum. These days, however, the Blue spark messier, uglier visions as the McCourt saga drags on with no end in sight. However, as Cranston notes, there’s reason for optimism in the forms of Clayton Kershaw and Matt Kemp, his respective picks for the NL Cy Young and MVP. This led to a brief debate over the merits of Tigers pitcher Justin Verlander for AL MVP, plus Cranston’s suggestions to create “The Kamenetzky Award” for the best performance on a bad team, as well as Razzie Awards in baseball.
Blue spark
Ha, that was what I used to call my Minor League column here.
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I miss that
I always heard the X song in my head when I saw that.
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When did the Dodgers play their games in Rome?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I hear Ceasar’s favorite player was the leaning tower of Mike Piazza
by Josie Becker on Oct 7, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Seems odd given they don’t need to pinch hit for him and he’s only given up one run. I doubt Grienke could do any better, the boys simply need to score some runs.
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Each time through the lineup pitchers tend to do worse. Maybe after the 2nd time through the lineup they will bring in Greinke or make sure he is ready at the first sign of trouble?
For Gallardo
from 3rd – 7th inning his OPS against drops every inning.
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Good pitchers don’t follow the same crooked path of the other 90%
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Just using common sense. Could be wrong here but I’d think that the elite pitchers get stronger until about the 22 out mark then the rest of the drabble.
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Since there are way more lousy pitchers then good one’s the overall trend might be an increase in OPS as the hitters see them for the 2nd/3rd time, but I’d be surprised if that is true for the elite one’s. There is a reason they are elite.
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Less ATMs
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
this is a big one
It helped when I found out I could use atms at 7-11s for free with my OCTFCU card
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What is their policy on using big banks’ ATMs?
If it’s free — i.e., they reimburse you for all charges, including that of the banks — that is a great thing.
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Usually you get nicked by the big bank. I use big bank ATMs in desperate circumstances only.
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My main banking has been my credit union for like 25 years
No drawbacks. ATM scarcity was a problem in the past, but no longer. Lots of credit unions out there and they are almost all free to members of other CUs and as nolander points out, free at all 7-11s now too.
The other drawback used to be limited branch locations (but convenient as typically it was near your workplace), but how often do you need to physically go to a branch these days?
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Sure glad Randy Wolf threw that stinker of a game for the Brewers and not the Dodgers. I’d hate to have a team do everything right then have their FA go Dave Goltz on them.
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Two on for the future Dodger first baseman.
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Oh ESPN and your Stats Department
So today I’m going to delcare that “The Arizona Diamondbacks will the the 1st team in MLB history to win a 1 run, winner take all afternoon game, on the road, with a 1st year manager, who was a former player, after being down 0-2 in the series.” Put money on it.
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I was sort of kidding but for plunking Weeks in the back, hitting him for 2nd time in the series.
Still thinking of the Kershaw ejection recently…
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If Ian Kennedy was any good
he’d be able to get Hairston and Y
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“Jerry Hairston out on a sacrifice fly to second baseman Aaron Hill.”
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double play you mean?
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You can book outs for the next inning in the playoffs.
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Cool. Good to know. ;-)
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Wow
Berman going nuts
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Berman is still awful. they have had some good teams but he was working the other day and it was awful.
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It truly is horrible. I am barely able to make out words that resemble English that give me a vague idea about what is happening in the game.
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If someone hits a home run or a near home run,
you get to drink for every “back” that Berman says.
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I can't BE that high.
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by underdog on Oct 7, 2011 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Berman has to be among the worst baseball announcers. In one of the games in Arizona where they had a 5-0 first inning lead. The Brewers batter in the 2nd inning lead off with a double and he just about had a heart attack then proclaimed “and here come your Milwaukee Brewers!” Come on, dude. They are down by 5 runs, take it easy.
Great hustle by Morgan there
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He doesn't address Bowden's big Dodgers-Reds trade proposal? :)
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Typical Ned frankness (not Frankness)
3. Andre Ethier will be a free agent after next year too. If you’re not able to extend his contract, is he a trade candidate?
We will entertain signing him as well, but he’s coming off an injury and a subpar season.
If you don’t sign him would you consider trading him either this offseason or at next year’s trade deadline?
I am not inclined to trade any player that is a key player to our major league club right now, and he fits that category.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
We are going to milk him for everything he is worth, and then let him walk away.
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Sigh
And finally, although we’re pleased with our deep young bullpen, we’d still be open to signing another veteran reliever, but that would be a low priority based on our other team needs.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
He acknowledges existence of IDJ!
We need to figure out second base. Carroll and Miles are free agents. Right now we have the two young players in Sellers and Ivan DeJesus that we might let compete for that job next year.
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he goes further when discussing the infield
Sellers and DeJesus will platoon or compete at second base. Dee Gordon will be at short with Juan Uribe at third base.
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Also means “big bat” doesn’t refer to Aramis, at least in Ned’s mind.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Could make sense
Sign Aramis
No matter what he says I do not believe that he will go into spring with Dejesus/Sellers as his 2nd options.
Loney
Uribe
Gordon
Aramis
FedEx/Ellis
Andre
Kemp
Sands
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I see that as much more feasible (and, as I’ve stated, desirable) than Fielder. But Ned is clearly going after (one of) the two Princes first.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I dunno that I agree that he is more desirable than Fielder. I like Aramis, but he will be 34. How many years will he get? Prince Fielder will be 28. If Prince gets a six-year deal, then in the final year of that deal, he will be as old as Aramis is now.
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We could get an even older 3rd baseman if that is what you want. Would 37 and a 825 OPS float your boat? You said it would.
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Fielder will be better than Aramis next year, and most likely for at least the next three years, but he will be much more expensive and be much more expensive for a much longer period of time. He’s not the ox I want to have my cart tied to.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Aramis's defense is so bad though
and with ihm getting older could suddenly become completely untenable.
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Yep, you might need to think of him as a first baseman.
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I hadn’t considered his defense. I remember it used to be pretty good, but I imagine the years have paid their toll on him.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Even if he was above average at 27, it would stand to reason that he wouldn’t be any more at 34.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
You’d think but UZR told me that Casey Blake got better the older he got.
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Blake did bounce around position wise
maybe not playing in the OF and being only at 3rd let him polish his skills
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I thought I read somewhere
that it was influenced by positioning. Eric Wedge apparently had a fetish for playing his 3B a step or two closer to the line, so Blake’s UZR suffered when he didn’t get to balls to his left that other 3Bs, more conventionally positioned, got to. I can at least qualitatively believe that position could be a noticeable factor at the hot corner.
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interesting. Cue Xeifrank or Phil making a snarky comment about UZR.
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Well
without context like this who wouldn’t?
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If Sands performs
And if FedEx doesn’t shit the bed too terribly
And if Uribe bounces back
And if Loney is finally for real
And if Andre can put up an Andre season (850-900 OPS)
And if Gordon puts up a 650 OPS (he will)
And if Kemp doesn’t regress too much (he’ll be fine)
…then they’ll go far. 90 wins.
As those ifs start to fall, you can tick off wins.
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Agreed
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he actually said the name "DeJesus"
I dont buy that at all.
You dont leave a guy in the minors in Sept…and have Velez taking ABs…if that guy has ANY chance of helping your team in the future.
Matt Kemp is a priority, and I plan on getting with his agent, Dave Stewart, and will work diligently in trying to work out a long-term deal with Matt. There is some urgency because he’ll be a free agent at the end of the 2012 season if they don’t sign him long term now. Clayton Kershaw’s situation is not as urgent because he’s only first-time arbitration eligible and won’t be a free agent until after the 2014 season. That doesn’t mean we won’t have conversations and listen, and if we can make a deal that makes sense, we will be open to it — but not with the same urgency as Kemp.
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Holy crap! Whaddaya mean we haven’t signed Matt Kemp! I specifically told Ki— never mind. Jim, can you hang on a second? (picks up phone) Elaine, I need Kim, can you get her for me please?….. What do you mean, Kim who, Kim Ng, how many Kims work here?…. WHAT DO YOU MEAN QUIT?
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There is some good stuff here
Behind the plate, we’ll probably let Tim Federowicz and A.J. Ellis handle the duties. They are both good catch-and-throw receivers. If Federowicz can hit .240 with some power, he can be an everyday catcher. He calls a really good game and has a strong arm.
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Yeah I found that weirdly reassuring, for Ned. While I wouldn't mind RoBar coming back
he probably won’t be worth paying what he’ll presumably fetch and I’d rather they focus $ elsewhere, with two guys who are at least good defensively there.
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The willingness to go that route is kinda nice, meaning that they’re willing to spend money somewhere else. I still think that they’ll be spurned by the big bats and then spend too much at a spot like catcher to overcompensate.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
if we could do the right deal with a player in terms of duration and money, we would be willing to do it. We have flexibility if we keep catcher, second base, shortstop and left field as non-arbitration eligible players like we have now, then it is definitely possible that we could afford to spend the money on a significant middle-of-the-order bat.
So
Prince
DeJesus/Sellers
Gordon
Uribe
Fedex/Ellis
Sands
Kemp
Loney
is how I see it:)
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Prince and Loney?
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Loney in left!
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Hrm...kay.
I don’t see it, but would happily have them both on my team. :0)
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What did you get for Ethier?
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The veteran relief pitcher he covets:)
Along with the salary relief to sign Prince
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Is this really true?
Rubby De La Rosa should be back in June or July of next year from the Tommy John surgery, and as you know, Jim, he has the potential to develop into a No. 2 starter down the road.
because he had it this summer? I guess I could see him making a Strasburg-like comeback in September, but summer seems overly optimistic?
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Seems optimistic, I’d hope for August and even then he’d be baby gloved.
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just in time for the stretch run
maybe have him pitch out of the bullpen for those tasty 3 out saves
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Ned was tired by this point
Chris Lee, our first round pick from Stanford, of course, is also special, and we’re going to try to develop him as a starter, knowing we can always move him back to the bullpen if we have to.
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Or, more likely, the ESPN staffer that transcribed the phone call.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Chris Zach Lee would be an amazing pitcher though.
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Not a good inning for Morgan
Pops up on 3-1 count with runners on, then misjudges lined ball to centerfield
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I put bud lite in my crock pot chili
because I didn’t have enough canned tomatoes. I’m curious to see how this turns out.
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My elementary school did that. If you count Corona as beer, which I don’t.
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Its the juice really
the canned tomato stuff is where the chili gets most of the juice. I threw some corn in it for good measure.
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Why the hell would you have Bud Light on hand?
(Of course, my wife drinks Miller Lite, so….)
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Stand up double for Braun
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Is the sun down in Milwaukee? This thing starts tonight, if he’s observant.
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His version of Al Cheit
For the sin which we have committed, by doubling when we should have homered…
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Second-best in the business.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Best right hander
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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 7, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
One final Ned Note
Guerrier gives us a veteran presence and Kuo should be able to come back next year and even MacDougal did a good job for us.
Eric is going to have to update the payroll worksheet again:)
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Seriously, I don't know how he can confidently say Kuo will be back next year
but I know you also have to take some comments with grain of salt given how early in the process it is right now. There are some things he can’t be too honest or direct about yet til they are further along in negotiating, deciding, researching…
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I was just about to come in to say what a frickin' amazing catch from Chris Young, but then Brewers took lead right after it anyway.
But still, wow, I did not think he was gonna catch up to that one.
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Post Season Parra = Regular Season Velez
by albany10 on Oct 7, 2011 4:26 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Bring it Sammy!
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can we bring back Saito please?
one of my favorite players
I like calling him F-Rod more. It's more literal, and also fits what I often say when he pitches.
Gets a big K there though.
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curses, F-Rod!
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i forgot FRod was on the Brewers, almost reason enough to root against them
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You don't like seeing him dance after strikeouts?
by Michael White on Oct 7, 2011 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Doesn’t bother me,
Something else, not sure what it is, but I don’t like him
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Without the details who knows, maybe his FIL deserved to be smacked around.
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The worst part about watching Angel games back in the day was KROD..
you could tell in the first 3 pitches if he was gonna blow a save
it was horrible
watching him be a dominant closer, you are right.
He did learn from Percival about making the 9th more exciting then it needs to be.
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It will be harder against Axford
and the bottom of the Diamondback lineup
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if the dbax lose
GScott, Maddz, and Me will be knocked out of the contest.
We wont be able to get past MatthewMafia
If the Phillies lose that will knock out a boatload
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seriously
burroughs will K for sure against axford
Axford looks like an old school Brewers pitcher, doesn't he?
Hope the results aren’t old school Brewers, though.
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Jeez
Nice time for a slide. Bad luck for Brewers though on that bloop hit.
Damn, I’m kinda glad these arent my teams, I’d be freaking out.
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C'mon Broxford! ;)
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That DBag scored on a squeeze. Sheez.
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you have to admire a team that does that
milwaukee area is one of the smallest markets in the league and they went for broke.
i once saw a meaningless august game there, brewcrew vs padres, and the place was filled to capacity with passionate fans. they deserve a good run.
by truemontenegro on Oct 7, 2011 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll feel less bad if he jumps ship for LA :)
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Matt keeps re-tweeting people who agreed with him. He didn’t re-tweet my response.
by Michael White on Oct 7, 2011 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
There's your sports illustrated freeze frame photo of the day
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Get out of the inning and killing Betancourt. There’s a win win
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not so much redemption
maybe retribution for young robbing him
by truemontenegro on Oct 7, 2011 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Luckily the Brewers did a switch out and Craig Counsel will be batting 3rd this inning.
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D-Backs bullpen outside of Putz isn’t worth much.
This game is probably gonna end with Putz on the bench anyway.
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but are you really feeling all that confident in kameron loe?
by truemontenegro on Oct 7, 2011 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions
i hope for the latter
just for the postgame interview
by truemontenegro on Oct 7, 2011 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Game over – just stepped back into the office?
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Kellogg was looking right at him
and gave the all clear
by truemontenegro on Oct 7, 2011 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions
seriously
but the ump called him safe right away
no doubt about that man
nobody wants to face halladay lee hamels…
Want to face
Lee / Hamels / Oswalt / Halladay once a game
or
Pujols / Berkman / Holliday
every game
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Nice!!
lets get these phils Outta the playoffs and the playoffs will be a much better place
Congrats to the Brewers! Genuinely happy for them and their fans. Rawwwwwr!
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I love seeing Saito and Wolf advance.
"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Oct 7, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions
At least Gibson lost with Putz on the mound
and not in the pen waiting for a save situation.
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should have kept hernandez in the game!!
he used to be a starter….and only threw like 18 pitches
Instead of hitting for Hernandez?
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Uecker
Was so great on the final call. Congrats Brewers.
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Unless he says
The Brewers win it, the Brewers win it, OMG the Brewers win it, it is second best. :)
Schmacher’s only had 1 regular season game in CF this year.
And LaRussa puts him out there for this one.
That is strange.
He just had to get Nick Punto in the lineup.
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Hey
How in the hell did you not end up at the Corbin Bowl with use? That’s about as close to Simi as we’re likely to get. Even if your back/knees/elbow/whatever can’t take the torque of handling a 16-lber, I would have bought you a beer or two. You deserve at least that for fathering the TBLA puppie.
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We need to trade for that guy!
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im in a win win situation
if the phillies win, i go 4-0….
if the phillies lose… i go 3-1 but i will be the happiest person cause i hate the phillies
This just in
Fuck Halliday
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
His pitching windup/delivery looks like
like he went through the Dr. Mike Marshall school of pitching
this is a huge inning
get past this inning and i think the cards may win
This is getting pretty intense.
Maybe the most I’ve cared about a non dodger game in years. 7 more outs!
by Ivdown on Oct 7, 2011 7:30 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Does chris go 8? Or is he scheduled to hit this inning
by Ivdown on Oct 7, 2011 7:33 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Hitting for himself. Cool to see. Carp is pitching awesome
by Ivdown on Oct 7, 2011 7:36 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Lol
Carp single. Mulder was saying it didn’t matter who won the game in regards to their friendship, but if one gets a hit off the other it will. Lol
Error! 2 on
by Ivdown on Oct 7, 2011 7:37 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Just checking in to say
Fuck you, Ruiz!
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I'm actually ok with this bunt
Because behind Pujols is holiday or berkman, not Juan Rivera. Lol
by Ivdown on Oct 7, 2011 7:39 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
a little too much bunting for me
Already have a man in scoring position and then take the bat out of your best hitter. Berkman didn’t look to cerebral up there, Halladay through perhaps all balls to him.
5 outs to go
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4 outs to go
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Arthur Rhodes in to face utley?!?!
or is carpenter going CP!?!?!?
Come on, make this happen!
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Nobody warming in the pen for St. Loo.
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Heard on radio today that A-Rod was 6th player ever to make final out in postseason for his team two years in a row.
Ryan Howard, who was the last out of the NLCS last year, is due up third in the 9th.
Hell yeah
What a playoff round. This has been a fantastic post season thus far, and it keeps rolling
Whew!
2 outs to go!
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What kind of a play did furcal make a bit ago?
by Ivdown on Oct 7, 2011 8:05 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Asked and answered
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What kind of a play did furcal make
by Ivdown on Oct 7, 2011 7:56 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Dove to his right, got up and fired a strike to Pujols
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by Greg Stephen on Oct 7, 2011 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions
147 mph grounder. Furcal ranged to the wall in center field, then threw a strike from his knees to Pujols at first base for the out.
Roughly.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 7, 2011 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions
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Don’t mind this slightly different repost. Lol. Damn mobile site
by Ivdown on Oct 7, 2011 8:07 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
1 to go
And it’s Ryan Howard
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Second greatest Carpenter in history?
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by Humma Kavula on Oct 7, 2011 8:07 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
hes ok
hes pulling a paul pierce….
Fuckkkk the Phillies!!
Indeed!
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scissors can hurt
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 7, 2011 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions
What a fucking game!
What a fucking division series round!
by Eric Stephen on Oct 7, 2011 8:09 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
agreed
great playoff!!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 7, 2011 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Hats off to Carpenter is all I can say. What a performance. CG shutout in that park. Wow.
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word
he was incredible
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 7, 2011 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions
yea wow
i would have never thought after his game two performance…
fully rested this time
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by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 7, 2011 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t understand why so many people like seeing an exceptional team lose. Hooray baseball on this one
its philly
fuck philly, fuck the eagles, fuck the 76ers, fuck the phillies
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by nolander on Oct 7, 2011 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Fuck the phillies
that’s why
They call me the thread killer
by Greg Stephen on Oct 7, 2011 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
hubris
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 7, 2011 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions
You should hang out with Phil and talk to him about this while he talks about how he likes parra and victorino :)
by Ivdown on Oct 7, 2011 8:12 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I just don’t get it. The Phillies, Cards, Brewers and Rays all bult up teams over time and I think they all fantastic baseball clubs.
Fuck the Yankees, the Phils are just a good team.
The Phillies had been to the NLCS 3 straight years before tonight.
At some point you do get tired of seeing them.
And — I can’t believe I have to point this out — they beat up on our team in two of those three years.
Fuck the Phillies.
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I can understand wanting to see someone else, but the Phillies losing just now doesn’t repair the hole in my heart from missing those world series. It doesn’t come close. And this mock jubile would look petty to an outsider
Victorino says, Why you gotta be like that man?
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can’t exactly argue the Yankees got where they are by drafting well, building a team slowly, and being a model for a well run franchise.
The Yankees and Phils look identical..
shitty teams = high draft picks
high draft picks = good players
6 years of service time = big contracts
They both are gonna crash into the ground soon, Fuck em both
Whaaaat? The last time the Yankees had a pick higher than 20 that was their own pick was 1993 when they drafted 13th overall.
1993 13 Matt Drews (minors) 1992 6 Derek Jeter (minors) 1991 1 Brien Taylor (minors) 1990 10 Carl Everett (minors)
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Thats not my point tho
the Yankees sucked horribly and eventually collected good talent and signed them to dumb ass contracts.
The phils have done the same exact thing. Thats where I was going with that
They sucked from '89-'92
What they reaped out of that was Jeter. Drews was thrown in some trade, Taylor, yup, Everett was lost in the expansion draft. What I was arguing was this part of your comment:
shitty teams = high draft picks
high draft picks = good players
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If they dont resign Pujols they’ll some of his cash to sign Jose Reyes.
I think they already got Berkman resigned to play 1st
still could be a 5 win dropoff.
They do get wainright back next year.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
It’d be badass for the Cardinals to activate Wainright for the NLCS or WS.
He was their closer for the 2006 team
1) If there is any man who’d do it, it is Tony La Russa.
2) He won’t do it
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I dunno, but the fact that he hasn’t thrown a single pitch in live game action this year would make me hesitant to put him in a game in which the pennant is on the line.
That said, if I had a guy I didn’t trust at all, who existed only to mop up a game I was already losing by ten runs… then why include him and not Wainwright?
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Because he’s on the 40-man, even though he’s been on the 60-day DL all year?
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Everyone who is on the active roster and DL on August 31 are eligible for postseason rosters without any shenanigans.
Otherwise, anyone just has to be in the organization by August 31, but they would have to replace an injured player of the same “position” (pitcher for pitcher, position player for position player).
Mostly because I have not liked them since they won those two torturous/painful NLCS series vs Dodgers.
Is it totally rational? No. But I have never had much warmth for Philly phans, and don’t much enjoy a few of their players…
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4-0 in my series picks!
I couldn’t be happier about the results of this post season unless the dodgers had made it :)
by Ivdown on Oct 7, 2011 8:11 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Old friends are kicking ass this post season :)
by Ivdown on Oct 7, 2011 8:18 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
furcal!! interview!
he says thank you for dodgers to trading him to cardinals cause he like to win not lose!!
Did he really say that?
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they were chanting that in the locker room
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 7, 2011 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions
NLCS Times Announced on TBS
Sun, Mon, Wed, Thu, Fri, Sun, Mon
1:05, 5:05, 5:05, 5:05, 5:05, 1:05, 5:05 pm pacific.
And when Carpenter is up for a HOF vote, people will remember his performance, a la Jack Morris.
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He has less career starts than some HOFers have wins.
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BASEBALL, FUCK YEAH!
Great last day of the season. Great first round of the playoffs.
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Speaking of which. Was the 10:1 prop bet cards and brewers win or lose?
by Ivdown on Oct 7, 2011 8:20 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I hate to sound old school….but having champagne celebrations for winning divisional series seems lame to me.
In Texas they snort mountains of coke.
Or maybe not.
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Try are one of four teams to make it this far. I’m cool with it
by Ivdown on Oct 7, 2011 9:01 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I enjoyed it too, but TBS ruined the TV broadcast of the celebration by interviewing Carp and Furcal. The players had to wait a long time to uncork the champagne because of the two long interviews. The Carpenter interview went on and on and on about god knows what. I kept saying to myself, shut up and let him go to his clubhouse and party.
So it's Bud vs. Miller next series
They should hold it at Coors Field.
Get ready for the onslaught of idiot guys ignoring their model girlfriends for bad beer
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
for Zorro?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 7, 2011 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions
In
Vin’s interview with Petros and Money, he said it would not surprise him if Philly lost because their offense was just average.
was that today?
Vin knows all.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 7, 2011 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions
still missed it :(
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 7, 2011 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I love seeing the Phillies out
but it just makes me bemoan 2008 and 2009 all the more. I hate seeing other teams beating the Phillies when the Dodgers couldn’t.
Nothing is ever easy.
I’ve made my peace with half of the Dodgers losses. The half that was mad because in 2009 the Dodgers were better and they got beat. Well, shit happens, and shit happened to our team. It’s too bad, and I wish it hadn’t, but it did, and life goes on.
Then there’s the other half of it. The half that goes like this: Fuck you, Philadelphia.
I’m gonna hold on to that half of it for a little while.
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I don't root against philledelphia because their team beat our team
I root agaisnt them because their fans are notorious douchebags
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
finks
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 7, 2011 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions
There is nothing harder
Than to be the team that is supposed to win. And very few teams are really ever that team. The Heat was prematurely labeled that team last season.
The Phillies had that label once Cliff Lee signed. They did all they could but they faced probably one of a small handful of pitchers who could win in Philly tonight.
There will be no easy answers for them, what to do about Rollins and Oswalt are two things that will be known soon enough.
I wonder – to what extent did their business model depend upon reaching (and/or winning) the world series?
They have a huge payroll. How much money will they receive from the playoff pool (approximately)? How much more would they have received if they reached (and, let’s say, lost) the World Series? That has got to be a healthy chunk of change. I have no idea what their books look like, but is it possible that getting bounced in the first round — from simply a business standpoint — is really bad news for them?
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I
Think their problem is adding to their offense, Hamels needs an extension and what to do with Rollins. Business wise they should be okay but their window won’t be open forever.
Sager said it was an achilles injury, left ankle
won’t know more until an MRI
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 7, 2011 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Holy shit, I thought this was a joke — Howard out for the year, Phillies eliminated, ha ha.
He is out for next year? Holy shit.
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He is having an MRI tomorrow, but no word yet. Is there a foot injury that could happen now that would knock someone out for 11-12 months? I doubt it.
I wanted to have a quote there that sounded like something Walton would say, but I just wasn’t up to the task.
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I enjoyed the picture
that TBS showed of the 1999 Jays team that had Carpenter, Halladay and Wells in the back row. Wells looked kind of goofy though.
since we were all kind wondering about Ned's comments on IDJ
I thought this was interesting. Chris Jackson, ABQ beat writer, on why we didn’t see IDJ
Attitude, pure and simple. Nobody was happy with De Jesus’ approach to the game, his lackadaisical play, or his general coldness in the clubhouse here in ABQ. Visiting scouts told me (repeatedly): "He doesn’t respect the game. You just don’t see that from sons of former big leaguers." Of course, leaving him off the September call-up list last season did little to make him a happier guy, so I can only imagine the emotional state of IDJ right now. So I take everything Colletti said in that interview as total B.S. You know he’s going to find someone, even if it’s the corpse of Orlando Cabrera (he’s an ex-Giant now), to play second base.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
OH YES
TEAM CABRERA GETS ITS FIRST MEMBER
Every journey begins with a single step.
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You misunderstand me, sir.
Team. Cabrera.
Think of Vin Scully, calling a double play, Cabrera to Cabrera to Cabrera.
Understand the awesomeness.
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i’m kinda scared too
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 7, 2011 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Interview with Jim Bowden
We need to figure out second base. Carroll and Miles are free agents. Right now we have the two young players in Sellers and Ivan DeJesus that we might let compete for that job next year.
might just not watn to think of the alternative
I do want to say, I love that Kershaw stood up during a team meeting and said he wanted Hiro to come back
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 7, 2011 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
“Coldness in the clubhouse”
Please tell me the Dodgers dont manage this way still…
I thought Moneyball fixed all this.
10yrs later and this garbage still permeates?
yup
you can only be an asshole if you’re a good player.
it’s science
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 7, 2011 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions
“Your shower shoes have fungus on them. You’ll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes. Think classy, you’ll be classy. If you win 20 in the show, you can let the fungus grow back and the press’ll think you’re colorful. Until you win 20 in the show, however, it means you are a slob. "
I don’t think Moneyball says anything about being a dick.
by dodgerpreacher on Oct 7, 2011 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions
There is a key point you’re missing: Kemp was good.
Nobody cares about DeJesus. Colletti knows the team has a gaping, bleeding, festering, yawning, pus-filled, and life-threatening hole at second base, and he still doesn’t care about DeJesus. There is a reason for that, and it is not because Ned is dumb.
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Yes lets ignore the other two more imporant parts
his lollygagging and his shitty approach(ie probably being a lazy fuck who isn’t putting the work in)
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
the Volkswagon commerical
with the spanish tape is hilarious
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
Watching
Legends of the Hidden Temple (mid 90s). They are interviewing one of the kids, and he apparently plays games over a modem through the phone line. It’s okay though, they’re all local charges, or his parents would kill him.
no soccer
on tonight? We have an 8:30AM game. Want to come help setup the goals in the morning? Should be at least 52 degrees.
he just better get all the tokens
or the temple guards are gonna nab his ass in the shrine of the silver monkey
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 7, 2011 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions
i always wanted to be on either that show or GUTS as a kid
man I would have sucked
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 7, 2011 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah Double Dare
I always wanted to go down the slide into the pool of ice cream
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 7, 2011 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions
he m-m-m-must have had it
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 7, 2011 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions
opportunity knocks
I was kind of pleasantly surprised to see the Tigers are favored to win Game #1 tomorrow. I know it is Verlander and he is supposedly invincible and all, but C.J. Wilson has put together a nice little season too. Might have to jump on this one.
OMG, I wasn’t watching. Was that the triple or the double?
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pretty sure
that ended up as a triple. That was in STL though
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 7, 2011 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Ouch
per Matt Gelb of the Philly Inquirer:
Ryan Howard believes he tore his left ACL on the final play of the game. MRI to confirm it tomorrow.
show me on the doll where he hurt you
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 7, 2011 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
giants don't make the playoffs
but Brian Wilson still does commercials
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
put it on youtube
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 7, 2011 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions
damn
now I don’t know what to think
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 7, 2011 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Brewers
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 7, 2011 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Leaning toward the Tigers in the ALCS (Rangers punishment for not beating the Giants last year) but I’d be OK with either of them winning.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 7, 2011 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Indeed
Like the Brewers/Cardinals matchup too. Should be fun.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 7, 2011 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
yup
i’m looking forward to the CS’s
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 7, 2011 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
MLB Network just showed footage of Shane Victorino ripping up his NLCS tickets and throwing them away in the clubhouse.
saw that
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 7, 2011 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of MLB Network, watched (via on demand) their #10 Greatest Game
the 1988 WS game 1, the Gibson game. Was cool to watch that because Dave Stewart is in most of it providing some pretty candid insight.
I like when they were talking about Dodger lineup and he said “I didn’t even remember Jeff Hamilton until now.” Like, who WAS that guy? They dissed Hamilton again later. (He sure didn’t have a good game.)
And I’d forgotten about Sax getting hit in 1st inning. Stewart said it wasn’t retaliation for the Canseco beaning in top of the 1st but for Sax talking smack to him before the game.
Gibson comes on to talk about that 9th inning. Which still gives me goosebumps. But other stuff in that game (including Mickey Hatcher’s 2 run home run!) is worth being reminded of.
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Gibson also talks candidly about how he'd changed the culture of the team a bit in ST
after Guerrero’s defense and Orosoco’s pranks he’d already had enough with these goofballs!
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I remember Hershiser saying
how Gibson brought (for a while) an absolute silence and football mentality to the clubhouse before the game
I found an article earlier this year that talked about Gibson, and Hershiser mentioned they used to mess around in the clubhouse and play-shove a guy, nothing real serious. I guess Hershiser did it to Gibson, either early in the year or in spring training, and Gibson lowered his shoulder and blasted Hershiser back into his locker.
Hershiser didn’t play that game anymore with Gibson. :)
by Eric Stephen on Oct 7, 2011 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn’t know Carpenter had so many tatoos
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Oct 7, 2011 10:36 PM PDT reply actions
If the
Brewers play the Rangers in the World Series, one of those teams will win their first World Series. Name the last time such a World Series was played?
Also
If the Brewers win the NLCS, they will be the only team to represent both the AL and NL in the World Series.
Off the top of my head I can’t think of the one before that. Maybe 1920 Dodgers/Indians?
by Eric Stephen on Oct 7, 2011 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
That
Is right too. Even going to the beginning of the World Series, it only has happened 5 other times and those were in the first 6 Series.
With Howard's torn achilles
does that put them as players for Prince or Pujols? If so, fucking sucks.
if it is torn
i dont think he’ll miss much of 2012.
Thats not that much of a serious injury for a baseball player.
It’s his left heel, the one that twists and where the area around the achilles is stretched as he follows through. Seems like something you want to make sure is well-heeled well-healed to me.
WebMD on achilles tendon rupture surgery:
After either type of surgery, you will likely wear a cast, walking boot, or similar device for 6 to 12 weeks. At first, the cast or boot is positioned to keep the foot pointed downward as the tendon heals. The cast or boot is then adjusted gradually to put the foot in a neutral position (not pointing up or down). Many health professionals recommend starting movement and weight-bearing exercises early, before the cast or boot comes off. Your total recovery time will probably be as long as 6 months.It won’t be surprising if he misses some spring training.
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Sad.
I never thought I’d see this day. I really thought he was either gonna live forever, or was already among the living dead. But seriously, he had a huge impact on the game. Was a huge figure in development of NFL and one of few to stand up to the “old guard”. Very legendary. Even though I’m a Bronco fan I will miss him being around the game.
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Tim
Kawakami blogged that there is no GM or Player Personnel Director now because those were Al’s duties.
Those 70s Raiders teams were a lot of fun to watch. I was a Rams fan but always enjoyed seeing the Silver and Black.
we can joke about his decision making the last few years
but you can’t forget the impact he had on the game and the success he had.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Dueling emotions right now.
RIP
…and now the Raiders can finally move on.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 8, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Delmon Young
not on the ALCS roster.
Big loss. Especially with the lefties the Rangers throw.
Who replaces Howard?
Oh wait, nevermind.
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by mleadman on Oct 8, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
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